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Title: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2020, 07:40:14 PM
"It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas sitting inside with some white guys yesterday.

Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.

They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.

Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.

Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story."
Title: THE SU IS DEAD‼️
Post by: TheRealDallas on January 10, 2020, 08:28:43 PM
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The Su is Dead B
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 10, 2020, 09:26:50 PM
"It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas sitting inside with some white guys yesterday.

Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.

They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.

Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.

Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story."
Screw giving them 100 b-sud or 5000 pesos,, short time 1500- quck nut and mabey 2000-2500 if there of the chain !!!  5000 24 hours unlimited lechie !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: LuvTheDR on January 10, 2020, 10:26:12 PM
5000 ST, jezus! They're asking that cause some of you dummies are paying it smh lol!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 10, 2020, 10:36:39 PM
5000 ST, jezus! They're asking that cause some of you dummies are paying it smh lol!

I hear you. Typically a little chuckle will dispel that fantasy yet I’m sure there are a few guys that will simply say “okay let’s go”.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Poopshipdestroyer on January 11, 2020, 12:52:15 AM
At least the Policia are making these hoes earn their money-unlike a lot of us hoes.  LOL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on January 11, 2020, 09:29:25 AM
"It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas sitting inside with some white guys yesterday.

Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.

They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.

Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.

Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story."
Screw giving them 100 b-sud or 5000 pesos,, short time 1500- quck nut and mabey 2000-2500 if there of the chain !!!  5000 24 hours unlimited lechie !

+1
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2020, 12:32:30 PM
5000 ST, jezus! They're asking that cause some of you dummies are paying it smh lol!
It's the truth.  I have talked to plenty of newbies and just diehards in Sosua over the years.   And too many actually think the price chicas be asking/demanding is what they should pay or they just dont care.   

In some instances, a lot of cats arent used to negotiating with chicas.  Not used to telling these chicas what they are offering.   Instead, they rather ask, hoping it wont be too much.   Asking the price to some of these chicas is like telling them that you are open to paying whatever they say.   They dont want to miss the opportunity of having a willing over payer, so they aim high.  But what many are willing to accept, is much lower.   

Then there's the mentality of monger who is focused mostly on how fine the chica is,  and supports the notion that a high price is understandable if "you want to f--k an 8-10".   They aint talking about the quality of her services, just the fact that the chick looks good.   So she automatically ( in their minds ) is justified in asking for a high price.   Nothing to do with the quality of service.  Not to mention, enough guys think just being seen with the chick is worth paying what she demands.  Chicas know full well the things we do to satisfy our ego indulgences.  The mongering machine is full of variables.   Were never going to all be on the same page.   So we each have to do what works for ourselves. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 11, 2020, 09:23:39 PM
Sirs it a learning curve,, You have to take the attitude or let them think your not going to jump for a session  ,overpriced,, Also avoide the pushy chicas trying to rush you back to the hotel,, kinda want to vibe and a quick interview,, if there not to your likeing or a pain in the ass onto the next!!!, now if shes lets say has a slight attitude and   you just want to do a quick pump and dump,, counter with a lower price,, knowing its going to be a quick nut and out the door,, she may be a plain jane with a banging body,, your not looking at tne mantle piece when your pokeing the fire,, now if shes off the chain, a small propina,, or invite them over the next day   Lt Todos notches  over night.  Now the more trips you make gain the knowledge,, you can weed though problem chicas and avoid  problems or starfishs albiet not 100 % fool proof,,,Have fun adapt to the changes,Hoes are going to be there !!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2020, 10:36:24 PM
Another tidbit concerning the current status of Sosua or the North Coast in general.   Lately it's been raining a lot.  For a few days straight, day and night.      Last night a buddy who went to Ahnvee said everybody had to seek cover from the rain instead of enjoying the open area thats uncovered.     That must have happened several times,  since it has been raining a lot.

It appears were going into our rainy season.   So be prepared for the possibility of seeing it rain a lot,  or showers breaking out at anytime.   I made it the beach today ( Saturday ) even though it rained several times throughout the morning.   I left the beach around 545pm and got caught in a heavy downpour.   And since I got home, the periodic rain has been going on for hours.    So pack an umbrella or poncho in your check in, you just may need it.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Crave on January 12, 2020, 05:07:19 AM
Another tidbit concerning the current status of Sosua or the North Coast in general.   Lately it's been raining a lot.  For a few days straight, day and night.      Last night a buddy who went to Ahnvee said everybody had to seek cover from the rain instead of enjoying the open area thats uncovered.     That must have happened several times,  since it has been raining a lot.

It appears were going into our rainy season.   So be prepared for the possibility of seeing it rain a lot,  or showers breaking out at anytime.   I made it the beach today ( Saturday ) even though it rained several times throughout the morning.   I left the beach around 545pm and got caught in a heavy downpour.   And since I got home, the periodic rain has been going on for hours.    So pack an umbrella or poncho in your check in, you just may need it.     

Yes... for years there is rain around this time of year. You better get phone numbers. You dont want to be stuck in the rain with no phone numbers. Oh.... I had chics that did not mind coming to see me when its raining or at the first sign of the rain stopping. Then I did not have to rush out and go hunting right after the rain stopped.

Old info..... Vets remember the days when she only got "1" and only "1" presidente for the interview. You did not want to be buying anything else to add to the total cost of you taking a chic. And the cost was 1500 and under. Some guys still rock that way when the find the right one that has not got a taste of the big dollars yet. One dude on this board use to be known as Mr. 1000 pesos, because he lives there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 12, 2020, 06:27:58 PM
Another tidbit concerning the current status of Sosua or the North Coast in general.   Lately it's been raining a lot.  For a few days straight, day and night.      Last night a buddy who went to Ahnvee said everybody had to seek cover from the rain instead of enjoying the open area thats uncovered.     That must have happened several times,  since it has been raining a lot.

It appears were going into our rainy season.   So be prepared for the possibility of seeing it rain a lot,  or showers breaking out at anytime.   I made it the beach today ( Saturday ) even though it rained several times throughout the morning.   I left the beach around 545pm and got caught in a heavy downpour.   And since I got home, the periodic rain has been going on for hours.    So pack an umbrella or poncho in your check in, you just may need it.     
Yes Sir , Spot on  Talk to my favorita from charomicos ,, Quoted Mucho Agua no bunea !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
As of 8pm Sunday Jan 12, 2020.   Same closures as of yesterday.  A little activity must have gone on at Pranitium and Kings ( Rumba location ).   Possible preparations towards future openings?    I see chairs and tables inside of both places.   Otherwise,  both are lifeless as far as business is concerned.    Flip Flop and Kings ( new location by the park ) both had good crowds this afternoon for American football.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2020, 07:54:11 PM
Another tidbit concerning the current status of Sosua or the North Coast in general.   Lately it's been raining a lot.  For a few days straight, day and night.      Last night a buddy who went to Ahnvee said everybody had to seek cover from the rain instead of enjoying the open area thats uncovered.     That must have happened several times,  since it has been raining a lot.

It appears were going into our rainy season.   So be prepared for the possibility of seeing it rain a lot,  or showers breaking out at anytime.   I made it the beach today ( Saturday ) even though it rained several times throughout the morning.   I left the beach around 545pm and got caught in a heavy downpour.   And since I got home, the periodic rain has been going on for hours.    So pack an umbrella or poncho in your check in, you just may need it.     
Yes Sir , Spot on  Talk to my favorita from charomicos ,, Quoted Mucho Agua no bunea !
Yes rained periodically all day.   I expect the same through the night.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DudeLife on January 12, 2020, 11:37:57 PM
Thanks for the intel bozz, but you said "usually" about the new chicas being schooled for $100 or 5k st, it sounds like you're assuming. Did you ask them? No biggie for me but even for rookies I couldnt imagine any chump paying that for st in Sosua.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on January 13, 2020, 02:34:56 AM
Ohh yea... off and on...day and night...the last few days and nights i was dodging the rain, i didnt even go out Saturday night cause i didint even want to deal with it...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2020, 07:30:01 AM
Thanks for the intel bozz, but you said "usually" about the new chicas being schooled for $100 or 5k st, it sounds like you're assuming. Did you ask them? No biggie for me but even for rookies I couldnt imagine any chump paying that for st in Sosua.
The only context you were supposed to assimilate from what I said, is to be prepared for high expectations.    Which chicas or the amount of new chicas who are going to ask for ridiculous amounts is not my emphasis.    Some, many , enough chicas ( old or new it doesnt matter ) have been schooled to aim high, even if they end up accepting less.   No interviews were or are needed to know that.  Forums like this with reports from it's members tells us that.  Years dealing with these muggs tells you they've been schooled by any and everyone in the game.   That includes other chicas, vet chicas, male hustlers, kids out in the street, and us mongers in how we operate around them.   

In fact what Im saying is embedded in their culture.  It doesnt have to be about pussy.   You try to buy something from a vendor.  There is no price tag on the item.  The price paid is whatever you both agree on.  Whats common though, is that the vendor will size you up and quote a high price, even though they will accept less.   It's up to the buyer to know they can negotiate down.   

Do we need to conduct interviews to know what usually or is likely to happen in dealing with other locals selling goods or services?   Of course not.  Your own experience in the game is your teacher.   Especially if the wisdom and experience from others is not enough to convince you.     If one happens to experience an outcome that is more favorable, then just enjoy it.    It's not like the person is going to conduct an interview to know why they got a good price.   Right? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Crave on January 13, 2020, 10:50:48 AM
Thanks for the intel bozz, but you said "usually" about the new chicas being schooled for $100 or 5k st, it sounds like you're assuming. Did you ask them? No biggie for me but even for rookies I couldnt imagine any chump paying that for st in Sosua.
The only context you were supposed to assimilate from what I said, is to be prepared for high expectations.    Which chicas or the amount of new chicas who are going to ask for ridiculous amounts is not my emphasis.    Some, many , enough chicas ( old or new it doesnt matter ) have been schooled to aim high, even if they end up accepting less.   No interviews were or are needed to know that.  Forums like this with reports from it's members tells us that.  Years dealing with these muggs tells you they've been schooled by any and everyone in the game.   That includes other chicas, vet chicas, male hustlers, kids out in the street, and us mongers in how we operate around them.   

In fact what Im saying is embedded in their culture.  It doesnt have to be about pussy.   You try to buy something from a vendor.  There is no price tag on the item.  The price paid is whatever you both agree on.  Whats common though, is that the vendor will size you up and quote a high price, even though they will accept less.   It's up to the buyer to know they can negotiate down.   

Do we need to conduct interviews to know what usually or is likely to happen in dealing with other locals selling goods or services?   Of course not.  Your own experience in the game is your teacher.   Especially if the wisdom and experience from others is not enough to convince you.     If one happens to experience an outcome that is more favorable, then just enjoy it.    It's not like the person is going to conduct an interview to know why they got a good price.   Right?

You sound new to this. Joking.....

To anyone interested:

Many factors come in to play with price, as stated on the board in many places. Even the term, "what are the chicas quoting?" is all case by case.

Some dudes might float the question.  "I heard it should only cost this", when talking to the chicas. She is not going to say, "yep... you caught me trying to hustle you....you can have the rate that you heard about".

You are going to have a learning curb dealing with the chicas to find the best situation for you to get the results you want. Or learn from someone that you can emulate.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 23, 2020, 02:54:28 PM
Kings is open. 

Merengue, Clasico, Pranitium, Bourbon Street, and Blue Ice still closed.  Nothing going on.   As of 1555 hrs Thursday Jan 23, 2020
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 23, 2020, 07:59:07 PM
Quite a few chicas walking about on Dr. Rosen this early evening.   As soon as you turn the corner from PC chicas are on both sides of the street.   Strategically hanging near places they can duck for cover.   You see them from the time you turn the corner all the way up to New Garden.  Kinda spread out. 

Hanging by the small liquor store is another post up area.   Chicas know potential clients are staying in the hotels nearby.   So it makes sense that they are in the area looking for work.   There are other areas chicas are posting up.  Like near Banco Progresso and towards Europa.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Borrachososua on January 23, 2020, 08:18:25 PM
Good intel my man, keep them coming
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 27, 2020, 06:37:48 PM
As many of you may know,  a curfew has been in place country wide in the DR.   It started off during the hours of 8PM until 6AM.   As of Friday March 27, the curfew hours have been changed to 5PM until 6AM.   So thats less time now to do whatever you need to do during the day.   

As of now, it's almost easy to report whats open in Sosua than whats closed.  Even though a restaurant can offer take out or delivery only, many restaurants are completely closed.   Most hotels either have 1 to 5 guests, or they are empty.  Some tourists have elected to ride this crisis out completely,  while others left the moment opportunities for flights leaving the DR were available. 

The supermarkets have been great at being open, but even now they have reduced their hours of operation.   Have to wear masks or you cant get in.   The big Playero has been great in terms of restocking their shelves and pure luck of being able to get in and get out without long lines.   Supa Pola on the other hand is a major disappointment in terms of restocking their shelves and keeping up with the demand for food and household items.

The car repair/tire shop on the main road near the Metro bus, has been allowed to be open, thank goodness in case anyone needs repairs or tire service.   No or minimal publico taxis are running.   Sosua has been swarmed with motos coming from everywhere to try to hustle.   They arent the usual motos we see in town.   There is no Metro or Caribe Tours,  any bus service running, nor is the Metro subway in SD running.

The beach is dead, except for folks walking for exercise,  driving their cars, golf carts or motos early morning.   In essence, there is almost no place to go to congregate or to socialize.  Right now, it's about using your time to concentrate on survival until authorities feel it's safe to make moves.

As it stands now,  I do not see any major restrictions being lifted anytime soon.  Maybe the curfew hours may be reduced, or rescinded?    But that depends on how the locals behave.   Aside from the curfew, I see the DR is sort of following whatever protocols is going on in the rest of the world.  That means,  no flight bans lifted here unless bans are lifted elsewhere.    No businesses resuming unless businesses around the world initiate it 1st.  No allowing foreigners entry, unless other countries initiate it 1st. 

The banks have limited hours of operation.  The ATM machines have been available, and not restricting withdrawal amounts, YET.   I read that efforts will be made to get food to the needy throughout the country.   For the time being people will not need to worry about paying for utilities or rent.   They can just concentrate on eating every day.   

Although these are unusual times, with the right attitude many people should be able to get through this.   This will definitely be a challenge for those who are very unfortunate to not be able to secure enough food.   I will say this,  WU offices around the DR are full of people in there to receive more than they are sending.   Thats a good sign.  Or bad, depending on how you look at it.   For me, Im taking my time to keep myself busy getting small projects done.    Streaming movies, safely socializing with friends here, and contacting friends and family back in the states. 

If anyone has any idea of coming to the DR to have a good time anytime soon,  make sure the DR is back to some sort of normalcy or you have some type of plan in place.    Otherwise you will be wasting your time and money.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 27, 2020, 06:52:33 PM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 27, 2020, 07:11:19 PM
As many of you may know,  a curfew has been in place country wide in the DR.   It started off during the hours of 8PM until 6AM.   As of Friday March 27, the curfew hours have been changed to 5PM until 6AM.   So thats less time now to do whatever you need to do during the day.   

As of now, it's almost easy to report whats open in Sosua than whats closed.  Even though a restaurant can offer take out or delivery only, many restaurants are completely closed.   Most hotels either have 1 to 5 guests, or they are empty.  Some tourists have elected to ride this crisis out completely,  while others left the moment opportunities for flights leaving the DR were available. 

The surpermarkets have been great at being open, but even now they have reduced their hours of operation.   Have to wear masks or you cant get in.   The big Playero has been great in terms of restocking their shelves and pure luck of being able to get in and get out without long lines.   Supa Pola on the other hand is a major disappointment in terms of restocking their shelves and keeping up with the demand for food and household items.

The car repair/tire shop on the main road near the Metro bus, has been allowed to be open, thank goodness in case anyone needs repairs or tire service.   No or minimal publico taxis are running.   Sosua has been swarmed with motos coming from everywhere to try to hustle.   They arent the usual motos we see in town.   There is no Metro or Caribe Tours,  any bus service running, nor is the Metro subway in SD running.

The beach is dead, except for folks walking for exercise,  driving their cars, golf carts or motos early morning.   In essence, there is almost no place to go to congregate or to socialize.  Right now, it's about using your time to concentrate on survival until authorities feel it's safe to make moves.

As it stands now,  I do not see any major restrictions being lifted anytime soon.  Maybe the curfew hours may be reduced, or rescinded?    But that depends on how the locals behave.   Aside from the curfew, I see the DR is sort of following whatever protocols is going on in the rest of the world.  That means,  no flight bans lifted here unless bans are lifted elsewhere.    No businesses resuming unless businesses around the world initiate it 1st.  No allowing foreigners entry, unless other countries initiate it 1st. 

The banks have limited hours of operation.  The ATM machines have been available, and not restricting withdrawal amounts, YET.   I read that efforts will be made to get food to the needy throughout the country.   For the time being people will not need to worry about paying for utilities or rent.   They can just concentrate on eating every day.   

Although these are unusual times, with the right attitude many people should be able to get through this.   This will definitely be a challenge for those who are very unfortunate to not be able to secure enough food.   I will say this,  WU offices around the DR are full of people in there to receive more than they are sending.   Thats a good sign.  Or bad, depending on how you look at it.   For me, Im taking my time to keep myself busy getting small projects done.    Streaming movies, safely socializing with friends here, and contacting friends and family back in the states. 

If anyone has any idea of coming to the DR to have a good time anytime soon,  make sure the DR is back to some sort of normalcy or you have some type of plan in place.    Otherwise you will be wasting your time and money.     
My repeat chicas says some places closeing at 3 pm,,  take that with a grain of salt
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 27, 2020, 07:26:50 PM
Here in Sosua it's whatever they choose.   Banks I think close at 12:30PM.   Flip Flop closes at 4 to allow time for his employees to get home.   He may decide it isnt worth staying open?   The super markets and farmacias may close at 3PM now.  Maybe WU office is closed at 3?   Not much else is open or would be open.   With a 5pm deadline, people need time to get off the street.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on March 27, 2020, 08:00:22 PM
Good info Murano????????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Borrachososua on March 27, 2020, 09:00:39 PM
Igual, bueno informacion amigo
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JayMillz on March 27, 2020, 10:08:04 PM
As many of you may know,  a curfew has been in place country wide in the DR.   It started off during the hours of 8PM until 6AM.   As of Friday March 27, the curfew hours have been changed to 5PM until 6AM.   So thats less time now to do whatever you need to do during the day.     

DR is approaching 600 cases so I wouldn't be surprised if they go to a full quarantine if the numbers continue to rise.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: j.smooth9 on March 27, 2020, 10:11:03 PM
Do they have enough ventilators?

I was praying it wasnt going to spread through a country with hotter climate like DR. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: myjohnson69 on March 27, 2020, 10:16:06 PM
Well that satisfied my curiosity.  I do not have any plans to travel, but I wanted to know.  I am finishing my third week with the full family.  We went on vacation together,  and came home straight to lock down.  I keep looking at flight prices for mid May.   I may be on the first normal flight down if shit clears by the middle of May.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blklouky on March 27, 2020, 10:46:02 PM
Until this crap gets contained in the USA, I don't see any travel for a couple months. I am thinking June or July.   I don't think the DR is going to be safe if this crap lasts for a month.  Getting rob by a tigre in flip flops is no bueno.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on March 27, 2020, 10:49:04 PM
Do they have enough ventilators?

I was praying it wasnt going to spread through a country with hotter climate like DR.

500 and they asked for another 600

If this takes off there anyone that becomes critical doesn't stand much of a chance I am afraid.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on March 27, 2020, 11:04:12 PM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on March 27, 2020, 11:19:58 PM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.

Most of those bitches don’t care about you enough to risk their safety. Never forget that you’re just a convenience to them. If something comes along that offers them more convenience they’re going to take it. Which is pretty much what you would do to them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on March 27, 2020, 11:52:00 PM
Not coming to f--k you and not even bothering to say hola are two completely different things.

Secondly I dont sport f--k. I have 4 trusted repeats I treat as friends. Treat a woman like a ho and she will treat you like a trick. Treat them like a woman And she might just treat you like a preferred f--k buddy. Just saying.

That fact that some dudes cant even have a conversation with these girls when they have LITERALLY NOTHING else to do at the moment tells me volumes about how they treat people.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bospat15 on March 28, 2020, 01:23:16 AM
Do they have enough ventilators?

I was praying it wasnt going to spread through a country with hotter climate like DR.

500 and they asked for another 600

If this takes off there anyone that becomes critical doesn't stand much of a chance I am afraid.

I believe China is shipping more ventilators along with  other equipment and gear to the DR and some of it likely has arrived already arrived.

I am not sure of the efficiency but folks I know working in the hospitals are reporting that they have plenty of test capacity and those that show symptoms and need testing are getting tested. That is at least in the major cities. Not clear what's happening in the Campo but would guess social distancing is not an issue in the Campo.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on March 28, 2020, 02:04:41 AM
Do they have enough ventilators?

I was praying it wasnt going to spread through a country with hotter climate like DR.

500 and they asked for another 600

If this takes off there anyone that becomes critical doesn't stand much of a chance I am afraid.

I believe China is shipping more ventilators along with  other equipment and gear to the DR and some of it likely has arrived already arrived.

I am not sure of the efficiency but folks I know working in the hospitals are reporting that they have plenty of test capacity and those that show symptoms and need testing are getting tested. That is at least in the major cities. Not clear what's happening in the Campo but would guess social distancing is not an issue in the Campo.

Hope so they just might need them

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/03/25/the-country-conducts-300-covid-19-tests-daily-has-500-ventilators/
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 28, 2020, 04:46:34 AM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
    Sirs Its a a f--king lock down ,!dont go out .dont past go,GTFOH,, these Chicas that are there are in curfew from- 5pm-to 0800 hours,They could care less about you Unless your sending WU,   Yesterdays post By Mr T sums it up  ITs A f--king Ghost Town,, the shots of the road to sosua beach Dead  Sosua looks like Cheynnoble , Last one out turn out the Lights and nik the light bulb , all empty,,     Sirs  this may be time To Think of  Saveing you Ass if this shit gets real bad!!!!  Ok if your sad and blue  You can always send some thing to your favorita   Gee she may send you some clam shots or culo shots,, Sirs Weather the Storm !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dothedamthing on March 28, 2020, 06:01:43 AM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
    Sirs Its a a f--king lock down ,!dont go out .dont past go,GTFOH,, these Chicas that are there are in curfew from- 5pm-to 0800 hours,They could care less about you Unless your sending WU,   Yesterdays post By Mr T sums it up  ITs A f--king Ghost Town,, the shots of the road to sosua beach Dead  Sosua looks like Cheynnoble , Last one out turn out the Lights and nik the light bulb , all empty,,     Sirs  this may be time To Think of  Saveing you Ass if this shit gets real bad!!!!  Ok if your sad and blue  You can always send some thing to your favorita   Gee she may send you some clam shots or culo shots,, Sirs Weather the Storm !

One reason chicas may not be contacting you is lack of internet. So many of them rely on free Wifi and shared connections at home. With them out of work the internet is prabably one of the first things to go.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 28, 2020, 06:28:12 AM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed. Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
I didnt say my regulars arent talking to me.   I said my regulars dont keep in touch.  Distinct difference.  Which means they arent blowing up my phone trying to come over,  nor are they begging me for money.  Which they never do anyway.   Around the time the lock down took place I spoke to each one of them through text.   After that,  everybody is just doing their own thing.   Them not keeping in touch, and me not keeping in touch,  is not personal, it's business.  Business between us is closed for now.  Got it?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 28, 2020, 06:41:55 AM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
    Sirs Its a a f--king lock down ,!dont go out .dont past go,GTFOH,, these Chicas that are there are in curfew from- 5pm-to 0800 hours,They could care less about you Unless your sending WU,   Yesterdays post By Mr T sums it up  ITs A f--king Ghost Town,, the shots of the road to sosua beach Dead  Sosua looks like Cheynnoble , Last one out turn out the Lights and nik the light bulb , all empty,,     Sirs  this may be time To Think of  Saveing you Ass if this shit gets real bad!!!!  Ok if your sad and blue  You can always send some thing to your favorita   Gee she may send you some clam shots or culo shots,, Sirs Weather the Storm !

One reason chicas may not be contacting you is lack of internet. So many of them rely on free Wifi and shared connections at home. With them out of work the internet is prabably one of the first things to go.
True generally speaking.  But not necessarily the case with my regulars.   They all have wifi or access somewhere.  If Im not mistaken,  I believe the local carriers have offered wifi gratis during this crisis so people can call for help if needed.   The truth is, a lot of chicks are scared.  Transportation has come to a grinding halt.  Hard to get around.  And Im not going out of my way to go pick up anybody and have to drop them off too.   The curfew is a bummer as well.  Chicks that used to come over at 9 or 10 at night, cant leave until morning.  With a 5pm curfew, it makes it even harder to schedule hookups.

I have an ex regular from Santo Domingo who texts me almost every day, even though she comes to Sosua every blue moon.   The last time I saw her was twice.  Once in Santo Domingo before going to Colombia ( Jan 28 ) , and once more in Santo Domingo when I came back from Colombia on Independence day ( Feb 27th ).    She still texts me and sends voice messages daily, even though I am in Sosua. 

To me she doesnt count as a regular because she doesnt come to Sosua enough, and I dont go to SD enough to hook up with her.   But if I were in SD right now, she would definitely come to my hotel if she could get there.   But then who is to say any hotel would be taking on new guests?   Or could she even find a taxi?   It's not a good time for making hook ups right now.       

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 28, 2020, 07:07:43 AM
Not coming to f--k you and not even bothering to say hola are two completely different things.

Secondly I dont sport f--k. I have 4 trusted repeats I treat as friends. Treat a woman like a ho and she will treat you like a trick. Treat them like a woman And she might just treat you like a preferred f--k buddy. Just saying.

That fact that some dudes cant even have a conversation with these girls when they have LITERALLY NOTHING else to do at the moment tells me volumes about how they treat people.
Also FYI, I have chica friends that do stay in touch.  Chicks that were regulars years ago.  One a 43 yr old that lives in Santiago ( that wants to see me around my birthday ) and another about 26 yrs old that I believe still lives in San Juan that I found out recently had a stroke last December and is recovering.   The fact that some dudes try to form an unsubstantiated opinion of how chicas spend their time, or of individuals online with very limited information, speaks volumes about how ignorant they are.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 28, 2020, 07:19:30 AM
Until this crap gets contained in the USA, I don't see any travel for a couple months. I am thinking June or July.   I don't think the DR is going to be safe if this crap lasts for a month.  Getting rob by a tigre in flip flops is no bueno.
Travel is very important to me as well.   I would at least like to see the ban lifted on businesses and local transportation once it is deemed safe to do so.   Many people cant even get to work because they cannot use public transportation.   There are certain businesses in Puerto Plata province ( North Coast region ) right now, that if they could open today,  it would bring back life to the economy even before tourists come back.    Plenty of expats and tourists throughout the region ready to spend money.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: j.smooth9 on March 28, 2020, 07:23:51 AM
Not coming to f--k you and not even bothering to say hola are two completely different things.

Secondly I dont sport f--k. I have 4 trusted repeats I treat as friends. Treat a woman like a ho and she will treat you like a trick. Treat them like a woman And she might just treat you like a preferred f--k buddy. Just saying.

That fact that some dudes cant even have a conversation with these girls when they have LITERALLY NOTHING else to do at the moment tells me volumes about how they treat people.
Also FYI, I have chica friends that do stay in touch.  Chicks that were regulars years ago.  One a 43 yr old that lives in Santiago ( that wants to see me around my birthday ) and another about 26 yrs old that I believe still lives in San Juan that I found out recently had a stroke last December and is recovering.   The fact that some dudes try to form an unsubstantiated opinion of how chicas spend their time, or of individuals online with very limited information, speaks volumes about how ignorant they are.   

i might know the second one if her name start with a c
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 28, 2020, 07:36:12 AM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
    Sirs Its a a f--king lock down ,!dont go out .dont past go,GTFOH,, these Chicas that are there are in curfew from- 5pm-to 0800 hours,They could care less about you Unless your sending WU,   Yesterdays post By Mr T sums it up  ITs A f--king Ghost Town,, the shots of the road to sosua beach Dead  Sosua looks like Cheynnoble , Last one out turn out the Lights and nik the light bulb , all empty,,     Sirs  this may be time To Think of  Saveing you Ass if this shit gets real bad!!!!  Ok if your sad and blue  You can always send some thing to your favorita   Gee she may send you some clam shots or culo shots,, Sirs Weather the Storm !
Yes, some cats cant seem to understand that.   They think dudes are supposed to operate like them.  Have some sort of bond or relationship with a chick ( beyond p4p ) just because they are regulars.   They need to understand, having regulars doesnt necessarily mean having a relationship or personal bond.  It could simply mean business with an associate that provides satisfactory service. 

Moreover, enough mongers are not really into these women on a personal level, just as much as chicas arent into their clients on a personal level.   It's understood that it is business, not necessarily personal.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 28, 2020, 07:42:26 AM
Not coming to f--k you and not even bothering to say hola are two completely different things.

Secondly I dont sport f--k. I have 4 trusted repeats I treat as friends. Treat a woman like a ho and she will treat you like a trick. Treat them like a woman And she might just treat you like a preferred f--k buddy. Just saying.

That fact that some dudes cant even have a conversation with these girls when they have LITERALLY NOTHING else to do at the moment tells me volumes about how they treat people.
Also FYI, I have chica friends that do stay in touch.  Chicks that were regulars years ago.  One a 43 yr old that lives in Santiago ( that wants to see me around my birthday ) and another about 26 yrs old that I believe still lives in San Juan that I found out recently had a stroke last December and is recovering.   The fact that some dudes try to form an unsubstantiated opinion of how chicas spend their time, or of individuals online with very limited information, speaks volumes about how ignorant they are.   

i might know the second one if her name start with a c
You ought to.   Shes been in the game awhile.  Gained a ton of weight, although she has a very pretty face.   I was not surprised hearing she had health issues.   BTW I think she is older than 26.  Might be closer to 28 or 29 by now.   Met her around 2013.  I think she told me she was 21 then.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 28, 2020, 09:10:16 AM
Once in awhile you get too deep no pun intended  one they make the baby request run for the hills.  Funny been dealing with one chica since 2014.  When she first got in the game at 18. After there first baby not mine fast forward to 2019 they pack on the pounds.   Your nice slim chicas turns into aunt Jemima   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: j.smooth9 on March 28, 2020, 06:04:29 PM
Once in awhile you get too deep no pun intended  one they make the baby request run for the hills.  Funny been dealing with one chica since 2014.  When she first got in the game at 18. After there first baby not mine fast forward to 2019 they pack on the pounds.   Your nice slim chicas turns into aunt Jemima

Dominican chicks can have a hard time keeping off weight alot probably grew up without 3 square means and malnourished. When you then get money is hard keeping off the weight. Oh well then they can't charge you too much then lol.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 28, 2020, 06:22:53 PM
Chicas are scarce in Sosua.  Most you see walking around, or maybe on a moto look like trouble.   Some look down right nasty.  Social media is likely dead to a certain degree.  Many chicas are scared.  Dont want to be away from their families.  If they can secure WU, then that will have to do for now.   

So dont think for a minute that there are all of these sexy chicas in Sosua offering discounts.  There are hardly any decent chicas around to hire.   My regulars dont even keep in touch.  As far as they are concerned,  traveling business is closed.  Maybe they are servicing local men right where they live.   But they arent coming into Sosua.    The raggedy chicks are here though.    Got one chick walking around with a filthy mask and nasty ass gloves on, trying to look like she's ready for work?  GTFOOH.   

Dont bank on chicks using social media to come to Sosua unless there is some sort of normalcy and everything has resumed like it was.   Your regulars if you have any,  may come see you,  but chicks that never been with you, that might be a stretch for a good while.   Of course desperate times calls for desperate measures.

I find it very interesting that your regulars arent even talking to you.
    Sirs Its a a f--king lock down ,!dont go out .dont past go,GTFOH,, these Chicas that are there are in curfew from- 5pm-to 0800 hours,They could care less about you Unless your sending WU,   Yesterdays post By Mr T sums it up  ITs A f--king Ghost Town,, the shots of the road to sosua beach Dead  Sosua looks like Cheynnoble , Last one out turn out the Lights and nik the light bulb , all empty,,     Sirs  this may be time To Think of  Saveing you Ass if this shit gets real bad!!!!  Ok if your sad and blue  You can always send some thing to your favorita   Gee she may send you some clam shots or culo shots,, Sirs Weather the Storm !
Yes, some cats cant seem to understand that.   They think dudes are supposed to operate like them.  Have some sort of bond or relationship with a chick ( beyond p4p ) just because they are regulars.   They need to understand, having regulars doesnt necessarily mean having a relationship or personal bond.  It could simply mean business with an associate that provides satisfactory service. 

Moreover, enough mongers are not really into these women on a personal level, just as much as chicas arent into their clients on a personal level.   It's understood that it is business, not necessarily personal.     
Yes its like renting your favorite car  you get a nice ride ,after your done reurn to the rental agency for the next customer your sure not going to buy a set of tires for it,,,The only way your going to get personal with them, not recomend is if your down there a few months and she staying with you full time or you make the plunge and stay in there casa.Gee if you run low on funds you can stay home and watch the bambino,, she could go out make a fee pesos  , buy some beer for you . gee  you could play  play donimos with some locals  mabey her novio too !!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 03, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
Oh well, not surprised.  In Dominican Today, read that the DR govt extended the curfew an additional 15 days, from today April 3rd.   These time frame increments have been the norm world wide, to keep people in check.  They might as well say until further notice instead of bullshitting the public.   But thats how govt systems and the media work.    Flight bans lifted?   Forget about any flight ban being lifted any time soon.   Especially since everywhere else in the world they are tightening up their borders and interiors.

In the province of Duarte is the city/town San Francisco De Marcoris.   My understanding is,  they are contemplating or already put the entire city on quarantine until further notice.    All Non essential movement coming in or leaving is prohibited.   I believe they have the highest amount of deaths recorded thus far through out the DR.   

FYI, The figures for the DR are as follows.   1488 cases.  68 deaths.  I think there are 16 reported recoveries. 



https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2020/04/03/dominican-government-extends-social-distancing-for-15-days-plus/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2020/04/03/dominican-government-extends-social-distancing-for-15-days-plus/)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 03, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
US citizens are still being urged to make arrangements to leave the DR and return to the US.   They are trying to say soon flights wont be available to leave the DR.    An expat buddy of mine had a return flight for April 14th.   He got online and checked with American Airlines to find out that his return flight was cancelled.   No notification from the airline.

He talked to a rep on the phone and got a flight to leave the DR on May 7.   Good for him.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 04, 2020, 06:26:45 AM
Man, the DR aint playing when they confiscate a vehicle.   And to have to wait until the curfew ends in order to get your vehicle back?   Who knows when that will be, especially if they keep extending the curfew?   


Santo Domingo.- Vehicles held during the first phase of the curfew will remain in detention centers of the General Directorate of Security, Traffic, and Land Transport (Digesett).

This was reported by the director of the agency, General Ernesto Rodríguez García, specifying that the vehicles whose drivers were caught walking during the curfew period without justification, will be delivered when the measure ends, which was extended yesterday for 15 days through decree 142-20.

According to Digesett statistics, 2,814 vehicles have been detained during the operations that began on March 20, the vast majority of these motorcycles.

For the removal of their vehicles, the owners must pay the inspection that was done when they were detained and bring it accompanied by a copy of the registration, driver’s license, identity card, and vehicle insurance.

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/04/03/vehicles-will-be-held-until-the-curfew-ends/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/04/03/vehicles-will-be-held-until-the-curfew-ends/)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on April 04, 2020, 11:52:44 AM
I saw videos of police snatching dudes off their bikes and another cop ride on that bike when you out past curfew!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 06, 2020, 07:13:05 AM
Me and a buddy wanted to go to Pricesmart in Santiago ,  but found out 2 days ago we cant leave one province to go to another, unless you have just cause.   Like going home, or you are an essential entity authorized passage.   

It wasnt a good idea to begin with, because Santiago is very far from Sosua.   If you had a breakdown or an accident along the way, there is no telling how bad things could get.   Bad dealing with locals, hard to get help/road services, stranded, shit stolen from the vehicle if you have to leave it etc.   

Meanwhile Dominican Today is reporting 1745 cases and 82 deaths.  17 recoveries.   Waiting to see the chart that breaks down the stats by province.   Last I checked, Puerto Plata province has no deaths, but at least 30 cases.   

Edit :   New figures as of 1050 am April 6, 2020    Damn 1828 Cases and 86 deaths. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: j.smooth9 on April 06, 2020, 07:14:33 AM
Me and a buddy wanted to go to Pricesmart in Santiago ,  but found out 2 days ago we cant leave one province to go to another, unless you have just cause.   Like going home, or you are an essential entity authorized passage.   

It wasnt a good idea to begin with, because Santiago is very far from Sosua.   If you had a breakdown or an accident along the way, there is no telling how bad things could get.   Bad dealing with locals, hard to get help/road services, stranded, shit stolen from the vehicle if you have to leave it etc.   

Meanwhile Dominican Today is reporting 1745 cases and 82 deaths.  17 recoveries.   Waiting to see the chart that breaks down the stats by province.   Last I checked, Puerto Plata province has no deaths, but at least 30 cases.   

Screenshot and print a sample flight confirmation for the policia !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 06, 2020, 07:27:13 AM
Me and a buddy wanted to go to Pricesmart in Santiago ,  but found out 2 days ago we cant leave one province to go to another, unless you have just cause.   Like going home, or you are an essential entity authorized passage.   

It wasnt a good idea to begin with, because Santiago is very far from Sosua.   If you had a breakdown or an accident along the way, there is no telling how bad things could get.   Bad dealing with locals, hard to get help/road services, stranded, shit stolen from the vehicle if you have to leave it etc.   

Meanwhile Dominican Today is reporting 1745 cases and 82 deaths.  17 recoveries.   Waiting to see the chart that breaks down the stats by province.   Last I checked, Puerto Plata province has no deaths, but at least 30 cases.   

Screenshot and print a sample flight confirmation for the policia !
I'd do that if it was absolutely necessary that I needed to get through for something very important.   Otherwise it's not worth it.   It would be my luck,  the checkpoint recognizes our vehicle when we return.   I'm not taking my chances trying to go back an alternate route just to get back home.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 06, 2020, 08:04:31 AM
So how is Sosua looking as far as chicas?   Slowly but surely I'm seeing more local chicas during the day.   Not any fine specimens.  Just chicas with 3 holes, FWIW.   Some down right ugly and nasty looking.    Others that look doable, but not worth the risk dealing with just to get laid.   

Many of these chicas are getting to Sosua from small towns within the area.  From Montellano to Sabaneta and everything in between.   Some are staying in the usual raggedy rooming houses right in Sosua, others are coming from Cabarete and Charamicos.   A handful are being transported by motoconcho.  Freelance motos and/or their chulos/boyfriends.   Some chicks are driving pasolas all over, making rounds, and transporting other chicas.

I have got requests from chicas I used to get with every now and then, that stay nearby, but not really interested.   My regulars and I are still closed for business.   Even some of my other buddies, arent that pressed for hooking up with random chicas these days.   I guess were all taking this thing seriously or our getting laid is low on the priority list.   A couple of my neighbors who happen to be older white guys have Haitian chicks dropping by from time to time.    Those chicks sometimes come with their child(ren). 

What do I miss?   I miss my beach time.   I still can walk the beach in the mornings, but it's not the same as being able to hang out at your favorite places to eat, socialize and girl watch.   I miss the 8PM curfew that was initially implemented.   When curfew was shortened to start at 5PM that gave us less time to enjoy being away from home.   

Of course now, I'm preparing my meals and eating at home more.   The only places I see open for take out is Flip Flop, Calla Pizza, Schlemmers ( German ) restaurant, another one where the cigar place is on Pedro Clisante and Margot.   At Margot, me and my buddy actually sat down at a table in the courtyard of Condos Margarita and ate breakfast with service from the waitress.   That was different.   But I kinda got used to making my own breakfast , lunch and dinner at home.

Myself and a couple of guys occasionally meet up at The Tree House 2 inside of Las Palmeras to socialize a little.   We get the music going, or watch a movie.  No employees are there to cook or serve anything,  so we have to bring our own food/drink.   At 430 we all bounce and get home before curfew.   On the way home, you may see a chica or two.  At that hour, they arent usually trying to make a hook up so they have to spend the night, and you wont want them to either.   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JayMillz on April 06, 2020, 09:47:16 AM
So how is Sosua looking as far as chicas?   Slowly but surely I'm seeing more local chicas during the day.   Not any fine specimens.  Just chicas with 3 holes, FWIW.   Some down right ugly and nasty looking.    Others that look doable, but not worth the risk dealing with just to get laid.   



Surprised there isn't a quarantine there?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 06, 2020, 10:14:16 AM
So how is Sosua looking as far as chicas?   Slowly but surely I'm seeing more local chicas during the day.   Not any fine specimens.  Just chicas with 3 holes, FWIW.   Some down right ugly and nasty looking.    Others that look doable, but not worth the risk dealing with just to get laid.   



Surprised there isn't a quarantine there?
The quarantine in effect is from province to province.   Cant travel from one province to another unless authorized.   As you know, in San Francisco De Marcoris, which is in the Duarte province, the whole town is under quarantine.   

Mainly because they have the most deaths recorded in one province. Sosua is in Puerto Plata province and has over 30 cases reported, but no deaths reported , YET!    It's possible that none of those cases came from Sosua.   

As people go about their day,  many people are wearing masks and practicing social spacing.   ( I dont like the term social distancing )  Especially inside and out side of stores and banks.   However,  masks are not always worn everywhere.    Some people dont put on masks until they get close to people.   I think the gringos are more responsible when it comes to personal protection, and social spacing than the locals.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC & Crisis
Post by: murano2010 on April 11, 2020, 08:42:51 AM
Numbers have increased in the DR :

Cases are 2620 ( was 2349 ), Deaths 126 ( was 118 )  Recoveries 98 ( was 80 )

DR authorities extended the Nacional Emergency,  It is to stay in effect until April 30th.   

Puerto Plata province has 42 cases last I checked,  but still no deaths reported.   No cases reported in Sosua, yet.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PMIdump on April 11, 2020, 10:22:47 AM
Here is where I see updated information for RD. Puerta Plata is showing 1 death so far over all.

https://twitter.com/SaludPublicaRD/status/1248653650324488193?s=20
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 11, 2020, 12:43:07 PM
Here is where I see updated information for RD. Puerta Plata is showing 1 death so far over all.

https://twitter.com/SaludPublicaRD/status/1248653650324488193?s=20
That website appears to provide updated information.  Quicker than some of the other sources online.   BTW is that death in Puerto Plata city or it occurred within the Province?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 11, 2020, 01:39:27 PM
Okay folks a brief update :

Cases for the Puerto Plata province have risen to 52 ( as of April 11 ), and now there are 2 recent deaths reported.  One was a high ranking commander of the Policia Nacional in Sabaneta and the other was a school bus driver in Sabaneta.     

It would be interesting to know if both men were somehow exposed to the same source, of where they contracted the virus.  Also the possibility that more members of the PN may have been infected?   Which might account for the rise in cases in the PP province.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 11, 2020, 02:14:07 PM
My friend Sylvia, who work at Oso Polar on the beach contacted me yesterday in inform me her sister died in Puerto Plata from COVID 19
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 11, 2020, 03:52:00 PM
Looks Like its going to get worse for a while!, lets hope theres a peak or Platuea,,,Then goes down  Stay the cource Sirs !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 11, 2020, 04:10:28 PM
Looks Like its going to get worse for a while!, lets hope theres a peak or Platuea,,,Then goes down  Stay the cource Sirs !
The thing is, wherever there are cases you can kinda expect the likely hood that there will be losses.   Can't keep up with the numbers either.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 17, 2020, 08:02:24 AM
Dominican President Medina to address the public tonight.  9PM.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PMIdump on April 18, 2020, 02:02:41 PM
Bulletin 30 from last night

Cases by Province

https://twitter.com/SaludPublicaRD/status/1251538222737432581/photo/2

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 19, 2020, 05:17:58 PM
Initially this was a story I read about 5 locals that died from ingesting some sort of cheap alcoholic beverage.   Later 8 more locals died from the same shit.   However it has got worse resulting in more deaths.    So if any one has any friends or loved ones here in the DR that might purchase or be offered to drink this garbage,  make them aware of this, so they dont end up dying for no reason.     

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 28, 2020, 09:43:46 AM
As we might have guessed that there may be some back lash.  The authorities put Puerto Plata on a 7 day lock down.  Mainly due to this past Sunday's march with "The Pilgrim".     A PP police commander was supposedly suspended behind this mess.  Also some scrutiny was focused on the newly elected mayor, on whether or not he knew about the march and sanctioned it.   



https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/04/28/puerto-plata-awakes-to-lockdown-after-pilgrim-fiasco/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/04/28/puerto-plata-awakes-to-lockdown-after-pilgrim-fiasco/)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 28, 2020, 02:26:17 PM
Deputies approve a 17-day extension of the state of emergency


https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/04/28/deputies-approve-a-17-day-extension-of-the-state-of-emergency/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/04/28/deputies-approve-a-17-day-extension-of-the-state-of-emergency/)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 21, 2020, 08:52:30 AM
An example of how a curfew during a pandemic does not stop crime during non curfew hours.   


http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=32810 (http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=32810)

Translated from Spanish :


PUERTO PLATA.-  The North Regional Directorate of the National Police based in this Atlantic city, reported on the separate arrest of two individuals who are being accused of committing various crimes to the detriment of citizens.

Police spokeswoman in Puerto Plata, Lt. Rosario Del Carmen García Bonilla, explained that the first detainee was identified as Aramis Castillo Reyes, about 42 years old, who resides in the Los Sufridos sector, located in the southern area of ​​this jurisdiction.

Castillo Reyes was arrested by a patrol that caught him in flagrante delicto on Manolo Tavárez Avenue just in front of the Public Hospital, when a Samsung-brand cell phone was stolen from Haitian citizen Siveus Diasson.

The warned man was sent to the courts of justice, since he admitted having committed several thefts of cell phones to different people and that the stolen communication devices sold them in the Playa Oeste sector in the lower part of this city, from which they were recovered six.

Similarly, the 26-year-old Williams Ramos Martínez, resident in the La Subía La Uva sector, was arrested and will be brought to justice in the next few hours, who in the company of a certain Chester, who is fugitive, they assaulted a lady with the edge of the knife.

The two thugs committed the criminal action on board a motorcycle when they ambushed Mrs. Albania Pelegrín Jiménez, stripping her of her wallet containing personal documents, credit cards, an Apple-branded cell phone, Model IPhone 7Plus and an undetermined amount of cash.



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 21, 2020, 08:59:55 AM
http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=32793 (http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=32793)

Day time robberies and theft?   

Translated from Spanish :

PUERTO PLATA.-  Members of the National Police in this city recovered the X1000 motorcycle, model CG-200, white color, which had been stolen from Mr. Ramón Ignacio Díaz Ulloa, in the Los Bordas sector.

Likewise, agents attached to the Central Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DICRIM), arrested in the San Antonio sector of the San Marcos community, the 24-year-old Luis German Peña Sarita (Chichi), who is accused of robbery.

According to the police version, the forewarned Peña Sarita in the company of the named Ariel Torres (El Menor), stole a large sum of money from the interior of a commercial truck when it was parked in front of a grocery store on the main street of the Los Domínguez sector.

Of the loot of stolen money, Mr. Dámaso Peña, who is the father of the young detainee, voluntarily handed over some 45,500 pesos, for which, like his offspring, they will be brought to justice.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 13, 2020, 07:33:16 PM
I cant help but notice,  a lot more traffic and vehicles , than before the lock down/curfews.  People driving a lot more aggressive.  And Im seeing and hearing about fatal accidents and significant injuries on the regular.   A huge drop in fatalities/injuries from accidents during curfew and lock down.   It's like people have lost their damn minds the way they are driving now,  and acting like they need to make up for the drop in the death rate.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 13, 2020, 07:59:15 PM
I cant help but notice,  a lot more traffic and vehicles , than before the lock down/curfews.  People driving a lot more aggressive.  And Im seeing and hearing about fatal accidents and significant injuries on the regular.   A huge drop in fatalities/injuries from accidents during curfew and lock down.   It's like people have lost their damn minds the way they are driving now,  and acting like they need to make up for the drop in the death rate.

While I can't attest to an increase in fatal accidents we're experiencing the same phenomena here in LA of extremely aggresive unsafe driving. It's almost as if people are using their cars to express their frustrations with our current situation.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 01, 2020, 07:52:17 PM
Be on the look out for chicas using hard drugs.   I dont mean weed or coke.  I mean crack or some other hardcore substance.  In several areas there is obvious drug activity day and night ( including during the lock down and curfew ).  I caught a glimpse several times of what looked like vials being given to a customer/dealer.   Vials instead of joints may mean they are dealing some hard core shit.      I have seen several chicas that have been around a while looking pretty bad these days.   

One particular block,  I have seen quite a few chicas on the back of motos going to the drug areas regularly,  probably to cop.   Of course dudes too.   Ive also seen police rolling through those areas.   Nothing has changed and nobody is getting busted.  Which leads me to believe they may be getting their cut, to allow them to operate.   I have to admit, it's quiet and somewhat discreet.

So by the time some of you guys get back here.  Make sure you pay attention to how your chica guests carry themselves.   A chica on hard core drugs has the potential to be more of a problem than a weed head.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 10, 2020, 07:18:10 PM
Okay,  so the talent is rolling in.   You tourists sure have an effect on these chicas.   The moment the flights start rolling in,  so have the chicas come rolling into Sosua.    Just when I thought that decent talent would be a while from now,  today I was proved it was gonna happen much sooner.

Didnt go to the beach, but my guess is,  there may have been quite a few chicas hanging around the #64 - 74 area restaurants on the beach.    But this evening spotted a nice complement of chicas posted up in Rumbas.   A couple of tables with groups of chicas.   A table or two with 2 or 3 chicas.    And of course a table with couples or hookups in the making.   Decent looking chicas.   That was early evening.  It just might become packed until they have to close.   Oh and dont forget Bourbon Street at Ahnvee is open.   No clubbing or disco is allowed yet,  but it's still a decent meeting place.

But.   A huge but.   The Politur police was on patrol.   And the chicas were reacting to their presence.   Which means,  the girls will not likely be left alone if they do not have a male escort.   

One thing to observe here.   Are these chicas here because it's the weekend,  or are they staying awhile?   Did they come from afar,  or are they mostly local chicas , perhaps from PP?    If by Monday or Tuesday the town seems desolate again,  I'll assume some of these girls came just for some quick cash to earn on the weekend.    Hell, that may also apply to some of these guys that just arrived.   Many may be just Weekend Warriors.   

Remember masks while walking about is still mandatory.   Nobody is being hassled though if you are sitting somewhere drinking or eating.   But the moment you leave an establishment or going to a store.   Walking about outdoors.    Have your mask on.    A threat of a fine has been imposed.  $10,000 up to $100,000 pesos.    If they enforce it.   Dont give anybody reason to take your money.        To be continued.......
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on July 10, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
Okay,  so the talent is rolling in.   You tourists sure have an effect on these chicas.   The moment the flights start rolling in,  so have the chicas come rolling into Sosua.    Just when I thought that decent talent would be a while from now,  today I was proved it was gonna happen much sooner.

Didnt go to the beach, but my guess is,  there may have been quite a few chicas hanging around the #64 - 74 area restaurants on the beach.    But this evening spotted a nice complement of chicas posted up in Rumbas.   A couple of tables with groups of chicas.   A table or two with 2 or 3 chicas.    And of course a table with couples or hookups in the making.   Decent looking chicas.   That was early evening.  It just might become packed until they have to close.   Oh and dont forget Bourbon Street at Ahnvee is open.   No clubbing or disco is allowed yet,  but it's still a decent meeting place.

But.   A huge but.   The Politur police was on patrol.   And the chicas were reacting to their presence.   Which means,  the girls will not likely be left alone if they do not have a male escort.   

One thing to observe here.   Are these chicas here because it's the weekend,  or are they staying awhile?   Did they come from afar,  or are they mostly local chicas , perhaps from PP?    If by Monday or Tuesday the town seems desolate again,  I'll assume some of these girls came just for some quick cash to earn on the weekend.    Hell, that may also apply to some of these guys that just arrived.   Many may be just Weekend Warriors.   

Remember masks while walking about is still mandatory.   Nobody is being hassled though if you are sitting somewhere drinking or eating.   But the moment you leave an establishment or going to a store.   Walking about outdoors.    Have your mask on.    A threat of a fine has been imposed.  $10,000 up to $100,000 pesos.    If they enforce it.   Dont give anybody reason to take your money.        To be continued.......

Thank you for the encouraging update.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 10, 2020, 09:26:23 PM
If it helps,  it's all good. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 11, 2020, 08:18:40 AM
Okay,  so the talent is rolling in.   You tourists sure have an effect on these chicas.   The moment the flights start rolling in,  so have the chicas come rolling into Sosua.    Just when I thought that decent talent would be a while from now,  today I was proved it was gonna happen much sooner.

Didnt go to the beach, but my guess is,  there may have been quite a few chicas hanging around the #64 - 74 area restaurants on the beach.    But this evening spotted a nice complement of chicas posted up in Rumbas.   A couple of tables with groups of chicas.   A table or two with 2 or 3 chicas.    And of course a table with couples or hookups in the making.   Decent looking chicas.   That was early evening.  It just might become packed until they have to close.   Oh and dont forget Bourbon Street at Ahnvee is open.   No clubbing or disco is allowed yet,  but it's still a decent meeting place.

But.   A huge but.   The Politur police was on patrol.   And the chicas were reacting to their presence.   Which means,  the girls will not likely be left alone if they do not have a male escort.   

One thing to observe here.   Are these chicas here because it's the weekend,  or are they staying awhile?   Did they come from afar,  or are they mostly local chicas , perhaps from PP?    If by Monday or Tuesday the town seems desolate again,  I'll assume some of these girls came just for some quick cash to earn on the weekend.    Hell, that may also apply to some of these guys that just arrived.   Many may be just Weekend Warriors.   

Remember masks while walking about is still mandatory.   Nobody is being hassled though if you are sitting somewhere drinking or eating.   But the moment you leave an establishment or going to a store.   Walking about outdoors.    Have your mask on.    A threat of a fine has been imposed.  $10,000 up to $100,000 pesos.    If they enforce it.   Dont give anybody reason to take your money.        To be continued.......

Nice report!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on July 11, 2020, 10:16:00 AM
Appreciate the info
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: SirJayReturns on July 11, 2020, 05:24:24 PM
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 11, 2020, 05:35:11 PM
I got stopped for no mask by ahmed over by Benito in the wheelchair. They politely told me I need to wear a mask. No fine and no animosity. I walked a block back to my car put on a mask that I had inside.  Maybe me appearing charitable made them go easy on me. Who knows!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Wagger01 on July 12, 2020, 10:55:34 AM
Be on the look out for chicas using hard drugs.   I dont mean weed or coke.  I mean crack or some other hardcore substance.  In several areas there is obvious drug activity day and night ( including during the lock down and curfew ).  I caught a glimpse several times of what looked like vials being given to a customer/dealer.   Vials instead of joints may mean they are dealing some hard core shit.      I have seen several chicas that have been around a while looking pretty bad these days.   

One particular block,  I have seen quite a few chicas on the back of motos going to the drug areas regularly,  probably to cop.   Of course dudes too.   Ive also seen police rolling through those areas.   Nothing has changed and nobody is getting busted.  Which leads me to believe they may be getting their cut, to allow them to operate.   I have to admit, it's quiet and somewhat discreet.

So by the time some of you guys get back here.  Make sure you pay attention to how your chica guests carry themselves.   A chica on hard core drugs has the potential to be more of a problem than a weed head.   

Could the “vials” be THC carts? Are they available in Sosua?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 13, 2020, 08:24:20 AM
Be on the look out for chicas using hard drugs.   I dont mean weed or coke.  I mean crack or some other hardcore substance.  In several areas there is obvious drug activity day and night ( including during the lock down and curfew ).  I caught a glimpse several times of what looked like vials being given to a customer/dealer.   Vials instead of joints may mean they are dealing some hard core shit.      I have seen several chicas that have been around a while looking pretty bad these days.   

One particular block,  I have seen quite a few chicas on the back of motos going to the drug areas regularly,  probably to cop.   Of course dudes too.   Ive also seen police rolling through those areas.   Nothing has changed and nobody is getting busted.  Which leads me to believe they may be getting their cut, to allow them to operate.   I have to admit, it's quiet and somewhat discreet.

So by the time some of you guys get back here.  Make sure you pay attention to how your chica guests carry themselves.   A chica on hard core drugs has the potential to be more of a problem than a weed head.   

Could the “vials” be THC carts? Are they available in Sosua?

Definitely NOT thc cartridges......lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 13, 2020, 03:23:14 PM
Be on the look out for chicas using hard drugs.   I dont mean weed or coke.  I mean crack or some other hardcore substance.  In several areas there is obvious drug activity day and night ( including during the lock down and curfew ).  I caught a glimpse several times of what looked like vials being given to a customer/dealer.   Vials instead of joints may mean they are dealing some hard core shit.      I have seen several chicas that have been around a while looking pretty bad these days.   

One particular block,  I have seen quite a few chicas on the back of motos going to the drug areas regularly,  probably to cop.   Of course dudes too.   Ive also seen police rolling through those areas.   Nothing has changed and nobody is getting busted.  Which leads me to believe they may be getting their cut, to allow them to operate.   I have to admit, it's quiet and somewhat discreet.

So by the time some of you guys get back here.  Make sure you pay attention to how your chica guests carry themselves.   A chica on hard core drugs has the potential to be more of a problem than a weed head.   

Could the “vials” be THC carts? Are they available in Sosua?
Please enlighten me.   What is/are THC carts?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Wagger01 on July 13, 2020, 03:51:51 PM
Marijuana oil cartridges for vape pen. NO SMELL. Push button, hit it , and stick it in your pocket.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 13, 2020, 03:54:03 PM
Marijuana oil cartridges for vape pen. NO SMELL. Push button, hit it , and stick it in your pocket.
Oh okay
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 15, 2020, 10:24:24 AM
The Policia Nacionals are making it their business of making sure restaurant/bar businesses were closed by 8pm.   Im trying to grasp whats going on.   One day businesses I thought were allowed to stay open until 10 or 11 pm,  and then another night the police are enforcing closures at 8pm.

Yesterday, Tuesday July 14th a lot more tourists and passable chicas ( your standards may vary ) showed up on the beach.   Thing is,  Im starting to see the same chicas every day.   Most of them I consider long time vets.  New to guys who havent seen them or been with them.   Mixed in are many of the fugglies that were romping around Sosua before things opened up.   

But just for the fact that the beach is open, and there is no curfew,  what we have is a welcome sight.   Like I said before. For guys who have pussy on the brain constantly, if they have regulars/contacts that they can manage,  or they are good with social media,  they can still have a good time.   Some guys expressed to me, that it was great just being here in the DR.

Now we'll have to see if there is any backlash that causes the authorities to get spooked and impose some drastic action/reversal.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 15, 2020, 09:27:14 PM
It's 10:25pm and Copacabana is taking in people in secret. Making us sit in the dark to eat and drink in secret. At least 12 chicas selling pussy right now in here!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on July 15, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
It's 10:25pm and Copacabana is taking in people in secret. Making us sit in the dark to eat and drink in secret. At least 12 chicas selling pussy right now in here!!

In secret from who?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 16, 2020, 12:12:49 AM
The policia. They're making the rounds to catch and stop any deemed violators/violations.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bospat15 on July 16, 2020, 12:20:15 AM


Is the  thinking that the polcia don't know how to use the internet these days...

If it is I can assure that's not true.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 16, 2020, 12:28:08 AM
IMHO...they are more interested about what's in your wallet.  And then they move on. The owner spit out a quit phrase and the police departed from one of their quick checks!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Kamar on July 16, 2020, 01:20:52 AM
Been in Sosua for 3 days. Decided to arrive earlier just in case they decide to shut down for a few weeks or months.  Thanks god, I have a regular because right now there isn't many nice selections to choose from.  The bar & grill on Pedro clisante closed at 8pm. On the beach, I only seen a handful of female walking the beach. To be honest, I do feel like all the sexy chicas are still at home and waiting for more tourists to show up before arriving to the Su. No disrespect to the girls working but i'm disappointed in the options ( i'm use to seeing better talent walking around)  Ahvnee looked closed so I didn't go in. Not all, but some of the girls are willing to accept $30. However, I did have one quote me $100 for ST. Which I decline in this market.  If I didn't have a main, I would be disappointed that I came at this time. If this is your first trip you may want to wait to come.  It is the weekday so I understand that can be a major impact on the city but currently I wouldn't recommend anyone to come to the SU.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheBlackMamba on July 16, 2020, 02:04:20 AM
Appreciate your honesty brother. Just sounds like your honest, unbiased observations. No hate and no story spinning about how wonderful it is out there and how you’re  getting tons of cheap pussy from dimes (some of the stories I’ve heard...boy I tell ya...). I do believe it will rebound strong in 2021, particularly once a functioning vaccine gets flowing.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Rumrumman on July 16, 2020, 02:26:35 AM
Honesty is the best policy and that’s what I am hearing from few guys who live there it’s slow
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 16, 2020, 05:52:02 AM
Key words  have a main chica,,,,  Sure if your a vet or have some trips under you belt,your good to go,, or are sick of the pandemic BS and The Current political BS media shit show in the USA,a quick vist to the DR to get your ashes hauled, may be what the docter orderd, (And its Not Fucci)  Enjoy while you can, lets hope they dont shut it down  again !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Wagger01 on July 16, 2020, 12:39:52 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on July 16, 2020, 01:09:22 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

Badoo works for sure. Haven’t tried Tinder here but it should work. I’ve been pulling from Puerto Plata but I have a car. Not a good idea to rent a car your first trip. But once you get more confident with driving, lots of tang to be had driving around.

Talent is off in Sosua but plenty of 5 to 7s. Had an 8 last night and her enthusiasm was unreal. Be careful what you say to them. They are looking for a permanent relationship. By the second date they want to bring their kids along and cook for you.  I don’t blame them, it’s been lights out economically. Buying food and paying rent keeps coming up. Anyway, as of a few days ago, by 8pm the strip is shut down. Girls are walking around all night but the new prime time is 6 to 8pm
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 16, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.
Malecon and Shopping and dining spots. If you can drive slow...rent a car. It's not that scary or that big a deal.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on July 16, 2020, 02:04:54 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I've had lots of success on Tagged.  Plus it's free.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PTJD on July 16, 2020, 03:21:01 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on July 16, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
Good newbie info,
Tx for sharing the gold......
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on July 16, 2020, 05:58:13 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PTJD on July 16, 2020, 09:01:48 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.

That's just it-- what I have been offering is what is being posted as the going rates!!  There was one that I think is a total dime that I did not want to get away.  I offered 5000 pesos for 4 hours and she jumped at it.  That is the highest, and only because it was 4 hours and she is a smoke show. Honestly, I find her so flaming I woulda paid double.  I expected her to ask for double, but she didn't.  The others I have talked to in the 2000-2500 range for short time.  They are agreeable right away.  Now, as long as they show up, I have it in writing.  I'm a newbie to Sosua, so maybe they end up blowing me off and are only telling me what I want to hear.  But that is what the convos have been so far.  Maybe I should go down to 1500 and see what the response is.  Call me out if you think the 5000/4 hrs was too much.  I'm here to learn from y'all.   :)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on July 16, 2020, 09:27:59 PM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.

That's just it-- what I have been offering is what is being posted as the going rates!!  There was one that I think is a total dime that I did not want to get away.  I offered 5000 pesos for 4 hours and she jumped at it.  That is the highest, and only because it was 4 hours and she is a smoke show. Honestly, I find her so flaming I woulda paid double.  I expected her to ask for double, but she didn't.  The others I have talked to in the 2000-2500 range for short time.  They are agreeable right away.  Now, as long as they show up, I have it in writing.  I'm a newbie to Sosua, so maybe they end up blowing me off and are only telling me what I want to hear.  But that is what the convos have been so far.  Maybe I should go down to 1500 and see what the response is.  Call me out if you think the 5000/4 hrs was too much.  I'm here to learn from y'all.   :)

Many schools of thought on this.

However I would never offer a chica 5,000 ST for 4 hours to someone I have never seen face to face.   

Quite frankly I am never giving a chica 5,000 for ST cause you don't have to.  Especially in the current environment.

Pretty much guarantee that she will show up and do her thing and be ready to leave after 1 or maybe 2 shots and she won't want to stay for 4 hours.   So you will end up paying 5,000 for a st that you could have done for way less

Better off to start low and and work up to an acceptable fee for her time.

She thinks she has won but actually you get it at your price

Not sure how long you are going to be in town but no need to lock a bunch of them down as most of them are going to flake on you anyway.

The farther away that they are the lower the chance they will show up so keep that in mind.

Also know the they operate on Dominican time and rarely show up when you want them to.

Typically you can score better rates during the day when demand is down.
Early evening you might want line them up for one shot and if you like them offer to give them a little more to stay longer

This is why you start on the lower end and work up otherwise if you start at 5k and want to keep her longer your stuck with having to over pay her.

Get in the mentality of being in the DR and not the USA it is a different ball game



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PTJD on July 17, 2020, 12:07:12 AM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.

That's just it-- what I have been offering is what is being posted as the going rates!!  There was one that I think is a total dime that I did not want to get away.  I offered 5000 pesos for 4 hours and she jumped at it.  That is the highest, and only because it was 4 hours and she is a smoke show. Honestly, I find her so flaming I woulda paid double.  I expected her to ask for double, but she didn't.  The others I have talked to in the 2000-2500 range for short time.  They are agreeable right away.  Now, as long as they show up, I have it in writing.  I'm a newbie to Sosua, so maybe they end up blowing me off and are only telling me what I want to hear.  But that is what the convos have been so far.  Maybe I should go down to 1500 and see what the response is.  Call me out if you think the 5000/4 hrs was too much.  I'm here to learn from y'all.   :)

Many schools of thought on this.

However I would never offer a chica 5,000 ST for 4 hours to someone I have never seen face to face.   

Quite frankly I am never giving a chica 5,000 for ST cause you don't have to.  Especially in the current environment.

Pretty much guarantee that she will show up and do her thing and be ready to leave after 1 or maybe 2 shots and she won't want to stay for 4 hours.   So you will end up paying 5,000 for a st that you could have done for way less

Better off to start low and and work up to an acceptable fee for her time.

She thinks she has won but actually you get it at your price

Not sure how long you are going to be in town but no need to lock a bunch of them down as most of them are going to flake on you anyway.

The farther away that they are the lower the chance they will show up so keep that in mind.

Also know the they operate on Dominican time and rarely show up when you want them to.

Typically you can score better rates during the day when demand is down.
Early evening you might want line them up for one shot and if you like them offer to give them a little more to stay longer

This is why you start on the lower end and work up otherwise if you start at 5k and want to keep her longer your stuck with having to over pay her.

Get in the mentality of being in the DR and not the USA it is a different ball game

Good wisdom and I don't disagree with anything you said!

I'll just explain myself a little better.  I've only been on a trip like this to Costa Rica, but my trip there in April got cancelled.  I have been wanting to get back to the DR and it is the only place I could book to now, so hell yeah!

But given the uncertainty, I wanted to have a few likely connections lined up in advance.  Was thinking maybe 5 or so, figuring a few would flake.  If I get two meetups out of the five, cool.  Less work I will have to do in an environment that may be some level of shut down.  Right now, I think I have five who say they want to get together, so I think I am set there.

I hear you about offering 5k to someone I haven't met.  Normally I wouldn't either.  But damn, this chica is damn near perfect for my taste!  She is 20 (and looks it, not one that says they are 25 and looks 35) and close by-- so dont have to worry about her needing to travel far.  Plus, her photos were raw, not using a bunch of filters or shit.  I decided since it is my first trip to Sosua, it was worth the risk to make an agreement.  And at that rate, it is roughly the same as one shot with a fine chica in Costa Rica.  If I get one shot, I cant really bitch-- same as Costa Rica.  If I get two, I'm happy.  Anything more, and I'm in heaven.  And maybe we hook up again during my trip.  Plus, if it is all good, I now have a connection with a dime for future trips.  I know there is a little risk, but for this one I figured the possible rewards outweighed the risk!  Plus, I haven't paid her anything yet, and won't until we meet!

For the others, I am holding the line!

And I have them send me pics while I am talking to them, rather than go off their profile pics.

Yeah, I know about Dominican time.  An appointment time basically means "whenever the hell I decide to get there."  :)

Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DaManHawaii on July 17, 2020, 09:02:14 AM
Last two days.

ST 2 Shots 2000p (No Pre Negotiation)
LT 2  Shots 4000p (No Pre Negotiation)

It's a buyer market.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on July 17, 2020, 10:04:13 AM
Jesus mother f--king christ!

Guys got these chicas by the pussy hairs and STILL overpaying....

Man would I love to go into business with some of you knuckleheads. I'd gank the shit out of you....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 17, 2020, 11:12:45 AM
Last two days.

ST 2 Shots 2000p (No Pre Negotiation)
LT 2  Shots 4000p (No Pre Negotiation)

It's a buyer market.

2 shots 2000 is GOLD!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bigtreetron on July 18, 2020, 08:38:55 AM
I have been pipe lining from Dom Cupid and Tinder to what's app and alot of girls either change the subject, act innocent or tell me they are looking for a serious relationship and are not there for sex. Some just say yes when I offer them money for when I arrive others act offended but I feel like every woman I match with is full of shit and only there to proposition men in some way. Have you experienced this behavior of playing dumb about sex work?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 18, 2020, 09:07:15 AM
All true and the nature of the online beast. You just have to continue trying to vett them, don't send and money for free and when you arrive you should be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PTJD on July 18, 2020, 05:41:35 PM
All true and the nature of the online beast. You just have continue trying to vett them, don't send and money for free and when you arrive you should be able to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Papi is right as usual.  Great advice and reports from on the ground!  I feel great about the prospects for my trip because of all of the advice from him and others on here.  Once you get there you will be able to separate the good and bad.  So far, I have lined up enough if they all show I am set, but I anticipate some will flake.  I have booked up my days.  If the chica is amazing, maybe we negotiate her staying.  If she flakes, I go work on my day game at the beach and have my night open.  I have connected with a few others that I could hit up once I arrive if needed.  And like he said, don't send any money.  Whenever I could even sense a chica is gonna hit me up for money, I shut that down immediately.  I draw a hard line.  So far, that has ended it.

If they are playing dumb about sex work, here is what I usually do:  First, I only communicate with the ones that are showing off in their pics.  If they got their titties popping out, showing their ass in a tiny bikini, etc., that is a good indication.  I have a few minutes of small talk and then cut to the chase.  I throw something out there from their pics like "I would love to get you out of that bikini."  No playing dumb about sex work now.  They know what I am looking for and it is either yes or no.  They usually come back with something like "Seriously?"-- which could be taken as either good or bad.  I then say "Yeah. Why? Is that good or bad?"  So far, every time they have said good.  Now you can get down to business and vet them further.  I understand why some of these chicas that aren't full-time pros dance around the sex work subject, but once you press them, they need to make up their mind.  Do they want to make $ or not?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 18, 2020, 07:42:57 PM
Basic mongering 101 vet them out if a short time is off the chain invite back for an other session and LT,,,!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on July 19, 2020, 03:14:24 AM
This has been my issue with Dom Dom Cupid. They all saying they want relationships. Just starting badoo (so far annoying af with the upselling) and tagged (trying to figure out wtf is flying here ;)

Also not going till late August so prob starting a bit to soon. Just wanna make sure i have a good vacay - first tine down there

I have been pipe lining from Dom Cupid and Tinder to what's app and alot of girls either change the subject, act innocent or tell me they are looking for a serious relationship and are not there for sex. Some just say yes when I offer them money for when I arrive others act offended but I feel like every woman I match with is full of shit and only there to proposition men in some way. Have you experienced this behavior of playing dumb about sex work?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: NotANoob on July 19, 2020, 09:15:47 AM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.

That's just it-- what I have been offering is what is being posted as the going rates!!  There was one that I think is a total dime that I did not want to get away.  I offered 5000 pesos for 4 hours and she jumped at it.  That is the highest, and only because it was 4 hours and she is a smoke show. Honestly, I find her so flaming I woulda paid double.  I expected her to ask for double, but she didn't.  The others I have talked to in the 2000-2500 range for short time.  They are agreeable right away.  Now, as long as they show up, I have it in writing.  I'm a newbie to Sosua, so maybe they end up blowing me off and are only telling me what I want to hear.  But that is what the convos have been so far.  Maybe I should go down to 1500 and see what the response is.  Call me out if you think the 5000/4 hrs was too much.  I'm here to learn from y'all.   :)

If you are doing 2000/2500 for short term which is pretty much a nut with these chica....then dont bother doing that 5000 for 4 hrs with any of them, you gonna get screwed.

Simply go with your short term...and if you vibe well with any of them while together, you can tell them then that if they stay a couple more hours you can add 1000/1500 to their money. You gotto drive a decent bargain with them but you don't want to come out starting with 5000 for 4 hours, that's a recipe for disaster so to speak. Start short term and work ya way up based on performance and vibe....

Personally I won't go above 2000 for short term in this climate....and 4000 will be that chic is spending the night and you can drop a solid tip based on performance.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on July 19, 2020, 09:30:37 AM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.

That's just it-- what I have been offering is what is being posted as the going rates!!  There was one that I think is a total dime that I did not want to get away.  I offered 5000 pesos for 4 hours and she jumped at it.  That is the highest, and only because it was 4 hours and she is a smoke show. Honestly, I find her so flaming I woulda paid double.  I expected her to ask for double, but she didn't.  The others I have talked to in the 2000-2500 range for short time.  They are agreeable right away.  Now, as long as they show up, I have it in writing.  I'm a newbie to Sosua, so maybe they end up blowing me off and are only telling me what I want to hear.  But that is what the convos have been so far.  Maybe I should go down to 1500 and see what the response is.  Call me out if you think the 5000/4 hrs was too much.  I'm here to learn from y'all.   :)

If you are doing 2000/2500 for short term which is pretty much a nut with these chica....then dont bother doing that 5000 for 4 hrs with any of them, you gonna get screwed.

