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The Sosua Market is Cooked
« on: July 08, 2024, 09:49:07 AM »
*sigh*

I was in town recently, and things were definitely quite busy and the scene was jumping over the 4th of July weekend. Chicas outnumbered the dudes in a healthy ratio, and an abundance and variety of talent was out and about. Slim, thin, BBL regular, BBL XL, everything, lol. Whatever type you like was definitely out there, but there was only one problem: the price rates are officially cooked.

I can pretty much confirm that the average monger is going to pay at minimum (if he has himself together and has a little game) no less than 4000 pesos now (about $70, up from $50-$60) for a session, with normal maximums coming in on average at about $100-$120 (6000-7000 pesos) or more. Thinking about TLN? It’s about $200 to start. I’m talking about average to above average talent in the looks department.

The overall rate changes didn’t affect me too much due to my existing personal roster that I’ve built good relationships with, and their friend/referral connections, but new talent wise, I can tell you that most of these chicas are standing on business and standing firm. They would rather stay in the heat or go home empty handed, before they go down on their price, and that’s exactly what they’re doing. Even on slow days. They’re taking the risk of just waiting for the big fish or the thirsty paypig to give them exactly what they want.

All in all, it’s a damn shame, because the dollar is up really nicely against the Dominican peso, but too much indifference and tomfoolery from dudes willing to pay absolutely anything has allowed these chicas to close the currency gap and kill any discount or advantage the average monger would’ve had with a stronger dollar. Smfh.

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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2024, 10:44:41 AM »
There are several things I take into consideration.   I think the population of guys is divided.  By age, income, by preferences in women. 

Some guys are into the so called "baddies" and are willing to pay what they ask/expect.   Those cats may be in the minority, but those are the guys those women are looking to do business with.    Those not willing or able to pay those prices, just wont compete.   

You said something that may be considered music to the ears of the average monger.  And that is.   "abundance and variety of talent was out and about. Slim, thin, BBL regular, BBL XL, everything, lol. Whatever type you like was definitely out there"

That was the chief complaint we were accustomed to reading and hearing about from guys who complained about Sosua not having talent.  But if what you say is true, then the problem about Sosua lacking talent is not the issue as it once was.   The issue prevailing is a matter of affordability and principle for us guys.

IMO guys are still winning if they can find talent that suits them in the looks department and still be able to negotiate a price that isnt etched in stone like for the so called baddies.

The one thing I bear in mind, a lot of older guys, especially any guys who have mongered a while, they know that talent in terms of performance is just as important as the looks of the talent.    Many old cats standard of beauty measurement may be a lot more flexible than certain cats that cant accept a chick with non perfect attributes.   

Guys need to know what lane they fit in, because we all dont perceive beauty and talent the same.   

As for price?  We all dont roll the same financially.   Men like myself can certainly afford to pay the baddest chick in town $200 for an hour session.   I just wont do it, as a matter of principle to myself.    I have found many average looking but attractive chicks ( to me ) that met my standard of sexual appeal and price.    Regular chicks I dated in the states, and p4p while being abroad.   

Technically, Ive given average chicks more than $200,  the only thing is, it wasnt for an hour.  It was paid over a span of time I was comfortable with.   Same money, different rate of disbursement. 
« Last Edit: July 08, 2024, 10:57:44 AM by murano2010 »
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Re: The Sosua Market is Cooked
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2024, 01:33:13 PM »
*sigh*

I was in town recently, and things were definitely quite busy and the scene was jumping over the 4th of July weekend. Chicas outnumbered the dudes in a healthy ratio, and an abundance and variety of talent was out and about. Slim, thin, BBL regular, BBL XL, everything, lol. Whatever type you like was definitely out there, but there was only one problem: the price rates are officially cooked.

I can pretty much confirm that the average monger is going to pay at minimum (if he has himself together and has a little game) no less than 4000 pesos now (about $70, up from $50-$60) for a session, with normal maximums coming in on average at about $100-$120 (6000-7000 pesos) or more. Thinking about TLN? It’s about $200 to start. I’m talking about average to above average talent in the looks department.

The overall rate changes didn’t affect me too much due to my existing personal roster that I’ve built good relationships with, and their friend/referral connections, but new talent wise, I can tell you that most of these chicas are standing on business and standing firm. They would rather stay in the heat or go home empty handed, before they go down on their price, and that’s exactly what they’re doing. Even on slow days. They’re taking the risk of just waiting for the big fish or the thirsty paypig to give them exactly what they want.

