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Author Topic: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?  (Read 6225 times)

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2023, 08:18:00 PM »
I thought the money throwing balling pookie and ray Ray's was keeping ahnvee going with the king of diamonds.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2023, 09:16:19 PM »
What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?

Nothing!!

Another pandemic couldn’t even help, like I’ve been saying since about 2019, the ship has sailed.

The town is boring and lifeless. Classico was a staple, it gave the town life. I knew once Classico was gone, it could do nothing but decline, 4 years later here we are.

And it’ll only get worse.


I real club would bring the town back but the people don’t want that!!
the night life is kaput wahda got left, kings rumbas?bet city lights is a shadow of it self, the 2 casinos at both ends of town, anvhee just about gone, bailees for sale mateos for sale, jolly rogers for sale, mablebues on the beach sold, not much left, last few pud creep cams just fat whales hardend pros, with a few slim petite chicas , but for the most part botom of the barrel chicas, seems like the weekend warriors have waned,  Economey down fall ? hmmmm time will tell with the up comeing high season, unless your an sexpat expat,  and snow birds sosua going to be on the decline,the only good thing if your a vett with trusted repeats on your roster and can hunt for civillians semi pros you should be good to go, decent pussy on a silver platta point and shoot, those days are gone   !RIP Sosua as a hoe central town with night life !!

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2023, 10:59:05 PM »
they made a ton of money while on the pandemic. it'd take a miracle for that place to come back.
binary thinking at its best

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2023, 12:28:03 AM »
When police start running chicas off the block again (and they will) and they need welcoming place to work their craft, Ahnvee will be back. Trash box or not, one thing about guys, is they will go where the hoes are. The way Ahnvee circumvented the no brothel/no pimping law during COVID and had the hoes as hotel guest was pretty genius. One thing we all know for sure is that the Su is changing. Marriott property already on the beach (more chains to come), the beach front renovation, the movie studio, Arajet applying for "Fly Rights" to STI and POP connecting DR to Latin America; the writing is on the wall. The neglect of Ahnvee and sale of Sosua Inn are different responses to the same thing. No more open air meat market for DR.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2023, 12:40:20 PM by TravelYoda »

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2023, 01:55:09 AM »
To answer the topic question.  There isnt anything Ahnvee can do, as long as corrupt politicians insist on getting a percentage of your business.   And constant interference from other entities.  Like the ones that forbid busineses from operating their club/disco on their premises.   David who owned the Sports Complex can attest to that. 

The rest of Ahnvees issues is self inflicted.   Poor construction and design.  Probably cost a grip to renovate dilapadated structures and erect new buildings.  Failed in attempting to offer timeshare packages that they wouldnt be able to maintain.   And that was because they were using the money to be able to continue with construction, cost of maintenance, make payroll, and keep up with supplies etc.

Constantly having thieving, untrained un professional staff onhand did not help.  And allowing that business model of unprofessional conduct to fester. Technical problems  constantly occurring on the property and taking too long to resolve or were never resolved.   Their presence alone was an irritant to the residents that lived in the area.



« Last Edit: September 17, 2023, 02:02:18 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2023, 02:10:16 AM »
they made a ton of money while on the pandemic. it'd take a miracle for that place to come back.
IMO the owner and corrupt entities got their cuts from the business.   I dont believe Ahnvee as a business ever had a major surplus of money on hand.   I believe the business itself was just making enough to get by and appear successful. 
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2023, 08:36:05 AM »
As of now Sosusa like stale bread, nothing going to happen, as far as changes they would have to bulldoze the whole strip down maybe in ten years in the next economoic boom, folks were in a down fall, look how slow the plazas bieng built, there going to be a revolt if the beach bars are closed or bulldozed,,not good,  Infastruture is lacking, poor sewage water electricty, internet were talking about a lousy 5 block area,,,,,,shit down town sosua cold look like the slum niebor hoods like alantic city in the 80s,,,,,as far as the hoes are concerned they will be there,  maybey not in large numbers The anvhee should convert to low cost apartment rentals , geared toward expats and sex pats,,,,,carry on sirs !

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2023, 08:47:10 AM »
Leave the place be in the so called new red zone with Daves sports bar. It's a ghost town there.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2023, 09:17:33 AM »
Dan just came out with a new video about bussiness for sale, plus El presidente closing the haitian border , expect more WU request from your Haitain hoes !!