Simply go with your short term...and if you vibe well with any of them while together, you can tell them then that if they stay a couple more hours you can add 1000/1500 to their money. You gotto drive a decent bargain with them but you don't want to come out starting with 5000 for 4 hours, that's a recipe for disaster so to speak. Start short term and work ya way up based on performance and vibe....

Personally I won't go above 2000 for short term in this climate....and 4000 will be that chic is spending the night and you can drop a solid tip based on performance.

2000 ST isn’t necessary. In almost two weeks one chica wanted 3000, I just walked away. They will take what you offer. Sheer desperation at this time. That could also be the USA soon. State and city pensions at severe risk. Think your job is secure?  I pray it is for all of you. No way to stop inflation, it’s coming.  World’s smartest bank CEO, Jamie Dimon says even he doesn’t know what going to happen to our economy. For those other than Americans, sad to say if we go down you probably do too. Not happy to write this, but conserving cash is important in this economic climate.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: CapnBossanova420 on July 20, 2020, 02:21:49 AM
First time to Sosua will be in a a few days. If the talent isn’t up to par, what is a good internet shopping tool. Not to “social media savvy “ But I might need to get busy.

I am a newbie making my first trip in a couple of weeks (hopefully).  I'm no expert, but most of these vets give great advice.  At their suggestion, I went on Tinder and Dominican Cupid.  The response was amazing-- and quick!  First couple of days, I was overwhelmed with messages.  Most of them I passed on, but narrowed the list down.  Kept narrowing it down until now I have a handful of good prospects.  Have some verbal offers that have been jumped at by the chicas.  I have sensed that many of them are needing the $$$ right now.  Maybe one or two flake out on me, but I know some of them will show up if contacted. They need the $$$.  The cost of these socials is nothing, if it means I am going to have a more successful trip.  I look at it as trip insurance.

Gonna check out the local scene when I get there and see what's up.  Sounds like things are kinda slow now.  If that's the case, and I don't find what I'm looking for, I now know I have some good contacts to hit up.  Gonna hit up a few of them anyway.

The lesson I learned from the vets is to give yourself option.  And they know what they are talking about!  The socials are great options, particularly if things are slow on the ground.  Find a social media you are comfortable with and start making connection now.  Have it lined up and ready to go.  Whatever social you use, download WhatsApp.  Most of my connections started on Cupid or Tinder, and then they want to move to WhatsApp.  Bonus of that is they are more comfortable sending nudes and videos on that because it is encrypted, so you get to really check out the merchandise better.  Beware most of the profile pics on the socials.  Usually their pics are either older pics or using filters, or both.  On WhatsApp you can get them to send new pics and see what they look like now.  Also, as a fellow newbie, don't fall for the "baby, I am hungry.  Can you send me some money now" shit.  I had to put my foot down and make it clear there is no $$$ until I get there.  They were all ok with that once I put my foot down.  But they will see what they can get away with, especially with newbies.

What level of compensation are you offering them that they are "jumping at the deal"

If you aren't getting any push back its to much.

That's just it-- what I have been offering is what is being posted as the going rates!!  There was one that I think is a total dime that I did not want to get away.  I offered 5000 pesos for 4 hours and she jumped at it.  That is the highest, and only because it was 4 hours and she is a smoke show. Honestly, I find her so flaming I woulda paid double.  I expected her to ask for double, but she didn't.  The others I have talked to in the 2000-2500 range for short time.  They are agreeable right away.  Now, as long as they show up, I have it in writing.  I'm a newbie to Sosua, so maybe they end up blowing me off and are only telling me what I want to hear.  But that is what the convos have been so far.  Maybe I should go down to 1500 and see what the response is.  Call me out if you think the 5000/4 hrs was too much.  I'm here to learn from y'all.   :)

If you are doing 2000/2500 for short term which is pretty much a nut with these chica....then dont bother doing that 5000 for 4 hrs with any of them, you gonna get screwed.

Simply go with your short term...and if you vibe well with any of them while together, you can tell them then that if they stay a couple more hours you can add 1000/1500 to their money. You gotto drive a decent bargain with them but you don't want to come out starting with 5000 for 4 hours, that's a recipe for disaster so to speak. Start short term and work ya way up based on performance and vibe....

Personally I won't go above 2000 for short term in this climate....and 4000 will be that chic is spending the night and you can drop a solid tip based on performance.

2000 ST isn’t necessary. In almost two weeks one chica wanted 3000, I just walked away. They will take what you offer. Sheer desperation at this time. That could also be the USA soon. State and city pensions at severe risk. Think your job is secure?  I pray it is for all of you. No way to stop inflation, it’s coming.  World’s smartest bank CEO, Jamie Dimon says even he doesn’t know what going to happen to our economy. For those other than Americans, sad to say if we go down you probably do too. Not happy to write this, but conserving cash is important in this economic climate.

f--k cash, with inflation you need gold
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 20, 2020, 02:09:28 PM
Curfew starts this Tuesday at 7 at night until 5 in the morning

 
SANTO DOMINGO.- President Danilo Medina decreed the curfew this Monday from seven in the evening to five in the morning, from Monday to Friday, and from five in the afternoon to five in the morning on Saturdays and Sundays.

It will come into effect as of this Tuesday and for a period of twenty days, at the end of which the measure will be reviewed based on the epidemiological evolution of COVID-19 in the Dominican Republic.

It establishes that on Saturdays and Sundays it will be from five in the afternoon to five in the morning.


 
The measure will cover the National District, the provinces of Santo Domingo, Santiago, San Cristóbal, San Pedro, La Vega, Duarte, among others.

It indicates that in other areas the curfew will start at eight at night.

President Danilo Medina establishes in his decree 266-20 that the curfew is from Monday to Friday from 7:00 pm to 5:00 am and on Saturdays and Sundays from 5:00 pm to 5:00 am in the following demarcations:

1) Santo Domingo
2) National District
3) Santiago
4) San Cristóbal
5) La Vega
6) Puerto Plata
7) Duarte
8) San Pedro de Macorís
9) La Romana
10) San Juan de la Maguana
11) La Altagracia
12) Azua
13) Monsignor Nouel
14) Sánchez Ramírez
15) María Trinidad Sánchez

• Meanwhile, the curfew will be every day of the week from 8:00 pm to 5:00 am at:

1) Espaillat
2) Peravia
3) Barahona
4) Monte Plata
5) Valverde
6) Hermanas Mirabal
7) Monte Cristi
8) Samaná
9) Bahoruco
10) Hato Mayor
11) El Seibo
12) Dajabón
13) Santiago Rodríguez
14) San José de Ocoa
15) Elías Piña
16) Independence
17) Pedernales

• The curfew will be effective as of July 21 of the current year for a period of twenty (20) days, at the end of which the measure will be reviewed based on the epidemiological evolution of COVID-19 in the country.

• The mandatory use of a mask in public places and in private places for public use is ratified as an essential measure to control the spread of COVID-19, whose non-compliance will be sanctioned with the provisions established by Law no. 42-01. General of Health, of March 8, 2001.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 21, 2020, 07:47:28 AM
Comical.   I sent a voice message to the Dominican who owns Aris restaurant on the beach #67.   I asked him if he was going to be open today?  It's Tuesday July 21.    I asked him if he got any information or instructions on whether or not he can open?    All he said is he is shopping right now ( meaning for food ), and that he "heard" that the tourist section was going to be open.   

Nothing official,  just saying what he heard.   A local voluntarily giving a source of information,  is just not done here unless you drag the information out of them.     Worse is foreigners who accept the "I heard" answer and run with it to tell everybody something unconfirmed.   

All I got out of him, is that he is going to open today on the beach, unless something or someone says otherwise.    BTW, his food is pretty good.  Along with Mofongo King #74, Jorge Mayra restaurant #64.   I also like Fast Freddies way down in the #160's.    Once The Tree House reopens,  that spot is one of my favorites.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: ToToMarauder on July 21, 2020, 08:01:19 AM
damn!!! here we go again
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 21, 2020, 08:09:12 AM
There are a few people who still are unaware that there is a curfew starting tonight at 7pm.   Some people think it means the businesses are closing at 7pm.   And that once they close you can casually make it home or to your hotel.   Not the case.  You have to be indoors where you intend to stay the night, not in transit. 

Im saying this because, many guys currently in the DR were not here during our lock down and curfew.   So they may not know how this curfew is implemented. 

Additionally,  do not get caught out after 7PM ( if that is your curfew time ).   You will be arrested ( forget propinas to the cops, it may not work ).  Any vehicle/motor bike you are using will be confiscated.   If they do like they did before, the vehicle will be returned after the curfew is over.  In August or whenever they say it's over.     

During our previous curfew those detained were not released immediately in the morning.   The authorities made them clean outdoors before releasing them.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: KingPOP on July 21, 2020, 09:02:17 AM
My Facebook was full of videos of Dominicans scrambling to their gates when the police would pop up on the block during the last curfew lol. I hope the guys down there understand what’s starting today.

This is one of the funnier ones. I like that the police let you live if you are able get away lmao
https://youtu.be/cyX1-PjareU (https://youtu.be/cyX1-PjareU)

Another with a lady hopping off her moto and running in the house. Cops took her moto ????
https://streamable.com/cwa8l2 (https://streamable.com/cwa8l2)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DaManHawaii on July 21, 2020, 12:36:55 PM
Everyone is prepared for the early lockdown. That means most restraunts will close around 6 to give there employees time to get home.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on July 21, 2020, 02:25:06 PM
Can anyone on the street these days tell me where to find good eats and best scenery passing by to select from?
BTW thanks for the advise on bringing a cart through STI, ????.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on July 21, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
My Facebook was full of videos of Dominicans scrambling to their gates when the police would pop up on the block during the last curfew lol. I hope the guys down there understand what’s starting today.

This is one of the funnier ones. I like that the police let you live if you are able get away lmao
https://youtu.be/cyX1-PjareU (https://youtu.be/cyX1-PjareU)

Another with a lady hopping off her moto and running in the house. Cops took her moto ????
https://streamable.com/cwa8l2 (https://streamable.com/cwa8l2)


That shit was hilarious
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 21, 2020, 05:26:36 PM
I got to Sosua beach at 1:30pm today Tuesday July 21.  I just got home at 6:21pm.   Everything was the same as before since the beach reopened July 1st.   Dining, walking, lounging, swimming.    Restaurants closed by 6pm, and most beach chairs and umbrellas started to be stowed away before 6.    Cestur and PN police on the beach but not much interaction or concern with how people were enjoying their day.   Beach had a nice crowd but not an overwhelming attendance.  Not many people in the water, but enough there enjoying themselves.    Very few chicas came to the beach today.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 22, 2020, 06:39:52 PM
It's Wednesday July 22.    Went to PriceSmart in Santiago early.   Got back to Sosua,  and went to the beach around 1:30.     Had a great lunch and social connect.   A lot more chicas on the scene at the beach.   Mostly hanging around the open area by the cluster of restaurants where a lot of guys come to dine/chill.   People in the water enjoying the day.    Massage/grooming ladies out trying to get business.  Street vendors on the beach peddling their wares.   Ladies selling their fruits and veggies.   I left the beach around 5.    Normally after a day at the beach , I'll head to a venue up on the strip to socialize a little longer.   Like The Tree House 2. 

If i have a regular scheduled to come at night,  that will be worked out ahead.   Now that were back to this early curfew,  having company over it's back to the same challenge I dealt with before.  Mainly because I like my company coming over later.   And even if I do ST with a non regular,  it's not possible doing that later if the chica has to leave during curfew hours.   

All in all,  Ive been having a ball during it all.   One thing thats increased 10 fold.  My Amazon/Ebay online ordering.  Buying this, buying that.  Getting things repaired, doing maintenance, updating furniture etc.    Plus 2 buddies were nice enough to bring down 2 phones I had mailed to their houses in the states.  Customs in the DR will kill you with taxes on phones and other items over $200 USD.    Premium electronics and accessories are not readily available here.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on July 22, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
Thanks for the update. Great to hear that THE BEACH IS OPEN and that the sky hasn't fallen.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on July 22, 2020, 11:06:40 PM
What's the source of this,  if you don't mind me asking.?

And does this mean so far its not being implemented for 45 days as was being reported previously?

Curfew starts this Tuesday at 7 at night until 5 in the morning

 
SANTO DOMINGO.- President Danilo Medina decreed the curfew this Monday from seven in the evening to five in the morning, from Monday to Friday, and from five in the afternoon to five in the morning on Saturdays and Sundays.

It will come into effect as of this Tuesday and for a period of twenty days, at the end of which the measure will be reviewed based on the epidemiological evolution of COVID-19 in the Dominican Republic.

It establishes that on Saturdays and Sundays it will be from five in the afternoon to five in the morning.


 
The measure will cover the National District, the provinces of Santo Domingo, Santiago, San Cristóbal, San Pedro, La Vega, Duarte, among others.

It indicates that in other areas the curfew will start at eight at night.

President Danilo Medina establishes in his decree 266-20 that the curfew is from Monday to Friday from 7:00 pm to 5:00 am and on Saturdays and Sundays from 5:00 pm to 5:00 am in the following demarcations:

1) Santo Domingo
2) National District
3) Santiago
4) San Cristóbal
5) La Vega
6) Puerto Plata
7) Duarte
8) San Pedro de Macorís
9) La Romana
10) San Juan de la Maguana
11) La Altagracia
12) Azua
13) Monsignor Nouel
14) Sánchez Ramírez
15) María Trinidad Sánchez

• Meanwhile, the curfew will be every day of the week from 8:00 pm to 5:00 am at:

1) Espaillat
2) Peravia
3) Barahona
4) Monte Plata
5) Valverde
6) Hermanas Mirabal
7) Monte Cristi
8) Samaná
9) Bahoruco
10) Hato Mayor
11) El Seibo
12) Dajabón
13) Santiago Rodríguez
14) San José de Ocoa
15) Elías Piña
16) Independence
17) Pedernales

• The curfew will be effective as of July 21 of the current year for a period of twenty (20) days, at the end of which the measure will be reviewed based on the epidemiological evolution of COVID-19 in the country.

• The mandatory use of a mask in public places and in private places for public use is ratified as an essential measure to control the spread of COVID-19, whose non-compliance will be sanctioned with the provisions established by Law no. 42-01. General of Health, of March 8, 2001.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 23, 2020, 07:20:51 AM
What's the source of this,  if you don't mind me asking.?

And does this mean so far its not being implemented for 45 days as was being reported previously?


There are several online forums and news websites for information concerning the DR.  Dominican Today, Dr 1, Listin Diario, Sosua News, Hoy Digital, Puerto Plata Digital, AlMomento.net,Aerodom.com, Diario Libre to name a few.   

Here is a list I came up with just from doing a google search.     https://www.w3newspapers.com/dominican-republic/ (https://www.w3newspapers.com/dominican-republic/)    Side tip :   Some of the websites are in English language.  Others all Spanish.  If you use Chrome browser to surf these Dominican websites,  you can use the translate feature in the Chrome browser to translate the Spanish web page you are looking at into English.    You can set it to always translate Spanish to English.   I use Firefox browser primarily,  but will use Chrome when i want a web page translated.   


The state of emergency was approved, and is supposed to be for 45 days.  The thing is, a presidential election just took place.  The out going president and the incoming president will each take turns assuming SOE powers during the 45 day state of emergency.    President Medina has the 1st 20 days of power, and the new president the remaining 25 days.   It will be up to the new president and his admin to re evaluate the SOE progress and effectiveness. 

Conditions,orders and policy can be added or modified accordingly.  ( example change the curfew hours, or rescind the curfew ).    A request to extend the SOE can be implemented if deemed necessary.  That is what has been previously done in the last few months by the outgoing president/Govt.    If you have information to the contrary, please share.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 24, 2020, 10:15:54 AM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 24, 2020, 10:30:34 AM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   

Sounds like the DR doing what it always does..... inconsistent, flying by the seat of their pants, doing shit on a whim, putting their thumb up to see which way the wind is blowing. Follow the money....typical 3rd world shit.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on July 24, 2020, 10:39:09 AM
Police and politicians trying to have their cake and eat it. The business needs money, and tourist or not they can have covid-19 spread easily. So put on appearances for the public, but have unspoken agreements. That last 30 minute crowd can bring in half a months income considering that's only $150-200. Pretty sure it's an incentive.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 24, 2020, 11:26:22 AM
I forgot to report.   I saw the ladies that cook and operate at Big's Dees , leaving the beach.   I asked them if they were open, and they said yes.   I asked about today, and they said yes they will be open today Friday July 24.   .   Big Dee is around caseta #107 - #109 on the beach.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 24, 2020, 12:51:42 PM
@murano

The beauty you spoke of was not open to ST? I know she asked for $160 TLN, but did anyone counter? From your description she sounds like that rare gem that infrequently shows up in Sosua. With that type sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. In my experience an expat will pay the price and take the chick hostage. I’ve seen bad chicks like that get swooped up by expats never to be seen again. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on July 24, 2020, 01:41:51 PM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   

Where's "Kings"?  Is this a new place, or an old one that was just rechristened?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 24, 2020, 03:01:21 PM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   

Where's "Kings"?  Is this a new place, or an old one that was just rechristened?
Kings was formerly Rumba.   When it was Rumba it was under a different ownership and management.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 24, 2020, 03:48:47 PM
@murano

The beauty you spoke of was not open to ST? I know she asked for $160 TLN, but did anyone counter? From your description she sounds like that rare gem that infrequently shows up in Sosua. With that type sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. In my experience an expat will pay the price and take the chick hostage. I’ve seen bad chicks like that get swooped up by expats never to be seen again.
There are many ways to look at this.   Two main ones. A mongers perspective as you alluded to.   Or an abundance mindset perspective.   There may be others, but those are the two main ones.  That involves not elevating any woman just because of her looks.   After all she isnt going to be a wife or a girlfriend.   Just a hired sex provider.    Over the years men have their gems and it doesnt always involve how much but more about the chemistry they had.   That is what may distinguishes a woman as a rare gem IMO,  moreso than her looks.     With the chica in question all we saw was her looks,  nothing else.   

Next issue.  The timing.  If she were to stay ST there would need to be enough time to accomplish that.   Too late to hire her for ST.   Typically over the years I never recommended guys negotiate actual  time with chicas.   Example 1 or 2 hours.   I just say for a little while, not all night.   Its undersood its not all night.  Typically no chick is staying 2 hrs even if negotiated.  A dude busts in 45 min and most chicks are ready to leave.   

You negotiate for $100,
for ST and thats still too gotdam high, IMO.    As for expats snatching up gems.  Thats fine with me.  All of these women are like cross town buses to me.  I see the same buses regularly.  Im numb to beauty and pedestalizing women.   That lust I have makes its run, and eventually reality kicks in.  Shes just a female.  All with an expiration date.   All women , relationships or hookups are good for that moment, that season.   

Once the season changes,  that gem becomes a memory.      No reason for men these days to feel they missed out on a woman just because she is attractive.  Its different when you live here as opposed to vacationing.     Cant do short time if it’ s too close to the curfew.   Once he got that price, he was done.   No different than if he was quoted a high price for something else.  Sometimes once the shit comes out,  you dont want to be bothered.   Some guys have more patience,  because they really want the product.   I think willing to walk away,  without feeling one missed out is a good place to be, spiritually. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 24, 2020, 03:55:47 PM
@murano

Thank you for your response.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on July 24, 2020, 05:12:52 PM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   

Interesting observation.

One if the girls im. Taking to from SDQ sent ne this text earlier today:

<i>I found out about the flights and if everything here is open ... hotels, beaches and everything for tourists there is no curfew</i>

I asked her about the curfew and she said

<i>Yes but for you tourists there are no restrictions that I read</i>
 
Said she read it in the news. So maybe the tourist areas are not locked down as much?


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 25, 2020, 03:21:14 AM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   

Interesting observation.

One if the girls im. Taking to from SDQ sent ne this text earlier today:

<i>I found out about the flights and if everything here is open ... hotels, beaches and everything for tourists there is no curfew</i>

I asked her about the curfew and she said

<i>Yes but for you tourists there are no restrictions that I read</i>
 
Said she read it in the news. So maybe the tourist areas are not locked down as much?
I'm beginning to think there is some validity to that.   I wish you would have asked her for her news source,  since she said she "read" about it.    For the last two days,  Kings has been closed promptly before 7pm.   Flip Flop before 7.   Then once I continue down Pedro Clisante I get up to the liquor store and alley way where many of the girls stay, and a bunch of girls are hanging around, with that thirsty desperate look for a client in their eyes.   I swear, at that point, if a dude cant name his price,  there is something wrong.   

Im assuming the chicks can make a dash for the alley way if the cops come through on foot or pickup.   But also Im seeing people casually walking or driving as if they are trying to get somewhere ( just like I am ).   Now when I get close to the banks further down,  most stuff is closed but a few chicas are hanging next to and in front of the colmado.   Further down,  where the bars and quick outside food buffet,  is a bunch of people sitting around and inside the bars,  some people getting food.   

Now it is 645, so there is still time to do something last minute if you dont have far to go.   After all,  Im out as well on my way home on a pasola.   But Imma make it home.   For some reason many of these people dont look like they are going anywhere in the next 15 minutes.    So I've been wondering about the curfew.   Last time we had curfew,  the streets were dead dead dead.   There were no stragglers.   Of course there were no tourists , and not many chicas either.   

Ok so I get to Plan B, and Cheers, and for 2 evenings straight there are patrons in both establishments sitting and still drinking?    Then the next block is another colmado, and I see several expat looking guys sitting outside in chairs.    I assume they stay nearby or even up stairs above the colmado?   

So something is going on that I must have missed entirely.   Still most people seem to be on the move trying to get somewhere,  but it looks like some expats, locals and tourists at some venues in the residential areas are not being bothered as long as they arent in the streets moving around.    Cant say the same for "the strip" on Pedro Clisante.   That area and around the block towards New Garden, Bailee's etc, looks like a ghost town.    Hotel Sea Breeze has a bar,  and guests can post up there because they are off the street.     

Tonight, one of my regulars was asking can she come over tonight.  Her request came around 615pm.  Plenty of time to come from Charamico.   However Im hemming and hawing because Im with my buddies all day.   Was at the beach, now at The Tree House 2.  ( TTH for future reference ).    I saw her 6 days ago.  I could wait until Monday when we have the 7pm curfew.  Sat and Sun the curfew starts at 5pm. 

And I definitely dont want her coming over at 430pm and staying until the next morning.  Been there, done that,  one time during the last curfew.  Thats too gottdam long.   Dont get me wrong.  I enjoy my regulars company.  But I like being by myself too.  Realistically, if she felt she or any of my regulars needed to leave an hour after our night time session, that would be a good thing.   It would also resonate as a savings,  because I wont be paying them for staying all night, whether I hit it again or not.   Cant complain about 3500 for all night.   Last year when the exchange rate was around 53 I gave them all 3000 for TLN.  I upped it to 3500 on my own.    Of course I sometimes gave them a little more occasionally, and fed them when with me.   But I kept consistent for the most part. 

Ok, I break down and let her come, but that decision was made at 642pm.  With her supposedly coming from Charamico.   I say supposedly, because you cant trust nothing these chicks tell you.  I have a saying/phrase I use, and I use it often.   "According to her".     And what about the driver?   I guess moto drivers arent messed with much either because they are performing a service?   I usually suspect chicas with the same moto drivers, it's their boyfriend , husband or they have an arrangement.   Most of her drivers I see dropping her off dont collect money upon arriving. 

Some of her drivers have been Haitian,  ( she is Haitian ).  And she only asks me for moto money occasionally.    I dont get into her business,  Im glad most times she handles her own transpo.   And doesnt consistently ask for any extra money or trying to set me up to pay way above what the rate is, like many Dominican chicks have done to guys.   She leaves in the morning,  the same way she came.  Sweet and cheerful.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hunter_1 on July 25, 2020, 06:56:41 AM
Murano has the best on the ground reporting...thanks...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 25, 2020, 08:44:06 AM
Murano has the best on the ground reporting...thanks...
Thanks, but I wouldnt say the best.  I just might be one of a few who feel like sharing some thoughts from time to time while here in the DR/Sosua.   What motivates me somewhat is sometimes I smh seeing reports and guess work from guys on whats going on in Sosua and the DR, but they are on their computers, still in the states providing the reports.     

One in particular basically forewarned us here back in April , that expats in the DR were in imminent danger due to the pandemic.  That some signs were supposedly showing that the pandemic was causing people to lose it because they were poor and desperate.  The pandemic was going to cause so much financial devastation to the country overall.   I guess even regular locals would be turning to crime and begin robbing and killing expats.   Never mind the criminals,  thats their job to do that.   Even the local hair salon lady or the manager at the local gym would be so devastated financially, that even they would start robbing and killing expats.   

The individual had all kinds of justifications for why expats were in danger.   He said the DR was using models to measure what is likely to happen.  He was using his in country contacts, implying they were reliable sources feeding him razor sharp information.   Just like Mayor Willie telling Cerise Fairfax ( a Ytuber ) that Sosua beach was going to be closed.  And it turns out it wasnt.   All of the criminals in charge of robbing, killing and mayhem did not get the memo on what they were supposed to be doing for the last 5 or 6 months.   

All anybody has to do is sit back and let life play out.  Almost 4 months later, and none of the gloom and doom that was reported from stateside computers came true.   Nothing much out of the ordinary since the country was on lock down.   Was there an increase in crime during the lockdown and curfews?   Perhaps.   But were expats in any more danger than they were pre pandemic days?   The last 4 months says that was a NO.   

The last 4 months went relatively smooth.   If anything, there were more acts of crime going on with locals,  not necessarily with expats.   And still none of that meant it was pandemic related.    A night time curfew did not stop crime during night time or day time hours.    It's main job was to isolate people from spreading the virus.   The curfew was a bonus benefit that may have helped reduce the mobility of criminals.   But not necessarily designed to fight crime.   

Much much different than what happened in the states when George Floyd was killed.   When curfews were implemented in areas in the states (during that time ),  that was mostly to keep people off the street to avoid more property from being looted and destroyed.   

Now that we have a bunch of tourists here in the DR,  are there any tourists here now or who have left already who feel it's unsafe being here?   Did at anytime did they feel their life being threatened by financially destitute locals?    If so, please share.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 25, 2020, 09:01:23 AM
I was there for the two weeks before curfew, spending a lot of time in the barrios of Pop, Montellano, Gurabo by Santiago and a couple campos around Mao and Luperon. Not once, not even a hint of trouble was felt or seemed to appear near me or in my direction...a gringo with a new car.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 25, 2020, 11:25:30 AM
I was there for the two weeks before curfew, spending a lot of time in the barrios of Pop, Montellano, Gurabo by Santiago and a couple campos around Mao and Luperon. Not once, not even a hint of trouble was felt or seemed to appear near me or in my direction...a gringo with a new car.
Copy that!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 25, 2020, 06:33:52 PM
There seems to be some confusion on whether or not people can go into the water at Sosua beach.   For the last 3 days since the SOE and curfew began,  swimming at the beach has been un restricted.   

Chica and monger representation is picking up in Sosua overall.   Both showing up at the beaches, and Kings.   After the beach many make their way to Flip Flop or to Kings.   Chicas definitely to Kings in search of clients.   Many chicas are now occupying the cheap rooms and hotels in town.  Especially those close to the strip.   

I am not usually hanging around Kings that much.   What I see is in passing.  But it looks like the Politur and Nacional Police are specifically hanging around and targeting the area where Kings is.    They seem to be monitoring Kings to make sure they close down on time.    I watched Kings close before 7pm, and a bunch of people spilled out on all four corners trying to figure out what to do or where to go next.    Im looking at my watch and it's about 640pm.

WTF are they waiting for?   In 20 min everybody is supposed to be off the street.   At least that is what i thought.  Was the 7pm curfew changed to something else?   Because i couldnt see how everyone that i saw out and about was going to be off the street in the next 20 min.    Then on my way home i saw people still sitting in Plan B , Cheers Bar, and several other places was open?    So what am I missing here?   

Interesting observation.

One if the girls im. Taking to from SDQ sent ne this text earlier today:

<i>I found out about the flights and if everything here is open ... hotels, beaches and everything for tourists there is no curfew</i>

I asked her about the curfew and she said

<i>Yes but for you tourists there are no restrictions that I read</i>
 
Said she read it in the news. So maybe the tourist areas are not locked down as much?
I'm beginning to think there is some validity to that.   I wish you would have asked her for her news source,  since she said she "read" about it.    For the last two days,  Kings has been closed promptly before 7pm.   Flip Flop before 7.   Then once I continue down Pedro Clisante I get up to the liquor store and alley way where many of the girls stay, and a bunch of girls are hanging around, with that thirsty desperate look for a client in their eyes.   I swear, at that point, if a dude cant name his price,  there is something wrong.   

Im assuming the chicks can make a dash for the alley way if the cops come through on foot or pickup.   But also Im seeing people casually walking or driving as if they are trying to get somewhere ( just like I am ).   Now when I get close to the banks further down,  most stuff is closed but a few chicas are hanging next to and in front of the colmado.   Further down,  where the bars and quick outside food buffet,  is a bunch of people sitting around and inside the bars,  some people getting food.   

Now it is 645, so there is still time to do something last minute if you dont have far to go.   After all,  Im out as well on my way home on a pasola.   But Imma make it home.   For some reason many of these people dont look like they are going anywhere in the next 15 minutes.    So I've been wondering about the curfew.   Last time we had curfew,  the streets were dead dead dead.   There were no stragglers.   Of course there were no tourists , and not many chicas either.   

Ok so I get to Plan B, and Cheers, and for 2 evenings straight there are patrons in both establishments sitting and still drinking?    Then the next block is another colmado, and I see several expat looking guys sitting outside in chairs.    I assume they stay nearby or even up stairs above the colmado?   

So something is going on that I must have missed entirely.   Still most people seem to be on the move trying to get somewhere,  but it looks like some expats, locals and tourists at some venues in the residential areas are not being bothered as long as they arent in the streets moving around.    Cant say the same for "the strip" on Pedro Clisante.   That area and around the block towards New Garden, Bailee's etc, looks like a ghost town.    Hotel Sea Breeze has a bar,  and guests can post up there because they are off the street.     

Tonight, one of my regulars was asking can she come over tonight.  Her request came around 615pm.  Plenty of time to come from Charamico.   However Im hemming and hawing because Im with my buddies all day.   Was at the beach, now at The Tree House 2.  ( TTH for future reference ).    I saw her 6 days ago.  I could wait until Monday when we have the 7pm curfew.  Sat and Sun the curfew starts at 5pm. 

And I definitely dont want her coming over at 430pm and staying until the next morning.  Been there, done that,  one time during the last curfew.  Thats too gottdam long.   Dont get me wrong.  I enjoy my regulars company.  But I like being by myself too.  Realistically, if she felt she or any of my regulars needed to leave an hour after our night time session, that would be a good thing.   It would also resonate as a savings,  because I wont be paying them for staying all night, whether I hit it again or not.   Cant complain about 3500 for all night.   Last year when the exchange rate was around 53 I gave them all 3000 for TLN.  I upped it to 3500 on my own.    Of course I sometimes gave them a little more occasionally, and fed them when with me.   But I kept consistent for the most part. 

Ok, I break down and let her come, but that decision was made at 642pm.  With her supposedly coming from Charamico.   I say supposedly, because you cant trust nothing these chicks tell you.  I have a saying/phrase I use, and I use it often.   "According to her".     And what about the driver?   I guess moto drivers arent messed with much either because they are performing a service?   I usually suspect chicas with the same moto drivers, it's their boyfriend , husband or they have an arrangement.   Most of her drivers I see dropping her off dont collect money upon arriving. 

Some of her drivers have been Haitian,  ( she is Haitian ).  And she only asks me for moto money occasionally.    I dont get into her business,  Im glad most times she handles her own transpo.   And doesnt consistently ask for any extra money or trying to set me up to pay way above what the rate is, like many Dominican chicks have done to guys.   She leaves in the morning,  the same way she came.  Sweet and cheerful.
Wonder if that hatians name is kenia or blondyne a tall big booty chica,, ha ha,, Oh i forgot guess it not your girl but your turn,,,For sure on the moto guy  maby novio, or realative,,they have to keep baby daddy happy  haha !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 25, 2020, 07:20:19 PM
Wonder if that hatians name is kenia or blondyne a tall big booty chica,, ha ha,, Oh i forgot guess it not your girl but your turn,,,For sure on the moto guy  maby novio, or realative,,they have to keep baby daddy happy  haha !
This chica is a flacca Haitiana.  Not tall, nor has a big booty.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 25, 2020, 07:29:14 PM
It's now almost 830 pm Saturday night.  Today was our 1st day of our 5pm curfew since the new SOE/curfew.   I didnt even leave my apt today.  Kept myself busy after my company left early this morning.  I wonder how guys here on vacation feel about it and dealing with it?    And then got to do another 5pm curfew tomorrow?       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PMIdump on July 26, 2020, 10:38:40 AM
Probably depends where you are staying and if you have everything you need. Conditions can be great or horrible.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 26, 2020, 05:29:55 PM
Sunday July 26,  lunch on the beach.   Same open area was full of people.   Mostly tourists, expats and chicas looking for clients.  Considering that today is usually family day for locals ( and Dominican Father's Day ),  there were some locals ( not in the game ) at the beach, but no where near the volume of locals a typical Sunday would bring.   Most of everybody out today, yesterday and the day before  are the same people we see each and every day.  Just dressed differently. 

I saw one of my infrequent regulars at the beach with her kids.  I didnt know her son was that tall.   I respectfully acknowledged her, and kept it moving.   She has good product, but I'm used to connecting with her late late night.   We'll both wait until there is no curfew.   

It seems the usual male hustlers are hard at work on the beach, and elsewhere.  I see one of them ( a Haitian Ytuber, Funky Fingers I think he calls himself ) head to head consulting with a table of chicas.  Most likely trying hard to convince them that he  can help them secure clients.    Whether it was working remains to be seen.  I can see how some chicas just might bite under the circumstances.   

Left the beach at 4pm, sat in a car across from the Chez Montreal on the fast food window side.   Just watching the scene.  Kings was letting out, and people spilled out on all four corners.   Some guys were coupled up, and were making it to their "safe house".    Some getting food before bouncing.   Others looking for potential bargains.

A lot of scrambling going on.  This is the 11th hour.  Chicas desperate for a client, and it looking like it aint going to happen for most of them.     That bar before Europa, had a bunch of expat guys up in there.   I guess the police dont bother anybody up in there?   Grease palming the police possibly?      A bright sunny day, and having to be off the street at 5pm sucks.   But Ive been here before.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Lurklongtime on July 26, 2020, 06:07:02 PM
Great insight honestly speaking!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on July 27, 2020, 06:30:18 AM
Murano has the best on the ground reporting...thanks...

+1
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on July 27, 2020, 06:55:17 AM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 27, 2020, 07:56:15 AM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 27, 2020, 09:03:19 AM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 27, 2020, 09:11:40 AM
It's the toto apocalypse!
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 27, 2020, 09:17:35 AM
BTW for those in country, driving or a passenger.   It's best to have your mask close by or on your face in certain areas.  Sometimes cops will be looking inside the car to see if it's driver and passengers are wearing their masks.  I know, ridiculous.   But where are we?  The Dominican Republic.   

I recall a check point on my way to Jarabacoa the end of last month.  A checkpoint was set up about 3 miles before we hit the town.   I had my mask under my chin, my buddy to my right, the same. And my dude in the back in his hand or his pocket.   The cop told us to put our masks on our faces properly, and he wanted to see who was in the back.  My dude in the back slipped his on when he saw we had to put ours up on our faces.   

Once we were compliant,  the cop let us drive on.   Good thing for us.  My buddy in the back had forgot his mask when I picked him up for the ride.   I insisted we go back and get it, since we hadnt got far from his place.   If he hadnt had his mask in the car,  that stop might have been a "you, pull over there" kinda thing. 

So play it safe, keep a mask handy and ready to sport even in a car.  Driving or as a passenger.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 27, 2020, 09:39:16 AM
I agree with that. Lucky for me, the green eyed lady that sells shit on the street always hits me up to buy something. Well I bought some masks just to give her some business but it turned out to help me when my chica wanted to go in the store and didnt have a mask but I those in the glove box. Other than that I didn't encounter any checkpoints while driving until the 20th of July.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PTJD on July 27, 2020, 10:12:42 AM
It's the toto apocalypse!
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Papi, you got her digits and math??   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 27, 2020, 11:03:20 AM
LoL! It's just a pic off the internet. She's fine but definitely not Papi's type.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on July 27, 2020, 08:06:13 PM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 27, 2020, 09:15:37 PM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?
No beach for me today.   I stayed close to the nest after 1pm.   So I wasnt out to see anything going on past 1pm.  As far as Im concerned,  PC by Kings in all directions within 3 blocks was probably dead at 7pm.   Even if there are stragglers,  it's not a free for all.   At 7 you are supposed to be off the street unless you have credentials to be out.   

For example.   The Tree House 2 at Hotel Las Palmeras operates past the curfew for the guests staying there.   The employees have passes or ID's to use when they are on their way home.   Anybody unauthorized out and about is just individuals taking a chance.   

Im sure the bar across from Europa, and the other bar at the buffet next to it,  had patrons sitting outside and inside.  How are they managing that?  I have no clue.     One thing I do know.   Chicas got to make money.  They may be willing to take the risk of moving about from client to client during curfew hours.   Including the motoconcho drivers.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on July 27, 2020, 10:25:49 PM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?
No beach for me today.   I stayed close to the nest after 1pm.   So I wasnt out to see anything going on past 1pm.  As far as Im concerned,  PC by Kings in all directions within 3 blocks was probably dead at 7pm.   Even if there are stragglers,  it's not a free for all.   At 7 you are supposed to be off the street unless you have credentials to be out.   

For example.   The Tree House 2 at Hotel Las Palmeras operates past the curfew for the guests staying there.   The employees have passes or ID's to use when they are on their way home.   Anybody unauthorized out and about is just individuals taking a chance.   

Im sure the bar across from Europa, and the other bar at the buffet next to it,  had patrons sitting outside and inside.  How are they managing that?  I have no clue.     One thing I do know.   Chicas got to make money.  They may be willing to take the risk of moving about from client to client during curfew hours.   Including the motoconcho drivers.

Ok thanks for that review. I will have to think hard about this especially now that we must furnish a recent negative virus test. Lol, I was shocked when I found out a couple weeks they were not requiring this so I got in n got out just in time and now this! ????????‍♂️
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 28, 2020, 08:01:54 AM
The whole thing sounds like a loose curfew. Cops will probably accept bribes and if you have official medical ID from a Hospital you are now essential personnel and exempt from the curfew restrictions! Haha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on July 28, 2020, 01:37:08 PM
The whole thing sounds like a loose curfew. Cops will probably accept bribes and if you have official medical ID from a Hospital you are now essential personnel and exempt from the curfew restrictions! Haha

I hope so because I’m coming.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 28, 2020, 08:03:38 PM
It's Tuesday July 28.   Got to the beach about 1230,  My buddy and I had lunch in the open area.   We had a couple of great fresh fruit drinks with a touch of rum at Fast Freddies Caseta #163 and #164 

People swimming and enjoying.  The beach started off real slow.   It got very cloudy once at the beach, and within 30 minutes, the sun came out, and more and more people came.   The open area was not crowded today.   And this is the 1st time in a while that I walked the length of the beach.   I'd say about 80% of the businesses along the beach were open.  Big D was closed today.   The Tree House is still closed.  They are almost finished renovation of their new kitchen.   

Valero restaurant was open.   Some other unknown restaurants going towards Charamico were open.  Probably regular customers were enjoying.   Big Mama was open,  dead.   Fast Freddies had 4 tables occupied.   Freddie has good food, good service, pleasant attitude and makes some great drinks.   Not much chica foot traffic passing by,  but you can see that the beach is a major thoroughfare for people going from one side of town to the other.   

Later,  we drive around and around checking out the scene.  Finally we park almost near Sosua Lights ( it's closed ) and walk back to Kings.   The Police Nacionals are on a mission.  There had to be about 4 - 2 passenger motobikes, and several pickup trucks of police actively picking up chicas off the street right in the vicinity of Kings.   Were talking about a dozen or more right in the street "IN SEARCH OF CHICAS".     

We tried to determine why they were picking them up?   Were they not wearing a mask?  No that wasnt it.   2 Dominican chicas standing together near the corner ( where Chez Montreal is ) were wearing masks.    Police came up behind them,  and nicely escorted them to the pickup and drove away.   Ten minutes earlier, a tall Haitian chica was grabbed and placed in the truck.  She didnt have a mask on.   

This time I started paying attention to the bars, food places down there near Europa, Plan B and Cheers.   All of these places were wrapping it up around 645pm.   I guess the previous days when I passed,  they were probably about to shut down, but I didnt get to see it,  since I needed to get off the street myself.   The guys that were in the bar across from Europa were now down the street that side street from Eurpoa sitting outside in front of their residential bldg.   

The way it looks,  motos and cars still scrambling about are just mofos that dont give a shit.   Also im confirming what someone else shared, that some chicas use certain taxis that have exemption from mobility to get food and deliver it,  and even move them about.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on July 29, 2020, 12:50:52 AM
^ Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on July 29, 2020, 12:52:03 AM
It's Tuesday July 28.   Got to the beach about 1230,  My buddy and I had lunch in the open area.   We had a couple of great fresh fruit drinks with a touch of rum at Fast Freddies Caseta #163 and #164 

People swimming and enjoying.  The beach started off real slow.   It got very cloudy once at the beach, and within 30 minutes, the sun came out, and more and more people came.   The open area was not crowded today.   And this is the 1st time in a while that I walked the length of the beach.   I'd say about 80% of the businesses along the beach were open.  Big D was closed today.   The Tree House is still closed.  They are almost finished renovation of their new kitchen.   

Valero restaurant was open.   Some other unknown restaurants going towards Charamico were open.  Probably regular customers were enjoying.   Big Mama was open,  dead.   Fast Freddies had 4 tables occupied.   Freddie has good food, good service, pleasant attitude and makes some great drinks.   Not much chica foot traffic passing by,  but you can see that the beach is a major thoroughfare for people going from one side of town to the other.   

Valero is one of my two go-to spots on the beach.  Been rockin with them since '14.

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Later,  we drive around and around checking out the scene.  Finally we park almost near Sosua Lights ( it's closed ) and walk back to Kings.   The Police Nacionals are on a mission.  There had to be about 4 - 2 passenger motobikes, and several pickup trucks of police actively picking up chicas off the street right in the vicinity of Kings.   Were talking about a dozen or more right in the street "IN SEARCH OF CHICAS".     

We tried to determine why they were picking them up?   Were they not wearing a mask?  No that wasnt it.   2 Dominican chicas standing together near the corner ( where Chez Montreal is ) were wearing masks.    Police came up behind them,  and nicely escorted them to the pickup and drove away.   Ten minutes earlier, a tall Haitian chica was grabbed and placed in the truck.  She didnt have a mask on.   

This time I started paying attention to the bars, food places down there near Europa, Plan B and Cheers.   All of these places were wrapping it up around 645pm.   I guess the previous days when I passed,  they were probably about to shut down, but I didnt get to see it,  since I needed to get off the street myself.   The guys that were in the bar across from Europa were now down the street that side street from Eurpoa sitting outside in front of their residential bldg.   

The way it looks,  motos and cars still scrambling about are just mofos that dont give a shit.   Also im confirming what someone else shared, that some chicas use certain taxis that have exemption from mobility to get food and deliver it,  and even move them about.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 29, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Ok Ive been putting off getting a regular massage for over 2 yrs here in Sosua.   I enjoyed a bunch while abroad in Asia.  Very cheap too.   I finally break down to pursue getting one.  I go to the last place I went here in Sosua, which was Karina's.   The masseuse was there that I had before.   I asked her,  how much for a massage?   She said 800 pesos for a medium massage and 1000 pesos if I want a firm massage.    What???     When I used to go there, pricing was never like that?   It was a straight 700 pesos.   And you let them know how you want it.   Medium or firm.  Go easy here if you had pain in an area. 

Now I dont have a problem paying 800 pesos for a massage,  but I am not about to be set up to be bamboozled over the intensity of the massage Im paying for.   Been there,  done that!.    A few years ago,  there were some girls in the middle of the block across from Jolly Rogers offering massages.   They had a binder showing the prices for a massage.   I think it was soft, medium and firm.   What happens is, you select the medium massage which was 700 pesos then.   

During the massage the chick is wiping lotion and/or oil on you.   She aint really massaging you,  just wiping.   Of course you the customer will tell them that what they are doing is too soft.  They will reply,  "oh you want more firm sir?".   You say "yes".   Now they start giving you a regular medium massage, and once done will charge 900 pesos ( 200 pesos more ),  which is the price of the firm massage.   Hey you asked for it, now they expect you to pay. 

So when my old masseuse at Karina's tells me today that they have different prices depending on the intensity of the massage,  I was instantly reminded of what could happen if I fall for that crap again.   

I went back to the car, and the masseuse went back to her seat to finish watching the world go by.    I drove around the block and parked before Sosua Lights.   I see the masseuse lady watching me park,  and I go into the plaza right there to go upstairs to Kika Massage.   Kika is actually my favorite place to go for a relaxing massage.   I stopped going there way back when because they were always busy and in demand.   So I settled on Karina as an alternative.   

There was only one masseuse there, and she was simply chillin.   I hadnt been here in a while either,  so of course I have to get the details straight before I commit.   She says,  800 pesos for an hour massage.   Ok lets go!.   The massage was just as good today as it was from my previous visits.   No bullshit about different prices for medium or firm.  Just a nice relaxing massage.   Check it out.   3 yrs ago the exchange rate was maybe 49 to 1 or less, and the price for a massage was 700 pesos then.   Fast forward to today.  The massage is 800 pesos but the exchange rate now is at least 58 to 1. 

Technically it's cheaper today ( in USD ) than what I paid 3 yrs ago.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 29, 2020, 05:28:26 PM
One of my buddies went to get a massage across from Hotel Sea Breeze the other day.   They had different prices for their massages too.  Medium one price, and Firm another.   He requested the medium massage for 600 pesos, and they did the lotion wiping BS on him.    Once you ask for them to change up,  they put you in the firm massage category and charge you accordingly.   This is so dumb.  Instead of trying to build a client base.   Their objective is to get the most they can get per session.   Who in their right mind would come back for another massage,  or even recommend the place to their friends?   

But on the other hand,  Im thinking logical and like a foreigner/expat.   In the states,  a massage may cost upwards of $65 to 100 dollars for an hour massage, plus generous tip.  And these people know that.  So a guy paying 900 to 1000 pesos for a regular massage ( with them pretending that you are paying for a firm massage ) isnt looking at it as them getting over.   In his mind he is the one winning.      I take that dumb comment back.  These muggs are sharp.   Because in Sosua their clients are mostly if not always foreigners not locals.    Most of their clients are not going to mind paying 1000 pesos for a massage.   When I was in Cartagena in February an hour massage was equivalent to $45.   I passed.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 29, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
One of my buddies went to get a massage across from Hotel Sea Breeze the other day.   They had different prices for their massages too.  Medium one price, and Firm another.   He requested the medium massage for 600 pesos, and they did the lotion wiping BS on him.    Once you ask for them to change up,  they put you in the firm massage category and charge you accordingly.   This is so dumb.  Instead of trying to build a client base.   Their objective is to get the most they can get per session.   Who in their right mind would come back for another massage,  or even recommend the place to their friends?   

But on the other hand,  Im thinking logical and like a foreigner/expat.   In the states,  a massage may cost upwards of $65 to 100 dollars for an hour massage, plus generous tip.  And these people know that.  So a guy paying 900 to 1000 pesos for a regular massage ( with them pretending that you are paying for a firm massage ) isnt looking at it as them getting over.   In his mind he is the one winning.      I take that dumb comment back.  These muggs are sharp.   Because in Sosua their clients are mostly if not always foreigners not locals.    Most of their clients are not going to mind paying 1000 pesos for a massage.   When I was in Cartagena in February an hour massage was equivalent to $45.   I passed.

I heard about that medium/hard shit....will never get me like that.

My homeboy got one of those chicks at the parlor across from Seabreeze to come to his room. He says she gave a great massage with her products and f--ked his brains out for basically the price of ST!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 29, 2020, 06:18:04 PM
One of my buddies went to get a massage across from Hotel Sea Breeze the other day.   They had different prices for their massages too.  Medium one price, and Firm another.   He requested the medium massage for 600 pesos, and they did the lotion wiping BS on him.    Once you ask for them to change up,  they put you in the firm massage category and charge you accordingly.   This is so dumb.  Instead of trying to build a client base.   Their objective is to get the most they can get per session.   Who in their right mind would come back for another massage,  or even recommend the place to their friends?   

But on the other hand,  Im thinking logical and like a foreigner/expat.   In the states,  a massage may cost upwards of $65 to 100 dollars for an hour massage, plus generous tip.  And these people know that.  So a guy paying 900 to 1000 pesos for a regular massage ( with them pretending that you are paying for a firm massage ) isnt looking at it as them getting over.   In his mind he is the one winning.      I take that dumb comment back.  These muggs are sharp.   Because in Sosua their clients are mostly if not always foreigners not locals.    Most of their clients are not going to mind paying 1000 pesos for a massage.   When I was in Cartagena in February an hour massage was equivalent to $45.   I passed.

I heard about that medium/hard shit....will never get me like that.

My homeboy got one of those chicks at the parlor across from Seabreeze to come to his room. He says she gave a great massage with her products and f--ked his brains out for basically the price of ST!
Sounds like a good "Happy Ending"   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 29, 2020, 11:34:10 PM
One of my buddies went to get a massage across from Hotel Sea Breeze the other day.   They had different prices for their massages too.  Medium one price, and Firm another.   He requested the medium massage for 600 pesos, and they did the lotion wiping BS on him.    Once you ask for them to change up,  they put you in the firm massage category and charge you accordingly.   This is so dumb.  Instead of trying to build a client base.   Their objective is to get the most they can get per session.   Who in their right mind would come back for another massage,  or even recommend the place to their friends?   

But on the other hand,  Im thinking logical and like a foreigner/expat.   In the states,  a massage may cost upwards of $65 to 100 dollars for an hour massage, plus generous tip.  And these people know that.  So a guy paying 900 to 1000 pesos for a regular massage ( with them pretending that you are paying for a firm massage ) isnt looking at it as them getting over.   In his mind he is the one winning.      I take that dumb comment back.  These muggs are sharp.   Because in Sosua their clients are mostly if not always foreigners not locals.    Most of their clients are not going to mind paying 1000 pesos for a massage.   When I was in Cartagena in February an hour massage was equivalent to $45.   I passed.

I heard about that medium/hard shit....will never get me like that.

My homeboy got one of those chicks at the parlor across from Seabreeze to come to his room. He says she gave a great massage with her products and f--ked his brains out for basically the price of ST!
Bingo  Sirs just go for the regular masssage,,,  decline the happy ending  and the big up sell,, most not all will be willing to pop over to the hotel for full service and more,, many trips back   this older Granny type would give you a massage or  manicure pedicure,,  Same thing after some small talk  she said she was game to stop by the hotel think it was the old ,hotel alicia across from El rancho,,  Funny  with in 5 minutes i had my face buried in her box,,, led to a great session,,, next day i repeated,, she stayed Lt overnight,,,  Massage co shower The works,, This granny could suck and f--k like a porn star,, dont knock grannys !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on July 30, 2020, 01:11:06 AM
I get massages everyday im there, different spots,never had the upsale, yall going to the wrong spots
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on July 30, 2020, 02:59:47 AM
These real massages or since bs type hoping to just get you to the happy ending and move on to the next guy?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 30, 2020, 04:51:59 AM
These real massages or since bs type hoping to just get you to the happy ending and move on to the next guy?
I only go to regular massage places.   If I want to get Freaky Deaky, I hire my own providers to get the job done.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiChulo7 on July 30, 2020, 12:29:46 PM
One of my buddies went to get a massage across from Hotel Sea Breeze the other day.   They had different prices for their massages too.  Medium one price, and Firm another.   He requested the medium massage for 600 pesos, and they did the lotion wiping BS on him.    Once you ask for them to change up,  they put you in the firm massage category and charge you accordingly.   This is so dumb.  Instead of trying to build a client base.   Their objective is to get the most they can get per session.   Who in their right mind would come back for another massage,  or even recommend the place to their friends?   

But on the other hand,  Im thinking logical and like a foreigner/expat.   In the states,  a massage may cost upwards of $65 to 100 dollars for an hour massage, plus generous tip.  And these people know that.  So a guy paying 900 to 1000 pesos for a regular massage ( with them pretending that you are paying for a firm massage ) isnt looking at it as them getting over.   In his mind he is the one winning.      I take that dumb comment back.  These muggs are sharp.   Because in Sosua their clients are mostly if not always foreigners not locals.    Most of their clients are not going to mind paying 1000 pesos for a massage.   When I was in Cartagena in February an hour massage was equivalent to $45.   I passed.

I heard about that medium/hard shit....will never get me like that.

My homeboy got one of those chicks at the parlor across from Seabreeze to come to his room. He says she gave a great massage with her products and f--ked his brains out for basically the price of ST!
Sounds like a good "Happy Ending"

I haven’t experienced the up-charging bs but I know the massage was pretty mediocre! However, I ended up smashing/wifing her up the rest of my trip so the massages got better in the apartment.

If u go back to CTG inbox me, I’ve got a really got masseuse there!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on July 30, 2020, 03:26:48 PM
I went to the sport across the street from Sea Breeze.  There was one girl sitting in a chair reading a book, she asked if I wanted a massage so I asked if it was "Completa".  She gave me a weird look and said of course.    I declined and went to my regular HE spot, up the street from Sea Breeze, at the corner where the motos and the haitains stores.  To the right, heading towards Alicea hotel, there is a small massage place.  I just skip the BS massage and tell them to work on the dick for 1000P.

If you want a REAL massage:

Right down the street from city lights, near the fruit stand guy.  Older dominican woman with huge tits, her name is Karina.  Her massages will change your life!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 30, 2020, 03:50:51 PM
I went to the sport across the street from Sea Breeze.  There was one girl sitting in a chair reading a book, she asked if I wanted a massage so I asked if it was "Completa".  She gave me a weird look and said of course.    I declined and went to my regular HE spot, up the street from Sea Breeze, at the corner where the motos and the haitains stores.  To the right, heading towards Alicea hotel, there is a small massage place.  I just skip the BS massage and tell them to work on the dick for 1000P.

If you want a REAL massage:

Right down the street from city lights, near the fruit stand guy.  Older dominican woman with huge tits, her name is Karina.  Her massages will change your life!
When was the last time you went to Karina's for a massage?   When I went to her place yesterday,  Betty and another masseuse was on duty.  She has taken care of me several times in recent years.  Dont know if Karina was around yesterday.  Betty is the one that told me they have different prices for a medium or a firm massage.   

Since that is Karina's business, then Karina and her staff are all giving people the new pricing and massage policy.   When Betty told me one price for medium and another for firm,  I declined and went to Kika instead.   Im sure Betty knows I live in the DR,  so she wasnt doing a bait and switch on me as if I was a newbie.   

Today Thursday July 30th,  I stopped by Kika to show my buddy, who wanted a massage.   Kika was closed.   There is a major storm hitting the DR right now.    It's getting worse and worse.   So I suspect Kika Massage never opened at all today.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on July 30, 2020, 09:57:35 PM
For Professional massages:

You have kaka,

Junilsa salon( also get a manicure and pedicure for 1000 pesos),

M&M (near the bank and orange center),

Prima (leave new garden going towards Baileys, make a right at the intersection and its on the right)

All of them use scented lotion, where here in the states they use unscented, one of the lotions they use smells terrible, so ask to smell the lotion first, so they use one that smells okay.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on July 31, 2020, 01:40:15 AM
I went to the sport across the street from Sea Breeze.  There was one girl sitting in a chair reading a book, she asked if I wanted a massage so I asked if it was "Completa".  She gave me a weird look and said of course.    I declined and went to my regular HE spot, up the street from Sea Breeze, at the corner where the motos and the haitains stores.  To the right, heading towards Alicea hotel, there is a small massage place.  I just skip the BS massage and tell them to work on the dick for 1000P.

If you want a REAL massage:

Right down the street from city lights, near the fruit stand guy.  Older dominican woman with huge tits, her name is Karina.  Her massages will change your life!

I think that's the one that has that thick lightskinned chick always sitting outside. 

I always see her just sitting down, so i'm not sure how her body looks, but she has a cute face.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 09:25:32 AM
For Professional massages:

You have kaka,

Junilsa salon( also get a manicure and pedicure for 1000 pesos),

M&M (near the bank and orange center),

Prima (leave new garden going towards Baileys, make a right at the intersection and its on the right)

All of them use scented lotion, where here in the states they use unscented, one of the lotions they use smells terrible, so ask to smell the lotion first, so they use one that smells okay.
It may be a good idea to get an update on your info.   Just as I found out that Karina changed their massage policy and pricing. 

1) Do you mean Kika massage ( not Kaka?)  Kika is 800 pesos now.  The price is actually cheaper now if you take in consideration the difference between the old USD to peso rate back then vs todays exchange rate.    Your ahead.     

2) Check your intel on M&M massage, did they survive the lock down?  Are they still there?  The plaza you are referring to does not have the Orange center anymore,  in fact the bldg in question changed to Altice maybe a year ago ( was Orange ), but they moved out of there months ago.   That place is vacant.     Altice is now over near Sosua Inn right by the parking lot entrance ( side of Bailee's rest ).   I'm spelling it Bailee's because that is what they now have posted on the property.  I recall it being Bailey's too, but I guess not anymore. 

3) Junilsa :  maybe a price check is in order there too?  This place might have changed up since your last visit.   
4) Prima is the massage spot across from Hotel Seabreeze that my buddy went to initially with the bullshit lotion wipe, instead of giving a real massage.  Then they tried to up sell him for a regular massage for more money. 

Point being,  a few things may have changed since your last visit.  All of these places need to be re evaluated for their service, price and value.   Businesses in Sosua took a huge hit , and lost a lot of business during the lock down and curfews.   So one can or should expect that some businesses/locals have devised ways to make up for their losses in cunning ways.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hunter_1 on July 31, 2020, 09:34:35 AM
Speaking of Junisa....I was there this past winter.    The owners daughter is a stunner...she is legal...18 or 19.   

Any of you dogs get her after hours?   She started a massage on me then did the ole my co-worker finish massage....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on July 31, 2020, 11:32:18 AM
Does anybody have any photos of these different masajistas y'all are referring to?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 12:34:02 PM
Does anybody have any photos of these different masajistas y'all are referring to?
J A G, are you asking for photos to see what their facilities looks like,  and/or in order to find it?    1st, many of these massage places are small places.  Nothing fancy or extravagant.   They may have a couple of separate rooms,  or just curtains between massage tables.   

2ndly,  photos may not help you until you know the lay out of the downtown area of Sosua, and landmarks.  In our discussion about massage places landmarks were mentioned in regards to their approx location.  So if those landmarks mentioned are a mystery to you also,  seeing photos may not help you until you get here and move about to find these places.   Once here, you can ask somebody ( I recommend another tourist/expat, not a local hustler  ) where these places are.   Everything mentioned is within walking distance of each other.   

Safety/security tip , especially for massage parlors w/extras.   Always be mindful of where you place your clothing and valuables when you disrobe.  Best to make sure they are placed near your head, not your feet.   Years ago was staying at Sosua Suites.    Two doors to the left next to the barber shop was a happy ending massage place.   I went in for a regular massage and ended up getting a masterful unrequested BJ.   

I had removed my clothes, and since they didnt have a chair to put them on,  I laid them on the floor.  I think I was directed to place them there.  How convenient.  Problem was, on the floor at the foot of the table, not by my head.   Once I turned over to complete my massage,  chick starts rubbing me and just starts sucking.   With this going on,  another chick in the salon was on the other side of the curtain helping herself to my pockets.   

Afterwards, I was supposed to get a pedicure.   When I went in my pockets to pay,  I can see I was light a few 1000 pesos.  Stupid me, and recently exchanged money.   And instead of putting the money away in my hotel safe,  I went straight to the salon for the massage. Boy if I could have turned back the clock on that one.    Thats another thing.   I no longer carry more than I need or valuables when I go for a massage.   Live and learn.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on July 31, 2020, 12:47:58 PM
I think he was talking about pics of the therapists, most are basic milf types, think of maids that clean your hotel room, never had one that I wanted to hit.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 31, 2020, 12:56:12 PM
I think he was talking about pics of the therapists, most are basic milf types, think of maids that clean your hotel room, never had one that I wanted to hit.
Spontaneity. You hint, she offers and you accept just for freak of it!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 01:31:27 PM
I think he was talking about pics of the therapists, most are basic milf types, think of maids that clean your hotel room, never had one that I wanted to hit.
Oh my bad.  you are correct.   He was talking about the girls themselves.  hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmm.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on July 31, 2020, 06:22:56 PM
Yeah i eas thinking along the samd lines, checking out what these girls look like

But i think Papi's on point. Just go with the flow and let it happen. ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
Yeah i eas thinking along the samd lines, checking out what these girls look like

But i think Papi's on point. Just go with the flow and let it happen. ????
Keep in mind, most of these places that do the regular massage have older masseuses.    The happy ending places where younger chicks may be,  it's hit or miss on if the chick will be working on a guys next vacation.     If they look like anything,  the chick is likely to be snatched up and no longer working there.     I hooked up with a cute one that worked in the spot across from Hotel Sea Breeze.

After about a month, she left there and went to Junilsa's salon.   It didnt take long before I got outbid.   But it was a good run while it lasted.  She had some good juice too, and she didnt cost me much because she was trying to play the long game on me.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mrfortwash on July 31, 2020, 07:44:13 PM
Speaking of Junisa....I was there this past winter.    The owners daughter is a stunner...she is legal...18 or 19.   

Any of you dogs get her after hours?   She started a massage on me then did the ole my co-worker finish massage....
Is she a Cute girl,  very slim? I had one there a few weeks ago and a young slim girl gave a great massage.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 08:16:28 PM
It's Friday July 31.   Watched again Kings discharging patrons around 630ish.    Crowd spilling out on the sidewalk.   Some people seen heading up the block towards the highway,  most walking towards the 1st liquor store ( it's closed ).   Right there is an alley way where some chicks stay,  or they hang close by in case the cops come through. 

Hard dicks are standing around looking to see what talent is available to scoop up.   I guess it's been established that chicas have a way/means of moving around during the curfew through the local taxis.   Motos are taking a chance once curfew starts moving chicas around.   Others are standing around by the take out window.   Ordering food,  or "sharking" chicas from there.   

Over near Europa,  some rough looking chicas are out on the corner near Europa,  or down that side street where expats stay.   Im assuming, chicas can easily duck for cover in the hallway there.   

Some chicas can be seen heading to Ahnvee, along with some guys that may be staying there.  Other chicks I see around the colmado that is one block before you get to Ahnvee.    A few steps to the left of the colmado is a rooming house where some chicas stay.   So these chicas are standing around outside looking for potential clients in passing.     Earlier in the day   chicas/mongers are usually on the beach,  when it's a nice day.   After the beach, this is the daily routine right around when curfew starts.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on July 31, 2020, 08:20:27 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 31, 2020, 08:32:29 PM
Ouch

My buddy was there last weekend. He says guys are so desperate that they’re taking absolute skanks for TLN.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 31, 2020, 08:38:35 PM
Who is desperate in Sosua??? If you have money, why would your choices be limited? I think your info from your source is questionable...maybe both are. If anyone goes to the beach, Rumbas and Ahnvee they will find plenty of choices for acceptable chicas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 31, 2020, 08:41:39 PM
Who is desperate in Sosua??? If you have money, why would your choices be limited? I think your info from your source is questionable...maybe both are.

My boy is a true vet. He’s been going to Sosua for over 15 years. He knows of what he speaks and he’s not going to say it’s not raining when it is. You got proof to the contrary? You weren’t there during curfew.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 31, 2020, 08:49:29 PM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 31, 2020, 08:57:43 PM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.

I didn’t say there might not be fine chicas available, although my buddy said they were few and far between. I simply said I was told there were guys taking skanks for TLN. Why you chose to take that as a blanket statement there was no talent in Sosua is beyond my understanding. He also told me that there are former Pica girls asking and getting $125 ST.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 31, 2020, 09:19:11 PM
...and to imply desperation in Sosua is beyond my understanding. Anyone who walks outside is seeing chicas everywhere they turn. How on earth could anyone feel desperate in that environment. My first trip I knew next to nothing, fell for every trick to take my money and still knew the price of pussy there...because I asked someone there. Sure some folks are less bright but they're not the norm and there's not enough of them to affect the norm.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 09:20:49 PM
In forums like this context can make a difference in how something is understood/or assimilated.   

When you said "My buddy was there last weekend. He says guys are so desperate that they’re taking absolute skanks for TLN."

Simply saying "guys" are so desperate, one could take that to mean you are implying that most guys are doing this.  And it pre supposes the choices that other guys are making is insignificant or irrelevant.   There have always been some guys that got with skanks,  what is so special about these guys?     

In your explanation to Papi V you said "I was told "there were guys" taking skanks for TLN.    That is not the same wording,  or context from the 1st statement you said.    You saying now "there were guys", one can assume that some guys took skanks,  but that there is no emphasis or pre conclusion that some skank choosing pandemic was going on. 

It's not always what you convey, but how you convey it.    Even ones explanation should be congruent with the original message.   If you change it during an explanation,  it looks suspect. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 31, 2020, 09:24:49 PM
I'm old and I'm drinking,  so just give me a pass on my ranting! LoL! I gots nothing better to do.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 31, 2020, 09:30:51 PM
In forums like this context can make a difference in how something is understood/or assimilated.   

When you said "My buddy was there last weekend. He says guys are so desperate that they’re taking absolute skanks for TLN."

Simply saying "guys" are so desperate, one could take that to mean you are implying that most guys are doing this.  And it pre supposes the choices that other guys are making is insignificant or irrelevant.   There have always been some guys that got with skanks,  what is so special about these guys?     

In your explanation to Papi V you said "I was told "there were guys" taking skanks for TLN.    That is not the same wording,  or context from the 1st statement you said.    You saying now "there were guys", one can assume that some guys took skanks,  but that there is no emphasis or pre conclusion that some skank choosing pandemic was going on. 

It's not always what you convey, but how you convey it.    Even ones explanation should be congruent with the original message.   If you change it during an explanation,  it looks suspect.

My bad for not leading with some. You’re there now from what you’ve seen are there a higher number  than normal of guys taking skanks shortly before curfew? While we’re at it if you had to give a grade to the general level of female talent that is out and about what would that grade be?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 31, 2020, 09:34:53 PM
...and to imply desperation in Sosua is beyond my understanding. Anyone who walks outside is seeing chicas everywhere they turn. How on earth could anyone feel desperate in that environment. My first trip I knew next to nothing, fell for every trick to take my money and still knew the price of pussy there...because I asked someone there. Sure some folks are less bright but they're not the norm and there's not enough of them to affect the norm.

You don’t give yourself enough credit. A lot of guys don’t pick up that quickly if ever.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on July 31, 2020, 09:51:25 PM
No longer on the ground but an expat buddy called and says the street is alive. It seems to be getting better. Perhaps there’s a sense that business needs to be taken care of before curfew.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Kamar on July 31, 2020, 10:14:57 PM
I'm no longer there; however, I have to agree with Jazz2019. I left a week ago and if I didn't have a regular, I would of been disappointed.  Usually, I would go a few days early before telling my regular to come down ( to recruit new talent) but there wasn't a lot of talent when I arrive. There was way more male then female, the talent wasn't up to par.  I understand a lot can change in a week. I' ll be back in a few months, hopefully everything will be somewhat back to normal.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 10:33:13 PM
In forums like this context can make a difference in how something is understood/or assimilated.   

When you said "My buddy was there last weekend. He says guys are so desperate that they’re taking absolute skanks for TLN."

Simply saying "guys" are so desperate, one could take that to mean you are implying that most guys are doing this.  And it pre supposes the choices that other guys are making is insignificant or irrelevant.   There have always been some guys that got with skanks,  what is so special about these guys?     

In your explanation to Papi V you said "I was told "there were guys" taking skanks for TLN.    That is not the same wording,  or context from the 1st statement you said.    You saying now "there were guys", one can assume that some guys took skanks,  but that there is no emphasis or pre conclusion that some skank choosing pandemic was going on. 

It's not always what you convey, but how you convey it.    Even ones explanation should be congruent with the original message.   If you change it during an explanation,  it looks suspect.

My bad for not leading with some. You’re there now from what you’ve seen are there a higher number  than normal of guys taking skanks shortly before curfew? While we’re at it if you had to give a grade to the general level of female talent that is out and about what would that grade be?
1st off what is the definition of a female being a skank?   I wanna know so I can answer accordingly.   Im asking, because if I were to ask a very religious church lady, ( or perhaps the ex mayor of Sosua )  I would assume they both would say every female involved in prostitution is a skank ( or their equivalent description ).   You may beg to differ.  So lets see if we can come to some sort of understanding of what you mean by skank?   

As far as talent,  that is subjective too.   I have read guys here alluding to talent mainly being about how chicas look.   Whereas when I define talent,  I define it by how they look,  but in addition by their services and character.     So I'm not necessarily on the same page with some guys in terms of measuring talent by just one variable.    I see talent as more than just looks, so I cant give a discernable answer on what guys picked up,  because I dont know what those guys experienced behind closed doors.     Give me some feedback on those things,  and we'll proceed to figuring this out.   

Edit :   I should have asked what is an "absolute" skank?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 31, 2020, 10:56:13 PM
I'm no longer there; however, I have to agree with Jazz2019. I left a week ago and if I didn't have a regular, I would of been disappointed.  Usually, I would go a few days early before telling my regular to come down ( to recruit new talent) but there wasn't a lot of talent when I arrive. There was way more male then female, the talent wasn't up to par.  I understand a lot can change in a week. I' ll be back in a few months, hopefully everything will be somewhat back to normal.
Generally speaking publicly,  warnings and feedback were given that the amount of chicas coming to Sosua was slim and was going to be slim.  Warnings also went out that it may be too soon to be coming to the DR just because the country opened up for international flights.   In the US the rise in cases caused cities and states to reverse their openings. 

It was common knowledge that the DR did not have the virus under control here as well.   No night life.  Hotels barely opened.   And yet people still took that chance.    So these testimonials on talent and shortages is sort of baffling to me.   I mean, what did people expect?     I was one that said that it may take awhile before we see a lot of chicas returning to Sosua.   I also recommended that guys have things lined up so they dont have to rely on Sosua ( the unknown ).   

Some guys came and had a ball.   Some guys came and were disappointed.    We all know, one mans experience or vacation does not equate to another mans experience or vacation.    One mans trash is another mans treasure.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on July 31, 2020, 11:00:47 PM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.

I didn’t say there might not be fine chicas available, although my buddy said they were few and far between. I simply said I was told there were guys taking skanks for TLN. Why you chose to take that as a blanket statement there was no talent in Sosua is beyond my understanding. He also told me that there are former Pica girls asking and getting $125 ST.

Nah Jazzy say it aint so..who the f--k is paying $125 short time during the pandemic? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on July 31, 2020, 11:02:56 PM
If your flying into the country now just go lay with your main for a couple days and come back home.  This isn't sport f--kin time.  We're in a pandemic.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Kamar on August 01, 2020, 12:11:49 AM
I'm no longer there; however, I have to agree with Jazz2019. I left a week ago and if I didn't have a regular, I would of been disappointed.  Usually, I would go a few days early before telling my regular to come down ( to recruit new talent) but there wasn't a lot of talent when I arrive. There was way more male then female, the talent wasn't up to par.  I understand a lot can change in a week. I' ll be back in a few months, hopefully everything will be somewhat back to normal.
Generally speaking publicly,  warnings and feedback were given that the amount of chicas coming to Sosua was slim and was going to be slim.  Warnings also went out that it may be too soon to be coming to the DR just because the country opened up for international flights.   In the US the rise in cases caused cities and states to reverse their openings. 

It was common knowledge that the DR did not have the virus under control here as well.   No night life.  Hotels barely opened.   And yet people still took that chance.    So these testimonials on talent and shortages is sort of baffling to me.   I mean, what did people expect?     I was one that said that it may take awhile before we see a lot of chicas returning to Sosua.   I also recommended that guys have things lined up so they dont have to rely on Sosua ( the unknown ).   

Some guys came and had a ball.   Some guys came and were disappointed.    We all know, one mans experience or vacation does not equate to another mans experience or vacation.    One mans trash is another mans treasure.

 I had a ball because I already had stuff line up; however, I'm saying I agree with Jazzy Statement. I was disappointed because i'm use to seeing the SU in a different way.  I thought there would of been more female there due to the pandemic , I was thinking that they would be waiting on us to arrive to make that money; however , that wasn't the case.  And as far as talent, you can't base it just off of look, I agree; however, when choosing a guest that the first thing you recognize and a lot of them wasn't up to par. There wasn't many female to choose from and they were mostly 6 and 7s in my eyes, as far as attractiveness.  I agree with you. One mans experience doesn't equate to another mans experience. And I do believe not having any clubs open have a major impact on the city right now.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 12:16:56 AM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.

I didn’t say there might not be fine chicas available, although my buddy said they were few and far between. I simply said I was told there were guys taking skanks for TLN. Why you chose to take that as a blanket statement there was no talent in Sosua is beyond my understanding. He also told me that there are former Pica girls asking and getting $125 ST.

Nah Jazzy say it aint so..who the f--k is paying $125 short time during the pandemic?

