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Title: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 06:22:58 AM
I have now read countless stories from mongers saying chicas hitting you up for 125.00 and up. Yet certain mongers and expat mongers who live there were saying it is a buyers market. You/they were getting and can get pussy for a pack of chewing gum based on need and desperation from the lack of tourist. Who the hell is lying and who the hell is telling the truth!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: PoonTangClan on August 01, 2020, 06:29:29 AM
I have now read countless stories from mongers saying chicas hitting you up for 125.00 and up. Yet certain mongers and expat mongers who live there were saying it is a buyers market. You/they were getting and can get pussy for a pack of chewing gum based on need and desperation from the lack of tourist. Who the hell is lying and who the hell is telling the truth!

I don’t think anyone is lying. Chicas will always quote the most to see who is foolish enough to pay it, and 3 out of 5 times, they’ll always find a simp who will.

Those who know better won’t be taken advantage of. It is indeed a buyer’s market, but not for fools.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: ravi_yadav2000 on August 01, 2020, 06:50:13 AM
An expat living there and a tourist have a lot of differences.

The expat will always try to keep the prices low coz he lives there. Plus he probably has a pool of chicas whom he repeats with so he gets discounted pricing. Since an expat living there has a lot of time on his hand he need not fuck a high priced pussy if he comes across it. He can always try another day to find cheap pussy.

A tourist on the other hand is only there for a week or two max. And plus he has a budget for everyday. Since he does not have time on his hands if he finds expensive pussy he will pay for it coz he may not get her another time. Plus if he has budgeted to fuck two girls in a day and finds an expensive pussy he can fuck just one girl that day instead of two and call it a day. Since he may not have repeats the girls, at least who are new to him, will charge him more. If he repeats with them then he gets discounted pricing.

My point is it depends on whose perpspective you are looking at things from. Both are right in their own.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Ghost of PB on August 01, 2020, 08:15:05 AM
Who cares who spends what! Another man should be clocking another mans pockets! I was told you never worry about another mans money unless you going to add or subtract. This theory of weekend warriors inflation.....nothing stays the same price and chicas ain’t stupid.  They know American dollar is worth more then pesos. If they quote you $100 (5800 pesos) your more likely to say $75-80(4350-4640 pesos) they make extra on the exchange rate. This is why you hear a lot chicas day American money only now. They will bank 4 mil which is their set rate and use the extra for food and expenses will they are in Sosua. A chica friend explained this to me. There’s also two types of chicas who sell pussy... one who does it out of desperation and has no other ways or means to feed her family and ones who want money to live lavish. Had a chica tell me she’s going to Sosua to make money because she wants to buy a bed. A lot of these high price dimes live better then expats.... in my years of going to Sosua and meeting expats and going to their houses or apartments.... most are tiny shit holes ... I can only think of one expat I meet that had a nice villa. Now I’ve been to chicas apartments and house and majority are living very good. Apartments are hooked up. Some have houses and  a nanny
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Raul67 on August 01, 2020, 08:39:43 AM
Expats don’t lie about what they pay. Buy one a drink and listen to their advice.

Renting a car and pulling from Puerto Plata was the best decision I‘ve made. Line them up on Badoo or Tinder. Arrange to pick them up early in the day so if you aren’t impressed, on to the next. If they are playing the long game, it’s drinks or dinner, many are; problem is I only fall in love for 2 hours max. Next trip I’m finding a place that’s chica friendly in Puerto Plata.

Based on dating apps, Santiago is probably better. Looking forward to operating in the Santiago environment.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: JoeyInNY on August 01, 2020, 08:52:00 AM
Expats don’t lie about what they pay. Buy one a drink and listen to their advice.

Renting a car and pulling from Puerto Plata was the best decision I‘ve made. Line them up on Badoo or Tinder. Arrange to pick them up early in the day so if you aren’t impressed, on to the next. If they are playing the long game, it’s drinks or dinner, many are; problem is I only fall in love for 2 hours max. Next trip I’m finding a place that’s chica friendly in Puerto Plata.

Based on dating apps, Santiago is probably better. Looking forward to operating in the Santiago environment.

Puerto Plata is a shithole. Hoes are fat, ugly, and overpriced. No CESTUR to watch your drunken ass so you're on your own to get robbed by every tigre with a shank. Lots of crime even during the day. Beaches are filthy and polluted. No chica friendly hotels except for the sleazy cabanas that are worse than La Victoria prison. You've been warned...stay in Sosua and STAY OUT OF PUERTO PLATA!!!! This goes double for Santiago. Stay in Sosua and don't go anywhere else!!!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Ghost of PB on August 01, 2020, 09:17:43 AM
I agree that Puerta plata is a shithole! Everything is blah blah blah. If you know the streets your good. They the same everywhere. I don’t listen to expats in Sosua because they ain’t living like that. Most are old black Americans on military pension. You see the difference between expats in La Romana or even Punta Cana... the quality pussy they are getting way surpasses Sosúa. Real talk Sosua is mostly hood boogers from bigger cities... once in awhile you get quality ain’t no different the Boca chica. Expats advice I take with a gain of salt. Dudes are on vacation and have money to spend .... they ain’t hearing hold the line... they see ass and the want it!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: ccme_hobby on August 01, 2020, 09:54:45 AM
Puerto Plata is definitely a lot more serious than Sosua. No one to hold your hand there. And ya Puerto Plata chicas are below average for the island.

But it ain’t that bad. If you stay within a few blocks of the Malecon and the old town square it’s actually quite a bit nicer than Sosua. Beaches are meh though compared to Playa Sosua (which is top notch).

If you’re a responsible adult that speaks some Spanish you’ll do fine in Puerto Plata. Santiago is another animal though — conversational Spanish required.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: atl72 on August 01, 2020, 10:19:41 AM
@JoeyInNY

Funny, thinly veiled reverse psychology...
Come on bro, are "WE" weekend warriors not supposed to see right through that?

Really......
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 10:29:32 AM
In general expats are talking about a group of females that aren’t really available to tourists. Those girls for the most part don’t work the streets. When they need money they’ll visit one of the local expats on the down low. These girls of course have friends. Under the current circumstances I’m sure those friends are doing a little expat side work also. Understand that all expats ain’t got it like this.

When expats talk about bargains these are the type of chicas they’re talking about. If an expat wants to fuck a strip girl who’s in demand he’s paying the same price as a tourist. At best he’s getting a small discount because he’s on site and available in a pinch or he’s developed a friendship with a particular female.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: JoeyInNY on August 01, 2020, 10:45:32 AM
@JoeyInNY

Funny, thinly veiled reverse psychology...
Come on bro, are "WE" weekend warriors not supposed to see right through that?

Really......

QUEEEEE???
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Ghost of PB on August 01, 2020, 10:52:45 AM
In general expats are talking about a group of females that aren’t really available to tourists. Those girls for the most part don’t work the streets. When they need money they’ll visit one of the local expats on the down low. These girls of course have friends. Under the current circumstances I’m sure those friends are doing a little expat side work also. Understand that all expats ain’t got it like this.

When expats talk about bargains these are the type of chicas they’re talking about. If an expat wants to fuck a strip girl who’s in demand he’s paying the same price as a tourist. At best he’s getting a small discount because he’s on site and available in a pinch or he’s developed a friendship with a particular female.

Facts! I couldn’t said it better... chicas told me ... he lives here , he’s cool but cheapi cheapi.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 10:53:04 AM
Interesting thread...
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 10:53:11 AM
I dont know any expats claiming you can get laid for the price of chewing gum.   That could have been something meant in jest,  not literally.  Besides how many expats opinions are you relying on?      To listen to only a select few expats ( if they even exist? )  that fit a certain narrative,  and run off to start a thread about what some expats supposedly meant or said is comical in of itself.   

Are expats the only individuals that ever said it is a buyers market?  That it's much easier to negotiate for less? 

1st off, the 1st thing that comes to mind,  is if the borders are closed and you are not here to buy pussy,  how are you going to discern what the price is or was for expats if you are not here?    Once the borders opened and tourists showed up, what do you think happened to the price of pussy for many of these chicas coming from afar to be in Sosua?   

