Nairobi Kenya Trip

[murano2010]

November 2023.  Im starting to like this destination a little more.  This is my 3rd trip to Nairobi Kenya. 

Checked in to my Airbnb in the Westlands area on a Thursday afternoon. Im in the same building as my other 2 visits, but in a different apt with a different host.   These rentals in this building are affordable.  They range from $37 to $62 a night, depending on the Airbnb host. 

In this entire area Airbnbs are plentiful.   I just happen to like this particular building.    I believe the units in this building are all one BR, with 1 1/2 baths, kitchen ( with appliances and water cooler ), dining counter, dining room, with a washer.  Im paying $45 a night, which includes all taxes. 

Im 3 days ahead of my wingman who is supposed to arrive on the 19th of Nov.

My 1st victim was the chick Nasha from my last trip.  Good juice, but a begging headache.  I got her to come over in a taxi around 9pm.  We had a quick drink at a restaurant nearby.  Then went upstairs.   

As expected and before bed, she started telling me about some event she was planning to go to next evening.  At 1st, I thought she was inviting me to go with her to that event.  But as it turned out, she was telling me about it, angling to get me to give her money.   

Mind you, I never discussed payment with her for coming to spend time with me.  Because she was pumping me up with how much she missed me.  With that I was just going to give her some cash the next morning through M-Pesa ( digital payment system ).   

My last visit in May, I had given her 4000 ksh ( about $23 at the time ) each morning when she was leaving.   She was begging and angling then.  Part of it is her fault, because she was and keeps acting like she is/was in love, and not a freelancer. 

And assumed I was falling for that bullshit.   So when I gave her money, I gave her what Id give a GF who could use some money for food for the day/night.   Not strictly paying for services.

This is the Westlands area, many of the freelance chicks in the clubs or working on dating apps like Tinder, have much higher expectation$ on what they should get from clients.  But I can see knowing how to move, a guy can pay much less by finding talent on his own without those sources.   

That's not to say that every chick on Tinder ( etc ) or up in the clubs are expecting to get paid a lot for their time.   Negotiations is very much a part of the culture here.   So negotiating is expected here in Nairobi with just about anything that doesnt have a fixed price on it.  There are a lot of women in this city.  And it almost seems as if they have a greater need to have access to money even more than the freelancers in the DR.  Which seems to make negotiating with Kenyans much easier.

Also, many of the freelance women here in Nairobi don't seem to have a unionized mindset, like it seems with the chicks in the DR.

So my chick Nasha gives me the details about her social event, but Im not paying it much mind.  We ended up having a good welcome back session.  I got up early.  Didnt care to hit it again.  I was annoyed somewhat because this chick was coughing much of the night after the session.

Then it dawned on me.  She was sick the whole time.  She was hiding it from me.   Just like she did last time.  When she came over with her son.  Both of them were coughing.  Tried to get me to give her extra money, pretending she was going to go to the hospital later that morning.   I gave her 4000 ksh in May when she was leaving, and I gave her 5000 ksh the morning of this visit.   

She brought up the social event again in the morning, asking me if I was going to give her money towards it.  To which I declined, since I had just got there.  Around 7pm later, she brought it up again.  This time I told her that I never said I was giving her money for that.  She had wanted 5000 ksh.   But shit, her social events is not a priority or my responsibility.   It's not for food, rent, or utilities.

Some of these chicks game is so weak and transparent that it's pathetic.  Some of these chicks aint got nothing on many of the DR chicks when it comes to running game. 

Since she was coughing all night, I used that to keep her away from me for a while.  I can always get her to come over anytime I want in case I get the urge.  I stopped taking her calls and texts because they were getting too frequent. 

Including her trick calling me using another number.  Lots of other fish in the sea.    That about covers the 1st few days as far as women are concerned.  The next chapter is about a Tinder chick I met, who travelled 3hrs to come see me, with her spending 3 days with me.   

And me meeting a cute chick with a nice body yesterday at her job.  A brief chat resulted in her suggesting that we exchange numbers.    Cold approaching chicks with regular jobs here is a welcome change, from dealing with chicks always on the hustle.   Just from our brief encounter and followup messages, the lady is already talking about cooking something for me. 

[PoonTangClan]

Appreciate the report. Keep it coming, and don’t forget the pics, sir. 😆👌🏽

[Bat Man]

I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.

Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to)  and collect numbers.

Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.

All previous advice still stands have a great trip.

[murano2010]

I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.

Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to)  and collect numbers.

Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.

All previous advice still stands have a great trip.

Ive been seeing Kikuyu women in action.  Nasha is Kikuyu.  Beverly from Mombasa last May is Kikuyu.   There may be others.

We met 2 chicks at the mall 2 days ago.  And both of them were Kikuyu.   These chicks were selling life insurance.  When they saw us at the outside food court, the cuter one made a beeline towards us.  They werent being friendly because they were interested in us, they were hoping we might be interested in some life insurance.

My buddy worked fast, cracking on the cuter one for her number.  She had the banging body.  Tits and ass.    Both were young and claimed to have no kids.  (They were about 23 to 25.)   I did not get or seek the number from the other girl the 1st day.   But I felt that she was doable. 

That same day, his chick asked if we had left the mall yet.  Their insurance company was sponsoring a bowling event at the mall.  The chick told my buddy about it, and asked if we would like to come.   We had left awhile ago, and wasnt even thinking about coming back to be set up to be fleeced like an ATM.  Were not in the DR but it sure started to feel like it.   

The following day though, my buddy claimed his chick wanted to meet up with him at the mall again.  This time I figured it was so they could get a free meal out of the deal.   I decided to go even though I knew it was a whack idea.   The other chick was supposed to come too.   This time I wanted to see if she looked any better than the 1st day we met in the food court.   

She actually did look better.  As far as I was concerned these chicks had f--ked up.   They were not where they were supposed to be at the time that was agreed to.  I had nothing to do with making any arrangements.  That was all between my buddy and the chick.   Apparently they did not head to the mall until we were at the mall.   That was not the plan.

This is where both of these chicks seemed a little goofy.  And the way his chick was acting, I didnt see him getting any of that juice anytime soon.  I felt that she was  probably going to give him the runaround.   The other chick started dropping hints of needing to get her nails done.  Which was really aimed towards me. 

Im somewhat certain that if I said lets go to my place, she probably would have went.  But I wasnt that interested.  I had met someone much nicer earlier , that I was going to pursue.   So we finished up at the mall with them.   These chicks are going home, and me and my buddy are going to catch a taxi.

The chick that supposedly likes me, mentioned her nails again.  Then when we got outside, she asks "can you give me some cash".   I said "cash?".   I said how much are you talking about, out of curiosity.   I think she said 5G's.   I didnt ask her to repeat it or confirm how much that was.  I just told her, if and when we get together we will see about that.   

I just laughed at the whole situation.  Him coming to the realization that this chick was probably just playing him, and has no intentions of f--king him.  And the other chick thinking that she was entitled to some cash for doing nothing.   The whole point of bringing them up, is that those two chicks were both Kikuyu women. 

Before I got back to my Airbnb, the chick was sending me videos, pics and memes of herself.   Acting like her asking me for cash was no big deal.   Oh my goodness she was pushing hard, trying to find out when we can get together.  This chick would not just call it a night. 

She sent me some more pics later that night.    My buddy had already told his chick he was leaving 3 days from now.   Which was a lie.   So I guess both of them saw that they needed to move fast, in order to get some cash or whatever else they could get.   

[murano2010]

I would agree that Tinder is not necessary, but it sure is interesting seeing how proactive these chicks are in sending dudes LIKES, and occasionally messages.  Last time I checked I had over 2700 likes.   I'd say most of those likes are from all 3 visits combined.   And very little from other destinations that I have been to.   

The exchange rate for the USD to the Kenyan shilling is better than my 1st visit.   It was around 131 Ksh to 1 USD last year.  Now it's 154 ksh to 1 USD.   So ones dollar does go a little further now. 

[murano2010]

A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi.  Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away.  She says she will stay 3 days.  I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down.  I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.

Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good.   Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it.  The sex was good.  She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite.   Gave good head.  Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet.  Very affectionate the whole time.

Total damage 17,100 ksh :   In USD thats $112.   Not including meals together.

1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home.  ( she paid for her own transpo  coming and going )

The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals.  We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once.   None of those meals were expensive.  In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.

[murano2010]

Last week I cracked on my waitress at the Java House restaurant in the mall.   Many of these chicks are open to cold approaches and giving up their numbers.  Even if it doesnt go anywhere, I still enjoy flirting.   