My boy is an OG. He’s in contact with a few of the old/new Pica squad. The price he was given was $125 ST. He also said there was close to zero talent in town and absent a personal crew there was little reason to visit. Because quality was so bad he didn’t doubt that guys were paying what the Pica girls wanted. He said it was like Christmas for skanks with those girls making more money than they ever had. Last weekend basically three places were opened. Flip Flop, Ary’s on the beach, and Kings were open with brothers crowding in each.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Seemeinthestreets on August 01, 2020, 05:55:05 AM
The talent out here is slim as stated before. A lottttt of chicas asking for more than regular prices and they nowhere near the shit you can get away with before covid
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 01, 2020, 06:28:01 AM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.

I didn’t say there might not be fine chicas available, although my buddy said they were few and far between. I simply said I was told there were guys taking skanks for TLN. Why you chose to take that as a blanket statement there was no talent in Sosua is beyond my understanding. He also told me that there are former Pica girls asking and getting $125 ST.

Nah Jazzy say it aint so..who the f--k is paying $125 short time during the pandemic?
Suckers that dont know any better, or Simps,,, f--k that  bargan and barter no high prices !!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 08:04:41 AM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.

I didn’t say there might not be fine chicas available, although my buddy said they were few and far between. I simply said I was told there were guys taking skanks for TLN. Why you chose to take that as a blanket statement there was no talent in Sosua is beyond my understanding. He also told me that there are former Pica girls asking and getting $125 ST.

Nah Jazzy say it aint so..who the f--k is paying $125 short time during the pandemic?

My boy is an OG. He’s in contact with a few of the old/new Pica squad. The price he was given was $125 ST. He also said there was close to zero talent in town and absent a personal crew there was little reason to visit. Because quality was so bad he didn’t doubt that guys were paying what the Pica girls wanted. He said it was like Christmas for skanks with those girls making more money than they ever had. Last weekend basically three places were opened. Flip Flop, Ary’s on the beach, and Kings were open with brothers crowding in each.
Check it, Im an OG as well.  And i live here.  Many of the guys that made it to Sosua,  werent exactly Denzel Washingtons on vacation.   There were a lot of unattractive people showing up in Sosua, not just chicas.  Like was meeting like in enough instances.   Meaning a lot of the cats werent looking much different than the chicas they were scoping out.   Did your OG friend take that into consideration when he was observing "guys" going after absolute skanks? 

If I could get 100 pesos for every ugly, cornball looking, green behaving, unkept , or sloppy fat dude I saw that was in town,  it would pay for my next trip to Asia.    Some cats are very judgemental of these chicas, because they are paying for services.   Neglecting to factor in their own shortcomings, appearance and hygiene.   

For all we know, many of the fine ass chicas guys wanted to see,  decided not to come and decided to let the 2nd and 3rd stringers handle the job.  Meanwhile they stay safe , and use social media like they've been doing.  Or the simple fact, that many are in heavy demand.  Probably wifed up.   So no dire need to rely on Sosua, like the rest of them.   And mind you,  there aint no clubs open in Puerto Plata, where the big ballers are popping bottles and flossing.   So it's obvious some chicas have a different game plan to sustain them.   Guys need to take these things into consideration.   

The p4p game is evolving.  The internet, communication technology, social media has opened up options and changed the way many chicas can operate.   So when it was said,  returning to Sosua so soon was not a good idea.  That probably was sound advice.   Now if you are thirsty,  and just cant stand the scene at home.   You ignore the warnings, come anyway and deal with whats here.    Get caught up in a different pandemic, later a SOE and curfew and have guys complaining/reporting about there was no talent, and some guys were going with skanks for TLN.    Again what did you expect?   Especially after only a short time after reopening the borders?   

Like I said one mans trash is another mans treasure.   Here's a thought for general consumption.  If a bunch of cats were released from Riker's Island up in New York, or any prison in the USA,  would they care about there being no talent, or whether a bunch of skanks were in abundance being hired for all night?   Of course not.   Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.   

I cant rely on some OG's report if he fails to consider that there is a reason why there was less chicas in town to choose from, and why guys hired what was available.     When the supply increases,  there are usually more choices to choose from.   For now, the skeleton crew is on duty.   The pandemic is not on vacation.  During the lock down it was worse.   But I didnt make much of an issue of it.   It made sense that there was less chicas in town.   

The OG in question should have factored in everything Im saying.  And what he reported he didnt have to report.  It should have already been understood.   The same mentality has returned to Sosua.   Guys over paying, and/or doing things the way they want.    Not the way, any OG would do it.    I live here and have learned to accept that some mongers operate differently.  OG's in the states need to recognize it as well.  It is what it is.   We all deal with the hand that were dealt in any given moment.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
The talent out here is slim as stated before. A lottttt of chicas asking for more than regular prices and they nowhere near the shit you can get away with before covid
You are exactly right.  A lot of chicas have gotten worse in their expectations.   Here's something to consider.   At the beginning of the year,  the exchange rate here was I think around 53 pesos to 1 USD.    2000 pesos for ST was around $38.  3500 pesos for TLN was about $66.   

Fast forward to today.   And those same pesos (2000/3500) has less value compared to the foreign currency.  In addition,  the cost of living even for locals has gone up.  For foreigners it's less of an impact.  But to locals it has major impact.   Now Im not saying locals are great mathematicians and economists in regards to day to day operations.   But they do rely on others that teach them what they are losing if they dont adjust for inflation when dealing with foreigners. 

Locals are not stupid.  They know that foreigners get more pesos when they exchange money.  They know we can afford to pay more.   It's the same here for expats who pay rent in USD but have the option to pay in pesos.   A landlord is going to try to get the best exchange rate they can to match the currency exchange rate of their tenant.    If the agreement with the landlord was always in pesos, then the foreigner is the one thats way ahead.     

Here's where I feel locals are still far behind.    They indeed school each other on demanding and expecting to get the most that they can out of foreigners.   But where they lack consistently is that many have a raggedy approach to business.   Customer service sucks,  bad attitude, ungrateful,  no concept of attracting repeat business.    Enough have their heads  swollen over the fact that men want to pay them to have sex with them.    Any body who wont pay them to f--k, there will always be someone else who will.

When you got that type of egoism going on,  they cant do no wrong.    And this is one reason why they expect more for their services ( or for just being women ) than what the experience with them is worth.     Enough women I think feel mongers put them on a pedestal simply by the thirst they display.     So the price starts high to see what kind of client she's dealing with.   The "dont watch my pockets" mongers or the bottle popping cats that go to the clubs in PP and think guys going to Sosua are lames,   resent being checked on how they operate with women.   For instance unnecessary over paying , or sending WU,  or pea cocking themselves just to "pedestalize" women up in the clubs.  etc.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: ivanpobeda102 on August 01, 2020, 09:10:09 AM
Strip  is garbage as of today in my opinion.Bunch of charameco hoes and fat ass oldies i have seen on the strip since 2017. Im sticking with my regulars for now but a lot of them are afraid to go to sosua so it IS f--ked up for noobs for sure.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on August 01, 2020, 09:28:11 AM
But where they lack consistently is that many have a raggedy approach to business.   Customer service sucks,  bad attitude, ungrateful,  no concept of attracting repeat business. Quote]

So much truth!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 09:48:53 AM


I was disappointed because i'm use to seeing the SU in a different way.  I thought there would of been more female there due to the pandemic , I was thinking that they would be waiting on us to arrive to make that money; however , that wasn't the case. 
Ok,   based on your observation how do you suppose most chicas are earning income, when they arent coming to Sosua?     In months past it was discussed that many chicas dont need to come to Sosua to earn.   Many earn directly from using their phones.  WU , social media, expats,  stuck tourists who remained behind,  local men of all income levels, family/friends living abroad.   Some chicas work in Sosua when it's convenient and through WU/social media.   

IMO, it would be a mistake in judgement to assume there would be an abundance of chicas coming to Sosua during a major health crisis, with no night life, questionable hotel accommodations, chicas still chased and locked up by police, and possibly getting caught up in a major turn of events like a SOE or closing of the border.    For the chicas that did come,  it shows their own desperation.   They chose making money over their health and that of their families.   

But then,  they arent known for making the most intelligent decisions either.   Just like us mongers when it comes to pussy on the brain.   Enough chicas might have thought the same thing?   What happened to all of the thirsty men that usually come to Sosua?  There's a shortage of talent.    Some couldnt afford to come,  couldnt get time away, or were afraid to come,  or thought it wasnt a good time to come.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 12:59:23 PM
A couple of my regulars have returned to visit Sosua. They’re complaining that there are not a lot of guys in town other than the old guys that are always there (I got a chuckle out of the viejo comment). It appears that the testing threat may have led to a number of guys changing their plans.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jack C on August 01, 2020, 01:49:32 PM
I'm no longer there; however, I have to agree with Jazz2019. I left a week ago and if I didn't have a regular, I would of been disappointed.  Usually, I would go a few days early before telling my regular to come down ( to recruit new talent) but there wasn't a lot of talent when I arrive. There was way more male then female, the talent wasn't up to par.  I understand a lot can change in a week. I' ll be back in a few months, hopefully everything will be somewhat back to normal.
Generally speaking publicly,  warnings and feedback were given that the amount of chicas coming to Sosua was slim and was going to be slim.  Warnings also went out that it may be too soon to be coming to the DR just because the country opened up for international flights.   In the US the rise in cases caused cities and states to reverse their openings. 

It was common knowledge that the DR did not have the virus under control here as well.   No night life.  Hotels barely opened.   And yet people still took that chance.    So these testimonials on talent and shortages is sort of baffling to me.   I mean, what did people expect?     I was one that said that it may take awhile before we see a lot of chicas returning to Sosua.   I also recommended that guys have things lined up so they dont have to rely on Sosua ( the unknown ).   

Some guys came and had a ball.   Some guys came and were disappointed.    We all know, one mans experience or vacation does not equate to another mans experience or vacation.    One mans trash is another mans treasure.

Right! I just kind of took a step back looking at all the posts talking about how great things are, the sky isn't falling etc etc. Felt like a lot of wishful thinking for a lot of people not ready to accept that these are still not normal times and it may be best to set expectations about the SU (and really the world) accordingly. To each his own though.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PTJD on August 01, 2020, 02:19:13 PM
Murano-- appreciate all the insights into the psychology of what is going on!  I think all of these bits of wisdom I have gathered from these posts have put me in a better position for my first trip to Sosua.  Because of this advice, I made some social media contacts.  Plus, I am spending first two days at Oasis now.  I am not looking to rack up big numbers, just a handful of good times.  Now I wont be relying on daily searches in a down time.  Some low-end or mediocre chica says $125 for ST and I can just laugh and wave her on by.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 03:04:14 PM
Murano-- appreciate all the insights into the psychology of what is going on!  I think all of these bits of wisdom I have gathered from these posts have put me in a better position for my first trip to Sosua.  Because of this advice, I made some social media contacts.  Plus, I am spending first two days at Oasis now.  I am not looking to rack up big numbers, just a handful of good times.  Now I wont be relying on daily searches in a down time.  Some low-end or mediocre chica says $125 for ST and I can just laugh and wave her on by.
Copy That!   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 03:12:22 PM
Okay today is Saturday August 1.    Picked up an expat buddy ( in POP ) that lives in Sosua coming in from JFK.   Brother was kinda stressed before he got here.  I tried to encourage him to chill.   He may get tested , he may not.   He had someone put a letter together for him,  indicating he had Covid 19 test, and the results were negative.   Very generic looking form.   It worked, and they let him through without paying it much mind.   Lady immigration officer tried to pass him a note asking for a propina ( I always thought only the male agents did that ).   He ignored her and kept it moving.     

One of the 1st people off the plane.   Too bad he never got to see how the testing process went for the randomly picked passengers.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 03:40:00 PM
A couple of my regulars have returned to visit Sosua. They’re complaining that there are not a lot of guys in town other than the old guys that are always there (I got a chuckle out of the viejo comment). It appears that the testing threat may have led to a number of guys changing their plans.
I say her observation is correct.   A skeleton crew of mongers showed up in the last couple of weeks.   You are also correct, the testing upon arrival or having to have a test within 5 days of arriving, spooked a lot of guys.   Along with the SOE, the curfew, no night life, , slim pickings of chicas, businesses closing early, not knowing if it's safe dealing with chicas and getting the virus from them.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mike169 on August 01, 2020, 03:57:17 PM
Just left kings.packed w guys.rats hanging outside.looked like a sasuage fest.ive only saw a handful of quality chicas last 2 weeks here.badoo seems to have the same rats.tinder has some decent one.most are from outta town.anyone saying different isnt really here.curfew sat and sun at 5.anhvee open.same guys 5 to 1 chicas.thank god for my regs
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiChulo7 on August 01, 2020, 03:58:38 PM
A couple of my regulars have returned to visit Sosua. They’re complaining that there are not a lot of guys in town other than the old guys that are always there (I got a chuckle out of the viejo comment). It appears that the testing threat may have led to a number of guys changing their plans.
I say her observation is correct.   A skeleton crew of mongers showed up in the last couple of weeks.   You are also correct, the testing upon arrival or having to have a test within 5 days of arriving, spooked a lot of guys.   Along with the SOE, the curfew, no night life, , slim pickings of chicas, businesses closing early, not knowing if it's safe dealing with chicas and getting the virus from them.   

When is the curfew over? I know there is the 20 days then 25 more if extended but what are the expiration dates?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 01, 2020, 04:11:54 PM
A couple of my regulars have returned to visit Sosua. They’re complaining that there are not a lot of guys in town other than the old guys that are always there (I got a chuckle out of the viejo comment). It appears that the testing threat may have led to a number of guys changing their plans.
I say her observation is correct.   A skeleton crew of mongers showed up in the last couple of weeks.   You are also correct, the testing upon arrival or having to have a test within 5 days of arriving, spooked a lot of guys.   Along with the SOE, the curfew, no night life, , slim pickings of chicas, businesses closing early, not knowing if it's safe dealing with chicas and getting the virus from them.   

When is the curfew over? I know there is the 20 days then 25 more if extended but what are the expiration dates?

They plan on reviewing curfew for renewal on 8/9. Fear is they’ll tighten it up from 2 pm to 5 am. Might be wrong, but I don’t see that happening. Dominicans are starting to chaff at the restrictions and on a separate note gyms were given permission to open. I think they’ll go to something like outdoor dining only with bars/discos closed, shutting down everything at 11 pm, and restricting gatherings to 50 folks after 11. What they’re doing now in locking folks up in extremely close quarters for violating curfew is simply generating more covid spread.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 04:16:52 PM
Just left kings.packed w guys.rats hanging outside.looked like a sasuage fest.ive only saw a handful of quality chicas last 2 weeks here.badoo seems to have the same rats.tinder has some decent one.most are from outta town.anyone saying different isnt really here.curfew sat and sun at 5.anhvee open.same guys 5 to 1 chicas.thank god for my regs
Thats right,  regulars are a mongers best option.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiChulo7 on August 01, 2020, 04:21:55 PM
A couple of my regulars have returned to visit Sosua. They’re complaining that there are not a lot of guys in town other than the old guys that are always there (I got a chuckle out of the viejo comment). It appears that the testing threat may have led to a number of guys changing their plans.
I say her observation is correct.   A skeleton crew of mongers showed up in the last couple of weeks.   You are also correct, the testing upon arrival or having to have a test within 5 days of arriving, spooked a lot of guys.   Along with the SOE, the curfew, no night life, , slim pickings of chicas, businesses closing early, not knowing if it's safe dealing with chicas and getting the virus from them.   

When is the curfew over? I know there is the 20 days then 25 more if extended but what are the expiration dates?

They plan on reviewing curfew for renewal on 8/9. Fear is they’ll tighten it up from 2 pm to 5 am. Might be wrong, but I don’t see that happening. Dominicans are starting to chaff at the restrictions and on a separate note gyms were given permission to open. I think they’ll go to something like outdoor dining only with bars/discos closed, shutting down everything at 11 pm, and restricting gatherings to 50 folks after 11. What they’re doing now in locking folks up in extremely close quarters for violating curfew is simply generating more covid spread.

Thank Jazzy! I just need things to be good by middle of September, ready to book my trip now!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 01, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
A couple of my regulars have returned to visit Sosua. They’re complaining that there are not a lot of guys in town other than the old guys that are always there (I got a chuckle out of the viejo comment). It appears that the testing threat may have led to a number of guys changing their plans.
I say her observation is correct.   A skeleton crew of mongers showed up in the last couple of weeks.   You are also correct, the testing upon arrival or having to have a test within 5 days of arriving, spooked a lot of guys.   Along with the SOE, the curfew, no night life, , slim pickings of chicas, businesses closing early, not knowing if it's safe dealing with chicas and getting the virus from them.   

When is the curfew over? I know there is the 20 days then 25 more if extended but what are the expiration dates?
As Jazzy said.  Around August 9th, the authorities will evaluate the situation with the virus spread,  and determine the course of action from there.    I for one,  have learned to be prepared for them extending the curfew,  not ending it just because we reached a certain date.  So even if it goes the full 45 days of the SOE, a request for an extension can be made by the new administration.     For citizens and those that live here,  were used to that outcome.     

Hopefully they wont make it any tighter than it already is.   I almost left the house at 4:15 to go do something, forgetting it was 5pm curfew today.    If they changed the weekend curfew to 7 or 8 I would like that very much.    I reckon that still sucks for guys coming here for vacation. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on August 02, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?

As an “older cat” this actually played to our strengths. Sosua Virgin but I found my footing and hunted about 3-4pm. Ship it by the 6pm curfew and had time to work the bartenders at the Infinity Blu pool after that. Due to my departing flight at 3am from STI I was forced to start the Sosua to STI drive at 10pm. Very deserted, actually peaceful drive. Actually passed a cop accidentally on the highway at almost midnight with no response.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on August 03, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?

As an “older cat” this actually played to our strengths. Sosua Virgin but I found my footing and hunted about 3-4pm. Ship it by the 6pm curfew and had time to work the bartenders at the Infinity Blu pool after that. Due to my departing flight at 3am from STI I was forced to start the Sosua to STI drive at 10pm. Very deserted, actually peaceful drive. Actually passed a cop accidentally on the highway at almost midnight with no response.

Congrats on the success on your "virgin" voyage to SOSUA. .Maybe you can teach some of the supposed veterans some new tricks. You got a trip report??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: yitzi on August 03, 2020, 10:34:22 PM
I'm old and I'm drinking,  so just give me a pass on my ranting! LoL! I gots nothing better to do.

You crazy... lol this helped me get through this thread ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on August 05, 2020, 05:25:18 PM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?

As an “older cat” this actually played to our strengths. Sosua Virgin but I found my footing and hunted about 3-4pm. Ship it by the 6pm curfew and had time to work the bartenders at the Infinity Blu pool after that. Due to my departing flight at 3am from STI I was forced to start the Sosua to STI drive at 10pm. Very deserted, actually peaceful drive. Actually passed a cop accidentally on the highway at almost midnight with no response.

Congrats on the success on your "virgin" voyage to SOSUA. .Maybe you can teach some of the supposed veterans some new tricks. You got a trip report??

Well thanks but I probably don’t have a lot to add. My MO was to go down around Kings, park a block or 2 away so I could do some recon during the walk. I always sat at the rail overlooking the street to scope out the street/ corner there so I could get an overview. Got rapport with the doorman and the “entertainment” guy with a little green and they became my best buds.
    Actually my best pull from the whole trip was a little 21yr old that came in to eat with her girlfriend. She was smokin’ but I don’t think she was workin’. As she walked by I told one of my new “best buds” that I was in luv and he goes to work........Next thing I know she’s sitting with me. A definite 9.5 and a frequent flyer for the rest of my trip. Gave her 3k a pop and she stayed around until I shooed her away. Last day I met her for a nice lunch and gave her 3k and Told her no sex. She almost cried. Just wanted to see what happened and I was happy that she left me smiling when she left the condo that day also. I’m in touch with her still and may be flying her to another destination to hang out for a few days.
    in conclusion, I have nothing to compare it to, but accidentally had a great time and left my Vape with the little spinner in case I come back. She doesn’t smoke.............pot
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on August 06, 2020, 08:32:13 AM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?

As an “older cat” this actually played to our strengths. Sosua Virgin but I found my footing and hunted about 3-4pm. Ship it by the 6pm curfew and had time to work the bartenders at the Infinity Blu pool after that. Due to my departing flight at 3am from STI I was forced to start the Sosua to STI drive at 10pm. Very deserted, actually peaceful drive. Actually passed a cop accidentally on the highway at almost midnight with no response.

Congrats on the success on your "virgin" voyage to SOSUA. .Maybe you can teach some of the supposed veterans some new tricks. You got a trip report??

Well thanks but I probably don’t have a lot to add. My MO was to go down around Kings, park a block or 2 away so I could do some recon during the walk. I always sat at the rail overlooking the street to scope out the street/ corner there so I could get an overview. Got rapport with the doorman and the “entertainment” guy with a little green and they became my best buds.
    Actually my best pull from the whole trip was a little 21yr old that came in to eat with her girlfriend. She was smokin’ but I don’t think she was workin’. As she walked by I told one of my new “best buds” that I was in luv and he goes to work........Next thing I know she’s sitting with me. A definite 9.5 and a frequent flyer for the rest of my trip. Gave her 3k a pop and she stayed around until I shooed her away. Last day I met her for a nice lunch and gave her 3k and Told her no sex. She almost cried. Just wanted to see what happened and I was happy that she left me smiling when she left the condo that day also. I’m in touch with her still and may be flying her to another destination to hang out for a few days.
    in conclusion, I have nothing to compare it to, but accidentally had a great time and left my Vape with the little spinner in case I come back. She doesn’t smoke.............pot

Ain't nothing wrong with looking out for a quality chick in person after the fact. You made her day/week/month. Just let her do her when you not around and don't fall fall in love..lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Lurklongtime on August 06, 2020, 10:20:54 AM
According to Murano there were crowds leaving Kings and Chicas on the beach and at Ahnvee. That confirms that there was acceptable choices available.  If anyone waits until the last minute to choose then you get whats leftover...but it has nothing to do with the acceptable numbers of fine chicas that could have been selected.  There are plenty of fine chicas available in Sosua now. Don't get it twisted.

I didn’t say there might not be fine chicas available, although my buddy said they were few and far between. I simply said I was told there were guys taking skanks for TLN. Why you chose to take that as a blanket statement there was no talent in Sosua is beyond my understanding. He also told me that there are former Pica girls asking and getting $125 ST.

Nah Jazzy say it aint so..who the f--k is paying $125 short time during the pandemic?

Shit Apparently some dudes are...
I was on tinder trying gather backups a chick had the nerve to tell me 100 for ST and 125 TLR .
I didnt even answer just unmatched right away i wish that was the only chick but so far 2 have quoted me that ...
Someone said it earlier im not talking prices a week before i arrive
Lesson learned
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on August 06, 2020, 03:15:32 PM
Thanks Murano for keeping us posted.

Great live reporting Murano! I for one don't know if I can deal with a 5pm curfew on weekends. That would probably be a deal breaker for me....
Understood.  These are unique times.   Nowadays it's like living a real life sci fi futuristic movie,  of the world as we knew it coming to an end and having to adapt to a whole other existence.   Sooner or later were all going to have to adapt and get used to our limitations.   

MR.N same here man. I can’t even imagine older cats dealing with all of this...younger guys maybe.

Murano, what is the beach situation looking like there and can you factually say of today (not yesterday) that people are still out and about on PC after curfew?

As an “older cat” this actually played to our strengths. Sosua Virgin but I found my footing and hunted about 3-4pm. Ship it by the 6pm curfew and had time to work the bartenders at the Infinity Blu pool after that. Due to my departing flight at 3am from STI I was forced to start the Sosua to STI drive at 10pm. Very deserted, actually peaceful drive. Actually passed a cop accidentally on the highway at almost midnight with no response.

Congrats on the success on your "virgin" voyage to SOSUA. .Maybe you can teach some of the supposed veterans some new tricks. You got a trip report??

Well thanks but I probably don’t have a lot to add. My MO was to go down around Kings, park a block or 2 away so I could do some recon during the walk. I always sat at the rail overlooking the street to scope out the street/ corner there so I could get an overview. Got rapport with the doorman and the “entertainment” guy with a little green and they became my best buds.
    Actually my best pull from the whole trip was a little 21yr old that came in to eat with her girlfriend. She was smokin’ but I don’t think she was workin’. As she walked by I told one of my new “best buds” that I was in luv and he goes to work........Next thing I know she’s sitting with me. A definite 9.5 and a frequent flyer for the rest of my trip. Gave her 3k a pop and she stayed around until I shooed her away. Last day I met her for a nice lunch and gave her 3k and Told her no sex. She almost cried. Just wanted to see what happened and I was happy that she left me smiling when she left the condo that day also. I’m in touch with her still and may be flying her to another destination to hang out for a few days.
    in conclusion, I have nothing to compare it to, but accidentally had a great time and left my Vape with the little spinner in case I come back. She doesn’t smoke.............pot

Ain't nothing wrong with looking out for a quality chick in person after the fact. You made her day/week/month. Just let her do her when you not around and don't fall fall in love..lol

Words of wisdom
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 13, 2020, 04:25:01 PM
Current Observations on Pedro Clisante/Strip Sept 11 & 12. 

Was out and about Friday afternoon and noticed Merengue bar door and some windows were open, with security standing by.   Was passing by too quickly to be sure.  Passed by again yesterday, and it does appear Merengue is open for business.   On the glass outside, are pictures of their food menu.  And the name of the restaurant supposedly in side is called HOT Pepper.   Then Im looking across the street at the Flame bar, and they are open too.    There were 2 plastic tables with chairs out front.   2 chicas were sitting at one of them.  This restaurant/bar is now called Brick City Flames,  instead of just Flame bar.   

So it appears both spots are applying the restaurant with a bar concept in order to comply with the rules for being able to open.   Stay tuned........

Further down where Bourbon Street restaurant location was :   Heavy construction is going on there.  Lots of workers on hand.   Outside the bldg. are several steel roll down gates installed.    With the amount of people working on site,  this place may be finished in very little time.     What will it be?   Dont know.   But we'll soon find out.     

Edited to reflect the correct names of the restaurants.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on September 14, 2020, 09:50:40 AM
Current Observations on Pedro Clisante/Strip Sept 11 & 12. 


Further down where Bourbon Street restaurant location was :   Heavy construction is going on there.  Lots of workers on hand.   Outside the bldg. are several steel roll down gates installed.    With the amount of people working on site,  this place may be finished in very little time.     What will it be?   Dont know.   But we'll soon find out.     

There is some talk that the Chinese may be putting a colmado type place in there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 14, 2020, 02:32:03 PM
Sirs the old Strip  not going to be the same if an other  Chinese  junk shop goes there you already have plenty  of supermacado     it's going to be a split strip  a little action with classics and kings and the other end of town near the Anchee and the new entertainment  center due to open  soon. I dont think  sosua city light will open. Sirs Adapt to the changes.  As things Always change. Also noted some of the small resteraunts/bars have changed hands Also noted very few family Tourist just   locals expats hoes and a fair amount  of mongers.    Regular tourist are not coming to Sosua.  Side note.   Spending a few days in portou platta chicas Cassa. Went shopping for food. Funny not one gringo to be seen.  If any probably at some of the resorts if open.    Not to be funny seems like the only white guy on campus. All Good though !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 14, 2020, 06:10:17 PM
Current Observations on Pedro Clisante/Strip Sept 11 & 12. 


Further down where Bourbon Street restaurant location was :   Heavy construction is going on there.  Lots of workers on hand.   Outside the bldg. are several steel roll down gates installed.    With the amount of people working on site,  this place may be finished in very little time.     What will it be?   Dont know.   But we'll soon find out.     

There is some talk that the Chinese may be putting a colmado type place in there.
If that is true,  they are going to give all of the local colmados/mercados in the area some stiff competition.    Because it is in a very convenient spot.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 14, 2020, 06:15:22 PM
Sirs the old Strip  not going to be the same if an other  Chinese  junk shop goes there you already have plenty  of supermacado     it's going to be a split strip  a little action with classics and kings and the other end of town near the Anchee and the new entertainment  center due to open  soon. I dont think  sosua city light will open. Sirs Adapt to the changes.  As things Always change. Also noted some of the small resteraunts/bars have changed hands Also noted very few family Tourist just   locals expats hoes and a fair amount  of mongers.    Regular tourist are not coming to Sosua.  Side note.   Spending a few days in portou platta chicas Cassa. Went shopping for food. Funny not one gringo to be seen.  If any probably at some of the resorts if open.    Not to be funny seems like the only white guy on campus. All Good though !
I believe tourists from quite a few countries are having trouble being able to travel to the DR.   Canadians being one group.  And we all know that Canadians come to the DR for vacation and to snowbird by the thousands.   Once they get back to the DR, the p4p game is going to shift gears.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 16, 2020, 08:06:00 AM
Poor Brick City Flames & Merengue/Hot Pepper bar restaurants   Doors are open,  but both places still dead.  What are they going to need to get these places filled with customers?   

When I look at Merengue Bar,  the 1st thing that I'm observing, is that it seems too enclosed.  Except for some of the windows being open, it looks rather dark inside and uninviting.   Merengue Bar was mostly a night time establishment to go to.  Rumba in the afternoon,  and Merengue later before Classico.   So I dont know how MB is going to pull it off,  with a 7pm curfew during the week, and a 5pm curfew on the weekends?    Maybe they are looking forward to the cessation of the curfew down the road?     

Next door, at Bar Central that place is busy, busy.    The doors and windows are wide open.  Plus the area is not that deep inside, like Merengue Bar.  Easy to fill the bar.   BC, was mostly filled with white guys, Haitianas with a light sprinkle of Dominicanas.  Chicks most guys might not be interested in.   But even at 650 pm, ( 10 min before curfew ) a decent crowd of people were still inside drinking and enjoying as if there was no curfew whatsover.   

Plus they got the short time hotel in the back.  So I'm sure muggs are putting it to use.  The German restaurant next to BC closing just before the curfew.     Moving along, I saw the same thing at that bar across from Hotel Europa.  Place filled with guys and chicas ( same thing, rough looking chicks ) up in there.    Moving further down the way, the Cheers Bar was going strong as well. Some chicas, but mostly a bunch of foreigners up in there.   

Some locals and foreigners here in Sosua are definitely taking advantage of a bad situation and adapting.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 16, 2020, 08:14:13 AM
A WA message from one of my friends ( name hidden of course ) that went to kick it with a chick in Nagua :

[20:29, 9/15/2020] My buddy:  I’m still here in nagua but be coming back tomorrow or Thursday not sure yet what day
[20:29, 9/15/2020] My buddy: The curfew doesn’t exists out here it’s 8:30 and people are still hanging out little stores are open and ppl moving around like normal
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on September 16, 2020, 08:27:59 AM
It’ll be years before it’s back to something close to normal

The SU was dying / damn near dead pre covid ( flea markets and no classico or strip)

Post covid ...like most, it’ll take years for a solid comeback.

I don’t really want to get into this planDemic but the psychological impact has already taken hold , So even if they open things up people are not going to return so even if they open things up people are not going to return quickly, and this goes for everything.

Many people moved out of New York already, because Personal proximity is a priority NOW
MTA passengers have been down 75% for 6+ months . Imagine the weekly xx million loss , for 25 weeks ...????????‍♂️

If the changes don’t reverse course in a he SU, meaning open air market , freely walkin the Strip w hoes, no pressure no police chasing

The great it was, is what attracted so many men, that essence is gone.

Still a great time to be had but it’s definitely not the same as 2017 at the least
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 16, 2020, 10:57:20 AM
It's the glass full or half empty meaning while some think the Su is dead and buried others including my self se plenty of opportunitys. As old Rodney Danger field Quoted in Caddy Shack your gonna get laid!  Vets no how to navigate and newbies at least some. Bumped in to a cat at the Europa  said it was his first  time here and he was having a blast even gave the thumbs up to fellow vet mongers for good advice.  Think at this point barring any severe  Corona  out breaks things will get better hoe will still be here one way or an other.  Think the best Time her was in Dec 2017 per corona and pre crack down. Pedro  Cilante and dr rosen wall to wall hoes every size every  shape ,Colour, from every where Santiago Santo Dmingo and every where in between. Not sure if its coming back to those wild west times.  But bet it gets better as corona wanes and the economy  slowly recovers !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 16, 2020, 11:16:45 AM
The truth is that in a depressed economy, people look for ways to make more money. It is common knowledge that money can be made off tourists and there are tourists in Sosua. As longs as tourist keep coming to Sosua, so will people looking to make money. My whatsapp is always alive with requests for money and those same requestors are looking for money from any and every opportunity on the island.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on September 16, 2020, 11:20:49 AM
All depends on what one defines as "Normal"

The wild and crazy days of the past are likely gone forever but that doesn't mean that you can't still have a good time

Part of what made it fun was the ability to go to wide variety of places at almost any time of the day or night.

For that to happen the curfew must go away for there to be any chance of a reasonable return to normalcy in the future.

The chicas are there and will always be there if you know how to find them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 18, 2020, 06:45:13 PM
It's Friday,  September 18th.   A lot of tourists and chicas on the beach.   The amount of guys and chicas I saw on the beach today looked like it was the beginning of Super Bowl week.     A lot of guys were in groups,  with hustlers in a frenzy trying to latch on to any and every tourist they could.    Of course the same chicas everybody sees daily, but even more chicas seem to have come to Sosua.   It's to the point,  its very common to see a chica now wearing an Ahnvee wristband.   

And if Im not mistaken,  Ahnvee may be filled to capacity or almost there.  Last night Im told, Ahnvee was lit with a mass of people.  And Im sure it will be the same tonight if not more than last night.   

Something interesting to ponder.   Were still in the middle of a pandemic.  There are no clubs open or baddies in clubs to rely on.  Not in Sosua, Puerto Plata, Santiago or Santo Domingo ( unless they are operating underground ).    And yet as bad as some people talk about Sosua, and how lame dudes are for going,   this place is still a huge draw.   

I say take this as a lesson.  This is proof, that you dont need a club, or to hang out at any elite environment.   You can make lemonade out of lemons. Adapt and keep it moving.   There are many guys here.   Some are fishing within Sosua, others got connections outside of Sosua.  Some are doing a little of both.   Dont let small minds try to pigeonhole what you are about or capable of.    Now, nobody can say shit about anybody not going to a club.   Aint no clubs open to go to.   Has the world come to an end yet?  f--k no!   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 18, 2020, 07:05:19 PM
Myself and some of my friends have been noticing some of these chicas are appearing desperate for clients.   Im even getting chicas I used to hit coming up to me asking me to contact them so they can make some money.   Usually since were all like fixtures in Sosua,  everybody pays each other no mind.   However enough of these chicks are feeling the pressure to snag clients.   Especially with all of these newbie chicks arriving on the scene to make some money.

And like I said in a previous post.  What appears to be going on.  You got more chicks coming to Sosua to make money.  Chicas still outnumbering potential clients.  And even with the potential clients on scene, a lot of guys arent hiring these chicks at any record speed.  Many guys are taking their time.  Watching and observing, before pulling the trigger.   Some chicks may be getting more business than others.   

Certainly some chicks are giving out their number more than others.   Whether they are getting hired is another story.   Why?   Some chicks are quoting high prices, but ready to be broke down.  But there are enough that wont budge on wanting $100 and up.   And thats for ST, not TLN.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on September 19, 2020, 01:56:20 AM
^ Hence another reason not one of them should be getting $150 unless she is cooking three meals, cleaning, etc.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on September 19, 2020, 08:22:50 AM
Myself and some of my friends have been noticing some of these chicas are appearing desperate for clients.   Im even getting chicas I used to hit coming up to me asking me to contact them so they can make some money.   Usually since were all like fixtures in Sosua,  everybody pays each other no mind.   However enough of these chicks are feeling the pressure to snag clients.   Especially with all of these newbie chicks arriving on the scene to make some money.

And like I said in a previous post.  What appears to be going on.  You got more chicks coming to Sosua to make money.  Chicas still outnumbering potential clients.  And even with the potential clients on scene, a lot of guys arent hiring these chicks at any record speed.  Many guys are taking their time.  Watching and observing, before pulling the trigger.   Some chicks may be getting more business than others.   

Certainly some chicks are giving out their number more than others.   Whether they are getting hired is another story.   Why?   Some chicks are quoting high prices, but ready to be broke down.  But there are enough that wont budge on wanting $100 and up.   And thats for ST, not TLN.

Thanks for excellent observations and analysis. Other than some chicas demanding $100 and up ST, the desperation was obvious during my 2 week visit in July. I’m back for two weeks in early October. My max will be 2 mil. 1500 pesos probably ends up being my average.

Trump has been pumping money into the economy at a record pace. If re-elected, that’s in question right now, the pumping will end. China Joe would be completely lost. A financial meltdown is predictable and potentially world wide. Mongers coming from the big cities don’t get it. Their government jobs and pensions aren’t safe. Republicans are refusing to bailout horribly mismanaged Democrat cities and states. High flying, trash talkers won’t be paying those high prices much longer. In October, my guess is that Sosua remains a “name your own price environment”. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: funincolo on September 19, 2020, 10:01:49 AM
http://noticiasenn.net/hotel-manager-disappears-in-sosua?fbclid=IwAR0WhEiUwIaTYxT1DH0uiFtwP1N8lJVEJdvtnbu6XOySS0frrCyxp2uzadk

SOSUA.- PUERTO PLATA.- This Friday, the disappearance of the manager of the Romannoff hotel in this municipality was reported, which has been missing for 2 days after having a strong discussion with a client.

This is David Snopek, of Czech nationality, according to a witness who spoke with NoticiasENN, the hotel manager was threatened with death by a guest, but it is presumed that he could leave the country in the next few hours, since the recordings of the dispute were deleted of the hotel security system.

The hotel owners publicly request the authorities of the Puerto Plata Prosecutor’s Office, the Dominican Republic National Police and other organizations to initiate an investigation into the whereabouts of David Snopek.

If you have seen it or have any information here are the contacts. Tel: (829) 750-0588 Whasatpp +420 777 559 905.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on September 21, 2020, 05:07:23 AM
Sept 8 to Sept 19
Agree with others. Chiacs are getting desparate.  Chicas hanging out at places like Rumbas and Europa as early as 9am lookiing for early clients.  Quality lf chicas on PC is low.  Construction happening at the old Burbon Street.  Rumbas, playa Sosua and Ahnvee are the only spots to be at if looking for some quality imo.
Still possible to have company after the curfew.  Had a chica walk to my hotel after curfew.  Best to have a reliable taxi or moto on speed dial.  Taxis 300dop to 400dop. Motos 200dop (only had 1 chica check me after curfew on a moto) 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 21, 2020, 07:14:27 AM
Public Health Official ( in Puerto Plata ) wants Puerto Plata Province Beaches Closed???   

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/09/20/dominican-public-health-in-puerto-plata-defends-restrictions-on-beaches-and-boardwalk/

September 20, 2020
Puerto Plata. The Public Health authorities defended the measures of restrictions on beaches throughout the province to prevent the increase in Covid 19.

The provincial director of Public Health in Puerto Plata, Johnny Rafael Tavárez Capellán, assured that the restrictive actions taken in this jurisdiction have begun to give positive results in recent days.

He explained that the provision by which vehicle parking is prohibited on the Malecón avenue in San Felipe de Puerto Plata has had a positive impact on preventing the coronavirus spread. He warned that among the measures taken in Puerto there is also the partial closure of the Teco beaches in Maimón, Cofresí, Costámbar, Long Beach, and El Pueblito de Playa Dorada, in addition to the beaches of Sosúa.

The official said that large crowds of people gathered in several sections of the Malecón were “breeding grounds” for new coronavirus infections.


My perspective and what I know thus far :     The rumors were flying days before about Sosua Beach was going to be closed this past weekend.   That did not happen.   I enjoyed the beach the whole day Saturday ( up to 5pm curfew ).  I did not go to the beach Sunday, but the beach was open .  Not only open but the beach was packed.  Dominicans came from everywhere for family day.   Cars parked on the highway on both sides of the road.  And of course in the parking lot and spaces on both sides of the beach.

According to my sources The Major of the Politur Police came to Sosua Beach to potentially shut down part of the beach ( active bathing/swimming ).   And the reason for this was not particularly about social distancing , Covid or crowd control.   Apparently the North Coast has been experiencing very choppy waves at it's shore line.   And that has also been a concern of the authorities in regards to protecting the public.  Very easy for people swimming to get caught up in very aggressive waves.  Many people have lost their lives because the currents were too strong.   

So Politur major came to Sosua Beach to check out the beach and to see for himself.   My source says he spoke to some of the businesses and basically said he wasnt interested in closing the beach or causing businesses to lose business.   He is there for the safety of the people.  My understanding , is that Politur Major allowed the people to remain in the water.   Maybe he didnt see any imminent danger at Sosua beach.   Especially since it is tucked in a bay somewhat. 

In the city of Puerto Plata , and many of the other beaches along the coast line,  those waves may not have any type of buffer to decrease their intensity.  So swimming in those waters is more dangerous.  And therefore there was no partial closure for those beaches.  People were forbidden to use the beach altogether.

Bottom line,  Sosua beach seems to be safe from the authorities closing it due to Covid or social distancing, or restricting it's use because of the aggressive wave activity.     Stay tuned for updates, this can all change.   To be continued..........
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 21, 2020, 07:49:02 AM
Sept 8 to Sept 19
Agree with others. Chiacs are getting desparate.  Chicas hanging out at places like Rumbas and Europa as early as 9am lookiing for early clients.  Quality lf chicas on PC is low.  Construction happening at the old Burbon Street.  Rumbas, playa Sosua and Ahnvee are the only spots to be at if looking for some quality imo.
Still possible to have company after the curfew.  Had a chica walk to my hotel after curfew.  Best to have a reliable taxi or moto on speed dial.  Taxis 300dop to 400dop. Motos 200dop (only had 1 chica check me after curfew on a moto)
The question though,  how desperate are these chicas really?   We know many are making themselves available.  We know they are asking to get together.   Many are trying to be seductive, in how they go about it.  Have that look like, "why dont you help out an old friend?" approach.   

I have to say, that in of itself is not true desperation.  Thats just a different form of con, just to drum up business.   Thats a lot like those customer hunters/hustlers on the beach with a menu in their hands, trying to get tourists or anybody to stop to eat and drink at their spot.  The Modest Operandi is identical.   Just like when those small kids in Sosua learned to walk around holding their bellies, hoping people would feel pity for them, and part with some pesos.   Kid gets the money, and forgets who you are once the transaction is complete.  Off to the next sucker.

The key is,  as long as you have something they want, you are in control.  The moment you give in,  they transition in character like an incubus.  And they can do that even before they collect from you.   Part of the strength of the con is the power of persuasion or seduction.  It's one thing to get something from you.  But in this environment,  the ability to persuade or seduce people to stop and pay attention is a formidable power move when dealing with people.   Motoconchos, vendors, hustlers, chicas, beggars all try to get your attention.  Calling you, making noises,  they "my fren" you to death, "Psssst" at you.  Anything to get you to react or respond.       

If they can convince you to stop what you are doing or contemplating, and give them attention,  now they got you.   Receiving your money, gifts, drinks, food is a minor formality.   Even if they take an L.   They still sharpen their skills with repetition and new meat. 

So how do we know if a chick is really desperate?  Hint.  It aint because she makes her self available.  It isnt because she starts early in the day.   Thats just a chica trying to catch early suckers.   The key to desperation is in what she is willing to sacrifice for your business/interest.   If you step to a chick in your face, and you are going through up and down negotiations, that is not a desperate chick.   

She got you to stop, pay her attention,  only to find yourself negotiating with the chick???    A desperate chick is one that will accept your price and actually mean it with no hesitation.  She's not handing out prices,(  unless it's pretty low ) , and if she does,  she is serious about going for that price.   That is a desperate chick.   

Almost anything above that may be a con game.   The lost leader game.  Bait and switch.   Her attitude and her price.   Them types need to be left alone.   Im not advocating getting with desperate chicks,  Im not advocating avoiding them either,  but just know what you are potentially dealing with.   Dont assume any chick is desperate just because she is all up in your grill.   Or because she ignored you or never paid you any mind before.   Business is business.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 21, 2020, 05:54:56 PM
Correction to Sundays Sosua beach report.   It was not Mayor Willy that came to Sosua beach Sunday to monitor the aggressive waves concerns.  It was the Major of the Politur Police.   I heard it wrong in the audio that was sent to me by my source with a business on the beach.

Okay today is Monday September 21, 2020.  Sosua beach was open.  Bathing and swimming, no problem.  All of the water sports were available for hire.   Currents and waves were normal.   Less people today than yesterday.  Maybe 2/3rds less.    Same chicas on patrol looking for work.   Nice complement of locals ( families, couples, singles )  enjoying a day at the beach.   Maybe 30 or slightly more tourist guys on the beach.   Not necessarily looking like they were on patrol for chicas,  but on the beach to enjoy the day, have lunch and socialize with their friends.   

I swear enough of these chicas seem to be walking around with a bewildered look on their faces, and at the same time  pretending as if every thing is okay.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 21, 2020, 10:28:31 PM
Public Health Official ( in Puerto Plata ) wants Puerto Plata Province Beaches Closed???   

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/09/20/dominican-public-health-in-puerto-plata-defends-restrictions-on-beaches-and-boardwalk/

September 20, 2020
Puerto Plata. The Public Health authorities defended the measures of restrictions on beaches throughout the province to prevent the increase in Covid 19.

The provincial director of Public Health in Puerto Plata, Johnny Rafael Tavárez Capellán, assured that the restrictive actions taken in this jurisdiction have begun to give positive results in recent days.

He explained that the provision by which vehicle parking is prohibited on the Malecón avenue in San Felipe de Puerto Plata has had a positive impact on preventing the coronavirus spread. He warned that among the measures taken in Puerto there is also the partial closure of the Teco beaches in Maimón, Cofresí, Costámbar, Long Beach, and El Pueblito de Playa Dorada, in addition to the beaches of Sosúa.

The official said that large crowds of people gathered in several sections of the Malecón were “breeding grounds” for new coronavirus infections.


My perspective and what I know thus far :     The rumors were flying days before about Sosua Beach was going to be closed this past weekend.   That did not happen.   I enjoyed the beach the whole day Saturday ( up to 5pm curfew ).  I did not go to the beach Sunday, but the beach was open .  Not only open but the beach was packed.  Dominicans came from everywhere for family day.   Cars parked on the highway on both sides of the road.  And of course in the parking lot and spaces on both sides of the beach.

According to my sources The Major of the Politur Police came to Sosua Beach to potentially shut down part of the beach ( active bathing/swimming ).   And the reason for this was not particularly about social distancing , Covid or crowd control.   Apparently the North Coast has been experiencing very choppy waves at it's shore line.   And that has also been a concern of the authorities in regards to protecting the public.  Very easy for people swimming to get caught up in very aggressive waves.  Many people have lost their lives because the currents were too strong.   

So Politur major came to Sosua Beach to check out the beach and to see for himself.   My source says he spoke to some of the businesses and basically said he wasnt interested in closing the beach or causing businesses to lose business.   He is there for the safety of the people.  My understanding , is that Politur Major allowed the people to remain in the water.   Maybe he didnt see any imminent danger at Sosua beach.   Especially since it is tucked in a bay somewhat. 

In the city of Puerto Plata , and many of the other beaches along the coast line,  those waves may not have any type of buffer to decrease their intensity.  So swimming in those waters is more dangerous.  And therefore there was no partial closure for those beaches.  People were forbidden to use the beach altogether.

Bottom line,  Sosua beach seems to be safe from the authorities closing it due to Covid or social distancing, or restricting it's use because of the aggressive wave activity.     Stay tuned for updates, this can all change.   To be continued..........
Funny as i was Costombar beach  not far from Black beards last week  during the week day   ghost town  maby 25 locals  thats it,, no restictions !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 22, 2020, 07:56:07 AM
Public Health Official ( in Puerto Plata ) wants Puerto Plata Province Beaches Closed???   

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/09/20/dominican-public-health-in-puerto-plata-defends-restrictions-on-beaches-and-boardwalk/

September 20, 2020
Puerto Plata. The Public Health authorities defended the measures of restrictions on beaches throughout the province to prevent the increase in Covid 19.

The provincial director of Public Health in Puerto Plata, Johnny Rafael Tavárez Capellán, assured that the restrictive actions taken in this jurisdiction have begun to give positive results in recent days.

He explained that the provision by which vehicle parking is prohibited on the Malecón avenue in San Felipe de Puerto Plata has had a positive impact on preventing the coronavirus spread. He warned that among the measures taken in Puerto there is also the partial closure of the Teco beaches in Maimón, Cofresí, Costámbar, Long Beach, and El Pueblito de Playa Dorada, in addition to the beaches of Sosúa.

The official said that large crowds of people gathered in several sections of the Malecón were “breeding grounds” for new coronavirus infections.


My perspective and what I know thus far :     The rumors were flying days before about Sosua Beach was going to be closed this past weekend.   That did not happen.   I enjoyed the beach the whole day Saturday ( up to 5pm curfew ).  I did not go to the beach Sunday, but the beach was open .  Not only open but the beach was packed.  Dominicans came from everywhere for family day.   Cars parked on the highway on both sides of the road.  And of course in the parking lot and spaces on both sides of the beach.

According to my sources The Major of the Politur Police came to Sosua Beach to potentially shut down part of the beach ( active bathing/swimming ).   And the reason for this was not particularly about social distancing , Covid or crowd control.   Apparently the North Coast has been experiencing very choppy waves at it's shore line.   And that has also been a concern of the authorities in regards to protecting the public.  Very easy for people swimming to get caught up in very aggressive waves.  Many people have lost their lives because the currents were too strong.   

So Politur major came to Sosua Beach to check out the beach and to see for himself.   My source says he spoke to some of the businesses and basically said he wasnt interested in closing the beach or causing businesses to lose business.   He is there for the safety of the people.  My understanding , is that Politur Major allowed the people to remain in the water.   Maybe he didnt see any imminent danger at Sosua beach.   Especially since it is tucked in a bay somewhat. 

In the city of Puerto Plata , and many of the other beaches along the coast line,  those waves may not have any type of buffer to decrease their intensity.  So swimming in those waters is more dangerous.  And therefore there was no partial closure for those beaches.  People were forbidden to use the beach altogether.

Bottom line,  Sosua beach seems to be safe from the authorities closing it due to Covid or social distancing, or restricting it's use because of the aggressive wave activity.     Stay tuned for updates, this can all change.   To be continued..........
Funny as i was Costombar beach  not far from Black beards last week  during the week day   ghost town  maby 25 locals  thats it,, no restictions !
This seems typical.   News reports conflicting with what is actually happening.    In the article it mentioned Sosua and Costambar for partial closure.   You saw the beach in Costambar open a week ago, no restrictions.   No telling if something changed after you left?  Especially considering this news of closing beachs is only a couple of days old.  And so are the reports of the strong waves.     

For Sosua, this wasnt the 1st time, a report came out about Sosua beach was going to be closed,  and it ended up not being closed.   Cerise Fairfax had a quick exchange with Mayor Willy back in July.   She asked him if Sosua beach was going to be closed, and he told her , yes.    Of course that wasnt the case.  Sosua beach did not close.   So it's like we cant even rely on news publications for an accurate report on something they say is supposed to happen.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Martianfire1 on September 22, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 22, 2020, 09:50:30 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

I think the issue is that there's no consensus. You can offer 2000 to 10 chicas and 8 will say yes.  Also, you could ask 10 chicas and 9 will quote you a price higher than 2000. All of the chicas will try you on prices to see what the most is that they can get from you.  Remember, the day of the week will affect the price as well.  So as you can see, it's not cut and dried unless you have some experience with these chicas and even then you may want to rely on chicas that you've already had experiences with.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 22, 2020, 11:25:04 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!
Many dudes have been bamboozled when it comes to assessing Dominicans in this country.   Many erroneously assume, begging, doing p4p, hustling, being a vendor, stealing, deceiving, conning and scamming means they must be desperate.   

Shit ,even politicians and law enforcement have people doing that.   That dont make them desperate.   It just means they are untrustworthy.    And enough guys begin to feel sorry for locals that resort to that behavior.  They think it's out of desperation.   But what many wont consider, is that those things are just the negative aspect of what has become part of the culture and keys they adopted for survival.   

But anyway.  If you got the gist of what I said earlier in this thread.   A lot of these chicks are not desperate.   If anything, they are demonstrating more greed than before, not desperation.   Acting sincere, the facial pouting, looking sad hoping you'll deal with them on some level.  That is not desperation.  Thats acting.  Theatrics.    They know foreigners got money.  Lots of it.  So they have to act a certain way to get you to react against your best interests.    Local hustlers are telling these chicks everything they need to know about how much money we are bringing to the table.   The exchange rate, everything. 

Plus we tell on ourselves by way of social media and boots on the ground.  Wanting to invest and buy property.   Locals see this mindset, and they want to benefit from all of this money coming in.   At least with most expats, especially before me,  they kept their business and status private.   They werent flashy, spending money on villas and penthouses, and popping bottles and showing out in some night club.  Tourists did most of that shit.  They werent trying to spend $800 plus a month just to rent an apt.

Almost every thing that happens in the states and other places in the world, gets duplicated abroad.   Years ago people in the north east states started buying property in the south.   Southern real estate went sky high when they saw how eager northerners were in buying real estate.   You can bet that there were thousands of northerners that blurted out how cheap the property was in the south, and telling the southern real estate market how expensive it was up north.   So what did the south do?   Jacked the mutha blubbing prices up.   And that is exactly what muggs did to contribute to f--king things up aboard.    Not just in the DR or Sosua but around the world.     

If there is any form of desperation,  it's the fact that enough of these muggs want to work less and less than ever before.  In reality many of them dont even really want to provide services,  they just want the money.   Thats why enough of these scamming and slick chicks are popping up by the dozen.  Guy told me the other day of some chick that claimed she had to leave early.  Wanted the guy to pay her all of the money they agreed to, and that she would come back later.   Guy said no.  Too many stories of guys that paid a chick in full and they never came back.  Then when the guy spotted them,  bust out with bogus excuses and fake apologies.   That mugg wasnt sorry.  That mug was patting themselves on the back for what she was able to do.  And her amigas all toasted to it.   That helps reinforce that that shit works.   

A paid job, is a finished job.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 22, 2020, 11:45:52 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!
Many dudes have been bamboozled when it comes to assessing Dominicans in this country.   Many erroneously assume, begging, doing p4p, hustling, being a vendor, stealing, deceiving, conning and scamming means they must be desperate.   

Shit ,even politicians and law enforcement have people doing that.   That dont make them desperate.   It just means they are untrustworthy.    And enough guys begin to feel sorry for locals that resort to that behavior.  They think it's out of desperation.   But what many wont consider, is that those things are just the negative aspect of what has become part of the culture and keys they adopted for survival.   

But anyway.  If you got the gist of what I said earlier in this thread.   A lot of these chicks are not desperate.   If anything, they are demonstrating more greed than before, not desperation.    They know foreigners got money.  Lots of it.   Local hustlers are telling these chicks everything they need to know about how much money we are bringing to the table.   

Plus we tell on ourselves by way of social media and boots on the ground.  Wanting to invest and buy property.   Locals see this mindset, and they want to benefit from all of this money coming in.   At least with most expats, especially before me,  they kept their business and status private.   They werent flashy, spending money on villas and penthouses, and popping bottles and showing out in some night club.  Tourists did most of that shit.  They werent trying to spend $800 plus a month just to rent an apt.

Almost every thing that happens in the states and other places in the world, gets duplicated abroad.   Years ago people in the north east states started buying property in the south.   Southern real estate went sky high when they saw how eager northerners were in buying real estate.   You can bet that there were thousands of northerners that blurted out how cheap the property was in the south, and telling the southern real estate market how expensive it was up north.   So what did the south do?   Jacked the mutha blubbing prices up.   And that is exactly what muggs did to contribute to f--king things up aboard.    Not just in the DR or Sosua but around the world.     

If there is any form of desperation,  it's the fact that enough of these muggs want to work less and less than ever before.  In reality many of them dont even really want to provide services,  they just want the money.   Thats why enough of these scamming and slick chicks are popping up by the dozen.  Guy told me the other day of some chick that claimed she had to leave early.  Wanted the guy to pay her all of the money they agreed to, and that she would come back later.   Guy said no.  Too many stories of guys that paid a chick in full and they never came back.  Then when the guy spotted them,  bust out with bogus excuses and fake apologies.   That mugg wasnt sorry.  That mug was patting themselves on the back for what she was able to do.  And her amigas all toasted to it.   That helps reinforce that that shit works.   

A paid job, is a finished job.

Once money leaves your hand, you're done. In the DR that money is gone.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 23, 2020, 07:38:08 AM
Tuesday Sept 22, 2020    Went to the beach.   Beach was sort of dead.  It had that summer is over look.   50% chance of rain, so it was partly cloudy most of the afternoon.   The waves at the beach were very strong.   All of the excursion, fishing and tour boats were docked much further away from shore.   

About 25 to 35 people was seen in the water having fun being beat down by the tides.   At some point, the Politur police on their quad started patrolling back and forth along the beach ordering people out of the water.   Around 5ish the ploice had left the beach, and a few people were in the water again.  Mostly closer to the Sosua end of the beach.    The Los Charamicos end of the beach,  the waves were hitting the shore more aggressively, as well as the coastline walls.    Not the place anybody should be for swimming.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on September 23, 2020, 08:35:59 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 23, 2020, 08:48:56 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on September 23, 2020, 10:10:35 PM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bangher_leever on September 24, 2020, 09:13:37 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.


Chicas are flaky. standing you up or showing up 2 hours late after saying she'll be there in 20 mins.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 24, 2020, 09:19:02 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.


Chicas are flaky. standing you up or showing up 2 hours late after saying she'll be there in 20 mins.   
And show up with their pimp!  He was friendly, but..."Bro are you gonna sit on the sofa while I f--k her???"
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 24, 2020, 09:21:54 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.
Ok thanks for the feedback.  I think I understand your assessment of certain chicas seeming desperate.  I'd like to offer my assessment/perspective of what I see from the chicas I have observed.  Not discounting your perspective.      As for the p4p minded chicas, or the ones trying to get in the game :

When we were on lock down,  no new tourists were here.  Most of the hustlers, beggars, vendors, motoconchos  etc were not in Sosua.   Where ever chicas were at they were not starving.   But once the borders opened back up.   That threw every tourist minded local into a frenzy ( assumed as desperation ) trying to get to Sosua to benefit from all of that money that they expect tourists to bring. 

What I see is many of these chicas are dealing with the fact that the supply and demand curve in regards to p4p has shifted out of their favor during the course of the pandemic and lock down, and also since the borders re opened.  Less clients. Less tourists.  Less WU coming in.  And as a consequence many chicas are seeing less income coming in, even with tourists coming here.  And also what has happened, is more fresh meat ( especially younger chicks ) has joined the p4p game to add to their competition.   That also cuts into their income potential.  More people trying to get a piece of the action.

More and more chicas find themselves in the position of having to earn their money, with less clients available to them, and more women to compete with.   Forced to be less flaky, and forced to be on time to make sure somebody else doesnt get their money.   

What many of us assess as desperation IMO, is merely their behavior changing from being in a passive earning mode ,  to having to be in a more proactive earning mode.   Some chicks cant afford to sit on the sidelines waiting for business.  They have to work for it.     
And the more chicas try to pull the stunts they did before the pandemic, the more they will end up playing themselves and end up with nothing.   There will be other chicas around eager to take their place. 

     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DaManHawaii on September 24, 2020, 02:01:29 PM
I have been in contact with a number of chicas I may put in the rotation when I come back for 10 days in a couple of weeks.  What I am finding and this will be my second trip back since re-opening is that there are more chicas in the game. They are also sending more pics and videos advertising the goods which of course I verify with video chats.

I am more excited about this next trip as it appears more willing to come to Sosua.  In times past girls would not come there due to the reputation of the town. This is less the case now.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 24, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
I have been in contact with a number of chicas I may put in the rotation when I come back for 10 days in a couple of weeks.  What I am finding and this will be my second trip back since re-opening is that there are more chicas in the game. They are also sending more pics and videos advertising the goods which of course I verify with video chats.

I am more excited about this next trip as it appears more willing to come to Sosua. In times past girls would not come there due to the reputation of the town. This is less the case now.
In order for a lot of these chicas to get a piece of the action,  they are going to have to step up.  Because if they dont,  chicas that are more eager to get a piece of the action will have no problem doing what those other chicas refused to do.   

Reputation of the town may or may not apply.  Some chicks lie about that.  Many chicks might be doing quite well using social media.  And thats how they get their piece of the action.   The reputation of Sosua is that chicks actually have to work harder in order to get paid.   Whereas the chicks on social media find they can score clients easily and potentially work less.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 24, 2020, 02:51:42 PM
I agree because I got some real winners that are highly skilled with social media. Many are willing to perform with their cellphones to get paid and are pretty much guaranteed a session when boots are on the ground. Chicas that are not, or slow to market themselves, in this new millennia will be less likely to acquire returning/new customers.
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on September 24, 2020, 09:57:22 PM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.


Chicas are flaky. standing you up or showing up 2 hours late after saying she'll be there in 20 mins.   

They only do what we allow.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 25, 2020, 05:47:20 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.


Chicas are flaky. standing you up or showing up 2 hours late after saying she'll be there in 20 mins.   
And show up with their pimp!  He was friendly, but..."Bro are you gonna sit on the sofa while I f--k her???"
Gee you could of offered sloppy seconds  ha ha !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 25, 2020, 08:22:05 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.


Chicas are flaky. standing you up or showing up 2 hours late after saying she'll be there in 20 mins.   
And show up with their pimp!  He was friendly, but..."Bro are you gonna sit on the sofa while I f--k her???"
Gee you could of offered sloppy seconds  ha ha !

Bro, She was very late...but I had her price locked in already! That was a very busy day and I'm just one man! haha
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on September 25, 2020, 08:24:37 AM
I have been in contact with a number of chicas I may put in the rotation when I come back for 10 days in a couple of weeks.  What I am finding and this will be my second trip back since re-opening is that there are more chicas in the game. They are also sending more pics and videos advertising the goods which of course I verify with video chats.

I am more excited about this next trip as it appears more willing to come to Sosua.  In times past girls would not come there due to the reputation of the town. This is less the case now.

Always remember their are dozens of chicas turning from girls to women(18) EVERYDAY in the DR.....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bangher_leever on September 25, 2020, 08:41:42 AM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.


Chicas are flaky. standing you up or showing up 2 hours late after saying she'll be there in 20 mins.   

They only do what we allow.

ill wait for a bit 15/30? then move on regardless of sexy i think she is. NEXT!!!!!! 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Spanky27312 on September 25, 2020, 10:52:55 AM
https://youtu.be/uvC0qgHIQv4

What is really going on at Sosua beach.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 25, 2020, 11:10:09 AM
I dont get it,  everybody should know by now why the cops were doing that.    They ordered people out of the water to keep people safe.   They didnt want people setting up those lounge chairs and surf boards , as if going in the water was ok.   They probably told the vendors not to put them there, and the vendors , said f--k it.   

The last time I was there, the Politur police were on a quad going back and forth making sure nobody was in the water.  Around 5pm, when the Politur left,  some people got back in the water.  Friends of mine, that are great swimmers told me that the waves were too strong to be out there.  If they felt it was too dangerous, then I believe them.   

IMO, being in charge of public safety is oft times a thankless job.   Sometimes things are done for a reason that some people dont understand, or care to understand.   And you can easily piss off LE if they tell you not to do something, and they see you defied them.   

BTW reports and articles were posted all over the DR warning people of the dangers of the swells, tides and waves.   Very easily to get pulled away from shore, and possibly drown.  We pretty much know,  if LE did nothing , and someone drowned, they would be quick to blame LE for not warning people and not doing anything to protect the people. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on September 25, 2020, 11:31:03 AM
I dont get it,  everybody should know by now why the cops were doing that.    They ordered people out of the water to keep people safe.   They didnt want people setting up those lounge chairs and surf boards , as if going in the water was ok.   They probably told the vendors not to put them there, and the vendors , said f--k it.   

The last time I was there, the Politur police were on a quad going back and forth making sure nobody was in the water.  Around 5pm, when the Politur left,  some people got back in the water.  Friends of mine, that are great swimmers told me that the waves were too strong to be out there.  If they felt it was too dangerous, then I believe them.   

IMO, being in charge of public safety is oft times a thankless job.   Sometimes things are done for a reason that some people dont understand, or care to understand.   And you can easily piss off LE if they tell you not to do something, and they see you defied them.   

BTW reports and articles were posted all over the DR warning people of the dangers of the swells, tides and waves.   Very easily to get pulled away from shore, and possibly drown.  We pretty much know,  if LE did nothing , and someone drowned, they would be quick to blame LE for not warning people and not doing anything to protect the people.
Mr.T failed to mention any of what you just said. He KNEW the water was a risk that day and knew the situation and why police did what they did. He's a Conspiracy Theorist and chose to mislead people with this video. Does that remind you of anybody in office right now? It's just what these people do. This dude will have his day if he keeps this s**t up. Early in the video he says the police "wouldn't know how to make a dollar if their life depended on it". Well, my last trip there, he himself outright asked me to give him $30 for his YouTube work...lol  I guess that's his idea of making an honest dollar. SMH
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 27, 2020, 06:09:32 PM
I dont get it,  everybody should know by now why the cops were doing that.    They ordered people out of the water to keep people safe.   They didnt want people setting up those lounge chairs and surf boards , as if going in the water was ok.   They probably told the vendors not to put them there, and the vendors , said f--k it.   

The last time I was there, the Politur police were on a quad going back and forth making sure nobody was in the water.  Around 5pm, when the Politur left,  some people got back in the water.  Friends of mine, that are great swimmers told me that the waves were too strong to be out there.  If they felt it was too dangerous, then I believe them.   

IMO, being in charge of public safety is oft times a thankless job.   Sometimes things are done for a reason that some people dont understand, or care to understand.   And you can easily piss off LE if they tell you not to do something, and they see you defied them.   

BTW reports and articles were posted all over the DR warning people of the dangers of the swells, tides and waves.   Very easily to get pulled away from shore, and possibly drown.  We pretty much know,  if LE did nothing , and someone drowned, they would be quick to blame LE for not warning people and not doing anything to protect the people.
Mr.T failed to mention any of what you just said. He KNEW the water was a risk that day and knew the situation and why police did what they did. He's a Conspiracy Theorist and chose to mislead people with this video. Does that remind you of anybody in office right now? It's just what these people do. This dude will have his day if he keeps this s**t up. Early in the video he says the police "wouldn't know how to make a dollar if their life depended on it". Well, my last trip there, he himself outright asked me to give him $30 for his YouTube work...lol  I guess that's his idea of making an honest dollar. SMH
I noticed that!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 27, 2020, 06:17:44 PM
Sunday Sept 27th 2020

Lovely family day at the beach.   Water was very calm.  Everything looking normal.  Swimming, bathing, water sports, boating, lounge chairs, surf boards etc.   Many locals coming from all over to enjoy a day at the beach.   More guys have arrived in the last few days.   Groups, walking the beach.   

Remember tomorrow, Monday Sept 28th 2020 we start our new curfew hours.   M-F 9pm to 5am, Sat & Sun 7pm to 5am.   

It gets dark right before 7pm.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Martianfire1 on September 28, 2020, 11:32:35 AM
I used to watch Mr. T for his content, but since the pandemic, he has shown himself to be a conspiracy  not. He gives off information that maybe dangerous. Here in New York I know two people, in their 40's, who were relatively healthy, that passed away due to covid.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 29, 2020, 07:31:01 AM
Imma little late posting this,  but at least 2 or three days ago.  Bailee's restaurant bar has reopened.   I had one report from an expat friend who dined there 3 days ago.   He said the place was full of chicas , when he went there for breakfast with his GF. 
Only a few tourist were in there dining.   Yesterday I passed by in the morning,  and saw 3 or 4 tables occupied with tourists.   I didnt see any chicas in there posted up, YET.   

What I am looking forward to being open,  is the Dominican restaurant off to the side ( of Bailee's ) where the pizza oven is.   Usually from 11 until about 1 or 2,  they serve lunch.   Have to get there early because the locals and foreigners roll through very quickly to get food before it's sold out.   Additionally orders are called in by phone, and put to the side for take out.   I'll report their status soon enough.     

New Garden restaurant is open too.    Im still looking for signs of Terra Lindas restaurant.  Bologna is open.   And Osteria Toscana ( across from Flip Flop ) is open.   The Elefante Rojo Italian restaurant on PC is open.   The German restaurant almost next to it is open ( the one with the yummy desserts ).   

There are a few more.   Hard to remember them all.   But the main ones that were closed,  are beginning to open back up. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 29, 2020, 07:36:48 AM
Monday Sept 28th 2020         The old spot where Bourbon Street was ( Pedro Clisante ) is looking more and more like it might be a food market,  like someone here mentioned.   I saw what looked like shelving materials inside ready to be installed.  And the construction of the interior is looking more and more like a finished job.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on September 29, 2020, 01:33:30 PM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.
Ok thanks for the feedback.  I think I understand your assessment of certain chicas seeming desperate.  I'd like to offer my assessment/perspective of what I see from the chicas I have observed.  Not discounting your perspective.      As for the p4p minded chicas, or the ones trying to get in the game :

When we were on lock down,  no new tourists were here.  Most of the hustlers, beggars, vendors, motoconchos  etc were not in Sosua.   Where ever chicas were at they were not starving.   But once the borders opened back up.   That threw every tourist minded local into a frenzy ( assumed as desperation ) trying to get to Sosua to benefit from all of that money that they expect tourists to bring. 

What I see is many of these chicas are dealing with the fact that the supply and demand curve in regards to p4p has shifted out of their favor during the course of the pandemic and lock down, and also since the borders re opened.  Less clients. Less tourists.  Less WU coming in.  And as a consequence many chicas are seeing less income coming in, even with tourists coming here.  And also what has happened, is more fresh meat ( especially younger chicks ) has joined the p4p game to add to their competition.   That also cuts into their income potential.  More people trying to get a piece of the action.

More and more chicas find themselves in the position of having to earn their money, with less clients available to them, and more women to compete with.   Forced to be less flaky, and forced to be on time to make sure somebody else doesnt get their money.   

What many of us assess as desperation IMO, is merely their behavior changing from being in a passive earning mode ,  to having to be in a more proactive earning mode.   Some chicks cant afford to sit on the sidelines waiting for business.  They have to work for it.     
And the more chicas try to pull the stunts they did before the pandemic, the more they will end up playing themselves and end up with nothing.   There will be other chicas around eager to take their place. 

     

Murano:  yes, you are a great writer and philosopher. We are saying the same thing. Bottom line for daytime mongers with a car, not range bound, is the current economy works in our favor.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 29, 2020, 03:23:43 PM
Monday Sept 28th 2020         The old spot where Bourbon Street was ( Pedro Clisante ) is looking more and more like it might be a food market,  like someone here mentioned.   I saw what looked like shelving materials inside ready to be installed.  And the construction of the interior is looking more and more like a finished job.
I thought so , Sirs kiss the old strip good bye its not comming back the train has left the Station,, How ever its not doom and gloom, chicas are still going to be there albeit scattered in differnt locations,, Hope the New entertainment center opens soon  more opertunities and chica gathering spots !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: VivaLaVega on September 29, 2020, 03:48:11 PM
Murano....

20 pages on this thread. Well done. But maybe it’s time to let it slide into the archives and drop “Current observations October” . I appreciate the first hand info, just get a little tired of scrolling.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on September 29, 2020, 04:15:58 PM
Imma little late posting this,  but at least 2 or three days ago.  Bailee's restaurant bar has reopened.   I had one report from an expat friend who dined there 3 days ago.   He said the place was full of chicas , when he went there for breakfast with his GF. 
Only a few tourist were in there dining.   Yesterday I passed by in the morning,  and saw 3 or 4 tables occupied with tourists.   I didnt see any chicas in there posted up, YET.   

What I am looking forward to being open,  is the Dominican restaurant off to the side ( of Bailee's ) where the pizza oven is.   Usually from 11 until about 1 or 2,  they serve lunch.   Have to get there early because the locals and foreigners roll through very quickly to get food before it's sold out.   Additionally orders are called in by phone, and put to the side for take out.   I'll report their status soon enough.     

New Garden restaurant is open too.    Im still looking for signs of Terra Lindas restaurant.  Bologna is open.   And Osteria Toscana ( across from Flip Flop ) is open.   The Elefante Rojo Italian restaurant on PC is open.   The German restaurant almost next to it is open ( the one with the yummy desserts ).   

There are a few more.   Hard to remember them all.   But the main ones that were closed,  are beginning to open back up.

Bailees reopens gives me hope for Sosua to get back to some normalcy. All we need now is for Classico and some of the other establishments on Pedro Clissante to reopen and the curfew to be lifted
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 29, 2020, 04:41:51 PM
Good day, I'm a bit confused. I see many are posting that the chicas are desperate for money, and others are saying that many chicas are asking for $100. for short stay, which does not sound desperate to me. Which is it? Thanks!

My observations of July for over two weeks is they are desperate. Ahnvee was open intermittently. Not the case now, it’s the hotspot and probably has a captive audience. Those that are range bound are no doubt paying higher prices.

Currently it’s daytime action. A few of us thrive in that environment, don’t care for the nighttime scene. We generally stay well off the strip and have a car.

Are the chicas desperate?  Hell yes!  They just hide it better at Ahnvee.

Just as an aside:  some of us old guys may have bigger brokerage accounts and plan on keeping it that way. Guess I can trash talk too.
Raul I may agree with you, if I had some examples to go by.   Could you give us some examples of how chicas are desperate?   Desperate in what context?