One should also consider that many if not most expats stick to their regulars.   When chicas from afar came to Sosua to work,  expats arent necessarily chomping at the bit.   These chicas just represent more options if an expat chooses to indulge.   In fact,  I am one of those expats.  I watch my buddies enjoy themselves when they get here.  Meanwhile I and many of my
expat friends, enjoy chica watching but only hire something new when we feel like it.   We keep our regulars happy and they keep us happy.   Less bullshit, less drama, less concern over service.

Build your expat resources,  it will provide you with a more well rounded perspective.  Dont rely on just expats that fit a certain narrative.  Just as all mongers are not monolithic in mindset,  neither are expats.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Metro on August 01, 2020, 11:06:32 AM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks.  No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 11:17:51 AM
In general expats are talking about a group of females that aren’t really available to tourists. Those girls for the most part don’t work the streets. When they need money they’ll visit one of the local expats on the down low. These girls of course have friends. Under the current circumstances I’m sure those friends are doing a little expat side work also. Understand that all expats ain’t got it like this.

When expats talk about bargains these are the type of chicas they’re talking about. If an expat wants to fuck a strip girl who’s in demand he’s paying the same price as a tourist. At best he’s getting a small discount because he’s on site and available in a pinch or he’s developed a friendship with a particular female.
This is a fair assessment.  I see the effort.  However I will add to what should be understood.  Expats arent in the position to get discounts simply because of availability.   There are other important variables as well.   The mere fact that many expats are not acting like they are thirsty,  like their tourist counter parts.   Expats arent necessarily getting discounts just because their expats.   It's more common for expats to refuse to pay these chicas ridiculous prices,  and more common for tourists to not give a shit.  Also language skills. 

Many expats have grasped and communicate daily with locals.   So there is something to say for how locals will treat you, if you cannot communicate at all in their language.  Thats not to say, expats are exempt from BS in dealing with locals.  But knowing and using the language helps alot.   Plus other habits expats may not have.  Not giving money away like tourists may do.  Not having hustlers following them around.  These types of habits/behaviors end up costing a tourist or any individual who does it, much more.    Based on how one is perceived and carries themselves. 

Another misconception of enough expats is how dudes in the states assume expats are on a budget because they supposedly dont have much money,  or only living off of a pension.   Or they choose to live in a modest part of the country/city.   And think that is why they arent going after and paying for the "dimes" that other guys are losing their minds over.    I know more than enough expats that are very well off financially.  ( myself included ).    That have investments, property, sufficient savings,  no debt, but are extremely conscientious when it comes to how and who they spend their money with/on.   

Consistently travel abroad, and even live in other countries besides the DR.  But a lot of guys may not be aware of that because all they know is they see a guy living in the DR someplace and think he's just getting by.   Some expats are better off financially doing nothing than enough guys working back where they come from.    It's not always about what you can show outwardly to demonstrate ones spending/financial prowess.   It's more admirable IMO,  showing the ability to be masterful in managing your money,  when it comes to handling your life, and even when indulging in ones vices ( women being one of them ).   

One of the things i like about living abroad, is that you dont have to keep up with the Jones.  No need for jewelry, fancy cars, clothes or living quarters.   Or living up to the Matrix's expectations.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: VivaLaVega on August 01, 2020, 11:51:02 AM
I have now read countless stories from mongers saying chicas hitting you up for 125.00 and up. Yet certain mongers and expat mongers who live there were saying it is a buyers market. You/they were getting and can get pussy for a pack of chewing gum based on need and desperation from the lack of tourist. Who the hell is lying and who the hell is telling the truth!

I don’t think anyone is lying. Chicas will always quote the most to see who is foolish enough to pay it, and 3 out of 5 times, they’ll always find a simp who will.

Those who know better won’t be taken advantage of. It is indeed a buyer’s market, but not for fools.

There is only one reason why a Chica will “always quote the most” is because you asked them what they want.

Come on people it’s Sosúa 101. Always... ALWAYS say what you want to pay first. It’s the cry of the weekend warriors. “Yo how much” the answer will always be $100, $125, $6000...

Spend a few minutes, get that PB vibe going then... “You are really sexy, I have $2000 pesos for you.” She smiles and says “no way, I need $3000.” You say “ok,” she wins.

You say “yo how much?” She says $4000 and you say “no way, I will give you $3000“, she says “ok,” she loses... and guess what, so will you. 
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 11:52:51 AM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks. No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.
No shade assumed.   I understand what you may have observed.  Many of the guys that may fit that description just happen to be older white guys.   Guys that have been here longer than most of us black guys.    Black expats in Sosua are in the minority in terms of representation.    And have less history as expats in Sosua than many of the older white expats.   If you pay attention to how enough black expats dress,  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   Which sometimes I get mistaken for by newbie chicas in the game.   

I will say this,  I have a very small circle of white expat associates in Sosua,  and maybe a couple I'd consider a friend.   The rest of them, I'm probably invisible to.   And thats cool.    When it comes to black expats in Sosua,  most of them know me or know of me by now.  I watched them since they started living here.   

For the most part, they are friendly and will speak 1st, they dont wait to speak.   I like that.  And thats why it is easier for me to relate to them and make fellowships.    I accept that some people are not on that level and feel more comfortable sticking with their own social circles.   Who knows?   If I knew what they were saying or thinking,  I probably wouldnt join their circle to begin with.     Everyone seeks their own level of comfort here.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 12:03:33 PM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks. No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.
No shade assumed.   I understand what you may have observed.  Many of the guys that may fit that description just happen to be older white guys.   Guys that have been here longer than most of us black guys.    Black expats in Sosua are in the minority in terms of representation.    And have less history as expats in Sosua than many of the older white expats.  If you pay attention to how enough black expats dress,  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   Which sometimes I get mistaken for by newbie chicas in the game.   

I will say this,  I have a very small circle of white expat associates in Sosua,  and maybe a couple I'd consider a friend.   The rest of them, I'm probably invisible to.   And thats cool.    When it comes to black expats in Sosua,  most of them know me or know of me by now.  I watched them since they started living here.   

For the most part, they are friendly and will speak 1st, they dont wait to speak.   I like that.  And thats why it is easier for me to relate to them and make fellowships.    I accept that some people are not on that level and feel more comfortable sticking with their own social circles.   Who knows?   If I knew what they were saying or thinking,  I probably wouldnt join their circle to begin with.     Everyone seeks their own level of comfort here.

How do tourists dress in Sosua?  List some attributes, please.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Captain Smith on August 01, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
White T Shirts.  Nike trainers with extra bounce.  Fake chains.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 12:10:19 PM
White T Shirts.  Nike trainers with extra bounce.  Fake chains.

Hmm...that's way different than I expected.  I envisioned knee-level polyester shorts, floral print shirt, just below the knee dress socks, with sandal shoes, topped off with a Kangol hat.  Oh yeah, and some jewelry.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 12:10:50 PM
I have now read countless stories from mongers saying chicas hitting you up for 125.00 and up. Yet certain mongers and expat mongers who live there were saying it is a buyers market. You/they were getting and can get pussy for a pack of chewing gum based on need and desperation from the lack of tourist. Who the hell is lying and who the hell is telling the truth!

I don’t think anyone is lying. Chicas will always quote the most to see who is foolish enough to pay it, and 3 out of 5 times, they’ll always find a simp who will.

Those who know better won’t be taken advantage of. It is indeed a buyer’s market, but not for fools.

There is only one reason why a Chica will “always quote the most” is because you asked them what they want.

Come on people it’s Sosúa 101. Always... ALWAYS say what you want to pay first. It’s the cry of the weekend warriors. “Yo how much” the answer will always be $100, $125, $6000...

Spend a few minutes, get that PB vibe going then... “You are really sexy, I have $2000 pesos for you.” She smiles and says “no way, I need $3000.” You say “ok,” she wins.

You say “yo how much?” She says $4000 and you say “no way, I will give you $3000“, she says “ok,” she loses... and guess what, so will you.

I do the exact opposite. I always ask. I will caution though that you need some spanish, a little bit of charm, and a little bit of humor to be successful with this approach.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 01, 2020, 12:14:07 PM
In general expats are talking about a group of females that aren’t really available to tourists. Those girls for the most part don’t work the streets. When they need money they’ll visit one of the local expats on the down low. These girls of course have friends. Under the current circumstances I’m sure those friends are doing a little expat side work also. Understand that all expats ain’t got it like this.