Yesterday, another waitress caught my attention at another restaurant.  She wasnt serving us, but when I was about to leave I struck up a conversation with her.  Then asked her if she had a boyfriend or was married.  She responded that she was happily single.  To which I assumed that she wasnt interested, and wanted to remain that way.

Apparently she wasnt suggesting that at all.  She was actually saying that she was available.  When I terminated the convo at that point , she said but we can exchange numbers.   And thats what we did.

We texted and voice messaged each other the rest of the evening.   So it looks like I might be getting to know this lady.   Cute, chocolate, nice round ass, succulent lips.   She's good to go.   

[Bat Man]

I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.

Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to)  and collect numbers.

Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.

All previous advice still stands have a great trip.

Ive been seeing Kikuyu women in action.  Nasha is Kikuyu.  Beverly from Mombasa last May is Kikuyu.   There may be others.

We met 2 chicks at the mall 2 days ago.  And both of them were Kikuyu.   These chicks were selling life insurance.  When they saw us at the outside food court, the cuter one made a beeline towards us.  They werent being friendly because they were interested in us, they were hoping we might be interested in some life insurance.

My buddy worked fast, cracking on the cuter one for her number.  She had the banging body.  Tits and ass.    Both were young and claimed to have no kids.  (They were about 23 to 25.)   I did not get or seek the number from the other girl the 1st day.   But I felt that she was doable. 

That same day, his chick asked if we had left the mall yet.  Their insurance company was sponsoring a bowling event at the mall.  The chick told my buddy about it, and asked if we would like to come.   We had left awhile ago, and wasnt even thinking about coming back to be set up to be fleeced like an ATM.  Were not in the DR but it sure started to feel like it.   

The following day though, my buddy claimed his chick wanted to meet up with him at the mall again.  This time I figured it was so they could get a free meal out of the deal.   I decided to go even though I knew it was a whack idea.   The other chick was supposed to come too.   This time I wanted to see if she looked any better than the 1st day we met in the food court.   

She actually did look better.  As far as I was concerned these chicks had f--ked up.   They were not where they were supposed to be at the time that was agreed to.  I had nothing to do with making any arrangements.  That was all between my buddy and the chick.   Apparently they did not head to the mall until we were at the mall.   That was not the plan.

This is where both of these chicks seemed a little goofy.  And the way his chick was acting, I didnt see him getting any of that juice anytime soon.  I felt that she was  probably going to give him the runaround.   The other chick started dropping hints of needing to get her nails done.  Which was really aimed towards me. 

Im somewhat certain that if I said lets go to my place, she probably would have went.  But I wasnt that interested.  I had met someone much nicer earlier , that I was going to pursue.   So we finished up at the mall with them.   These chicks are going home, and me and my buddy are going to catch a taxi.

The chick that supposedly likes me, mentioned her nails again.  Then when we got outside, she asks "can you give me some cash".   I said "cash?".   I said how much are you talking about, out of curiosity.   I think she said 5G's.   I didnt ask her to repeat it or confirm how much that was.  I just told her, if and when we get together we will see about that.   

I just laughed at the whole situation.  Him coming to the realization that this chick was probably just playing him, and has no intentions of f--king him.  And the other chick thinking that she was entitled to some cash for doing nothing.   The whole point of bringing them up, is that those two chicks were both Kikuyu women. 

Before I got back to my Airbnb, the chick was sending me videos, pics and memes of herself.   Acting like her asking me for cash was no big deal.   Oh my goodness she was pushing hard, trying to find out when we can get together.  This chick would not just call it a night. 

She sent me some more pics later that night.    My buddy had already told his chick he was leaving 3 days from now.   Which was a lie.   So I guess both of them saw that they needed to move fast, in order to get some cash or whatever else they could get.

Malls  especially the upscale ones is the worst place to meet chicks in Kenya, becaise of two main reasons

#1. That's where all the mzungus too scared to go the the CBD go so it's like the Casino the rich guys go their and try to holla at a cute shopgirl.

#2.  Kenya is super corrupt but generally speaking if theres any chaance that someone could see her she will not accept your number again any Kenya knows whats up when she takes your number so they're super duper discreet in doing so frankly it's not worth it. I think in my two years there I got two numbers and that was because the manager wasn't there and the other time the girl was quitting and even then that was around the beginning of COVID when they really needed the money and I happened to go to that particular mall almost daily.