They are desperate for money to buy food and pay rent.  More than once they’d ask to stop at a store to buy food as I drove them home. Another example is not a single chica stood me up. That hasnt been my experience in the past. Often I’d find them on Badoo in Puerto Plata and pick them up at The town square. These were part timers in my opinion that were happy to earn a little money and be driven back to their homes in Puerto Plata. None of them were looking for a transportation to Sosua. Get in and get out seemed to be their MO. Offer 1500 pesos and they almost never tried to negotiate higher. Another thing I noticed is some that appeared new to the game were with another woman and being coached. I’m the next island over, economic times are tough here. You live there and see first hand the economic impact of the COVID-19. My expat buddies talk about it all the time.
Ok thanks for the feedback.  I think I understand your assessment of certain chicas seeming desperate.  I'd like to offer my assessment/perspective of what I see from the chicas I have observed.  Not discounting your perspective.      As for the p4p minded chicas, or the ones trying to get in the game :

When we were on lock down,  no new tourists were here.  Most of the hustlers, beggars, vendors, motoconchos  etc were not in Sosua.   Where ever chicas were at they were not starving.   But once the borders opened back up.   That threw every tourist minded local into a frenzy ( assumed as desperation ) trying to get to Sosua to benefit from all of that money that they expect tourists to bring. 

What I see is many of these chicas are dealing with the fact that the supply and demand curve in regards to p4p has shifted out of their favor during the course of the pandemic and lock down, and also since the borders re opened.  Less clients. Less tourists.  Less WU coming in.  And as a consequence many chicas are seeing less income coming in, even with tourists coming here.  And also what has happened, is more fresh meat ( especially younger chicks ) has joined the p4p game to add to their competition.   That also cuts into their income potential.  More people trying to get a piece of the action.

More and more chicas find themselves in the position of having to earn their money, with less clients available to them, and more women to compete with.   Forced to be less flaky, and forced to be on time to make sure somebody else doesnt get their money.   

What many of us assess as desperation IMO, is merely their behavior changing from being in a passive earning mode ,  to having to be in a more proactive earning mode.   Some chicks cant afford to sit on the sidelines waiting for business.  They have to work for it.     
And the more chicas try to pull the stunts they did before the pandemic, the more they will end up playing themselves and end up with nothing.   There will be other chicas around eager to take their place. 

     

Murano:  yes, you are a great writer and philosopher. We are saying the same thing. Bottom line for daytime mongers with a car, not range bound, is the current economy works in our favor.
I feel you on that!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 29, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
Monday Sept 28th 2020         The old spot where Bourbon Street was ( Pedro Clisante ) is looking more and more like it might be a food market,  like someone here mentioned.   I saw what looked like shelving materials inside ready to be installed.  And the construction of the interior is looking more and more like a finished job.
I thought so , Sirs kiss the old strip good bye its not comming back the train has left the Station,, How ever its not doom and gloom, chicas are still going to be there albeit scattered in differnt locations,, Hope the New entertainment center opens soon  more opertunities and chica gathering spots !
You are correct.  It's not doom and gloom.  Sosua, of course the whole country is going through a transitional phase.  I got to see Sosua when things were super slow,  and I still enjoyed being here.    There was a time when I rotated about 6 to 10 chicas as regulars.   

Over the years one by one , several moved on.   Hey , If I found value in them, of course others did too.   Easy to get out bid.  Especially us expats.   But at the same time,  as they moved on,  it was a good thing.   Less money spent helping all of these women.   At times,  I felt like I needed to rebuild my roster of regulars.   However,  I now see the value of having only a couple.   

Shit if I was married, technically Im only supposed to be with one woman for the rest of my life.   So to have 2 to 3 regulars is no big deal.   It's not the end of my monger career.  LOL.    Enough guys who had regulars pre pandemic days, may have lost contact with them.   It's more challenging now to rebuild,  considering how the p4p game has evolved.    The quality of the connections have become more mechanical IMO. 

Anyway,  once it's safe to travel abroad, I'll be going to different places.   And I will have left my regulars in somebody elses hands, just like they would do with me.   

BTW there is no telling when they will allow the Big Sports Complex to open.   The country needs to be ready for discos, casinos and clubs to reopen.  And so far, were not sure when that will happen. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 29, 2020, 05:11:27 PM
Murano....

20 pages on this thread. Well done. But maybe it’s time to let it slide into the archives and drop “Current observations October” . I appreciate the first hand info, just get a little tired of scrolling.
I feel you on that VLV.   And you are correct.  However, I like this thread.   And I kinda get the idea that people expect to come back here to get new or updated information, primarily from me, and of course others that contribute to this thread.    On occasion I do start "new information" threads beside this one.  So to an extent,  I am kinda doing what you suggested.   Of course others here are following whats going on, and supplying new info posts/topics as well.   

So please bear with me,  while I keep this one going.  There will always be current information posts separate,  From me and from others.   I take it you dont visit the boards regularly?   If that is the case,  I could see how that would have anyone way behind on various topics.      Gracias mi hermano. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 29, 2020, 05:20:19 PM
Imma little late posting this,  but at least 2 or three days ago.  Bailee's restaurant bar has reopened.   I had one report from an expat friend who dined there 3 days ago.   He said the place was full of chicas , when he went there for breakfast with his GF. 
Only a few tourist were in there dining.   Yesterday I passed by in the morning,  and saw 3 or 4 tables occupied with tourists.   I didnt see any chicas in there posted up, YET.   

What I am looking forward to being open,  is the Dominican restaurant off to the side ( of Bailee's ) where the pizza oven is.   Usually from 11 until about 1 or 2,  they serve lunch.   Have to get there early because the locals and foreigners roll through very quickly to get food before it's sold out.   Additionally orders are called in by phone, and put to the side for take out.   I'll report their status soon enough.     

New Garden restaurant is open too.    Im still looking for signs of Terra Lindas restaurant.  Bologna is open.   And Osteria Toscana ( across from Flip Flop ) is open.   The Elefante Rojo Italian restaurant on PC is open.   The German restaurant almost next to it is open ( the one with the yummy desserts ).   

There are a few more.   Hard to remember them all.   But the main ones that were closed,  are beginning to open back up.

Bailees reopens gives me hope for Sosua to get back to some normalcy. All we need now is for Classico and some of the other establishments on Pedro Clissante to reopen and the curfew to be lifted
The DR, Sosua is making progress.   Dont forget Merengue Bar is open,  but they added a restaurant called Hot Pepper.   I guess if they didnt have the restaurant part open,  Merengue Bar alone  wouldnt be allowed to open?   

Across the street is Brick City Flames restaurant/bar ( Formerly Winner's Circle/Flame Bar ).   

Anything disco, club, casino related , where large groups are enclosed indoors is PROBABLY going to take more time before the authorities feel it's safe to allow them to open..   We just have to be patient.   But at least guys have at least one close proximity vacation spot to go to, abroad.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 30, 2020, 10:42:07 AM
To my dismay,  the Dominican restaurant connected to Bailee's restaurant is not open for business.  Bailee's restaurant is open, but as of 11:15am I did not see it packed with customers.  Maybe 4 or 5 tables occupied.   I saw more chicas in there than foreigners dining.   Since the whole day is ahead,  business may very well pick up throughout the day.   Im betting a lot of people are assuming Bailee's is still closed.   I was one of them.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Q on October 01, 2020, 10:31:11 PM
They recently opened last week.  It was packed last Friday.  Well, it appeared that way as I drove past it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DaManHawaii on October 02, 2020, 10:53:56 AM
So where are all the Haitian girls hanging out now? When I was in town in July there were not a lot of them running around.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 02, 2020, 11:01:43 AM
There's usually a good supply in Slemmerstueben/Bar Central. But for the best results, keep getting WA for proper retention. Them haitianas are always ready to work. For me, putting them on a roster works best!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on October 02, 2020, 02:27:10 PM
So where are all the Haitian girls hanging out now? When I was in town in July there were not a lot of them running around.

If you know a few, just ask them....they'll tell you.

One thing about pros, they'll always let you know where they congregate, and where to find them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 03, 2020, 04:59:08 PM
Platinum blonde weave/wigged chica, cute face/light skin,  a nice round ass.    About 5' 1".   She patrols all of the tourist venues in Sosua looking for work.  I think guys here talked about her here already.  I overheard a "how much baby?" convo,  with her and an interested monger, on the beach yesterday.   He stopped her briefly, asked her in English and she responded in perfect English "One Fifty".   

Dude was semi shocked, told her ok,  and he walked away to rejoin his buddy.   Meanwhile she casually walked away,  and continued looking for other potentials that might be impressed with her package.    IMO this chick is attractive enough where she shouldnt have to walk all over just to find clients.   But when you are asking for One Fifty for only an hour,  I guess she has to step up her game,  in order to find some fool willing to give it to her.   

If this chick was posted up in Rumba back in the day,  before these chicks were over charging,  she would be so busy either wifed up or heavily in demand.   She wouldnt have time to rest.    Her price gives her plenty of time to rest.   Whoever hires the chick, I hope she's worth it?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 03, 2020, 05:04:52 PM
Maybe a pic or if possible a youtube interview of her on what she thinks about the new club across from the police station
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 03, 2020, 07:45:19 PM
Maybe a pic or if possible a youtube interview of her o.n what she thinks about the new club across from the police station
I described her here, because I believe somebody here may have seen or ran into her.   She seems to be a fixture in Sosua these days.   I think she might have been discussed here and her pic posted, but not sure what thread it may be in.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 03, 2020, 10:08:40 PM
Is it her?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on October 04, 2020, 02:57:12 AM
If it's Sonia you are talking about, I deleted her last year because she started giving me a lot of attitude. I stopped trusting her as she became a little unpredictable and didn't want to take a chance that she may start some trouble. Never paid her that much.  She does have a big round fake booty.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on October 04, 2020, 06:17:55 AM
Is it her?

Her attitude sucks. Next.  Didn't know her ass is fake though.  She got a fat round, lil bubble.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 04, 2020, 07:40:53 AM
Is it her?
The chick in the pic almost looks like her, but her makeup is applied differently.  This chick is probably older than she tries to represent.    The color of the hair looks like the chick I keep seeing, but that is not the style she wears it now.  They can change their appearance quite easily, just by changing hair styles, eye lashes and makeup.    If I see her again,  Imma try to get her pic next time I spot her.   There arent that many blondes walking around. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 04, 2020, 07:43:49 AM
If it's Sonia you are talking about, I deleted her last year because she started giving me a lot of attitude. I stopped trusting her as she became a little unpredictable and didn't want to take a chance that she may start some trouble. Never paid her that much.  She does have a big round fake booty.
The one Im talking about,  the ass is not that big and round.  It's mostly round, and it doesnt look outrageously fake,  like some of the chicks that get implants.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 04, 2020, 07:50:57 AM
Is it her?

Her attitude sucks. Next.  Didn't know her ass is fake though.  She got a fat round, lil bubble.
And thats how I would describe the blonde I have been seeing on the beach and other places.   Round, lil bubble.  Not no gigantic ass.   If im mistaken,  there may be about 3 or 4 chicks walking around with blonde hair.   

One other blonde I recall the ass cheeks are ridiculously round and fat.   It looks ok from the side view, but when she passes,  that ass looks wide and fake as shit.   The legs and butt look a little off.   And the tight pants she usually wears looks like the pants are sticking up in her butt.    Like you can run your debit card down her turd cutter. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on October 04, 2020, 02:07:59 PM
Yeah I didn't mean huge fat round.  But it's a fat injected bubble butt.  And yeah she's older - I'm sure it's her
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on October 04, 2020, 02:10:07 PM
She's thin in the waist, at least she was last time I saw her.  Not a thick girl
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on October 04, 2020, 02:17:54 PM
If it's Sonia you are talking about, I deleted her last year because she started giving me a lot of attitude. I stopped trusting her as she became a little unpredictable and didn't want to take a chance that she may start some trouble. Never paid her that much.  She does have a big round fake booty.

Unpredictable in what way?  I had her last year and I guess i was lucky because she was great.  TLN for 4000.    We f--ked for so long in the morning that I was thinking she didnt want to leave!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 04, 2020, 02:32:17 PM
Well my gut tells me, a lot of these chicks with the platinum blonde look and round asses, are looking to get paid at least $100 and up.  It's like they think their particular look puts them in some sort of premium category.  They know they draw a lot of attention, because the 1st thing they notice is how guys react to seeing their round asses, followed by the rest of the package.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on October 04, 2020, 11:02:09 PM
If it's Sonia you are talking about, I deleted her last year because she started giving me a lot of attitude. I stopped trusting her as she became a little unpredictable and didn't want to take a chance that she may start some trouble. Never paid her that much.  She does have a big round fake booty.

Unpredictable in what way?  I had her last year and I guess i was lucky because she was great.  TLN for 4000.    We f--ked for so long in the morning that I was thinking she didnt want to leave!

So I returned to Sosua in Dec after being away for 3 months, I hit her up by whatsapp and she started claiming I got into it with her the week earlier (I wasn’t even in the country) she had me mixed up with someone else or was losing her mind.  Was making claims and accusations.  Next time I saw her she was still on the same shit but wanted to be cool.  I wasn’t taking any chances.  The whole thing was bizarre.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on October 05, 2020, 04:19:59 PM
If it's Sonia you are talking about, I deleted her last year because she started giving me a lot of attitude. I stopped trusting her as she became a little unpredictable and didn't want to take a chance that she may start some trouble. Never paid her that much.  She does have a big round fake booty.

Unpredictable in what way?  I had her last year and I guess i was lucky because she was great.  TLN for 4000.    We f--ked for so long in the morning that I was thinking she didnt want to leave!

So I returned to Sosua in Dec after being away for 3 months, I hit her up by whatsapp and she started claiming I got into it with her the week earlier (I wasn’t even in the country) she had me mixed up with someone else or was losing her mind.  Was making claims and accusations.  Next time I saw her she was still on the same shit but wanted to be cool.  I wasn’t taking any chances.  The whole thing was bizarre.

So how did you convince her that she had you mixed up with someone else?.....or did she ever get convinced?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on October 05, 2020, 05:13:50 PM
If it's Sonia you are talking about, I deleted her last year because she started giving me a lot of attitude. I stopped trusting her as she became a little unpredictable and didn't want to take a chance that she may start some trouble. Never paid her that much.  She does have a big round fake booty.

Unpredictable in what way?  I had her last year and I guess i was lucky because she was great.  TLN for 4000.    We f--ked for so long in the morning that I was thinking she didnt want to leave!

So I returned to Sosua in Dec after being away for 3 months, I hit her up by whatsapp and she started claiming I got into it with her the week earlier (I wasn’t even in the country) she had me mixed up with someone else or was losing her mind.  Was making claims and accusations.  Next time I saw her she was still on the same shit but wanted to be cool.  I wasn’t taking any chances.  The whole thing was bizarre.

So how did you convince her that she had you mixed up with someone else?.....or did she ever get convinced?

She had accused me of being an asshole to her in a bar, I told her I wasn’t even in the country, she called me a liar and claimed it was me.  I dropped it and left her alone.  Never responded to her after that and deleted her.  I don’t need any drama on vacation - I go to the DR for a break from that shit
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 05, 2020, 05:54:50 PM
LoL! She might be confusing the two of us. I was an asshole to her in Merengue,  because their was so much talent an she wanted to preen. I wasn't having it so I shut her down quick and picked a white dominicana by her and walked out arm in arm. Sorry about that..haha btw you must be really ugly if she got us confused.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 06, 2020, 07:55:29 AM
LoL! She might be confusing the two of us. I was an asshole to her in Merengue,  because the was so much talent an she wanted to preen. I was having it so I shut her down quick and picked a white dominicana by her and walked out arm in arm. Sorry about that..haha btw you must be really ugly if she got us confused.

Well damn......lmao????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: funincolo on October 06, 2020, 08:41:20 AM
I love Sosua
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TonyT on October 06, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
There too many chicas to be having drama with one.....unless that pussy drops out gold after you smash it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on October 06, 2020, 11:32:35 PM
Can guys with boots on the ground give an honest assessment of the quality of chicas in town. I'm either going back to sosua or going over to tijuana the first weekend in November and want to know what i',m dealing with looks wise, thanks all.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 07, 2020, 12:22:10 AM
Go to TJ! It's really good and Sosua will wait for you to visit afterwards.  TJ is like the US only cheaper and Sosua is a fantasy island experience.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 07, 2020, 01:34:51 AM
Can guys with boots on the ground give an honest assessment of the quality of chicas in town. I either going back to sosua or going over to tijuana the first weekend in November and want to know what i',m dealing with looks wise, thanks all.

As it gets closer to christmas there are always a lot of girls in Sosua. With the bleak job situation caused by covid there should be even more girls in town this year. Dominicanas in general are attractive. With a large number of women in town there will definitely be some quality females in attendance. Personally I prefer Sosua over TJ. Sosua is much more laid back and the odds of you being able to spend an entire day with a knock out chick for what you'd pay for an hour session in TJ is pretty darn high.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on October 07, 2020, 12:03:59 PM
Can guys with boots on the ground give an honest assessment of the quality of chicas in town. I either going back to sosua or going over to tijuana the first weekend in November and want to know what i',m dealing with looks wise, thanks all.
Not sure if you're familiar with it, but here's a site on Tijuana. It may help you make a decision on which place is best right now during the Pandemic.    https://www.tijuanatalk.net/
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 07, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
Wed October 7, 2020 1:45pm

Update on the construction going on at the old Bourbon Street location on PC.   I know someone said that this new construction was likely to be a colmado or supermercado.   But looking at some of the interior design and glass show cases,  it's beginning to look more and more like the Chinese owned business across the street.   Of course the finished product has a ways to go,  but they are making progress.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 07, 2020, 07:19:29 PM
Was at the beach today,  saw both platinum blonde chicks.  The $150 one with the normal sized bubble butt,  and the thicker one with the fat/wider round ass,  that looks like you could slide a credit card down the cheeks.   I took pics, but the forum wont allow me to up load them.    I have had trouble before trying post pics and failed.   I also failed trying to purchase a subscription in the past.   Oh well, I tried. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on October 07, 2020, 07:58:29 PM
Was at the beach today,  saw both platinum blonde chicks.  The $150 one with the normal sized bubble butt,  and the thicker one with the fat/wider round ass,  that looks like you could slide a credit card down the cheeks.   I took pics, but the forum wont allow me to up load them.    I have had trouble before trying post pics and failed.   I also failed trying to purchase a subscription in the past.   Oh well, I tried.

Slightly crop the pic, it’ll upload then
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 07, 2020, 08:23:14 PM
I couldnt get a facial pic,  but thats her body profile
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 07, 2020, 08:33:44 PM
Thick Blonde chica.    Damn about muthablubbing time.    Too large, crop, shows up rotated.  WTF?    Ok I got it now.  All this trouble for 2 lousy pics?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 07, 2020, 08:42:24 PM
Was at the beach today,  saw both platinum blonde chicks.  The $150 one with the normal sized bubble butt,  and the thicker one with the fat/wider round ass,  that looks like you could slide a credit card down the cheeks.   I took pics, but the forum wont allow me to up load them.    I have had trouble before trying post pics and failed.   I also failed trying to purchase a subscription in the past.   Oh well, I tried.

Slightly crop the pic, it’ll upload then
Thanks.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on October 07, 2020, 09:27:29 PM
I couldnt get a facial pic,  but thats her body profile
That ass might not be legit. Them compression shorts purposely shape girls to look better than reality. It’s like a bra but for the ass. 150 for fake hair and body deception? I hope the service worth it because the image isn’t. Great service you can’t put a price on, if she has you shaking like a bitch after nutting and she still sucking and you ready to pay the rent. I had that once or twice before.

The second one looks like she might be better but even still I’m complaining. I’ll be there next year on the prowl though. Love the little town for a few days to a week to relax and be in a candy store. Hopefully the prices stay within a decent range because the ceiling for okay/passable girls is getting outrageous.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 07, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
Is this one still in town? I couldn’t get her attention until my last couple of days in town. Unfortunately by then I was wifed up. While not a stellar beauty she was really sexy with a very nice ass.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 05:20:02 AM
I couldnt get a facial pic,  but thats her body profile
That ass might not be legit. Them compression shorts purposely shape girls to look better than reality. It’s like a bra but for the ass. 150 for fake hair and body deception? I hope the service worth it because the image isn’t. Great service you can’t put a price on, if she has you shaking like a bitch after nutting and she still sucking and you ready to pay the rent. I had that once or twice before.

The second one looks like she might be better but even still I’m complaining. I’ll be there next year on the prowl though. Love the little town for a few days to a week to relax and be in a candy store. Hopefully the prices stay within a decent range because the ceiling for okay/passable girls is getting outrageous.
And here's the thing.  Everything about a lot of these chicks today is a facade.  The hair, eye lashes, makeup, tattoos to give the impression that they are sexy or freaky, camouflage clothing to hide and alter their true appearance, wearing shades as big as a motorcycle windshield, feminine accessories ( jewelry,handbags, headband scarfs, hats ) etc.     

Putting the entire facade package altogether,  enough guys are walking around calling chicks quality without even a test drive. 

Now the $150 chick in the pic, is in very casual attire.   But you put a nice dress on the chick, some heels, a hand bag, and she could easily transform her appearance into somebodies 8 to 10.   She's already getting a lot of guys attention dressed casually on every stroll.    Put her in a club and she would turn heads.  And the bottle popping dudes would take notice.   

And since $150 aint no thing to them,  enough dudes who are suckered in by chicks like that, would be more than willing to pay her $150 without even seeing if she is worth it where it really counts.    Lets be honest.  Enough cats think it's worth $100 or more just to be seen with a chick that is turning heads in a venue.     If she turns out to be lousy in the sack.   No big deal. 

At least they got to be seen leaving with the girl.  That by itself is worth it to some guys.  They are on vacation ( almost treating it like some sort of major life changing event ).   Peacocking for some may be part of the thrill certain guys enjoy and look forward to.   As manifested by enough cats looking like they are celebrities from a video.    The Cigar smoking,  beard wearing,  earrings,  in some cases jewelry.   In other words, enough guys have their own way of making an impression with the chicas.    Big baller , shot callers, smoking massive cigars, drinking their favorite spirits.   Attention Whoring.   

Subtle mongering has turned into a spectacle for some cats, where it's important for them to be noticed.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 08, 2020, 05:26:50 AM
Gotta be honest, I didn't find either of those blond chicks even slightly attractive. Someone wants to pay $150 for blond hair dye, that is on them.

Now the girl jazzy put up......she would proably get me to break my own rules and cough up 4000 for st. Then I would work her into a $150 a day deal. But that's just me..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 05:53:09 AM
Is this one still in town? I couldn’t get her attention until my last couple of days in town. Unfortunately by then I was wifed up. While not a stellar beauty she was really sexy with a very nice ass.
The chica in your 2 pics may indeed be very attractive.  You got a chance to see her in person.   But like my pics,  it's hard to make her out if you cant really see her up close.   In your pics,  the chick is sitting down so nobody can really see her body profile.   Especially the nice ass you mentioned she had.     

Her face is hiding behind big ass sunglasses.   It's just like wearing a mask.   A mask can hide part of ones facial profile.   And bring out ones eyes.   Ive seen some women with masks on with beautiful eyes until they took their masks off, and was able to see their whole face.    And Ive also seen chicks faces look unfavorably different once they removed a pair of sunglasses that their faces was hiding behind.   Nice lips, nice hair,  but maybe not as attractive as I was assuming was underneath the sunglasses.   

Makes me wonder,  besides getting to see her ass profile in clothes,  did you ever see her face without her wearing the big sunglasses?   Hopefully somebody might be able to make her out just by the sunglasses she has on?     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 06:17:12 AM
Gotta be honest, I didn't find either of those blond chicks even slightly attractive. Someone wants to pay $150 for blond hair dye, that is on them.

Now the girl jazzy put up......she would proably get me to break my own rules and cough up 4000 for st. Then I would work her into a $150 a day deal. But that's just me..
Here's my questions to you.  What would you do if that chick gave you a problem, by changing the price to something you both did not agree on?   After you finished with her, you gave her what she agreed to, but she wants more and wont leave.  And no matter what your security says or does,  she still refuses to leave.   And since you are hesitating, and not taking her seriously, now she wants the police called.     

Pay attention now.   Would you just pay the bitch the extra money to get rid of her?   Or would you do like you said you would do last year?   Which is,  you aint gonna let no chica extort you.  And if the cops do come, you would rather pay the cops the extra she wanted instead of giving the money to the girl?   

And if you do decide to pay her the extra she wanted,  why would you do that, if you are so dead set against a chica extorting you?   Maybe, just maybe,  you wont know WTF is your best course of action , until you are in that situation.   For all you know, your security guard or some other individual nearby may suggest to you, to go on and pay her what she wanted to get rid of her.   Basically allowing her to get away with extorting you.   Which you said you would never allow a chica to get away with.   Maybe I know your answer already?   You would pay the cops the money,  so the chica doesnt get it.    If it got to that stage, does it really matter whose pocket the extra cash goes  in?   The extortion would still be a success, as far as getting you to pay more than the agreement.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 08, 2020, 06:48:02 AM
Gotta be honest, I didn't find either of those blond chicks even slightly attractive. Someone wants to pay $150 for blond hair dye, that is on them.

Now the girl jazzy put up......she would proably get me to break my own rules and cough up 4000 for st. Then I would work her into a $150 a day deal. But that's just me..
Here's my questions to you.  What would you do if that chick gave you a problem, by changing the price to something you both did not agree on?   After you finished with her, you gave her what she agreed to, but she wants more and wont leave.  And no matter what your security says or does,  she still refuses to leave.   And since you are hesitating, and not taking her seriously, now she wants the police called.     

Pay attention now.   Would you just pay the bitch the extra money to get rid of her?   Or would you do like you said you would do last year?   Which is,  you aint gonna let no chica extort you.  And if the cops do come, you would rather pay the cops the extra she wanted instead of giving the money to the girl?   

And if you do decide to pay her the extra she wanted,  why would you do that, if you are so dead set against a chica extorting you?   Maybe, just maybe,  you wont know WTF is your best course of action , until you are in that situation.   For all you know, your security guard or some other individual nearby may suggest to you, to go on and pay her what she wanted to get rid of her.   Basically allowing her to get away with extorting you.   Which you said you would never allow a chica to get away with.   Maybe I know your answer already?   You would pay the cops the money,  so the chica doesnt get it.    If it got to that stage, does it really matter whose pocket the extra cash goes  in?   The extortion would still be a success, as far as getting you to pay more than the agreement.

If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp, and promise her that I would repeat that night because the sex was good and i really liked her. (of course she would get ghosted) If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved(who i tipped 1000 pesos on arrival and who I have hooked up with beer and food) If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.

Now in my experience, most of these girls don't want the cops involved in anything they are doing, because shit can go bad for them too. But if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Now lets be honest, most of the time guys get themselves in these situations, its during a tln with a girl they don't know that well. Now I never have that problem, because I only do tln with trusted repeats who aren't on the bullshit, and know they are going to make that money with me without all the dumb shit.

Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Now the next thing is I move different than most dudes and most of my new pussy gets recommended to me by repeats or I first bang them at black beards (where there is a set rate with mamasans on site, don't have these problems there). Now if they f--k me over they got problems with my repeats and not just me, because they know if the new girls get dumb with me Its gonna f--k up there money too(we have had that convo)

So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns, but proper planning and vetting weeds out 90% of problem chicas. My system of meeting only girls with regular jobs, or pros who come recommended from repeats, has never come close to failing me, so my stance on the cops is just me thinking about it ahead of time, because in over 3 years going to the dr, no chica has ever hit me with the film flam.

Boys, don't do tln with girls you don't know well, and chances are this dumbshit won't happen to you.
Murano, i tried to cover all my bases because i'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this again for a third time. Just not doing it. Especially on a different thread. Adios.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WorstBehavior on October 08, 2020, 07:27:58 AM
Gotta be honest, I didn't find either of those blond chicks even slightly attractive. Someone wants to pay $150 for blond hair dye, that is on them.

Now the girl jazzy put up......she would proably get me to break my own rules and cough up 4000 for st. Then I would work her into a $150 a day deal. But that's just me..
Here's my questions to you.  What would you do if that chick gave you a problem, by changing the price to something you both did not agree on?   After you finished with her, you gave her what she agreed to, but she wants more and wont leave.  And no matter what your security says or does,  she still refuses to leave.   And since you are hesitating, and not taking her seriously, now she wants the police called.     

Pay attention now.   Would you just pay the bitch the extra money to get rid of her?   Or would you do like you said you would do last year?   Which is,  you aint gonna let no chica extort you.  And if the cops do come, you would rather pay the cops the extra she wanted instead of giving the money to the girl?   

And if you do decide to pay her the extra she wanted,  why would you do that, if you are so dead set against a chica extorting you?   Maybe, just maybe,  you wont know WTF is your best course of action , until you are in that situation.   For all you know, your security guard or some other individual nearby may suggest to you, to go on and pay her what she wanted to get rid of her.   Basically allowing her to get away with extorting you.   Which you said you would never allow a chica to get away with.   Maybe I know your answer already?   You would pay the cops the money,  so the chica doesnt get it.    If it got to that stage, does it really matter whose pocket the extra cash goes  in?   The extortion would still be a success, as far as getting you to pay more than the agreement.

If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp, and promise her that I would repeat that night because the sex was good and i really liked her. (of course she would get ghosted) If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved(who i tipped 1000 pesos on arrival and who I have hooked up with beer and food) If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.

Now in my experience, most of these girls don't want the cops involved in anything they are doing, because shit can go bad for them too. But if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Now lets be honest, most of the time guys get themselves in these situations, its during a tln with a girl they don't know that well. Now I never have that problem, because I only do tln with trusted repeats who aren't on the bullshit, and know they are going to make that money with me without all the dumb shit.

Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Now the next thing is I move different than most dudes and most of my new pussy gets recommended to me by repeats or I first bang them at black beards (where there is a set rate with mamasans on site, don't have these problems there). Now if they f--k me over they got problems with my repeats and not just me, because they know if the new girls get dumb with me Its gonna f--k up there money too(we have had that convo)

So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns, but proper planning and vetting weeds out 90% of problem chicas. My system of meeting only girls with regular jobs, or pros who come recommended from repeats, has never come close to failing me, so my stance on the cops is just me thinking about it ahead of time, because in over 3 years going to the dr, no chica has ever hit me with the film flam.

Boys, don't do tln with girls you don't know well, and chances are this dumbshit won't happen to you.
Murano, i tried to cover all my bases because i'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this again for a third time. Just not doing it. Especially on a different thread. Adios.


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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on October 08, 2020, 07:32:20 AM
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Murano is a long winded MF but his posts are good reads
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 08:01:29 AM

If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp, and promise her that I would repeat that night because the sex was good and i really liked her. (of course she would get ghosted) If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved(who i tipped 1000 pesos on arrival and who I have hooked up with beer and food) If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.

Now in my experience, most of these girls don't want the cops involved in anything they are doing, because shit can go bad for them too. But if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Now lets be honest, most of the time guys get themselves in these situations, its during a tln with a girl they don't know that well. Now I never have that problem, because I only do tln with trusted repeats who aren't on the bullshit, and know they are going to make that money with me without all the dumb shit.

Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Now the next thing is I move different than most dudes and most of my new pussy gets recommended to me by repeats or I first bang them at black beards (where there is a set rate with mamasans on site, don't have these problems there). Now if they f--k me over they got problems with my repeats and not just me, because they know if the new girls get dumb with me Its gonna f--k up there money too(we have had that convo)

So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns, but proper planning and vetting weeds out 90% of problem chicas. My system of meeting only girls with regular jobs, or pros who come recommended from repeats, has never come close to failing me, so my stance on the cops is just me thinking about it ahead of time, because in over 3 years going to the dr, no chica has ever hit me with the film flam.

Boys, don't do tln with girls you don't know well, and chances are this dumbshit won't happen to you.
Murano, i tried to cover all my bases because i'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this again for a third time. Just not doing it. Especially on a different thread. Adios.
So after eliminating all of the fluff and ego based bullshit,  I get to the meat of what I asked for.  It is not very much, and it basically says you dont have a clue. 

1.  If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp.   

Here's a chick trying to extort you, and you think that showing her an agreement on your phone is supposed to make her , say  "Oh shit, you are right.  You got me on that one"  " Ok Papi, he he he, I go now"   If a chick is serious about extorting a mugg and refusing to leave, she aint gonna give a f--k about what you got on your phone. 

The security guard or the police are unlikely to care about squaring up some tourists money disputes with a hooker.  To them you are considered rich, and can take an L.    Moreover, if she changes the narrative that you hit or pushed her, you would be hard pressed to keep focusing on your Whatsapp agreement in light of a totally different allegation being lodged against you.   


2. If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved.

Security is only going to be able to do but so much.  In enough cases, many security guards actually sympathize with the chicas even though the foreigner is offering tips and gifts.  You dont think the security guards know that you are in a f--ked up position when in a dispute with a chica?  They know all too well.  Oft times they take your money and gifts, but may not be able to do anything for you,  except maybe help with translation.  Or make you feel like someone is in your corner.

You saw what happened in that viral video with Monica in it.  Chick busted up property in the place.  And here you got a security guard on scene wielding a shot gun and couldnt or didnt do jack except become another spectator.    The SG didnt put her out.  He allowed her to stay and make a more of a scene.   So once again, you still havent come up with a solution.  All we got so far is that you'll use Whatsapp to show the chica the agreement, and call security.   Lets continue. 



3. If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.   if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Ok so were getting to a solution.  She's not leaving, even with security present.  Now your solution is to let her call the cops.  Which should be the last thing you would want.  Make sure you remember this response,  for when we get back to this a year from now.   

4. Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Ok so really,  you will allow a chica to extort you,  it just depends on the amount of the extortion.  But if it's much more, than what you are willing to lose, you dont mind the chick sitting at your spot with security standing by until the cops come to resolve the issue.  I guess you plan to show them your Whatsapp agreement too?   Is that what were supposed to understand?   And worse, she calls COPS THAT SHE KNOWS.   Basically dude, you dont really have a plan,  you are just being ego driven and winging it.   "Imma show her, I aint no punk.  You wanna call the cops, go right ahead, I aint scared"  "I got my Whatsapp to back me up.


5.  So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns,


And little do you know and realize,  any chick can change the narrative once the cops get there.  And you can best believe, none of what she tells the cops will be on your phone, in your whatsapp,  or her phone.   If she says you got angry, hit or pushed her and she felt threatened, and security is there to protect her and not you, your ass may be going to jail.   See?  You paid security 500 pesos to be a witness.  When she can and will easily assume that security is there to protect her from you.   

Your truth about what happened wont even matter anymore.  Nor will you be able to rely on the security guard.  Because he cant vouch for what she claims but didnt see.   And none of the food and money you gave him up front will change that. 


At the end of the day.  You do not have any real solutions for getting extorted for what you are not willing to lose.  And thats kinda what I said all along.   A dude has to evaluate the situation and then choose the best course of action.  All you are going to do is find out what your fate would be just like anybody else who allows the situation to get that far to have the cops come.   

And thats what I find disturbing about the course of action you are willing to settle for.   That you would encourage a chica to go ahead and call the cops.  With the possibility that she contacts her own cop friends, ready to make you wish you never met the chick. 

Whats missing in your response, is the part about you supposedly paying the cops ( possibly her cops ) so the chick doesnt get the money.   What happened to that part?   Or did you FORGET that?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 08:14:23 AM
Gotta be honest, I didn't find either of those blond chicks even slightly attractive. Someone wants to pay $150 for blond hair dye, that is on them.

Now the girl jazzy put up......she would proably get me to break my own rules and cough up 4000 for st. Then I would work her into a $150 a day deal. But that's just me..
Here's my questions to you.  What would you do if that chick gave you a problem, by changing the price to something you both did not agree on?   After you finished with her, you gave her what she agreed to, but she wants more and wont leave.  And no matter what your security says or does,  she still refuses to leave.   And since you are hesitating, and not taking her seriously, now she wants the police called.     

Pay attention now.   Would you just pay the bitch the extra money to get rid of her?   Or would you do like you said you would do last year?   Which is,  you aint gonna let no chica extort you.  And if the cops do come, you would rather pay the cops the extra she wanted instead of giving the money to the girl?   

And if you do decide to pay her the extra she wanted,  why would you do that, if you are so dead set against a chica extorting you?   Maybe, just maybe,  you wont know WTF is your best course of action , until you are in that situation.   For all you know, your security guard or some other individual nearby may suggest to you, to go on and pay her what she wanted to get rid of her.   Basically allowing her to get away with extorting you.   Which you said you would never allow a chica to get away with.   Maybe I know your answer already?   You would pay the cops the money,  so the chica doesnt get it.    If it got to that stage, does it really matter whose pocket the extra cash goes  in?   The extortion would still be a success, as far as getting you to pay more than the agreement.

If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp, and promise her that I would repeat that night because the sex was good and i really liked her. (of course she would get ghosted) If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved(who i tipped 1000 pesos on arrival and who I have hooked up with beer and food) If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.

Now in my experience, most of these girls don't want the cops involved in anything they are doing, because shit can go bad for them too. But if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Now lets be honest, most of the time guys get themselves in these situations, its during a tln with a girl they don't know that well. Now I never have that problem, because I only do tln with trusted repeats who aren't on the bullshit, and know they are going to make that money with me without all the dumb shit.

Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Now the next thing is I move different than most dudes and most of my new pussy gets recommended to me by repeats or I first bang them at black beards (where there is a set rate with mamasans on site, don't have these problems there). Now if they f--k me over they got problems with my repeats and not just me, because they know if the new girls get dumb with me Its gonna f--k up there money too(we have had that convo)

So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns, but proper planning and vetting weeds out 90% of problem chicas. My system of meeting only girls with regular jobs, or pros who come recommended from repeats, has never come close to failing me, so my stance on the cops is just me thinking about it ahead of time, because in over 3 years going to the dr, no chica has ever hit me with the film flam.

Boys, don't do tln with girls you don't know well, and chances are this dumbshit won't happen to you.
Murano, i tried to cover all my bases because i'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this again for a third time. Just not doing it. Especially on a different thread. Adios.


creating space for murano...
You stooopid.  LMAO
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on October 08, 2020, 08:16:43 AM
Murano she can be someone’s dime but not mine. I don’t rate a girl off a checklist criteria to determine if she a dime for me. It’s strictly off of appearance. Some guys say natural hair, in vip, speak English, has transportation, no tattoos... will contribute to her being a dime. That’s not me or my outlook, appearance dressed down naturally will determine if you a dime or not. A corset and dress helps some but it’s fake, I rather a flat stomach or abs if we talking dimes. A girl who dresses up to be a dime isn’t a dime, she just did a good job dressing up. It’s some women who are pretty under damn well any circumstances even in work uniform that’s casually fitted not tight, with just braids or a ponytail, limit makeup say nurses, cops, military women, trainers, heck I seen fine female roofers.

As you hit on it, attention seekers have an image of what they want, and the market moves to cater to it if they spend the most. The majority can call it a dime, doesn’t mean it’s true. Especially if it’s obvious they ignorant to the entire range of options and purposely limit themselves due to a selection bias. If you looking for mainly Beyoncé or Cardi B, I can’t trust you when the Kelly Rowland vs Ariana Grande conversation comes up. Everyone has likes and dislikes, but on a spectrum if you frequent prostitutes you generally lean to being open minded. If you mainly just frequent Sousa you’re likely to have a type and stick to it. Those are polar opposite views.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 08, 2020, 08:19:11 AM

If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp, and promise her that I would repeat that night because the sex was good and i really liked her. (of course she would get ghosted) If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved(who i tipped 1000 pesos on arrival and who I have hooked up with beer and food) If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.

Now in my experience, most of these girls don't want the cops involved in anything they are doing, because shit can go bad for them too. But if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Now lets be honest, most of the time guys get themselves in these situations, its during a tln with a girl they don't know that well. Now I never have that problem, because I only do tln with trusted repeats who aren't on the bullshit, and know they are going to make that money with me without all the dumb shit.

Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Now the next thing is I move different than most dudes and most of my new pussy gets recommended to me by repeats or I first bang them at black beards (where there is a set rate with mamasans on site, don't have these problems there). Now if they f--k me over they got problems with my repeats and not just me, because they know if the new girls get dumb with me Its gonna f--k up there money too(we have had that convo)

So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns, but proper planning and vetting weeds out 90% of problem chicas. My system of meeting only girls with regular jobs, or pros who come recommended from repeats, has never come close to failing me, so my stance on the cops is just me thinking about it ahead of time, because in over 3 years going to the dr, no chica has ever hit me with the film flam.

Boys, don't do tln with girls you don't know well, and chances are this dumbshit won't happen to you.
Murano, i tried to cover all my bases because i'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this again for a third time. Just not doing it. Especially on a different thread. Adios.
So after eliminating all of the fluff and ego based bullshit,  I get to the meat of what I asked for.  It is not very much, and it basically says you dont have a clue. 

1.  If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp.   

Here's a chick trying to extort you, and you think that showing her an agreement on your phone is supposed to make her , say  "Oh shit, you are right.  You got me on that one"  " Ok Papi, he he he, I go now"   If a chick is serious about extorting a mugg and refusing to leave, she aint gonna give a f--k about what you got on your phone. 

The security guard or the police are unlikely to care about squaring up some tourists money disputes with a hooker.  To them you are considered rich, and can take an L.    Moreover, if she changes the narrative that you hit or pushed her, you would be hard pressed to keep focusing on your Whatsapp agreement in light of a totally different allegation being lodged against you.   


2. If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved.

Security is only going to be able to do but so much.  In enough cases, many security guards actually sympathize with the chicas even though the foreigner is offering tips and gifts.  You dont think the security guards know that you are in a f--ked up position when in a dispute with a chica?  They know all too well.  Oft times they take your money and gifts, but may not be able to do anything for you,  except maybe help with translation.  Or make you feel like someone is in your corner.

You saw what happened in that viral video with Monica in it.  Chick busted up property in the place.  And here you got a security guard on scene wielding a shot gun and couldnt or didnt do jack except become another spectator.    The SG didnt put her out.  He allowed her to stay and make a more of a scene.   So once again, you still havent come up with a solution.  All we got so far is that you'll use Whatsapp to show the chica the agreement, and call security.   Lets continue. 



3. If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.   if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Ok so were getting to a solution.  She's not leaving, even with security present.  Now your solution is to let her call the cops.  Which should be the last thing you would want.  Make sure you remember this response,  for when we get back to this a year from now.   

4. Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Ok so really,  you will allow a chica to extort you,  it just depends on the amount of the extortion.  But if it's much more, than what you are willing to lose, you dont mind the chick sitting at your spot with security standing by until the cops come to resolve the issue.  I guess you plan to show them your Whatsapp agreement too?   Is that what were supposed to understand?   And worse, she calls COPS THAT SHE KNOWS.   Basically dude, you dont really have a plan,  you are just being ego driven and winging it.   "Imma show her, I aint no punk.  You wanna call the cops, go right ahead, I aint scared"  "I got my Whatsapp to back me up.


6.  So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns,


And little do you know and realize,  any chick can change the narrative once the cops get there.  And you can best believe, none of what she tells the cops will be on your phone, in your whatsapp,  or her phone.   If she says you got angry, hit or pushed her and she felt threatened, and security is there to protect her and not you, your ass may be going to jail.   See?  You paid security 500 pesos to be a witness.  When she can and will easily assume that security is there to protect her from you.   

Your truth about what happened wont even matter anymore.  Nor will you be able to rely on the security guard.  Because he cant vouch for what she claims but didnt see.   And none of the food and money you gave him up front will change that. 


At the end of the day.  You do not have any real solutions for getting extorted for what you are not willing to lose.  And thats kinda what I said all along.   A dude has to evaluate the situation and then choose the best course of action.  All you are going to do is find out what your fate would be just like anybody else who allows the situation to get that far to have the cops come.   

And thats what I find disturbing about the course of action you are willing to settle for.   That you would encourage a chica to go ahead and call the cops.  With the possibility that she contacts her own cop friends, ready to make you wish you never met the chick. 

Whats missing in your response, is the part about you supposedly paying the cops ( possibly her cops ) so the chick doesnt get the money.   What happened to that part?   Or did you FORGET that?   


Man ain't nobody finna read all that shit! I know you wrote this long ass shit on purpose cuz the dudes were riding you....smh lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 08:21:06 AM
@Mr Navigator.  My post is addressed to someone specific. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 08:33:48 AM
Murano she can be someone’s dime but not mine. I don’t rate a girl off a checklist criteria to determine if she a dime for me. It’s strictly off of appearance. Some guys say natural hair, in vip, speak English, has transportation, no tattoos... will contribute to her being a dime. That’s not me or my outlook, appearance dressed down naturally will determine if you a dime or not. A corset and dress helps some but it’s fake, I rather a flat stomach or abs if we talking dimes. A girl who dresses up to be a dime isn’t a dime, she just did a good job dressing up. It’s some women who are pretty under damn well any circumstances even in work uniform that’s casually fitted not tight, with just braids or a ponytail, limit makeup say nurses, cops, military women, trainers, heck I seen fine female roofers.

As you hit on it, attention seekers have an image of what they want, and the market moves to cater to it if they spend the most. The majority can call it a dime, doesn’t mean it’s true. Especially if it’s obvious they ignorant to the entire range of options and purposely limit themselves due to a selection bias. If you looking for mainly Beyoncé or Cardi B, I can’t trust you when the Kelly Rowland vs Ariana Grande conversation comes up. Everyone has likes and dislikes, but on a spectrum if you frequent prostitutes you generally lean to being open minded. If you mainly just frequent Sousa you’re likely to have a type and stick to it. Those are polar opposite views.
Copy that!   In a nutshell, you have your own tastes in what you find attractive or not.  I get that.   That is universally understood.   

As it pertains to the chicas in the pics, including Jazzy's.   There are men who may find those women very attractive as far as what they intend to do with them,  which is mainly to f--k them.   In other words, it doesnt matter what each man finds attractive, or what their rating may be.   Enough guys have already come to Sosua and hired those chicks because THEY found them to be attractive.  And they probably paid them the high price they wanted because the chicas were worth it to them.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
Be careful brethren.  The authorities these days are dealing with and focusing on domestic violence in this country towards women.   A lot of women are being abused or killed by local men known to them.  And of course incidents where local women are attacked or killed by foreigners is something locals are paying attention to as well.    Women trying to make a living through prostitution, have a lot more rights and sympathy from the public ( including mongers ) than the fate and concerns of some monger foreigner.   

Fat chance of people looking the other way, if a chica starts making allegations that you threatened her,  or refused to pay her all of the money.   And I dont care what evidence you produce on your phone of what the agreement was.   It's her word against yours on what happened between you and her,  and what you paid her.    We had a member in this forum share an incident just like that.   Chick said she did not get paid all of the money.   Tried to pay her in front of an un attentive SG, and the dude still had issues with the chick. 

I know some of us think we can out smart these chicks.  "Well I'll tell the SG what the amount is, and pay her in front of him"   Meanwhile, the chica says,  "uh uh.   That agreement is wrong"  "He asked me to do something else and I did it.  "He made me bleed, and now I have to see a doctor"   "All I want is to be paid.  You pay me, I leave."    An incident with a local will not necessarily play out smoothly like it does on TV.   The hero doesnt always win or get his/her way. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 08, 2020, 09:41:25 AM
Anyone know the chica that died in the auto accident?  My chica told me on Whatsapp
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Anyone know the chica that died in the auto accident?
WOW.   You have a link to where the incident took place? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 08, 2020, 10:02:13 AM
I haven't heard where it took place yet. So far just the info and pics on whatsapp.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on October 08, 2020, 10:03:11 AM
@Mr Navigator.  My post is addressed to someone specific.
Sirs This Topic has been Drawn and Quartered,, beat to death  most vets know the routine  Key word is vett the chica,  in the rare case you get a bum chica  take the hit and pay to get rid of her,,,,,Duke your security,,  Its a loosing battel if the cops get involved   most good hotels will ban cookou and trouble chicas,,,,,All part of the monger game !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 10:07:27 AM
I haven't heard where it took place yet. So far just the info and pics on whatsapp.
I realize a lot of chicas do look alike or have a similar look.  But I swear I believe I have seen that chica before. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 08, 2020, 10:12:46 AM

If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp, and promise her that I would repeat that night because the sex was good and i really liked her. (of course she would get ghosted) If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved(who i tipped 1000 pesos on arrival and who I have hooked up with beer and food) If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.

Now in my experience, most of these girls don't want the cops involved in anything they are doing, because shit can go bad for them too. But if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Now lets be honest, most of the time guys get themselves in these situations, its during a tln with a girl they don't know that well. Now I never have that problem, because I only do tln with trusted repeats who aren't on the bullshit, and know they are going to make that money with me without all the dumb shit.

Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Now the next thing is I move different than most dudes and most of my new pussy gets recommended to me by repeats or I first bang them at black beards (where there is a set rate with mamasans on site, don't have these problems there). Now if they f--k me over they got problems with my repeats and not just me, because they know if the new girls get dumb with me Its gonna f--k up there money too(we have had that convo)

So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns, but proper planning and vetting weeds out 90% of problem chicas. My system of meeting only girls with regular jobs, or pros who come recommended from repeats, has never come close to failing me, so my stance on the cops is just me thinking about it ahead of time, because in over 3 years going to the dr, no chica has ever hit me with the film flam.

Boys, don't do tln with girls you don't know well, and chances are this dumbshit won't happen to you.
Murano, i tried to cover all my bases because i'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this again for a third time. Just not doing it. Especially on a different thread. Adios.
So after eliminating all of the fluff and ego based bullshit,  I get to the meat of what I asked for.  It is not very much, and it basically says you dont have a clue. 

1.  If we agreed on 4000 I would get the agreement in writing on my whatsapp. Verbal isn't good enough for a first timer. If after its done she wanted more, I would show her on the agreement on WhatsApp.   

Here's a chick trying to extort you, and you think that showing her an agreement on your phone is supposed to make her , say  "Oh shit, you are right.  You got me on that one"  " Ok Papi, he he he, I go now"   If a chick is serious about extorting a mugg and refusing to leave, she aint gonna give a f--k about what you got on your phone. 

The security guard or the police are unlikely to care about squaring up some tourists money disputes with a hooker.  To them you are considered rich, and can take an L.    Moreover, if she changes the narrative that you hit or pushed her, you would be hard pressed to keep focusing on your Whatsapp agreement in light of a totally different allegation being lodged against you.   


2. If that's not good enough and she refused to leave I would get security involved.

Security is only going to be able to do but so much.  In enough cases, many security guards actually sympathize with the chicas even though the foreigner is offering tips and gifts.  You dont think the security guards know that you are in a f--ked up position when in a dispute with a chica?  They know all too well.  Oft times they take your money and gifts, but may not be able to do anything for you,  except maybe help with translation.  Or make you feel like someone is in your corner.

You saw what happened in that viral video with Monica in it.  Chick busted up property in the place.  And here you got a security guard on scene wielding a shot gun and couldnt or didnt do jack except become another spectator.    The SG didnt put her out.  He allowed her to stay and make a more of a scene.   So once again, you still havent come up with a solution.  All we got so far is that you'll use Whatsapp to show the chica the agreement, and call security.   Lets continue. 



3. If she still doesn't leave and wants to call the cops, I would tip security 500 pesos to stay in the room with us, tell him to leave the door open, turn on my tv and tell her to give them a call.   if she wants to take the chance I would tell her to give it a whirl, obviously after paying her what we agreed upon originally.

Ok so were getting to a solution.  She's not leaving, even with security present.  Now your solution is to let her call the cops.  Which should be the last thing you would want.  Make sure you remember this response,  for when we get back to this a year from now.   

4. Now for a first time experience that amount also matters, if were talking about 500 or 1000 pesos, depending on my mood I might pay it, and then clown that bitch for at least the next 2 or 3 times i see her. More than that and I take my chance that she is bluffing.  It's principal.

Ok so really,  you will allow a chica to extort you,  it just depends on the amount of the extortion.  But if it's much more, than what you are willing to lose, you dont mind the chick sitting at your spot with security standing by until the cops come to resolve the issue.  I guess you plan to show them your Whatsapp agreement too?   Is that what were supposed to understand?   And worse, she calls COPS THAT SHE KNOWS.   Basically dude, you dont really have a plan,  you are just being ego driven and winging it.   "Imma show her, I aint no punk.  You wanna call the cops, go right ahead, I aint scared"  "I got my Whatsapp to back me up.


6.  So in the end yes i'm sticking to my guns,


And little do you know and realize,  any chick can change the narrative once the cops get there.  And you can best believe, none of what she tells the cops will be on your phone, in your whatsapp,  or her phone.   If she says you got angry, hit or pushed her and she felt threatened, and security is there to protect her and not you, your ass may be going to jail.   See?  You paid security 500 pesos to be a witness.  When she can and will easily assume that security is there to protect her from you.   

Your truth about what happened wont even matter anymore.  Nor will you be able to rely on the security guard.  Because he cant vouch for what she claims but didnt see.   And none of the food and money you gave him up front will change that. 


At the end of the day.  You do not have any real solutions for getting extorted for what you are not willing to lose.  And thats kinda what I said all along.   A dude has to evaluate the situation and then choose the best course of action.  All you are going to do is find out what your fate would be just like anybody else who allows the situation to get that far to have the cops come.   

And thats what I find disturbing about the course of action you are willing to settle for.   That you would encourage a chica to go ahead and call the cops.  With the possibility that she contacts her own cop friends, ready to make you wish you never met the chick. 

Whats missing in your response, is the part about you supposedly paying the cops ( possibly her cops ) so the chick doesnt get the money.   What happened to that part?   Or did you FORGET that?   


Murano here's my question to you. Any course of action that someone may take that doesn't involve immediately paying her has the possibility of getting the cops involved if she doesn't go along with.

So why don't you just come out and say pay the girl no matter what if your so afraid of the police?

Is that your position? And if not, where are you really even disagreeing with me?

Also, i never said i want to pay the cops, or immediately offer a bribe. I'm saying I would rather take the chance of having to pay a bribe to stay out of jail rather then immediately fold to an extortion attempt.

But f--k paying the cops for a second. Tell us all what your position is. Are you saying automatically pay the chica no matter what?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 08, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
Also, just for the record, you suck at counting. Your bullets go 1 2 3 4 6. Must be distracted by one of your girls taking a giant dump in your bathroom and then having to yell at her about showering.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 10:44:40 AM
Also, just for the record, you suck at counting. Your bullets go 1 2 3 4 6. Must be distracted by one of your girls taking a giant dump in your bathroom and then having to yell at her about showering.
Thats not a problem.  A very easy correction.  DONE!    Now since you are on the topic of records.  How about for the record, you produce that evidence ( or record ) you said existed of my alleged contradiction?   Can you do that?  Will you do that?  When will you do that?     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 08, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
Also, just for the record, you suck at counting. Your bullets go 1 2 3 4 6. Must be distracted by one of your girls taking a giant dump in your bathroom and then having to yell at her about showering.
Thats not a problem.  A very easy correction.  DONE!    Now since you are on the topic of records.  How about for the record, you produce that evidence ( or record ) you said existed of my alleged contradiction?   Can you do that?  Will you do that?  When will you do that?     

Stop with the smokescreens and answer the question. Are you saying pay the chica immediately when she demands more money than agreed too?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 08, 2020, 11:14:45 AM
Anyone know the chica that died in the auto accident?  My chica told me on Whatsapp

Hey Papi why don't you post this in it's own thread. A lot of dudes dodging this post like the plague right now. I'm sure a few cats on here know her....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 08, 2020, 11:22:46 AM
Anyone know the chica that died in the auto accident?  My chica told me on Whatsapp

Hey Papi why don't you post this in it's own thread. A lot of dudes dodging this post like the plague right now. I'm sure a few cats on here know her....

you know what my bad. I shouldn't have even engaged with him. sucked all the oxygen out of the room and this isn't the thread for that particular discussion anyway.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 08, 2020, 11:23:54 AM
Yeah, I thought about that. I don't know why I thought it would be more morose to have a thread like that. There's also pics of her on a slab...I don't know why they post insensitive pics like that.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 12:16:36 PM

Murano here's my question to you. Any course of action that someone may take that doesn't involve immediately paying her has the possibility of getting the cops involved if she doesn't go along with.

So why don't you just come out and say pay the girl no matter what if your so afraid of the police?

Is that your position? And if not, where are you really even disagreeing with me?

Also, i never said i want to pay the cops, or immediately offer a bribe. I'm saying I would rather take the chance of having to pay a bribe to stay out of jail rather then immediately fold to an extortion attempt.

But f--k paying the cops for a second. Tell us all what your position is. Are you saying automatically pay the chica no matter what?
Murano here's my question to you. Any course of action that someone may take that doesn't involve immediately paying her has the possibility of getting the cops involved if she doesn't go along with.

No shit Sherlock!  I covered that in my topic Brethren It's Not Your Fault.   And I said that over a year ago as well.  To which you erroneously and falsely said, my position changed. 


So why don't you just come out and say pay the girl no matter what if your so afraid of the police?


You should ask yourself that question.   Why would you allow a chick to call the police on you?  And then get the idea that you would rather pay the police to keep the chica from getting the money?  That makes just as much sense as you trying to distance yourself from your own comments.   The shit is out of the bag Ace!   It's a foolish move, and you put it on record.    


Is that your position? And if not, where are you really even disagreeing with me?


My position is what I have maintained.   Each situation has to be evaluated for it's own merits, and then attempt to do what is best for the situation in front of you.   What part of that, do you not understand?   

Your original position when it comes to getting extorted by a chica, was really about not giving in and her not getting the money.  You had a ready made solution, that if the cops were going to come,  you were going to give the police the money and not the chica.  In essence, placing yourself in the position of possibly being extorted by the police for more than what the chica wanted.   And now, since you admitted you would let the chica call the police instead of you calling,  that makes me question your state of mind and awareness even more.   There is no way, that I would encourage a chica to call the police to the scene that may be part of the scheme. 



Also, i never said i want to pay the cops, or immediately offer a bribe. I'm saying I would rather take the chance of having to pay a bribe to stay out of jail rather then immediately fold to an extortion attempt.


No no no no,  you did not originally say your motivation was paying the cops to stay out of jail.  And nobody here said jack about immediately doing anything.     The point once again, is you gave a knee jerk response that you would rather pay the cops because you didnt want her to extort you directly.  For one, you never even figured on the chick potentially lying and changing the story.  How did you go from avoiding being extorted by a chica to you trying to keep from going to jail?    So when the cops come,  your prepared to pay them to stay out of jail,  and the chicas interest in her money just vanishes in thin air?    You really are a piece of work.  Like a sloppy brick mason patching holes as they go. 


But f--k paying the cops for a second. Tell us all what your position is. Are you saying automatically pay the chica no matter what?

Go back to the topic, and re read what I posted at length and what I said.   You can start with my repost ( In the topic Brethren It's Not Your Fault ) of what I said to Big Pimpin and to you.    But since you are a little afraid of searching for the truth,  here's the link. 

http://takemebacktososua.com/questions-for-newbies-to-sosua/it's-not-your-fault-brethren!/msg232845/#msg232845 (http://takemebacktososua.com/questions-for-newbies-to-sosua/it's-not-your-fault-brethren!/msg232845/#msg232845)

Now imma wrap this up, because you have got to be the weirdest individual I have ever dealt with on a message board forum.   

1. I do not advocate a guy letting a chica call the police on him.   Thats dumb.   
2.  I dont support taking the chance of letting a situation get to the point of the cops coming,  and then thinking you are going to get out of paying the chica just because you paid the cops.   

What do you think,  the chica is just going to walk away empty handed?   Before the cops even get there,  that chick may have a ready made story and plan to tell the cops what you allegedly did.    Opening up the door for them to potentially get a lot more out of you than the few pesos you thought you were holding onto.   

Bottom line,  stop with the macho ego bullshit about how you are going to handle a chica extorting you.  You dont know jack about what you are going to do, until a situation is in front of you. Bet on that! 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 12:18:05 PM
Yeah, I thought about that. I don't know why I thought it would be more morose to have a thread like that. There's also pics of her on a slab...I don't know why they post insensitive pics like that.
I agree that incident and story deserves it's own thread. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 08, 2020, 09:01:27 PM
Thursday October 8, 2020

So this is what all the fuss is about.   Went to Ahnvee for dinner, around 6ish.   There were about 10 average looking chicas there, all with Ahnvee wristbands on.    just sitting around.   By 7:30,  a lot more chicks started coming out of their rooms.   Then I see a lot more chicks coming in every few minutes from outside.    What I saw reminded me of the good ol days of Rumba, and Merengue.   Chicks getting all dolled up, and looking like ladies.  Some in dresses and many in sexy heels.   

I really do believe that 500 peso entry fee ( which can be applied towards drinks or meals ) ,  helps somewhat in deterring certain chicas ( ones not staying there ) from coming to Ahnvee.  But at the same time,  Im guessing enough chicas assume,  their services is supposed to come at a premium.   One might get that impression considering that the meals and drinks are priced for tourists.   

On face value, I'd say a lot of attractive chicas were available there.  As well as the few I saw outside being dropped off.    Me and my buddy saw one guy make a connection with a sexy chocolate chick in a tight white dress and heels.   They both left together presumably to TCB.   Less than an hour later, she was back on the scene without him ready to find her next trick.    Sometimes, you can tell when a chica has just got finished with a client.    Hair may be a little out of place, clothes a little ruffled, and a certain look that's hard to explain.   In this chicas case,  she looked more like she never got to take off her clothes.  Makeup or anything.   Her being back so soon,  is possibly indicative that nothing or "very little" happened.   

Also I saw a chica there that had certain features that reminded me of the pic someone put on here recently.   If she had her big sunglasses on I might have been able to make her out and confirm.   All I had to work with from the pic was her dome, hair style, and big hoop earrings.       

Ok the talent as far as how chicas look is apparently there at Ahnvee.  But what about the quality of their performance in relation to cost?   Like I said before.  If these chicks have to do this day in and day out,  and nobody takes them serious enough to wife them up,  or take them off the scene,  chances are the experience with them is not really worth it.   

I think they are mostly there as eye candy just looking to get dudes to part with their money.  Money parasites.    And dudes come from all over thinking that what they see in Ahnvee is still 10 times better and more affordable than from where they come from.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on October 09, 2020, 06:01:59 AM
@ Murano based off your survey of Ahnvee last night where would u say are the best hunting grounds right now?  I agree..service and the right energy trumps a facade everytime.

$500 peso a night gotta be a hard pill to swallow for alot of chicas especially if they're not getting work
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 09, 2020, 09:30:33 AM
@ Murano based off your survey of Ahnvee last night where would u say are the best hunting grounds right now?  I agree..service and the right energy trumps a facade everytime.

$500 peso a night gotta be a hard pill to swallow for alot of chicas especially if they're not getting work
I would say there are 4 basic places in which to hunt within Sosua.  The Beach ( including chicks going to or leaving ), Kings, Bailee's Restaurant, and Ahnvee.   Everything else is by chance, and timing.   

Meaning, you can bump into chicas at the Supermercados/colmados , chicks on motos, in cars, chicas on Patrol just walking around, passing through Flip Flop, chicks going in or coming out of a salon, chicas hanging out front near Banco Progresso ( the stores next to it ), chicas hanging in the vicinity of Europa, chicas just arriving into town by a gua gua or the carrito taxi station, near the Metro bus station.   

A lot is going to depend on the mongers habits.  Some cats dont mind hitting up chicas on the fly, under any situation.  Some guys only like to meet chicks sitting still at a venue.   Personally,  I still like chicks that appear as if they have some class about themselves.  Not much into chicks walking around on patrol looking for clients.    No desperate chicks and no mean mugging chicks.   

But then what I see does not matter that much these days,  because I tend to stick with my regulars.  The whole process of starting fresh with chicks I dont know,  the vetting process, getting the price details straight and the rest of it ( more risks these days because there is more riff raff, thefts,scamming potential ), can be a daunting endeavor, and some what of a turn off.    I dont like negotiating and/or discussing price ( although it is necessary ).   

So for the most part,  I end up just sticking to chica watching.   With good regulars,  there is no thirst or feelings Im missing out on all of the chicas I see everyday in Sosua.   Every now and then , I'll take something new.    I met two new ones in the last 3 months.   The 2nd one may turn out to be a regular.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 09, 2020, 10:21:48 AM
This is one reason I like vetting online before I arrive. I can establish her willingness to f--k for money, her willingness to agree to satisfy my kinks, and the agreement to a set price. By the time I arrive, I've got pics and video of her in action. All she has to do at that point is show up, behave and f--k. Those that didn't make it through that vetting process, don't get utilized when I see them, because they failed my process for one reason or another. I'd rather take on a newbie in front of me, instead of someone that had an opportunity with me and blew it. On the island, my four favorite spots to hunt[precovid] are the malecon, Rilix, La Serena and Oceanworld. A simple hello and help me find a nice place for a cervesa, por favor. Smiling is half the battle.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WorstBehavior on October 09, 2020, 10:52:08 AM
This is one reason I like vetting online before I arrive. I can establish her willingness to f--k for money, her willingness to agree to satisfy my kinks, and the agreement to a set price. By the time I arrive, I've got pics and video of her in action. All she has to do at that point is show up, behave and f--k. Those that didn't make it through that vetting process, don't get utilized when I see them, because they failed my process for one reason or another. I'd rather take on a newbie in front of me, instead of someone that had an opportunity with me and blew it. On the island, my four favorite spots to hunt[precovid] are the malecon, Rilix, La Serena and Oceanworld. A simple hello and help me find a nice place for a cervesa, por favor. Smiling is half the battle.
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on October 11, 2020, 11:13:52 AM
@ Murano based off your survey of Ahnvee last night where would u say are the best hunting grounds right now?  I agree..service and the right energy trumps a facade everytime.

$500 peso a night gotta be a hard pill to swallow for alot of chicas especially if they're not getting work
I would say there are 4 basic places in which to hunt within Sosua.  The Beach ( including chicks going to or leaving ), Kings, Bailee's Restaurant, and Ahnvee.   Everything else is by chance, and timing.   

Meaning, you can bump into chicas at the Supermercados/colmados , chicks on motos, in cars, chicas on Patrol just walking around, passing through Flip Flop, chicks going in or coming out of a salon, chicas hanging out front near Banco Progresso ( the stores next to it ), chicas hanging in the vicinity of Europa, chicas just arriving into town by a gua gua or the carrito taxi station, near the Metro bus station.   

A lot is going to depend on the mongers habits.  Some cats dont mind hitting up chicas on the fly, under any situation.  Some guys only like to meet chicks sitting still at a venue.   Personally,  I still like chicks that appear as if they have some class about themselves.  Not much into chicks walking around on patrol looking for clients.    No desperate chicks and no mean mugging chicks.   

But then what I see does not matter that much these days,  because I tend to stick with my regulars.  The whole process of starting fresh with chicks I dont know,  the vetting process, getting the price details straight and the rest of it ( more risks these days because there is more riff raff, thefts,scamming potential ), can be a daunting endeavor, and some what of a turn off.    I dont like negotiating and/or discussing price ( although it is necessary ).   

So for the most part,  I end up just sticking to chica watching.   With good regulars,  there is no thirst or feelings Im missing out on all of the chicas I see everyday in Sosua.   Every now and then , I'll take something new.    I met two new ones in the last 3 months.   The 2nd one may turn out to be a regular.
Bingo sir, on the regulars, last trip hooked up with 3 regs did not bother with new chicas,,,   same thing  just have to observe then strike and vet the chicas  the more trips you make you can pick some thing you like , or take a chance on,, also hitting up civis and semi pros  are good and the chica net work,,  referalls to sisters cousins mothers daughters & granny too !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 11, 2020, 06:12:18 PM
It's Sunday Oct 11, 2020

Was out about 830am driving around.   Had to go to Caribe Tours in Los Charamicos and to the Metro station to check out the current fares and scheduling.   What I saw was a ton of Polica Nacional Officers along with Amet Officers on several corners on both sides of the highway ( Route 5 ).   And every corner entering into Sosua ( El Batey ).    A flat bed truck standing by ready to confiscate cars and motor bikes.

What were they out in force for?  Mask compliance, helmet compliance, and seat belt compliance.  They also look for your marbete tax sticker affixed to your windshield.   They have been checking motos for plates, and credentials if they stopped somebody.    It looked like LE had a major meeting and decided to go on a campaign to make people adhere to the mask wearing guidelines.   Which goes along with the other places where officials are finally becoming more proactive in enforcing that people comply ( ie hotels, restaurants etc ).   

I will not be surprised,  to see Sosua Beach being targeted for mask and social distancing compliance next.    So be careful if you are in country.   Bring several masks so you have some backup.   Very easy to leave ones spot and forget to have their mask to put on.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: teeo9111 on October 12, 2020, 10:16:41 AM
It's Sunday Oct 11, 2020

Was out about 830am driving around.   Had to go to Caribe Tours in Los Charamicos and to the Metro station to check out the current fares and scheduling.   What I saw was a ton of Polica Nacional Officers along with Amet Officers on several corners on both sides of the highway ( Route 5 ).   And every corner entering into Sosua ( El Batey ).    A flat bed truck standing by ready to confiscate cars and motor bikes.

What were they out in force for?  Mask compliance, helmet compliance, and seat belt compliance.  They also look for your marbete tax sticker affixed to your windshield.   They have been checking motos for plates, and credentials if they stopped somebody.    It looked like LE had a major meeting and decided to go on a campaign to make people adhere to the mask wearing guidelines.   Which goes along with the other places where officials are finally becoming more proactive in enforcing that people comply ( ie hotels, restaurants etc ).   

I will not be surprised,  to see Sosua Beach being targeted for mask and social distancing compliance next.    So be careful if you are in country.   Bring several masks so you have some backup.   Very easy to leave ones spot and forget to have their mask to put on.
The reason for the heavy police presence was that President Abinader was in Sosua yesterday.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on October 12, 2020, 03:08:54 PM
^ Yeah it was a lot going on and idk if he was in Su specifically but POP I know. Kanye n his family came back that same day too.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: danceelite0 on October 12, 2020, 04:12:36 PM
I was there 8 thru 11 and I agree with murano somewhat.  The chicas with looks and class are staying at Ahnvee.  Even the chics at Bailees in the mornings for breakfast and some for dinner are from Ahnvee.  The less than secret place that you may find something doable is Europa.  Europa has a curfew party at the bar pool conservative but interesting and I walked away with one that I kept all night, an exception for me.  A new song that was played over and over at the bar “pide me leche” leaves a lasting memory. 
JW Marriott in Santo Domingo is another jewel that’s worth mentioning.  Absolutely the most classiest  hotel I’ve stayed at in the DR.  Get this it’s chica friendly, it’s pricey but worth every dime.  It’s physically attached to Blue Mall with underground parking and rooftop pool.  The chics are high class and not numerous I had a beautiful Venezuelan that treated me like a king. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 12, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
^ Yeah it was a lot going on and idk if he was in Su specifically but POP I know. Kanye n his family came back that same day too.

He was in Sosua yesterday.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: OD45 on October 12, 2020, 05:01:07 PM
^ Interesting. I wonder if he was there planting as well. ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 15, 2020, 07:30:26 AM
It's Sunday Oct 11, 2020

Was out about 830am driving around.   Had to go to Caribe Tours in Los Charamicos and to the Metro station to check out the current fares and scheduling.   What I saw was a ton of Polica Nacional Officers along with Amet Officers on several corners on both sides of the highway ( Route 5 ).   And every corner entering into Sosua ( El Batey ).    A flat bed truck standing by ready to confiscate cars and motor bikes.

What were they out in force for?  Mask compliance, helmet compliance, and seat belt compliance.  They also look for your marbete tax sticker affixed to your windshield.   They have been checking motos for plates, and credentials if they stopped somebody.    It looked like LE had a major meeting and decided to go on a campaign to make people adhere to the mask wearing guidelines.   Which goes along with the other places where officials are finally becoming more proactive in enforcing that people comply ( ie hotels, restaurants etc ).   

I will not be surprised,  to see Sosua Beach being targeted for mask and social distancing compliance next.    So be careful if you are in country.   Bring several masks so you have some backup.   Very easy to leave ones spot and forget to have their mask to put on.
The reason for the heavy police presence was that President Abinader was in Sosua yesterday.
Thanks for the heads up.   I found out later, but wasnt able to come back here to post.    As of yesterday, things look normal. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 15, 2020, 07:43:46 AM
^ Yeah it was a lot going on and idk if he was in Su specifically but POP I know. Kanye n his family came back that same day too.

Kanye and family were in Sosua? You mean Kim K and her sisters?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WorstBehavior on October 15, 2020, 07:45:19 AM
^ Yeah it was a lot going on and idk if he was in Su specifically but POP I know. Kanye n his family came back that same day too.

Kanye and family were in Sosua? You mean Kim K and her sisters?

kimye ?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 15, 2020, 08:12:00 AM
^ Yeah it was a lot going on and idk if he was in Su specifically but POP I know. Kanye n his family came back that same day too.

Kanye and family were in Sosua? You mean Kim K and her sisters?

kimye ?

Ok I see it now. They were there on behalf of the Government to "promote" tourism and her product line. I see ratchet hoe Cardi B and her clan is next to come thru...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 15, 2020, 08:37:02 AM
Monday October 11, 2020

Took a 8:20am Metro bus from Sosua to Santo Domingo.   Cost 390 pesos.  No toilet on this bus.   Was going there just to meet up with a buddy.   At the bus station, a gentleman close to my age showed up to take the bus.   We ended up sitting across from each other in the same row.   Masks were supposed to be mandatory.  But I didnt see anybody making any fuss over enforcing it once on the bus.   Smooth ride.   Bus made it's usual stops.  Puerto Plata and Santiago.

Any women that boarded appeared to be regular women.  Once the bus was getting close to Santo Domingo, the fellow across from me communicated about something.  We discovered that we both were going somewhat in the same direction ( Zona Colonial ).   With that, we agreed to share an Uber.   If I recall, the Uber was about 275 pesos.   We split the fare.   Uber is great.

Prior to us getting the Uber,  I had went across to the next bldg to use the restroom.  Came out and joined my travel companion to wait for the Uber.  5 minutes later, a Dominican fella stopped by on his moto with packages ( he seemed to be a courier at the bus station ) to show me that he found a phone in the station.  Apparently I had dropped or left my phone on the seat while me and my new travel partner were working on the Uber ride on his phone. 

