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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #60 on: November 01, 2018, 07:41:21 PM »
Double on what @LKGA19 said; this is something you need to know. Fucking senseless. Be safe y'all.

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #61 on: November 01, 2018, 07:41:47 PM »
We all 'monger' different *shrug*

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #62 on: November 01, 2018, 07:42:02 PM »
I am not concerned of them finding the body if he is in custody.  I have seen it first hand you will get beaten badly by the police until you confess..  Remember you cannot say there I want a lawyer before questioning. 

Not to take away from anything, but torture isn't the best way to get information *Military exp* , using torture is assuming the person is afraid or will break because of pain or fear of impending pain.. Torture may get you to talk, but the information given may not be helpful and/or truthful.. Can DR hold him indefinitely without a trial or evidence? Just asking? As a US citizen wont the US step in at some point? If not, sounds as bad as N.Korea as far as the legal rights are concerned.

Not sure you follow the newspapers a lot in the DR when they parade the criminals out and they confesses before trial.  Why do you think he confesses because either take the beaten or confess.  It's a third world country.  Also, do you think the USA embassy cares about a monger.  Where is active duty when we need him. When you as a monger get caught up in bullshit they will pay you a visit and give you a list of lawyers all who will be corrupt.  Please do not listen on here and think a monger has pull in the DR. Now, the last part when everyone is plotting against you right next to you and you have no idea what there saying remember when you said you did not need to learn Spanish "no importante".

You might want to take a visit to La Victoria prison outside Santo Domingo.  You will be shocked how many Americans are locked up with corrupt counsel.  Most of you all just have no clue how things can go bad and your helpless.

Exactly, citizens who get into problems with the law can not expect any help from their Embassy

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #63 on: November 01, 2018, 07:45:18 PM »
The question will be when he is found guilty do they let him stay in pop which for anyone who is curious the prison sits on a hill next to a baseball field in pop in a barrio unless you know that area you should not be in at night or they do a whitey bulger and send him to la Victoria with the worse of the worse.  Trust me you do not want to be in there as once you walk through the last check point no guards visible inmate controlled.
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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2018, 07:47:44 PM »
What stories you hear of Victoria

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2018, 08:01:29 PM »
What stories you hear of Victoria

I said before  I use to have a chick from a Santo domingo barrio.  I talked to her brother who was a knuck who you could not tell anything.  He robbed someone connected and that was that.  Wednesday and Sundays are visiting days were people line up to bring food and supplies.  Once you hit last check point all you see is inmates in shorts in your face begging for money and prison controlled by big boys that you pay for a place to sleep, mattresses, etc... nothing free in there no money you sleep on the floor.  Imagine be in there with no Spanish.  They do have a foreigner side and listen carefully a lot of sad brothers with no hope in there.  You get locked in to your area at 9 and you see guards back in the morning.  You on your own at night once locked in. It is the belly of the beast. You better be built for that or you will not make it.   Some people think I am hard I talk shit, but i have seen it all and i try to tell you what I have learned and yes you can challenge me, but learn Spanish and the streets first.  I always say learn the culture get it together because you fall no one can save you but you there.  I know the streets the language and people that are good and bad, but the important thing they know me and you got to respect the culture, but a lot come there and do not.  Look at the anger they have right now.  Why because they mad a lot of you all think you all that and show no respect to the culture and they want revenge over this incident.

Again, you a player you run the streets anytime because you known. If you not you need to be very careful because people are looking for revenge.  A macho culture who does not like foreigners hurting their women.  That simple.
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« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2018, 08:27:08 PM »
Damn, my condolences to her family and friends. I'm sure they will get the justice they deserve. That dude is DONE, son. With all this drama going on,  from the taxi strike to this,  I'm wondering if I should still visit in January smh.

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« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2018, 08:37:08 PM »
What stories you hear of Victoria

I said before  I use to have a chick from a Santo domingo barrio.  I talked to her brother who was a knuck who you could not tell anything.  He robbed someone connected and that was that.  Wednesday and Sundays are visiting days were people line up to bring food and supplies.  Once you hit last check point all you see is inmates in shorts in your face begging for money and prison controlled by big boys that you pay for a place to sleep mattresses, etc... nothing free in there no money you sleep on the floor.  Imagine be in there with no Spanish.  They do have a foreigner side.  You get locked in to your area at 9 and you see guards back in the morning.  You on your own at night once locked in. It is the belly of the beast. You better be built for that or you will not make it.   Some people think I am hard I talk shit, but i have seen it all and i try to tell you what I have learned.  I always say learn the culture get it together because you fall no one can save you but you there.  I know the streets the language and people that are good and bad, but the important thing they know me and you got to respect the culture, but a lot come there and do not.  Look at the anger they have right now.  Why because they mad a lot of you all think you all that and show no respect to the culture and they want revenge over this incident.

I just want to say, that really doesnt sound any worse than a max security prison in America.. if you can't handle yourself you're going to be somebody's or a groups bitch..  Prison is not for the faint hearted (or anybody really).. if the guy had murdered a woman that way here in america he would be a target also.. maybe before he gets to the prison..  The only difference is the language and conditions of the prison, but they have prisons in america where its so overcrowded people sleeping on the floor too in filthy conditions. The food *if it can be classified as food* is barely edible and the inmates may take it from you, The guards wont save you in america just like I'd imagine any other country, talking to the guards will probably get you killed too just like here.