Absolutely they were trying to get what they could out of you.  That being said if they were independently selling shit like life insurance and they happened to be in the mall because that's where people who could afford Life Insurance were at then maybe they'd f--k but no actual employees of any store is likely to f--k.

You got to go where the average Kenyan goes.  That's the downside of Kenya the Kenyan middle class is way poorer than the average Dominican. Put it to you this way my ex is middle class and she lives in Obama Innercore (yes they named a Neighborhood after him) Just check out the area on Google Maps to see what it looks like.

a Poor area would be Kibera. I promise you 90% of the chicks you get with no matter the tribe will be from someplace like Obama at best.

[Bat Man]

I would agree that Tinder is not necessary, but it sure is interesting seeing how proactive these chicks are in sending dudes LIKES, and occasionally messages.  Last time I checked I had over 2700 likes.   I'd say most of those likes are from all 3 visits combined.   And very little from other destinations that I have been to.   

The exchange rate for the USD to the Kenyan shilling is better than my 1st visit.   It was around 131 Ksh to 1 USD last year.  Now it's 154 ksh to 1 USD.   So ones dollar does go a little further now.

Man you feel like an absolute God in Kenya even more than the much poorer Tanzania. Tanzania is more muslim and socialist which is why they're way poorer despite being bigger and have gold and gas. But TZ folks are more "proud" and don't hop on your jock like Kenyans do. Granted they're still way thristier than the oldest Rat in Sosua but you'd have to go to Nairobi and Dar to see what I mean.

But like I said Kenya is more  capitalist and I don't know if you seen the stark differences between Westlands and Eastleigh. The locals go to Eastleigh Mall the Somalis sell shit way cheaper there I wouldn't even bother to tell you to go over there. I can't really describe the place there's streets and even sidewalks but it's the most oddlly designed place in the world. You'd likely more get hit by a car on the sidewalk than if you walked in the street.

Like you seen the shilling crashed so people who actually work for a living are poorer than your last trip they have whole street families ( actual homeless families)  In Ururu Park there version of Central Park and a good place to go to meet girls as it the Government offices near there.

But f--k all of that I'm supposed to get people interested in Kenya  no way they want to see that You'd be fine staying in Westlands and hitting up Brew Bistro. Telling you about Nairobi West ( which is different that the Westlands) and telling you pussy is probably half the price is like telling someone at the Casino that they could get much cheaper pussy in some campo along the Haitain border. It's true but what short stayer is traveling to the Haitan border just to get cut rate cooch?

[Bat Man]

A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi.  Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away.  She says she will stay 3 days.  I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down.  I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.

Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good.   Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it.  The sex was good.  She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite.   Gave good head.  Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet.  Very affectionate the whole time.

Total damage 17,100 ksh :   In USD thats $112.   Not including meals together.

1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home.  ( she paid for her own transpo  coming and going )

The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals.  We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once.   None of those meals were expensive.  In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.

That couldve went left in the sense that she could've tried to stay for your whole trip.

But then again she was from some  town in the interior so maybe she had to get back.

I could quibble over the prices she quoted for things but inflation is through the roof needless to say hard to get those prices even from a carefully vetted and trusted regular in the Su.

Dudes on the fence about a trip should take heed especially the New York crowd. Kenyan Airlines and Ethiopian and some of the Arab airlines have some great deals if you know how to look.

[Bat Man]

Last week I cracked on my waitress at the Java House restaurant in the mall.   Many of these chicks are open to cold approaches and giving up their numbers.  Even if it doesnt go anywhere, I still enjoy flirting.   

Yesterday, another waitress caught my attention at another restaurant.  She wasnt serving us, but when I was about to leave I struck up a conversation with her.  Then asked her if she had a boyfriend or was married.  She responded that she was happily single.  To which I assumed that she wasnt interested, and wanted to remain that way.

Apparently she wasnt suggesting that at all.  She was actually saying that she was available.  When I terminated the convo at that point , she said but we can exchange numbers.   And thats what we did.

We texted and voice messaged each other the rest of the evening.   So it looks like I might be getting to know this lady.   Cute, chocolate, nice round ass, succulent lips.   She's good to go.

I could be wrong.

I used to live in Java House and Art Cafe again never actually f--ked nothing but again the massive inflation is kicking Kenyans asses.