1st I was shocked to see my phone in somebody else's hand.  And moreso, that the phone was actually returned to me, and so quickly.   Somebody had to have seen us in the 1st building,  to know to come directly up to us with the phone.   I thanked him, and the driver accepted my gratitude and left.    This is one of those rare moments where I didnt immediately feel the urge to whip out some pesos to have something returned to me.   

And the driver didnt give me the idea he was angling for a propina, just returning something that was lost.    Every once in a while,  a local shows a different mindset than the ones who would feel owed something for giving back an item.    Thing is, the phone was lost for no more than 7 minutes.

I would have felt different and offered a propina if I had left, and the person that found it was like a passerby.  ( but then i would still judge the situation by the body language ).    Dont want to offend a local by acting like I have to give money.     This guy didnt appear like he returned it in order to get paid.   Where im from,  people are generally good with just returning the item to it's owner, without expecting a reward.  The situation happened so fast.  In hindsight,  I wish i would have paid for his lunch that day. 

Enroute to Zona Colonial,  my travel companion,  I'll call him Mike.   We exchanged numbers, just in case we might meet again.   Dropped him off 1st, and I walked until I got to my destination on El Conde.    Met up with my buddy who was with another buddy.    I was starved so we found a spot a few blocks away, and we all had lunch.   Went to my buddies crib, dropped off my bag,  and chilled there until it was time to go back out. 

My buddies plan was for all of us to meet up at SegaZona bar/restaurant on the far east end of El Conde.   There,  they had the 2 for 1 drink special 2pm to 6pm.   Since none of us were hungry, we just drank.   I thought about my new travel buddy that I took the Uber with.  He had told me that he had a chica scheduled to come see him later.   Out of curiosity I texted him to find out how did he make out.  To which he replied that she cancelled, and claimed she was coming the next day.

Turns out he had left his hotel and was at the Supermercado a few blocks away.  I asked him if he would join us, and he did. 
2 minutes, brotherman sat down, and now we are a party of 5.  3 expats, and 2 on vacation.   Stimulating conversation with cats all around the same age.   For me, this is one of the things I enjoy most about being in the DR as an expat.   

A lot of guys that come to the DR for the chicas cant relate to that.  5 days in the DR, especially in Sosua, and they have had enough.  The ignorant criticisms from certain cats about expats living in Sosua is typical.   They have no clue about the quality of life one may enjoy here, which is much more than simply Sosua being only about hoes and mongers.    I know why some guys talk like that.  They are just ignorant and immature. 

At some point,  we paid our bill and parted ways.   Perhaps in the future, I will meet up with Mike another day,  and who knows,  it may not necessarily be in the DR?    Oh BTW what I admired about Mike,  was that he was somewhat of a loner.   Travels solo all over the world.  No wingmen,  just himself. 

But still,  open to meet and socialize with new people.   I admire that quality.   I am like that myself.   We all got a chuckle.   My buddy and I ( who I came to meet ) revealed our handles on this forum and another.  As soon as he heard the handle, he recognized it right away.   Mike had said he was mostly a lurker.  But he gathered a lot of intel from all over this forum.  Which helped him make moves.   Too bad I didnt bump into him sooner when he 1st arrived in Sosua.   I could have offered to show him around some more.   Plus introduce him to the cool tourists and expats that I know.   

If you are reading this post Mike.  It was a pleasure meeting you.   Take care of yourself, and happy travels.   

 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 15, 2020, 09:19:40 AM
October 11, 2020 continued

I have an old regular that lives somewhere close to SD.  I was thinking of hooking up with her.  But I did not advise her I was coming to Santo domingo, because I wasnt sure how my visit in SD was going to go.  I was only going to be in SD for 24hrs.  While I was at SegaZona I tried to get in touch with her.   Took her a while to get back to me.  This is an interesting old regular.   

I call her Round Ass.  because when I 1st met her back in 2014,  her ass is definitely round.   She stopped coming to Sosua on a regular basis a few years ago.  She built a roster of regulars over the years, and WU suckers, that she has no need to come to Sosua and pound any pavement.   Mind you, this is something that a lot of chicks are currently doing.   Many are not coming to Sosua.    The chicks can just use social media, and their old contacts and do just fine.   

Plus a lot of chicks that live further south in the DR,  they go to Bavaro to ply their trade.   And that is what I found out about Round Ass.  Round ass texts me almost every day,  no mater where I am in the world.   This time,  it was me reaching out to her while I was in SD.  It only takes her 40 min to get to me from where she lives.  Los Alcarrizzos.    This time it was different.   She responded to my text hours later.

1st thing she says, do you want to see me?  I hate when they put it like that.  But it is what it is.   I said yes.  Then she tells me ( in VM ) that she was going to Bavaro ( or in Bavaro ) for her birthday.  But she said she will come by at 830pm.   We agreed, and that was that.   But, something told me to advise her to get a cheap taxi.   I dont want her pulling up, and the driver telling her some ridiculous amount.  To which she replied no problem.

About an hour later,  she texts me to tell me that she wont be able to get a taxi, because the taxi has a problem coming back when the curfew starts.   She said she could come tomorrow early.   A couple of things entered my mind.  One she was already in Bavaro working,  had a client lined up back near SD,  or I was outbid.   Or she was telling the truth for once,  about the taxi situation.  In her case, why mess up a bird in the hand situation.   If I agreed to the next day, it would be a win/win for her.   But it was a win/win for me as well.

Because I wasnt 100% sure I wanted company that night.  I mainly did it so I wouldnt have regrets afterwards of not calling her to come over.   Last time I saw her is when I went to Colombia flying out of SD, in Jan.  Saw her when I was going to SD before flying to Colombia.  And saw her again in Feb when I returned to the DR from Colombia.   Good company/sessions each time.  No discussion of price.  Our history was our collateral for not having to negotiate.  Gave her 4000 each visit.   

Unfortunately for her, I did not intend to stay in SD more than 24 hours.   I was on the bus the next day heading back home.
Of course that morning she was blowing up my phone so she could come get her money,  err I mean come visit me.  Had to tell her that I had left to go back.   No problem for her.   Im sure she has enough on her plate to keep her busy.   

Everything was going smooth on the trip home until the Metro bus broke down near the highway that connects to Haina.   Got stuck along side of the road for an hour.   They supplied another bus and we continued on.    This was lightening striking again for me.   Because back in February, the 27th Dominican Independence Day, my Metro bus broke down in the mountains heading to Puerto Plata.   We were making excellent time because it was a holiday and hardly any traffic on the road.   But once the buss started having problems, the bus driver could only do about 30 miles an hour ( especially uphill in the mountains ), and able to creep back to Puerto Plata without completely breaking down.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on October 15, 2020, 02:36:33 PM
These are good reads.  A nice change from the same topics over and over and bitching over shit.  Sort of a day in the life of an RD expat sort of series. ????????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 15, 2020, 05:08:46 PM
These are good reads.  A nice change from the same topics over and over and bitching over shit.  Sort of a day in the life of an RD expat sort of series. ????????
Thanks Ace!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 15, 2020, 06:16:32 PM
LoL! Please don't call him Ace! Haha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on October 15, 2020, 06:55:41 PM
Streets official

What’s that joke ??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 15, 2020, 08:15:59 PM
Aceillmatic...and what is dead may never die.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 16, 2020, 07:07:52 AM
LoL! Please don't call him Ace! Haha
It's just one expression I use.   Some of my friends from work over the years heard me saying it, and they end up using it themselves.   Same with "Copy that"  "I copy" or "Roger that".    The latter expressions came from me watching too many war movies and the TV series "24". 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on October 16, 2020, 08:48:29 AM
Murano can u speak on the downsides to living out there.  Or is year round sunshine, beaches, and an abundance of readily available young pussy all it seems cracked up to be?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 16, 2020, 05:57:22 PM
Murano can u speak on the downsides to living out there.  Or is year round sunshine, beaches, and an abundance of readily available young pussy all it seems cracked up to be?

Cons :

Cant get/buy everything you need or want in the DR.  Variety or availability of items can be limited. 
Somethings that are imported cost a lot more to buy or to ship them here. 
Infrastructure sucks at times : Power outages, bad roads, bad lighting, non existent or poorly enforced building codes etc.
Sometimes animals are not properly handled or managed.  They may end up on the road causing a hazard to motorists. 
Gringo taxing on goods and services ( not always )
When rainy season kicks in, it may rain almost every day for a whole month or more.   
Hurricanes come through every now and then.  They are worse on the south coast.   
People can be inconsiderate and down right reckless on the road.  Things not strapped down or secure.  Driving against traffic.   On the highway with a bicycle or scooter.   
Vehicle safety for cars, motos or trucks is not properly enforced or maintained. 
The potential threat of locals taking advantage of a situation to fleece foreigners.   
Cleanliness of locals handling food or goods is suspect.  Especially vendors.   Kitchens at restaurants are not always sanitary.   Employee habits and cleanliness is not always monitored.   Cats and dogs are sometimes allowed to roam around a restaurant. 
This could be a pro or a con.  Missing family or friends when away from where you are from.   
Having to go back to where one is from, to handle important matters.   
IMO, trying to establish a real relationship with a regular woman in the DR is probably very difficult.  Especially one where a man is not expected to take care of the woman financially.  In other words, I believe it's hard to find a woman who just wants a man for who he is, and not what he is bringing to the table financially.   So in essence, if he loses his ability to provide, or stops providing,  that relationship/marriage would eventually fail.   


Pros :

Affordable living.  Housing,utilities,communication and internet costs
Pressure to impress is non existent.  That applies to what you drive, how you dress, what you did for a living.
Mostly year round good weather
You can buy big ticket items with the money you save on other stuff
You can choose the type of arrangement with women you want.   Marriage, GF, jump off, maid,p4p
You can even take a break from dealing with women, if you dont wanna be bothered. 
Living in an environment with an abundance of women, a man does not have to be thirsty or frivolous spending money just to get laid.   Being in Sosua with lots of women,  is like a cook being around a lot of food.   Being around it/them, is no big deal.     You know it is there when you want it.   
A person may tend to be healthier living in a tropical environment
You have less temptation of relying only on processed food
Sosua is a tourist town, but it also has a local non tourist vibe as well.  You dont have to live like a tourist , nor is one restricted to tourist activities or venues. 
Just because you live in Sosua does not mean, one is confined to Sosua.   
You are not like a local who is unable to leave the country.  Your passport gives you the ability to leave, come back and reset.
You can order things you need online in many cases.   Or put them in your luggage and bring it here. 
Personal grooming services is cheap ( massage, nail service,barber )
Labor on repairs may be cheap.  Such as hiring an electrician, building a house, car or motorcycle repair, appliances etc.
They do not routinely stop people for speeding.  Example driving 50km in a 30km zone
You can park a car in any direction in many areas.  The car does not have to be facing in the same direction of traffic. 
Prostitution with legal aged individuals is not illegal.  Understood as somewhat necessary for survival.   
Discrimination due to age when it comes to men and women hooking up , is a non issue.   
Regular DR women in the DR are not that bent out of shape of being approached in public.  As long as it's done tastefully and respectfully. 


If I think of anything else,  I'll add it later. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 21, 2020, 05:38:32 PM
Wednesday October 21, 2020

Ok took a ride around town, and noticed a few things :

1.  Terra Linda restaurant is now open.  Not sure if the hotel is open as well.   Dont forget, they used to add 28% taxes to the bill.   I have not noticed if Pizzaria Uno oven is open.   But i'll check it out.

2.  Old Bourbon Street location that is under construction, is going to be a clothing and general merchandise store.  I was told it was not going to sell food.     Apparently it is going to look similar to the clothing/general merchandise store across the street.  I got this information from the workers there.  An Asian gentleman was standing nearby supervising their work.     Looking at the interior paneling, glass cases and shelving,  nothing to me indicates food will be sold there. 

3. Merengue Bar/Hot Pepper is open, but business is super slow, as well as Brick City Flames bar/restaurant across the street.

4.  Matteos Seafood restaurant on PC, the owner Matt claims business is very slow.   He's not sure how long he can stay open.  In fact,  Im not sure how well any of the restaurants are doing on the strip,  except for Kings, and Flip Flop.   Steve from Sinatras threw in the towel months ago when you could only get take out.   

5.  A new restaurant caseta is under construction on the beach.   It's going to be next door to Big D's BBQ and The Tree House's new kitchen.  Serving smoked ribs/chicken and sides.    Supposed to be called Zanzibar.   Projected opening in Dec. 

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 21, 2020, 05:58:36 PM
If I can ask, how close is the new spot across from cesturhq to opening?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 21, 2020, 06:25:35 PM
If I can ask, how close is the new spot across from cesturhq to opening?
Hard to say.  This year is almost a wrap unless something major happens.   Figure on possibly next year.   With the new president, and current tourism and health officials on deck, Im not sure what their zoning plans are for Sosua.   

Of course you know, the Red Light district was formed when the prior mayor and tourism officials were in office.   Now it's just a matter of when will discos,clubs, casinos and bars ( without restaurants ) be allowed to re-open?   That is what that new complex has to deal with.  But bear in mind,  they are very much still under construction way in the back of the complex.   They will have plenty of time to get it ready.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 21, 2020, 06:50:23 PM
Thank you it's good to know and maybe it will be finished by superbowl weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 21, 2020, 07:24:20 PM
Today a Dominican kid flew by me on his motorcycle.   Unbeknownst to him,  he dropped his phone.  I kinda expected him to turn around and come back to get it.  But apparently he didnt realize it had dropped in the street.

I picked it up,  hung around for a few minutes, figuring he would retrace his movements and come back.   But the way this dude was driving ( fast and reckless ) , he would be hard pressed to know where to start looking.   Fortunately for him his phone was not protected by a pass code.

Went into his phone looking for clues.  And 1st thing popped up was a couple of Whats app convos.   The most recent ones were to women.  I knew if I told any of those chicks that I found his phone,  they might send somebody to come get the phone.  Once they got his phone, there is no telling what kind of drama that may stir up.   No,   I nixed that idea.   

One of the chicks kept calling on his phone.   I answered once hoping it was the guy, but it was just the chick.   She texted the phone saying she was just a friend of his.   I swear I was picking up a little vibe there.   I say that,  because the whatsapp convo the dude was having, was him expressing interest in her friend, not her.   The pic in this chicks profile,  was looking right.   And i do know that strange things can happen from mistakes.   I have had a few chicks over the years mis dial, and once they hear a gringo on the other end,  they act interested instead of hanging up right away.   

Kept looking in his whatsapp convos until I saw a contact with the reference Tio ( Uncle ).   Texted that dude.   Took him a minute but he got back to me.  Explained that I found the phone.  We agreed that we could handle the return of the phone sometime tomorrow.   I was communicating with him on the lost phone.   I have an active dummy sim that I barely use.   I eventually gave him that number just in case the lost phone ended up giving me a problem.   

About 20 minutes later,  an unknown number pops up on my dummy phone, and it's the guy texting me who the phone allegedly belongs to.   I ask him a few questions to get the feel of him being the owner.    Once we got that out of the way,  we agreed to meet somewhere tomorrow.   

The highlight of this story,  is just last week I lost my phone at the Metro Bus terminal in Santo Domingo.   And a Dominican courier on a moto returned the phone to me.   And now , I have the opportunity to make somebody else happy by returning their property.  The key here,  is that this guys phone was not locked.   So I was able to search inside to get information on the owner in his Google account,  and make contact with a relative.   

My phone would have been more difficult to find me or get the phone back to me.   Because one would need biometrics or my pin code to get in.       What puzzles me though,  he never called his own phone once he realized it was lost.   He only called my dummy number, presumably after his uncle gave him my contact number.     Now,  this mugg better not be late tomorrow.   Because the same as a chica, if he is late and doesnt call or text letting me know his status,  I'm ghost.      If he's late,  I'll let him know where we can meet,  where I'll probably be more stationary.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: VivaLaVega on October 22, 2020, 04:21:08 AM
Maybe when traveling it might be a good idea to have on the wallpaper of the phone:

“If found return to New Garden Hotel” 1000RD reward.

Also that way if it locked and gets stolen, the Chica who stole it could give it to her no up to come get some cash.

But I am never organized enough to do shit  like that...



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on October 22, 2020, 05:30:20 AM
Sir your good deed for the Day, Kudos    ,Im going to Guess your not married or have a state side GF,  albeit you returned the phone to the guy and your phone was returned as well,, the only real bad thing is you dont want to loose the phone in the first place and if its unlocked,  What would happen if a chica found your phone then dialed your whife looking for the owner   could be a marrige wrecker,,,  So married Guys have a secret burner phone  if that gets lost o big deal, and you SO wont get the surprise fone call from some chica  saying  Papi es tu telephono haha !   Unless your like most married guys that are like penocikieo that can fib and tell a good lie ,your on a secret mission or playing golf with the guys and the DR golf ranges are to die for  ,theres an other good topic  good exscuses to tell your SO your not f--king young wet DR pussy 101 !   
 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 22, 2020, 08:22:36 AM
Update on lost phone situation.   A person called Mami was blowing up the phone last night.  And called in the morning.   Ladies profile pic was FINE!   Nice to see a mom concerned about her son.   No need for me to answer, I'll see the owner of the lost phone in a few minutes.     So, I left my spot this morning to head to the Texaco gas station to meet the young man to give him his phone.   In his phone is a picture of his motorbike, and last night his Tio sent a picture of his nephew to his Whatsapp.   So I had a pretty good idea of who to look for. 

The meeting time was 8:30am.   By 8:25 my dummy phone got a message and a phone call letting me know that he was at Texaco waiting.  LMAO.   Almost the 1st time in a long time having a Dominican calling me to tell me that they are already at the meeting place.  It's usually the other way around.   I'm waiting for them like a silly rabbit,  and them telling me they are on their way.  Or  "Cinco minutos mas"  "Mi telefono no funciona"  "Mi bateria es mala"  "estaba dormido".  Fill in Blank_____

I'm almost there and riding a bike,  so no need to answer.   He should know who to look for, because my profile pic is on my Whatsapp.   I get there, and over by PicknSend is the young man with another gentleman who turned out to be his father ( who lives in Montellano )

The young man was very grateful for getting his phone back,  but his father seemed even more grateful.   Spoke some English as well.   Told me, he is happy because his son needs the phone for work ( he's a motoconcho ).   The young man told me that also last night in text.   Dad said sincerely,  if I ever need anything, you have my number just call him.   We said our goodbyes,  dad got on his sons bike and they rode off.   That went better than I thought.

Out of this situation,  I got the vibe that this young man has a normal life and loving family members.   A fine looking mother, a concerned dad, a helpful Uncle, a few cute chicks and other friends in his life.   Hope the young dude has his head on straight.   I only got to see a little slice of normalcy.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 22, 2020, 08:54:53 AM
Maybe when traveling it might be a good idea to have on the wallpaper of the phone:

“If found return to New Garden Hotel” 1000RD reward.

Also that way if it locked and gets stolen, the Chica who stole it could give it to her no up to come get some cash.

But I am never organized enough to do shit  like that...
That is better than nothing.   But most people dont think about losing their phones.  It's the one device most people try to keep close.   Like a wallet.   The week I misplaced my phone,  that incident reinforced for me to tighten up my own personal security and awareness of what Im doing.   

I have a bad habit that Im staying on top of.   Stop putting my phones in my pockets with loose cash ( or dont put cash in pockets where it's easy to come out ).   And dont put phones in pockets that are not deep enough, especially if they have no zippers.     When I pull the phones out,  most of the time the cash sticks to the side of the phone and ends up on the ground.   Coins is easy to hear fall, but not paper.     I have had too many instances where someone points to the ground,  or I look and find a wad of pesos laying on the ground where Im sitting.      This post is my reinforcement.   If I dont learn to secure my stuff,  somebody will teach me.   You can bet on that!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 22, 2020, 09:01:43 AM
Sir your good deed for the Day, Kudos    ,Im going to Guess your not married or have a state side GF,  albeit you returned the phone to the guy and your phone was returned as well,, the only real bad thing is you dont want to loose the phone in the first place and if its unlocked,  What would happen if a chica found your phone then dialed your whife looking for the owner   could be a marrige wrecker,,,  So married Guys have a secret burner phone  if that gets lost o big deal, and you SO wont get the surprise fone call from some chica  saying  Papi es tu telephono haha !   Unless your like most married guys that are like penocikieo that can fib and tell a good lie ,your on a secret mission or playing golf with the guys and the DR golf ranges are to die for  ,theres an other good topic  good exscuses to tell your SO your not f--king young wet DR pussy 101 !
Fortunately,  those concerns dont exist for me.   But I can see how that could be a problem for maybe someone else.   Even for the young man that lost his phone.   I could have f--ked up his program if I gave the phone to some chick in his contacts,  and it turned out she was looking to find something in it to bust him with.   

Thats why I searched for a contact in the phone that seemed safe to deal with.         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JoeyInNY on October 22, 2020, 09:54:44 AM
Maybe when traveling it might be a good idea to have on the wallpaper of the phone:

“If found return to New Garden Hotel” 1000RD reward.

Also that way if it locked and gets stolen, the Chica who stole it could give it to her no up to come get some cash.

But I am never organized enough to do shit  like that...

I have a sticker on the back of mine with my e-mail address. It came in handy when a TSA homo felt me up at the airport and it fell out of my jacket. Didn't realize it until I got on the plane. Got an e-mail the next day and picked it up when I got home. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 22, 2020, 10:35:19 AM
Maybe when traveling it might be a good idea to have on the wallpaper of the phone:

“If found return to New Garden Hotel” 1000RD reward.

Also that way if it locked and gets stolen, the Chica who stole it could give it to her no up to come get some cash.

But I am never organized enough to do shit  like that...

I have a sticker on the back of mine with my e-mail address. It came in handy when a TSA homo felt me up at the airport and it fell out of my jacket. Didn't realize it until I got on the plane. Got an e-mail the next day and picked it up when I got home.
I like the idea of an email.   I have seen some people have a sticker of their cell number on their phones.  Usually because the tech puts it on the customers phone, or the owner cant remember their number.   Someone can call the number and leave a message.   But that could be an inconvenience to someone with no way to call the number.      Email makes it so much easier and convenient for the finder.    I may get some stickers from the Computer Copy Centro and put my email on my phones.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 22, 2020, 05:33:34 PM
Thursday October 22 2020 cont......

Pizzaria Uno's oven at Terra Linda is open.   

Im starting to see more police activity on the streets ( especially on Pedro Clisante ) harassing and rounding up chicas.   And it's not just Cestur.   It's also Policia Nacionals and other branches in various uniforms.   This afternoon around 5ish, a car full of chicks looking like working girls and other women standing around was surrounded by about 8 or more cops.   A few of them were escorted to a pickup and whisked away.   This was between Europa and Plan B.

Then I saw 2 female officers w/guns and clubs on the sidewalk at Chez Montreal,  stop at a table of 4 chicas to presumably question them.  I didnt stay long enough to see if any action was taken.   But IMO it seems that a campaign to corral these chicas that are out and about and especially on the street is picking up momentum here in Sosua.   Looks like it's going to be harder and harder for some of these chicks to move about freely, and hustle.   

This may put some of these chicas in a certain frame of mind that they may need to change their attitude about holding out just to get the most they can get.   And start looking at securing a client as necessary, not an option.   

Also Amet and PN police have been selective in enforcing the face mask, helmet and having vehicle/bike credentials ready if they stop you.    So one day somebody may get away with having no helmet, or no face mask.  And then another day,  the police decide to go all out stopping people.   

The beach face mask policy up til now is very lax.  Nobody is bothering anybody while on the beach about that.   People self enforce wearing their masks if they want to.   


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 23, 2020, 09:35:23 AM
Pumping my muthablubbing brakes.    Just found out something about the chica in the Whatsapp contact of the young man who lost his phone.   I said before that she has a friend he is interested in.   After my contact with her on his phone, and then on my phone,   I had a feeling she wasnt done with me,  even after I told her that the phone was returned to her friend.

At 1st I thought this might be the makings of something.   I asked her where she was from , turns out from Montellano, and of her status of having a boyfriend/novio.   She said no tengo.    I said ok maybe one day we may meet.   Thats when she texted me this.  "Pero te explico que aun soy menor de edad"   Basically saying,  I have to explain that I am a minor.   That word minor is f--ked up all by itself.   She didnt just say,  I am only 17.   She said I am a minor.   

Of course in her Whatsapp profile,  you cant tell her age.  But it is what it is.   She said she doesnt turn 18 until next year.   Damn it!    Then she kept asking me how old I was.  I just told her very old.   Do you have an older sister?   No response to that. LOL  Then she tells me something to the effect,  that age is no problem when it comes to love.   

Thats when I went for the soft landing.   Said it was nice talking to her, and to enjoy her day.    If anything comes of this from somebody reading her exchange,  I got proof of what did not go down.   Whew!!!   Close call. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 23, 2020, 09:51:33 AM
I've met a couple suspect chicas online and I always tell them to meet me inside a club, or bar that has security at the entrance.  When they say they can't then, neither can I. Fortunately the majority of chicas are of age. When in doubt, have security check that cedula, twice!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 23, 2020, 09:58:21 AM
I've met a couple suspect chicas online and I always tell them to meet me inside a club, or bar that has security at the entrance.  When they say they can't then, neither can I. Fortunately the majority of chicas are of age. When in doubt, have security check that cedula, twice!!
No doubt.  I actually commend the young lady I was conversing with for being upfront instead of trying to hook a dude.  There is no doubt in my mind,  as long as she was not trying to set me up to get in trouble,  she actually wanted to proceed in us meeting.   Until that 18th BD,  that aint happening.  But by then,  she may have already been ran through by the local boys.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 23, 2020, 11:08:50 AM
On WhatsApp or FB if I suspect they’re not of age I simply ask them do they have a cédula. Any response other than yes effectively ends the conversation.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 23, 2020, 12:02:45 PM
On WhatsApp or FB if I suspect they’re not of age I simply ask them do they have a cédula. Any response other than yes effectively ends the conversation.
It may be a good idea to ask that question even if one doesnt suspect it.   However, the reality is,  any online, a mis dial or weird circumstance is suspect until one actually knows who they are really talking to.   It doesnt even have to be about age.  It could be about anything one is putting themselves at risk to.   Many dudes have met chicks online, like in Colombia and got drugged by the chick.   

In my case,  I could have been talking to a detective or someones family member.  And even a yes to having a cedula, a picture of a cedula with the right data, and them sending me videos of themselves, doesnt mean one is talking to an individual that is of age.    It's always a risk if one tries to connect with someone unknown. 

Which was probably why the young man that lost his phone brought his father with him to the Texaco gas station to retrieve his sons phone.    They didnt know who they were dealing with,  just as I didnt know who they were.   Thats why I chose the meeting spot. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 23, 2020, 05:43:25 PM
Friday October 23, 2020

Is there a chica convention in town?  The beach was full of chicas, especially in the open area by Jorge Mayra #64 and Mofongo King #74.  Even heading in the direction of the parking lot about 50 yards from the open area there were other businesses with tables full of patrons w/chicas.   

My guess is this may be the overflow from chicas not being allowed to patrol freely on the strip and around town.  It may also have something to do with the chica network putting out the word of planes coming in of potential paying customers.   So more chicas are here to make money than usual.  Enough of these chicas look new to Sosua even to me.   I noticed today and yesterday a lot more guys ( some looking relatively new to Sosua ) walking around in bunches.  With male hustlers and optimistic chicas in tow.   

When i left the beach,  Kings had chicas inside but the place wasnt full of chicas like I normally would see around 5pm.   There were chicas just less of them.   This time I see 2 tables occupied ( on the sidewalk ) by chicas as I passed by Chez Montreal.   Not many chicas freely walking.   More moving about by moto.   Leads me to believe LE is responsible for their movements.   

IMO guys are nicely outnumbered by the volume of chicas Ive seen thus far.   Chicas were packed close at the tables I saw on the beach.   I hope this resonates as an advantage for the guys.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mr Back Shot on October 23, 2020, 08:43:49 PM
I seen them cleaning the glass at blue ice and the lights were going. Did they just reopen ? I normally don't cut down that street much.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 23, 2020, 09:32:01 PM
Theyre advertising on IG...so yeah and soon
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on October 24, 2020, 12:35:43 AM
Friday October 23, 2020

Is there a chica convention in town?  The beach was full of chicas, especially in the open area by Jorge Mayra #64 and Mofongo King $74.  Even heading in the direction of the parking lot about 50 yards from the open area there were other businesses with tables full of patrons w/chicas.   

My guess is this may be the overflow from chicas not being allowed to patrol freely on the strip and around town.  It may also have something to do with the chica network putting out the word of planes coming in of potential paying customers.   So more chicas are here to make money than usual.  Enough of these chicas look new to Sosua even to me.   I noticed today and yesterday a lot more guys ( some looking relatively new to Sosua ) walking around in bunches.  With male hustlers and optimistic chicas in tow.   

When i left the beach,  Kings had chicas inside but the place wasnt full of chicas like I normally would see around 5pm.   There were chicas just less of them.   This time I see 2 tables occupied ( on the sidewalk ) by chicas as I passed by Chez Montreal.   Not many chicas freely walking.   More moving about by moto.   Leads me to believe LE is responsible for their movements.   

IMO guys are nicely outnumbered by the volume of chicas Ive seen thus far.   Chicas were packed close at the tables I saw on the beach.   I hope this resonates as an advantage for the guys.

Probably has something to do with Halloween celebrations being only a few days away as well.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 24, 2020, 01:51:53 PM
Friday October 23, 2020

Is there a chica convention in town?  The beach was full of chicas, especially in the open area by Jorge Mayra #64 and Mofongo King $74.  Even heading in the direction of the parking lot about 50 yards from the open area there were other businesses with tables full of patrons w/chicas.   

My guess is this may be the overflow from chicas not being allowed to patrol freely on the strip and around town.  It may also have something to do with the chica network putting out the word of planes coming in of potential paying customers.   So more chicas are here to make money than usual.  Enough of these chicas look new to Sosua even to me.   I noticed today and yesterday a lot more guys ( some looking relatively new to Sosua ) walking around in bunches.  With male hustlers and optimistic chicas in tow.   

When i left the beach,  Kings had chicas inside but the place wasnt full of chicas like I normally would see around 5pm.   There were chicas just less of them.   This time I see 2 tables occupied ( on the sidewalk ) by chicas as I passed by Chez Montreal.   Not many chicas freely walking.   More moving about by moto.   Leads me to believe LE is responsible for their movements.   

IMO guys are nicely outnumbered by the volume of chicas Ive seen thus far.   Chicas were packed close at the tables I saw on the beach.   I hope this resonates as an advantage for the guys.

Probably has something to do with Halloween celebrations being only a few days away as well.
A bunch of Treats trying to catch some Tricks?   Ot the other way around? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: VThevan on October 24, 2020, 08:18:02 PM
Monday October 11, 2020

Took a 8:20am Metro bus from Sosua to Santo Domingo.   Cost 390 pesos.  No toilet on this bus.   Was going there just to meet up with a buddy.   At the bus station, a gentleman close to my age showed up to take the bus.   We ended up sitting across from each other in the same row.   Masks were supposed to be mandatory.  But I didnt see anybody making any fuss over enforcing it once on the bus.   Smooth ride.   Bus made it's usual stops.  Puerto Plata and Santiago.

Any women that boarded appeared to be regular women.  Once the bus was getting close to Santo Domingo, the fellow across from me communicated about something.  We discovered that we both were going somewhat in the same direction ( Zona Colonial ).   With that, we agreed to share an Uber.   If I recall, the Uber was about 275 pesos.   We split the fare.   Uber is great.

Prior to us getting the Uber,  I had went across to the next bldg to use the restroom.  Came out and joined my travel companion to wait for the Uber.  5 minutes later, a Dominican fella stopped by on his moto with packages ( he seemed to be a courier at the bus station ) to show me that he found a phone in the station.  Apparently I had dropped or left my phone on the seat while me and my new travel partner were working on the Uber ride on his phone. 

1st I was shocked to see my phone in somebody else's hand.  And moreso, that the phone was actually returned to me, and so quickly.   Somebody had to have seen us in the 1st building,  to know to come directly up to us with the phone.   I thanked him, and the driver accepted my gratitude and left.    This is one of those rare moments where I didnt immediately feel the urge to whip out some pesos to have something returned to me.   

And the driver didnt give me the idea he was angling for a propina, just returning something that was lost.    Every once in a while,  a local shows a different mindset than the ones who would feel owed something for giving back an item.    Thing is, the phone was lost for no more than 7 minutes.

I would have felt different and offered a propina if I had left, and the person that found it was like a passerby.  ( but then i would still judge the situation by the body language ).    Dont want to offend a local by acting like I have to give money.     This guy didnt appear like he returned it in order to get paid.   Where im from,  people are generally good with just returning the item to it's owner, without expecting a reward.  The situation happened so fast.  In hindsight,  I wish i would have paid for his lunch that day. 

Enroute to Zona Colonial,  my travel companion,  I'll call him Mike.   We exchanged numbers, just in case we might meet again.   Dropped him off 1st, and I walked until I got to my destination on El Conde.    Met up with my buddy who was with another buddy.    I was starved so we found a spot a few blocks away, and we all had lunch.   Went to my buddies crib, dropped off my bag,  and chilled there until it was time to go back out. 

My buddies plan was for all of us to meet up at SegaZona bar/restaurant on the far east end of El Conde.   There,  they had the 2 for 1 drink special 2pm to 6pm.   Since none of us were hungry, we just drank.   I thought about my new travel buddy that I took the Uber with.  He had told me that he had a chica scheduled to come see him later.   Out of curiosity I texted him to find out how did he make out.  To which he replied that she cancelled, and claimed she was coming the next day.

Turns out he had left his hotel and was at the Supermercado a few blocks away.  I asked him if he would join us, and he did. 
2 minutes, brotherman sat down, and now we are a party of 5.  3 expats, and 2 on vacation.   Stimulating conversation with cats all around the same age.   For me, this is one of the things I enjoy most about being in the DR as an expat.   

A lot of guys that come to the DR for the chicas cant relate to that.  5 days in the DR, especially in Sosua, and they have had enough.  The ignorant criticisms from certain cats about expats living in Sosua is typical.   They have no clue about the quality of life one may enjoy here, which is much more than simply Sosua being only about hoes and mongers.    I know why some guys talk like that.  They are just ignorant and immature. 

At some point,  we paid our bill and parted ways.   Perhaps in the future, I will meet up with Mike another day,  and who knows,  it may not necessarily be in the DR?    Oh BTW what I admired about Mike,  was that he was somewhat of a loner.   Travels solo all over the world.  No wingmen,  just himself. 

But still,  open to meet and socialize with new people.   I admire that quality.   I am like that myself.   We all got a chuckle.   My buddy and I ( who I came to meet ) revealed our handles on this forum and another.  As soon as he heard the handle, he recognized it right away.   Mike had said he was mostly a lurker.  But he gathered a lot of intel from all over this forum.  Which helped him make moves.   Too bad I didnt bump into him sooner when he 1st arrived in Sosua.   I could have offered to show him around some more.   Plus introduce him to the cool tourists and expats that I know.   

If you are reading this post Mike.  It was a pleasure meeting you.   Take care of yourself, and happy travels.


Hi Murano,
I am finally back home and had the time to review your post. I feel very lucky to meet up with you on my travel to SD and later your friends. It was a great meeting and it was pleasure to have a conversation with like minded buddies. I also wish I had connected with you earlier when I was in Sosua for three days. As I mentioned, I had one good session out of the four, but it's all on me being first time at Sosua. But I enjoyed the Sosua beach very much and also I liked the visit to the Cable car mountain.  With this forum and buddies like you, hopefully, my next visit would be better.

Over all, my trip to DR was good, as I had a mix of tourism (Samana and Rincon beach was the highlight of my trip) and mongering. While I didn't enjoy the mongering portion as good as I had in Colombia (Medellin and Bogata), this still was a great experience, compared to some of my other countries. In any case, this trip was special, due to my meeting with you and your friends. Also, as you have mentioned, we can always meet up at other places/countries, if we can plan ahead. Thanks again for all your advice and hospitality.

Mike VT
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 25, 2020, 05:00:46 AM

Hi Murano,
I am finally back home and had the time to review your post. I feel very lucky to meet up with you on my travel to SD and later your friends. It was a great meeting and it was pleasure to have a conversation with like minded buddies. I also wish I had connected with you earlier when I was in Sosua for three days. As I mentioned, I had one good session out of the four, but it's all on me being first time at Sosua. But I enjoyed the Sosua beach very much and also I liked the visit to the Cable car mountain.  With this forum and buddies like you, hopefully, my next visit would be better.

Over all, my trip to DR was good, as I had a mix of tourism (Samana and Rincon beach was the highlight of my trip) and mongering. While I didn't enjoy the mongering portion as good as I had in Colombia (Medellin and Bogata), this still was a great experience, compared to some of my other countries. In any case, this trip was special, due to my meeting with you and your friends. Also, as you have mentioned, we can always meet up at other places/countries, if we can plan ahead. Thanks again for all your advice and hospitality.

Mike VT
Thanks for the kind words.    And I'm glad you made it back safely.   We'll see how things go, especially when more destinations open up.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 25, 2020, 07:01:20 PM
Sunday October 25 2020

The beach was a combination of family day and chicas searching for clients day.   Plenty of hustlers getting work from the many guys that have no clue that they dont need them.    Ok Im at my spot on the beach chilling with a couple of guys.

A guy I know of, which lives here, showed up to the restaurant with a chick that a friend of mine dates when he is here.  What I am pointing out here is how women like this and others go about juggling men, and feigning their emotions to soften the hearts of the men they target.   The reason this is an important thing to pay attention to,  is because a large majority of men involved with "good' girls,  tend to vouch for the woman's character and the time she spends in a day living and breathing,  as if they really know the woman. 

And then they give women props based on an illusion they manufactured, of whatever the man chooses to believe concerning the woman.    When the couple arrived , she was wearing a pair of large windshield type sunglasses.   The type that helps a woman hide her face behind.   She sat with her back to me most of the time,  and pretended like I was invisible.  Even though there was no way she could have missed me.     She knows me well, because my buddy , her and I went to Santiago a month ago.   She sat in the back while he drove.   We dropped her off in PP when we came back.  She played the good date role well.

At one point she did a selfie video and was aiming her phone so she could see if I was paying attention.   I think she was hoping I didnt recognize her.   And homey was sitting there,  looking like he was in heaven with his date.   My buddy ( the one who messes with her ) told me that some cat was supposed to be taking care of her.   We both figured this guy here with her may be the one.   If this is the guy,  I wonder how he would feel knowing some other dude is plugging her every time he comes down?    And what kind of lies is she telling any of the men , when she makes plans to be with them?   

She is just one example of hundreds of chicas out there doing the exact same thing.   The woman that keeps tabs and mental journals of the men they deal with.   Telling each man a series of lies to keep them all in the dark,  and ramped up to play her game.  Supporting her,  making excuses for her, feeling sorry for her, all because she is a good girl deep down.   

Some cats just refuse to believe that some chica has got them bamboozled on some bullshit level.    It's to the point chicas dont have to ask for anything.  All they have to do is explain that they have a problem.   Some cats are hoping for an excuse so they can part with their hard earned money.   To do so makes them feel good.  They dont even care about any principle.   They justify doing it,  by assuming what they are losing or putting up is chump change.   It supposedly means nothing to them.   And there is nothing in the way of behavior or body language from chicas that would give it away that a guy is being foolish or being played.   

Just like that tourist guy I mentioned awhile ago that had a local purchase a BT speaker for him.   The hustler bought the BT speaker for 1/3 the price he told his foreigner buddy what it cost.   The foreigner thought it cost 3000 pesos, but it was bought for 1000 pesos.  To watch the foreigner and the hustler sitting there having fun with each other,   you would never suspect that the hustler probably regarded his tourist friend as a sucker that needs to be fleeced.    Well that is exactly what a lot of guys are dealing with themselves dealing with women,  they just dont know it.   Especially the real egotistical dudes that actually think the chicks are with them because of their swag.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on October 25, 2020, 07:22:45 PM
I wonder if here "date" is same type of man that must be remined of the following adage, "Don't get made when the next man takes his turn."

Are there good girls out there?   Absolutely.  I just don't think they are in the sex work game.

Of course there are some good girls, but they are definetly not in the majority.

Same thing as not all mongers are dirt bags. I think we should all try to not judge others more harshly then we judge ourselves.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 25, 2020, 07:27:51 PM
I wonder if here "date" is same type of man that must be remined of the following adage, "Don't get made when the next man takes his turn."

Are there good girls out there?   Absolutely.  I just don't think they are in the sex work game.
Enough men may get mad because other men are getting their turn.  But IMO,  the anger for enough men is more about the feelings of betrayal.   Being lied to.   Especially thinking about how he took the time to be concerned for her welfare,  and this is how he gets re paid?   Additionally,  a lot of men actually have genuine feelings for the women they consort with.  Whereas enough women do not share the same feelings towards the men they bamboozle.   They are putting on an Academy Award performance.   Fake sincerity.  Fake appreciation.   Fake Fill in the Blank 

The most important test and weapon a man has at his disposal is the one weapon/test many men will not use.   Withdrawal , stoppage of financial support, or informing that there will be no financial support.  Without financial input in place or on the way,  there is no relationship or association with many if not most women.    ex: Briffaults Law. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 27, 2020, 08:46:32 PM
Was it posted on this forum already, that Casa Marina Beach and Reef ,  the All Inclusive resort ( located on Alejo Martinez across from the baseball field ) is now open?    Well it is, but I havent seen much in terms of guests coming and going.   I will keep looking and report later.   


Casa Marina is basically an All Inclusive, non girl friendly ( working girls ) resort hotel.   Basically for couples and families.    For a single male guest to have a female guest  , he would have to register that individual as a guest staying there.   I have heard of guys that booked there mistakenly, as well as guys who stayed there intentionally,  and used cabanas or other hotels to smash chicas.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on October 28, 2020, 12:37:37 AM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 28, 2020, 01:53:41 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

Are all the bars open on and just off the strip like by Rockys and past Merengue?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: RainmkrNY on October 28, 2020, 02:21:06 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 28, 2020, 03:07:51 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on October 28, 2020, 05:29:01 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.

Did she explain what type of guys she considered herself too good to f--k for cash?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 28, 2020, 06:06:49 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.

Did she explain what type of guys she considered herself too good to f--k for cash?

Based on her tone I interpreted she was referring to guys that were bullshitters or as they say in Texas “all hat and no horse”. You are aware that even hoes are permitted to have preferences. I never understand why that simple truth seems to piss some guys off.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 28, 2020, 06:46:10 PM
@ Jazzy.  Very often when a woman encounters men not spending money according to her standards, she provides a negative label to men.  Thats just standard.  Sometimes one has to know the meaning behind what women say, not what their tone suggests.   Bullshitting can easily mean,  guys are flirting, taking numbers , but not pulling the trigger on a womans time frame.   Then later they see the guy choosing another chica.  That dont sit well with many of those chicas.   The thing though,  none of those men up at Ahnvee owes any women their business.   If they ( the women ) dont like the way the men there go about choosing when and who they connect with,  thats easy, dont come.   

The same way women have preferences , men also have preferences.   And sometimes when a man has a shitload of choices ,  some chicks are going to end up disappointed.   Men may seem flaky and bullshitting,  but it's a buyers market, not a sellers market.  No matter what those name calling chicas think.   

When a woman says no way will she pay 500 pesos etc etc.   What she really means,  she aint gonna compete with the women already there paying 500 pesos to stay there, and who dont have to pay any more just to be there.   When a woman at the club doesnt get to dance like their friends did,  there is usually something wrong with the guys at the club or the place.   It's never her challenges or competition conflicting with her expectations.   

Side note.   There is this skinny Haitian chick that is all over the place.   This one day,  she is walking the beach and comes up to my table, looks at me and says he's mafioso.   Then goes straight to my buddy,  and tries to suck up to him,  asking softly for 300 pesos.   Both of us have no connection to this chick whatsoever.   

The only reason why she called me mafioso is because I do not have or show the slightest interest in her.   And she wants to make an impression with my buddy so she can get something out of him.   And I see her everywhere in town hustling dudes for food and drink, and hopefully a session.    The point is,  when a man does not give a chick what she thinks she deserves,  out pops the names.   

500 pesos to a local is like $50 I get that.   However,  I look beyond their tone of disgust.   There is always more reasons than what they reveal is their problem.   Not to mention,  as soon as some guys leave,  that same chick who claims they wont go to Ahnvee,  actually wants to go to Ahnvee.   She just doesnt want to pay 500.   If some dude paid the chick 500 pesos to get in,  the chick would be up in Ahnvee.   

Not much different than the way some chicks regarded the 200 pesos going up in Clasico.   You had f--ked up dudes up in Clasicos,  as well as bullshitters etc.   Some chicas refused to pay.  Some tried to get a dude outside to pay.   Others made the same excuse that it wasnt worth it because of the guys inside.   It wasnt just the guys.   The chicks had stiff competition.   And some chicks refused to wait hours and hours for some dude to pull the trigger,  only to be underbid by another chick.. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on October 28, 2020, 11:59:20 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

Are all the bars open on and just off the strip like by Rockys and past Merengue?

Merengue was open,,, only past there during the day, couple people in there drinking..
didnt go up there in the evening so not sure how many people was in there.

I walked past Rockys didnt pay any attention I would say it was closed. The Haitian bar next to Merengue was open and some of the other bars going towards Anhvee were open.

That weekend Saturday/Sunday curfew will sneak up on you quick, so on the weekend get out early and do what you need to do.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 29, 2020, 07:08:42 AM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

Are all the bars open on and just off the strip like by Rockys and past Merengue?
There are many bars open as you walk down Pedro Clisante.   If you turn down Dr Rosen in the vicinity of Rockys ,  it's sort of dead.  Those bars right there may be serving drinks/food/snacks, and you'll see some chicas hovering there.   But the cops are monitoring that area very closely,  watching chica movement.   They dont want a bunch of chicas spilled out on the street.   Rockys was doing some cleaning and possible renovation.   They may be contemplating on reopening?  Under new occupancy.   

The main bars that are open usually serve food or are connected to a hotel.    Bars by themselves dont seem to be allowed to open unless they are also selling food.    So if you walk down PC towards Ahnvee, you'll pass by a bunch of bars.   One next to where Banco Progresso.   The colmado has a window.  Further down before Europa a couple there.   Europas outside bar has recently reopened.   And that may be because Ramonas restaurant/bar is right there, where food can also be bought.   

Moving along there is Plan B, then Charley's bar/rest.  Then there is Cheers.  They have a kitchen inside.  Moving further down and across on the right is the bar that opened a while ago when La Pasions was closed down.   Im pretty sure they have food and drink, and a pool table.   Walk past where La Pasions was and cross the street, and it's the new Rancho Tipico trying to make a comeback.   Restaurant w/bar and music.  They may be trying to get back the old vibe.  Of chicas and patrons going there to sing and dance.  It's slow getting there thus far.   

Keep moving about 2 blocks more, and you got small bars/drinking spots just past the colmado stores , that serve food.   Where the Chinese restaurant was is a restaurant bar with a pool table.   Next to that a salon.   There is a bar one block before Ahnvee on the left.  Almost always dead.  But when they were open before ( the pandemic ) ,  they did serve food. 

If you are on PC at Merengue/Hot Pepper bar/rest walking the opposite way towards the beach,  you have the typical restaurants open that also have bars.  German Rest, Mamajuana Bar, Elefante Rojo, spots on the left and spots on the right.    Additionally for those who remember NY Pizza,  that place on the corner across from the small Playero mini mercado is open selling pizza.   

To sum up, there are a lot of businesses with bars that have opened up lately.  And maybe more to come.   When Bailee's and Terra Linda reopened, that right there was a sign that things are turning around.   And when I saw people inside of Rockys fixing the place up, that lead me to believe, yes Sosua is slowly opening back up.    The main problem?   Not enough customer representation at the moment to sustain many of these businesses.     The ones that were opened long before,  did not have any competition.   But now,  it's going to be difficult unless more people come to vacation here.   

During the lockdown or slow down, what that did for many expats is make them more inclined to buy their own food and drink and eat at home more, rather than go out and spend money they didnt have to. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 29, 2020, 11:34:47 AM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

Are all the bars open on and just off the strip like by Rockys and past Merengue?
There are many bars open as you walk down Pedro Clisante.   If you turn down Dr Rosen in the vicinity of Rockys ,  it's sort of dead.  Those bars right there may be serving drinks/food/snacks, and you'll see some chicas hovering there.   But the cops are monitoring that area very closely,  watching chica movement.   They dont want a bunch of chicas spilled out on the street.   Rockys was doing some cleaning and possible renovation.   They may be contemplating on reopening?  Under new occupancy.   

The main bars that are open usually serve food or are connected to a hotel.    Bars by themselves dont seem to be allowed to open unless they are also selling food.    So if you walk down PC towards Ahnvee, you'll pass by a bunch of bars.   One next to where Banco Progresso.   The colmado has a window.  Further down before Europa a couple there.   Europas outside bar has recently reopened.   And that may be because Ramonas restaurant/bar is right there, where food can also be bought.   

Moving along there is Plan B, then Charley's bar/rest.  Then there is Cheers.  They have a kitchen inside.  Moving further down and across on the right is the bar that opened a while ago when La Pasions was closed down.   Im pretty sure they have food and drink, and a pool table.   Walk past where La Pasions was and cross the street, and it's the new Rancho Tipico trying to make a comeback.   Restaurant w/bar and music.  They may be trying to get back the old vibe.  Of chicas and patrons going there to sing and dance.  It's slow getting there thus far.   

Keep moving about 2 blocks more, and you got small bars/drinking spots just past the colmado stores , that serve food.   Where the Chinese restaurant was is a restaurant bar with a pool table.   Next to that a salon.   There is a bar one block before Ahnvee on the left.  Almost always dead.  But when they were open before ( the pandemic ) ,  they did serve food. 

If you are on PC at Merengue/Hot Pepper bar/rest walking the opposite way towards the beach,  you have the typical restaurants open that also have bars.  German Rest, Mamajuana Bar, Elefante Rojo, spots on the left and spots on the right.    Additionally for those who remember NY Pizza,  that place on the corner across from the small Playero mini mercado is open selling pizza.   

To sum up, there are a lot of businesses with bars that have opened up lately.  And maybe more to come.   When Bailee's and Terra Linda reopened, that right there was a sign that things are turning around.   And when I saw people inside of Rockys fixing the place up, that lead me to believe, yes Sosua is slowly opening back up.    The main problem?   Not enough customer representation at the moment to sustain many of these businesses.     The ones that were opened long before,  did not have any competition.   But now,  it's going to be difficult unless more people come to vacation here.   

During the lockdown or slow down, what that did for many expats is make them more inclined to buy their own food and drink and eat at home more, rather than go out and spend money they didnt have to.

Thanks! Appeciate the info..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 29, 2020, 11:37:50 AM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.

Or maybe she doesn't want to pay to go in Ahnvee and risk not getting a customer.  She rather save the 500 and pick up a dude outside Ahnvee or on the strip. It's more than one way to skin a cat...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: RainmkrNY on October 29, 2020, 02:34:37 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.

Or maybe she doesn't want to pay to go in Ahnvee and risk not getting a customer.  She rather save the 500 and pick up a dude outside Ahnvee or on the strip. It's more than one way to skin a cat...

BINGO!! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.  That is a more feasible reason.  Risk vs Reward factor.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 29, 2020, 02:41:16 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.

Or maybe she doesn't want to pay to go in Ahnvee and risk not getting a customer.  She rather save the 500 and pick up a dude outside Ahnvee or on the strip. It's more than one way to skin a cat...

BINGO!! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.  That is a more feasible reason.  Risk vs Reward factor.

That definitely was part of the reason. When you factor in público and perhaps a moto to get to the público it might easily amount to 800 pesos for a chick from POP to Ahnvee and entrance. If guys are only willing to pay 2500 pesos ST the chick is only clearing about 1700 pesos.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: RainmkrNY on October 29, 2020, 02:46:38 PM
Just left there,,,,,if you go in most restaurants (Kings)or Anhvee..etc,,you have to wear a mask when you are walking around, once you take a seat you can take your mask off.

Day spot will be the beach and Baileys..early evening its Baileys and Kings..at night Anhvee.

You kind of have to hit all locations cause there are chicas that only go Baileys, only go to Kings, or go to Anhvee and then you have the chicas that post up at certain hotels..
Like at my hotel the same 4 or 5 chicas  posted up there every evening.

I was just there too and can confirm that the above is 100% correct.  Some girls will not go to Ahnvee due to the 500p entrance fee.  Too expensive and risky for them if they dont catch a customer.

One of my POP regulars was like no way will I pay 500 pesos and have to put up with the type of guys that are there. Now for the “she’s just a whore” mindset, yes she sells pussy yet nonetheless she doesn’t want to debase herself further to make money servicing some of you guys.

Or maybe she doesn't want to pay to go in Ahnvee and risk not getting a customer.  She rather save the 500 and pick up a dude outside Ahnvee or on the strip. It's more than one way to skin a cat...

BINGO!! Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.  That is a more feasible reason.  Risk vs Reward factor.

They definitely was part of the reason. When you factor in público and perhaps a moto to get to the público it might easily amount to 800 pesos for a chick from POP to Ahnvee and entrance. If guys are only willing to pay 2500 pesos ST the chick is only clearing about 1700 pesos.

Yeah IMO, Ahnvee made a bad move by charging the chicas to get into Ahnvee.  I was there this past Saturday night around 11:30PM and it was beyond dead.  I understand the capacity issue but IMO chicas should get in for free or at a discounted rate, cuz the more chicas around, the more guys gonna show up to spend pesos. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on October 29, 2020, 03:16:20 PM
There is one other reason some chicas do not go to Anhvee, becasue it's mostly young black men. It is not about prejudice,( two out three of my regulars are Haitian) it's about attitude. They do not like the brash, in your face bravado that many men there have, so they stay away.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on October 29, 2020, 03:40:08 PM
Most guys on here do not know that there are more semi-pros out there than pros. Once you tap into the women that have regular jobs, they will tell their friends. If you are a decent guy the word gets around, if some time they can not meet you when you want, they will refer a friend(with photos). You do not need hunt in the clubs.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 29, 2020, 10:14:04 PM
Facts!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Traveling on October 29, 2020, 10:56:42 PM
LMAO, are y'all serious! These chicas are hoes selling pussy and they don't give shit if you're a young black man. If your wallet is full of pesos to spend on them, then you can get all the pussy you want. It's not rocket science!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2020, 09:32:42 AM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.     

That may not be the case up in Ahnvee or Kings for example.   Some Haitianas already feel the vibe of not being wanted in there.   Dominican chicas definitely dont want them co mingling.   Years ago, a lot of Haitianas were intentionally barred from going in places like Rumba, Clasico and Merengue.   Those sentiments are still alive to a certain degree.   

Thats why Haitianas always managed to ply their trade, working around those inconveniences of where they felt they were not wanted.     Bar central,German rest, small bars in town, certain spots on the beach all welcome Haitian women.    The reason why some Haitian chicks dont get more business from brothers, is because enough Haitians assume wrongly that brothers dont want them. 

So enough Haitian women dont smile, dont flirt with brothers.  They dont make eye contact.    But there are other reasons.  Black dudes are less inclined to have a Haitian chica and all of her friends sitting at his table paying for everybody she brought to eat and drink off of a dude.    Go to the beach to where a lot of white guys set up. 

If there are Haitian women there,  you may find two or more of her friends there.   All eating and drinking off of that dude who is happy to be doing it.   The dude may only be f--king only one of them.     Aint likely any Haitian women are going to find any brothers doing that for any women up in Ahnvee.    Definitely not a whole group of Haitian women. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 30, 2020, 11:02:57 AM
Haitianas drift to white guys because they think brothers don’t find them attractive. Numerous haitianas have given me grief claiming that I didn’t like women who share my skin color. Got to the point I wouldn’t go into City Life because I was always getting hassled. In my experience they’re very attracted to dark skinned brothers. I’ve had way more haitiana stalker types than dominicanas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mp3 on October 30, 2020, 11:31:33 AM
I think it's the other way around, I think it's the white men that seek out the Haitians.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: SpanishBlaze on October 30, 2020, 02:46:26 PM
Haitian chicas I met told me African American men are not interested in them. They prefer the lighter skin Dominicans with straight here.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 30, 2020, 03:04:14 PM
Haitian chicas I met told me African American men are not interested in them. They prefer the lighter skin Dominicans with straight here.
I've heard it more than once. However it doesn't stop them from getting with anyone who expresses interest in them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2020, 03:50:20 PM
I think it's the other way around, I think it's the white men that seek out the Haitians.
I doubt that.   IMO, I dont see it as one way or the other.  What I see on the regular, is both perspectives operating concurrently.   There are WM that seek Haitians, and there are Haitians intentionally seeking WM as clients.   Ive seen Haitians specifically smile and stop to get the attention of WM.  And walk past black guys like they dont exist.   

On the street, at the beach, at certain venues where WM eat and drink.  When it comes to places like Bar Central, German Restaurant, etc, how do you suppose most of those Haitian women end up in those places?   The women intentionally go there to seek those men as clients.   As well as get free meals and drinks just for being there.    You dont see an abundance of Haitian women up in Kings.   And especially not no whole table full of them.    And you rarely will see a bunch of brothers buying a bunch of Haitian women food and drink.   

Now, before anybody gets it twisted.  Im not saying no Haitians are interested in a brothers business.  Money is money.  But it's glaringly obvious that enough ( enough means the amount it takes to notice that something exists ) Haitians prefer WM or seek WM as clients.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2020, 04:06:10 PM
Haitian chicas I met told me African American men are not interested in them. They prefer the lighter skin Dominicans with straight here.

Haitianas drift to white guys because they think brothers don’t find them attractive. Numerous haitianas have given me grief claiming that I didn’t like women who share my skin color. Got to the point I wouldn’t go into City Life because I was always getting hassled. In my experience they’re very attracted to dark skinned brothers. I’ve had way more haitiana stalker types than dominicanas.
The thing is,  we have all experienced Haitian chicas with that mindset.  Or they at least claimed to believe that.  And on the other hand.  Many of us have experienced Haitian women who did not have that hangup at all.   2 of my regulars are Haitian, and they've taken care of me for over 5 yrs.   I also knew them to have white guy clients too.   They tried to be undercover about it.  But I knew they had no problem with black or white.   

I see brothers with Haitian women all over the place.  It's just that every now and then you see a conservative segment of Haitian women that seem to mostly stick to or gravitate towards WM as clients.   

One interesting observation.  Many of the Haitian women that are above average in looks,  usually are in high demand by all men.   And those women will take full advantage of their looks to extract as much as they can from all of them.    Often expecting to get paid top dollar like the Dominican chicks.   Very often an above average Haitian chick already has got several dudes on her WU payroll.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2020, 04:41:37 PM
Friday October 30 2020

A day at the beach was packed with chicas and male tourists.   Most people were set up in the open area by #64 Jorge Mayra, Joselito, #74 Mofongo King and others.   Not only on the sandy area where the chairs and tables are set up, but sitting right at those restaurants.   I was further down the beach going towards Los Charamicos,  but still groups of chicas strolled/patrolled down that way looking for clients.   It's funny.   They all pass by the area Im at, go about 50 yards more and turn right around to walk back. 

They dont even go anywhere near Big Mama's.   And just about where they stop is where most of the small restaurant/bars are where mostly white guys are posted up.  Mainly the Haitian women continue further to see if there is any work for them from the white dudes.  The Dominican chicks are looking for the dudes they think are going to be star struck and willing to pay their price.   

All in all,  a lot of dudes have hit the Su.   But still IMO,  the chicks outnumber the guys.   And Ive seen chicks come in all shapes and sizes.   So sad to see,  this one dude on the beach walking with a normal sized woman.  But this dude had to be about 450 lbs.   Could hardly walk.  He had a major growth of flesh on one of his legs.   Like a gigantic tumor.   And yet, he came to Sosua to enjoy his vacation just like anybody else.    I wonder how much he has to pay to get the job done?

I wish somebody could tell me,  are most of these chicks getting enough business for the time they spend here?   Or are many ending up disappointed.   A lot of dudes are collecting numbers.  But how many failed hookups are due to chicks turning guys off by claiming they want $150.   

Still at the beach.  A buddy of mine stopped a chick that he thought was cute, and she was.   After a brief convo, she stoically told him she wanted 3000 for an hour.   With that,  he wasnt feeling her vibe nor what she expected to get paid.   I think he was just in flirt mode, and wasnt fully expecting to hook up.     He stopped another chick who was much much nicer.   Friendly, with a nice smile.  That one gave off a nice vibe.  I was impressed with her as well.   That one he said he will follow up on.    He also said,  the chick that had the nicer vibe could probably get 3000 if the service is as good as her personality.   

Personally, I have always liked my hookups that were not time based.   I mean I understand ST has it's limits,  but Im not feeling a chick giving me a precise time frame like were in a casa or brothel.   "Look dude ( looking at her watch ) , you got one hour to make it happen, and thats 3000".    Take it or leave it?   I'll leave it.   Some of my best sessions were with chicks where the amount of time of the session was not an issue or discussed.   And going way back, in some instances even the price wasnt discussed.   Chicks gratefully and graciously accepted what you gave them.   And oft times I was reasonably generous in those instances.   However now, you have to be strategic with these muggs today.  Get shit straight, preferably in writing/text.   Cant take anything for granted.         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2020, 06:42:43 PM
October 30 cont.....

Today and yesterday passed by Bailee's and it was full of chicas, and guys.  But definitely plenty of chicas, many occupying their own tables, and some coupled up with clients.   

Old Bourbon Street spot has many aisles set up and already I see general merchandise is being stocked on the shelves.   I'm not seeing much patronage at Terra Linda restaurant.   

Was out last night driving around.   Chicas are definitely out there looking for work.  Motoconchos out in full force moving chicas around.  Chicas have that hungry look of desperation trying to score clients,  while at the same time acting like they are the ones in demand.   Where the rubber hits the road is the moment a guy expresses interest and makes moves to get a chicks attention.   Thats when it seems some chicks wrongly believe a guy showing interest is firmly caught on their bait hook.    Many of these chicks are a tad too sure of themselves and their presumed pussy power in this game.   

There are just too many options for guys in town.  Totally un necessary for any guy to be fretting over any one chick, just because she looks good to him.    With all of this competition in town,  some of these muggs have got to be undercutting other chicks so they can make some money.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on October 30, 2020, 07:27:36 PM
Sirs  If the chicas is not agreeing to your freak cheat sheet,meaning  BBFS CIA Ass worship and other freaky fun on to the Next  !  fotos too !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on October 31, 2020, 07:42:46 AM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.

I want to provide some further insight on the dynamic between Haitianas and Black clients from an observational perspective, and additionally, based on what I’ve been told by others.

Haitianas, in many instances, can look very much like American Black women. Even more so than Dominicanas, and many Black men who have dated Black women all of their lives (albeit, not exclusively, but mostly), just want to try something different when they visit DR. This is not to say that Dominican women don’t look like American Black women themselves, but there are some subtle and not so subtle differences.

Also, the Haitianas are part of a largely marginalized community in the DR. Therefore, they don’t have all of the same access to resources, money, opportunities, etc., and this affects their appearance. Many of the Haitianas I’ve seen, in my opinion, look either broke down, or incredibly plain-Jane to the point that visually, they just don’t catch my eye when I’m on the island.

Lastly, to put everything in an even greater perspective, Black men visit DR to meet Dominican women, primarily. They don’t come seeking something else. If you like Colombians, you go to Colombia. If you like Vietnamese, you go to Vietnam, etc. It’s all about purpose and intention when you really break it down.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on October 31, 2020, 08:11:23 AM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.

I want to provide some further insight on the dynamic between Haitianas and Black clients from an observational perspective, and additionally, based on what I’ve been told by others.

Haitianas, in many instances, can look very much like American Black women. Even more so than Dominicanas, and many Black men who have dated Black women all of their lives (albeit, not exclusively, but mostly), just want to try something different when they visit DR. This is not to say that Dominican women don’t look like American Black women themselves, but there are some subtle and not so subtle differences.

Also, the Haitianas are part of a largely marginalized community in the DR. Therefore, they don’t have all of the same access to resources, money, opportunities, etc., and this affects their appearance. Many of the Haitianas I’ve seen, in my opinion, look either broke down, or incredibly plain-Jane to the point that visually, they just don’t catch my eye when I’m on the island.

Lastly, to put everything in an even greater perspective, Black men visit DR to meet Dominican women, primarily. They don’t come seeking something else. If you like Colombians, you go to Colombia. If you like Vietnamese, you go to Vietnam, etc. It’s all about purpose and intention when you really break it down.

I think many Haitian and Dominican women alike are starting to look more like American women. Back in the days, most of the Haitian women were proud to be fit, and slim with model-type bodies. Now, with the overexposure to American pop culture, many of them want the over-exaggerated looks of Nicki, Megan the Stallion , etc. To your other point, many Haitian wone think that we Black Americans don't like black women, as some of them expressed to me when surprised by being approached by me. Also, most Haitians are more conservative and reserved and give more of the GFE experience than Dominican women. A lot of them do gravitate to whites more, only because of the preconceived notion of getting more by doing less. Unfortunately, many of us AA men like to undercut to get more out of the deal with them and they know this. In fact, I hear many Haitian women say that black men only turn to them when they are short in money and cant afford the Dominicans. They feel we treat them with less respect because they are black and they often feel like second choice to Dominican women.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 08:47:47 AM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.

I want to provide some further insight on the dynamic between Haitianas and Black clients from an observational perspective, and additionally, based on what I’ve been told by others.

Haitianas, in many instances, can look very much like American Black women. Even more so than Dominicanas, and many Black men who have dated Black women all of their lives (albeit, not exclusively, but mostly), just want to try something different when they visit DR. This is not to say that Dominican women don’t look like American Black women themselves, but there are some subtle and not so subtle differences.

Also, the Haitianas are part of a largely marginalized community in the DR. Therefore, they don’t have all of the same access to resources, money, opportunities, etc., and this affects their appearance. Many of the Haitianas I’ve seen, in my opinion, look either broke down, or incredibly plain-Jane to the point that visually, they just don’t catch my eye when I’m on the island.

Lastly, to put everything in an even greater perspective, Black men visit DR to meet Dominican women, primarily. They don’t come seeking something else. If you like Colombians, you go to Colombia. If you like Vietnamese, you go to Vietnam, etc. It’s all about purpose and intention when you really break it down.
A fair assessment IMO.   Some things I would add since this a big puzzle :  In some instances enough men ( black , white or other ) have been attracted to and approached Haitian women , not realizing they werent Dominican.  Or just didnt know one way or the other.    How many times have I and enough men I talked to,   discussed how we couldnt tell if a particular chick was Haitian?

It's happened a lot.  Moreover, in some cases when I found out that a chick I was scoping on was Haitian, I was even more interested.  Why?  Because after some time being here,  I have experienced that many Haitian women have a more easy going demeanor than many Dominican women.   Have been known to cause less drama.   Have less propensity to scam a dude involving the police. 

Seem more grateful and appreciative for what you give them. And no doubt I have known many of them to agree to a price that I thought was fair to both of us,  which made me feel good about offering a propina after they gave me decent service.    Whereas enough DR women can be just the opposite, and inspire me to be less inclined to offer a propina.     

And you are right, that BM ( all men ) tend to come to the DR for Dominican women.   However, as long as Haitian women were here,  they too became sought after ( even exclusively by some men ) as well.   Because many Haitian women are  attractive, from a mind, body and spirit aspect and enough of them do fashion themselves and look like enough Dominican women.   We should also consider, that , many women we would think are Haitians have both Dominican and Haitian parents.   And if you ask some of them if they are Haitian,  they might deny any connection, and say they are Dominican.     

   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 09:21:49 AM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.

I want to provide some further insight on the dynamic between Haitianas and Black clients from an observational perspective, and additionally, based on what I’ve been told by others.

Haitianas, in many instances, can look very much like American Black women. Even more so than Dominicanas, and many Black men who have dated Black women all of their lives (albeit, not exclusively, but mostly), just want to try something different when they visit DR. This is not to say that Dominican women don’t look like American Black women themselves, but there are some subtle and not so subtle differences.

Also, the Haitianas are part of a largely marginalized community in the DR. Therefore, they don’t have all of the same access to resources, money, opportunities, etc., and this affects their appearance. Many of the Haitianas I’ve seen, in my opinion, look either broke down, or incredibly plain-Jane to the point that visually, they just don’t catch my eye when I’m on the island.

Lastly, to put everything in an even greater perspective, Black men visit DR to meet Dominican women, primarily. They don’t come seeking something else. If you like Colombians, you go to Colombia. If you like Vietnamese, you go to Vietnam, etc. It’s all about purpose and intention when you really break it down.

I think many Haitian and Dominican women alike are starting to look more like American women. Back in the days, most of the Haitian women were proud to be fit, and slim with model-type bodies. Now, with the overexposure to American pop culture, many of them want the over-exaggerated looks of Nicki, Megan the Stallion , etc. To your other point, many Haitian wone think that we Black Americans don't like black women, as some of them expressed to me when surprised by being approached by me. Also, most Haitians are more conservative and reserved and give more of the GFE experience than Dominican women. A lot of them do gravitate to whites more, only because of the preconceived notion of getting more by doing less. Unfortunately, many of us AA men like to undercut to get more out of the deal with them and they know this. In fact, I hear many Haitian women say that black men only turn to them when they are short in money and cant afford the Dominicans. They feel we treat them with less respect because they are black and they often feel like second choice to Dominican women.
Another fair assessment.   Interesting statement though regarding AA men supposedly undercutting to get more out of the deal with Haitians.  I look at it a different way.   AA men arent undercutting.  The prices enough Haitians are willing to go with is usually fair based on the economy.   

If anything,  AA men have a strong case for being overly gringo taxed by Dominican women for a service that should reflect the economy they are in.    Were not in Vegas, this isnt Back page.  This isnt some strip club in ATL or Miami.     It's foreigners that have accepted the price terms by many of these DR chicks.  Even got some Haitian women getting in on the act.   Thats one of the biggest problems.

If you go to Thailand or the Philippines as an example.   The p4p game prices in those countries do not reflect the prices guys pay in western culture.   The prices are somewhat reasonable in fixed venues, and when dealing with freelance chicks.   In some cases in those Asian countries,  discussing price is a lot easier than in the DR.   And in some instances discussion of prices and services is not necessary depending on the girl and situation.   

But here in the DR foreigners have contributed to allowing themselves to be fleeced by the women here.   The foreigners come with so many issues that play into it.   Ugly, fat & sloppy dudes, bad marriages/relationships, getting no love from the women where they come from, low self esteem, trying to live out expensive fantasies,   the list is extensive.   

And then of course enough come here with the mindset that the high prices expected or demanded is still cheaper than where they came from.   So after that,  the high prices women in the DR are seeking,  enough dudes feel it's justified and even fair.   You pay more for less.  And thats why enough men black, white or other will seek out Haitian women and pay them what really amounts to being fair to all parties based on the economy.   Not some DR chicks super inflated fallacious value.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 10:23:50 AM
A quick thought entered my mind regarding what some men may observe dealing with some Haitian women.  A lot of the Haitian women that come to Sosua, they usually live nearby in some of the neighboring communities. 

And when they come here,  oft times their Haitian male friends, boyfriends or associates are sometimes close by or in the vicinity.  Haitian women tend to use Haitian motoconchos.  And sometimes the Haitian motoconcho is familiar and/or directly connected to the chick.   He drops her off at some dudes house, and in some instances the Haitian motoconcho is paying attention to the guy she is going to see.  If you pay attention, a lot of chicks will tell the driver to stop short of the front door.   DR women do the same thing.   Sometimes it's because they are connected to the driver as well.   

Point being,  sometimes one can feel with many of the Haitian women the presence of Haitian men nearby watching over them.   Many of the Dominican chicks may connect with Dominican men, but for the most part a lot of DR women come to Sosua from far and wide solo or with other women to work.    Mainly a small % of DR women have Dominican men they are connected to, driving them to meet clients.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 31, 2020, 12:02:23 PM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.

I want to provide some further insight on the dynamic between Haitianas and Black clients from an observational perspective, and additionally, based on what I’ve been told by others.

Haitianas, in many instances, can look very much like American Black women. Even more so than Dominicanas, and many Black men who have dated Black women all of their lives (albeit, not exclusively, but mostly), just want to try something different when they visit DR. This is not to say that Dominican women don’t look like American Black women themselves, but there are some subtle and not so subtle differences.

Also, the Haitianas are part of a largely marginalized community in the DR. Therefore, they don’t have all of the same access to resources, money, opportunities, etc., and this affects their appearance. Many of the Haitianas I’ve seen, in my opinion, look either broke down, or incredibly plain-Jane to the point that visually, they just don’t catch my eye when I’m on the island.

Lastly, to put everything in an even greater perspective, Black men visit DR to meet Dominican women, primarily. They don’t come seeking something else. If you like Colombians, you go to Colombia. If you like Vietnamese, you go to Vietnam, etc. It’s all about purpose and intention when you really break it down.

I think many Haitian and Dominican women alike are starting to look more like American women. Back in the days, most of the Haitian women were proud to be fit, and slim with model-type bodies. Now, with the overexposure to American pop culture, many of them want the over-exaggerated looks of Nicki, Megan the Stallion , etc. To your other point, many Haitian wone think that we Black Americans don't like black women, as some of them expressed to me when surprised by being approached by me. Also, most Haitians are more conservative and reserved and give more of the GFE experience than Dominican women. A lot of them do gravitate to whites more, only because of the preconceived notion of getting more by doing less. Unfortunately, many of us AA men like to undercut to get more out of the deal with them and they know this. In fact, I hear many Haitian women say that black men only turn to them when they are short in money and cant afford the Dominicans. They feel we treat them with less respect because they are black and they often feel like second choice to Dominican women.