All in all, it’s a damn shame, because the dollar is up really nicely against the Dominican peso, but too much indifference and tomfoolery from dudes willing to pay absolutely anything has allowed these chicas to close the currency gap and kill any discount or advantage the average monger would’ve had with a stronger dollar. Smfh.

Thanks for the report. If I read it correctly, you're saying the price floor has gone from 3000-4000 pesos for ST.

I do have a couple questions, however.

1. At what time and where did you collect information on pricing? We all know Pricing is different on midday than the casino at night.

2. Did you collect pricing from Haitians too? I only ask because it would be interesting if the two groups finally got their act together and teamed up to "hold the line" on the chika end.


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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2024, 02:23:21 PM »
Time is money.meaning lets say your only there for 4 days  your gonna try and bang as many chicas as you can  your not gonna sit around hopping to get thet 2000 or 3000 peso chica your gonna pay the 4000 or 5000 more if TLN,,,on the other hand an older cat there for 2 or three weeks or more has the time to seek out that tenderoni milf or chica thats up for grabs during the day time early week that will accept a lower amount,, boils down to supply and demand economics 101 !!Dont be the Dummy paying in USD . its  pesos Sirs !!

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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2024, 03:37:19 PM »
There are several things I take into consideration.   I think the population of guys is divided.  By age, income, by preferences in women. 

Some guys are into the so called "baddies" and are willing to pay what they ask/expect.   Those cats may be in the minority, but those are the guys those women are looking to do business with.    Those not willing or able to pay those prices, just wont compete.   

You said something that may be considered music to the ears of the average monger.  And that is.   "abundance and variety of talent was out and about. Slim, thin, BBL regular, BBL XL, everything, lol. Whatever type you like was definitely out there"

That was the chief complaint we were accustomed to reading and hearing about from guys who complained about Sosua not having talent.  But if what you say is true, then the problem about Sosua lacking talent is not the issue as it once was.   The issue prevailing is a matter of affordability and principle for us guys.

IMO guys are still winning if they can find talent that suits them in the looks department and still be able to negotiate a price that isnt etched in stone like for the so called baddies.

The one thing I bear in mind, a lot of older guys, especially any guys who have mongered a while, they know that talent in terms of performance is just as important as the looks of the talent.    Many old cats standard of beauty measurement may be a lot more flexible than certain cats that cant accept a chick with non perfect attributes.   

Guys need to know what lane they fit in, because we all dont perceive beauty and talent the same.   

As for price?  We all dont roll the same financially.   Men like myself can certainly afford to pay the baddest chick in town $200 for an hour session.   I just wont do it, as a matter of principle to myself.    I have found many average looking but attractive chicks ( to me ) that met my standard of sexual appeal and price.    Regular chicks I dated in the states, and p4p while being abroad.   

Technically, Ive given average chicks more than $200,  the only thing is, it wasnt for an hour.  It was paid over a span of time I was comfortable with.   Same money, different rate of disbursement.

Murano this is the first time in awhile I agree! Honestly well said. Dudes like myself are minority … yes we pay more but we also don’t mess with the average street chica. We prefer a higher tier chica that honestly has become extinct in sosua. The prices seem on the same level as they were in April and I’ll be there soon enough. Honestly if you have a roster prices won’t affect you. Well said Murano and you didn’t kill me with a 5 page essay

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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2024, 11:05:37 PM »
I can pay more but I don't. It's like paying 10 grand for a used car you kniw only worth 5. It's rare to find a sosua chick worth $100. Majority of them notably ain't dimes but they giving out trash a cbj and rushing you. Ain't been to sosua in a few years and unfortunately can't see .myself returning.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2024, 07:26:35 AM »
*sigh*

I was in town recently, and things were definitely quite busy and the scene was jumping over the 4th of July weekend. Chicas outnumbered the dudes in a healthy ratio, and an abundance and variety of talent was out and about. Slim, thin, BBL regular, BBL XL, everything, lol. Whatever type you like was definitely out there, but there was only one problem: the price rates are officially cooked.

I can pretty much confirm that the average monger is going to pay at minimum (if he has himself together and has a little game) no less than 4000 pesos now (about $70, up from $50-$60) for a session, with normal maximums coming in on average at about $100-$120 (6000-7000 pesos) or more. Thinking about TLN? It’s about $200 to start. I’m talking about average to above average talent in the looks department.

