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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2020, 05:48:49 PM »
 Fellas have you ever heard about the poisonous snake and the alligator. The snake ask the alligator for a ride across the swamp because it was a great distance. The alligator agrees under 1 condition that the snake does not bite him. The snake agrees and the alligator takes him across. When they touch land the snake bites the shit out of the alligator and as the poison is locking up his vitals he ask the snake...Why did you bite me.. The snake replies....You knew I was a snake when you gave me the ride.

My point fellas is they are what they are....

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2020, 08:33:43 AM »
Moral of the story is if you lend a stranger a hand, in particular when they did not ask for your help, you’re doing it out if the goodness of your heart. Believing they owe you something means that your intention was not help, but to take the reigns, perhaps in a lesser degree, of the power you believed they were subjected to. Same here at home. Just because you helped someone, who once again did not ask for your help, does not mean that they now owe you in return.
You are correct.   In the scenario presented, you do not have any agreement between you and the chica that she will fuck with you if she's released based on your verbal effort.   One of a womans greatest weapons ,  besides deception, manipulation ( crying,anger, withdrawal of sex or attention )  is a man's own folly in dealing with women.   

It's that assumption, that if i do this ( pay my dues ) , she will see that effort and reward me accordingly.   Many men get married based on that assumption.   Only to find out that all of that effort, all of those sacrifices for a woman and her children ( yeah her children ), meant very little.  In her mind that is what you are supposed to do, without reward or expectations.   You are a mule and a utility so dont expect to be looked at any different.   And especially in an environment where you are regarded as being a full ATM machine.   Cant give away or discount pussy with one of them right there ready to give his money away.

Women often dont have to do shit, except sit back and watch us make fools of our selves plotting for a womans juice box throughout our lives.    Many times I have to laugh at myself knowing full well of what I'm doing or plotting to do, aint got nothing to do with being sincere.   It can be a full time job at times trying to do what you know is best rather than focused on what you think is going to make you feel good.    All of this is not anything to be concerned about.   We need challenges like this.   Gives us something constructive to do.    Dont strive for perfection.   Just be pleased the times you get it right.   Mind over matter.   
« Last Edit: January 03, 2020, 08:36:25 AM by murano2010 »

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2020, 10:40:50 AM »
It is the frog and the scorpion. An alligator would not give a snake a ride across the water. They are both predators lol.

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2020, 03:13:20 AM »
This is a much needed topic/post.   It's a wake up call and reinforcement.   Chicas get pay, benefits and favors when they earn it.  Stick with that narrative, and you cant go wrong.   You stay balanced with that model.    Get that Matrix mentality out of your system of feeling sorry for these mutants, or trying to look like a nice guy.   Nice guys are regarded as suckers. 

And dont think your gesture of good will , will reward you with appreciative pussy.    Most of the time, you are looked at like an untapped simp.    If the simp was willing to rescue my dumb ass from the cops, what else can I get out of this sucker?   Thats the default mentality you are more likely working with.   It's NOT worth the risk trying to find out if this one chick is the exception.   That getting pussy as a reward for saving a chic works in the movies.  It's scripted.   

Shit even in the states, if a dude tries to save a chick,  that chick will assume she probably can use you for other shit ( including non monetary shit ).    Why do guys think it will be any different with a chick who is there selling pussy for a living?   Giving a man pussy without payment hurts these maggot brains.   Thats why they are ungrateful for most of the extra shit you do with or for them (drinks,food, moto money, taxi, babysitting money, giving her chump change on the street ).   They figure you are just a thirsty simp that cant help himself when it comes to women.   

Again, pay them what they earn, and you are in sync with the game.     It's not about the amount you give away, it's the principle and the message you are sending to others about yourself.      If you are not a simp, then stop doing simpish things with these muggs.   You need love, appreciation, loyalty?  Get a dog, or move to a country where the culture is different.       

My man THIS is why I made a post (in another thread) about catching chicas in the daytime who call for a bill to get paid. All that nonsense dude was talking about increasing your finances and shit, not being cheap, etc.....he missed the WHOLE point. A chica gotta EARN her bread, just like I gotta EARN her respect. IDGAF about going without pussy out here. My mindset is:

-I am 100% doing THAT CHICA a favor by giving her 1000 to 1500 pesos to fuck for that bill money.
-A chica will ALWAYS lie about how much money she has.

I didn't save the club chica expecting pussy (that's just stupid, but props to whomever got free pussy from it). I've saved a few chicas from cops (because I hate bad cops). One chica reminded me that I had saved her like 2 years ago coming off of the beach (I was like THAT WAS YOU? LOL). Call me a simp for that, but I felt good that she acknowledged in front of her friend - and it didn't cost me a peso.

I have a few buddies out here paying for a chick's entire existence....and STILL having issues with her like they are back in the USA. I don't feel sorry for these dudes either because they can find a chick that will AT LEAST play the game better.