I've been looking for this reply and you sir are spot on! First off alot of AA men are COLORSTRUCK. It has nothing to do with it being that men travel to DR to meet Dominican women...bullshit. If it were Venezuelan, Russian,Colombian, Thai or Brazilian chicks there They would be all over them too. Same dudes would bypass a chocolate sister in the states for those same chicks also.

 Bottom line you can tell the type of dudes someone is when you see em in the DR. If a brother getting with sisters n others back home then he will do so in the DR also. If a brother only getting chocolate sisters when the club bout to close or as last resort he will do the same with Haitians in the DR. I for one think sexy is SEXY and my dick determines who my next smash will be (light or dark), not COLORSTRUCK gringos.....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 31, 2020, 01:24:04 PM
A quick thought entered my mind regarding what some men may observe dealing with some Haitian women.  A lot of the Haitian women that come to Sosua, they usually live nearby in some of the neighboring communities. 

And when they come here,  oft times their Haitian male friends, boyfriends or associates are sometimes close by or in the vicinity.  Haitian women tend to use Haitian motoconchos.  And sometimes the Haitian motoconcho is familiar and/or directly connected to the chick.   He drops her off at some dudes house, and in some instances the Haitian motoconcho is paying attention to the guy she is going to see.  If you pay attention, a lot of chicks will tell the driver to stop short of the front door.   DR women do the same thing.   Sometimes it's because they are connected to the driver as well.   

Point being,  sometimes one can feel with many of the Haitian women the presence of Haitian men nearby watching over them.   Many of the Dominican chicks may connect with Dominican men, but for the most part a lot of DR women come to Sosua from far and wide solo or with other women to work.    Mainly a small % of DR women have Dominican men they are connected to, driving them to meet clients.

I'm not trying to be funny or anything but are you crazy...How old are the females that are coming to see you..where are you staying..you never picked up a female and took her with you...I would assume most would only get a call or text from the female saying "i'm here" when they reach the hotel/villa,etc. ..sounds like you're dealing with underage or you plan on doing something crazy, worrying about how they got there..

Apologizes in advance if I misunderstood your post. I'll delete if it offends, no problem

There may be completely innocent factors, such as the location of his place, that produces the phenomena Murano wrote about. My experience is that my guests are dropped  off at the gate of the place I stay. For what ever reason the chicks that I deal with seem to prefer using the older more experienced moto drivers.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: NotANoob on October 31, 2020, 02:25:04 PM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.     

That may not be the case up in Ahnvee or Kings for example.   Some Haitianas already feel the vibe of not being wanted in there.   Dominican chicas definitely dont want them co mingling.   Years ago, a lot of Haitianas were intentionally barred from going in places like Rumba, Clasico and Merengue.   Those sentiments are still alive to a certain degree.   

Thats why Haitianas always managed to ply their trade, working around those inconveniences of where they felt they were not wanted.     Bar central,German rest, small bars in town, certain spots on the beach all welcome Haitian women.    The reason why some Haitian chicks dont get more business from brothers, is because enough Haitians assume wrongly that brothers dont want them. 

So enough Haitian women dont smile, dont flirt with brothers.  They dont make eye contact.    But there are other reasons.  Black dudes are less inclined to have a Haitian chica and all of her friends sitting at his table paying for everybody she brought to eat and drink off of a dude.    Go to the beach to where a lot of white guys set up. 

If there are Haitian women there,  you may find two or more of her friends there.   All eating and drinking off of that dude who is happy to be doing it.   The dude may only be f--king only one of them.     Aint likely any Haitian women are going to find any brothers doing that for any women up in Ahnvee.    Definitely not a whole group of Haitian women.

Bravo....and on point. I enjoy reading your post.

There is the simple rule of getting in where you fit in and it makes sense for chicas to go to where they feel welcome and comfortable, especially if they have to pay to attend these places.

And Haitian chicas from historic experience in DR have felt more comfy with the the white clients not necessary because that's their natural preference but because they feel majority of the black clients don't fancy them as much as they fancy the Dominican chics....

I remember once taking this fine Haitian chic right in front of many Dominican chics at Classico...and the whole time this Hatian chic was with me, she couldn't believe I picked her over those girls....took her to my room to complete the deed and she gave me one of the best submissive/engaging performances I have gotten down there....she's totally been conditioned to think and assume black men wouldn't role with hatianas like her over dominicanas!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: NotANoob on October 31, 2020, 02:37:44 PM
I think it's the other way around, I think it's the white men that seek out the Haitians.
I doubt that.   IMO, I dont see it as one way or the other.  What I see on the regular, is both perspectives operating concurrently.   There are WM that seek Haitians, and there are Haitians intentionally seeking WM as clients.   Ive seen Haitians specifically smile and stop to get the attention of WM.  And walk past black guys like they dont exist.   

On the street, at the beach, at certain venues where WM eat and drink.  When it comes to places like Bar Central, German Restaurant, etc, how do you suppose most of those Haitian women end up in those places?   The women intentionally go there to seek those men as clients.   As well as get free meals and drinks just for being there.    You dont see an abundance of Haitian women up in Kings.   And especially not no whole table full of them.    And you rarely will see a bunch of brothers buying a bunch of Haitian women food and drink.   

Now, before anybody gets it twisted.  Im not saying no Haitians are interested in a brothers business.  Money is money.  But it's glaringly obvious that enough ( enough means the amount it takes to notice that something exists ) Haitians prefer WM or seek WM as clients.

From an observation stand point, Haitian chics and White clients usually seek each other...kind of a meeting of the mind for various reasons.

Generally speaking, Haitian chicas are not rated as high as their DR counterparts by black men so they adjust and ply their trades white white men...however if the black men were to start showing mad love to them they would love that too....

Don't know if Haitians prefer WM but they do seek out WM because they believe the WM show them the most love that they don't usually get with the BM.

.....preference is a more complicated topic, what they prefer is shaped by factors beyond their control so they seek what they easily can get because the interest is mutual!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 02:45:38 PM
A quick thought entered my mind regarding what some men may observe dealing with some Haitian women.  A lot of the Haitian women that come to Sosua, they usually live nearby in some of the neighboring communities. 

And when they come here,  oft times their Haitian male friends, boyfriends or associates are sometimes close by or in the vicinity.  Haitian women tend to use Haitian motoconchos.  And sometimes the Haitian motoconcho is familiar and/or directly connected to the chick.   He drops her off at some dudes house, and in some instances the Haitian motoconcho is paying attention to the guy she is going to see.  If you pay attention, a lot of chicks will tell the driver to stop short of the front door.   DR women do the same thing.   Sometimes it's because they are connected to the driver as well.   

Point being,  sometimes one can feel with many of the Haitian women the presence of Haitian men nearby watching over them.   Many of the Dominican chicks may connect with Dominican men, but for the most part a lot of DR women come to Sosua from far and wide solo or with other women to work.    Mainly a small % of DR women have Dominican men they are connected to, driving them to meet clients.

I'm not trying to be funny or anything but are you crazy...How old are the females that are coming to see you..where are you staying..you never picked up a female and took her with you...I would assume most would only get a call or text from the female saying "i'm here" when they reach the hotel/villa,etc. ..sounds like you're dealing with underage or you plan on doing something crazy, worrying about how they got there..

Apologizes in advance if I misunderstood your post. I'll delete if it offends, no problem
Honestly, your post was not clear at all of what you understood or the point you were making from it.   But I'll bite.

1.  No , I'm not crazy
2. Age range of females in the 6 years of living here,  19 to 45 yrs.   
3. I live in an apt in Sosua that I started renting Oct 2013. 
4. Yes, I have picked up women and brought them home.  I also have chicks come directly to my spot. 
5.  Some chicks cant call when they arrive because they dont have wifi or minutes for calling.  So one may have to meet them at the entrance at the specified time expected.   
6.  What something sounds like to you based on something you obviously pulled out of thin air does not translate as anybodies reality. 
7. If you were paying attention and UNDERSTOOD what I was saying,  I made NO distinction that I was referring soley to my experience or observation ALONE.   But it's interesting how your focus was only on me, and totally ignored what I said may apply to other men observing the same thing I observed.   
8.  I dont want you to delete anything.   I would like to read an explanation from you of what you supposedly understood from my post?  Because your questions to me,  are not tied to any specific disagreement or conclusion.   If it is,  you have NOT made that clear what the issue is you are pointing out.   Could you please clarify what you wrote? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.     

That may not be the case up in Ahnvee or Kings for example.   Some Haitianas already feel the vibe of not being wanted in there.   Dominican chicas definitely dont want them co mingling.   Years ago, a lot of Haitianas were intentionally barred from going in places like Rumba, Clasico and Merengue.   Those sentiments are still alive to a certain degree.   

Thats why Haitianas always managed to ply their trade, working around those inconveniences of where they felt they were not wanted.     Bar central,German rest, small bars in town, certain spots on the beach all welcome Haitian women.    The reason why some Haitian chicks dont get more business from brothers, is because enough Haitians assume wrongly that brothers dont want them. 

So enough Haitian women dont smile, dont flirt with brothers.  They dont make eye contact.    But there are other reasons.  Black dudes are less inclined to have a Haitian chica and all of her friends sitting at his table paying for everybody she brought to eat and drink off of a dude.    Go to the beach to where a lot of white guys set up. 

If there are Haitian women there,  you may find two or more of her friends there.   All eating and drinking off of that dude who is happy to be doing it.   The dude may only be f--king only one of them.     Aint likely any Haitian women are going to find any brothers doing that for any women up in Ahnvee.    Definitely not a whole group of Haitian women.

Bravo....and on point. I enjoy reading your post.

There is the simple rule of getting in where you fit in and it makes sense for chicas to go to where they feel welcome and comfortable, especially if they have to pay to attend these places.

And Haitian chicas from historic experience in DR have felt more comfy with the the white clients not necessary because that's their natural preference but because they feel majority of the black clients don't fancy them as much as they fancy the Dominican chics....

I remember once taking this fine Haitian chic right in front of many Dominican chics at Classico...and the whole time this Hatian chic was with me, she couldn't believe I picked her over those girls....took her to my room to complete the deed and she gave me one of the best submissive/engaging performances I have gotten down there....she's totally been conditioned to think and assume black men wouldn't role with hatianas like her over dominicanas!
Like wise I have my experiences as well with a few haitianas.   One I remember all too well.   This is yrs ago.  I was sitting up in Rumba one late afternoon with a couple of tables nearby with Dominican chicks sitting nearby.   They were flirting somewhat.   

But I wasnt ready to pull the trigger.   At some point this very attractive chick comes in and goes straight for the rest room.   She was dressed in a very classy blouse and dressy slacks.   She was glowing.   When she came out,  I made it my business to catch her before she left.   But she actually sat down a few tables away.   I went to her table and made my move.   The looks we were getting from the Dominican chicks had venom all in their eyes.  For me, and the chick.   

Like you, had a great time with her.   And she became a regular for a few months.   Now I cant say this chick was surprised that I chose her over the Dominican chicks.  The way this chick looked in her clothes, and the air of confidence she exuded , She knew she was getting picked up.  What she probably didnt know is that it was going to happen within seconds or minutes of entering Rumba's.   

TBH though,  I have had that same experience snagging a Dominican chick upon 1st glance ( she could pass for Haitian ).   I remember that chick too.  She had a nice round ass and was wearing tight white pants.  I damn near ran across the street where she was standing in front of Rumba's before someone else grabbed her.   Back then if you moved too slow,  you missed your turn.    That chick ended up being a regular.   She came back to Sosua 2 times for my vacation,  then after that,  we did our thing in Santo Domingo.    That chick was probably shocked for different reasons.   It was her 1st time in Sosua.  And she didnt have time to get a feel for the scene before somebody snatched her up.    I was staying at Sosua Suites back then.   

I will say this though.   After awhile every woman tends to have a story or some issues that come as part of the package.   And as I eventually learned, it goes with the territory.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 03:41:55 PM
I think it's the other way around, I think it's the white men that seek out the Haitians.
I doubt that.   IMO, I dont see it as one way or the other.  What I see on the regular, is both perspectives operating concurrently.   There are WM that seek Haitians, and there are Haitians intentionally seeking WM as clients.   Ive seen Haitians specifically smile and stop to get the attention of WM.  And walk past black guys like they dont exist.   

On the street, at the beach, at certain venues where WM eat and drink.  When it comes to places like Bar Central, German Restaurant, etc, how do you suppose most of those Haitian women end up in those places?   The women intentionally go there to seek those men as clients.   As well as get free meals and drinks just for being there.    You dont see an abundance of Haitian women up in Kings.   And especially not no whole table full of them.    And you rarely will see a bunch of brothers buying a bunch of Haitian women food and drink.   

Now, before anybody gets it twisted.  Im not saying no Haitians are interested in a brothers business.  Money is money.  But it's glaringly obvious that enough ( enough means the amount it takes to notice that something exists ) Haitians prefer WM or seek WM as clients.

From an observation stand point, Haitian chics and White clients usually seek each other...kind of a meeting of the mind for various reasons.

Generally speaking, Haitian chicas are not rated as high as their DR counterparts by black men so they adjust and ply their trades white white men...however if the black men were to start showing mad love to them they would love that too....

Don't know if Haitians prefer WM but they do seek out WM because they believe the WM show them the most love that they don't usually get with the BM.

.....preference is a more complicated topic, what they prefer is shaped by factors beyond their control so they seek what they easily can get because the interest is mutual!!
Here's the thing about BM showing Haitiana's mad love.  If mad love ( from the haitian womans perspective ) is partly about brothers allowing Haitian chicks sitting nearby to offer them food and drink,  that is not likely to happen.   For the most part,  many mongers learn that doing that may be perceived as a sign of weakness and/or unappreciated and taken for granted.   

And I have to say,  when enough WM do that,  enough of them dont seem to care about being perceived as weak by the women they do that for.   It appears that they get off doing that.  And it seems enough Haitian women have caught on that that is how some WM go about luring women leading up to potentially hiring them.    In fact what some Haitian chicks do,  is hang in the vicinity of WM for the main purpose of getting fed and hydrated for free, putting on an act of enjoying the guys company but may have no intention of f--king the guy.   In other words,  some Haitian chicks hang around WM ( or any suckers ) like hungry cats meowing.   Once fed and hydrated,  they're ghost.     Unless the guy gets lucky of course.   

Back to the mad love from BM.   I believe there are a lot of BM showing love towards Haitian women.   It's just that it's not necessarily manifested the same way as other men.  Meaning the way some BM interact with Haitian women doesnt necessarily involve leading with their wallets.   It's more common to see BM pay after services are rendered.   A BM or any man can choose how he wishes to entertain his female company.   

With food and drink in the house,  ordering a pizza for delivery,  or picking up food along the way before they hit the spot.   Ive done them all.   But as an expat and a vet I avoid having chicas sitting with me dining at my expense.   I collect numbers, and contact them later.    A worthy chick,  Haitian or Dominican  I would take to Cabarete and treat them like a regular date.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 31, 2020, 04:12:39 PM


And here I thought dinner whoring was a U.S. phenomenon...
Nope.  And TBH, Dominican women are no different when it comes to hoping and angling to get men nearby to pay for their food and drink.   It's just that they are usually less obvious.  More often than not,  men dont disappoint once they make eye contact with chicks posting up.   An offer to buy a chick a drink is usually the least a chick may get from a flirt.   Full meals?   Not likely.   Depends on the sucker, I mean man.   I must say though,  some chicks can inspire some dudes to roll out the red carpet for a chick they deem extra special.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on October 31, 2020, 08:04:00 PM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.     

That may not be the case up in Ahnvee or Kings for example.   Some Haitianas already feel the vibe of not being wanted in there.   Dominican chicas definitely dont want them co mingling.   Years ago, a lot of Haitianas were intentionally barred from going in places like Rumba, Clasico and Merengue.   Those sentiments are still alive to a certain degree.   

Thats why Haitianas always managed to ply their trade, working around those inconveniences of where they felt they were not wanted.     Bar central,German rest, small bars in town, certain spots on the beach all welcome Haitian women.    The reason why some Haitian chicks dont get more business from brothers, is because enough Haitians assume wrongly that brothers dont want them. 

So enough Haitian women dont smile, dont flirt with brothers.  They dont make eye contact.    But there are other reasons.  Black dudes are less inclined to have a Haitian chica and all of her friends sitting at his table paying for everybody she brought to eat and drink off of a dude.    Go to the beach to where a lot of white guys set up. 

If there are Haitian women there,  you may find two or more of her friends there.   All eating and drinking off of that dude who is happy to be doing it.   The dude may only be f--king only one of them.     Aint likely any Haitian women are going to find any brothers doing that for any women up in Ahnvee.    Definitely not a whole group of Haitian women.

Bravo....and on point. I enjoy reading your post.

There is the simple rule of getting in where you fit in and it makes sense for chicas to go to where they feel welcome and comfortable, especially if they have to pay to attend these places.

And Haitian chicas from historic experience in DR have felt more comfy with the the white clients not necessary because that's their natural preference but because they feel majority of the black clients don't fancy them as much as they fancy the Dominican chics....

I remember once taking this fine Haitian chic right in front of many Dominican chics at Classico...and the whole time this Hatian chic was with me, she couldn't believe I picked her over those girls....took her to my room to complete the deed and she gave me one of the best submissive/engaging performances I have gotten down there....she's totally been conditioned to think and assume black men wouldn't role with hatianas like her over dominicanas!

All facts bro. This is what I was saying earlier. I had one mean mug mean and I gave her a slight smile and asked her what was wrong. She cracked a smile and said, "You don't like Haitian girls?" I said of course I do. I mainly go for Haitian women.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on October 31, 2020, 10:04:35 PM
My buddy says that he’s at Ahnvee tonight and hasn’t gotten a ST quote of less than $100. Looks like guys have successfully turned Ahnvee into Sportsman’s Lodge east.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on November 01, 2020, 01:49:35 AM
My buddy says that he’s at Ahnvee tonight and hasn’t gotten a ST quote of less than $100. Looks like guys have successfully turned Ahnvee into Sportsman’s Lodge east.

That's because it's Halloween night....one of the two biggest nights in Sosua.

Hoes are gonna overcharge.  There are prolly so many dudes there that she thinks she can easily get the amount she wants.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 01, 2020, 06:21:06 AM
Question.   Regarding some Haitian women.  Or those women that supposedly have a problem with black dudes at Ahnvee.    What places/venues do these women find suitable, and what kind of clients are usually there?   I ask this question, because many of the same guys that chicks are supposedly turned off to,  they also go to many other places in town.   So we know it's not the location they may have a problem with,  they have a preference for certain type of client.   

As far as enough Haitians are concerned,  it's no secret that enough Haitian chicks tend to seek out white clients over others, but will tolerate others and seek their business if it means getting paid.    That applies to some Dominican chicks as well.   

Observation.  Very often Haitian chicks walk down the beach and selectively seek the venues where white males are posted up.   A lot of them will walk past the open area or other areas where mostly black guys are,  but stop where most of the white guys set up.   On the strip,  many Haitianas are seen gravitating to Bar Central and the German restaurant next door.   And on Dr Rosen another bar that is now closed.

One thing needs to be taken into consideration.  There are many factors here.  Haitians preference in their type of clients, and their expectations from their clients.  Certain men tend to be easier for some women to manipulate.  Especially when it comes to long term financial supplementation.   And that is one reason why enough Haitianas may prefer other men, that arent black.   Certain men are not going to allow some chick to be connected to him like that.   Moreover, at Ahnvee, there arent that many white males to go around there.   

Additionally, Haitianas may not feel as welcome and sought after as the Dominicana's.   As much as guys be talking about rats on here.  A lot of Haitianas although attractive, maybe intelligent, a lot of them dont have the look that a lot of dudes are looking for that Dominican women have.   Just the differences in grooming, hair styles and clothing sets Haitians apart from Dominican chicks.   Certain guys that Haitians gravitate to, arent that picky about the Haitians hair, clothing or sense of style.  Just that she is nice.     

That may not be the case up in Ahnvee or Kings for example.   Some Haitianas already feel the vibe of not being wanted in there.   Dominican chicas definitely dont want them co mingling.   Years ago, a lot of Haitianas were intentionally barred from going in places like Rumba, Clasico and Merengue.   Those sentiments are still alive to a certain degree.   

Thats why Haitianas always managed to ply their trade, working around those inconveniences of where they felt they were not wanted.     Bar central,German rest, small bars in town, certain spots on the beach all welcome Haitian women.    The reason why some Haitian chicks dont get more business from brothers, is because enough Haitians assume wrongly that brothers dont want them. 

So enough Haitian women dont smile, dont flirt with brothers.  They dont make eye contact.    But there are other reasons.  Black dudes are less inclined to have a Haitian chica and all of her friends sitting at his table paying for everybody she brought to eat and drink off of a dude.    Go to the beach to where a lot of white guys set up. 

If there are Haitian women there,  you may find two or more of her friends there.   All eating and drinking off of that dude who is happy to be doing it.   The dude may only be f--king only one of them.     Aint likely any Haitian women are going to find any brothers doing that for any women up in Ahnvee.    Definitely not a whole group of Haitian women.

Bravo....and on point. I enjoy reading your post.

There is the simple rule of getting in where you fit in and it makes sense for chicas to go to where they feel welcome and comfortable, especially if they have to pay to attend these places.

And Haitian chicas from historic experience in DR have felt more comfy with the the white clients not necessary because that's their natural preference but because they feel majority of the black clients don't fancy them as much as they fancy the Dominican chics....

I remember once taking this fine Haitian chic right in front of many Dominican chics at Classico...and the whole time this Hatian chic was with me, she couldn't believe I picked her over those girls....took her to my room to complete the deed and she gave me one of the best submissive/engaging performances I have gotten down there....she's totally been conditioned to think and assume black men wouldn't role with hatianas like her over dominicanas!

All facts bro. This is what I was saying earlier. I had one mean mug mean and I gave her a slight smile and asked her what was wrong. She cracked a smile and said, "You don't like Haitian girls?" I said of course I do. I mainly go for Haitian women.
Bingo BlackGhost1, Thats all i go for   Even have a few good repeats on my roster that dont dissapoint !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 01, 2020, 06:42:28 AM

Bravo....and on point. I enjoy reading your post.

There is the simple rule of getting in where you fit in and it makes sense for chicas to go to where they feel welcome and comfortable, especially if they have to pay to attend these places.

And Haitian chicas from historic experience in DR have felt more comfy with the the white clients not necessary because that's their natural preference but because they feel majority of the black clients don't fancy them as much as they fancy the Dominican chics....

I remember once taking this fine Haitian chic right in front of many Dominican chics at Classico...and the whole time this Hatian chic was with me, she couldn't believe I picked her over those girls....took her to my room to complete the deed and she gave me one of the best submissive/engaging performances I have gotten down there....she's totally been conditioned to think and assume black men wouldn't role with hatianas like her over dominicanas!

All facts bro. This is what I was saying earlier. I had one mean mug mean and I gave her a slight smile and asked her what was wrong. She cracked a smile and said, "You don't like Haitian girls?" I said of course I do. I mainly go for Haitian women.
What you say about some mean mugging Haitian chicks is true.   Which goes to show.  A lot of us claim that too many of the locals are dumb when it comes to their business sense.   Poor customer service.  No concept of attracting repeat business.  Would rather focus on getting over in a transaction, rather than build a good reputation and secure referrals.  No concept of being on time and keeping ones word.   

Enough Haitian women come with their own set of shortcomings.   Many of their problems begin with making unfounded assumptions of how individuals or a group of people feel about them,  without any proof whatsoever.   And as women, instead of using charm, a nice smile, an approachable attitude to attract men/tricks/mongers,  they instead rely on men doing all of the pursuing.  In other words.   They expect a man to look past the mean mugging,  and pursue her until she lets her guard down.   Aint nobody got time for all of that.   Those types are just gonna have to settle for the ONLY men they feel that give a damn.

Give me , a sensible Haitian woman without the hangups and Im good.

True story regarding one of my Haitian regulars.  I met her on the strip.  But she wasnt who I was checking out 1st.  She was walking on PC with another Haitian chick.  That was the one I had my eye on.   She was passing me by El Flow,  I spoke to her and she kept her eyes glued to in front of her.   If Im not mistaken, she was probably going to Bar Central or the German restaurant with the other Haitian chica in tow.   

Anyway,  they ended up passing again, but this time the Haitian chick gave a look like "PLEASE, you arent what Im looking for".    At some point I saw them again.  And this time they were on the other side of the street.   The one I was trying to talk to was further ahead of the other chick.   The other Haitian's attitude was totally cool.   She was friendly, and IMO, I think she was tired of walking around with the other chick ( Ms. mentor ).  We took to each other rather quickly.   And I took her home.   She ended up being a regular. 

Guess what happened when the 1st Haitian chick saw her friend with me?   Yup all of a sudden she was interested.   The next time I saw the 1st Haitian chick, she was dropping all kinds of choose me signals.    Thats when I told her that she blew it with that f--ked up attitude and mean mugg when I tried to get her attention the 1st time.   She remembered that night.   And of course she broke out with a bunch of excuses, and how she wont be like that anymore. 

My attitude was one of indifference.   Im not going to turn down some pussy, but as far as I was concerned, she was done.    Her friends company and service exceeded my expectations.    I also came to realize that my new friend did not like walking the street searching for tricks.   She liked the more personable approach.   Occasionally going to City Lights or when open Rancho Tipico.  There she scored clients easily.   And I wasnt mad at her for that.   She was and is a good regular still to this day.    She definitely didnt need to be around that sour puss Haitian chick.   

After 5 yrs of being a regular.  This chick barely eats at my house, although I occasionally bring snacks home.  She used to drink Presidentes, but stopped drinking alcohol.  Doesnt beg, doesnt steal, gives no drama whatsoever.   Weve only discussed what I was going to give her twice.   The last 4 yrs,  I pay her with no complaints.  No stories, no requests, no deluging me with her problems.   For all I know, some other gentleman might be taking care of all of that ( Im aware of at least one guy a few years ago because I saw his picture, a handsome older white dude ),  and my contribution is just maintenance?    New good regulars are hard to find these days.   
 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 01, 2020, 07:25:25 AM
My buddy says that he’s at Ahnvee tonight and hasn’t gotten a ST quote of less than $100. Looks like guys have successfully turned Ahnvee into Sportsman’s Lodge east.

That's because it's Halloween night....one of the two biggest nights in Sosua.

Hoes are gonna overcharge.  There are prolly so many dudes there that she thinks she can easily get the amount she wants.
I agree with this.   This holiday is like a miniature version of Super Bowl week to these chicas.   

@Jazzy.   I dont know anything about your buddy, his mongering habits or his expectations.   But IMO maybe 95% of the women that post up in Ahnvee usually are at the beach earlier in the day, passing or stopping by Flip Flop on the way from the beach,  posting up at Kings before they go to Ahnvee, or can be easily flagged seeing them on a moto or getting on/off a moto. 

That applies to the women staying at Ahnvee as well as chicks that go to Ahnvee before curfew.   And recently, I saw about a dozen chicks sitting at tables/chairs in the beach parking lot where there is a bar there,  listening to Latin music.   

It just boggles my mind and maybe it's just me thinking as an expat now,  of why guys feel they have to start scoping out their talent up in one spot later in the evening.   I mean anybody with eyes can see that the same chicks that were at the beach earlier in the day are the same chicks up in Ahnvee.   All they did is change their clothes.    This same cluelessness goes on all over the world.

A certain segment of guys are just paralyzed in their thinking, and assume that they have to go to a specific place to get the same women that were in front of them all afternoon.    I see and talk to guys regularly about, how they are going to Ahnvee later to check out the talent.   

And Im saying WTF, the same chicks on the beach are mostly the same chicks you are going to see packed at Ahnvee.    Are mongers blind or stupid?   Why not get your talent at a better price before going to Ahnvee?   Then when you go to Ahnvee just go there to eat, drink, listen to music, watch sports and collect numbers?    Then when you are ready,  contact the chick you approached earlier and make it happen with the price you both agreed on earlier.   

But some cats rather wait to go to a specific place knowing there is a gringo markup on everything?  Makes absolutely no sense.   Too many people are walking around with that club,  bottle popping, look at me,  VIP mentality.   "Man we got to hit Miami in PP or Ahnvee"   "The biatches there are off the chain." 

"But you cant be rolling like you a cheap dude."  "You got to represent like you got it going on."      Meanwhile those same chicks up in any club or Ahnvee are the same chicks out and about where ever they are during the day.   And dudes be elevating these chicks value for no f--king reason,  except due to the f--ked up conditioning they got from where they came from.  In their minds, quality and talent is represented by how expensive ( expensive does not mean value, it means markup ) something is pumped up/inflated.  And if you aint willing to pay more for it,  you aint a "BOSS".    Sound familiar?       It is a good thing,  no a great thing that Asia is very far away.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mr Back Shot on November 01, 2020, 03:01:10 PM
And some of them don't even change clothes before prancing around at Ahnvee!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on November 01, 2020, 08:37:58 PM
My buddy says that he’s at Ahnvee tonight and hasn’t gotten a ST quote of less than $100. Looks like guys have successfully turned Ahnvee into Sportsman’s Lodge east.

That's because it's Halloween night....one of the two biggest nights in Sosua.

Hoes are gonna overcharge.  There are prolly so many dudes there that she thinks she can easily get the amount she wants.
I agree with this.   This holiday is like a miniature version of Super Bowl week to these chicas.   

@Jazzy.   I dont know anything about your buddy, his mongering habits or his expectations.   But IMO maybe 95% of the women that post up in Ahnvee usually are at the beach earlier in the day, passing or stopping by Flip Flop on the way from the beach,  posting up at Kings before they go to Ahnvee, or can be easily flagged seeing them on a moto or getting on/off a moto. 

That applies to the women staying at Ahnvee as well as chicks that go to Ahnvee before curfew.   And recently, I saw about a dozen chicks sitting at tables/chairs in the beach parking lot where there is a bar there,  listening to Latin music.   

It just boggles my mind and maybe it's just me thinking as an expat now,  of why guys feel they have to start scoping out their talent up in one spot later in the evening.   I mean anybody with eyes can see that the same chicks that were at the beach earlier in the day are the same chicks up in Ahnvee.   All they did is change their clothes.    This same cluelessness goes on all over the world.

A certain segment of guys are just paralyzed in their thinking, and assume that they have to go to a specific place to get the same women that were in front of them all afternoon.    I see and talk to guys regularly about, how they are going to Ahnvee later to check out the talent.   

And Im saying WTF, the same chicks on the beach are mostly the same chicks you are going to see packed at Ahnvee.    Are mongers blind or stupid?   Why not get your talent at a better price before going to Ahnvee?   Then when you go to Ahnvee just go there to eat, drink, listen to music, watch sports and collect numbers?    Then when you are ready,  contact the chick you approached earlier and make it happen with the price you both agreed on earlier.   

But some cats rather wait to go to a specific place knowing there is a gringo markup on everything?  Makes absolutely no sense.   Too many people are walking around with that club,  bottle popping, look at me,  VIP mentality.   "Man we got to hit Miami in PP or Ahnvee"   "The biatches there are off the chain." 

"But you cant be rolling like you a cheap dude."  "You got to represent like you got it going on."      Meanwhile those same chicks up in any club or Ahnvee are the same chicks out and about where ever they are during the day.   And dudes be elevating these chicks value for no f--king reason,  except due to the f--ked up conditioning they got from where they came from.  In their minds, quality and talent is represented by how expensive ( expensive does not mean value, it means markup ) something is pumped up/inflated.  And if you aint willing to pay more for it,  you aint a "BOSS".    Sound familiar?       It is a good thing,  no a great thing that Asia is very far away.
Indeed. The "dress up" gets may cats allured and they "believe" its someone else. If I don't who you are when I meet you, Im going to be surprised when I greet you!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 04, 2020, 03:49:46 PM
Wednesday November 4, 2020

Passed by the new location under construction on PC ( between the German Rest and El Flow ).    It looks like the interior construction is complete.  There are many isles in the store.  And many shelves stocked with clothes and general merchandise.    There is also a 2nd tier where you can see more clothes out on display.   

This place could very well be open to the public within 2 to 3 weeks,  if that long.   

As the new president ordered,  Route 5 ( Ruta 5 Autopista ) is being outfitted with new street lamps all along the highway.   From PP to possibly Sabaneta.   1st they are installing the concrete pillars, and eventually the street lamps, then the power lines to those lamps.    If I'm not mistaken,  I could have sworn that I saw some street lamp posts with solar panels.   This was in the area of Seahorse Ranch going towards Cabarete.   Those lamp posts were there weeks or months ago.     

In some sections of highway between PP and Sosua,  the lights are already in place and working.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 05, 2020, 06:32:37 PM
https://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=34030 (https://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=34030)

PUERTO PLATA. -  Great regret has caused in the municipality of Sosúa the death of a well-known young woman in that town, who suffered from cancer.

The deceased responded to the name of Mélida Bonilla (Milka), who sadly lost the battle for life, after a terminal cancer was detected.

Bonilla leaves a girl barely one year and 6 months old as an orphan, for which her death has left her family mired in pain and sadness.


For those who may not know or remember Milka.  Milka was the wife of Rick from Rocky's Rock & Blues Bar and Hotel in Sosua.    They had a baby girl.    Dont know Ricks whereabouts these days, saw him last year sometime.   Some of Milka's family live near the old Mary Rose Hotel on Alejo Martinez.    Back in the day,  when you walked into Rocky's one of the 1st things you saw there ,  was a big ass picture of Milka on the wall welcoming you to Rocky's.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on November 05, 2020, 08:55:14 PM
https://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=34030 (https://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=34030)

PUERTO PLATA. -  Great regret has caused in the municipality of Sosúa the death of a well-known young woman in that town, who suffered from cancer.

The deceased responded to the name of Mélida Bonilla (Milka), who sadly lost the battle for life, after a terminal cancer was detected.

Bonilla leaves a girl barely one year and 6 months old as an orphan, for which her death has left her family mired in pain and sadness.


For those who may not know or remember Milka.  Milka was the wife of Rick from Rocky's Rock & Blues Bar and Hotel in Sosua.    They had a baby girl.    Dont know Ricks whereabouts these days, saw him last year sometime.   Some of Milka's family live near the old Mary Rose Hotel on Alejo Martinez.    Back in the day,  when you walked into Rocky's one of the 1st things you saw there ,  was a big ass picture of Milka on the wall welcoming you to Rocky's.   

Oh man. Milka passed. f--k. RIP.  She was a heavy smoker too. I gotta contact Rick and his sister in law, Ruth. Damn. This hit me heavy smh. I spoke to Rick in February, right before Covid hit. He was saying that he was planning to close Rockys in April cause business wasnt looking to well. I think he either sold it to someone or was co-owning it at this point.  I felt bad for him He looked really sad. Milka ran Mary Rose Hotel as well. I stayed there once or twice. Im practically cool with with their whole family.  All of her nieces are bad af too.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 10, 2020, 10:18:24 AM
In two days the standing curfew is supposed to be expired.   But the DR has not yet ( at least from my limited sources I've found ) claimed that they will extend the curfew after the 12th of this month.   Instead there is information online that :

The Government has no plans to eliminate curfew on Christmas and New Years. 

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2020/11/07/the-government-has-no-plans-to-eliminate-curfew-on-christmas-and-new-years/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2020/11/07/the-government-has-no-plans-to-eliminate-curfew-on-christmas-and-new-years/)

"The government is not contemplating eliminating the curfew and other restrictive measures to control the coronavirus for Black Friday and the Christmas and New Year holidays.

The President of the Republic said that good measures had been taken to control the spread of COVID-19 in the country and noted that there was a resurgence of infections in countries where there was a total opening of the economy and activities.

Although he stressed that the final decision would be taken by the technicians and the health cabinet led by Vice President Raquel Peña, he said that the gradual relaxation of the state of emergency measures had allowed the control of COVID-19.

“So far, this gradualness has given results to the country. If you look at other countries that have opened up completely, there has been a resurgence that we don’t want in the Dominican Republic,” she said after the Council of Ministers’ session in San Cristóbal where she announced an investment of more than 2 billion pesos in infrastructure works, schools, hospitals, and museums."


My thoughts.   Although this article talks about the DR govt not eliminating the curfew for Black Friday, Christmas and New Year's, I find it to be confusing because it doesnt address whether or not the current curfew will be eliminated on the 12th of November.    So if the curfew did expire on the 12th,  is the govt alluding to ,  those holidays coming up they will institute a curfew just for those holidays?   

A previous article I shared was about this past Monday being a holiday,  and because it was a holiday the curfew started at 7pm instead of 9pm.   Additionally in the article, it confirmed that the current curfew will expire on the 12th of November.    So Im wondering if what is going to happen is that everytime there is a holiday,  a curfew will be implemented,  even if there is no general curfew in effect?     Time will tell.   The 12th is coming up soon, we'll see.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 10, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
The new clothing/general merchandise store on Pedro Clisante ( where Bourbon Street restaurant was ) is open for business and serving customers. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 10, 2020, 12:21:50 PM


And here I thought dinner whoring was a U.S. phenomenon...
Nope.  And TBH, Dominican women are no different when it comes to hoping and angling to get men nearby to pay for their food and drink.   It's just that they are usually less obvious.  More often than not,  men dont disappoint once they make eye contact with chicks posting up.   An offer to buy a chick a drink is usually the least a chick may get from a flirt.   Full meals?   Not likely.   Depends on the sucker, I mean man.   I must say though,  some chicks can inspire some dudes to roll out the red carpet for a chick they deem extra special.
AS a newbie  you going to be blind sided by the ole by mi a presidente or food  and  there time sitting with you even though your not going to f--k them,, best bet is not to by them any thing or say your going to say (vas a follur gratis) going to f--k me for free that will get rid of them!   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 11, 2020, 09:03:23 AM
Dominican Republic extends curfew 20 more days

Santo Domingo.- The Executive Branch extended the curfew for 20 more days, as a measure that seeks to reduce the contagion of the pandemic.

“The curfew established in the national territory by Decree Is extends for 20 days, from November 12 to December 1 of the current year, modified by Decree No. 554-20,” says Article 1 of Decree 619-20, released Tue. night by the Presidency to the media.

President Luis Abinader on October 18, through decree 553-20, had extended another 45 days of the state of emergency to continue the fight against the coronavirus.

The head of state also extended by means of decree 554-20, as of October 18 of the current year, 25 more days of the curfew, which expire today Wednesday.

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/11/11/dominican-republic-extends-curfew-20-more-days/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2020/11/11/dominican-republic-extends-curfew-20-more-days/)

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 11, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
The following article from Sosua News has information that the old D' Latin spot ( which is currently a general merchandise/clothing store ) may end up back in Mayor Willy's control.   With the possibility that he may open a business there himself.   What type remains to be seen?    Apparently the occupants of the store are also the new occupants that opened the same type of store across the street where Bourbon Street restaurant was.    Their plan is probably to close down one store and keep the new one.


Sosua News November 8, 2020
Bourbon Street Restaurant Now a Department Store


After months of renovation, a new department store will soon be opened in the Pedro Clisante. Bourbon Street Bar Restaurant used to be located here. On Wednesday evening, November 6, 2019, the bars and discotheques in the main street Pedro Clisante of Sosúa were closed by order of the city council. This to combat the 'excesses' of nightlife. Bourbon Street Bar was also closed at the time.

Now it appears that the Chinese manager of the department store opposite Bar Central, bought Bourbon Street bar and turned it into a department store. The items he will sell there, clothing, footwear, household appliances, electronics and toys, are the same as what he sold in the other department store.

It is said that Mayor Willy Olivences has taken the other department store back and wants to turn it into a beautiful bar. It used to be a beautiful bar that many visitors to Sosúa still have fond memories of. Hopefully those happy times will return.


https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=6072&article=1 (https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=6072&article=1)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on November 12, 2020, 07:59:26 AM
Maybe Willy playing both sides, as is the president. We shall see.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 12, 2020, 10:54:30 PM
Well all is not lost,,  ok guess one asian junk shop is better than two,, going to be epic  the strip is not dead after all !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 19, 2020, 04:09:54 AM
Wednesday November 18, 2020

This will read like a trip report.   Had a buddy in PP needed help with his car.   Another buddy needed to be dropped off to the airport.   So I asked another buddy of mine to ride with me to POP and Puerto Plata. 

While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left.

My buddy and I got back to Sosua.  Decided to get a drink at the bar where another buddy was hanging out.   So we went to that bar which is across the street from Europa.   Hillary the bartender served us.   Were drinking and talking.   Loud music is playing at the bar/restaurant next door.   Local chicks and local dudes were there enjoying themselves.   My buddies and I are checking out the traffic and the chicks walking nearby.  Streets are alive.

After that they wanted to know where Copacabana was.   So we went there to see what was going on.   It was about 730pm.   Nothing going on, but they liked the set up.   After curfew,  that might be a cool place to make a hookup.  By then there should be plenty of taxis on hand when it's time to go.   Ok we leave and head to Bailee's.

Get to Bailee's, park in the back.   You have to enter from the side.  The whole front of Bailee's is blocked from entry.   As we enter,  I see Claritza ( now a Sosua vet ) sitting with a client.  I make brief eye contact to acknowledge her,  she does the same.  Her cover is still in tact.    All 3 of us go sit at the bar.   Sitting next to me is a chick ive seen plenty of times in Sosua.    She looks Haitian, but she may just be a dark Dominican.   We all make small talk with her.   Me maybe the most. 

Im not interested in hiring anyone,  I was just being friendly.  One of the others guys may have had a little interest.  So I made sure to introduce her to him.  I do not recall what sparked this.  But I recall her saying to me.   She is not the type to engage in convo 1st.   She feels it's up to a guy to express interest in her.   I understand the logic behind that.   But I do not exactly agree with her.   In fact,  I believe that is one reason why enough chicks fail to get picked up.   They make no effort to engage with men in situations that are ideal.    Merely talking or communicating is not a sign of desperation or being forward.   But some chicks sit there like a prima donna and act like they have no responsibility in securing clients.  That is what they are there for.  To get clients.

The chick was only good at responding to me showing interest in talking to her.   My buddy, that I had introduced to,  he told the bartender to see what the chick was drinking, and give it to her.   She told the bartender , she wanted wine.   She got the wine.  Gave the dude a salud with her glass ( she had to reach behind me to do it because my other buddy was in the middle. )     She got her drink,  played with her phone.   And thats it.   That is as far as it went between them.   So she was open for business.  But the only way she would get work,  is if some guy followed through from beginning to end.

My buddy was basically just being nice.  He already told me that he had plans with a regular tomorrow.   He might have got with the chick next to me,  if she made more effort in communicating than just sitting there messing with her phone.   Me sitting right next to her she could have been more engaging with me.   The only thing she was good for,  was responding to being spoken to.  She never asked me anything.  Not my name, where am I from.  How are you enjoying your vacation, nothing.   

Next up is my buddy next to me.   He has the sauce in him, so he's feeling nice.   Across from us though,  is two guys together.  Next to one of those guys is a cute petite chick.   The dude sitting next to her is in obvious mack mode.   How convenient.  Her sitting right there.   She seems to be comfortable talking to him.  But in my estimation,  the convo is still like the chick next to me.  The guy does most of the talking,  asks a bunch of questions and the chicks just sit there fielding and responding to an interrogation.   That instead of it being a two way convo.

At some point there is a break in convo, as if they were done talking.  Me and my buddy had already mentioned to each other how cute she was.   Well my buddy got up went over there.  Sat next to her on the other side.   The two of them talked.  My buddies Spanish is almost non existent.  But the two of them were engaged back and forth for a good 20 minutes or so.   The dude on the other side of her was peeking at the whole thing.  Looking in amazement in how he may have lost his spot.  He also appeared to be a little embarrassed that my buddy moved in on the girl , and the way he did it so fast.   I chock that up to the sauce.   

When my buddy came back,  he came back just in time for us to enjoy some pizza.   My buddy , still in mack mode,  puts 2 slices on a plate, and takes it over to the chick he was talking to.   That move basically sealed the deal.   It almost looked like a E. F. Hutton commercial where everything stops, and everybody is listening and paying attention to what just went down. 

He gives her the pizza, and comes back to his seat with us.   A few minutes later, my buddy has some mouth pain.  Eating the pizza interfered with some recent dental work he had a few days ago here.   I was watching the chick he was talking to.  Every now and then her cute self was looking at my buddy.   It's like he had got her attention big time.   The dude that was sitting next to her, tried to make a last ditch effort at being sociable.   But it went no where.   At some point she got up to go to the bathroom,  and stopped to check on my buddy because she saw that he was in some pain. 

She was speaking some decent English.   Suggested a nearby farmacia for my buddy to go to.    So all of that time that my buddy was talking to her,  it was easy for both of them because she understood enough English.   She left , and came back.   And we all decided to roll.   Us 3 guys with my buddies new friend.   The only thing I didnt like about what I saw,  is that when she came back she had a cigarette in her hand.   I would have never guessed that she smoked.   In the car I playfully asked her if she had any amigas that I could meet next time.   She said of course,  and asks,  why not now?   She immediately shows me a pic of one of her GF's.   Sexy too.   

But before I get all gooey over one of her friends,  I would need time to vet her 1st.  The pic was nice , no doubt.  But I need to feel comfortable before I decide to pull the trigger.   Right now it's all about my buddy and his date having a good time.   Dont want anything to ruin this cool hookup.   I was happy as if I was taking the chick home.   As an expat,  I sometimes live through the good times and reports from my friends and strangers , when they come here.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: dawkins on November 19, 2020, 11:35:42 AM
Nice report,  Add some fotos.  Love Bailies.   

This will read like a trip report.   Had a buddy in PP needed help with his car.   Another buddy needed to be dropped off to the airport.   So I asked another buddy of mine to ride with me to POP and Puerto Plata. 

While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left.

My buddy and I got back to Sosua.  Decided to get a drink at the bar where another buddy was hanging out.   So we went to that bar which is across the street from Europa.   Hillary the bartender served us.   Were drinking and talking.   Loud music is playing at the bar/restaurant next door.   Local chicks and local dudes were there enjoying themselves.   My buddies and I are checking out the traffic and the chicks walking nearby.  Streets are alive.

After that they wanted to know where Copacabana was.   So we went there to see what was going on.   It was about 730pm.   Nothing going on, but they liked the set up.   After curfew,  that might be a cool place to make a hookup.  By then there should be plenty of taxis on hand when it's time to go.   Ok we leave and head to Bailee's.

Get to Bailee's, park in the back.   You have to enter from the side.  The whole front of Bailee's is blocked from entry.   As we enter,  I see Claritza ( now a Sosua vet ) sitting with a client.  I make brief eye contact to acknowledge her,  she does the same.  Her cover is still in tact.    All 3 of us go sit at the bar.   Sitting next to me is a chick ive seen plenty of times in Sosua.    She looks Haitian, but she may just be a dark Dominican.   We all make small talk with her.   Me maybe the most. 

Im not interested in hiring anyone,  I was just being friendly.  One of the others guys may have had a little interest.  So I made sure to introduce her to him.  I do not recall what sparked this.  But I recall her saying to me.   She is not the type to engage in convo 1st.   She feels it's up to a guy to express interest in her.   I understand the logic behind that.   But I do not exactly agree with her.   In fact,  I believe that is one reason why enough chicks fail to get picked up.   They make no effort to engage with men in situations that are ideal.    Merely talking or communicating is not a sign of desperation or being forward.   But some chicks sit there like a prima donna and act like they have no responsibility in securing clients.  That is what they are there for.  To get clients.

The chick was only good at responding to me showing interest in talking to her.   My buddy, that I had introduced to,  he told the bartender to see what the chick was drinking, and give it to her.   She told the bartender , she wanted wine.   She got the wine.  Gave the dude a salud with her glass ( she had to reach behind me to do it because my other buddy was in the middle. )     She got her drink,  played with her phone.   And thats it.   That is as far as it went between them.   So she was open for business.  But the only way she would get work,  is if some guy followed through from beginning to end.

My buddy was basically just being nice.  He already told me that he had plans with a regular tomorrow.   He might have got with the chick next to me,  if she made more effort in communicating than just sitting there messing with her phone.   Me sitting right next to her she could have been more engaging with me.   The only thing she was good for,  was responding to being spoken to.  She never asked me anything.  Not my name, where am I from.  How are you enjoying your vacation, nothing.   

Next up is my buddy next to me.   He has the sauce in him, so he's feeling nice.   Across from us though,  is two guys together.  Next to one of those guys is a cute petite chick.   The dude sitting next to her is in obvious mack mode.   How convenient.  Her sitting right there.   She seems to be comfortable talking to him.  But in my estimation,  the convo is still like the chick next to me.  The guy does most of the talking,  asks a bunch of questions and the chicks just sit there fielding and responding to an interrogation.   That instead of it being a two way convo.

At some point there is a break in convo, as if they were done talking.  Me and my buddy had already mentioned to each other how cute she was.   Well my buddy got up went over there.  Sat next to her on the other side.   The two of them talked.  My buddies Spanish is almost non existent.  But the two of them were engaged back and forth for a good 20 minutes or so.   The dude on the other side of her was peeking at the whole thing.  Looking in amazement in how he may have lost his spot.  He also appeared to be a little embarrassed that my buddy moved in on the girl , and the way he did it so fast.   I chock that up to the sauce.   

When my buddy came back,  he came back just in time for us to enjoy some pizza.   My buddy , still in mack mode,  puts 2 slices on a plate, and takes it over to the chick he was talking to.   That move basically sealed the deal.   It almost looked like a E. F. Hutton commercial where everything stops, and everybody is listening and paying attention to what just went down. 

He gives her the pizza, and comes back to his seat with us.   A few minutes later, my buddy has some mouth pain.  Eating the pizza interfered with some recent dental work he had a few days ago here.   I was watching the chick he was talking to.  Every now and then her cute self was looking at my buddy.   It's like he had got her attention big time.   The dude that was sitting next to her, tried to make a last ditch effort at being sociable.   But it went no where.   At some point she got up to go to the bathroom,  and stopped to check on my buddy because she saw that he was in some pain. 

She was speaking some decent English.   Suggested a nearby farmacia for my buddy to go to.    So all of that time that my buddy was talking to her,  it was easy for both of them because she understood enough English.   She left , and came back.   And we all decided to roll.   Us 3 guys with my buddies new friend.   The only thing I didnt like about what I saw,  is that when she came back she had a cigarette in her hand.   I would have never guessed that she smoked.   In the car I playfully asked her if she had any amigas that I could meet next time.   She said of course,  and asks,  why not now?   She immediately shows me a pic of one of her GF's.   Sexy too.   

But before I get all gooey over one of her friends,  I would need time to vet her 1st.  The pic was nice , no doubt.  But I need to feel comfortable before I decide to pull the trigger.   Right now it's all about my buddy and his date having a good time.   Dont want anything to ruin this cool hookup.   I was happy as if I was taking the chick home.   As an expat,  I sometimes live through the good times and reports from my friends and strangers , when they come here.   
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on November 19, 2020, 11:39:57 AM
Wednesday November 18, 2020

This will read like a trip report.   Had a buddy in PP needed help with his car.   Another buddy needed to be dropped off to the airport.   So I asked another buddy of mine to ride with me to POP and Puerto Plata. 

While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left.

My buddy and I got back to Sosua.  Decided to get a drink at the bar where another buddy was hanging out.   So we went to that bar which is across the street from Europa.   Hillary the bartender served us.   Were drinking and talking.   Loud music is playing at the bar/restaurant next door.   Local chicks and local dudes were there enjoying themselves.   My buddies and I are checking out the traffic and the chicks walking nearby.  Streets are alive.

After that they wanted to know where Copacabana was.   So we went there to see what was going on.   It was about 730pm.   Nothing going on, but they liked the set up.   After curfew,  that might be a cool place to make a hookup.  By then there should be plenty of taxis on hand when it's time to go.   Ok we leave and head to Bailee's.

Get to Bailee's, park in the back.   You have to enter from the side.  The whole front of Bailee's is blocked from entry.   As we enter,  I see Claritza ( now a Sosua vet ) sitting with a client.  I make brief eye contact to acknowledge her,  she does the same.  Her cover is still in tact.    All 3 of us go sit at the bar.   Sitting next to me is a chick ive seen plenty of times in Sosua.    She looks Haitian, but she may just be a dark Dominican.   We all make small talk with her.   Me maybe the most. 

Im not interested in hiring anyone,  I was just being friendly.  One of the others guys may have had a little interest.  So I made sure to introduce her to him.  I do not recall what sparked this.  But I recall her saying to me.   She is not the type to engage in convo 1st.   She feels it's up to a guy to express interest in her.   I understand the logic behind that.   But I do not exactly agree with her.   In fact,  I believe that is one reason why enough chicks fail to get picked up.   They make no effort to engage with men in situations that are ideal.    Merely talking or communicating is not a sign of desperation or being forward.   But some chicks sit there like a prima donna and act like they have no responsibility in securing clients.  That is what they are there for.  To get clients.

The chick was only good at responding to me showing interest in talking to her.   My buddy, that I had introduced to,  he told the bartender to see what the chick was drinking, and give it to her.   She told the bartender , she wanted wine.   She got the wine.  Gave the dude a salud with her glass ( she had to reach behind me to do it because my other buddy was in the middle. )     She got her drink,  played with her phone.   And thats it.   That is as far as it went between them.   So she was open for business.  But the only way she would get work,  is if some guy followed through from beginning to end.

My buddy was basically just being nice.  He already told me that he had plans with a regular tomorrow.   He might have got with the chick next to me,  if she made more effort in communicating than just sitting there messing with her phone.   Me sitting right next to her she could have been more engaging with me.   The only thing she was good for,  was responding to being spoken to.  She never asked me anything.  Not my name, where am I from.  How are you enjoying your vacation, nothing.   

Next up is my buddy next to me.   He has the sauce in him, so he's feeling nice.   Across from us though,  is two guys together.  Next to one of those guys is a cute petite chick.   The dude sitting next to her is in obvious mack mode.   How convenient.  Her sitting right there.   She seems to be comfortable talking to him.  But in my estimation,  the convo is still like the chick next to me.  The guy does most of the talking,  asks a bunch of questions and the chicks just sit there fielding and responding to an interrogation.   That instead of it being a two way convo.

At some point there is a break in convo, as if they were done talking.  Me and my buddy had already mentioned to each other how cute she was.   Well my buddy got up went over there.  Sat next to her on the other side.   The two of them talked.  My buddies Spanish is almost non existent.  But the two of them were engaged back and forth for a good 20 minutes or so.   The dude on the other side of her was peeking at the whole thing.  Looking in amazement in how he may have lost his spot.  He also appeared to be a little embarrassed that my buddy moved in on the girl , and the way he did it so fast.   I chock that up to the sauce.   

When my buddy came back,  he came back just in time for us to enjoy some pizza.   My buddy , still in mack mode,  puts 2 slices on a plate, and takes it over to the chick he was talking to.   That move basically sealed the deal.   It almost looked like a E. F. Hutton commercial where everything stops, and everybody is listening and paying attention to what just went down. 

He gives her the pizza, and comes back to his seat with us.   A few minutes later, my buddy has some mouth pain.  Eating the pizza interfered with some recent dental work he had a few days ago here.   I was watching the chick he was talking to.  Every now and then her cute self was looking at my buddy.   It's like he had got her attention big time.   The dude that was sitting next to her, tried to make a last ditch effort at being sociable.   But it went no where.   At some point she got up to go to the bathroom,  and stopped to check on my buddy because she saw that he was in some pain. 

She was speaking some decent English.   Suggested a nearby farmacia for my buddy to go to.    So all of that time that my buddy was talking to her,  it was easy for both of them because she understood enough English.   She left , and came back.   And we all decided to roll.   Us 3 guys with my buddies new friend.   The only thing I didnt like about what I saw,  is that when she came back she had a cigarette in her hand.   I would have never guessed that she smoked.   In the car I playfully asked her if she had any amigas that I could meet next time.   She said of course,  and asks,  why not now?   She immediately shows me a pic of one of her GF's.   Sexy too.   

But before I get all gooey over one of her friends,  I would need time to vet her 1st.  The pic was nice , no doubt.  But I need to feel comfortable before I decide to pull the trigger.   Right now it's all about my buddy and his date having a good time.   Dont want anything to ruin this cool hookup.   I was happy as if I was taking the chick home.   As an expat,  I sometimes live through the good times and reports from my friends and strangers , when they come here.   

Wonder if her name was Yenifer
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 19, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
Wednesday November 18, 2020


While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left. 

Great report! I enjoy American BBQ immensely and wonder where this restaurant is or more importantly, how to drive there? Is it the same road to Cupey on the hill or is it up through Torre Alta?  Maybe across the dry bridge by the hospital?  Can you remember something at the intersection where you would turn off the main road?  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 19, 2020, 01:30:02 PM
Wednesday November 18, 2020


While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left. 

Great report! I enjoy American BBQ immensely and wonder where this restaurant is or more importantly, how to drive there? Is it the same road to Cupey on the hill or is it up through Torre Alta?  Maybe across the dry bridge by the hospital?  Can you remember something at the intersection where you would turn off the main road?  Thanks in advance!
Ok here we go.   If you are coming from Sosua it will be the 1st light you get to when you get to Puerto Plata ( immediately after you pass the Brugal plant.)    And you make a left there ( cant make a right ),  and go way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ, which will be on the left.    The American BBQ sign is outside on a light blue bldg.   The owner actually has off street parking in a small lot across the street.   His dining area is up two flights of stairs out doors.  Consists of maybe 7 plastic tables, with chairs.    The kitchen and bathroom is on street level.   

If you are coming from Jumbo,  heading towards Sosua,  it will be approx 4 blocks until you get to the last light in PP.   But this time you turn right ( cant turn left ), and proceed way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 19, 2020, 01:33:33 PM

Wonder if her name was Yenifer
Which one are you referring to?  The Haitian looking chica that was sitting next to me at the bar said her name was Jennifer.  But I suppose that would be spelled Yenifer.    The chick my buddy took home,  her name wasnt Yenifer.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 19, 2020, 01:38:15 PM
Wednesday November 18, 2020


While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left. 

Great report! I enjoy American BBQ immensely and wonder where this restaurant is or more importantly, how to drive there? Is it the same road to Cupey on the hill or is it up through Torre Alta?  Maybe across the dry bridge by the hospital?  Can you remember something at the intersection where you would turn off the main road?  Thanks in advance!
Ok here we go.   If you are coming from Sosua it will be the 1st light you get to when you get to Puerto Plata ( immediately after you pass the Brugal plant.)    And you make a left there ( cant make a right ),  and go way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ, which will be on the left.    The American BBQ sign is outside on a light blue bldg.   The owner actually has off street parking in a small lot across the street.   His dining area is up two flights of stairs out doors.  Consists of maybe 7 plastic tables, with chairs.    The kitchen and bathroom is on street level.   

If you are coming from Jumbo,  heading towards Sosua,  it will be approx 4 blocks until you get to the last light in PP.   But this time you turn right ( cant turn left ), and proceed way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ.
Thank you! I know that road and I'll be sure to enjoy the restaurant when I return!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 19, 2020, 01:41:08 PM
Wednesday November 18, 2020


While in PP,  my buddy there suggested all 3 of us check out the American BBQ spot.   Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).   

One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community way below.   All 3 of us ordered food.   Two of us had rice with shrimp,  the other had a steak.  Food was decent.    The owner mentioned that he was doing Thanksgiving dinner.   He was only making enough for 30 people.   We ate and left. 

Great report! I enjoy American BBQ immensely and wonder where this restaurant is or more importantly, how to drive there? Is it the same road to Cupey on the hill or is it up through Torre Alta?  Maybe across the dry bridge by the hospital?  Can you remember something at the intersection where you would turn off the main road?  Thanks in advance!
Ok here we go.   If you are coming from Sosua it will be the 1st light you get to when you get to Puerto Plata ( immediately after you pass the Brugal plant.)    And you make a left there ( cant make a right ),  and go way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ, which will be on the left.    The American BBQ sign is outside on a light blue bldg.   The owner actually has off street parking in a small lot across the street.   His dining area is up two flights of stairs out doors.  Consists of maybe 7 plastic tables, with chairs.    The kitchen and bathroom is on street level.   

If you are coming from Jumbo,  heading towards Sosua,  it will be approx 4 blocks until you get to the last light in PP.   But this time you turn right ( cant turn left ), and proceed way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ.
Thank you! I know that road and I'll be sure to enjoy the restaurant when I return!!
Thanksgiving menu. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on November 20, 2020, 12:30:24 PM
@Murano, Maybe you could put up a google maps link to where this place is?
I have a good idea but it would be easier with a google maps link.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 20, 2020, 03:50:42 PM
@Murano, Maybe you could put up a google maps link to where this place is?
I have a good idea but it would be easier with a google maps link.
Hope this helps

https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 20, 2020, 04:02:22 PM
Man, I would have totally missed that...I was thinking closer to highway 5.  I'm glad you asked for the google map!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JoeyInNY on November 20, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
@Murano, Maybe you could put up a google maps link to where this place is?
I have a good idea but it would be easier with a google maps link.
Hope this helps

https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811)

I went to American BBQ a couple of years ago but I remember it being near the cathedral. Is this a different one or did they move? I think one owner was from Florida and the other from California.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 20, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
Man, I would have totally missed that...I was thinking closer to highway 5.  I'm glad you asked for the google map!!
Now Papi, I gave three specific clues to go on.   Two in my report,  and one in my directions.



1. you make a left there ( cant make a right ),  and go way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ, which will be on the left.

2.   Major clue!     Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).

3.  One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community WAY BELOW.


So damn Papi,  I said all of that so anyone would get the idea the place was way up the mountain away from the main road.   How could you get the idea it was close to route 5?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 20, 2020, 05:07:13 PM
@Murano, Maybe you could put up a google maps link to where this place is?
I have a good idea but it would be easier with a google maps link.
Hope this helps

https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811)

I went to American BBQ a couple of years ago but I remember it being near the cathedral. Is this a different one or did they move? I think one owner was from Florida and the other from California.
They are no longer at that location that you recall.   The directions I gave is the current location.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 20, 2020, 05:56:51 PM
Man, I would have totally missed that...I was thinking closer to highway 5.  I'm glad you asked for the google map!!
Now Papi, I gave three specific clues to go on.   Two in my report,  and one in my directions.



1. you make a left there ( cant make a right ),  and go way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ, which will be on the left.

2.   Major clue!     Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).

3.  One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community WAY BELOW.


So damn Papi,  I said all of that so anyone would get the idea the place was way up the mountain away from the main road.   How could you get the idea it was close to route 5?

I looked at google maps and figured they took over the restaurant on the left side as you go up the hill. I didnt think for a minute that anyone would have a restaurant that far up there. Haha You have to admit no one is gonna walk off the street that far up! Haha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 21, 2020, 04:16:02 AM
Man, I would have totally missed that...I was thinking closer to highway 5.  I'm glad you asked for the google map!!
Now Papi, I gave three specific clues to go on.   Two in my report,  and one in my directions.



1. you make a left there ( cant make a right ),  and go way up the winding road until you get to American BBQ, which will be on the left.

2.   Major clue!     Turns out this place is way up in the hills of Puerto Plata.   It was high enough to where you could look up,  and the top of the mountain and dark clouds seemed awfully close compared to seeing it from the main road ( Route 5 ).

3.  One of the guys that owns the spot has a restaurant set up, and his home is in the background,  about 150 yards away.   The view from his house offers a beautiful view of the ocean, and a wide view of the Puerto Plata community WAY BELOW.


So damn Papi,  I said all of that so anyone would get the idea the place was way up the mountain away from the main road.   How could you get the idea it was close to route 5?

I looked at google maps and figured they took over the restaurant on the left side as you go up the hill. I didnt think for a minute that anyone would have a restaurant that far up there. Haha You have to admit no one is gonna walk off the street that far up! Haha
The good thing about that Google Map,  is that it shows the phone number ( Whatsapp ) and they deliver.    Shows a partial menu.   And here is a link so one could see what the place looks like.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646297,-70.6757811,3a,75y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipM8cSR6feO4v1JXQCZFme5mOpvBLhmibIFn89l6!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM8cSR6feO4v1JXQCZFme5mOpvBLhmibIFn89l6%3Dw529-h298-k-no!7i1440!8i810!4m7!3m6!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811!14m1!1BCgIgAQ (https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646297,-70.6757811,3a,75y/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipM8cSR6feO4v1JXQCZFme5mOpvBLhmibIFn89l6!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM8cSR6feO4v1JXQCZFme5mOpvBLhmibIFn89l6%3Dw529-h298-k-no!7i1440!8i810!4m7!3m6!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811!14m1!1BCgIgAQ)

Facing front,  one can see the Large sign out front.   Behind that sign/wall is their kitchen.   You have to walk towards the back to get to the kitchen and a small restroom, and a counter where you pay.   To the left are the stairs I talked about ( in my report ) to get to the dining area.   So you have to walk up those stairs to get to the platform where the tables and chairs are.   

There was no dining area down stairs.   Maybe in that parking area next to the kitchen he puts tables and chairs there for very large groups?   But for the most part,  the dining area is upstairs on that platform.     The owner did say that he would be widening that platform to accommodate more dining.   So if anybody decides to come there to dine,  and someone in their party is unable to walk up those stairs,  take that into consideration.    The waitress was getting a lot of exercise.  Because everything ordered or requested had to be walked up and down those stairs.   

But remember,  delivery or pickup is still available.   One could even arrange it,  so that whoever delivers the food can meet their party right on Route 5.   That way one can spare themselves having to drive way up that hill.    However, I do recommend the trip at least once,  for those who have never been up that far.   

Also take into consideration that the dining is not enclosed.   So a heavy rain with any wind blowing might be an uncomfortable experience up on that dining platform.  As well as dealing with flies and mosquitoes outdoors. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 21, 2020, 10:37:35 AM
I'm going when I get back and the weather will be perfect for eating outside.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on November 21, 2020, 12:52:41 PM
@Murano, Maybe you could put up a google maps link to where this place is?
I have a good idea but it would be easier with a google maps link.
Hope this helps

https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/American+Bar+B+Q+and+Grill/@19.7646347,-70.6779698,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8eb1ef01b715ad7d:0xce4ebbc4bb7ec9bf!8m2!3d19.7646297!4d-70.6757811)

Thanks for the link ... I will be visiting for sure on my next trip.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 22, 2020, 09:16:45 AM


Thanks for the link ... I will be visiting for sure on my next trip.

Thank you! I know that road and I'll be sure to enjoy the restaurant when I return!!
You both are welcome!   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 24, 2020, 04:34:46 AM
I'm going when I get back and the weather will be perfect for eating outside.
Sure be nice to sit at there resteraunt  enjoy the views  including big boob chicas  Yeah !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 24, 2020, 07:48:29 AM
I'm going when I get back and the weather will be perfect for eating outside.
Sure be nice to sit at there resteraunt  enjoy the views  including big boob chicas  Yeah !
For the most part the main view from the restaurant is looking at the mountain and clouds.   It's hard to see the Puerto Plata City from the restaurant.  One would have to see the view from his ( American BBQ owner ) house,  which is closer to the edge where you can look down.   From the restaurant platform, you can only catch a glimpse of the ocean and little of the landscape down below.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 25, 2020, 07:38:23 AM
Monday and Tuesday November 23 and 24th, me moving around.       I thought I recall someone claiming that Blue Ice Piano Bar on Dr. Rosen was going to open or was open?   Well it definitely is open.    I saw a couple of chicks sitting close to the front entrance.  Looking nice, but thirsty ( for someone to buy them drinks, and possibly hire them )

Also, I'm sure it's been stated, but I'll state it again.   Sosua is full of chicks here to make that holiday money.  You can tell there are extra chicks on the scene too.  Some that will make you say to yourself "Damn, I guess they let anybody come to Sosua to work ".   "And of course enough that may make one say, "Now thats the kind of talent that should be here all of the time"

It is what it is.  So many people come to Sosua to get a piece of the action.  A lot of money has been made since the borders were open.  Dozens and dozens of familiar faces of friends and strangers have gotten flights to be in the DR and Sosua.  Good times with some of my friends and associates.    Guys that were once afraid,  have canned those fears in favor of getting away from where they came from.

Some dudes will tell you straight away.  The situation in the states is pretty bad.  Lost jobs, closed businesses, entertainment shut down.  Everybody having to adapt to a different way of dealing with day to day.  And with that in mind they dont find traveling to the DR as much of a threat as they originally felt.    The DR Healthcare still is not on par with the US,  but that has not stopped people from coming to the DR.       

I guess it's ok when they make that decision after being on lockdown and deprived of normalcy for so long.   But enough felt it was stupid a few months ago , for any expats and tourists to stay in the DR if they had a chance to be in the states for that superior health care.   Whether you live here or visiting, what difference does it make now?   Were all in the same boat just different view from where were sitting.   

If you come here there is no US healthcare in the DR.      I said all along.   Im not here for the DR healthcare.   Im here because I feel I am in a better place with less exposure, where I can take care of myself.    Many people in the states recovered without going to a hospital, and so have many people here in the DR.  Both places have suffered casualties.

Anyway,   Most people visiting Sosua seem to be very happy being here.   Especially if they came from a cold climate.  I see a few of the Canadian regulars here.  Some flew into Punta Cana and made it to Sosua where they wanted to be.  I guess them dudes have low self esteem, no confidence or cant afford the chicks in Punta Cana/Bavaro?      Because they were supposed to stay in PC and hire only quality and high value chicks.    No men/mongers over there in PC with low self esteem , and they all can afford them high value, high quality chicks.   

Ive been through a 8pm curfew, a 5pm curfew, a 7pm curfew, And now a 9pm curfew.  With the slight work arounds in place for enjoyment and recreation, I have to say being here must not be all that bad, at least for some folks. 


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 25, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
One little small PSA.   Guys be on the watch alert for chicks you approach telling you that they are leaving tonight or tomorrow to go back home.   I believe that strategy is going to be used a lot during this holiday season.  Especially the closer we get to the holiday before the skeleton crew of undesirable chicas take over until after the holiday.   

One of my buddies stopped this one chick on the beach.  Ive seen this chick for a while now.   Older chick ( mid to late 30's ) that has a small entourage of chicks in tow.   She also drives a car.   

My tipsy buddy stops her.  Proceeds to get her number.  And the chick starts making a case of how she is leaving tomorrow morning ( It was Monday afternoon at the time ),  and returning next week.   And in the next breath,  asked my buddy for a Presidente.   Even in his sloshed state,   he just told her "baby, I aint got it,  I got to pay for all of these drinks at this table".   Technically he was telling the truth.   After she left it kinda sunk in.  The chick had a lot of nerve to be asking for a Presidente right off the bat.   She wasnt sitting with him.  He just stopped her.   

Now before anybody gives their self righteous input,  we all know chicks are going to test a dude.  Mainly because in many instances, the shit works.  But my input is just a friendly PSA reinforcement.    Chicks are going to pull out the entire playbook on dudes this season.   And guess what?   The chick that was supposed to be leaving the next day?  Saw the chick yesterday.   She didnt leave.   

When she said she wasnt coming back until next week,  her cover was instantly blown.   Oh and BTW,  the stuff Im talking about these are things that are done in front of the students that they have in tow.   It's done to demonstrate how they can go about getting free food and drinks, and also manipulate a dude into feeling he has to hire the chick because she is leaving town.   When that mentor/teacher doesnt get hired or get that free drink, she has to explain what just happened as they move on to the next salivating potential customer.   

And try to avoid thinking that you just blew an opportunity of f--king a chick or all of her friends just because you didnt buy drinks ( or food ) for them.   Demonstrating an abundance mindset is better than demonstrating a scarcity mindset. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 07, 2020, 09:36:43 PM
Fight fire with fire, say no pago por sexo  i no pay for sex,, nada no ,no gracious  shutem down   right off the bat !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 09, 2020, 01:16:26 PM
An Upcoming Christmas Holiday Event.  At The Tree House ( Papa's) at Hotel Las Palmeras.   Hotel Las Palmeras and The Tree House is around the corner from Kings on calle Dr. Rosen.  You can see it from the Metro Bus Station
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 10, 2020, 05:07:30 PM
After a long day of travel including a misplaced lab top  .Distracted By TSA inspection in Boston.  Wasn't paying attention  set the f--king down trying to retrieve  my other bag   My Bad.   Sirs Becareful with your stuff  dont bring any thing illegal  TSA pulling half of the carry on for complete inspection.   No big deal as I had a small rice cooker for a chica that set the alarm bells off.   Any ways its raing her now on the strip  very few chicas only the rough looking hard core.  3 of the female cops on patrol.  Kinda strange atmosphere  with the new chinese junk store open. Bump into my T. . Interesting comentary.  Still early. If its stops raining out  chicas may be out later at the usual  spots.   Kings .solada bar and a few others think I'll lay low before my first take down and rest up  !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on December 10, 2020, 05:44:47 PM
Have fun for the rest of us here in the Matrix!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 11, 2020, 05:32:46 PM
Sirs use the Tell a Chica net work ! Ok raining cats and dogs on Dr Rosen most hoes running for cover.  When one of
my trusted  repeat was out of Town for a few days Not to worry. She says I'll send  a amiga  over her friend. Not to shabby tall thin spinner type hatian  chica.  Good session.  50 usd.  Good to have chicas come though in the clutch . 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on December 11, 2020, 08:29:19 PM
Still going strong


The ST is still good at $2000 to $2500!!!  Based on the exchangew rate or 57; you doing just fine!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 11, 2020, 09:09:46 PM
Yes sir. agreed price no bait and switch.  No drama. . 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on December 12, 2020, 08:54:39 AM
Still going strong


The ST is still good at $2000 to $2500!!!  Based on the exchangew rate or 57; you doing just fine!!!

Was there last month...actually 1500-2500MAX gets you 98 percent of what's in the city for ST
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 12, 2020, 03:52:57 PM
No Maskas well sir half the folks not wearing mask  expats as well. However always have one on the ready for moto's pubicos supermacado any inside place.  Lax enforcement . Of cource once the chicas drops her ropes off comes the mask
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 12, 2020, 04:07:54 PM
Plenty of really aggressive chicas out on Dr Rosen and the Strip. Before chica covide Cinderella hour !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on December 12, 2020, 05:04:56 PM
Still going strong


The ST is still good at $2000 to $2500!!!  Based on the exchangew rate or 57; you doing just fine!!!