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2023, 10:05:37 AM »
I liked Bourbon Street a lot. He dreams big. Ahnvee was supposed to become a baller's paradise, just a couple hours flight from Miami. But the dream was bigger than the reality. I mean, an open-air shitter (toilet) right in your sleeping quarters with no separating door or even a curtain? Pardon the pun, but that shit ain't sexy. The in-room pools featuring ice-cold water?  But yet I'm still rooting for the guy and hoping he can make a Sosua comeback.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2023, 11:30:12 AM »
I liked Bourbon Street a lot. He dreams big. Ahnvee was supposed to become a baller's paradise, just a couple hours flight from Miami. But the dream was bigger than the reality. I mean, an open-air shitter (toilet) right in your sleeping quarters with no separating door or even a curtain? Pardon the pun, but that shit ain't sexy. The in-room pools featuring ice-cold water?  But yet I'm still rooting for the guy and hoping he can make a Sosua comeback.
IMO a business is going to have a harder time of being successful long term if the owners are hardly there to supervise the day to day operations of their business.   Examples :  Fat Jesses, Ahnvee, Bourbon Street restaurant downtown, Cheers bar, Cocina de Shenelle, Mile High, The Tree House and others.     

What do these places all have in common?   The owners presence is not part of the day to day operations.  They all tend to rely on locals they hire to manage and supervise the day to day operations.   As a result, when the cat is away, the mice will play.   The local manager is usually not skilled or qualified to run a business efficiently and professionally. 

Especially in such a way to attract business and keep their clientele coming back.   Many locals that wait tables, are very unprofessional.  Have a hard time thinking on their feet, and thinking out of the box.  Easily distracted and confused.   No clue about providing customers the ambiance suitable
for their comfort.   

What have I seen for years?   Businesses running out of supplies, like beverages or food.  Things that should have been prepared for.   Not wait until you run out, and then have to wait for a delivery.   Unwilling to make emergency runs for supplies.  Not giving staff the power to send someone to the store to replenish an out of stock item. 

Workers forgetting something said to them within seconds.  Got to keep reminding them.   Attitude problems because of their shortcomings.   Wait staff un trained in knowing how to be helpful to customers making decisions.   
 
« Last Edit: September 17, 2023, 04:35:10 PM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2023, 01:27:23 PM »
As of now Sosusa like stale bread, nothing going to happen, as far as changes they would have to bulldoze the whole strip down maybe in ten years in the next economoic boom, folks were in a down fall, look how slow the plazas bieng built, there going to be a revolt if the beach bars are closed or bulldozed,,not good,  Infastruture is lacking, poor sewage water electricty, internet were talking about a lousy 5 block area,,,,,,shit down town sosua cold look like the slum niebor hoods like alantic city in the 80s,,,,,as far as the hoes are concerned they will be there,  maybey not in large numbers The anvhee should convert to low cost apartment rentals , geared toward expats and sex pats,,,,,carry on sirs !

Damn you're pretty critical of Sosua despite being so committed to the place.

I get your overall point and like Panama even if it's severely overpirced you can be grandfathered in if you know the true cost of things but damn you're supposed to cheerlead the place.

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2023, 01:34:36 PM »
I liked Bourbon Street a lot. He dreams big. Ahnvee was supposed to become a baller's paradise, just a couple hours flight from Miami. But the dream was bigger than the reality. I mean, an open-air shitter (toilet) right in your sleeping quarters with no separating door or even a curtain? Pardon the pun, but that shit ain't sexy. The in-room pools featuring ice-cold water?  But yet I'm still rooting for the guy and hoping he can make a Sosua comeback.
IMO a business is going to have a harder time of being successful long term if the owners are hardly there to supervise the day to day operations of their business.   Examples :  Fat Jesses, Ahnvee, Bourbon Street restaurant downtown, Cheers bar, Cocina de Shenelle, Mile High, The Tree House and others.     

What do these places all have in common?   The owners presence is not part of the day to day operations.  They all tend to rely on locals they hire to manage and supervise the day to day operations.   As a result, when the cat is away, the mice will play.   The local manager is usually not skilled or qualified to run a business efficiently and professionally. 

Especially in such a way to attract business and keep their clientele coming back.   Many locals that wait tables, are very unprofessional.  A have a hard time thinking on their feet, and thinking out of the box.  Easily distracted and confused.   No clue about providing customers the ambiance suitable
for their comfort.   

What have I seen for years?   Businesses running out of supplies, like beverages or food.  Things that should have been prepared for.   Not wait until you run out, and then have to wait for a delivery.   Unwilling to make emergency runs for supplies.  Not giving staff the power to send someone to the store to replenish an out of stock item. 

Workers forgetting something said to them within seconds.  Got to keep reminding them.   Attitude problems because of their shortcomings.   Wait staff un trained in knowing how to be helpful to customers making decisions.   
 