When expats talk about bargains these are the type of chicas they’re talking about. If an expat wants to fuck a strip girl who’s in demand he’s paying the same price as a tourist. At best he’s getting a small discount because he’s on site and available in a pinch or he’s developed a friendship with a particular female.
This is a fair assessment.  I see the effort.  However I will add to what should be understood.  Expats arent in the position to get discounts simply because of availability.   There are other important variables as well.   The mere fact that many expats are not acting like they are thirsty,  like their tourist counter parts.   Expats arent necessarily getting discounts just because their expats.   It's more common for expats to refuse to pay these chicas ridiculous prices,  and more common for tourists to not give a shit.  Also language skills. 

Many expats have grasped and communicate daily with locals.   So there is something to say for how locals will treat you, if you cannot communicate at all in their language.  Thats not to say, expats are exempt from BS in dealing with locals.  But knowing and using the language helps alot.   Plus other habits expats may not have.  Not giving money away like tourists may do.  Not having hustlers following them around.  These types of habits/behaviors end up costing a tourist or any individual who does it, much more.    Based on how one is perceived and carries themselves. 

Another misconception of enough expats is how dudes in the states assume expats are on a budget because they supposedly dont have much money,  or only living off of a pension.   Or they choose to live in a modest part of the country/city.   And think that is why they arent going after and paying for the "dimes" that other guys are losing their minds over.    I know more than enough expats that are very well off financially.  ( myself included ).    That have investments, property, sufficient savings,  no debt, but are extremely conscientious when it comes to how and who they spend their money with/on.   

Consistently travel abroad, and even live in other countries besides the DR.  But a lot of guys may not be aware of that because all they know is they see a guy living in the DR someplace and think he's just getting by.   Some expats are better off financially doing nothing than enough guys working back where they come from.    It's not always about what you can show outwardly to demonstrate ones spending/financial prowess.   It's more admirable IMO,  showing the ability to be masterful in managing your money,  when it comes to handling your life, and even when indulging in ones vices ( women being one of them ).   

One of the things i like about living abroad, is that you dont have to keep up with the Jones.  No need for jewelry, fancy cars, clothes or living quarters.   Or living up to the Matrix's expectations.
boils down to this itd being frugal. A mizer or if you a master  Whoremaster     can any of you sirs can master hoes.  Haha !   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Fuentes on August 01, 2020, 12:19:07 PM
You gotta understand the expat market when you are now living down there fulltime. It is very different than guys flying in once or twice a year from the states. A retired expat in his 50s or 60s has got a stable full of chicas who are always calling looking for chump change. I'm talking as little as $30 or $40. They know old dude is always good for pocket change. He may even let them run a tab -- say $100 or $150. To keep that local tab running the chicas know they have to eventually come through a few times and work it off. I'm just telling you like it is. This is the way the game is played in the ex-pat community. You won't get that treatment flying in once or twice from the states.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 12:39:43 PM
A lot of these high price dimes live better then expats.... in my years of going to Sosua and meeting expats and going to their houses or apartments.... most are tiny shit holes ... I
lmao
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks. No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.
No shade assumed.   I understand what you may have observed.  Many of the guys that may fit that description just happen to be older white guys.   Guys that have been here longer than most of us black guys.    Black expats in Sosua are in the minority in terms of representation.    And have less history as expats in Sosua than many of the older white expats.  If you pay attention to how enough black expats dress,  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   Which sometimes I get mistaken for by newbie chicas in the game.   

I will say this,  I have a very small circle of white expat associates in Sosua,  and maybe a couple I'd consider a friend.   The rest of them, I'm probably invisible to.   And thats cool.    When it comes to black expats in Sosua,  most of them know me or know of me by now.  I watched them since they started living here.   

For the most part, they are friendly and will speak 1st, they dont wait to speak.   I like that.  And thats why it is easier for me to relate to them and make fellowships.    I accept that some people are not on that level and feel more comfortable sticking with their own social circles.   Who knows?   If I knew what they were saying or thinking,  I probably wouldnt join their circle to begin with.     Everyone seeks their own level of comfort here.

How do tourists dress in Sosua?  List some attributes, please.
I didnt say anything about how tourists dress.  I said if you pay attention to how "enough black expats dress",  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   How does that translate to how ALL tourists dress as a generalization of tourists?   Is my emphasis on how tourists dress or on how enough expats dress, including how they carry themselves?   That is a piece I failed to include in my description. 

Case in point.   Many expats who have been around awhile,  stop going to the clubs,  dont hang out in the bars.   But initially many I have seen when they 1st retire,  they act like a tourist still on vacation.    So I probably should have added that part for a more complete picture.   Are you aware that some expats stop or severely limit themselves from going to clubs/bars, may no longer hang out late like they used to,  than when they were coming for vacation?     But may come out when their friends come to town.   Well these are things I am aware of for "some or enough expats" here in Sosua.   Do you doubt this or corroborate this?   If Im mistaken you have spent time abroad, so you should know how some expats behave?   

I forgot to add,  I may get mistaken as a tourist by how I dress, but also because I am usually hanging with my vacationing buddies.  Plus Im new to some of these newbie chicas.   They cant tell and dont care who they approach.   The vet chicas know who I am,  and for the most part pay me no mind.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks. No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.
No shade assumed.   I understand what you may have observed.  Many of the guys that may fit that description just happen to be older white guys.   Guys that have been here longer than most of us black guys.    Black expats in Sosua are in the minority in terms of representation.    And have less history as expats in Sosua than many of the older white expats.  If you pay attention to how enough black expats dress,  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   Which sometimes I get mistaken for by newbie chicas in the game.   

I will say this,  I have a very small circle of white expat associates in Sosua,  and maybe a couple I'd consider a friend.   The rest of them, I'm probably invisible to.   And thats cool.    When it comes to black expats in Sosua,  most of them know me or know of me by now.  I watched them since they started living here.   

For the most part, they are friendly and will speak 1st, they dont wait to speak.   I like that.  And thats why it is easier for me to relate to them and make fellowships.    I accept that some people are not on that level and feel more comfortable sticking with their own social circles.   Who knows?   If I knew what they were saying or thinking,  I probably wouldnt join their circle to begin with.     Everyone seeks their own level of comfort here.

How do tourists dress in Sosua?  List some attributes, please.
I didnt say anything about how tourists dress.  I said if you pay attention to how "enough black expats dress",  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   How does that translate to how ALL tourists dress as a generalization of tourists?   Is my emphasis on how tourists dress or on how enough expats dress, including how they carry themselves?   That is a piece I failed to include in my description. 

Case in point.   Many expats who have been around awhile,  stop going to the clubs,  dont hang out in the bars.   But initially many I have seen when they 1st retire,  they act like a tourist still on vacation.    So I probably should have added that part for a more complete picture.   Are you aware that some expats stop or severely limit themselves from going to clubs/bars, may no longer hang out late like they used to when they were coming for vacation?     But may come out when their friends come to town.   Well these are things I am aware of for "some or enough expats" here in Sosua.   Do you doubt this or corroborate this?

Actually, I was talking about black tourists.  Sometimes, my fingers don't move as fast as my brain, and forgot "black."  That why I paid enough attention to highlight a portion of your comment in red.

Forget that I asked. It was a minor request, that Captain Smith had enough sense to understand and answered my question.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 01:02:09 PM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks. No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.
No shade assumed.   I understand what you may have observed.  Many of the guys that may fit that description just happen to be older white guys.   Guys that have been here longer than most of us black guys.    Black expats in Sosua are in the minority in terms of representation.    And have less history as expats in Sosua than many of the older white expats.  If you pay attention to how enough black expats dress,  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   Which sometimes I get mistaken for by newbie chicas in the game.   

I will say this,  I have a very small circle of white expat associates in Sosua,  and maybe a couple I'd consider a friend.   The rest of them, I'm probably invisible to.   And thats cool.    When it comes to black expats in Sosua,  most of them know me or know of me by now.  I watched them since they started living here.   

For the most part, they are friendly and will speak 1st, they dont wait to speak.   I like that.  And thats why it is easier for me to relate to them and make fellowships.    I accept that some people are not on that level and feel more comfortable sticking with their own social circles.   Who knows?   If I knew what they were saying or thinking,  I probably wouldnt join their circle to begin with.     Everyone seeks their own level of comfort here.