Another thing, black people have been through a lot of shit, so I think it's only a matter of time until this racist shit over here boils over. It's the same feeling for black people when a white officer shoots and kills a unarmed black person or kid, I know of some people who just went out and shot a cop sitting in the car oblivious to the ambush.. 

America may be a 1st world country, but everyone doesnt have it that good. Particularly AA, a black kid was lynched a couple weeks ago here in Ferguson,  I know people ready to go to the city and take action.. it sucks everywhere, but we have to accept it over here. thats what really sucks, everyone seems to act like this isnt something you hear about over here everyday.. it's open season on POC here... I'm used to being on high alert, and I'm not afraid to draw on a cop.. I'm not going to get gunned down for doing nothing at all except complying.. ijs..

I hate to change the subject,  I feel for the lady and her family. I hope her kids will be ok, but this is all around me in America, kids are made orphans everyday by people who have badges.. They shooting people with no criminal record at all.. people with cpl licences, businesses, etc, if this bothers people that bad here Why don't you feel this kind of empathy with your own fellow citizens?  Im not racist at all, but I feel it's worth mentioning. America is deploying military to the border now for a few thousand hispanic people, what are they going to do? *its the military*

The prisons there can't possibly be worse than a prison where gang rape and murder happens on a regular it will just be your own people instead of foreigners.  May the lady find justice, and hopefully nobody else gets hurt behind this...
Haitians got that work...

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2018, 08:43:52 PM »
What stories you hear of Victoria

I said before  I use to have a chick from a Santo domingo barrio.  I talked to her brother who was a knuck who you could not tell anything.  He robbed someone connected and that was that.  Wednesday and Sundays are visiting days were people line up to bring food and supplies.  Once you hit last check point all you see is inmates in shorts in your face begging for money and prison controlled by big boys that you pay for a place to sleep mattresses, etc... nothing free in there no money you sleep on the floor.  Imagine be in there with no Spanish.  They do have a foreigner side.  You get locked in to your area at 9 and you see guards back in the morning.  You on your own at night once locked in. It is the belly of the beast. You better be built for that or you will not make it.   Some people think I am hard I talk shit, but i have seen it all and i try to tell you what I have learned.  I always say learn the culture get it together because you fall no one can save you but you there.  I know the streets the language and people that are good and bad, but the important thing they know me and you got to respect the culture, but a lot come there and do not.  Look at the anger they have right now.  Why because they mad a lot of you all think you all that and show no respect to the culture and they want revenge over this incident.

I just want to say, that really doesnt sound any worse than a max security prison in America.. if you can't handle yourself you're going to be somebody's or a groups bitch..  Prison is not for the faint hearted (or anybody really).. if the guy had murdered a woman that way here in america he would be a target also.. maybe before he gets to the prison..  The only difference is the language and conditions of the prison, but they have prisons in america where its so overcrowded people sleeping on the floor too in filthy conditions. The food *if it can be classified as food* is barely edible and the inmates may take it from you, The guards wont save you in america just like I'd imagine any other country, talking to the guards will probably get you killed too just like here.

Another thing, black people have been through a lot of shit, so I think it's only a matter of time until this racist shit over here boils over. It's the same feeling for black people when a white officer shoots and kills a unarmed black person or kid, I know of some people who just went out and shot a cop sitting in the car oblivious to the ambush.. 

America may be a 1st world country, but everyone doesnt have it that good. Particularly AA, a black kid was lynched a couple weeks ago here in Ferguson,  I know people ready to go to the city and take action.. it sucks everywhere, but we have to accept it over here. thats what really sucks, everyone seems to act like this isnt something you hear about over here everyday.. it's open season on POC here... I'm used to being on high alert, and I'm not afraid to draw on a cop.. I'm not going to get gunned down for doing nothing at all except complying.. ijs..

I hate to change the subject,  I feel for the lady and her family. I hope her kids will be ok, but this is all around me in America, kids are made orphans everyday by people who have badges.. They shooting people with no criminal record at all.. people with cpl licences, businesses, etc, if this bothers people that bad here Why don't you feel this kind of empathy with your own fellow citizens?  Im not racist at all, but I feel it's worth mentioning. America is deploying military to the border now for a few thousand hispanic people, what are they going to do? *its the military*

The prisons there can't possibly be worse than a prison where gang rape and murder happens on a regular it will just be your own people instead of foreigners.  May the lady find justice, and hopefully nobody else gets hurt behind this...