The overall rate changes didn’t affect me too much due to my existing personal roster that I’ve built good relationships with, and their friend/referral connections, but new talent wise, I can tell you that most of these chicas are standing on business and standing firm. They would rather stay in the heat or go home empty handed, before they go down on their price, and that’s exactly what they’re doing. Even on slow days. They’re taking the risk of just waiting for the big fish or the thirsty paypig to give them exactly what they want.

All in all, it’s a damn shame, because the dollar is up really nicely against the Dominican peso, but too much indifference and tomfoolery from dudes willing to pay absolutely anything has allowed these chicas to close the currency gap and kill any discount or advantage the average monger would’ve had with a stronger dollar. Smfh.

Thanks for the report. If I read it correctly, you're saying the price floor has gone from 3000-4000 pesos for ST.

I do have a couple questions, however.

1. At what time and where did you collect information on pricing? We all know Pricing is different on midday than the casino at night.

2. Did you collect pricing from Haitians too? I only ask because it would be interesting if the two groups finally got their act together and teamed up to "hold the line" on the chika end.

Yes, the average floor price (at large) has pretty much gone up.

The pricing timeframes include data from midday, evening, to as late as midnight and later at the casino (I was really out and about with a small crew, and I was also gathering intel from their interactions and experiences as well).

We didn’t interact with team Haiti really, lol, so I’m unsure as to how the Haitian chicas are moving price-wise.

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2024, 07:56:07 AM »
@ PB

I grew up in the city and watched how people bragged about how something they bought had cost them a lot of money.  Like in the movie the Mack.   Then they might rattle off, what type of material the shit was made of.  Back then it was leather, suede, silk, mink etc.
Or maybe it was a color TV, 8 track stereo or phone installed in an ElDorado Cadillac. 

Whatever it was they were bragging about, their mentality was, if it cost a lot of money to purchase it, it was valuable and it was considered high quality. 

This is kinda like how you are coming off.  You give high standards of quality simply because you hype up a womans value, and justify paying more to be with them because of that hyped value you give them.   She's just a human being, with fancy clothes on.   Like the Blue Ice Girls in Sosua.   They look plain jane until they get inside the business and put the heels on, and take the hair net off. 

But just like people foolishly over paid for fabrics that were put into garments, furniture and cars......the manufacturing plant gets those same fabrics for pennies in comparison to the finished product. 

The people in the production phase doing the sewing know the low cost of the fabric to get, but they also know the high value people place on those materials.   The finished product is given a price tag of $10,000 for an upholstered couch or car seat.  $4,000 for a designer hand bag or dress.     But at the plant, those materials are hanging around a sweat shop, costing a measly $10 bucks a yard.  And the labor may cost about $200 for about 30 employees.

Now here you come Mr After market Consumer.   You are doing the same thing.   Paying a severe markup to a chick that is giving it up to a guy for free based on feelings.  And she expects you to pay the finished product price in the showroom, after it was produced in the plant ( local community ) under ordinary conditions.   

You are paying for the illusion of quality.  Not actual quality.   You are doing the opposite of what we did back in the day, and still do to this very day.  We believed in bargains.   Paying less, not more.    We would go down to Delancy Street in NYC to buy our clothes and electronics.   We bargained with those businesses until we got the prices we wanted.    Even with us doing that, those businesses still made a profit.

But we knew, that their inventory was way cheaper than the price displayed in the showroom or display window, and cheaper than the price we negotiated down to.  Their job is to make as much profit as they can.  And our goal was not to pay the 1st price we were quoted.    We were willing to walk away in a NY second if we didnt like the price. 

You said guys like you are in the minority.  That may be true.  But that being in the minority is not something to be proud of, like a 1970's Mack bragging about how expensive his clothes are.   Quite the contrary.  Expensive does not mean quality.   Nor does paying more mean one paid for quality.  IMO, too many guys seem to believe paying more to a woman makes them more important.   As if paying more means they have a monoploy on being selective when it comes to human trafficking.  It's delusional rationalization.   

Paying more to the recipient of your funds, makes a guy look foolish with his money.   In that chicks community (manufacturing plant in real life ), the guys she gives it up to are paying no where near what you may pay for the same juice.   They probably get to f--k her raw too, and impregnate her if she allows it.   

If she does let a foreigner guy go in raw, a typical egotistical guy will make up the lie to himself, that him hitting it raw too, is worth the markup he's paying that the local men doesnt have to pay.   That is not sound economics.   That is low self esteem hiding underneath a facade of inflated self worth.   

Ask yourself, why are you paying significantly more for the same juice as the local guy or even the vet or expat that may be f--king the same chick?    Being a foreigner we expect to pay a little more.  But you are going above and beyond what may be required to bed that hyped up quality chick.