How do tourists dress in Sosua?  List some attributes, please.
I didnt say anything about how tourists dress.  I said if you pay attention to how "enough black expats dress",  many of them still look like tourists on vacation.   How does that translate to how ALL tourists dress as a generalization of tourists?   Is my emphasis on how tourists dress or on how enough expats dress, including how they carry themselves?   That is a piece I failed to include in my description. 

Case in point.   Many expats who have been around awhile,  stop going to the clubs,  dont hang out in the bars.   But initially many I have seen when they 1st retire,  they act like a tourist still on vacation.    So I probably should have added that part for a more complete picture.   Are you aware that some expats stop or severely limit themselves from going to clubs/bars, may no longer hang out late like they used to when they were coming for vacation?     But may come out when their friends come to town.   Well these are things I am aware of for "some or enough expats" here in Sosua.   Do you doubt this or corroborate this?

Actually, I was talking about black tourists.  Sometimes, my fingers don't move as fast as my brain, and forgot "black."  That why I paid enough attention to highlight a portion of your comment in red.

Forget that I asked. It was a minor request, that Captain Smith had enough sense to understand and answered my question.
No worries,  I didnt make a complete thought when i wrote what I wrote.   No harm, no foul. 
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 01:03:30 PM
I dont know any expats claiming you can get laid for the price of chewing gum.   That could have been something meant in jest,  not literally.  Besides how many expats opinions are you relying on?      To listen to only a select few expats ( if they even exist? )  that fit a certain narrative,  and run off to start a thread about what some expats supposedly meant or said is comical in of itself.
I always have to laugh at this @murano guy lol. He likes to come behind me to disprove and write narratives to prove his point. We are going to meet at Flip Flop in October, fact, no cyber.

Anyway, I do not make a thread based off of a pop in my head. Now I have met several funny looking expats (black) that would say to me "bro you cannot get that Like I can cause you don't live here, you would have to pay double" Now what a minute, the chica he is pointing out is an 8.5, but he is a 4.5 believe me! When they say this I pay for their beer, look at them side ways and bounce. Yet when I tell them to call the chica over they will not or she ignores.

Also there were several expats saying the chicas are desperate giving it away for nothing. Many expats lie that is fact based experience. Now on the flip side, I have had several men text me saying these chicas are quoting high!. So my man you can defend all you like, but there are different stories.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 01:07:57 PM
Bottom line chicas have been quoting high regardless if you pay that price or not. One day an expat will show up with an 8 or above. I don't consider rats even pussy. Also @Ghost just said all that he has met live in little places to be respectful yet another say most expats are well off. Taylor I see he has a nice place and shows it off and Red!!!!
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Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 01:22:24 PM
I dont know any expats claiming you can get laid for the price of chewing gum.   That could have been something meant in jest,  not literally.  Besides how many expats opinions are you relying on?      To listen to only a select few expats ( if they even exist? )  that fit a certain narrative,  and run off to start a thread about what some expats supposedly meant or said is comical in of itself.
I always have to laugh at this @murano guy lol. He likes to come behind me to disprove and write narratives to prove his point. We are going to meet at Flip Flop in October, fact, no cyber.

Anyway, I do not make a thread based off of a pop in my head. Now I have met several funny looking expats (black) that would say to me "bro you cannot get that Like I can cause you don't live here, you would have to pay double" Now what a minute, the chica he is pointing out is an 8.5, but he is a 4.5 believe me! When they say this I pay for their beer, look at them side ways and bounce. Yet when I tell them to call the chica over they will not or she ignores.

Also there were several expats saying the chicas are desperate giving it away for nothing. Many expats lie that is fact based experience. Now on the flip side, I have had several men text me saying these chicas are quoting high!. So my man you can defend all you like, but there are different stories.
Like I said, you need to align yourself with more expat resources,  so you'll realize those expats you keep running into only represent themselves.     Do you happen to know any expats that think or operate differently than the expats you are socializing with?     If you do, then why arent you able to post their perspective here?    I can post various perspectives of expats?   Why are you stuck on some negative narrative?   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 01:24:29 PM
I run into different ones every time I am there! Fact! Just waiting to meet you my friend! As they say the 1st two are on me!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: SentryKnight on August 01, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Traveler, you know damn well that Murano, not gonna meet you! jjjj

He's nothing but a blabber mouth when it comes to writing threads he creates on TMBTS on How to Solicit DR Sosua Putas 101- and throwing shade at certain individuals that don't share his warped viewpoints, while hiding behind his keyboard.

Don't you respond back to him in disagreement, he then threathens to delete your comments because you hurt his feelings , disguising your comments as negative.

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Post by: PMIdump on August 01, 2020, 02:07:06 PM
The amount of BS some people post is actually funny. Then you have newbies who read it and think its true until they land and realize some us were telling the truth. Expats do have better opportunities living there to meet chicas who don't walk the streets looking for customers full time. They can throw out their price and their digits and when needed the chica can call. If she never needs it she won't call.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Bottom line chicas have been quoting high regardless if you pay that price or not. One day an expat will show up with an 8 or above. I don't consider rats even pussy. Also @Ghost just said all that he has met live in little places to be respectful yet another say most expats are well off. Taylor I see he has a nice place and shows it off and Red!!!!
Who the fuck told you MOST expats are well off?   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 02:42:41 PM
Guys in general lie about how much they pay or they lie about what they got for how much they paid. I spread myself around thin in Sosua and the prices some guys claim to pay for the more attractive girls are simply falsehoods. Anyone who goes there and tries to play in the big leagues soon finds that out.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 01, 2020, 02:55:05 PM
In general expats are talking about a group of females that aren’t really available to tourists. Those girls for the most part don’t work the streets. When they need money they’ll visit one of the local expats on the down low. These girls of course have friends. Under the current circumstances I’m sure those friends are doing a little expat side work also. Understand that all expats ain’t got it like this.

When expats talk about bargains these are the type of chicas they’re talking about. If an expat wants to fuck a strip girl who’s in demand he’s paying the same price as a tourist. At best he’s getting a small discount because he’s on site and available in a pinch or he’s developed a friendship with a particular female.

Facts! I couldn’t said it better... chicas told me ... he lives here , he’s cool but cheapi cheapi.
Bingo  Cheap pussy on the down low,,   thats if your going to be down there,, you got all the time in the world,, That dime you paid top dollar on vacation can be had for half the price if your down there 30 -90 days,,  local prices local girls,, win win  carry on sirs !
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 02:57:55 PM
I run into different ones every time I am there! Fact! Just waiting to meet you my friend! As they say the 1st two are on me!
You run into them all the time,  but the ones you associate with and listen to are mongers that lie.   Amazing.         
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 03:00:59 PM
Guys in general lie about how much they pay or they lie about what they got for how much they paid. I spread myself around thin in Sosua and the prices some guys claim to pay for the more attractive girls are simply falsehoods. Anyone who goes there and tries to play in the big leagues soon finds that out.
True!!!   And in general enough lie about the service they received or how good the chica was.   Some guys will boast about how good the session was even if they fell asleep or was too drunk to remember.     
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: PapiViejo55-2 on August 01, 2020, 03:21:51 PM
It all makes me want to focus on the "value" of of their "info" and if any can be gleaned...and how to utilize it. For me negative perspective news and opinions offer nothing useful.
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Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 03:22:13 PM
I have now read countless stories from mongers saying chicas hitting you up for 125.00 and up. Yet certain mongers and expat mongers who live there were saying it is a buyers market. You/they were getting and can get pussy for a pack of chewing gum based on need and desperation from the lack of tourist. Who the hell is lying and who the hell is telling the truth!

I don’t think anyone is lying. Chicas will always quote the most to see who is foolish enough to pay it, and 3 out of 5 times, they’ll always find a simp who will.

Those who know better won’t be taken advantage of. It is indeed a buyer’s market, but not for fools.

There is only one reason why a Chica will “always quote the most” is because you asked them what they want.

Come on people it’s Sosúa 101. Always... ALWAYS say what you want to pay first. It’s the cry of the weekend warriors. “Yo how much” the answer will always be $100, $125, $6000...

Spend a few minutes, get that PB vibe going then... “You are really sexy, I have $2000 pesos for you.” She smiles and says “no way, I need $3000.” You say “ok,” she wins.