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2020, 07:14:00 AM »
It never ceases to amaze me how short sighted Sosua putas can be. Mongers just want to feel good at the end of a session. That’s it.

My main chica is neither the hottest chica on the strip nor frankly the most sexually talented (although she’s not bad). But there’s something about her that makes me feel good. She won’t leave my room until I’m happy. She gets 5000 pesos per full day, plus meals, gifts, activities, and even the occasional WU in return.

Chicas who burn mongers are leaving repeat sessions, gifts, WUs, and referrals to other mongers on the table. I just don’t get it.
Bingo Spot on !,, Yes the good repeat chica you can chill with,, Same page im on, $100 per day 24 hours,  unlimited sex, im an old guy so i wont be heavy hitting the toto,  Sure drinks food a few gifts good to go,, funny i bump into a few chicas that were pain in the asses my last trip ,one chica i had smashed once came up looking for a session, told her know kept begging and whineing,, lousy approach and attitude,, bye bye chica!  She was a slim light skined hatian  chica,, not worth the head ache,, Howerver i smashed her sister,  much better a few trips back !!!

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2020, 07:15:24 AM »
This is a much needed topic/post.   It's a wake up call and reinforcement.   Chicas get pay, benefits and favors when they earn it.  Stick with that narrative, and you cant go wrong.   You stay balanced with that model.    Get that Matrix mentality out of your system of feeling sorry for these mutants, or trying to look like a nice guy.   Nice guys are regarded as suckers. 

And dont think your gesture of good will , will reward you with appreciative pussy.    Most of the time, you are looked at like an untapped simp.    If the simp was willing to rescue my dumb ass from the cops, what else can I get out of this sucker?   Thats the default mentality you are more likely working with.   It's NOT worth the risk trying to find out if this one chick is the exception.   That getting pussy as a reward for saving a chic works in the movies.  It's scripted.   

Shit even in the states, if a dude tries to save a chick,  that chick will assume she probably can use you for other shit ( including non monetary shit ).    Why do guys think it will be any different with a chick who is there selling pussy for a living?   Giving a man pussy without payment hurts these maggot brains.   Thats why they are ungrateful for most of the extra shit you do with or for them (drinks,food, moto money, taxi, babysitting money, giving her chump change on the street ).   They figure you are just a thirsty simp that cant help himself when it comes to women.   

Again, pay them what they earn, and you are in sync with the game.     It's not about the amount you give away, it's the principle and the message you are sending to others about yourself.      If you are not a simp, then stop doing simpish things with these muggs.   You need love, appreciation, loyalty?  Get a dog, or move to a country where the culture is different.       

I didn't save the club chica expecting pussy (that's just stupid, but props to whomever got free pussy from it).
As men we can all relate.  Getting pussy may not have been your motivation.  But you shared some key parts towards your motivation.    And let me say for the record, we have all been there. 

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She was GORGEOUS. I saw some fear in her eyes, so I was like YES, grabbed her arm and pulled her next to me.

Cop walked away and this UNGRATEFUL BITCH walked away with no "gracias, papi" or nothing. I was like DE NADA! Feeling kinda embarrassed because the homies didn't even FLINCH to help her, as if they already knew these hoes are ungrateful.

Shit has me sour on them hoes to this day.
What you shared was very candid in what lead to you trying to help.  Her physical appearance and seeing her fear,  for starters.   You can throw in your disdain for certain cops as a bonus.   But the main thing you shared is,  her being gorgeous, and her having fear in her eyes.    Now lets say it was some bummy looking Haitian dude being handled by the cops?   Would we be as inclined to vouch for this stranger without hesitation the way we would for the gorgeous chica?   After all they are both there to hustle.   

Speaking for myself,  I might be hesitant.  I may need some other motivation.   But even if I spoke up for the guy, I would still have a problem if the dude never said thank you or acknowledged my help.    I feel the same way when I hold a door open for someone or a group, and not one mugg acknowledges it, and says anything.   Im flexible though.   I dont entirely stop holding doors or stop feeling like saving a chica,  but after being dissed a few times, I am not quick to avail myself when it's not necessary or required.     

I dont think saving a chick from being arrested makes one a simp in of itself.   But the motivation behind saving a chick seems to be more about the gesture to make oneself feel good.   In fact, that generally is the motivation behind a lot of shit we do above and beyond whats warranted.   But is that a worthwhile reason for doing shit for others that may never do shit for you?  Especially if being ungrateful runs rampant within the environment and culture?   

The reality is, sometimes we get dissed more than we get attaboys in that effort to feel good doing shit for others.    But that one diss especially by a person we gave a special pass to because of the way they looked, or we felt sorry because of their fear is enough to reinforce the habit of mainly doing shit when it's earned, moreso than doing it just to feel good ( or acknowledged ).   