When did you come off 1500?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on December 12, 2020, 05:56:57 PM
morrano I get what your saying about the teacher leading a class, about 8 yrs. ago I was at the Sea Breeze, went  around the corner on to Rosen, across from Fraggle  Rock is a Haitian bar. I was approached by a gang of chicas (5-6) AT 1200 am on my way home. All of them except one were pros, standing in the back was a sweet 19 yr. old, I broke through the crowed, grabbed her hand and took her away, not a word said until we got to the room. Cost me 10,000 for the best 3 days of my life. Eights later that solid 7 still stays the night for 3000.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on December 12, 2020, 06:14:00 PM
It's been said on this site that I DON'T HAVE GAME BEACUSE I DON'T POST PICS. IT'S BECAUSE THE WOMEN I DEAL WITH I RESPECT. Okay some guy have chicas that like to advertise some don't. If they do advertise it's up to them. I will not f--k-up a good thing for your approval
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on December 12, 2020, 06:14:53 PM
morrano I get what your saying about the teacher leading a class, about 8 yrs. ago I was at the Sea Breeze, went  around the corner on to Rosen, across from Fraggle  Rock is a Haitian bar. I was approached by a gang of chicas (5-6) AT 1200 am on my way home. All of them except one were pros, standing in the back was a sweet 19 yr. old, I broke through the crowed, grabbed her hand and took her away, not a word said until we got to the room. Cost me 10,000 for the best 3 days of my life. Eights later that solid 7 still stays the night for 3000.

Somewhat in that vein on my most recent trip had one of the old veterans introduce me to her 18 year daughter who had just obtained her cédula. Didn’t expect much, but damn that turned out to be quite an enjoyable afternoon.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Stonewall on December 12, 2020, 06:24:24 PM
Somewhat in that vein on my most recent trip had one of the old veterans introduce me to her 18 year daughter who had just obtained her cédula. Didn’t expect much, but damn that turned out to be quite an enjoyable afternoon.

As dirty as I am, this might be too weird for me.
Doesn't mean I would refuse the offer.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on December 12, 2020, 06:46:40 PM
Somewhat in that vein on my most recent trip had one of the old veterans introduce me to her 18 year daughter who had just obtained her cédula. Didn’t expect much, but damn that turned out to be quite an enjoyable afternoon.

As dirty as I am, this might be too weird for me.
Doesn't me I would refuse the offer.

I viewed it as a compliment.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 14, 2020, 06:34:13 PM
For you guys here in Sosua NOW checking out the chicas that are here.   How are the chicas with their price expectations/demands?   Are they flexible?  Or holding the line?    Are they trying to get you to repeat?   Anybody doing TLN's with any of them?   Service on average?    Good, bad, neutral?     

What meeting places were the best, IYO?   Beach, Kings, Ahnvee, Bailee's, in passing on the street?   

Which provider has given the best experience service, and less problems or complaints?  Dominicans or Haitians ( or other? )
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 14, 2020, 08:35:25 PM
I'm wifed up at the present time however. Plenty of aggresive  chicas on the strip  early evening before curfew!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 15, 2020, 02:28:19 AM
I'm wifed up at the present time however. Plenty of aggresive  chicas on the strip  early evening before curfew!
Was that wifing up, pre-arranged?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 15, 2020, 03:18:07 AM
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 15, 2020, 07:14:48 AM
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 15, 2020, 02:16:07 PM
Ok off Topic. Looks like the Urban Cabans is closed.Also Rockys appears to be open mabey new owners?  TOday a ghost town on Dr Rosen. Mabey later will pick up. Think the new curfews going to suck if you like nite life !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 17, 2020, 05:50:36 AM
 :-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 17, 2020, 03:31:52 PM
The Chica cat and mouse game are inaffect on Dr Rosen.  Group of about 6 decent looking chicas were all standing out  side of rockys all a sunden they vamos in to rocky. 5 minutes later the 4 female polica stroll by.  They must have lookouts haha !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on December 18, 2020, 09:11:27 AM
The Chica cat and mouse game are inaffect on Dr Rosen.  Group of about 6 decent looking chicas were all standing out  side of rockys all a sunden they vamos in to rocky. 5 minutes later the 4 female polica stroll by.  They must have lookouts haha !

Yea them 4 bitches definitely affecting the game right now. When I was there last month they stayed posted on the strip somewhere...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 18, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Thursday December 16 th, 2020     Went to the beach yesterday.   I would have to say maybe 70% of the chicas I saw on the beach on patrol were Haitian.    And of the Dominican and Haitian chicas I did see,  they appeared to be mostly vet chicks.   Including those that may live in the area ( From Sabaneta to Puerto Plata ).     

It's looks like the roll out of Dominican chicas ( and even enough Haitian chicas ) for the holiday's has begun.   Time for many chicas to be with their families, shop, cook and be festive.     Dont fret none, there will usually be a skeleton crew of both Dominican and Haitian chicas on duty in Sosua throughout the holidays.   Some in Sosua to support their drug habit. 

Plus some chicas may still make themselves available and hired through social media connections.    Lets see how this plays out economically, supply and demand.   Guys coming here or currently here, may be thinking,  the price will likely drop because there are less tourists, and even less chicas.

Chicas on the other hand may be thinking their compensation for services should be steady, or even go up,  since there is less competition.  And of course because it's horny men involved.   Horny men are supposed to be taxed.   IMO, no matter what the supply/demand situation currently is  ( generally speaking, not just p4p ) , many locals dont seem to take into consideration when it is a buyers market, it may be prudent to be more flexible.   Many are stubborn like that. 

Enough locals tend to be stuck on thinking , they can still get full price or over charge.    Just because gringos are supposedly rich and can afford to pay more.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 21, 2020, 08:08:17 AM
Sunday December 20th, 2020   XMAS party at The Tree House  ( Hotel Las Palmeras )

Was a nice event.  A nice mixture of music for everybody.  Old School of almost every genre, salsa, bachata, hip hop, house, club classics, R&B. 

Food was good with healthy options,  delicious rum punch, potent island tea, soft drinks.    Granted the chicas on the scene did not match or exceed the guys there.  But there were enough there looking for work.    This was also an event a guy could bring his own company ( which several guys did bring their gf's and wives ) for a nice afternoon lunch.   

Later, I stopped by Kings to see what was happening inside around 4:45pm.  A buudy of mine was there watching football.  Not many chicas in there.  He also looked kinda bored.   He suggested going to Cheers,  so we went there for a drink.   Chatted up a couple of Haitian sisters in Cheers.  My guess is, they were really looking for white guys to hire them.   At some point they both left Cheers. 

Later one of them texted me saying her and her sister was at The CoCo bar, and could I come over there?  Thats another bar in town serving mostly white patrons.   Again, it appears to be the main clientele those two were looking for.   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on December 21, 2020, 04:19:24 PM
:-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !


The best part !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on December 21, 2020, 04:24:10 PM
:-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on December 21, 2020, 04:30:02 PM
:-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!

I know right LOL...this might sound bad but ever since I took the rubber off at 17......it just doesn't make sense to wear one anymore(for feeling reason not safety reason )....I can't be the only one that feels this way...I don't want to even have sex if I have to use one....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on December 21, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on December 22, 2020, 08:44:54 AM
:-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!


The best part !
[/quote]
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!
[/quote]

I know right LOL...this might sound bad but ever since I took the rubber off at 17......it just doesn't make sense to wear one anymore(for feeling reason not safety reason )....I can't be the only one that feels this way...I don't want to even have sex if I have to use one....
[/quote]

Wow! Smh...lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on December 22, 2020, 09:18:22 AM
:-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!
[/quote]

I know right LOL...this might sound bad but ever since I took the rubber off at 17......it just doesn't make sense to wear one anymore(for feeling reason not safety reason )....I can't be the only one that feels this way...I don't want to even have sex if I have to use one....
[/quote]

Wow! Smh...lol
[/quote]
Don't be shy...We got room in our lane for you. Haha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on December 22, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on December 22, 2020, 01:36:02 PM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...

Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 22, 2020, 04:04:25 PM
:-[44
An few days or more to an agreed price   . Cheaper if you keep her. Let's say any where from pay there rent buy food or go clothes shopping to 100-150 usd per day 24/7. Most of the time no limit on sex .  Also the norm your buying food and drink
Ok I got that.  What I meant to ask,  was this arrangement before you got to the DR?   Meaning were you chatting with the lady online 1st,  and made an arrangement to hook up once you got here?   Or was hooking up with her strictly random while you were already here?
Ok the ones I wired up are trusted repeats I've know for a while. Forget the on line chicas most are pros once you hit the ground shit load of chicas to choose from.   Your best bet is to test ride.  Vet vibe see if the sessions to your liking. If she passes then invite for overnite and longer for a reduced rate. As far as going raw dog.  Most chicas  will get comfortable with  bare back provide there on  the pill a d you dont nut in them. Just becarfule  buyer beware.  Safe sex should be practiced.   Have fun !


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!


The best part !
You had me until you said "Safe sex should be practiced." Where's the fun in that??? Hahaha  Imean, she's a barebackrepeat for a reason!
  Sir spot on You bet repeat chicas go bareback.  Thus good trusted repeats !

I know right LOL...this might sound bad but ever since I took the rubber off at 17......it just doesn't make sense to wear one anymore(for feeling reason not safety reason )....I can't be the only one that feels this way...I don't want to even have sex if I have to use one....
[/quote]

Wow! Smh...lol
[/quote]
Don't be shy...We got room in our lane for you. Haha
[/quote]
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: alexis on December 22, 2020, 04:31:40 PM
Man, you all are raw dawging like that?  ????  Have at it.

It’s been like that since like forever and always the same guys on here promoting it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on December 22, 2020, 09:45:20 PM
Man, you all are raw dawging like that?  ????  Have at it.

Yoooouuuurrrrr missing ouuuutttttt........ ;)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on December 22, 2020, 10:26:22 PM
Man, you all are raw dawging like that?  ????  Have at it.

Yoooouuuurrrrr missing ouuuutttttt........ ;)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11VGdsHTrpS7FS/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on December 24, 2020, 07:42:37 AM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...


Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where

I have asked the chicas and I have asked on this forum and all I get is a huge clinic on hwy5 going out of Sousa towards Cabarete. It’s over  $2k per person is 7X what you are quoting.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on December 24, 2020, 08:41:47 AM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...


Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where

I have asked the chicas and I have asked on this forum and all I get is a huge clinic on hwy5 going out of Sousa towards Cabarete. It’s over  $2k per person is 7X what you are quoting.
They either trying to rip you off, enough guys went in for testing to raw dawg that they decided it was lucrative money and up charge or you went to the wrong place. I always assumed you could testing in SOsua in the clinic in charamicos.

2k is a lot for testing in the DR because it screws over locals. Possible other places shut down due to Covid except the more expensive places.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on December 24, 2020, 10:58:41 AM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...


Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where

I have asked the chicas and I have asked on this forum and all I get is a huge clinic on hwy5 going out of Sousa towards Cabarete. It’s over  $2k per person is 7X what you are quoting.

no there are much cheaper spots...you have to learn how to question the chicas. think about it..it's a way you must talk to them. Guys on this board that have been going the for a while know what I'm talking about....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 24, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
The ones with limited english.  May not under stand you  but on of my massage  girl /semi pro gos to me say s get tested was ready for raw dog !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on December 26, 2020, 07:39:57 AM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...


Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where

I have asked the chicas and I have asked on this forum and all I get is a huge clinic on hwy5 going out of Sousa towards Cabarete. It’s over  $2k per person is 7X what you are quoting.

no there are much cheaper spots...you have to learn how to question the chicas. think about it..it's a way you must talk to them. Guys on this board that have been going the for a while know what I'm talking about....

You say there are much cheaper spots but you don’t/can’t say where they are?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 26, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
Man, you all are raw dawging like that?  ????  Have at it.

Yoooouuuurrrrr missing ouuuutttttt........ ;)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/11VGdsHTrpS7FS/giphy.gif)
Funny you know horny thirsty dudes are jumping on big booty fat chicas like that horny dolphin   lmfao!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on December 26, 2020, 03:13:43 PM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...


Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where

I have asked the chicas and I have asked on this forum and all I get is a huge clinic on hwy5 going out of Sousa towards Cabarete. It’s over  $2k per person is 7X what you are quoting.

no there are much cheaper spots...you have to learn how to question the chicas. think about it..it's a way you must talk to them. Guys on this board that have been going the for a while know what I'm talking about....

You say there are much cheaper spots but you don’t/can’t say where they are?

I need you to learn and stop being lazy that is how guys get ripped off out there.....so please read my message again and put in some effort on your own...BE A MAN
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on December 30, 2020, 08:10:14 AM
I agree it' better without, but only with certain regulars. They know I have had a vasectomy. When come down for the winter I ask for clinical report they are clean. In Puerto Plata they can get tested for free, in Sosua it costs them 300 pesos.

Where in Sousa can I take a chica to be tested for 300 pesos? Thanks in advance...


Ask the chica they would know.....trust me everyone is barebacking.....they all know where

I have asked the chicas and I have asked on this forum and all I get is a huge clinic on hwy5 going out of Sousa towards Cabarete. It’s over  $2k per person is 7X what you are quoting.

no there are much cheaper spots...you have to learn how to question the chicas. think about it..it's a way you must talk to them. Guys on this board that have been going the for a while know what I'm talking about....

You say there are much cheaper spots but you don’t/can’t say where they are?

I need you to learn and stop being lazy that is how guys get ripped off out there.....so please read my message again and put in some effort on your own...BE A MAN

Another keyboard warrior with feelings of inadequacy. I have asked the chicas. Maybe I just don’t choose the ones that have to make weekly trips to the VD Clinic. Maybe there aren’t any clinics for 300 pesos is why it’s so hard to name one and you have to turn into some pseudo schoolyard bully whenever someone asks a simple question
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on December 30, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
The Brugal clinica in Puerto Plata
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on December 30, 2020, 04:31:37 PM
The Brugal clinica in Puerto Plata

Thanks Papi????????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: FireSale on January 01, 2021, 06:23:20 PM
AIDS
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on January 01, 2021, 07:24:59 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 01, 2021, 08:43:13 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.
Could you clarify a few things.  You said you were going raw with only select trusted chicas?   What does that mean, select trusted chicas?   What were you trusting them with or for?  You say they were not rats ( whatever that means ), and they werent regular hoes?   

How sure are you that 3 different women that was in Sosua infected you?   Were you going raw with any women where you come from too?    Is it a possibility that you may have been carrying the infection undetected,  just not showing signs or symptoms until your next sexual encounter?  Which happened to be in the DR?    I would assume the women in question were all advised of your dilemma, and to get checked out?   What treatment if any did they seek,  after you informed them?   

How did you become aware that the disease is rampant in Sosua now?   I find that odd that you would allow yourself to get infected 3 different times with 3 different women,  and not strap up knowing that "its everywhere" and "rampant in sosua".   Especially something you say there is no drugs in the DR or the US to cure it.  Once you got it the 1st time,  and had your 1st visit to a doctor,  that didnt inspire you to protect yourself even more?    Maybe the infection never left your system,  after the 1st time you got infected?   Thats plausible considering the DR supposedly doesnt have drugs to cure what you had.   How did it happen that 2 other women also infected you after the 1st infection?     

Again where did you learn this disease is rampant in Sosua and everywhere?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blackghost1 on January 01, 2021, 09:09:10 PM
I posted 2 threads about chicas dying of AIDS. You all are welcome to search.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on January 01, 2021, 09:10:29 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.

So what drug did they put you on that cost 5,600 USD?


Azithromycin or more commonly known as the   Z pack is often prescribed but one needs to careful with it as it can royally mess you up

Not saying it doesn't exist in Sosua because it probably does but seems like somewhat of a stretch to make the claim that it is rampant in Sosua since I doubt there is much if any testing being done for it.

As far as trusted chicas go you can pretty much count on the fact that almost none of the chicas can be trusted.   Even "your girl" is screwing around like crazy when you are not there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on January 01, 2021, 09:31:51 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.
Could you clarify a few things.  You said you were going raw with only select trusted chicas?   What does that mean, select trusted chicas?   What were you trusting them with or for?  You say they were not rats ( whatever that means ), and they werent regular hoes?   

How sure are you that 3 different women that was in Sosua infected you?   Were you going raw with any women where you come from too?    Is it a possibility that you may have been carrying the infection undetected,  just not showing signs or symptoms until your next sexual encounter?  Which happened to be in the DR?    I would assume the women in question were all advised of your dilemma, and to get checked out?   What treatment if any did they seek,  after you informed them?   

How did you become aware that the disease is rampant in Sosua now?   I find that odd that you would allow yourself to get infected 3 different times with 3 different women,  and not strap up knowing that "its everywhere" and "rampant in sosua".   Especially something you say there is no drugs in the DR or the US to cure it.  Once you got it the 1st time,  and had your 1st visit to a doctor,  that didnt inspire you to protect yourself even more?    Maybe the infection never left your system,  after the 1st time you got infected?   Thats plausible considering the DR supposedly doesnt have drugs to cure what you had.   How did it happen that 2 other women also infected you after the 1st infection?     

Again where did you learn this disease is rampant in Sosua and everywhere?

You asked a lot of questions, I'll try to answer all of them.

This was three infections over the course of years, each time I had strapped up for chicas I met on street or in bars but went rae with higher class chicas I knew and thought would be more clean due to how careful they were.  I know it was three different women because during those visits they were the only ones I went raw with and got symptoms two weeks after returning to states. 

Each time I got infected I was treated with multiple drugs and had multiple test of cures during the weeks following.  The PCR tests specifically indicate macrolide antibiotic resistant bacteria strain.  I used a combination of drugs to treat and overcome these issues.  The one I paid big money for was Omadacycline in the states and I also paid big outa pocket for Pristinamycin in the DR and it was very hard to get.

I have this knowledge that it's widespread in the DR because my DR doctor told me so.  And not often screened or tested and extraordinarily difficult to treat depending on the strain.

Many ppl are asymptomatic like you say so they spread it unknowingly.  You can research it yourself, I'm just letting you guys know to be informative. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on January 01, 2021, 10:11:53 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.

Shane you got me shaking in my boots dawg ! I need to call Papi up and let him know to abort our mission out there..the field is too hot lol jp but no really.....I have a regular now though so I should be good.....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on January 01, 2021, 10:15:49 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.
Could you clarify a few things.  You said you were going raw with only select trusted chicas?   What does that mean, select trusted chicas?   What were you trusting them with or for?  You say they were not rats ( whatever that means ), and they werent regular hoes?   

How sure are you that 3 different women that was in Sosua infected you?   Were you going raw with any women where you come from too?    Is it a possibility that you may have been carrying the infection undetected,  just not showing signs or symptoms until your next sexual encounter?  Which happened to be in the DR?    I would assume the women in question were all advised of your dilemma, and to get checked out?   What treatment if any did they seek,  after you informed them?   

How did you become aware that the disease is rampant in Sosua now?   I find that odd that you would allow yourself to get infected 3 different times with 3 different women,  and not strap up knowing that "its everywhere" and "rampant in sosua".   Especially something you say there is no drugs in the DR or the US to cure it.  Once you got it the 1st time,  and had your 1st visit to a doctor,  that didnt inspire you to protect yourself even more?    Maybe the infection never left your system,  after the 1st time you got infected?   Thats plausible considering the DR supposedly doesnt have drugs to cure what you had.   How did it happen that 2 other women also infected you after the 1st infection?     

Again where did you learn this disease is rampant in Sosua and everywhere?

You asked a lot of questions, I'll try to answer all of them.

This was three infections over the course of years, each time I had strapped up for chicas I met on street or in bars but went rae with higher class chicas I knew and thought would be more clean due to how careful they were.  I know it was three different women because during those visits they were the only ones I went raw with and got symptoms two weeks after returning to states. 

Each time I got infected I was treated with multiple drugs and had multiple test of cures during the weeks following.  The PCR tests specifically indicate macrolide antibiotic resistant bacteria strain.  I used a combination of drugs to treat and overcome these issues.  The one I paid big money for was Omadacycline in the states and I also paid big outa pocket for Pristinamycin in the DR and it was very hard to get.

I have this knowledge that it's widespread in the DR because my DR doctor told me so.  And not often screened or tested and extraordinarily difficult to treat depending on the strain.

Many ppl are asymptomatic like you say so they spread it unknowingly.  You can research it yourself, I'm just letting you guys know to be informative.

Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 01, 2021, 10:49:49 PM
I have no respect for anyone that says the sky is falling and everyone outside is going to die. Pessimism is from a diseased mind that is unable to cope with anything that they are unable to handle or accomplish. And they want to put those psychological chains around everyone else to limit them as well. To everyone like that I say, f--k you! Stay behind me and wallow in the mud with the things you belive will limit your less than life.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shane500 on January 01, 2021, 10:55:34 PM
The sky ain't falling at all, I still have a great time in the DR.  But I wear a condom now.  To each his own but nothing wrong with being informed that there's a easy to catch STD out there that's hard to treat now.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 01, 2021, 11:24:15 PM
The sky ain't falling at all, I still have a great time in the DR.  But I wear a condom now.  To each his own but nothing wrong with being informed that there's a easy to catch STD out there that's hard to treat now.
STDs have been hard to treat since lambskins were used, and after you and I are gone some weak sister will be making the same manipulative argument. Nothing wrong with being informed and I'm just saying to help you out.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 02, 2021, 11:28:49 AM
Saturday January 2, 2021

HIGH NOON it's a GHOST TOWN in Sosua.    Earliest start of a curfew I ever experienced.    Good thing though.  Before 8:30 this morning me and a buddy went to Playero to get some groceries before curfew.   Store and parking lot was virtually empty.   New Years Eve and New Year's Day the supermercados were packed. At certain times people forming a line waiting to get in the store.  I hate lines outside and having to wait on lines just to check out.

Around 11am, I drove around town to see what was still open.   Was a lot of hustle and bustle going on.  People out, trying to get some last minute things done before getting off of the street.   I would expect that there may be a grace period for transit purposes?   So no need to panic if you are not off the street exactly by 12 noon.   I guess as long as you are working your way to your destination, you are good. 

Not once did I see any type of law enforcement or AMET officers out monitoring traffic.   I may have just missed them?   One way to cope with this,  is to treat today as one of those days where it rained all damn day.   And it did rain off and on several times already.     Enough for it not to be a beach day.    After today,  we got three more 12 noon curfew days, and five more 5pm curfew days.   That is, if the authorities stick to the 10 days ( ending Jan 11, 5am ) for this modified curfew.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hunter_1 on January 02, 2021, 11:39:11 AM
Saturday January 2, 2021

  That is, if the authorities stick to the 10 days ( ending Jan 11, 5am ) for this modified curfew.   

Any word on the street if they are going to extend this draconian curfew or go back to 7 pm?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 02, 2021, 11:43:22 AM
Spot on. Went to playjero for cigars and hit the ATM around 1000 am  busy with folks getting supplies be for lock down  so sirs its 17 hour lock down till 5 am and sunday into monday. So stock up food booze  ect.  Mabey consider a good trusted  repeat !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 02, 2021, 12:23:18 PM
Saturday January 2, 2021

  That is, if the authorities stick to the 10 days ( ending Jan 11, 5am ) for this modified curfew.   

Any word on the street if they are going to extend this draconian curfew or go back to 7 pm?
Extending this current version of the curfew is a major concern of mine.  And others I'm finding out.   They got us to feel this way, because every curfew we have had, got extended.    But this holiday season is brand new, it's special circumstances.   Their reasons are somewhat expected.  Because they know how many people die every year during the holidays.  They saved a lot of lives with this curfew, even if it's non Covid related.   So we will have to see.     

Optimistically,  I really believe they will go back to the 7pm curfew with the 2 hr grace period for travel.   Why?    Because much of day to day life here has already been established, and working so far without a hitch.   Tourism, most businesses, manufacturing, farming, public transportation, are all vital to this countries economic health.   

IMO something drastic would have to happen as a health emergency to the general public,  in order for them to prolong these measures past the date they said it was over.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 02, 2021, 12:31:05 PM
Saturday January 2, 2021

  That is, if the authorities stick to the 10 days ( ending Jan 11, 5am ) for this modified curfew.   

Any word on the street if they are going to extend this draconian curfew or go back to 7 pm?
Curfews will be in place until March of deferential degrees my sources say..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 02, 2021, 12:35:31 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.
My friend got it last Super Bowl nasty , going true divorce now said same thing antibiotics kicking the shit out of him nothing working , goodluck bro nasty!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: hotsun on January 02, 2021, 02:22:34 PM
I don't judge other dudes or tell them what to do with they own dicks but I want to warn my brothers on here from my own experience... I was going raw with only select trusted chicas in sosua, no rats or regular hoes, and I caught the same thing 3 different times from 3 different chicas.  It's called Multi-Drug resistant Mycoplasma Genitalium and ain't no drugs in DR or USA to cure it.  I was on Azithro/Doxy/Moxy and all the rest, nothing cures it anymore.  And it's rampant in the Sosua area now.  Most chicas don't even know they have it but my shit burned like a mf'er each time.  I had to pay $5600 usd out of my own pocket for a non FDA approved antibiotic through my infectious disease doctor.  I'm just warning you guys...the shit is nasty and it's everywhere now. 

Laboratorio Clinico Puerto Plata is the spot in Sosua that tests for all STD's and it's directly across the street from the main police station and supermercado.  2000 for basic test and 6000 pesos for everything.  I'm sure there are cheaper clinics there but this place is trusted.  Nobody is testing for Mycoplasma unless you ask for it a s it is a DNA PCR urine test.  And it's more common than chlamydia.
My friend got it last Super Bowl nasty , going true divorce now said same thing antibiotics kicking the shit out of him nothing working , goodluck bro nasty!


shit is scaring me now. 

I was never planning on going raw (besides BBBJ). still, I am getting worry. Might have to put double rubber ..lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 02, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
All these silly anonymous troll post to manipulate weak minds. You better wear a condom or the boogie man will get you and cut your balls off! Btw it happened to my anonymous friend and he got divorced after his balls were cut off!! True lie!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on January 02, 2021, 02:49:23 PM
Are the “hotel restaurants “ like Bailees or Europa allowed to serve the hotel guests until regular closing time or has the curfew affected them also?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Buckley808 on January 02, 2021, 02:59:52 PM
Are the “hotel restaurants “ like Bailees or Europa allowed to serve the hotel guests until regular closing time or has the curfew affected them also?


I'm not in town yet but I just got a message from Casa Valeria saying that their restaurant and bar will remain open until 11pm. Hopefully the same is true for places like Bailees and Europa.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 02, 2021, 03:03:53 PM
True. And if no one attends, there's a million motos doing delivery right now. Also, people are still driving their cars around. Maybe the police are patrolling once an hour.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 02, 2021, 03:09:30 PM
True. And if no one attends, there's a million motos doing delivery right now. Also, people are still driving their cars around. Maybe the police are patrolling once an hour.

Last trip one of the regulars paid a food delivery moto to bring her to my place at 1 am. I think it cost her 200 pesos. There are definitely work arounds.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 02, 2021, 03:17:03 PM
If you staying at a hotel with a bar out street view, they will stay open at least until 11pm. A friend has an apartment very close to the Coco Hotel and drinks there most days, they are still serving to 11pm , just no music.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 02, 2021, 03:25:09 PM
Think any hotel will sever foodto guest that are  there. If you snake in they probably serve you food.  An other monger staying at an apartment was able to get breakfast at the new garden this morning. even tho he was not a guest.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 02, 2021, 04:51:18 PM
Correct,  certain hotels with restaurants will be open to their guests up until 11pm.   Plus deliveries for non guests may be available.   A short list of known hotels/restaurants would be Bailee's/Sosua Inn, Margot/Condos Margarita, Ramona's/Europa,Bourbon Street/Ahnvee , Casa Valeria & Rest, New Garden & Rest.   Not sure, but the restaurants at Alicia Beach Hotel and Terra Linda  may be open mainly for guests?  Not sure about deliveries.    If you get the number to a place,  they can arrange the delivery for you if available.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on January 02, 2021, 05:09:44 PM
Are the “hotel restaurants “ like Bailees or Europa allowed to serve the hotel guests until regular closing time or has the curfew affected them also?

As far as Europa goes,  they close the front bar and Ramonas a little before curfew.   
They have a very small back bar by the pool for hotel guests that you can continue to drink at until 11pm
You can also order food from a limited menu that you can either eat at that bar or take back to your room.

Europa also has a locked gate now and you have to be buzzed into the lobby.

I believe you must be a guest of the property to be allowed back into the area were the pool bar is and the number of chicas hanging out there is very limited


The front entrance at the Bailee restaurant is locked at all times and you must enter the restaurant near the hotel lobby.  The restaurant is available to anyone prior to curfew.





Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Sandro on January 02, 2021, 10:30:17 PM
Are the “hotel restaurants “ like Bailees or Europa allowed to serve the hotel guests until regular closing time or has the curfew affected them also?

As far as Europa goes,  they close the front bar and Ramonas a little before curfew.   
They have a very small back bar by the pool for hotel guests that you can continue to drink at until 11pm
You can also order food from a limited menu that you can either eat at that bar or take back to your room.

Europa also has a locked gate now and you have to be buzzed into the lobby.

I believe you must be a guest of the property to be allowed back into the area were the pool bar is and the number of chicas hanging out there is very limited


The front entrance at the Bailee restaurant is locked at all times and you must enter the restaurant near the hotel lobby.  The restaurant is available to anyone prior to curfew.

Happen to know if beaches and gyms are closed in the morning too?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 03, 2021, 07:20:58 AM
No, both are open...in general. The limit is the time of the curfew. Ive seen random people working out early.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mvagusta16 on January 03, 2021, 08:07:12 AM
No, both are open...in general. The limit is the time of the curfew. Ive seen random people working out early.

So your there right now?? Yes or No
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 03, 2021, 05:16:49 PM
Sunday January 3rd, 2021

A word of encouragement for those with boots on the ground in the DR.  It's already day 3 of this restrictive curfew.   The day is done,  we are now going into evening.   Tomorrow and for the next 5 days straight,  the curfew is 5pm,  with a two hour window for transit.   After this 12 noon crap, tomorrow morning it will be like being released from the dark hole of a cell , and allowed back in gen pop.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 03, 2021, 07:20:32 PM
Bingo.  Right now you can hear a pin drop  no motos nothing an occasional  cestu police truck on patrol  DR Rosesn.    This has been  Erie no nothing ,spooky quiet !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 03, 2021, 08:32:03 PM
Im seeing maybe hourly patrols, taxis, motos, occasional
cars and pedestrians after curfew. Too many people to catch all of them. I saw a pedestrian  stopped and they let him go. Ahnvee didnt have enough chicas when I visited. The fee must be scaring off customers imho
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Lurklongtime on January 03, 2021, 08:38:23 PM
Fellas serious question why do you want to vacation like this??
Under these conditions?? Im not saying give up on the Su but dam Vacation and an being released from the dark hole of a cell , and allowed back in gen pop should never be in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 03, 2021, 08:55:09 PM
The current curfew and future times cannot be predicted.
If you buy future tickets, anything can happen and will affect
your vacation...good and bad. A solution might be to stay home...but that's your decision. For me, I'm having a blast!! Much better than staying at home.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Lurklongtime on January 03, 2021, 09:19:11 PM
Well i kinda agree and disagree i understand if you had it booked in advance then you would go. But where i would push back is for the ones mostly new ppl who know there have been curfews in place and still go and complain afterwards. From the posts i keep reading everyone just goes to one spot Anhee ..I know You and the other vets move better but from what i keep seeing.. All posts are similar..people complaining about prices and where to stay close to that spot. Curfews, lack of freedom, limited time for fun . There are no more trip reports.. really.. what i read in this post was police patrols... dead zones.. pin drop quiet at night.. that is kinda sad for a vacation
Again no diss to anyone this is what i am reading on here
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on January 04, 2021, 02:45:07 PM
I posted 2 threads about chicas dying of AIDS. You all are welcome to search.

Where? I don't see them. Did a search....nothin
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DNYC on January 04, 2021, 03:08:03 PM
How is the beach during the curfew???? At 5Pm Sousa Feds come out and move er body off the beach????

Ill be there for my annual super bowl trip...looking forward to it no matter what the f--k is the case....I love the SU no matter what
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 04, 2021, 03:24:00 PM
How is the beach during the curfew???? At 5Pm Sousa Feds come out and move er body off the beach????

Ill be there for my annual super bowl trip...looking forward to it no matter what the f--k is the case....I love the SU no matter what
People love the beach! If it ain't barricaded people will always be there. It's poppin!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 04, 2021, 03:26:58 PM
All these silly anonymous troll post to manipulate weak minds. You better wear a condom or the boogie man will get you and cut your balls off! Btw it happened to my anonymous friend and he got divorced after his balls were cut off!! True lie!!
Well we can tell your not married ???? explains a lot, ya you try telling your wife brainiac why you won’t f--k her cause your dick  smells funny 6 months ? Back to your western union sexlife things aare great never been better on PC hey?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 04, 2021, 03:30:55 PM
All these silly anonymous troll post to manipulate weak minds. You better wear a condom or the boogie man will get you and cut your balls off! Btw it happened to my anonymous friend and he got divorced after his balls were cut off!! True lie!!
Well we can tell your not married ???? explains a lot, ya you try telling your wife brainiac why you won’t f--k her cause your dick  smells funny 6 months ? Back to your western union sexlife things aare great never been better on PC hey?

I’m thinking that if he was married he probably wouldn’t do some of the things he does. Who knows he might not even choose to take trips to cheat on his wife. ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 04, 2021, 03:59:26 PM
All these silly anonymous troll post to manipulate weak minds. You better wear a condom or the boogie man will get you and cut your balls off! Btw it happened to my anonymous friend and he got divorced after his balls were cut off!! True lie!!
Well we can tell your not married ???? explains a lot, ya you try telling your wife brainiac why you won’t f--k her cause your dick  smells funny 6 months ? Back to your western union sexlife things aare great never been better on PC hey?
You seem offended...when I return to the US I'll consider a better response if necessary...otherwise consider me nonplussed
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 04, 2021, 05:05:42 PM
Monday January 4, 2021    Dominican Holiday called Epiphany.   

Food stores open early.    Best time to shop for groceries.   Got it in, before the crowds.
Headed to the beach to meet some friends by 12pm.  Parking on the highway was packed with cars.     Beach already full of people.    12 to 3:45pm I saw non stop arrivals of people coming to the beach.  Tourists, locals, vendors, grooming ladies, skeleton crew of hoes,hustlers.   Just about every restaurant or bar open for business.   Lots of meals and drinks sold today.  Businesses happy.  The weather was beautiful all afternoon.  Made up big time for the weekend curfew.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 04, 2021, 05:38:18 PM
A Dominican friend form Santo Domingo has been at the Bahia in Punta Cana for the last two week. The locals with money are having a blast, great deals at the hotels for them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 04, 2021, 06:03:11 PM
Monday January 4, 2021    Dominican Holiday called Epiphany.   

Food stores open early.    Best time to shop for groceries.   Got it in, before the crowds.
Headed to the beach to meet some friends by 12pm.  Parking on the highway was packed with cars.     Beach already full of people.    12 to 3:45pm I saw non stop arrivals of people coming to the beach.  Tourists, locals, vendors, grooming ladies, skeleton crew of hoes,hustlers.   Just about every restaurant or bar open for business.   Lots of meals and drinks sold today.  Businesses happy.  The weather was beautiful all afternoon.  Made up big time for the weekend curfew.
I'd recommend to gringos to avoid the rush at Playero/Super Pola and hit the smaller grocery stores and the colmados for the same items without the crowds.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 04, 2021, 06:28:39 PM
Monday January 4, 2021    Dominican Holiday called Epiphany.   

Food stores open early.    Best time to shop for groceries.   Got it in, before the crowds.
Headed to the beach to meet some friends by 12pm.  Parking on the highway was packed with cars.     Beach already full of people.    12 to 3:45pm I saw non stop arrivals of people coming to the beach.  Tourists, locals, vendors, grooming ladies, skeleton crew of hoes,hustlers.   Just about every restaurant or bar open for business.   Lots of meals and drinks sold today.  Businesses happy.  The weather was beautiful all afternoon.  Made up big time for the weekend curfew.
I'd recommend to gringos to avoid the rush at Playero/Super Pola and hit the smaller grocery stores and the colmados for the same items without the crowds.
The colmados is a good option if one can find what they need. Like staple items.  Eggs, milk, juice, bread, etc.    The supermercados are gonna have much more variety,   as well as imported items.  Things one wont get in a smaller store. 

The easiest way to avoid crowds is to get to the store early.   I see a lot of people getting to the store at 9, 10, and 11 am  just to go food shopping.   I get to the store around 8 when there are very few people in the store.   Today,  a few customers in the Playero had their carts full to capacity.   Like they were going to be on lock down.   Fortunately for me,  the registers were not busy when I was ready to check out.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 04, 2021, 10:07:26 PM
Yeah, I was running late and hit the grocery store betwwen playero and super pola. The one on the south side of highway 5. Its like a big colmado with a hardware store in the back.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mike169 on January 04, 2021, 10:08:10 PM
And what are the current situations.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 05, 2021, 06:52:28 AM
All these silly anonymous troll post to manipulate weak minds. You better wear a condom or the boogie man will get you and cut your balls off! Btw it happened to my anonymous friend and he got divorced after his balls were cut off!! True lie!!
Well we can tell your not married ???? explains a lot, ya you try telling your wife brainiac why you won’t f--k her cause your dick  smells funny 6 months ? Back to your western union sexlife things aare great never been better on PC hey?

I’m thinking that if he was married he probably wouldn’t do some of the things he does. Who knows he might not even choose to take trips to cheat on his wife. ????
Roflmfao..dude really guess we all golfing then.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 05, 2021, 08:01:05 AM
And what are the current situations.
Can you be more specific on what current situations you are looking for?    That way everyone who has a piece of the puzzle may contribute.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 06, 2021, 04:02:00 PM
Monday January 4, 2021    Dominican Holiday called Epiphany.   

Food stores open early.    Best time to shop for groceries.   Got it in, before the crowds.
Headed to the beach to meet some friends by 12pm.  Parking on the highway was packed with cars.     Beach already full of people.    12 to 3:45pm I saw non stop arrivals of people coming to the beach.  Tourists, locals, vendors, grooming ladies, skeleton crew of hoes,hustlers.   Just about every restaurant or bar open for business.   Lots of meals and drinks sold today.  Businesses happy.  The weather was beautiful all afternoon.  Made up big time for the weekend curfew.
I'd recommend to gringos to avoid the rush at Playero/Super Pola and hit the smaller grocery stores and the colmados for the same items without the crowds.
Bingo Papi ! Was mad crazy this past Sat and sunday at playjero supermarket !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 06, 2021, 05:24:24 PM
Monday January 4, 2021    Dominican Holiday called Epiphany.   

Food stores open early.    Best time to shop for groceries.   Got it in, before the crowds.
Headed to the beach to meet some friends by 12pm.  Parking on the highway was packed with cars.     Beach already full of people.    12 to 3:45pm I saw non stop arrivals of people coming to the beach.  Tourists, locals, vendors, grooming ladies, skeleton crew of hoes,hustlers.   Just about every restaurant or bar open for business.   Lots of meals and drinks sold today.  Businesses happy.  The weather was beautiful all afternoon.  Made up big time for the weekend curfew.
I'd recommend to gringos to avoid the rush at Playero/Super Pola and hit the smaller grocery stores and the colmados for the same items without the crowds.
Bingo Papi ! Was mad crazy this past Sat and sunday at playjero supermarket !
And thankfully the beach is back to normal!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tbdguy on January 07, 2021, 09:01:33 PM
Anyone had word of curfew intentions beyond Sunday the 10th?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 08, 2021, 06:37:58 AM
Anyone had word of curfew intentions beyond Sunday the 10th?
The DR govt's intentions will be known soon enough.   I have not found anything yet confirming the intentions of the govt regarding the curfew after the 10th of Jan.   But I did read this article that was posted a few days ago in Dominican Today, which hints or suggests that the govt is still very concerned about the spread of the virus, and the general public. 

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/01/05/abinader-asks-the-population-for-a-last-effort-to-reduce-covid-19-infections/   (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/01/05/abinader-asks-the-population-for-a-last-effort-to-reduce-covid-19-infections/)

Abinader asks the population for a “last effort” to reduce Covid-19 infections


The President of the Republic, Luis Abinader, admitted last Monday that a large part of the population and the authorities are tired of the fight against Covid-19. Still, he encouraged all Dominicans to make one last effort for the health of all.

“We know that it is not easy, and I want to tell you that the country is tired. The Armed Forces and the National Police are tired, exhausted after ten months of day-to-day work … I ask the population to make another effort. There are many sectors affected. Still, we are going to make one last effort to see if we achieve a level of minor contagion, to work towards the regularization of the economy, which is what we all want,” he said.

The president acknowledged that it is not easy for his Government to tighten the confinement measures. However, he said that he has to ensure people’s health and abide by the specialists’ recommendations to reduce Covid infections -19, according to Diario Libre.

Abinader said that due to the level of contact between people at the Christmas and New Year holidays, the international press reports more contact from people, so he hopes that after the confinement, the contagion of Covid-19 will begin to decrease significantly.

My take :

FWIW,  if the govt wants to claim the "specialists" alleged suggestions are that stricter measures need to be implemented in order to protect the public,   the DR govt/president will likely continue to act accordingly if they feel it's necessary.   All they need is to plant the right seed.   

From the very beginning of lock downs,  locals, expats and stuck tourists have learned and endured.  That the state of emergency and curfew time frames/deadlines that the govt put in place arent necessarily meant to be adhered to,  to the letter.   It's done as a process of having a protocol to follow.   The time frames/deadlines are just easier ways to control the population in stages with minimal resistance.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hunter_1 on January 08, 2021, 09:28:51 AM
Anyone had word of curfew intentions beyond Sunday the 10th?

Surprised its Friday morning and still no word.  Maybe there is lot of infighting among officials....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 08, 2021, 03:15:32 PM
Friday January 8th 2021

There is a thread with this info already,  just want to add it here :

Santo Domingo, DR.

The Dominican government prepares a decree to maintain the same curfew schedule, although with the extension of one more hour to travel from Monday to Friday.

For the weekends, the Dominican Government plans to maintain mobility until 3 in the afternoon on Saturdays and Sundays.

On Monday through Friday, it is expected to include one more hour to the transit grace, which so far goes from 5 in the afternoon to 7 at night.

President Luis Abinader gave the information at a luncheon held with the directors of newspapers in the country.

https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/01/08/government-will-maintain-curfew-hours-with-extension-to-transit-grace/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/01/08/government-will-maintain-curfew-hours-with-extension-to-transit-grace/)

My Take:


My understanding is that the curfew hours are exactly the same.   Mon - Fri we have one extra hour for transit.   5pm curfew,  but 3 hours transit until 8pm.

As for the weekends.   Sat and Sun the curfew was at 12 noon, but this time they are giving us until 3pm.   If you recall,  we did not have a grace period after the 12 noon curfew

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 08, 2021, 03:34:18 PM
January 8th 2021

The curfew will remain the same and free transit will be extended


The Government reported this Friday that the curfew will remain with the same schedule and that the free transit time will be extended.

During a meeting with the directors of the media, President Luis Abinader stated that the grace of free movement would be until 3:00 in the afternoon, on Saturdays and Sundays.

While from Monday to Friday, one hour will be added to the two hours of free circulation in force so that mobility is until 8:00 at night.


https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/el-toque-de-queda-se-mantendra-igual-y-se-ampliara-el-libre-transito-CC23651641 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/el-toque-de-queda-se-mantendra-igual-y-se-ampliara-el-libre-transito-CC23651641)


My take again :   

What is confusing to me,  is that they are saying the curfew is the same, but the grace period has been extended Mon - Fri.   Then they say for the weekend that the "grace" of free movement is until 3 in the afternoon.   What they did not make clear ( as far as Im concerned ),  was if the 12 noon curfew was still in effect?  All they said was the curfew schedule was still the same. 

Only the grace period of mobility has changed.     Why is that important?   Because some businesses that may open for a few hours on the weekend,   may still close at 12 noon because of the curfew, even if there is a 3 hour grace period for mobility. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on January 08, 2021, 04:00:08 PM
January 8th 2021

The curfew will remain the same and free transit will be extended


The Government reported this Friday that the curfew will remain with the same schedule and that the free transit time will be extended.

During a meeting with the directors of the media, President Luis Abinader stated that the grace of free movement would be until 3:00 in the afternoon, on Saturdays and Sundays.

While from Monday to Friday, one hour will be added to the two hours of free circulation in force so that mobility is until 8:00 at night.


https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/el-toque-de-queda-se-mantendra-igual-y-se-ampliara-el-libre-transito-CC23651641 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/el-toque-de-queda-se-mantendra-igual-y-se-ampliara-el-libre-transito-CC23651641)


My take again :   

What is confusing to me,  is that they are saying the curfew is the same, but the grace period has been extended Mon - Fri.   Then they say for the weekend that the "grace" of free movement is until 3 in the afternoon.   What they did not make clear ( as far as Im concerned ),  was if the 12 noon curfew was still in effect?  All they said was the curfew schedule was still the same. 

Only the grace period of mobility has changed.     Why is that important?   Because some businesses that may open for a few hours on the weekend,   may still close at 12 noon because of the curfew, even if there is a 3 hour grace period for mobility.

That 12:00 pm weekend curfew is still in effect. You don’t have to hustle to get off the street until 3:00 pm, but as far as businesses are concerned, they still have to close up shop at noon.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on January 09, 2021, 12:05:12 PM
January 8th 2021

The curfew will remain the same and free transit will be extended


The Government reported this Friday that the curfew will remain with the same schedule and that the free transit time will be extended.

During a meeting with the directors of the media, President Luis Abinader stated that the grace of free movement would be until 3:00 in the afternoon, on Saturdays and Sundays.

While from Monday to Friday, one hour will be added to the two hours of free circulation in force so that mobility is until 8:00 at night.


https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/el-toque-de-queda-se-mantendra-igual-y-se-ampliara-el-libre-transito-CC23651641 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/el-toque-de-queda-se-mantendra-igual-y-se-ampliara-el-libre-transito-CC23651641)


My take again :   

What is confusing to me,  is that they are saying the curfew is the same, but the grace period has been extended Mon - Fri.   Then they say for the weekend that the "grace" of free movement is until 3 in the afternoon.   What they did not make clear ( as far as Im concerned ),  was if the 12 noon curfew was still in effect?  All they said was the curfew schedule was still the same. 

Only the grace period of mobility has changed.     Why is that important?   Because some businesses that may open for a few hours on the weekend,   may still close at 12 noon because of the curfew, even if there is a 3 hour grace period for mobility.

That 12:00 pm weekend curfew is still in effect. You don’t have to hustle to get off the street until 3:00 pm, but as far as businesses are concerned, they still have to close up shop at noon.

And if ALL businesses are closed they know that after a couple hours even the most hardcore residents and tourists will just take their asses on home. Therefore less arrests......
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 09, 2021, 03:41:36 PM
From what I saw people were still out drinking/socializing on the street. Between hourly police patrols cars, pasolas, and motos still going from here to there. Colmadoa open from the side and folks slippin in and out of hotels. Can't stop humans...from being human.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: beachparty159 on January 10, 2021, 02:37:24 AM
If everything is closed (which it will be) there is no need to roam the streets like a lifeless zombie. The police will also make certain there is no loitering with the Chica's. The grace period is for traveling alone. If I lived there or was staying for months .... all of this would amount to a inconvenience.  If I'm on vacation, I'm not paying for this much drama.
 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 10, 2021, 08:24:50 AM
In a nut shell have yours hoes in place by 12pm on the weekends.  Or  you can ship them out before the Trasit deadline !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: streeteasy on January 10, 2021, 09:26:05 AM
In a nut shell have yours hoes in place by 12pm on the weekends.  Or  you can ship them out before the Trasit deadline !

Kind of vacation is that?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 10, 2021, 11:48:41 AM
In a nut shell have yours hoes in place by 12pm on the weekends.  Or  you can ship them out before the Trasit deadline !

Kind of vacation is that?

Welcome to 2021 stay tuned....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 10, 2021, 11:59:53 AM
What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 10, 2021, 12:02:36 PM
Like I mentioned if you have to be "inside" at 3pm. It is imperative that you accomplish your vacationing...beach, snorkeling, horseback riding, malecon, BB, oceanworld, 27falls, Cabarete, Santiago, Rio San Juan visit/activity by then. Yes, you will need your own car. If youre on vaca maximize it as far as you want to enjoy. The hotels and colmados & your roster will help you in town.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 10, 2021, 12:05:20 PM
What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?
Ahnvee is open every day. Go and enjoy the restaurant bar pool and chicas. Go before the daily curfew and take the opportunity to talk to security about their protocols and do this with every hotel that has a restaurant bar pool with chicas that can walk in there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 10, 2021, 12:29:25 PM
Well said ! boils down to You go or dont go! At least if you can go your still going to get laid, Or just deal with the covide lock downs in the states and be cold and Mirseable !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 10, 2021, 12:32:42 PM
Well said ! boils down to You go or dont go! At least if you can go your still going to get laid, Or just deal with the covide lock downs in the states and be cold and Mirseable !

Lol facts
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on January 10, 2021, 12:36:07 PM
What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?

Before the holiday break we had 100-150 girls that lived on the property. They all went home for the holidays. They started coming back this weekend. We are putting more rooms online so expect that number to increase. Going into high season we will increase the girls on site and decrease the amount coming from the outside. We are currently negotiating what we can and ca not do as work arounds for these new curfew hours. Points of contention are the Weekend hours and Super Bowl Weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Germaniachantuer on January 10, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?

Before the holiday break we had 100-150 girls that lived on the property. They all went home for the holidays. They started coming back this weekend. We are putting more rooms online so expect that number to increase. Going into high season we will increase the girls on site and decrease the amount coming from the outside. We are currently negotiating what we can and ca not do as work arounds for these new curfew hours. Points of contention are the Weekend hours and Super Bowl Weekend.

Man IDC, in going down for Super Bowl weekend... and then some
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 10, 2021, 12:46:26 PM
What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?

Before the holiday break we had 100-150 girls that lived on the property. They all went home for the holidays. They started coming back this weekend. We are putting more rooms online so expect that number to increase. Going into high season we will increase the girls on site and decrease the amount coming from the outside. We are currently negotiating what we can and ca not do as work arounds for these new curfew hours. Points of contention are the Weekend hours and Super Bowl Weekend.

I ask because I come this Friday so I'm debating to roll out to BB for the weekend or just thug it out in Sosua and book a room for this upcoming weekend at Ahnvee. Decisions decisions lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: hughgrection4u on January 10, 2021, 01:07:15 PM
Will the on site restaurant at Ahnvee have to close on wknds at 12 also, or will the guests be able to order food to go & take back to their rooms throughout the day?

What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?

Before the holiday break we had 100-150 girls that lived on the property. They all went home for the holidays. They started coming back this weekend. We are putting more rooms online so expect that number to increase. Going into high season we will increase the girls on site and decrease the amount coming from the outside. We are currently negotiating what we can and ca not do as work arounds for these new curfew hours. Points of contention are the Weekend hours and Super Bowl Weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on January 10, 2021, 02:23:26 PM
Will the on site restaurant at Ahnvee have to close on wknds at 12 also, or will the guests be able to order food to go & take back to their rooms throughout the day?

What's the situation with Ahnvee? Are they still allowing chicas to come and hang before curfew or is that a done deal also?

Before the holiday break we had 100-150 girls that lived on the property. They all went home for the holidays. They started coming back this weekend. We are putting more rooms online so expect that number to increase. Going into high season we will increase the girls on site and decrease the amount coming from the outside. We are currently negotiating what we can and ca not do as work arounds for these new curfew hours. Points of contention are the Weekend hours and Super Bowl Weekend.

The restaurant will at least be open till 1am but the fast food restaurant Chiki Chula is open 24 hours every single day. Its located on the property.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2021, 02:33:09 PM
Thanks to the guys bringing up Ahnvee's status,  and thanks to Bourbon Street for giving us some feedback.    Feel free to contribute to Ahnvee's status here.   A lot of people visit this thread.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JayMillz on January 10, 2021, 03:24:35 PM
but the fast food restaurant Chiki Chula is open 24 hours every single day. Its located on the property.

I thought Chiki Chula was a donut shop.  Has that been converted to a fast food spot?

https://youtu.be/abjvMS7p61s
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on January 10, 2021, 03:56:03 PM
but the fast food restaurant Chiki Chula is open 24 hours every single day. Its located on the property.

I thought Chiki Chula was a donut shop.  Has that been converted to a fast food spot?

https://youtu.be/abjvMS7p61s

Its Donuts and Chicken Fingers. basically if you combined a Krispy Kreme and Raising Canes or for Southern guys a Zaxbys
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2021, 04:00:20 PM
but the fast food restaurant Chiki Chula is open 24 hours every single day. Its located on the property.

I thought Chiki Chula was a donut shop.  Has that been converted to a fast food spot?

https://youtu.be/abjvMS7p61s
Jay, you answered your own question with the video you supplied.   Didnt you see the menu in the video of donuts & pollo?       They had that on the menu in the video.  Donuts & Chicken sandwiches, chicken fingers and combos ( chicken, fries and drink ).   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: hughgrection4u on January 10, 2021, 05:47:51 PM
You had me at donuts. Just booked today. See you soon!

but the fast food restaurant Chiki Chula is open 24 hours every single day. Its located on the property.

I thought Chiki Chula was a donut shop.  Has that been converted to a fast food spot?

https://youtu.be/abjvMS7p61s

Its Donuts and Chicken Fingers. basically if you combined a Krispy Kreme and Raising Canes or for Southern guys a Zaxbys
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 10, 2021, 07:22:08 PM
You had me at donuts. Just booked today. See you soon!

but the fast food restaurant Chiki Chula is open 24 hours every single day. Its located on the property.

I thought Chiki Chula was a donut shop.  Has that been converted to a fast food spot?

https://youtu.be/abjvMS7p61s

Its Donuts and Chicken Fingers. basically if you combined a Krispy Kreme and Raising Canes or for Southern guys a Zaxbys

What's days are you going sir?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2021, 09:15:04 AM
It's Monday January 11, 2021   

Just got through the weekend ( Jan 9 and 10 ) very strict curfew.   Was solo the entire weekend by choice.   For me,  although it's not what Im used to,  I made the best out of what was supposed to be an uncomfortable situation.   I treated the weekend as if it had rained all day,  Saturday and Sunday.   Entertained myself in various ways.  Computer, Y tube, TV, cooking, listening to music on headphones, catching up with family and friends in the states, house cleaning, laundry , naps etc.     Come to think of it,  these are things I normally do when I am in the house, with no company.   

Now here it is Monday morning.  Day is starting off sunny,  with spring like temps so far.   Today I can go anywhere I want within reason.  But today it will be to the beach and have a nice lunch.  Fellowship with the fellas.   Since we have until 8pm to be off of the street,  I can very well arrange to have company come over to spend the night.   All I have to do later, is figure out if and who I want to come tonight?   But I dont usually make any plans until after I leave the beach.   Just in case, I meet a chick that catches my eye.   Usually,  I stick to chicks I know, cause I know what I'm getting.   

Next weekend,  we will still have the same 12 noon curfew,  but this time we'll have the extra 3 hours for transit.   Making it so we have until 3pm to be off the street.   Later today,  Im going to find out if the businesses on the beach will try to open  this coming weekend ,but just close earlier?    I'll share that info here,  if nobody else does.   

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on January 11, 2021, 10:18:44 AM
It's Monday January 11, 2021   

Just got through the weekend ( Jan 9 and 10 ) very strict curfew.   Was solo the entire weekend by choice.   For me,  although it's not what Im used to,  I made the best out of what was supposed to be an uncomfortable situation.   I treated the weekend as if it had rained all day,  Saturday and Sunday.   Entertained myself in various ways.  Computer, Y tube, TV, cooking, listening to music on headphones, catching up with family and friends in the states, house cleaning, laundry , naps etc.     Come to think of it,  these are things I normally do when I am in the house, with no company.   

Now here it is Monday morning.  Day is starting off sunny,  with spring like temps so far.   Today I can go anywhere I want within reason.  But today it will be to the beach and have a nice lunch.  Fellowship with the fellas.   Since we have until 8pm to be off of the street,  I can very well arrange to have company come over to spend the night.   All I have to do later, is figure out if and who I want to come tonight?   But I dont usually make any plans until after I leave the beach.   Just in case, I meet a chick that catches my eye.   Usually,  I stick to chicks I know, cause I know what I'm getting.   

Next weekend,  we will still have the same 12 noon curfew,  but this time we'll have the extra 3 hours for transit.   Making it so we have until 3pm to be off the street.   Later today,  Im going to find out if the businesses on the beach will try to open  this coming weekend ,but just close earlier?    I'll share that info here,  if nobody else does.   

Wow, so you spent your Saturday and Sunday, on your vacation, at a tropical island, inside on the computer, watching YouTube, TV, cooking, listening to music, house cleaning, laundry and catching up with friends and family back in the states? That’s exactly what I did this past weekend in NY. Minus the lunchtime curfew. ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JayMillz on January 11, 2021, 10:32:06 AM


Wow, so you spent your Saturday and Sunday, on your vacation, at a tropical island, inside on the computer, watching YouTube, TV, cooking, listening to music, house cleaning, laundry and catching up with friends and family back in the states? That’s exactly what I did this past weekend in NY. Minus the lunchtime curfew. ????

I think dude lives there.  So for him ... it's not a vacation; it's a lifestyle.  If you live there, one weekend doesn't mean much in the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on January 11, 2021, 11:06:06 AM


Wow, so you spent your Saturday and Sunday, on your vacation, at a tropical island, inside on the computer, watching YouTube, TV, cooking, listening to music, house cleaning, laundry and catching up with friends and family back in the states? That’s exactly what I did this past weekend in NY. Minus the lunchtime curfew. ????

I think dude lives there.  So for him ... it's not a vacation; it's a lifestyle.  If you live there, one weekend doesn't mean much in the bigger picture.

Ok, if Murano lives in the DR, then I’ll take it back, my bad. I was looking at it from a vacation point of view.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2021, 03:52:12 PM
Monday January 11, 2021 continued. 

Had lunch on the beach today.   Sun was going in and out, but overall a gorgeous day.    Beach had a decent crowd.  A mix of guys and regular tourists, sex workers ( Dominican & Haitian ), and locals enjoying the day at the beach.

Talked to one of the restaurant owners, and he said last weekend and the weekend before,  the beach was pretty much dead.  Made no sense for any body to go to the beach.  Or for any of the businesses to open since the curfew started at 12 noon. 

So I said, what about next weekend,  since extra time is allowed for transit?    He said, the 3 hours for transit may allow people to still come and hang out at the beach past the 12 noon curfew,  but the businesses on the beach will most likely be closed all day.   It's not cost effective to even bother opening up for business.   Unless the beach is officially closed,  I expect to see some folks come to the beach, bringing their own food , chairs and blankets.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 11, 2021, 05:51:52 PM
It's Monday January 11, 2021   

Just got through the weekend ( Jan 9 and 10 ) very strict curfew.   Was solo the entire weekend by choice.   For me,  although it's not what Im used to,  I made the best out of what was supposed to be an uncomfortable situation.   I treated the weekend as if it had rained all day,  Saturday and Sunday.   Entertained myself in various ways.  Computer, Y tube, TV, cooking, listening to music on headphones, catching up with family and friends in the states, house cleaning, laundry , naps etc.     Come to think of it,  these are things I normally do when I am in the house, with no company.   

Now here it is Monday morning.  Day is starting off sunny,  with spring like temps so far.   Today I can go anywhere I want within reason.  But today it will be to the beach and have a nice lunch.  Fellowship with the fellas.   Since we have until 8pm to be off of the street,  I can very well arrange to have company come over to spend the night.   All I have to do later, is figure out if and who I want to come tonight?   But I dont usually make any plans until after I leave the beach.   Just in case, I meet a chick that catches my eye.   Usually,  I stick to chicks I know, cause I know what I'm getting.   

Next weekend,  we will still have the same 12 noon curfew,  but this time we'll have the extra 3 hours for transit.   Making it so we have until 3pm to be off the street.   Later today,  Im going to find out if the businesses on the beach will try to open  this coming weekend ,but just close earlier?    I'll share that info here,  if nobody else does.   

Wow, so you spent your Saturday and Sunday, on your vacation, at a tropical island, inside on the computer, watching YouTube, TV, cooking, listening to music, house cleaning, laundry and catching up with friends and family back in the states? That’s exactly what I did this past weekend in NY. Minus the lunchtime curfew. ????
Thats what i did the first week end of the first week end curfew,, the only good  thing i had a good repaet chica for a few days,, plenty of food on hand  no worries ,  you got the three things needed for the lock down booze food and pussy! !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 11, 2021, 06:06:49 PM
The first Saturday I cursed myself for being out of town enjoying shit up until the last 30minutes and fighting traffic back to my spot. After leaving Ahnvee drunk off my ass that night I figured I had done the best thing possible and became determined to do the same thing on Sunday before being locked down with the rest of the country. I really enjoyed myself knowing the end was coming! And on Monday shit went back to normal with everyone gettingout of the house to enjoy themselves! A great experience to be sure!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 11, 2021, 09:46:09 PM
The first Saturday I cursed myself for being out of town enjoying shit up until the last 30minutes and fighting traffic back to my spot. After leaving Ahnvee drunk off my ass that night I figured I had done the best thing possible and became determined to do the same thing on Sunday before being locked down with the rest of the country. I really enjoyed myself knowing the end was coming! And on Monday shit went back to normal with everyone gettingout of the house to enjoy themselves! A great experience to be sure!

Quick question, so this Saturday with curfew starting at 3pm, let's say I'm at Ahnvee chilling and I want to leave Ahnvee and head back to my spot on Pedro, am I allowed to hop a taxi or moto to my pad without violating curfew?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 11, 2021, 09:51:48 PM
Without even sweating or having any minute parcel of apprehension. You'll be free to take one of the many cabs or motos right outside of Ahnvee and return to your spot...no matter what time it is. 9 10 11 12 1 2 or whatever time it is.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on January 12, 2021, 12:09:14 PM
The first Saturday I cursed myself for being out of town enjoying shit up until the last 30minutes and fighting traffic back to my spot. After leaving Ahnvee drunk off my ass that night I figured I had done the best thing possible and became determined to do the same thing on Sunday before being locked down with the rest of the country. I really enjoyed myself knowing the end was coming! And on Monday shit went back to normal with everyone gettingout of the house to enjoy themselves! A great experience to be sure!

Quick question, so this Saturday with curfew starting at 3pm, let's say I'm at Ahnvee chilling and I want to leave Ahnvee and head back to my spot on Pedro, am I allowed to hop a taxi or moto to my pad without violating curfew?

Curfew is at 12pm on weekends, NOT 3pm.....TWELVE NOON! Everything closes at noon, IF they opened that day at all. The extra 3 hours is for transit to wherever you are back to where you staying or gone be at for the remainder of the day. After 3pm you need to be in a taxi to make any moves...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on January 12, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
The first Saturday I cursed myself for being out of town enjoying shit up until the last 30minutes and fighting traffic back to my spot. After leaving Ahnvee drunk off my ass that night I figured I had done the best thing possible and became determined to do the same thing on Sunday before being locked down with the rest of the country. I really enjoyed myself knowing the end was coming! And on Monday shit went back to normal with everyone gettingout of the house to enjoy themselves! A great experience to be sure!

Quick question, so this Saturday with curfew starting at 3pm, let's say I'm at Ahnvee chilling and I want to leave Ahnvee and head back to my spot on Pedro, am I allowed to hop a taxi or moto to my pad without violating curfew?

Curfew is at 12pm on weekends, NOT 3pm.....TWELVE NOON! Everything closes at noon, IF they opened that day at all. The extra 3 hours is for transit to wherever you are back to where you staying or gone be at for the remainder of the day. After 3pm you need to be in a taxi to make any moves...

As long as I can leave in a cab back to my spot after twelve noon, I understand "transit" is until 3pm thanks
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on January 12, 2021, 02:57:41 PM
The first Saturday I cursed myself for being out of town enjoying shit up until the last 30minutes and fighting traffic back to my spot. After leaving Ahnvee drunk off my ass that night I figured I had done the best thing possible and became determined to do the same thing on Sunday before being locked down with the rest of the country. I really enjoyed myself knowing the end was coming! And on Monday shit went back to normal with everyone gettingout of the house to enjoy themselves! A great experience to be sure!

Quick question, so this Saturday with curfew starting at 3pm, let's say I'm at Ahnvee chilling and I want to leave Ahnvee and head back to my spot on Pedro, am I allowed to hop a taxi or moto to my pad without violating curfew?

Curfew is at 12pm on weekends, NOT 3pm.....TWELVE NOON! Everything closes at noon, IF they opened that day at all. The extra 3 hours is for transit to wherever you are back to where you staying or gone be at for the remainder of the day. After 3pm you need to be in a taxi to make any moves...

As long as I can leave in a cab back to my spot after twelve noon, I understand "transit" is until 3pm thanks

Yes just making it clear to you. If u think u gone wake up at noon and go get into something it ain't happening. Everything will be closed and you NOT getting into Ahnvee after 12pm on weekends....cab or no cab.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 12, 2021, 03:27:55 PM
The first Saturday I cursed myself for being out of town enjoying shit up until the last 30minutes and fighting traffic back to my spot. After leaving Ahnvee drunk off my ass that night I figured I had done the best thing possible and became determined to do the same thing on Sunday before being locked down with the rest of the country. I really enjoyed myself knowing the end was coming! And on Monday shit went back to normal with everyone gettingout of the house to enjoy themselves! A great experience to be sure!

Quick question, so this Saturday with curfew starting at 3pm, let's say I'm at Ahnvee chilling and I want to leave Ahnvee and head back to my spot on Pedro, am I allowed to hop a taxi or moto to my pad without violating curfew?

Curfew is at 12pm on weekends, NOT 3pm.....TWELVE NOON! Everything closes at noon, IF they opened that day at all. The extra 3 hours is for transit to wherever you are back to where you staying or gone be at for the remainder of the day. After 3pm you need to be in a taxi to make any moves...

As long as I can leave in a cab back to my spot after twelve noon, I understand "transit" is until 3pm thanks

Yes just making it clear to you. If u think u gone wake up at noon and go get into something it ain't happening. Everything will be closed and you NOT getting into Ahnvee after 12pm on weekends....cab or no cab.
Calmate Bro...You're not correct. It's the Dominican Republic. You can wake up at noon. Decide what you want to eat. Call and order, as many places are still cooking. For one, the Hotels with restaurants, Bar and a pool are still going strong and would love to include your desires as a customer. A moto/taxi can take you there for take away or as long as you're on the property...mind your business and have fun.I'm not going into details, but it is the DR and everything is enabled for spending customers. You just have to find out all the places that are available to you as a customer. You can sit, eat, drink and enjoy colocated chicas or call for your own roster for delivery  If you don't know how to manage your own affairs/desires....just talk to your security guy. He can facilitate your wishes.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 12, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
Shit just got more difficult you need negative test enter US from 26th. Good luck!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 12, 2021, 06:45:38 PM
Ok thanks for the update , now if this is real where can you get the test in sosua or any where else,, besides the hosptials  im sure there not going to want hords of tourist gloging hospitals to get a test be before residents and sick pepole  with symptoms
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on January 12, 2021, 09:50:40 PM
Shit just got more difficult you need negative test enter US from 26th. Good luck!

What ?!!! Give me the source
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 13, 2021, 09:57:54 AM
Here is the WSJ report on it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-require-covid-19-tests-for-all-international-visitors-11610472867 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-require-covid-19-tests-for-all-international-visitors-11610472867)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on January 13, 2021, 10:33:33 AM
What ?!!! Give me the source

Old news
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on January 13, 2021, 07:24:57 PM
Here is the WSJ report on it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-require-covid-19-tests-for-all-international-visitors-11610472867 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-require-covid-19-tests-for-all-international-visitors-11610472867)

papi their trying to stop us man..... WE BEEN TOO LOUD WITH OUR OPERATIONS LOL!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 13, 2021, 07:27:42 PM
Only the weak minded get stopped. Those that shouldn't,
can't and won't will always  be left behind.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: beachparty159 on January 20, 2021, 09:35:53 PM
There are a number of locations around the country (including Sosua) that give you back test results within 24 hrs for a 60-80 dollar fee. They are open to tourist as many citizens cant afford the fee, aren't mandated to take the test if not traveling. Look for the addresses and phone numbers so you can call before you go on Flip Flops you tube channel.  Stay safe.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 21, 2021, 04:52:30 PM
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-joe-biden-signs-order-requiring-all-us-arrivals-to-quarantine/a-56306920 (https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-joe-biden-signs-order-requiring-all-us-arrivals-to-quarantine/a-56306920)

Coronavirus: Joe Biden signs order requiring all US arrivals to quarantine

Anyone flying to the US will be required to present a negative coronavirus test before departing and quarantine on arrival. Biden presented the plans in a speech launching his administration's pandemic response plan.

US President Joe Biden signed a new executive order on Thursday requiring anybody flying to the US to be tested for the coronavirus before flying, and to subsequently quarantine on arrival.

It was part of 10 executive orders as well new directives and memos on the coronavirus signed by Biden as he starts his administration's campaign against the pandemic.

"In addition to wearing masks, everyone flying to the United States from another country will need to test before they get on that plane, before they depart, and quarantine when they arrive in America," said Biden.

Biden also outlined plans to ramp up vaccinations and testing, reopen schools and businesses and increase the use of masks.

"We didn't get into this mess overnight, and it will take months to turn this around," Biden warned. "Despite the best intentions we're going to face setbacks." But he declared: "To a nation waiting for action, let me be clear on this point: Help is on the way."
What are the new directives?

    Testing and mandatory quarantine for all people flying to the country
   
Mandating the wearing of masks on public transport, interstate transport and at travel hubs
    Starting a program to distribute COVID-19 vaccines through pharmacies
    Invoking the Defense Production Act to ramp up supplies of vaccines and protective equipment
    Building public vaccination centers through the Federal Emergency Management Agency
    Administering 100 million shots in Biden's first 100 days in office
    Developing guidance on safely reopening schools, colleges and childcare centers
    Improving data collection on the pandemic and schools
    Mandating stronger safety rights for workers
    Creating a new organisation to oversee increased testing
    Directing resources to hard-hit minority communities
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on January 21, 2021, 04:55:53 PM
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-joe-biden-signs-order-requiring-all-us-arrivals-to-quarantine/a-56306920 (https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-joe-biden-signs-order-requiring-all-us-arrivals-to-quarantine/a-56306920)

Coronavirus: Joe Biden signs order requiring all US arrivals to quarantine

Anyone flying to the US will be required to present a negative coronavirus test before departing and quarantine on arrival. Biden presented the plans in a speech launching his administration's pandemic response plan.

US President Joe Biden signed a new executive order on Thursday requiring anybody flying to the US to be tested for the coronavirus before flying, and to subsequently quarantine on arrival.

It was part of 10 executive orders as well new directives and memos on the coronavirus signed by Biden as he starts his administration's campaign against the pandemic.

"In addition to wearing masks, everyone flying to the United States from another country will need to test before they get on that plane, before they depart, and quarantine when they arrive in America," said Biden.

Biden also outlined plans to ramp up vaccinations and testing, reopen schools and businesses and increase the use of masks.

"We didn't get into this mess overnight, and it will take months to turn this around," Biden warned. "Despite the best intentions we're going to face setbacks." But he declared: "To a nation waiting for action, let me be clear on this point: Help is on the way."
What are the new directives?

    Testing and mandatory quarantine for all people flying to the country
   
Mandating the wearing of masks on public transport, interstate transport and at travel hubs
    Starting a program to distribute COVID-19 vaccines through pharmacies
    Invoking the Defense Production Act to ramp up supplies of vaccines and protective equipment
    Building public vaccination centers through the Federal Emergency Management Agency
    Administering 100 million shots in Biden's first 100 days in office
    Developing guidance on safely reopening schools, colleges and childcare centers
    Improving data collection on the pandemic and schools
    Mandating stronger safety rights for workers
    Creating a new organisation to oversee increased testing
    Directing resources to hard-hit minority communities

Oh oh, Papi ain’t gonna like you posting this. Lol ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 21, 2021, 05:06:13 PM
TIME TO GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER!!! THANK GOD YOU NOW HAVE SOME ONE THAT CAN DRIVE THE BUS.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 21, 2021, 05:11:47 PM


Oh oh, Papi ain’t gonna like you posting this. Lol ????
Dont be silly.  This thread is a very active thread that many visit regularly.   Hence the amount of views.  This new executive order just came out.  It's not like someone waited a week and a half to post, as if it was brand new information.   Like in that other thread.   Plus, not only is there the link to the article, the info was copied and pasted for easy viewing.   Just in case the website is down or the link disappears.    A bonus service for the brethren. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on January 21, 2021, 05:42:32 PM


Oh oh, Papi ain’t gonna like you posting this. Lol ????
Dont be silly.  This thread is a very active thread that many visit regularly.   Hence the amount of views.  This new executive order just came out.  It's not like someone waited a week and a half to post, as if it was brand new information.   Like in that other thread.   Plus, not only is there the link to the article, the info was copied and pasted for easy viewing.   Just in case the website is down or the link disappears.    A bonus service for the brethren.

Hey, in total agreement with you. Information, good or bad about Traveling to DR must be posted.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 09:11:49 AM
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/quarantine-after-international-travel-now-required-for-those-arriving-in-the-us (https://www.cntraveler.com/story/quarantine-after-international-travel-now-required-for-those-arriving-in-the-us)

My Take : 

The way this article reads.  The President gave a general statement of testing and quarantining that is going to be a requirement for international travelers arriving in the US.     So far, nothing has changed in terms of the CDC requiring a negative test result ( from all international arrivals ) in order to arrive in the US from an international flight.   That is supposed to start on January 26th.   