In the chicks eyes, you are paying more than just for being a foreigner.   She may very well feel you dont have what it takes to bed her, unless you pay her hyped up price.   That also goes to foreigner guy getting her for less than you.  But the foreigner guy paying more, looks even more foolish.   

If one guy gets her for $4000 pesos, and you pay $150 USD,  what did your extra cost get you?   Nothing, except the self delusion of thinking you are an exclusive selective customer who hires top tier talent.   Meanwhile, nobody else is assumed to be hiring the same chick for less.  LOL

The man who can pay more for the illusion of hyped quality, but refuses to do so, is the smarter consumer.   Your goal seems to be more about satisfying your indulgences and making appearances.  Ego stroking yourself. 

What you are doing has no real value to you, if you dont have subjects to show and tell with, and to compare other men to what you are doing.   Like our member 285 West.   He doesnt enjoy anything, unless he can compare himself to what others are not doing in kind.  It's pure self narcissim.   

Just like the well to do guy with a big fancy house.  Having the big fancy house becomes meaningless over time, unless one can get guests to come over to feed whats lacking in that individual.  The need to be envied and praised by ones peers or those they deem beneath them.    If I would ever start a topic about posting pictures of chicks we f--ked, that would be a clear sign that my soul has been captured by that narcissistic/egotistical bug.     

It's always been that way.   That goes for just about anything, not just elevating one's self-worth from paying women more because of how they look.   
« Last Edit: July 09, 2024, 08:20:44 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2024, 08:20:06 AM »
There are several things I take into consideration.   I think the population of guys is divided.  By age, income, by preferences in women. 

Some guys are into the so called "baddies" and are willing to pay what they ask/expect.   Those cats may be in the minority, but those are the guys those women are looking to do business with.    Those not willing or able to pay those prices, just wont compete.   

You said something that may be considered music to the ears of the average monger.  And that is.   "abundance and variety of talent was out and about. Slim, thin, BBL regular, BBL XL, everything, lol. Whatever type you like was definitely out there"

That was the chief complaint we were accustomed to reading and hearing about from guys who complained about Sosua not having talent.  But if what you say is true, then the problem about Sosua lacking talent is not the issue as it once was.   The issue prevailing is a matter of affordability and principle for us guys.

IMO guys are still winning if they can find talent that suits them in the looks department and still be able to negotiate a price that isnt etched in stone like for the so called baddies.

The one thing I bear in mind, a lot of older guys, especially any guys who have mongered a while, they know that talent in terms of performance is just as important as the looks of the talent.    Many old cats standard of beauty measurement may be a lot more flexible than certain cats that cant accept a chick with non perfect attributes.   

Guys need to know what lane they fit in, because we all dont perceive beauty and talent the same.   

As for price?  We all dont roll the same financially.   Men like myself can certainly afford to pay the baddest chick in town $200 for an hour session.   I just wont do it, as a matter of principle to myself.    I have found many average looking but attractive chicks ( to me ) that met my standard of sexual appeal and price.    Regular chicks I dated in the states, and p4p while being abroad.   

Technically, Ive given average chicks more than $200,  the only thing is, it wasnt for an hour.  It was paid over a span of time I was comfortable with.   Same money, different rate of disbursement.

It’s kind of hard to say that the Sosua talent issue has been completely resolved, because as you know, the talent level and quality tends to ebb & flow, and it can be unpredictable.

Based on what I saw, dudes can definitely find what they like; but in whatever quality lane they might choose, it’s definitely looking like dudes are going to experience some non-negotiable sticker shock. Like I mentioned to someone else, I don’t know where the Haitian chicas are on this.

To your point, some chicas are indeed the exception if the time distribution is on point. I gave one of my semi-regulars (tip included because she was on her A-game all around) a total of $200 USD, but she was with me from early evening to practically the next evening the next day. I was cool with that.

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2024, 08:46:06 AM »
PTC, Imma be brief.

You are absolutely correct that things ebb and flow when it comes to Sosua.  The fact that there are no definitive price tags in the Sosua market and that the talent can vary from one moment to the next is kind of a blessing in disguise.  Guys should learn to appreciate these natural gifts.

Sosua can give one the benefit of being a hunter in a volatile, unpredictable market.   If every nook and cranny of Sosua was clearly marked, P4P in Sosua might be a very boring endeavor.    Like going to a stationary p4p casa a dozen times to get laid.