You say “yo how much?” She says $4000 and you say “no way, I will give you $3000“, she says “ok,” she loses... and guess what, so will you.
Good advice you are sharing. I have always said it's best to tell chicas what you will pay, and negotiate up slightly if one chooses,  rather than asking chicas how much only be assured the response is going to be ridiculous.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 03:26:47 PM
It all makes me want to focus on the "value" of of their "info" and if any can be gleaned...and how to utilize it. For me negative perspective news and opinions offer nothing useful.
AMEN!   
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Post by: Raul67 on August 01, 2020, 03:30:47 PM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks.  No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.

Speaking German helps. Those guys don’t overpay.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 03:36:58 PM
I found the expats in Sosua to be crusty old fucks.  No shade @ Murano.  I haven’t met you so I’m not saying that’s you.  But the ones I met I didn’t want anything to do with.

Speaking German helps. Those guys don’t overpay.

I ask questions to fill in gaps of my understanding.  Having said that, are you German (or of German descent), or do you hang out with Germans? 
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Post by: Ghost of PB on August 01, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
I havent seen a YouTuber or expat living fly over there. Expats be living in modest dwellings and the chicas be living better then them. Like I said in 10 years only one has shown me his villa... the rest have been shabby condos.... If I’m living good here no why I’m going to DR and living worst. As for price it’s simple.... you pay for what you get. Quality cost! We alll know a dime ain’t settling for a cheap expat offers no matter what. She does have to. Only desperate chicas take desperate offers !
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
Is a desperate hoe even worth fucking? 
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 04:13:32 PM
Bottom line chicas have been quoting high regardless if you pay that price or not. One day an expat will show up with an 8 or above. I don't consider rats even pussy. Also @Ghost just said all that he has met live in little places to be respectful yet another say most expats are well off. Taylor I see he has a nice place and shows it off and Red!!!!
Who the fuck told you MOST expats are well off?
Someone said it! @murano!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 04:16:08 PM

   I know more than enough expats that are very well off financially.  ( myself included ).    That have investments, property, sufficient savings,  no debt,
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Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 04:17:06 PM
Is a desperate hoe even worth fucking?

Hell no. They are the worse. On the other hand I’ve had a couple of stuck up shit talkers who convinced me to take them because they desperately needed the money and I proceeded to fuck them senseless. Now that was fun. 😂
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Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 04:18:42 PM
@murano is going to invite me to his villa as well!
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Post by: ccme_hobby on August 01, 2020, 04:23:11 PM
I havent seen a YouTuber or expat living fly over there. Expats be living in modest dwellings and the chicas be living better then them. Like I said in 10 years only one has shown me his villa... the rest have been shabby condos.... If I’m living good here no why I’m going to DR and living worst. As for price it’s simple.... you pay for what you get. Quality cost! We alll know a dime ain’t settling for a cheap expat offers no matter what. She does have to. Only desperate chicas take desperate offers !

Many expats live frugally because they are career business people or otherwise independent and understand the value of saving, investing, and living below their means. Living below your means provides you freedom and flexibility. Stealth wealth — particularly for older gents.

Very few Dominicanas, particularly putas, understand the value of saving for the future and spend and live lavishly accordingly.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 04:30:21 PM
I know both expats that live humbly and expats of means. I had a $325 a month 400 sq ft apartment there for 8 years. The girls loved how I had it setup. I plan on spending some extended time there in a couple of years and I’ll be going the apartment rental route primarily for security purposes. You kind of want to live under the radar to keep a target off your back. The key is to get the space then fill it with your furniture and personalize it. It’s much better to rent than to sink thousands of dollars you’ll never get back into a purchase. My understanding is that TMD is renting his place in POP for $800 a month. That amount in Sosua won’t get you much of a house, but it will get you a pretty fly apartment with shared pooled.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 04:51:42 PM
I havent seen a YouTuber or expat living fly over there. Expats be living in modest dwellings and the chicas be living better then them. Like I said in 10 years only one has shown me his villa... the rest have been shabby condos.... If I’m living good here no why I’m going to DR and living worst. As for price it’s simple.... you pay for what you get. Quality cost! We alll know a dime ain’t settling for a cheap expat offers no matter what. She does have to. Only desperate chicas take desperate offers !
Sounds about right.  Chicas that live and grew up here, never had what expats may have had in their own country.  So to them,  they have a different way of thinking, and may need to have something to measure their progress in life.   Something a retired person/expat has no need to do.   Thats part of the learning curve when you retire and live in a foreign country.  Your priorities and focus is different.  Less materialistic and more substance as far as intelligence.     

Moreover,  enough expats dont think like reckless teenagers.   They realize as they get older that being flashy or extravagant is not necessary in order to live abroad.    You are comparing chicas who probably never would have anything if they hadnt laid on their backs to get it,   to individuals who may have worked 20 to 30 yrs,  built up credit,  may have had two or three cars,  a couple of houses in a lifetime and now, need none of that.   

What I dont understand, is why are you fixated on comparing expats to chicas who have done well?   Expats arent in competition with chicas,  nor are chicas in competition with expats.   If anything, why dont you compare the Dominican men to these well off chicas?   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 04:54:02 PM
I havent seen a YouTuber or expat living fly over there. Expats be living in modest dwellings and the chicas be living better then them. Like I said in 10 years only one has shown me his villa... the rest have been shabby condos.... If I’m living good here no why I’m going to DR and living worst. As for price it’s simple.... you pay for what you get. Quality cost! We alll know a dime ain’t settling for a cheap expat offers no matter what. She does have to. Only desperate chicas take desperate offers !

Many expats live frugally because they are career business people or otherwise independent and understand the value of saving, investing, and living below their means. Living below your means provides you freedom and flexibility. Stealth wealth — particularly for older gents.

Very few Dominicanas, particularly putas, understand the value of saving for the future and spend and live lavishly accordingly.
School em dude.  Some folks just have no clue.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 05:07:30 PM
I know both expats that live humbly and expats of means. I had a $325 a month 400 sq ft apartment there for 8 years. The girls loved how I had it setup. I plan on spending some extended time there in a couple of years and I’ll be going the apartment rental route primarily for security purposes. You kind of want to live under the radar to keep a target off your back. The key is to get the space then fill it with your furniture and personalize it. It’s much better to rent than to sink thousands of dollars you’ll never get back into a purchase. My understanding is that TMD is renting his place in POP for $800 a month. That amount in Sosua won’t get you much of a house, but it will get you a pretty fly apartment with shared pooled.
IMO TMD did some things ass backwards.   He dropped a big chunk of money to buy a condo,  that he ended up not wanting to live in because it no longer fit his needs.  He broadcasted that on YT.    The reason I said it was assbackwards, is because if you havent lived in the DR,  and dont know if the DR is the place you wanna live when you retire,  you dont buy property.  You rent. 

Then you end up paying $800 a month rent,  paying RD7000 to 11,000 a month in electricity.   He could have kept his $56k for the condo he bought, waited and then found his rental in PP.    That is one reason why I dont consider him a good reference to rely on for information on what to do.     I would always recommend guys rent 1st, and see if they can live in this country, and the city they chose.   

A guy may find out after a year, Colombia is the best option.   Now you got to get rid of everything you bought in the DR.   Again to me, thats assbackwards.    What Im saying is this type of information any expat can share with guys coming to the DR.   Ive done that for dozens of guys over the years.    Without being on YT, without paid consultations, no Patreon, no cash app, and no super chats.   Just one on one fellowshipping with like minded dudes looking for a little insight. 
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Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 01, 2020, 05:14:03 PM
You gotta understand the expat market when you are now living down there fulltime. It is very different than guys flying in once or twice a year from the states. A retired expat in his 50s or 60s has got a stable full of chicas who are always calling looking for chump change. I'm talking as little as $30 or $40. They know old dude is always good for pocket change. He may even let them run a tab -- say $100 or $150. To keep that local tab running the chicas know they have to eventually come through a few times and work it off. I'm just telling you like it is. This is the way the game is played in the ex-pat community. You won't get that treatment flying in once or twice from the states.
Bingo spot on! takes notes if your going to camp out for a while.
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Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 05:15:49 PM
of course the other reason to keep ones expenses reasonable,  is so they can easily afford to live in another country with the same if not better amenities than what they have in the DR.    Not to mention,  many expats still own their homes back in the states.   The thing is,  a lot cats just have no clue of what some expats are into.   They are limited in their scope, because they measure people, places and things by what they can or cannot do.   
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Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 05:32:04 PM
Ok then you are calling @Ghost a liar. One thing that a person will spend money on is their home. You can be frugal on pussy (because that is why they really retired there and you as well @murano) or frugal with other things. You have no car payment or car insurance. So to live in an underwhelming place is not being frugal. Whether you rent or buy you retire to an area for better/cheaper housing.