I know a guy who's running a business now in Sosua telling me that the most important thing is being on the scene during the contruction phase. He reiterated that commuting and even random pop ups is not good enough it's a indication to the locals that you don't care. So equipment will walk if you're not around work will not be done if you're not there.

But if you are there and you seem to care and assist and insist then generally Haitians are hard working and honest people ( this guy thinks that Dominicans are lazy and entitled)

The funny thing is homie is now on another continent and is expecting busineess to work without him being there when he told me that I absolutely need to be there.

But human nature is human.

tugboaboat5393

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2023, 03:24:16 PM »
As of now Sosusa like stale bread, nothing going to happen, as far as changes they would have to bulldoze the whole strip down maybe in ten years in the next economoic boom, folks were in a down fall, look how slow the plazas bieng built, there going to be a revolt if the beach bars are closed or bulldozed,,not good,  Infastruture is lacking, poor sewage water electricty, internet were talking about a lousy 5 block area,,,,,,shit down town sosua cold look like the slum niebor hoods like alantic city in the 80s,,,,,as far as the hoes are concerned they will be there,  maybey not in large numbers The anvhee should convert to low cost apartment rentals , geared toward expats and sex pats,,,,,carry on sirs !

Damn you're pretty critical of Sosua despite being so committed to the place.

I get your overall point and like Panama even if it's severely overpirced you can be grandfathered in if you know the true cost of things but damn you're supposed to cheerlead the place.
I dont want to seem harsh, but those are my observations since comeing since 2013,,, i still go but, not mainly for multiple hoes just a few regulars !

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Re: Question: What Can Ahnvee Do To Make A Comeback?
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2023, 03:59:31 PM »
Using Flip Flop as an example.  Say what you want about Mr Flip Flop.   When he is at his restaurant up in the corner, he pretty much pays attention to the moment by moment operation of how his employees are tending to the customers while working.   His presence and paying attention sort of keeps a lot of f--kery to a minimum.   

It's no doubt in my mind, that if he did not train them, and provide structure, that business would be a complete mess.  Is there room for improvement with the staff?  Hell yes.  Even Mr FF cant  supervise everything from his throne.   Some things that need attention, even he wouldnt know about it unless somebody told him.

For instance.  He may have trained his wait staff to keep coming back to the tables to check on the table.  See if people need anything.  And occasionally return to clean and/or remove finished items.  The problem I see with wait staff.  Is that they can be very mechanical.   They become do as you are told employees instead of employees that know how to adapt to what is needed for a given situation.   

If an employee comes to check on a table.  Yes it's a good idea to come to clean and remove finished or discarded items.  But before you start touching glasses, plates, silver ware and removing the condiments.   They should be verbally communicating with the customer.    "Sir/maam, are you finished with that, may I take that?"   

Dont just assume a person is done just because the person doesnt appear to be touching or finishing something on their plate or in a glass.   They dont even have to study the table on whats going on.  Simply ask, "are you finished?"  "May I take that?"    I took the time one day to explain that to one of the waitresses,  that it's not a good idea to handle items on the table without permission.   She replied by telling me, that she is only doing what her boss told her to do.    And thats what I mean by locals shortcomings in not being able to think on their feet and out of the box.   

Sure your boss wants you to keep the table clean and uncluttered.  But that doesnt mean you should remove things from the table without checking and asking for permission???   Who wants some server picking up their glass which they arent done with just so they can clean the table?   I dont know how many times I had some waiter/tress try to take my plate away with food on it.

With Ahnvee my guess is, they had their own unique problems with staff and management.  Basically, even if Ahnvee or any establishment wasnt being fleeced by politicians or having to palm grease law enforcement, trying to run a business efficiently and successfully will still be difficult.  Especially if the owner is not there to supervise whats going on.

I tried to inform/warn Bourbon Streets American manager, ( when Bourbon Street was on Pedro Clisante ) of some of the shady practices that was going on with a few of the wait staff.   Me and my guys also gave Milka feedback on some of the things they needed to know.   To make things better.   They pretended to care.  Thanked us for the feedback.   But nothing changed.   

When you see shit like that.  You cant help but assume nobody at that establishment really gives a shit.  Not even what their customers think.    When it comes to the DR, foreigners in business tend to adopt the mentality of how locals are.  Especially with other foreigners.   

Nothing is important or a priority until they themselves are under pressure or there is a fire under their butts.   Pleasing a customer is the least of their concerns or priorities when doing business.   They want your money but they dont care about your satisfaction or repeat business.   Thats why I feel it's a risk using locals to manage a foreigners business without good supervision. 
« Last Edit: September 17, 2023, 04:01:02 PM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

 







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