Thats like going to a car wash with a menu.    Sosua can be challenging in every aspect that you stated.  Timing is an important factor/element in all of this.   The time of week,month or year that you come.   How much time you have in the game.   How old one is in the game.    How much time you have to be in Sosua.   Time in terms one's results by having or not having patience.   

The main benefit guys dont emphasize enough, is that what they can do in Sosua they cannot freely do where they come from.   Sosua offers the illusion of hunting for bargains/talent in a concentrated controlled habitat without it being real hunting.    Sosua is like being in a Kenyan safari habitat with real animals outfitted for the foreigner, without being in a real dangerous jungle.   

Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2024, 09:20:01 AM »
Something to say about price.   I know several guys that consistently dont adhere to the hype about chicks expecting 4000 and up for their time.    What they do is meet chicks they like while out and about.   Exchange Whatsapps.   

Later, the chicks are usually the ones who will follow up with guys they meet.   The guy may ask the chick how much?   The chick will bust out with 4000 pesos, or even a price in USD, like $60 to $100.   And claim that is only for an hour.  The guy will come back and offer the chick 2000 or 2500 pesos, since it's only for an hour. 

I'd say 50% of the time, a chick will come down from her expectations and take the lower deal.   Some will negotiate a little longer.   Like from 4000 to 3500.   Then from 3500 to 3000.   Or $100 down to $60.   Depending on how bad the guy wants the chick, he may settle for 3000 or $60.   But what usually happens, after that one session, it's 50/50 on whether they hire them again.

Those one hour sessions end up not being worth it.  After that happening enough times, a guy begins to be reluctant to giving in to chicks they have never been with, who over price themselves.   

Many chicks are feeling the effects of failed connections out in the field, just because their price is too damn high, and their performances in the bedroom are beginning to be sort of predictable.     A lot of guys are tired of that.   

Tired of agreeing to and paying a premium for the unknown.   Much of the side hustle chicks have come from earning cash from regulars.   The ones they visit throughout the day, week, month and year.   Or when a regular or online date comes to the DR/Sosua.

What's the benefit of paying a premium to a chick with a pretty face and body, if you arent really enjoying the chick the way you want? 
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2024, 09:30:48 AM »
See now here he goes way to the left and writing novels and over analyzing dudes as if he has the golden laws of sosua! Bro I’ve been going to sosua over 15 years and the reason I return every year ain’t for the pussy! It’s like my hood! I’m familiar and honestly I love it! I import 90% of the time and if I f--k local talent trust me she’s one of the best in town that weekend. What dudes like you that complain about price seem to forget! NOTHING STAYS THE SAME PRICE! Name one thing that the same price 10 years ago! Name a service? Cmon you dudes complain too much and try to justify being cheap or broke! If you can’t afford what bitch quotes or don’t like her price move on. I’m not a bargain shopper … if I want it I go get it. Trust me chicas know I’m not f--king any type of chica. I live a lifestyle back home that is good and I’m going live that way no matter where I go. So all paragraphs you write… we ain’t the same we ain’t in the same lane and you’re not smashing what I’m smashing for the prices you’re saying. I don’t care if you live next door to the chica. lol. Now I have you props on your first post but like always you try to call me out or act like you know better. You don’t know shit and those that believe you continue to post negative shit or complain. Do us all a favor STFU or stop going! Prices will keep rising because money rules the world and things and needs cost most every day! Like I said NAME A THING OR SERVICE THAT IS THE SAME PRICE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS BETTER YET 5 YEARS!

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2024, 09:57:54 AM »
See now here he goes way to the left and writing novels and over analyzing dudes as if he has the golden laws of sosua! Bro I’ve been going to sosua over 15 years and the reason I return every year ain’t for the pussy! It’s like my hood! I’m familiar and honestly I love it! I import 90% of the time and if I f--k local talent trust me she’s one of the best in town that weekend. What dudes like you that complain about price seem to forget! NOTHING STAYS THE SAME PRICE! Name one thing that the same price 10 years ago! Name a service? Cmon you dudes complain too much and try to justify being cheap or broke! If you can’t afford what bitch quotes or don’t like her price move on. I’m not a bargain shopper … if I want it I go get it. Trust me chicas know I’m not f--king any type of chica. I live a lifestyle back home that is good and I’m going live that way no matter where I go. So all paragraphs you write… we ain’t the same we ain’t in the same lane and you’re not smashing what I’m smashing for the prices you’re saying. I don’t care if you live next door to the chica. lol. Now I have you props on your first post but like always you try to call me out or act like you know better. You don’t know shit and those that believe you continue to post negative shit or complain. Do us all a favor STFU or stop going! Prices will keep rising because money rules the world and things and needs cost most every day! Like I said NAME A THING OR SERVICE THAT IS THE SAME PRICE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS BETTER YET 5 YEARS!
Forget the bullshit deflections.  Just address the exact content and context that I presented to you. 