 So what the world is this frugal talk when @murano said a good majority of expats are well off. Yet another says he has only met one with a decent villa. Who retires to a place that should put about 2000.00 a month in your pocket to be called frugal. No car payment, no car insurance, electric is dirt cheap, food is dirt cheap. November to April there is no need for ac. "Frugal!"

No biggie but stop that frugal talk crap in the Dominican!
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Post by: ccme_hobby on August 01, 2020, 05:44:38 PM
@Traveler Who says no car payment or insurance? Lots of expats have cars. And cars are like 25% - 50% more expensive in the DR than US. Plus gas is at least 2X the cost.

And electric dirt cheap? Are you out of your mind? Electricity is probably 3-4 more expensive in the DR. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

You live in a below-your-means place to stay flexible. So you can keep your place in the US, or a you can get up and leave at any time without being tied down with an illiquid property with lots of shit in it. Expats all have an independent streak and are usually a bit eccentric. Flexibility and freedom to do whatever they want when they want is probably at the top of their priority list. Stay lean so you can be limber.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 05:57:27 PM
Ok then you are calling @Ghost a liar. One thing that a person will spend money on is their home. You can be frugal on pussy (because that is why they really retired there and you as well @murano) or frugal with other things. You have no car payment or car insurance. So to live in an underwhelming place is not being frugal. Whether you rent or buy you retire to an area for better/cheaper housing.

 So what the world is this frugal talk when @murano said a good majority of expats are well off. Yet another says he has only met one with a decent villa. Who retires to a place that should put about 2000.00 a month in your pocket to be called frugal. No car payment, no car insurance, electric is dirt cheap, food is dirt cheap. November to April there is no need for ac. "Frugal!"

No biggie but stop that frugal talk crap in the Dominican!
I realize you have the same affliction you had before,  of making up things people say that they didnt.   I said no such thing about the good majority of expats are well off.  I dont know the majority of expats to make that statement.  What I addressed was about why in the world is anybody comparing how some expats live to a small minority of chicas?   

As for living frugally,  you got that from somebody else.   Show me where I talked about living frugally?   Your blinders got you hemmed up again,  and your are incoherent.  Your thoughts are all over the place.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 06:05:56 PM
@Traveler Who says no car payment or insurance? Lots of expats have cars. And cars are like 25% - 50% more expensive in the DR than US. Plus gas is at least 2X the cost.

And electric dirt cheap? Are you out of your mind? Electricity is probably 3-4 more expensive in the DR. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

You live in a below-your-means place to stay flexible. So you can keep your place in the US, or a you can get up and leave at any time without being tied down with an illiquid property with lots of shit in it. Expats all have an independent streak and are usually a bit eccentric. Flexibility and freedom to do whatever they want when they want is probably at the top of their priority list. Stay lean so you can be limber.
Damn I couldnt have said it better myself.  Thank for sharing CC.   

@The Traveler.   In addition some of us not only have car insurance but also pay for health care and dental.   And take this into consideration,  although enough expats were drawn to living in the DR because of the women, after a while and as you get older,  women are more of an entertainment.  And option,  not a necessity when living here.   I can go days, and weeks before I decide to entertain one of my regulars.   

Not being on vacation there is no urgency or concern of getting it in,  like a guy on vacation may feel.   Also @The Traveler,  you really need to sit down and get some education.  But you need to be humble enough to embrace it.   Right now you are incorrigible.   Argumentative with no substance. 
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 07:18:19 PM

   I know more than enough expats that are very well off financially.  ( myself included ).    That have investments, property, sufficient savings,  no debt,
I asked you to tell me who said MOST Expats are well off.    What you quoted above does not say that.   My quote says "I know more than enough expats that are well off" ,  doesnt have jack to do with MOST expats are well off.    Im talking about knowing more than enough expats ( who happen to be well off ),  not saying MOST expats are well off.   Fucking troll type posts again.   

   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 07:19:10 PM
Lmao, if everything is so expensive you are the fools for moving there. That is right, it must be the chicas. No one needs a car in Sosua nor are they buying. If electricity is 3 to 4 times as much than the U.S. then you are paying 400.00 a month for electric, get the fuck out of here. So the expats with cars are paying 200.00 a month for insurance get the fuck out of here.

@murano you got a fool on your side. What the hell one would move there for if the cost was so high lol. When I see you in October you will show me everything to dispute. Matter of fact the way you talk, every expat in Sosua and PoP should know you. Looking forward to all the knowledge you have written a book on. Lmao, electricity 3 to 4 times more than in the states. On a tropical island lol! No wonder chicas selling pussy!!!

Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 07:21:17 PM
@murano is going to invite me to his villa as well!
No,  Im going to find a resident psychiatrist nearby that can handle your brand of twisted cerebral energy.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 07:21:48 PM

   I know more than enough expats that are very well off financially.  ( myself included ).    That have investments, property, sufficient savings,  no debt,
I asked you to tell me who said MOST Expats are well off.    What you quoted above does not say that.   My quote says "I know more than enough expats that are well off" ,  doesnt have jack to do with MOST expats are well off.    Im talking about knowing more than enough expats ( who happen to be well off ),  not saying MOST expats are well off.   Fucking troll type posts again.   

 
You are verifying the majority that you know so chill. My man we will meet to solve it all. Troll and cyber. At Flip Flop, and I will give my whatsapp and send you my pic so you will know who you are meeting. No more playing on words! See you and I are into it because you troll me as soon as I post. Face to face we will be grand expat of Sosua.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 07:27:47 PM

   I know more than enough expats that are very well off financially.  ( myself included ).    That have investments, property, sufficient savings,  no debt,
I asked you to tell me who said MOST Expats are well off.    What you quoted above does not say that.   My quote says "I know more than enough expats that are well off" ,  doesnt have jack to do with MOST expats are well off.    Im talking about knowing more than enough expats ( who happen to be well off ),  not saying MOST expats are well off.   Fucking troll type posts again.   

 
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 07:30:32 PM
@murano October is around the corner man. We will start the meeting with the drink of your choice. I hope that you represent man. Don't end up being a fat Barnie Rubble type dude. Ok!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: ccme_hobby on August 01, 2020, 07:36:54 PM
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy15osti/64125.pdf

IDK what the price is in 2020 as I don’t live there, but that document shows it was 18 cents per kilowatt hour in 2014. I pay 6 to 7 cents in my state.

Electricity is notoriously expensive in that country because their power infrastructure is really outdated and they don’t have any native coal or oil on the island, so it has to be shipped in.

Why do you think have the Airbnbs out in the DR charge you electricity separately if you stay longer than a week?

If you live in a small apartment you won’t spend much. But if you live in a large, luxurious villa and keep the AC at gringo temperatures — then yes you WILL be running $300 - $400 per month power bills.

Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 01, 2020, 07:40:32 PM
Then you can compare the DR average rates with those in the U.S., by state.

https://paylesspower.com/blog/electric-rates-by-state/
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 07:45:23 PM
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy15osti/64125.pdf


If you live in a small apartment you won’t spend much. But if you live in a large, luxurious villa and keep the AC at gringo temperatures — then yes you WILL be running $300 - $400 per month power bills.
Lmao, what expat lives the ac running 24/7, a fool does. How many expats live in a big luxuries villa, not many. So you are saying expats move to Sosua to pay a car note, insurance, and 400 a month electric bill, lmao! BS!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: ccme_hobby on August 01, 2020, 07:51:46 PM
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy15osti/64125.pdf


If you live in a small apartment you won’t spend much. But if you live in a large, luxurious villa and keep the AC at gringo temperatures — then yes you WILL be running $300 - $400 per month power bills.
Lmao, what expat lives the ac running 24/7, a fool does. How many expats live in a big luxuries villa, not many. So you are saying expats move to Sosua to pay a car note, insurance, and 400 a month electric bill, lmao! BS!