No comparison to us prison.  I have seen it.  Not saying anything else on that.  Read this link and tell me if this compares to a USA prison:

http://www.natap.org/2006/newsUpdates/100306_05.htm


https://vimeo.com/97159995


https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e9e_1481064648
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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2018, 09:07:45 PM »
What stories you hear of Victoria

I said before  I use to have a chick from a Santo domingo barrio.  I talked to her brother who was a knuck who you could not tell anything.  He robbed someone connected and that was that.  Wednesday and Sundays are visiting days were people line up to bring food and supplies.  Once you hit last check point all you see is inmates in shorts in your face begging for money and prison controlled by big boys that you pay for a place to sleep mattresses, etc... nothing free in there no money you sleep on the floor.  Imagine be in there with no Spanish.  They do have a foreigner side.  You get locked in to your area at 9 and you see guards back in the morning.  You on your own at night once locked in. It is the belly of the beast. You better be built for that or you will not make it.   Some people think I am hard I talk shit, but i have seen it all and i try to tell you what I have learned.  I always say learn the culture get it together because you fall no one can save you but you there.  I know the streets the language and people that are good and bad, but the important thing they know me and you got to respect the culture, but a lot come there and do not.  Look at the anger they have right now.  Why because they mad a lot of you all think you all that and show no respect to the culture and they want revenge over this incident.

I just want to say, that really doesnt sound any worse than a max security prison in America.. if you can't handle yourself you're going to be somebody's or a groups bitch..  Prison is not for the faint hearted (or anybody really).. if the guy had murdered a woman that way here in america he would be a target also.. maybe before he gets to the prison..  The only difference is the language and conditions of the prison, but they have prisons in america where its so overcrowded people sleeping on the floor too in filthy conditions. The food *if it can be classified as food* is barely edible and the inmates may take it from you, The guards wont save you in america just like I'd imagine any other country, talking to the guards will probably get you killed too just like here.

Another thing, black people have been through a lot of shit, so I think it's only a matter of time until this racist shit over here boils over. It's the same feeling for black people when a white officer shoots and kills a unarmed black person or kid, I know of some people who just went out and shot a cop sitting in the car oblivious to the ambush.. 

America may be a 1st world country, but everyone doesnt have it that good. Particularly AA, a black kid was lynched a couple weeks ago here in Ferguson,  I know people ready to go to the city and take action.. it sucks everywhere, but we have to accept it over here. thats what really sucks, everyone seems to act like this isnt something you hear about over here everyday.. it's open season on POC here... I'm used to being on high alert, and I'm not afraid to draw on a cop.. I'm not going to get gunned down for doing nothing at all except complying.. ijs..

I hate to change the subject,  I feel for the lady and her family. I hope her kids will be ok, but this is all around me in America, kids are made orphans everyday by people who have badges.. They shooting people with no criminal record at all.. people with cpl licences, businesses, etc, if this bothers people that bad here Why don't you feel this kind of empathy with your own fellow citizens?  Im not racist at all, but I feel it's worth mentioning. America is deploying military to the border now for a few thousand hispanic people, what are they going to do? *its the military*

The prisons there can't possibly be worse than a prison where gang rape and murder happens on a regular it will just be your own people instead of foreigners.  May the lady find justice, and hopefully nobody else gets hurt behind this...

Dude, The worst prison in the worst jurisdiction in the U.S. is a cakewalk compared to anything a prisoner will see in the RD or anyplace else in the developing world. Be for real!!

Yes, in most prisons the weak get preyed on by the strong but in most U.S prisons prisoners  their  is  some level of order and control with some possibility of humane treatment(Say hospital visit after incident xyz, option to go to solitary if you can't survive in gen pop, non tasty but nutritional sustenance multiple times daily). If you get locked up in the RD and you don't have someone to pay to bring you food daily you will starve to death full stop end of story.

Also, not sure if you realized what you wrote in your post but unless "Those People" you say you know of have been apprehended and are in custody you may be getting a knock on your door any day soon.


Keep us posted!
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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2018, 09:21:23 PM »
Why don't they feed the inmates

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2018, 09:24:15 PM »
Just got word news has hit Puerto Plata.  Just on the news.  Waiting for the story to pop up.  Not good.  You can not touch a Dominican if your a foreigner.  This is exactly why you do not listen to the embassy because you could be in the wrong place when people are looking for revenge.  You not a player, do not speak Spanish and respected on the streets as a foreigner, I would not venture out of sosua until this calms down.

They are still saying haitian and this guy was known to hit women.  That is what the streets are saying.  Not  sure because Africans look like Haitian to them.  Also, for you who do not understand the video they say he is haitian.
wonder if u are just defending yourself from an attack?

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2018, 09:30:44 PM »
I plan to travel to sosu a December do u think it's good to travel there now

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« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2018, 09:32:00 PM »
They don't feed the inmate because they can . Prison in the DR is not like the US you will be a minority in their they probably have a rule that they have to feed you but good luck complaining  that you did not eat . I had a friend that spent some time in the prison he had money he had to pay for his bed and food he got out early money talk but he did not kill a woman with 4 children

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Re: Murder-Alicia Beach Hotel with Video
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2018, 09:32:17 PM »
Why don't they feed the inmates

The government barely gives money to policeman patrolling the streets to put gas in their cars so they can patrol for a full shift.

I don't suppose whatever government agency that's responsible for prisons has any serious concerns about making sure their limited  budget dollars are used to feed prisoners versus say used to build  mansions for various ministers and their minions but that's likely part of the problem. Limited funds available and what is available does not make it to the intended purpose.

 


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