[Bat Man]

I could be wrong about this too but the funny thing is if you get a massage in an Ëxecutive barber shop" it will be a legitmate massage you won't even get as much as a hand job there. You'd have to go to the ones with girls in the ads and those are mainly the ones around Woodvale Grove convientely located in Westlands.

In fact that's the Pedro Clisante of Nairobi right there everything you need or want is within blocks of there.

[murano2010]

A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi.  Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away.  She says she will stay 3 days.  I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down.  I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.

Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good.   Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it.  The sex was good.  She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite.   Gave good head.  Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet.  Very affectionate the whole time.

Total damage 17,100 ksh :   In USD thats $112.   Not including meals together.

1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home.  ( she paid for her own transpo  coming and going )

The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals.  We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once.   None of those meals were expensive.  In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.

That couldve went left in the sense that she could've tried to stay for your whole trip.

But then again she was from some  town in the interior so maybe she had to get back.

I could quibble over the prices she quoted for things but inflation is through the roof needless to say hard to get those prices even from a carefully vetted and trusted regular in the Su.

Dudes on the fence about a trip should take heed especially the New York crowd. Kenyan Airlines and Ethiopian and some of the Arab airlines have some great deals if you know how to look.

This is one of those instances where one would have to know specific details in how the costs were established.   

1. According to her, the kids had informed her of the cooking gas being finished her 2nd day/night with me.  I asked her how much and she said 1300ksh for a small tank.  She said a large tank was 2500ksh.  She could have easily claimed that she needed 2500ksh, rather than the cost of a small tank.   

I dont know what size tank she uses, or even if the gas was really finished.  But I had no problem paying it because, Id rather pay for an alleged need.   I can always make adjustments later on what I give her, when it's time for her to leave.

2. She uses a young girl to help watch her kids.  According to the chick the girl is only 18 herself.  But her watching the kids is supposedly a normal arrangement.  She claims to pay the girl 500ksh if its a whole day.   3 days is 1500.  I voluntarily added 300 ksh to make it 1800 ksh.   1800ksh is only under $12 USD

3. Her phone plan I volunteered to pay, she didnt ask for it, or expected me to do that.  So thats not on her, thats on me.

4. On Day 3 she had asked me for money to send the kids to buy food.  Where they go, they can probably get a whole meal for cheap.   I asked how much, she said 500 ksh.  I voluntarily gave her 1300 ksh to send home.  Why not? 1300ksh is only $8.50 USD.  That might keep her from asking me for more later. 

5.  The lady owns a little shop selling clothes and accessories, and miscellaneous stuff.  So her being closed for 3 days, I took that into consideration when I gave her the 10000 ksh when she was leaving.  Sunday she is closed anyway, so it was only the 2 days she was not operating in her shop. 

The fact that she was not greedy in her requests, I respected that.   If I would have only paid what she requested, and not volunteered to give her more, or buying her phone plan, what I gave her would have been a little less.  2100ksh less, which is $14 less.   

In the end, me giving her $10000 ksh upon leaving was reasonable at todays exchange rate. $65 USD to take home.  Even if one were to make it an even $180 USD for everything I paid for in 3 days.  I think it was money well spent.   

Any of them chicks up at Brew Bistro could have easily asked for 8k to 25k ksh just for a session.  Lucky if the chick stays overnight and lets a guy hit it again.   And prior to leaving with the chick from Brew Bistro, a guy may have bought the chick drinks or food too.   So the better bargain depends on the dude and the circumstances.   

But in reality, I can handle both scenarios and not be concerned over the cost of each.  Here in the Westlands or just in general, the p4p game or just dealing with some chicks is much easier on the wallet.   

[Bat Man]

You didnt severely overpay. I dont know prices anymore and everything went up.

Yes Brew bistro is were you can definitely raise the bar and pop bottles with the local elite
Get a stuck up kikuyu "slay queen" and youll think youte at the casino on super bowl weekend.

The havana bar across the street and Black Diamond is much cheaper.

But the impact you have and the care you recieve is best from a small town girl.

That being said aviod chicks from the village as much as possible shell likely need money for the whole family and wont know how to handle even 50 bucks

As a said the poverty is on another level.

But youre a vet and youve been there before. This advice for guys planning a trip.
I think @Travel Guy 90 might prefer it over Ghans

[Bat Man]

To guys on the fence about going look at what Murano is saying for 180 bucks he had a girl for 3 days.  Meanwhile in the Su 180 is barely enough for ST for most newbs.