You’re the one saying expats shouldn’t scrimp, save, and be frugal...because as you say DR is no place to be cheap...your words.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 08:01:11 PM
Lmao, if everything is so expensive you are the fools for moving there. That is right, it must be the chicas. No one needs a car in Sosua nor are they buying. If electricity is 3 to 4 times as much than the U.S. then you are paying 400.00 a month for electric, get the fuck out of here. So the expats with cars are paying 200.00 a month for insurance get the fuck out of here.

@murano you got a fool on your side. What the hell one would move there for if the cost was so high lol. When I see you in October you will show me everything to dispute. Matter of fact the way you talk, every expat in Sosua and PoP should know you. Looking forward to all the knowledge you have written a book on. Lmao, electricity 3 to 4 times more than in the states. On a tropical island lol! No wonder chicas selling pussy!!!
I never said anything about everything is high in the DR. Once again pulling shit out of your ass.  Electricity is not 3 or 4 times as much as the US.   Electricity is relatively cheap.   It's gasoline that is more expensive. The CC poster told you that.  Why are you having trouble grasping that?    $48 to $91 US a month for full coverage car insurance is the average not $200 a month.   Some folks only need liability.  If the car is 10 yrs old many insurance companies will only let you put liability on it.   Im grandfathered in, where I can buy full coverage even if my vehicle is older than 10 years.   

Dont worry,  you are gonna get schooled.  Keep the foolish assumptions coming, I got you.     
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 08:16:52 PM
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy15osti/64125.pdf

IDK what the price is in 2020 as I don’t live there, but that document shows it was 18 cents per kilowatt hour in 2014. I pay 6 to 7 cents in my state.

Electricity is notoriously expensive in that country because their power infrastructure is really outdated and they don’t have any native coal or oil on the island, so it has to be shipped in.

Why do you think have the Airbnbs out in the DR charge you electricity separately if you stay longer than a week?

If you live in a small apartment you won’t spend much. But if you live in a large, luxurious villa and keep the AC at gringo temperatures — then yes you WILL be running $300 - $400 per month power bills.
My last bill was 2100 pesos.  The one before that 1600 pesos.   I live in a regular residential complex.  A more commericial establishment like an airbnb/hotel is likely to have their system rigged so people will pay more.   Take Ocean Village.  A friend of mine stayed there for a month 2 years ago.   At the end of his stay he got a huge electric bill, it cost him over $10,000 pesos.   He flipped, because according to him he wasnt using that much electricity to warrant that bill.

I have been living in the same place for 7 yrs,  and not once have I paid over 5000 pesos for one month.  When i leave to go live abroad,  I leave my electricity on.   My bill averages about RD 700 pesos a month when Im gone.    For one, I believe in energy efficient appliances.   So I bought my own.  2 inverter type a/cs,  inverter fridge, inverter washer/dryer.

Many places where guys go for vacation or to live,  the place is using outdated appliances that suck electricity like a fucking vampire.   And guys move in and deal with that the whole time they are renting the place.     Additionally, some places have peoples meters tied together with someone else's apt.   Very often some BS is going on, and that is why some people are told they consumed a lot of electricity.   Just one more way to fleece somebody out of more money.   So Ive been blessed.   My utility and living expenses is very low compared to other expats.         
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 08:18:13 PM
Lmao dude the other guy that you jumped on his root said electricity is 3 to 4 times higher than the U.S. Read fella read! You too busy tripping. In person man, the end!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 08:24:37 PM
Lmao dude the other guy that you jumped on his root said electricity is 3 to 4 times higher than the U.S. Read fella read! You too busy tripping. In person man, the end!
What he did was clarify where he felt electricity was considered high.  Which I dont have a problem with. I even shared an example using Ocean Village and what happened to my buddy.    However by my example, I illustrated that the cost of electricity is not the same everywhere.   That it is cheap depending where you reside.    So you got schooled twice.   
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 08:39:28 PM
 It has been verified that you are silly. So we are meeting face to face in October. That is when you can school me. Or I will laugh my ass off in your face! You probably will send someone in your place. Don't rent a high class car and say it is yours!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 08:45:27 PM
It has been verified that you are silly. So we are meeting face to face in October. That is when you can school me. Or I will laugh my ass off in your face! You probably will send someone in your place. Don't rent a high class car and say it is yours!
Sounds like a tail between the legs move to me.   You have no debate skills here and you want to see who is making you look like a fool on a message board.  Man, aint nobody coming to meet any goofy guys on vacation.   Just go to Flip Flop and put on a dunce cap and sit there like the way you represent yourself online.    Your done here.     
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: PapiViejo55-2 on August 01, 2020, 08:46:10 PM
Also for any news on Halloween parties...please post the info early so hotel accommodations can be made quickly. I really hope they host one at Las Palmeras new restaurant and pool!! Excellent location for a Halloween party imho!!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 01, 2020, 09:15:00 PM
It has been verified that you are silly. So we are meeting face to face in October. That is when you can school me. Or I will laugh my ass off in your face! You probably will send someone in your place. Don't rent a high class car and say it is yours!
Sounds like a tail between the legs move to me.   You have no debate skills here and you want to see who is making you look like a fool on a message board.  Man, aint nobody coming to meet any goofy guys on vacation.   Just go to Flip Flop and put on a dunce cap and sit there like the way you represent yourself online.    Your done here.   
Didn't think you would dude. I know you are a clown in person. All that you write is false and we all know it. You the one that sits in Merengue during the day talking to the only bartender. No one knows you at Flip Flop. You catch motos dude and live in a small apartment on budget. Come on man you say you give advice to many mongers, gtfoh. You are invisible behind the keyboard writing fantasy. I would not meet neither. You are an old expat that moved there because the states (women) did not treat you right in your old age so you moved to not Santiago or Santo Domingo but to a hoe town. To walk up and down a strip everyday. The loser cap is on your head.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 09:27:16 PM
It has been verified that you are silly. So we are meeting face to face in October. That is when you can school me. Or I will laugh my ass off in your face! You probably will send someone in your place. Don't rent a high class car and say it is yours!
Sounds like a tail between the legs move to me.   You have no debate skills here and you want to see who is making you look like a fool on a message board.  Man, aint nobody coming to meet any goofy guys on vacation.   Just go to Flip Flop and put on a dunce cap and sit there like the way you represent yourself online.    Your done here.   
Didn't think you would dude. I know you are a clown in person. All that you write is false and we all know it. You the one that sits in Merengue during the day talking to the only bartender. No one knows you at Flip Flop. You catch motos dude and live in a small apartment on budget. Come on man you say you give advice to many mongers, gtfoh. You are invisible behind the keyboard writing fantasy. I would not meet neither. You are an old expat that moved there because the states (women) did not treat you right in your old age so you moved to not Santiago or Santo Domingo but to a hoe town. To walk up and down a strip everyday. The loser cap is on your head.
Your goofy, have no debating or argumentative skills.  Cant represent an intelligent thought to save your life.  Stick with individuals on your level of goofiness.   A dunce cap waiting for you at Flip Flop bar is appropriate.     Like I said before,  you're DONE. 
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: MACK on August 01, 2020, 10:21:17 PM
Guys in general lie about how much they pay or they lie about what they got for how much they paid. I spread myself around thin in Sosua and the prices some guys claim to pay for the more attractive girls are simply falsehoods. Anyone who goes there and tries to play in the big leagues soon finds that out.


exactly Jazz!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: The Traveler on August 02, 2020, 05:08:54 AM
@murano I actually don't know where you came from. But I will say this. You say you have lived in Sosua 7 years. I would follow @Ghost advice versus your bs knowledge and info. and he doesn't even live there. You have written a book on this site that adds up to nothing. No one knows you to even follow your crap novels. @saint is the one to follow info. on here and a few more. You need to show a few pics to verify if you even live there. If you do you are one of the over the hill expats that sit on the strip all day and go in at night. We will meet in October!!!! The only true young expat that live there is Flip Flop. So I know you a funny old looking dude. Or are you that Mayor dude on YouTube lol!
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Ghost of PB on August 02, 2020, 09:03:21 AM
Don’t waste your time with dude. Lol. There use to be this goofball dude mutant on site who made YouTube videos... I met dude at a local Dominican bar through my boy. This was in the states. If it’s the same dude... this dude was a clown. I had to tell him to get away from me.  But I doubt it’s dude
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: jd66 on August 02, 2020, 10:27:54 AM
Don’t waste your time with dude. Lol. There use to be this goofball dude mutant on site who made YouTube videos... I met dude at a local Dominican bar through my boy. This was in the states. If it’s the same dude... this dude was a clown. I had to tell him to get away from me.  But I doubt it’s dude

I believe the person your are referring to goes by the name of Mulano on you tube or cheapskate jake
Although looks like most of his you tube stuff is gone now


I don't think Mulano and murano are the same person but assume Mulano is likely a member here but not sure if he is active or not.  My guess is he is not active as his posting style would out him and he would be promoting his you tube videos.