Let me break it down for you very simple like.   If you are paying more for a woman, which  another foreigner or local guy can and has paid less to the same women......that makes a guy a fool.  Not some cat that belongs to some Elite club. 

You trying to shame cats just because they freely discuss the economics and practicality of being smart in how they spend their money with women?  Thats kinda lame, dont you think?    In this whole world people complain about prices.   Whats so special about p4p, that complaining about price is supposed to be a negative?   

I told you before, guys can over pay and over value a woman if they choose to do that.  Some choose not to do that.   That doesnt make them any less capable of being able to afford to do so.   

Straw Man alert.   Your argument should not be about prices not being the same.   The issue you need to be paying attention to, is why are you paying more for something that costs much less than what you are paying?    If another foreigner is paying less for the same juice, under the same circumstances of what you hired a chick for,  does that make you smart,  or stupid?   

At the very least, ignorant because you were unaware that you could have paid less than another man.   Cant fault you for being ignorant.   But a guy still earns the foolish title with the chick he's paying more for, than another guy paying less just to be with her. 

If your circumstances of what you hired a chick for is distinctively different than for the guy hiring the same chick for a quick session, then your argument is moot.   Because we would not be talking about the same thing.   You would be making an unnecessary comparision/equivlancy.   An apples and oranges conversation.   

Im talking about, if everything was equally compared with what you are doing with a chick, which is the same circumstances for another guy, and you are paying significantly more than him for the same service,  the result is you looking foolish.   

And the chick you are dealing with knows it.   But out of professional courtesy, she is hired to allow you to believe your own fantasy.   Dont take this personally.   Were just responding to words on our computer screens/phones.   We dont know each other and we both might be completely different IRL, than how we perceive each other on a message board.   
« Last Edit: July 09, 2024, 10:07:06 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2024, 10:04:30 AM »
LETS STOP RIGHT THERE! You’re not f--kING THE SAME GIRLS! Convo over! I told you most chicas I f--k you ain’t seeing on the street and I have years of dealing with them and know dudes aren’t getting it for the low. So stop! Name one chica I posted in the last 20 years on this site that you smashed Or anyone you know! You can’t! Matter fact show me one chica you smashed! You come with these long ass novels like your the expert and the 20 plus years on here never once posted a chica! Show me don’t tell me! You a self proclaimed bullshitter

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2024, 10:21:00 AM »
LETS STOP RIGHT THERE! You’re not f--kING THE SAME GIRLS! Convo over! I told you most chicas I f--k you ain’t seeing on the street and I have years of dealing with them and know dudes aren’t getting it for the low. So stop! Name one chica I posted in the last 20 years on this site that you smashed Or anyone you know! You can’t! Matter fact show me one chica you smashed! You come with these long ass novels like your the expert and the 20 plus years on here never once posted a chica! Show me don’t tell me! You a self proclaimed bullshitter
1st off sir, I may be a senior citizen compared to you.  And may be old enough to be a father in terms of the age and level of wisdom disparity between us.   My time has come and gone in terms of the ego tripping over women, lifestyle, and income. 

It's more important how much you manage and how you keep your resources, than how much you earn, or what you can or are willing to afford to spend on frivilous pursuits.   A retired person living modestly with a great financial portfolio generally is better off financially than many people who work, have a high income and live a lavish lifestyle. 

Im living a chapter of my life that many young whippersnappers need more time to be able to process and sort out where they are trying to go, where they will end up....vs where some men are already. 

The question is, are you a Tortoise or are you the Hare?      You write as if you are the egotistical Hare, and I am the wise Tortoise.   The tortoise has been where you are, and done that, he's not impressed 100% with what the Hare is focused on anymore.....were all waiting for you to get to the finish line, or at least to catch up to where the wise tortoise is at.   

You still may have 10 to 20 years to go to get where you could be, mentally and your level of maturity.   When one matures, they will know it's time to organize and prioritize what is really important in life.   In the meantime, enjoy your journey.   Im not opposed to youthful souls having to learn their lessons at their own pace. 
« Last Edit: July 09, 2024, 10:48:46 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

 







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