Women often use ploys to get out of shit.  Fear of getting caught?  Naw?  How about fear of not making any money so I need to devise a trick to get out of this?   And the dude that helps for his own motivation doesnt match her motivation, which is to get free by any means necessary.   HER no acknowledgement or no thank you,  is a message IMO on how that chick really considers what you represent to her.  NOTHING.   In fact, get out of my way, so I can go make me some money.   Wasting my goddam time.

Nothing I say is etched in stone.  I say we should be flexible and do whatever we want in any given moment.  Learn from our own experiences.   We will all know the outcome for our good will gestures in a few minutes.  Locals will see to that.  LOL.   And depending on the outcome, we can reflect on what was our motivation?   Conditioning?  Programming?  Esteem issues?   Looking for appreciation or acknowledgement?   Or just to feel good?    im learning to reinforce the habit of feeling better giving them mainly what they EARN.   Anything else? I try not to have any expectations for thank yous, or acknowledgement.
That way I avoid more embarrassing moments, and/or being sour over certain situations.   
« Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 07:24:36 AM by murano2010 »

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2020, 09:06:31 AM »
Something popped in my head for pondering.   How often do we see local men coming to the aid of chicas about to be arrested?  How often do we see chicas looking for help, or support from local men, especially if they are standing right there like we are?   I tend to notice, chicas seek out foreigners for quick protection from the cops before they would a local man.    Local men have an air of indifference.  They dont get involved or look concerned over what happens to a particular chica,  unless that was his workhorse that got caught.   They see she's gorgeous.  They see she has fear in her eyes.  None of that motivates much of a reaction from enough local men.   Perhaps they know something we dont?   

When you are the only one in your tourist group thinking of helping save a chica, but your boys dont even flinch to help.   Thats worth paying attention to.    Generally,  local men and the chicas dont look to each other to help or be helped.   Are there exceptions?  Of course.  But whats more common or likely?   
« Last Edit: January 05, 2020, 09:35:25 AM by murano2010 »

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2020, 08:20:18 PM »
For sure  Locals  kinda dont give two hoots about chicas getting in altercations with cops or other chicas,, unless its fatal or a monger kills a chica,,, just an obervation,, Also  as a visitor to the DR its best to stay out of locals  fighting or chicas brawling,,,!!!!If shit goes south the cops are going to side with the chicas or locals !!!!

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2020, 05:29:28 AM »
My man THIS is why I made a post (in another thread) about catching chicas in the daytime who call for a bill to get paid. All that nonsense dude was talking about increasing your finances and shit, not being cheap, etc.....he missed the WHOLE point. A chica gotta EARN her bread, just like I gotta EARN her respect. IDGAF about going without pussy out here. My mindset is:

-I am 100% doing THAT CHICA a favor by giving her 1000 to 1500 pesos to fuck for that bill money.
-A chica will ALWAYS lie about how much money she has.

I didn't save the club chica expecting pussy (that's just stupid, but props to whomever got free pussy from it). I've saved a few chicas from cops (because I hate bad cops). One chica reminded me that I had saved her like 2 years ago coming off of the beach (I was like THAT WAS YOU? LOL). Call me a simp for that, but I felt good that she acknowledged in front of her friend - and it didn't cost me a peso.

I have a few buddies out here paying for a chick's entire existence....and STILL having issues with her like they are back in the USA. I don't feel sorry for these dudes either because they can find a chick that will AT LEAST play the game better.

I had a similar conversation with him.  Telling me I need get my life right so I can pay a Sosua ho more money.  I am not paying what I pay because I am poor, I pay what I pay because I can and I don't get the logic of paying more.  And I ain't scrounging the bottom of the barrel either.  The thing is, different dudes get different quotes from the girls. If you look like a kid in candy store you going quoted. I move differently than most dudes that visit the DR.  I either there solo or with a wing man.  I am low key.  I don't stunt.  I don't need to be seen as the flyest guy in the room or the dude the chicks love the best.  I know dudes talk about their game, their swag and  their gear but dudes are throwing arond money at those chicks to get that love and the dudes who can't afford it surround themselves with scrubs to get the love. Once the chicks realize that a dude crave that kind of validation then they know they can turn on that groupie charm and get him to pay big money.  I don't need that type of validation and it shows by the way I move and carry myself so they don't play those reindeer games with me.   

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Re: Captain Save A Zoe!!
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2020, 07:03:35 AM »
Dont be that guy Eager Beaver,, Most of us have earned your Sosua stripes by dealing with hoes,, the key word bargin your price,  do the interview,, dont get hosed by these chicas,, if you need a quick smash and dash just grab a desperate street rat    500-1000 pesos    quick 15 minute nut and out the door,, or if you see that Dime 9 or 10 get her whatts app you can day time Smash at Half Price !!!!!

 


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