Mulano lives in Raleigh North Carolina


Here is a quick clip of mulano

https://www.facebook.com/Mulano23/videos/vb.100000611942460/2963078167055886/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Ghost of PB on August 02, 2020, 11:34:52 AM
He works as a Uber driver and Walmart in NC but is originally from Mass. he came to Mass a for some reason my man invited him to this Dominican bar we go to.... this clown made an ass of himself! I told my boy “that’s your friend” “keep this dude over there”
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Travelguy90 on August 02, 2020, 11:43:25 AM
Don’t waste your time with dude. Lol. There use to be this goofball dude mutant on site who made YouTube videos... I met dude at a local Dominican bar through my boy. This was in the states. If it’s the same dude... this dude was a clown. I had to tell him to get away from me.  But I doubt it’s dude

I believe the person your are referring to goes by the name of Mulano on you tube or cheapskate jake
Although looks like most of his you tube stuff is gone now


I don't think Mulano and murano are the same person but assume Mulano is likely a member here but not sure if he is active or not.  My guess is he is not active as his posting style would out him and he would be promoting his you tube videos.

Mulano lives in Raleigh North Carolina


Here is a quick clip of mulano

https://www.facebook.com/Mulano23/videos/vb.100000611942460/2963078167055886/?type=2&video_source=user_video_tab
I actually met Milano briefly, or a guy resembling him 1-2 years ago, in March. It was near the flip-flop extrance to the beach but closer to the beach. He heard me discussing girls in Santiago wanting 100$ and corrected me that I was thinking about old prices letting me know it was 200$ and up because he recently left with some guys. Wouldn't kick it in his circle but he had a few friends, and they were "trying" to hunt.

Trying to fight a person who's appearance is unknown is funny though. He'll probably be getting money from western Union or eating near the end of the strip watching FF from a distance.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Just_A_Guy on August 02, 2020, 12:53:08 PM
Yeah, in general, some mongers lie, whether he’s an expat or non-expat.   But I also think that should be implied, though.  Shit, some people just lie in general….it’s human nature. 

And in the case of mongers, some do it to fit whatever agenda they’re trying to sell you.  Others may lie as a weird “flex” or a “one-up” to make themselves seem more player than what they really are….(i.e. “I bagged this dime all night for the equivalent of lunch money”). 

The thing is, though, you can’t necessarily prove that they’re lying….and they know it lol.  So you just nod your head in agreement and keep it moving.   So when you read/hear something, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, and use your own judgment.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 02, 2020, 01:13:49 PM
Yeah, in general, some mongers lie, whether he’s an expat or non-expat.   But I also think that should be implied, though.  Shit, some people just lie in general….it’s human nature. 

And in the case of mongers, some do it to fit whatever agenda they’re trying to sell you.  Others may lie as a weird “flex” or a “one-up” to make themselves seem more player than what they really are….(i.e. “I bagged this dime all night for the equivalent of lunch money”). 

The thing is, though, you can’t necessarily prove that they’re lying….and they know it lol.  So you just nod your head in agreement and keep it moving.   So when you read/hear something, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, and use your own judgment.

Sosua is not that big. If you’re out and about and somewhat observant you pretty much know the level of chick must guys are dealing with. Anything he tells you should be viewed through that lens.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: MACK on August 02, 2020, 05:34:05 PM
Yeah, in general, some mongers lie, whether he’s an expat or non-expat.   But I also think that should be implied, though.  Shit, some people just lie in general….it’s human nature. 

And in the case of mongers, some do it to fit whatever agenda they’re trying to sell you.  Others may lie as a weird “flex” or a “one-up” to make themselves seem more player than what they really are….(i.e. “I bagged this dime all night for the equivalent of lunch money”). 

The thing is, though, you can’t necessarily prove that they’re lying….and they know it lol.  So you just nod your head in agreement and keep it moving.   So when you read/hear something, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, and use your own judgment.


Sosua is not that big. If you’re out and about and somewhat observant you pretty much know the level of chick must guys are dealing with. Anything he tells you should be viewed through that lens.





It's goes deeper than a pretty face.....you guys seem to think one way on this site which is weird
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 02, 2020, 05:40:14 PM
Yeah, in general, some mongers lie, whether he’s an expat or non-expat.   But I also think that should be implied, though.  Shit, some people just lie in general….it’s human nature. 

And in the case of mongers, some do it to fit whatever agenda they’re trying to sell you.  Others may lie as a weird “flex” or a “one-up” to make themselves seem more player than what they really are….(i.e. “I bagged this dime all night for the equivalent of lunch money”). 

The thing is, though, you can’t necessarily prove that they’re lying….and they know it lol.  So you just nod your head in agreement and keep it moving.   So when you read/hear something, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, and use your own judgment.


Sosua is not that big. If you’re out and about and somewhat observant you pretty much know the level of chick must guys are dealing with. Anything he tells you should be viewed through that lens.





It's goes deeper than a pretty face.....you guys seem to think one way on this site which is weird

No one said that a pretty face was required. What I was referencing was simply the quality of the catch. I might not find a particular chick attractive, but based on how she presents herself I'm going to have a real good idea of whether she's quality or thrash.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on August 02, 2020, 05:46:02 PM
When I was in sosua last weekend and briefly walked the beach, I thought the waitresses and bartenders were the cutest ones around. Thats worrisome.
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: MACK on August 02, 2020, 05:53:10 PM
Yeah, in general, some mongers lie, whether he’s an expat or non-expat.   But I also think that should be implied, though.  Shit, some people just lie in general….it’s human nature. 

And in the case of mongers, some do it to fit whatever agenda they’re trying to sell you.  Others may lie as a weird “flex” or a “one-up” to make themselves seem more player than what they really are….(i.e. “I bagged this dime all night for the equivalent of lunch money”). 

The thing is, though, you can’t necessarily prove that they’re lying….and they know it lol.  So you just nod your head in agreement and keep it moving.   So when you read/hear something, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, and use your own judgment.


Sosua is not that big. If you’re out and about and somewhat observant you pretty much know the level of chick must guys are dealing with. Anything he tells you should be viewed through that lens.





It's goes deeper than a pretty face.....you guys seem to think one way on this site which is weird

No one said that a pretty face was required. What I was referencing was simply the quality of the catch. I might not find a particular chick attractive, but based on how she presents herself I'm going to have a real good idea of whether she's quality or thrash.


aaannnddddd...how far she is willing to go for the pesos
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Bigtreetron on August 02, 2020, 06:33:27 PM
I'm In atl and most qv is 70-100 and HH is 100-200

If the dr is the same price then there is no point in going over there for coochie....
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: MACK on August 02, 2020, 06:39:24 PM
I'm In atl and most qv is 70-100 and HH is 100-200

If the dr is the same price then there is no point in going over there for coochie....


Wrong........ it's about the experience....and over there it is so much better and lets not talk about asia.....it will blow you away. It's definitely  worth it. I do not  trick in the states I date but overseas i do both. State side tricking is trash.... I do not understand how guys do it...I rather feed the homeless as a hobby
Title: Re: A lot of mongers lie! And expat mongers that live there lie! About price!
Post by: Lurker on August 02, 2020, 06:45:44 PM
I'm In atl and most qv is 70-100 and HH is 100-200

If the dr is the same price then there is no point in going over there for coochie....


Wrong........ it's about the experience....and over there it is so much better and lets not talk about asia.....it will blow you away. It's definitely  worth it. I do not  trick in the states I date but overseas i do both. State side tricking is trash.... I do not understand how guys do it...I rather feed the homeless as a hobby

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