The 10 day quarantine guidelines are recommendations from the CDC,  for all travelers , including US Citizens and Permanent Residents arriving from an international flight.    However as you move further along,  the article states that the start of quarantining ( for international flights ) upon arrival has not yet been established, but is in the works.   Therefore not likely going to happen right away.  At least probably not on the 26th of January. 

It also brought out that it is necessary to determine what tests will be accepted from travelers, and also additional options for travelers who dont have access to getting tested from the country they are coming from. 

Basically these policies are still in development.  Some things will be implemented right away, and others ( like the quarantine guidelines ) will be forth coming.   


The preliminary out line of the Executive order on Testing and Quarantine for international travelers arriving in the US :


On his first full day in office, President Joe Biden has announced more requirements for travelers to the U.S. Aside from providing negative COVID-19 test results before boarding, all travelers coming from abroad—U.S. citizens and permanent residents included—will have to follow CDC recommendations and quarantine after international travel for 10 days upon arrival. The executive order expands on the previous administration's pre-testing policy, set to go into effect on January 26.

Anyone traveling to the States by plane “will need to test before they get onto that plane before they depart and quarantine when they arrive in America,” the president said in a press conference. The official details around the quarantine after international travel—including when it will go into effect—are under review by a number of federal agencies that deal with air travel and public health.

In the next two weeks, that pre-testing policy will also be under review by Homeland Security, Health and Human Services, Federal Aviation Administration, Transportation Security Administration, and CDC leadership. President Biden has asked the HHS and Homeland Security secretaries to take “appropriate regulatory action" as necessary, like restricting which types of COVID-19 tests are accepted, adjusting how travelers provide proof of negative results, and offering additional options for those who don't have access to testing in the country they're traveling from, the order states. The review would also address “COVID-19 vaccination, follow-up testing and symptom-monitoring, air filtration requirements, environmental decontamination standards, and contact tracing" for travelers, the executive order said.

Under the previous administration's plan, airlines are responsible for collecting and verifying test results. That could change, as during the review period, President Biden is asking the federal agencies involved to “identify agencies’ tools and mechanisms to assist travelers in complying with such policy," hopefully formalizing the policy past the boarding process.

The executive order also asks federal agencies to consider what a vaccination certificate process—like the vaccination paperwork (called an ICVP) used for yellow fever—would look like during this pandemic. Updates from the agencies will come within the next week.

This is a developing story and will be updated with more information. We’re reporting on how COVID-19 impacts travel on a daily basis. Find our latest coronavirus coverage here, or visit our complete guide to COVID-19 and travel.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 11:36:42 AM
https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/01/22/653694/gobierno-cambia-el-horario-de-toque-de-queda-por-baja-en-curva-de-contagios
 (https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/01/22/653694/gobierno-cambia-el-horario-de-toque-de-queda-por-baja-en-curva-de-contagios)
Government changes curfew schedule due to low contagion curve


Rosmery Mendez Vargas
Santo Domingo, RD.
The Dominican Government announced today a relaxation of the curfew, in view of the fact that they have seen a reduction in the contagion curve in the Dominican Republic in recent weeks.

Raquel Peña, vice president of the country and in charge of the Health Cabinet, reported that the curfew will be as follows:

From Monday to Friday from 7 at night until 5:00 in the morning. There will be a grace of free transit until 10 at night.

On Saturdays and Sundays the curfew hours will be from 5 in the afternoon to 5 in the morning, with a grace of free transit until 8 at night.

The new measures will be in operation from Wednesday, January 27 to Monday, February 8, the vice president announced.

The new provisions are contained in decree 037-21, signed by the President of the Republic, Luis Abinader.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 11:44:02 AM
Hmmm,  Ends February 8th, 2021?    Looks like a move to just attract tourists to come to the DR for Super Bowl Week.   Once again, we will see what the curfew will be after February 8th.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 22, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
Sounds great!! It's always appreciated to encourage growth for the economy.
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on January 22, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Lurklongtime on January 22, 2021, 02:33:47 PM
It does not apply  to connecting flights
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on January 22, 2021, 02:46:47 PM
It does not apply  to connecting flights

Thanks.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 04:54:49 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?
I have not read any information that quarantining applies to connecting flights.   Technically you are not exactly entering the country to stay,  just passing through.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on January 22, 2021, 05:13:03 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?
I have not read any information that quarantining applies to connecting flights.   Technically you are not exactly entering the country to stay,  just passing through.   

That is my thinking too, but with crazy Uncle Joe running the show, I thought I would ask...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 05:39:30 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?
I have not read any information that quarantining applies to connecting flights.   Technically you are not exactly entering the country to stay,  just passing through.   

That is my thinking too, but with crazy Uncle Joe running the show, I thought I would ask...
It was a valid question.   Hopefully we will all be absolutely sure very soon. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 07:14:29 PM
I do not believe this is a secret.  But I was told that the new Sports Complex in the RLD near the Cestur HQ may open soon.  Maybe as soon as February 1st.  The curfew is going to be a major problem.    I asked about the VIP section where the pool tables are?   I was told 7 pool tables are ready for use in the VIP section.   Price of VIP has not been finalized yet.   But I'm told,  the bars, the kitchen, VIP is what should be ready for the public.    If it doesnt happen as hoped,  please forgive this message.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 07:32:18 PM
Friday January 22, 2021   Playa Sosua

Chicas, chicas, chicas,   Many are back to work.  Fat asses, round asses.  Wearing the type of pants you feel you can run your debit or credit card down the crack in the back,  kind of asses.   Some hefty chicks in the mix.  And a lot of tall chicks.  5' 9 and up.     

The beach was bustling with guys in town,  and chicas in town setting up for the weekend warriors.   It's quite possible that the guys I saw know that Monday ( a DR holiday ) is the last day of not needing a negative Covid test in order to fly back to the states?       

The chicas I saw on the beach, and there were a lot compared to 2 weeks ago,  possibly will be here for upcoming Super Bowl Week.   Saw several large entourages of deer in the head lights looking dudes on the beach.   Looked like they didnt know where they wanted to go.   Local hustlers nearby trying desperately to tag along so they can get hired. 

In all honesty.   Only 10% of the chicks were newer chicks to me on the beach.   The rest of them, many looking sexy as usual, mixed in with the scrubs are the same chicks I always see in Sosua.   They just change their wardrobe and hair styles.    Nevertheless me and my buddies dont mind enjoying the show.    In the days to come, we'll see if there is an influx of chicas and guys for SBW.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 08:02:53 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/01/22/government-says-gyms-and-restaurants-will-be-able-to-operate-with-60-of-their-capacity/

GOVERNMENT says GYMS and RESTAURANTS will be able to operate with 60% of their capacity as of Jan 27th

Santo Domingo, DR

The Health Cabinet, headed and coordinated by the Vice President of the Republic Raquel Peña, ruled this Friday that gyms and places to consume food and beverages will operate at 60% of their capacity as of next Wednesday, January 27.

“It is provided that places dedicated to sports and physical exercise, such as gyms, may receive clients in their facilities up to 60% of their total capacity, in strict compliance with current health protocols,” establishes decree 37-21 promulgated today. 

In the case of restaurants and other places dedicated to offering similar services, they may not exceed six people per table, and visitors must adhere strictly to the established sanitary protocols, explained the vice president.


The tourism sector will maintain the measures implemented so far, but it is prohibited to carry out massive activities, such as parties or other similar ones, Peña explained.

Allows use of outdoor spaces

The new decree also provides that people may use open spaces outdoors, such as parks and boardwalks, for activities that do not involve crowds and always complying with the measures of distancing and use of masks.

Churches

Also, it allows the celebration of religious activities three times a week. Churches will also be able to carry out their activities without exceeding 60% of their capacity.

Inspections

The vice president indicated that to guarantee compliance with these measures, health guards and inspectors will be available in public and private spaces. At the same time, he emphasized that the use of masks and physical distancing are still mandatory.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2021, 08:38:02 PM
It's Jan 22, 2021 @ 9:30 PM

A buddy just sent me a disturbing video.   The Chinese General Merchandise store on the corner of Dr Rosen and Pedro Clisante , across from Kings is on fire.   Cant see fire,  but heavy black smoke is pouring out of the front entrance door building.   In the video the fire department is on the scene.   But it doesnt look as if they are getting to the seat of the fire inside, YET.   

Edit :  The video I watched was received 2 hrs ago by my friend.   So I hope the fire is under control by now?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on January 22, 2021, 10:36:22 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?
I have not read any information that quarantining applies to connecting flights.   Technically you are not exactly entering the country to stay,  just passing through.   

That is my thinking too, but with crazy Uncle Joe running the show, I thought I would ask...
Yet you didn't ask any questions about Trump watching live on TV as his Vice-President and family were about to be hung, huh? That's not crazy at all....lmao
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 23, 2021, 09:02:03 AM
The following are pics from the fire at the Chinese general merchandise store on calle Dr. Rosen.   The building was NOT  destroyed.  Maybe some interior damage.   Mostly smoke and water damage of merchandise.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on January 23, 2021, 01:32:02 PM
The following are pics from the fire at the Chinese general merchandise store on calle Dr. Rosen.   The building was NOT  destroyed.  Maybe some interior damage.   Mostly smoke and water damage of merchandise.

It was a hit
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on January 23, 2021, 02:12:45 PM
The following are pics from the fire at the Chinese general merchandise store on calle Dr. Rosen.   The building was NOT  destroyed.  Maybe some interior damage.   Mostly smoke and water damage of merchandise.

It was a hit
No it wasn't. It was electrical.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 23, 2021, 02:36:27 PM
Extension cords are dangerous, CHINESE ELECTRACAL GRID, LOL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 24, 2021, 11:14:17 AM
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/20/2161777/0/en/Dominican-Republic-Announces-Complimentary-COVID-19-Antigen-Testing-to-Address-New-CDC-Protocols.html (https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/20/2161777/0/en/Dominican-Republic-Announces-Complimentary-COVID-19-Antigen-Testing-to-Address-New-CDC-Protocols.html)

Another article about the DR offering free Antigen Tests to address CDC requirements.


Dominican Republic Announces Complimentary COVID-19 Antigen Testing to Address New CDC Protocols


Santo Domingo, Jan. 20, 2021 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- The Dominican Government, through the Ministry of Tourism and Public Health, has announced new country-wide measures that it will begin offering free antigen testing to all international visitors staying at a hotel to meet the new Centers for Disease Control’s travel protocols requiring travelers as of January 26, 2021 returning to the U.S. to present proof of a negative COVID-19 or antigen test prior to departure.

Beginning on January 26, these rapid tests will be administered at no cost by technical health personnel at the hotels, and the test results will be certified by the Ministry of Health. From coast-to-coast hotels around the country are well prepared to assist their guests in coordinating their appointments as well as deliver their results.

The Dominican Republic Ministry of Tourism (MITUR) highlighted that as of January 19 the current capacity of the laboratories is at 11,000 daily tests, which prioritizes attention to visitors and locals. In preparation for the forthcoming requirement over the next three weeks testing capacity will be increased by 40 percent to ensure that no traveler has issues returning to their outbound destination. At an additional cost, hotels will also offer PCR tests to all guests who request it.

“The Dominican Republic continues to be committed to offering a safe tourist experience, both for those who visit us and for all Dominicans who participate in the industry’s productive chain. For this reason, we are continuously revising the measures to offer our visitors the necessary facilities they may need to enjoy their vacation and return home with a peace of mind,” said David Collado, Minister of Tourism of the Dominican Republic.

In December 2020, MITUR announced the continuation of the free health coverage plan to March 31, 2021, for tourists arriving on commercial flights and staying at a hotel. The plan, which was originally set to cover tourists only through January 1, 2021, is effective from the moment of check-in at a hotel and covers all medical emergencies, including those caused in the event of an infection or exposure to COVID-19 while in-country, as well as this forthcoming offering of complimentary antigen testing.

This added testing offering is the most recent addition to the Responsible Tourism Recovery Plan underscoring MITUR’s commitment to excellence within the tourism industry, a driving force for the Dominican economy. With these measures, the Ministry of Tourism reaffirms its commitment to continued collaboration with the public and private sector to best ensure travelers safety as well as promote a sustainable recovery of the sector.

For more detailed protocol information visit the Traveler Information Center www.drtravelcenter.com, an interactive platform created by the Ministry of Tourism that addresses any concerns or questions travelers may have or visit MITUR’s official website  www.godominicanrepublic.com.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on January 25, 2021, 11:34:41 AM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?

A good "friend" of yours huh.....does his nickname happen to be Hoosier perhaps?? Asking for a friend...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2021, 01:51:17 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986)


Translated from Spanish :

More than 200 passengers are prevented from traveling to the US for failing to present proof of COVID-19

Those affected will have their flights rescheduled at no additional cost.
Some 250 people were prevented from traveling to the United States this Tuesday through the Cibao International Airport for not presenting the results of a negative COVID-19 test to the airlines.

The information was offered by Teófilo Gómez, general administrator of that air terminal, who explained that this figure represents 50 percent of the number of travelers who planned to leave the country in the first four flights today.

The executive said that those who were prevented from going on a trip will have their flights rescheduled at no additional cost.


Gómez recommended that all users present the results of their PCR or antigen tests, to avoid setbacks, in addition to the sample, they must complete an affidavit that the airline will give them to enter the United States.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on January 26, 2021, 04:51:48 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986)


Translated from Spanish :

More than 200 passengers are prevented from traveling to the US for failing to present proof of COVID-19

Those affected will have their flights rescheduled at no additional cost.
Some 250 people were prevented from traveling to the United States this Tuesday through the Cibao International Airport for not presenting the results of a negative COVID-19 test to the airlines.

The information was offered by Teófilo Gómez, general administrator of that air terminal, who explained that this figure represents 50 percent of the number of travelers who planned to leave the country in the first four flights today.

The executive said that those who were prevented from going on a trip will have their flights rescheduled at no additional cost.


Gómez recommended that all users present the results of their PCR or antigen tests, to avoid setbacks, in addition to the sample, they must complete an affidavit that the airline will give them to enter the United States.

I think the Airlines ought to step up and start giving out the quick 15-30 min result COVID test at the airport for passengers who have not got tested. I know the logistics of it might make it a nightmare but something needs to happen.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on January 26, 2021, 05:24:20 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986)


Translated from Spanish :

More than 200 passengers are prevented from traveling to the US for failing to present proof of COVID-19

Those affected will have their flights rescheduled at no additional cost.
Some 250 people were prevented from traveling to the United States this Tuesday through the Cibao International Airport for not presenting the results of a negative COVID-19 test to the airlines.

The information was offered by Teófilo Gómez, general administrator of that air terminal, who explained that this figure represents 50 percent of the number of travelers who planned to leave the country in the first four flights today.

The executive said that those who were prevented from going on a trip will have their flights rescheduled at no additional cost.


Gómez recommended that all users present the results of their PCR or antigen tests, to avoid setbacks, in addition to the sample, they must complete an affidavit that the airline will give them to enter the United States.

I think the Airlines ought to step up and start giving out the quick 15-30 min result COVID test at the airport for passengers who have not got tested. I know the logistics of it might make it a nightmare but something needs to happen.

Yeah how bout ...... just maybe logic take over ...

And One sits TF down somewhere before their hormones writes a check that they can’t cash, feignin for cheap DR sex w rats .... just maybe...if possible, only if possible

The desperation must be immense

HOLY SHIT Guys are in shambles
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on January 26, 2021, 05:34:35 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?

A good "friend" of yours huh.....does his nickname happen to be Hoosier perhaps?? Asking for a friend...

I came back from Thailand on Jan 1. Had surgery on my leg on Jan 2 and am currently rehabbing. Looking at going to the DR on 1 April or 1 May.  My friend is an older guy who is in Pattaya who listened to too many of my DR stories and he got fed up with farangland and wants to try it before checking out Colombia. I hope both he and me have the time of our life.

He keeps asking me if he should go to Sosua or Boca Chica. And honestly, I have decided that for myself, either.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2021, 09:21:42 PM
Boca Chica is the arm pit of Santo Domingo, any where is better.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on January 27, 2021, 12:28:15 PM
I have a question: A good friend of mine is flying from Bangkok and is scheduled to arrive at JFK on the 2nd and 3 1/2 hours later is flying to POP on the Jet Blue flight. Since he is not leaving the airport does he have to quarantine or can he go straight to his POP flight?

A good "friend" of yours huh.....does his nickname happen to be Hoosier perhaps?? Asking for a friend...

I came back from Thailand on Jan 1. Had surgery on my leg on Jan 2 and am currently rehabbing. Looking at going to the DR on 1 April or 1 May.  My friend is an older guy who is in Pattaya who listened to too many of my DR stories and he got fed up with farangland and wants to try it before checking out Colombia. I hope both he and me have the time of our life.

He keeps asking me if he should go to Sosua or Boca Chica. And honestly, I have decided that for myself, either.

If you actually value your friendship with him, please don't take him to Boca.....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 28, 2021, 07:27:05 AM
THE NEW SPORTS COMPLEX

Frank the manager there, is advising folks that they will be open on Monday.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 28, 2021, 08:44:43 AM
The new center in the so called red light Zone.  Gee they picked a shitty time to open. With all the Asinine  covide BS  Regs
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on January 28, 2021, 08:53:15 AM
Sure would be interesting if the place had several 24hr webcams!
https://www.earthcam.com/usa/louisiana/neworleans/bourbonstreet/?cam=bourbonstreet (https://www.earthcam.com/usa/louisiana/neworleans/bourbonstreet/?cam=bourbonstreet)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mr Back Shot on January 28, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
THE NEW SPORTS COMPLEX

Frank the manager there, is advising folks that they will be open on Monday.

Well that's good news considering
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 28, 2021, 04:48:37 PM
Today asked Frank what time they intend to open?   He said around noon on Monday.   He said they should be open for Super Bowl Week.    Take into consideration,  it is a very large complex.   Im sure the disco/club section WONT be open.  But the VIP spots with the pool tables should be available.  Also , Im am assuming both sports bars, and the kitchen ( in the front of the property ).   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 28, 2021, 05:49:49 PM
Wonder if this will get off there Fat Asses sitting at the Anvhee to even bother going over there ?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 02, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
Tuesday February 2, 2021 

Plenty of chicas on the beach today.  The usual vet chicas on patrol,  sprinkled with about 20 or more new to me chicas.  A lot more of a Haitiana presence as well.   As for the usual vacationing dudes, there were some but not a lot on the beach.  There were a couple of groups of young guys,  with hustlers in a frenzy trying to be of service.   

As usual you see plenty of folks on the beach who appear to be Canadians or wherever they came from here on holiday.    There werent that many single vacationing ( monger looking ) guys on the beach today.  Chicas definitely outnumbered the guys.   The chicas had that thirsty look.   Looking for clients, and making it very obvious too.   They were making more eye contact.  More smiling.   Quick to stop, and/or turn around to see if anyone was checking them out.   

Some cats probably never left Ahnvee today?    If they did, they may have went to Kings/Rumba so they could be closer to the strip.   The sun and clouds today seemed to be playing games with us.   One moment the sun is shining bright, and the next moment its cloudy and the wind was blowing, like it wanted to rain.   

2413 Sports Bar. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowgswYx6XM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowgswYx6XM) 

Went there this afternoon.   Frank the manager is there ( the guy that was in the walk thru YT video back in Sept 2020 Re: Barber TV World ).    The place looks the same like it did in the video,  except this time you see a bunch of uniformed staff members there on duty.   Security wearing the black shirts, and the wait staff wearing red shirts.  Definitely more staff than what was needed this afternoon.   Staff is comprised of Dominicans and Haitians.  Mostly Dominicans it seemed to me. 

As some of you may recall, David is also the owner of Sosua/City Lights.   So some of the employees that were with him at S/C Lights came back to work for him here at 2413 SB.   Additionally,  I saw another staff member there that used to work at Kings, and now he's working here.   Things are super slow right now.    I'd say about 20 to 25 chicas came by to check out the place,  and about the same in guys while I was there around 5pm.   Both mostly came to check out the place,  stay for 15 to 25 min and eventually rolled out. 

My group had drinks, we shared a pizza with the waitress, and I ordered the catfish fingers w/fries.   Their food menu is basic fast food.  Burgers, fries, chicken, pizza.    Oh yeah, another familiar face there, was working the kitchen.  I believe his name is Bobby.   Older looking cat that was the manager at old Rumbas back in the day.   Wears the USA flag bandana, and looks like a Hell's Angel biker. 

This place has potential.  it looks like they have enough set up, that people can have a great time there.   Right now, only the front and the VIP ( pool tables ) area seem to be set up for use.    At 630pm Frank advised me that I should pay my bill because they will be shutting down at 7pm.   Ironically the sky opened up and it rained like crazy at that moment.    Whoever was still there just stayed put hoping the rain would subside,  but it took a little longer than we expected.   

According to Frank they will be open SB Sunday.   I dont know how they are going to manage being open with a 5pm curfew on a Sunday?   Maybe he has something worked out?  Who knows.   As it stands.   Several places in town are preparing for guests to come to their venues to enjoy Super Bowl.    IMO 2413 SB is going to have a hard time competing for clients this week and the near future,  since there are other places to go that have been doing SBW for a few years, and have been where people generally go.   

BTW the chicas that stopped by 2413 SB to check out the joint,  were some of the same chicas that we always see.  Including those I saw on the beach earlier.    Same with the guys.   IMO the main problem is having a curfew.   Cant do much if you have to close down at 5pm or 7pm.    Maybe the DR may be considering a 12 midnight curfew down the road?       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 02, 2021, 08:23:03 PM
Sov Gym at Ocean Village. 

Last year before the lock down and closures,  this gym was charging 2500 pesos per month.   At the time,  I thought it was a little pricey for the DR.  Gym memberships are usually cheaper in the US.   But I broke down and joined almost 2 1/2 yrs ago.   Place is clean, plenty of cardio machines, free weights, cable machines, stretch machines etc.   Then the lock down happened, and no more gym.     

We all read online that gyms were allowed to re open months ago.  This place stayed closed even though other gyms in the area had opened up.    Sov GYM opened up yesterday, but I decided to go today to see whats what. 

They have an interesting schedule in place now.   3 monthly membership time slots.    7am to 10am for 5500 pesos.    11am to 2pm for 3500 pesos.   And 4pm to 7pm for 5500 pesos.   The 4th option is 7500 pesos per month.  That allows the member to visit during any time slot they choose.  Unlimited it says.    I was shocked by the sharp increase.   And the designated time frames of when you can come to work out.     

Then it dawned on me,  the cost of their gym membership is more than my full coverage car insurance for a year,   and more than my DR health insurance for the entire year.   My guess is that the complex lost a lot of revenue when they were closed for so long.   I could almost go with the 2nd time slot for 3500 per month.   I just dont like the idea that I have only 3 hrs to work out ( if I come at the beginning of the time slot ) and it has to be for the time slot I paid for.   

The other thing that may happen.   There could be another lock down,  with no reimbursement or compensation.    I guess I'll stick to working out on my own.   Unless I break down and buy one of the SOV gym membership packages , starting with one month.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DaManHawaii on February 03, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
So where is 2413 Sports Bar thats a new one to me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on February 03, 2021, 12:15:46 PM
So where is 2413 Sports Bar thats a new one to me.

It's part of the newly built Red Light District at the north end of Pedro Clisante.

You should go check the complex out it is quite impressive
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 03, 2021, 12:56:31 PM
So where is 2413 Sports Bar thats a new one to me.
The massive Sports Bar and entertainment complex recently built and now open in the Red Light District. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowgswYx6XM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowgswYx6XM)   Barber TV World YT video

Sosua Dominican Republic || Red Zone || 2413 Sport Bar And Disco || Nightlife Complex #sosu​ #redzone

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: DaManHawaii on February 05, 2021, 10:52:07 AM
If I was the owner of that place, every chica gets a buy one get one drink as long as they hang out an hour. Make the chicas have a reason to come.. The boys and their money will follow.  There so many easy ways to get the chicas to come and hang. Ladies specials fill bars here in the states I do not understand why it has not been used in the DR.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 05, 2021, 11:02:58 AM
Good point. Presidentes are 40pesos wholesale and that could be tacked onto the price of specialty drinks...It would be no loss to offer chicas a BOGO free deal.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on February 05, 2021, 11:43:12 AM
If I was the owner of that place, every chica gets a buy one get one drink as long as they hang out an hour. Make the chicas have a reason to come.. The boys and their money will follow.  There so many easy ways to get the chicas to come and hang. Ladies specials fill bars here in the states I do not understand why it has not been used in the DR.

That's pretty much how D Latin got so popular.
When it first opened it had very few customers every night.

Than they started giving free Presidentes away to the chicas and whamo the place got real popular in a hurry.

It really ends up being  a combo deal.  The guys go where the girls are and the girls go where the guys are plain and simple

But in the end it still needs to be a place that one enjoys going to in order to endure long term.

One can't really judge the current state of affairs in Sosua right now because the curfew is not normal circumstances.  Just have to make the best of it with limited time and choices of venues

Once things open back up and people have a choice and can stay out late without restrictions than things might be a little different.

Ultimately how one views Sosua really has more to do with whether they are a glass half full or glass half empty kinda guy.







Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 07, 2021, 08:31:22 PM
Myself and some buddies went to check out the 2413 Sports Complex today.   Everything looked good at 345pm there.    I left around 515pm.   At 545 pm got a message and a photo showing the cops were on the scene.   Frank the manager, and a chica that works there both advised me by text , that the place was shut down.   


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 06:59:10 AM
YouTuber Jendry Acosta Super Bowl Sunday footage :

Highlights :  Beach footage around closing time,  5ish. 

Later, Jendry makes it down PC, parks and walks.  He walks past Ahnvee.    I believe the Mayor had a party ( or people he is connected with ) across the street from Ahnvee.     Jendry  walks down towards 2413 Sports Bar & Disco.   Along the way, he talks to the Dominican business lady that I believe owns NYC Drink, the Family GYM, the building etc.   She's pissed because NYC Drink was closed down, but other businesses were NOT shut down at curfew.   I believe she is referring to Ahnvee and the party across from Ahnvee. 

Jendry makes it down to 2413 Sports Bar just as the police are shutting it down.   On his video he is speaking to a few people hanging outside.  According to one well known local , he says the Sports Bar paid $2000 ( probably to some LE ) so they could stay open.   It's heard in the video , that some people paid for VIP at the SB. 

Also, the owner of Kings/Rumba supposedly had his own Super Bowl party in a villa type property,  just 1 min away in Playa Chiqita just near Dulce Secreto motel.   My understanding is that they were offering free entry.  I was sent an invite to the party directly to my phone.   


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQTUNFpTKic  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQTUNFpTKic)    Jendry Acosta YT,  Super Bowl Sunday

More Beach footage by Pudo TV :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNfzbkWUwE&t=27s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNfzbkWUwE&t=27s)   Pudo TV   Super Bowl Sunday, beach action
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 07:48:26 AM
Sunday February 7th 2021

Atlanta Lights in Puerto Plata pics.   Grand Opening , Grand Closing and possible arrests of guests?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: j.smooth9 on February 08, 2021, 08:24:36 AM
Sunday February 7th 2021

Atlanta Lights in Puerto Plata pics.   Grand Opening , Grand Closing and possible arrests of guests?

Any type of nightlife looks dead until this curfew is gone. I guess I’ll have to resort to staying in my villa or hotel and bringing Chicas there after curfew
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 08, 2021, 08:48:16 AM
The cost of being The Boss!  He did it and he paid to do it! Props to Dean Cole! Even though he might have had to sleep on the floor and pay a hefty fee!

RECOJANNNN WE ARE IN "UNDER A CURFEW", THE NATIONAL POLICE SHOT "RUSHED INTO A" CLANDESTINE PARTY BEHIND MIAMI BAR IN THE MALECON OF PUERTO PLATA ... 19 MEN, 7 WOMEN FOR A TOTAL OF 26 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SLEEP ON THE FLOOR !!!! INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATOR OF SAID ESTABLISHMENT


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLAlTl-MGB5/
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: VivaLaVega on February 08, 2021, 09:01:51 AM
I have some pretty good “remember when” stories of my first day in business, but it pales to this.

I hope he can look back at this one and think what an epic opening!

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 09:08:45 AM
The cost of being The Boss!  He did it and he paid to do it! Props to Dean Cole! Even though he might have had to sleep on the floor and pay a hefty fee!

RECOJANNNN WE ARE IN "UNDER A CURFEW", THE NATIONAL POLICE SHOT "RUSHED INTO A" CLANDESTINE PARTY BEHIND MIAMI BAR IN THE MALECON OF PUERTO PLATA ... 19 MEN, 7 WOMEN FOR A TOTAL OF 26 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SLEEP ON THE FLOOR !!!! INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATOR OF SAID ESTABLISHMENT


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLAlTl-MGB5/
According to E. Dean Cole in an audio message,  he was not one of the people arrested/detained.   The article that was sent to me ( which I posted above ) makes reference to Miami, when the issue was supposed to be with Atlanta Lights above Miami.   Moreover Club Miami was supposedly closed.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Captainsaveahoe on February 08, 2021, 09:23:16 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 08, 2021, 09:41:14 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to do with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Captainsaveahoe on February 08, 2021, 09:48:50 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 08, 2021, 09:49:41 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.

This is so mind boggling to me. I really don’t get it. People watch too many episodes of Narcos and really think you can just “pay someone” to be open. That may be true in a lot of cases and if your are going to go that route you damn well better know WHO to pay.

I’ve said this all week and I’ll repeat it again. It is so reckless to advertise that you will be open after the curfew and then proceed to collect reservations from people. It’s one of 2 things

1) You knew damn well you were not gonna be open and you are just flat out lying to people 

Or

2) You really were dumb enough to believe that you would be able to get a special permit to stay open after curfew when NOBODY else in the entire country is able to do that. Multiply your stupidity by 10 if you actually gave money to a police or other official other than the President or a member of his Cabinet.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 08, 2021, 10:02:19 AM
In the case of Atlanta Lights I would be curious to know if they were actually trying to open for clients or if they were throwing a private party for friends and family. That would be a Grey area. It’s after curfew but before the free transit time is up. You could argue that you are not open for business but rather having a private dinner on your property.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 08, 2021, 10:03:15 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.
Ok..I feel you...I wonder what, if anything was done behind the scenes beforehand to facilitate his post curfew activity. And if he wasn't arrested at his own SB party.....Does he have a zipline for quick exits when the shit hits the fan up there??? There's only one way out!
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Captainsaveahoe on February 08, 2021, 10:15:27 AM
Hahaha... Shame on me to think these guys have some "master plan" on staying open past curfew.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 11:44:18 AM
In the case of Atlanta Lights I would be curious to know if they were actually trying to open for clients or if they were throwing a private party for friends and family. That would be a Grey area. It’s after curfew but before the free transit time is up. You could argue that you are not open for business but rather having a private dinner on your property.
Excellent point!  Could have very well been a small gathering of approved guests.   I sure wasnt aware there was a Super Bowl party there.  The place from what I can see, looks very nice.   I was under the impression that he was far from being able to open for business to the general public.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on February 08, 2021, 03:29:13 PM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 03:42:09 PM
Some audios describing the Atlanta Lights incident.   If this works I will share more.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 08, 2021, 03:42:41 PM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 03:45:41 PM
One fella that describes his ordeal and perspective of how he and the others got arrested being up in Atlanta Lights.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on February 08, 2021, 03:47:34 PM
Owner.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blXYxuaiNuI&t=93s
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 03:53:07 PM
More audios from the same arrested patron that was at Atlanta Lights in PP
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 08, 2021, 03:55:06 PM
Owner.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blXYxuaiNuI&t=93s
That video was posted and discussed here a while back.   But if folks dont know who the subject is, that video helps. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 08, 2021, 03:59:36 PM
Bingo !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: wavey711 on February 08, 2021, 04:08:09 PM
Sunday February 7th 2021

Atlanta Lights in Puerto Plata pics.   Grand Opening , Grand Closing and possible arrests of guests?

Any type of nightlife looks dead until this curfew is gone. I guess I’ll have to resort to staying in my villa or hotel and bringing Chicas there after curfew

Nightlife in the Su is a wrap until the curfew is lifted if ever...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on February 08, 2021, 04:12:09 PM
Owner.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blXYxuaiNuI&t=93s
That video was posted and discussed here a while back.   But if folks dont know who the subject is, that video helps.
Yes sir. That was the reason for posting it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on February 08, 2021, 04:21:31 PM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be

Amazing.  Looks like everyone is having a really good time but damn just put on a mask every now and then. At least this was not after curfew that would have been even worse.
Hobby
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 08, 2021, 04:26:45 PM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be

Amazing.  Looks like everyone is having a really good time but damn just put on a mask every now and then. At least this was not after curfew that would have been even worse.
Hobby

Hobby, I don't think it matters if it was before or after curfew.  The reason for curfew is to limit human interaction/proximity. Doesn't matter if its before or after....we all need to stay focused on limiting that interaction/proximity. Especially if theres more than 20 people in the group.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on February 08, 2021, 06:11:31 PM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be

Lookin nice!  I missed out this year 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on February 08, 2021, 10:37:51 PM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be

Amazing.  Looks like everyone is having a really good time but damn just put on a mask every now and then. At least this was not after curfew that would have been even worse.
Hobby

Hobby, I don't think it matters if it was before or after curfew.  The reason for curfew is to limit human interaction/proximity. Doesn't matter if its before or after....we all need to stay focused on limiting that interaction/proximity. Especially if theres more than 20 people in the group.

Totally Agree.. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 09, 2021, 05:45:39 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be

Amazing.  Looks like everyone is having a really good time but damn just put on a mask every now and then. At least this was not after curfew that would have been even worse.
Hobby

Sirs it boils down to every one is sick of the masks, curfews lock downs,,,and think most folks are like   a go f--k your self to any covide nanny police or official,,,  Same goes for the Asshole Govoners, and DR Fauci !is in order !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on February 09, 2021, 10:26:14 AM
Sunday February 7th 2021

Atlanta Lights in Puerto Plata pics.   Grand Opening , Grand Closing and possible arrests of guests?

Imagine if you one of these poor saps and your mug is plastered all over the internet of you being locked up while chasing whores in the Dominican Republic.....lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on February 09, 2021, 10:44:45 AM
Sunday February 7th 2021

Atlanta Lights in Puerto Plata pics.   Grand Opening , Grand Closing and possible arrests of guests?

Imagine if you one of these poor saps and your mug is plastered all over the internet of you being locked up while chasing whores in the Dominican Republic.....lol








Hilarious!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on February 10, 2021, 12:31:52 AM
I try to get information on this site and also provide my experiences.  But one thing I've grown to understand is you can not teach common sense!!!  Why would anyone think they can be out past curfew and not on a resort??  Every bar in Puerto Plata is closed but some new BLACK American just opens a bar and thinks you can break curfew??   And yes i emphasized BLACK because it is important. Sometimes when i hear about these things i think these guys have a master plan and maybe greased someone palms or something that is just bigger than me.  But I see it is not the case and they just don't have common sense.
If you really think about it.  His color has nothing to do with his actions or theirs/the government.  It might be important to you...but that has nothing to do with what transpired. If a man wants to transgress...that's just on him and his desires. Color has nothing to due with it.  Just like claiming a Jew/Chinaman/Nigerian is only out to make money.  Everyone wants to make money and some are focused with their desires.

Papi i am not saying it happened because of his color because I know it would have happened to anyone don't matter the color.  But i do think foreigners especially black Americans have an extra target.  But i don't want to hijack the thread and talk about race.  I just think it was pretty dumb to think they could stay open past curfew.

This is reckless behavior.  A business owner risks the safety of the clients just to be opened one night for superbowl.  No matter what his ethnicity, it is pure reckless.  Why do that when you know if could cause problems whether it be a private party or not.  Even if the owner did pay off some people why take a chance. This move is stupid, crass and all around dumb.
Apparently you haven't seen the video of the "maskless" Sosua beach party!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppk7zZHiww&feature=youtu.be

Amazing.  Looks like everyone is having a really good time but damn just put on a mask every now and then. At least this was not after curfew that would have been even worse.
Hobby

Sirs it boils down to every one is sick of the masks, curfews lock downs,,,and think most folks are like   a go f--k your self to any covide nanny police or official,,,  Same goes for the Asshole Govoners, and DR Fauci !is in order !

I understand the anxiety from people that want to party but this virus is not going anywhere soon.  Which is more important chasing chicas or try to prevent a spread of a deadly virus.  I am sick of the masks too but at this point I understand why a country would take precautions.  Its very reasonable to say the least...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on February 10, 2021, 01:25:49 AM



I understand the anxiety from people that want to party but this virus is not going anywhere soon.  Which is more important: chasing chicas or try to prevent a spread of a deadly virus?  I am sick of the masks too but at this point, I understand why a country would take precautions.  It's very reasonable, to say the least...

Your statement assumes that wearing masks and physically distancing actually works to prevent the virus, which, I'm not convinced does anymore.

Health officials have now admitted this virus has the same death rate as seasonal flu. Why is it that we didn't lockdown for the flu?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on February 10, 2021, 01:49:06 AM



I understand the anxiety from people that want to party but this virus is not going anywhere soon.  Which is more important: chasing chicas or try to prevent a spread of a deadly virus?  I am sick of the masks too but at this point, I understand why a country would take precautions.  It's very reasonable, to say the least...

Your statement assumes that wearing masks and physically distancing actually works to prevent the virus, which, I'm not convinced does anymore.

Health officials have now admitted this virus has the same death rate as seasonal flu. Why is it that we didn't lockdown for the flu?
I haven't heard that. What Health officials said that?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on February 10, 2021, 02:17:21 AM



I understand the anxiety from people that want to party but this virus is not going anywhere soon.  Which is more important: chasing chicas or try to prevent a spread of a deadly virus?  I am sick of the masks too but at this point, I understand why a country would take precautions.  It's very reasonable, to say the least...

Your statement assumes that wearing masks and physically distancing actually works to prevent the virus, which, I'm not convinced does anymore.

Health officials have now admitted this virus has the same death rate as seasonal flu. Why is it that we didn't lockdown for the flu?
I haven't heard that. What Health officials said that?

Agree, what health official said that.. The flu kills roughly 20,00 people per year (in usa) and that is with no lockdown.  COVID has killed 470,000 this past year with a huge lockdown and other precautions.  There is no comparison.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Captainsaveahoe on February 10, 2021, 06:39:43 AM
Have you ever heard hospitals at overcapacity because of the flu?  The conspiracy theories need to stop. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on February 10, 2021, 06:57:31 AM



I understand the anxiety from people that want to party but this virus is not going anywhere soon.  Which is more important: chasing chicas or try to prevent a spread of a deadly virus?  I am sick of the masks too but at this point, I understand why a country would take precautions.  It's very reasonable, to say the least...

Your statement assumes that wearing masks and physically distancing actually works to prevent the virus, which, I'm not convinced does anymore.

Health officials have now admitted this virus has the same death rate as seasonal flu. Why is it that we didn't lockdown for the flu?

Same death rate as the flu??? What health officials?? Sources?? Links??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on February 10, 2021, 12:14:07 PM
Have you ever heard hospitals at overcapacity because of the flu?  The conspiracy theories need to stop.
Unfortunately, they will never stop. When a man has 89 Million followers on Twitter and lies every day to them, you get what we got.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Stonewall on February 10, 2021, 12:21:00 PM
Have you ever heard hospitals at overcapacity because of the flu?  The conspiracy theories need to stop.

LMAO

Man, It is a religion.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 10, 2021, 12:52:40 PM



I understand the anxiety from people that want to party but this virus is not going anywhere soon.  Which is more important: chasing chicas or try to prevent a spread of a deadly virus?  I am sick of the masks too but at this point, I understand why a country would take precautions.  It's very reasonable, to say the least...

Health officials have now admitted this virus has the same death rate as seasonal flu. Why is it that we didn't lockdown for the flu?

You got a link to back up this claim?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2021, 02:28:14 PM
So whats the story today regarding Atlanta Lights restaurant?   Is it open/closed, what?   Staying open beyond curfew is a serious offense.  Not something I would think the authorities are taking lightly.   

An audio of EDC offering a response.   A whack one at that. 


A reply from one of the patrons arrested.   Apparently still upset over what happened. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 10, 2021, 03:26:08 PM
So whats the story today regarding Atlanta Lights restaurant?   Is it open/closed, what?   Staying open beyond curfew is a serious offense.  Not something I would think the authorities are taking lightly.   

An audio of EDC offering a response.   A whack one at that. 


A reply from one of the patrons arrested.   Apparently still upset over what happened.

Not sure what to do to open these... Gotta Mac and iPhone.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 10, 2021, 03:28:12 PM
How to Play Ogg on Mac
Download the Xiph Ogg Quicktime Component.
Double click the . dmg.
Inside, you'll find a file called the XiphQT. component. ...
Find the OGG file in your iTunes library. ...
Highlight the Ogg file and press “play”
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 10, 2021, 03:29:38 PM
How to Play Ogg on Mac
Download the Xiph Ogg Quicktime Component.
Double click the . dmg.
Inside, you'll find a file called the XiphQT. component. ...
Find the OGG file in your iTunes library. ...
Highlight the Ogg file and press “play”

Thanks... Gotta go find a teenager to translate.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2021, 03:43:00 PM
How to Play Ogg on Mac
Download the Xiph Ogg Quicktime Component.
Double click the . dmg.
Inside, you'll find a file called the XiphQT. component. ...
Find the OGG file in your iTunes library. ...
Highlight the Ogg file and press “play”

Thanks... Gotta go find a teenager to translate.
I may have converted it to mp3.   Let me know if it works.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2021, 03:50:41 PM
All previously posted Atlanta Lights Audios in mp3 format.   If they dont work, let me know? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 10, 2021, 03:56:03 PM
Not techy so Papi's guide was another language for me... But this sorcery happened.... I could not download it on the laptop for whatever reason, so i tried on the phone, but i could not find where it would be downloaded. And then, as i was downloading from the phone the files popped up on the laptop finder! What kind of wizardry is this?

That aside... Now i have listened... Buddy is f--ked.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2021, 04:13:23 PM
Not techy so Papi's guide was another language for me... But this sorcery happened.... I could not download it on the laptop for whatever reason, so i tried on the phone, but i could not find where it would be downloaded. And then, as i was downloading from the phone the files popped up on the laptop finder! What kind of wizardry is this?

That aside... Now i have listened... Buddy is f--ked.
I take it you were able to download and listen before I converted all of those files to mp3?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 10, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
Not techy so Papi's guide was another language for me... But this sorcery happened.... I could not download it on the laptop for whatever reason, so i tried on the phone, but i could not find where it would be downloaded. And then, as i was downloading from the phone the files popped up on the laptop finder! What kind of wizardry is this?

That aside... Now i have listened... Buddy is f--ked.
I take it you were able to download and listen before I converted all of those files to mp3?

Yes... But thanks for the extra mile! I tried yesterday and then did not bother again until the extra clips showed up.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on February 10, 2021, 05:00:44 PM
The only thing you need to takeaway from this is cole is all the way f--ked.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2021, 06:14:28 PM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on February 10, 2021, 07:21:19 PM
The only thing you need to takeaway from this is cole is all the way f--ked.

Facts. Period
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: lazy_monger on February 10, 2021, 08:34:10 PM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Not a good look.  How did HE manage to not go to jail?  If this were my business, I would have tried my best to keep my patrons and employees out of jail even if it meant my going to jail. Bailing me out after I spent a night in a Dominican jail does not even come close to rectifying the situation.  While it may have opened him up to future extortion, he should have done all he could to keep them dudes out of jail.  If your patrons who are on a short weekend trip spend a night in jail because of your incompetence then no amount of "explanation" is going to be good enough.  Where is his lawyer?  He should have a lawyer that is connected enough in the Puerto Plata that he can call that can give him more options than just coming down the next day and paying for their release after they spent a night in a filthy jail.  Anybody can do that.  Never understood people who jump into the deep end in a foreign country without building the necessary relationships to navigate the trickier parts of running a business. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 10, 2021, 08:53:29 PM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Not a good look.  How did HE manage to not go to jail?  If this were my business, I would have tried my best to keep my patrons and employees out of jail even if it meant my going to jail. Bailing me out after I spent a night in a Dominican jail does not even come close to rectifying the situation.  While it may have opened him up to future extortion, he should have done all he could to keep them dudes out of jail.  If your patrons who are on a short weekend trip spend a night in jail because of your incompetence then no amount of "explanation" is going to be good enough.  Where is his lawyer?  He should have a lawyer that is connected enough in the Puerto Plata that he can call that can give him more options than just coming down the next day and paying for their release after they spent a night in a filthy jail.  Anybody can do that.  Never understood people who jump into the deep end in a foreign country without building the necessary relationships to navigate the trickier parts of running a business.

In his defense, he really was a victim of unfortunate circumstances and location. I was told in advance that there would be zero tolerance on Super Bowl Sunday. The reason for this is Dominican Baseball. They had just completed their equivalent of the Dominican World Series, AND either the night before or 2 nights before the Dominican National Baseball team was playing I believe Puerto Rico in the Carribean Series or some huge baseball event for the carribean. Dominican businesses begged for permission to be able to stay open and show those games and the government responded with a resounding NO. Not only that, the police took to the streets and arrested people for celebrating. Fast forward to the Super Bowl. Dominicans in general but men in particular were like f--k no. If we were not allowed to watch our games and celebrate then we damn sure not gonna let Americans come to our country and violate curfew to watch a football game. They police were extra hype about this. What happened to Atlanta Lights was Supposed to happen at 2413 Sports Bar. Everyone inside was supposed to be arrested and taken to jail. That didn’t happen because Willy told them not to but the police had orders to arrest everyone inside. Atlanta Lights is located in Puerto Plata and the Mayor of that town doesn’t give 2 f--ks about arresting a group of African Americans because the dont move the needle in that town. As a matter of fact it was a way to appease the locals and show that they were even willing to arrest tourists for violating curfew over a sporting event. Same violation, two different cities, two different mayors, 2 different results.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 285West on February 10, 2021, 09:11:49 PM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Not a good look.  How did HE manage to not go to jail?  If this were my business, I would have tried my best to keep my patrons and employees out of jail even if it meant my going to jail. Bailing me out after I spent a night in a Dominican jail does not even come close to rectifying the situation.  While it may have opened him up to future extortion, he should have done all he could to keep them dudes out of jail.  If your patrons who are on a short weekend trip spend a night in jail because of your incompetence then no amount of "explanation" is going to be good enough.  Where is his lawyer?  He should have a lawyer that is connected enough in the Puerto Plata that he can call that can give him more options than just coming down the next day and paying for their release after they spent a night in a filthy jail.  Anybody can do that.  Never understood people who jump into the deep end in a foreign country without building the necessary relationships to navigate the trickier parts of running a business.

In his defense, he really was a victim of unfortunate circumstances and location. I was told in advance that there would be zero tolerance on Super Bowl Sunday. The reason for this is Dominican Baseball. They had just completed their equivalent of the Dominican World Series, AND either the night before or 2 nights before the Dominican National Baseball team was playing I believe Puerto Rico in the Carribean Series or some huge baseball event for the carribean. Dominican businesses begged for permission to be able to stay open and show those games and the government responded with a resounding NO. Not only that, the police took to the streets and arrested people for celebrating. Fast forward to the Super Bowl. Dominicans in general but men in particular were like f--k no. If we were not allowed to watch our games and celebrate then we damn sure not gonna let Americans come to our country and violate curfew to watch a football game. They police were extra hype about this. What happened to Atlanta Lights was Supposed to happen at 2413 Sports Bar. Everyone inside was supposed to be arrested and taken to jail. That didn’t happen because Willy told them not to but the police had orders to arrest everyone inside. Atlanta Lights is located in Puerto Plata and the Mayor of that town doesn’t give 2 f--ks about arresting a group of African Americans because the dont move the needle in that town. As a matter of fact it was a way to appease the locals and show that they were even willing to arrest tourists for violating curfew over a sporting event. Same violation, two different cities, two different mayors, 2 different results.

Bourbon make the last point on there your first point.  You n----s play to much I am about the business.  Keep the shit real stop playing that n---- was over when he was making videos from Amhvee.  Tell the truth Bourbon since you talking how we're the elites in Puerto Plata really feeling about him.  If he was a real boss, them n----s would never be down that long.   They playing with him making that n---- bail him out pretending he got some light... Tell the truth if you really going to be honest.  Bourbon how many Dominican business men from Pop in your spot making Instagram videos, you all need to stop playing...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: lazy_monger on February 10, 2021, 09:17:53 PM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Not a good look.  How did HE manage to not go to jail?  If this were my business, I would have tried my best to keep my patrons and employees out of jail even if it meant my going to jail. Bailing me out after I spent a night in a Dominican jail does not even come close to rectifying the situation.  While it may have opened him up to future extortion, he should have done all he could to keep them dudes out of jail.  If your patrons who are on a short weekend trip spend a night in jail because of your incompetence then no amount of "explanation" is going to be good enough.  Where is his lawyer?  He should have a lawyer that is connected enough in the Puerto Plata that he can call that can give him more options than just coming down the next day and paying for their release after they spent a night in a filthy jail.  Anybody can do that.  Never understood people who jump into the deep end in a foreign country without building the necessary relationships to navigate the trickier parts of running a business.

In his defense, he really was a victim of unfortunate circumstances and location. I was told in advance that there would be zero tolerance on Super Bowl Sunday. The reason for this is Dominican Baseball. They had just completed their equivalent of the Dominican World Series, AND either the night before or 2 nights before the Dominican National Baseball team was playing I believe Puerto Rico in the Carribean Series or some huge baseball event for the carribean. Dominican businesses begged for permission to be able to stay open and show those games and the government responded with a resounding NO. Not only that, the police took to the streets and arrested people for celebrating. Fast forward to the Super Bowl. Dominicans in general but men in particular were like f--k no. If we were not allowed to watch our games and celebrate then we damn sure not gonna let Americans come to our country and violate curfew to watch a football game. They police were extra hype about this. What happened to Atlanta Lights was Supposed to happen at 2413 Sports Bar. Everyone inside was supposed to be arrested and taken to jail. That didn’t happen because Willy told them not to but the police had orders to arrest everyone inside. Atlanta Lights is located in Puerto Plata and the Mayor of that town doesn’t give 2 f--ks about arresting a group of African Americans because the dont move the needle in that town. As a matter of fact it was a way to appease the locals and show that they were even willing to arrest tourists for violating curfew over a sporting event. Same violation, two different cities, two different mayors, 2 different results.

I respect your empathy for him but if he is going to be successful in this endeavour he has to be better prepared for doing business there.  In his explanation, he sounded like a dude caught of guard.  You knew exactly what was going on and he needs to get to that point as well.  I am not ragging on dude but as someone who has had to deal with the logistics of running a business in a foreign country that was nowhere as involved or visible as a restaurant or a hotel, dude need to be better prepared for the eventualities that WILL come up.  As someone in Costa Rica told me "we are happy to take money from gringos who think they know everything."
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on February 10, 2021, 11:31:55 PM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Not a good look.  How did HE manage to not go to jail?  If this were my business, I would have tried my best to keep my patrons and employees out of jail even if it meant my going to jail. Bailing me out after I spent a night in a Dominican jail does not even come close to rectifying the situation.  While it may have opened him up to future extortion, he should have done all he could to keep them dudes out of jail.  If your patrons who are on a short weekend trip spend a night in jail because of your incompetence then no amount of "explanation" is going to be good enough.  Where is his lawyer?  He should have a lawyer that is connected enough in the Puerto Plata that he can call that can give him more options than just coming down the next day and paying for their release after they spent a night in a filthy jail.  Anybody can do that.  Never understood people who jump into the deep end in a foreign country without building the necessary relationships to navigate the trickier parts of running a business.

In his defense, he really was a victim of unfortunate circumstances and location. I was told in advance that there would be zero tolerance on Super Bowl Sunday. The reason for this is Dominican Baseball. They had just completed their equivalent of the Dominican World Series, AND either the night before or 2 nights before the Dominican National Baseball team was playing I believe Puerto Rico in the Carribean Series or some huge baseball event for the carribean. Dominican businesses begged for permission to be able to stay open and show those games and the government responded with a resounding NO. Not only that, the police took to the streets and arrested people for celebrating. Fast forward to the Super Bowl. Dominicans in general but men in particular were like f--k no. If we were not allowed to watch our games and celebrate then we damn sure not gonna let Americans come to our country and violate curfew to watch a football game. They police were extra hype about this. What happened to Atlanta Lights was Supposed to happen at 2413 Sports Bar. Everyone inside was supposed to be arrested and taken to jail. That didn’t happen because Willy told them not to but the police had orders to arrest everyone inside. Atlanta Lights is located in Puerto Plata and the Mayor of that town doesn’t give 2 f--ks about arresting a group of African Americans because the dont move the needle in that town. As a matter of fact it was a way to appease the locals and show that they were even willing to arrest tourists for violating curfew over a sporting event. Same violation, two different cities, two different mayors, 2 different results.

Boubron, much respect to you but "victim of unfortunate circumstances and location".  The guy did everything wrong that he could have done wrong.  Where was Dean and his lawyer when all this went down so the patrons did not have to spend 15 hours in a pissy jail?  How clear was it really that his place is separate from Miami Bar? I heard one audio where the guy says we were leaving soon-yea right, why be there right at cut off time if you are not a resort with permission to be open.  I was obviously not there but brothas saying "we were leaving soon" is like a woman saying "I'll be a few more more minutes to get ready" if anyone believes that then they are crazy.  I can assure you every dude in there wanted another "henny" for the road.  Why take the overall chance on this, just open in the afternoon on another day.  I know it was superbowl but he is a gringo in another country acting like he can do whatever he wants-not a good look. He should have known Puerto Plata had a different mayor and the different circumstances. Another audio the guy states "I may have to speak to my lawyer".  This is really not a good thing.  Answer me this everyone-if you are in Sosua next week (under the same curfew situation) and his place is open would you be there at 7:30 in the evening because Dean said it was ok? 
This entire situation is a mess-go on vacation and listen to another brotha (not trying to beat him down because he is black but everyone knows what I mean) tell you everything is alright even though you know the rules.   THIS TOTAL SITUATION IS RIDICULOUS.

Hobby
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 11, 2021, 08:31:50 AM
I believe I missed posting this mp3 audio that i converted

Not a good look.  How did HE manage to not go to jail?  If this were my business, I would have tried my best to keep my patrons and employees out of jail even if it meant my going to jail. Bailing me out after I spent a night in a Dominican jail does not even come close to rectifying the situation.  While it may have opened him up to future extortion, he should have done all he could to keep them dudes out of jail.  If your patrons who are on a short weekend trip spend a night in jail because of your incompetence then no amount of "explanation" is going to be good enough.  Where is his lawyer?  He should have a lawyer that is connected enough in the Puerto Plata that he can call that can give him more options than just coming down the next day and paying for their release after they spent a night in a filthy jail.  Anybody can do that.  Never understood people who jump into the deep end in a foreign country without building the necessary relationships to navigate the trickier parts of running a business.

In his defense, he really was a victim of unfortunate circumstances and location. I was told in advance that there would be zero tolerance on Super Bowl Sunday. The reason for this is Dominican Baseball. They had just completed their equivalent of the Dominican World Series, AND either the night before or 2 nights before the Dominican National Baseball team was playing I believe Puerto Rico in the Carribean Series or some huge baseball event for the carribean. Dominican businesses begged for permission to be able to stay open and show those games and the government responded with a resounding NO. Not only that, the police took to the streets and arrested people for celebrating. Fast forward to the Super Bowl. Dominicans in general but men in particular were like f--k no. If we were not allowed to watch our games and celebrate then we damn sure not gonna let Americans come to our country and violate curfew to watch a football game. They police were extra hype about this. What happened to Atlanta Lights was Supposed to happen at 2413 Sports Bar. Everyone inside was supposed to be arrested and taken to jail. That didn’t happen because Willy told them not to but the police had orders to arrest everyone inside. Atlanta Lights is located in Puerto Plata and the Mayor of that town doesn’t give 2 f--ks about arresting a group of African Americans because the dont move the needle in that town. As a matter of fact it was a way to appease the locals and show that they were even willing to arrest tourists for violating curfew over a sporting event. Same violation, two different cities, two different mayors, 2 different results.

Boubron, much respect to you but "victim of unfortunate circumstances and location".  The guy did everything wrong that he could have done wrong.  Where was Dean and his lawyer when all this went down so the patrons did not have to spend 15 hours in a pissy jail?  How clear was it really that his place is separate from Miami Bar? I heard one audio where the guy says we were leaving soon-yea right, why be there right at cut off time if you are not a resort with permission to be open.  I was obviously not there but brothas saying "we were leaving soon" is like a woman saying "I'll be a few more more minutes to get ready" if anyone believes that then they are crazy.  I can assure you every dude in there wanted another "henny" for the road.  Why take the overall chance on this, just open in the afternoon on another day.  I know it was superbowl but he is a gringo in another country acting like he can do whatever he wants-not a good look. He should have known Puerto Plata had a different mayor and the different circumstances. Another audio the guy states "I may have to speak to my lawyer".  This is really not a good thing.  Answer me this everyone-if you are in Sosua next week (under the same curfew situation) and his place is open would you be there at 7:30 in the evening because Dean said it was ok? 
This entire situation is a mess-go on vacation and listen to another brotha (not trying to beat him down because he is black but everyone knows what I mean) tell you everything is alright even though you know the rules.   THIS TOTAL SITUATION IS RIDICULOUS.

Hobby


I totally understand your point and I agree with everything you are saying. The reason I said that he was a victim of circumstances and location is because the new sports complex 2413 did the EXACT same thing. They told patrons that they had a special permission, they had people in there after curfew, the police showed up in force to close the place. The only difference is that at Atlanta Lights they took people to Jail and at 2413 they didn’t. Had they arrested everyone in 2413 it would have been the biggest Covid related arrest story since the start of the pandemic.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2021, 08:43:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrlyRZGgFs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrlyRZGgFs&feature=youtu.be)

Well E. Dean Cole states his case.  IMO basically making himself out to be a victim.  His damage control audio message that I posted isnt much different than this YT video,  just a more elaborate form of deflection and distortion from the most important issues. 

THE CURFEW started at 5pm.  That means your customers should be out of there at 5pm.  Not ordering food for take out, or trying to still pay a bill.   I notice when he got to the part of playing the audio of one guy,  he cut off the part where the guy was about to say that EDC made an announcement that he had permission to stay open longer until 7:30pm.   He made sure that part did not play.   According to the one guy in the audios I posted, EDC made his announcement about staying longer around 6:20pm

So if the place is closed at 5pm,  how do you justify patrons still in your establishment well after curfew still trying to pay a bill?    There had to be something said , or not done to get people out of there before the 5pm curfew?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: VivaLaVega on February 11, 2021, 08:56:00 AM
It’s semantics. His defense is “but we were closed” the chain was up!

As Murano says, the hidden voice was cut short when he was about to say “I wanted to go, and buddy told me to stay”.

PB will attest to what this is referred to in the club business. The front door is closed, no more patrons  coming in, but you still going.... It’s a “lock in”.

If you are not the f--king staff, and you are not f--king the staff, f--k off.

Arrogance, ignorance and inexperience put 27 people in jail that night. Curfew is curfew, 5:00 no more drinks, and the kitchen closes, ask everyone to go. It’s pretty basic and EVERYONE on this board has been in a place where they gave last call, turned on the lights, then asked you to leave. He did not do that.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
I think there may be some slightly distinct differences between 2413 SB and AL.   Yes they both violated curfew.   Yes they both told their patrons they had permission to stay open.    My understanding is that 2413 actually paid money up front to a police official, and lost mainly because the mayor got involved in sending the PN police there to shut them down.

PN police are light weights compared to the police that showed up at AL.     Where did I get that from?   The YT video that Jendry Acosta did showing the mayor ordering the PN police to move away from where they were standing in front of Ahnvee and that other party across the street, and pointing down towards NYC Drink and 2413 for them to go down there.   Within minutes if you look at the timing, they showed up at 2413 SB to close it down.   Arresting patrons apparently was not the goal, just shutting the place down.   2413 SB paying off a PN high ranking officer is one thing.  But I suspect EDC was up against a more formidable force that he wouldnt be able to escape or pay his way out from.  Not in Puerto Plata, 

I believe EDC just took matters in his own hands, and said f--k it.   Were way up here, cant nobody see us.  We close and barricade the down stairs and we can do our thang a little while longer.    If it was left up to local PN police in Sosua,  and the mayor not getting involved,  it's possible there may have been a presence or an inquiry by cops out of the loop, but a complete shut down may have been unlikely, once the right person was contacted.   

Why do I say this?   The PN police were already committed to hanging around Ahnvee, only 2 blocks away.  And the Cestur were in front of their own bldg just chilling.   For at least an hour no cops cared about or moved a muscle to shut 2413 SB down, until they were directed to.   

One would think that 2413 SB would be the most obvious venue to supervise by cops to monitor the compliance with the 5pm curfew.   They would have been on the scene already.  Not showing up an hour plus later.   The pic I posted showed the Cestur police at the entrance involved in the closure.   What happened between 5pm and an hour later, that they didnt act sooner in making sure 2413 was closed?   

From my own observations,  whenever Kings Rumba was nearing curfew, PN and Cestur was right there to supervise closure and the movement of people leaving ON TIME.   Often ready to arrest chicas if they got the chance.   None of that appeared to be happening right before the eyes of the Cestur across from their station.   Besides how convenient?   They can grab chicks right outside and walk them over to spend the night in jail.    But that didnt happen, or did it?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 11, 2021, 09:43:40 AM
I believe you are listening to the talking points that those guys are recycling. Paid the police? What police? From the 1st day they opened the Colonel of the PN in Sosua told them and every other business in Sosua that nobody outside of the hotels would be open after curfew on Sunday. If you paid the police and the top cop in the city is saying he will close all businesses at curfew why would u believe that you would be open. Furthermore why would you be out promoting that you would be open when the chief of police for 1 week is saying you won’t be. Trust me, the police chief was mad about this blatant disrespect and was planned on arresting everyone inside. He didn’t do that because the Mayor told him not to. The reason it took so long to get there is because they had to close all the other businesses first. They started with Rumbas. The sam pN that closed Atlanta Lights is the same PN that closed 2413. Its the EXACT same scenario.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2021, 10:08:16 AM
I believe you are listening to the talking points that those guys are recycling. Paid the police? What police? From the 1st day they opened the Colonel of the PN in Sosua told them and every other business in Sosua that nobody outside of the hotels would be open after curfew on Sunday. If you paid the police and the top cop in the city is saying he will close all businesses at curfew why would u believe that you would be open. Furthermore why would you be out promoting that you would be open when the chief of police for 1 week is saying you won’t be. Trust me, the police chief was mad about this blatant disrespect and was planned on arresting everyone inside. He didn’t do that because the Mayor told him not to. The reason it took so long to get there is because they had to close all the other businesses first. They started with Rumbas. The sam pN that closed Atlanta Lights is the same PN that closed 2413. Its the EXACT same scenario.
Yes much of what was said was hearsay no doubt.  However it makes no sense for 2413 SB to be open if he didnt get that from some official claiming they would look the other way.  Paid or unpaid.     As for the cops not getting there because they were busy shutting down Rumbs/Kings.   That wasnt the case in this scenario because a handful of cops were stationary hanging around Ahnvee.   Not in no hurry in going to 2413 SB.   At least thats what I saw.   

Plus we must consider,  nobody is going to PUBLICLY admit they paid somebody or received payment.   That info is going to be known by the parties, and those they share that info with.  In my case,  I was not going strictly by the Ytuber or anyone in the video alone.  But what I heard jives with known facts by a small circle.   

And I'll just leave it at that.   What we all can take away from this,  is to learn from this.  And dont find oneself in the same situation.   That also applies to patrons.   Patrons have to look out for their own best interests and not rely on an establishment that may not have any juice, special permits or iron clad back door agreements ( no such thing ).   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 11, 2021, 10:44:55 AM
I believe you are listening to the talking points that those guys are recycling. Paid the police? What police? From the 1st day they opened the Colonel of the PN in Sosua told them and every other business in Sosua that nobody outside of the hotels would be open after curfew on Sunday. If you paid the police and the top cop in the city is saying he will close all businesses at curfew why would u believe that you would be open. Furthermore why would you be out promoting that you would be open when the chief of police for 1 week is saying you won’t be. Trust me, the police chief was mad about this blatant disrespect and was planned on arresting everyone inside. He didn’t do that because the Mayor told him not to. The reason it took so long to get there is because they had to close all the other businesses first. They started with Rumbas. The sam pN that closed Atlanta Lights is the same PN that closed 2413. Its the EXACT same scenario.
Yes much of what was said was hearsay no doubt.  However it makes no sense for 2413 SB to be open if he didnt get that from some official claiming they would look the other way.  Paid or unpaid.     As for the cops not getting there because they were busy shutting down Rumbs/Kings.   That wasnt the case in this scenario because a handful of cops were stationary hanging around Ahnvee.   Not in no hurry in going to 2413 SB.   At least thats what I saw.   

Plus we must consider,  nobody is going to PUBLICLY admit they paid somebody or received payment.   That info is going to be known by the parties, and those they share that info with.  In my case,  I was not going strictly by the Ytuber or anyone in the video alone.  But what I heard jives with known facts by a small circle.   

And I'll just leave it at that.   What we all can take away from this,  is to learn from this.  And dont find oneself in the same situation.   That also applies to patrons.   Patrons have to look out for their own best interests and not rely on an establishment that may not have any juice, special permits or iron clad back door agreements ( no such thing ).

I can respect that and that would be a good place to leave this. We all have our sources and circles, lots of info that I can’t share on a open forum but the bottom line is they never had a permit, permission, or anything else, formal or informal from anybody that mattered that they could be open. It was all a bluff and a gamble from the start. You are right, everyone coming down should use these situations as data points to make intelligent decisions in the future.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 11, 2021, 11:16:36 AM
Piss poor Timing for the new complex to open up.   Kinda speculated that  they would get croaked.     Why not wait till the curfew is lifted or relaxed !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: lazy_monger on February 11, 2021, 12:41:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrlyRZGgFs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrlyRZGgFs&feature=youtu.be)

Well E. Dean Cole states his case.  IMO basically making himself out to be a victim.  His damage control audio message that I posted isnt much different than this YT video,  just a more elaborate form of deflection and distortion from the most important issues. 

THE CURFEW started at 5pm.  That means your customers should be out of there at 5pm.  Not ordering food for take out, or trying to still pay a bill.   I notice when he got to the part of playing the audio of one guy,  he cut off the part where the guy was about to say that EDC made an announcement that he had permission to stay open longer until 7:30pm.   He made sure that part did not play.   According to the one guy in the audios I posted, EDC made his announcement about staying longer around 6:20pm

So if the place is closed at 5pm,  how do you justify patrons still in your establishment well after curfew still trying to pay a bill?    There had to be something said , or not done to get people out of there before the 5pm curfew?


f--k that dude.  I barely got past the intro.  27 people spent 15 hours in piss and shit because of this dumbass and he is on YouTube lighting up cigars and using it to promote his spot.  So he paid to get them out? They should not have been in there in the first place.  I have never been to jail and I would be hella pissed if my first time was in a Dominican jail because of the incompetence of some bargain basement Rick Ross wannabe.  That video should have started out with an apology, not some stunter and his "COO" lighting up cigars and bragging about having 3rd biggest spot in Puerto Plata.  f--k you dude, you f--ked up a bunch of dudes vacations.  Clown.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on February 11, 2021, 09:21:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrlyRZGgFs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLrlyRZGgFs&feature=youtu.be)

Well E. Dean Cole states his case.  IMO basically making himself out to be a victim.  His damage control audio message that I posted isnt much different than this YT video,  just a more elaborate form of deflection and distortion from the most important issues. 

THE CURFEW started at 5pm.  That means your customers should be out of there at 5pm.  Not ordering food for take out, or trying to still pay a bill.   I notice when he got to the part of playing the audio of one guy,  he cut off the part where the guy was about to say that EDC made an announcement that he had permission to stay open longer until 7:30pm.   He made sure that part did not play.   According to the one guy in the audios I posted, EDC made his announcement about staying longer around 6:20pm

So if the place is closed at 5pm,  how do you justify patrons still in your establishment well after curfew still trying to pay a bill?    There had to be something said , or not done to get people out of there before the 5pm curfew?


f--k that dude.  I barely got past the intro.  27 people spent 15 hours in piss and shit because of this dumbass and he is on YouTube lighting up cigars and using it to promote his spot.  So he paid to get them out? They should not have been in there in the first place.  I have never been to jail and I would be hella pissed if my first time was in a Dominican jail because of the incompetence of some bargain basement Rick Ross wannabe.  That video should have started out with an apology, not some stunter and his "COO" lighting up cigars and bragging about having 3rd biggest spot in Puerto Plata.  f--k you dude, you f--ked up a bunch of dudes vacations.  Clown.

Yea dude is quite arrogant
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: The Traveler on February 11, 2021, 09:31:01 PM
You would have had to announce to me. I don't play with rules, f--k that. 15 hours in a shit hole on vacation, nah man. So you in jail wondering how long will you be there, how the f--k are you getting out. This part scares the f--k out of me.

But why was he not arrested as well?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: billybadass on February 12, 2021, 12:11:17 PM
I believe you are listening to the talking points that those guys are recycling. Paid the police? What police? From the 1st day they opened the Colonel of the PN in Sosua told them and every other business in Sosua that nobody outside of the hotels would be open after curfew on Sunday. If you paid the police and the top cop in the city is saying he will close all businesses at curfew why would u believe that you would be open. Furthermore why would you be out promoting that you would be open when the chief of police for 1 week is saying you won’t be. Trust me, the police chief was mad about this blatant disrespect and was planned on arresting everyone inside. He didn’t do that because the Mayor told him not to. The reason it took so long to get there is because they had to close all the other businesses first. They started with Rumbas. The sam pN that closed Atlanta Lights is the same PN that closed 2413. Its the EXACT same scenario.
Yes much of what was said was hearsay no doubt.  However it makes no sense for 2413 SB to be open if he didnt get that from some official claiming they would look the other way.  Paid or unpaid.     As for the cops not getting there because they were busy shutting down Rumbs/Kings.   That wasnt the case in this scenario because a handful of cops were stationary hanging around Ahnvee.   Not in no hurry in going to 2413 SB.   At least thats what I saw.   

Plus we must consider,  nobody is going to PUBLICLY admit they paid somebody or received payment.   That info is going to be known by the parties, and those they share that info with.  In my case,  I was not going strictly by the Ytuber or anyone in the video alone.  But what I heard jives with known facts by a small circle.   

And I'll just leave it at that.   What we all can take away from this,  is to learn from this.  And dont find oneself in the same situation.   That also applies to patrons.   Patrons have to look out for their own best interests and not rely on an establishment that may not have any juice, special permits or iron clad back door agreements ( no such thing ).

I've been reading all these stories and all this speculation followed up by excuses and grade school logic to hide the reality of what happened during SuperBowl weekend. There's a snitch among us gentlemen!  Tell me why there is only one business allowed to stay open and make money during Superbowl?  As a tourist I did my research. I talked to the business owners. I spoke to the locals. I even spoke to the girls. Everybody knows that Ahnvee is targeting their competition and getting them closed down. Think about it. Why else would those guys charge ridiculous amounts of money to get in and have the confidence to keep the prices high eventhough everywhere else was free? I know a setup when I see one.  Everybody here knows I was planning to watch the game at Ray's place. I got with him and this man changed his location to a little duck off hotel just to play by the rules and give us a safe place to see the game. I'm sitting there, sexy vibe, full of hoes, game on, then I get a call from my man at David's spot and bam...POLICE SHUT DOWN.  All the girls said Ahnvee sent the police to close down David just before the national anthem. I get back home, all is good, then my chica lets me know Ray's hotel spot got shut down. So it was ok when I was there So, but 2 days later its illegal? So now it's a crime to have a hotel open at night past the curfew too? Seems like the rule applies to everybody but Ahnvee. So hey, just come clean and say it. Don't pretend this is some COVID-19 initiative.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 12, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
Ahnvee has a resort license which allows the locals to bend the rules a little to keep a steady supply of dollars and palm greasing flowing into the area. No hotel other than Casa Marina has a resort license so like all the Dominican owned non resort businesses they can not be open after curfew. There’s no need for anything nefarious on the part of Bourbon and his team. They’re beneficiaries of the national governments policy and the country’s need for tourist dollars.

While I have no doubt Ahnvee like any good capitalist enterprise is using the situation to turn a profit I also accept that we have no idea what it costs to keep the place running and pay off all the folks who need to be paid. Here’s a novel idea. Anyone who feels they’re being taken advantage of simply don’t patronize the place.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 12, 2021, 01:05:05 PM
Only socialists are complaining that they are being gouged.
Money that the government was supposed to give them?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: lazy_monger on February 12, 2021, 01:08:59 PM
Mofos love them some conspiracy.  It has been explained on here countless times why they are able be open as opposed to others.  I seriously doubt a foreign owned hotel would have the clout to get the powers that be to shutdown other establishments.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 12, 2021, 01:25:05 PM
If it was a government facility, then yes, free access...Mon-Fri.  A government subsidized business...yes again, but with a prorated fee for access.  Only the private businesses should be expected to have a cost relative with the services provided.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on February 12, 2021, 03:06:04 PM
I sent the police ????. That’s the joke of the year. That’s the way business works here. The first 2 months we were open after the pandemic started the police and every other agency on record came to close us. None of them succeeded because we planned our shit out in advance and were ready for them. If they can’t survive the 1st round of police raids then they not even in the game. After the police raids then they will get visits from the health department and the tourism board. If they make it past all that then that’s when the hard shit will really begin.

I’ve said this a million times. 0-99 rooms is one type of license. That license is totally governed by local authorities. The local authorities dictate what you can do. 100 rooms and up you are governed from Santo Domingo. The local authorities have no say whatsoever in our operations. They are not even allowed on the property without a court order from a fiscal and the fiscal has to be with them. I don’t have to send the police or anybody else to close any business, the laws of the jungle will do that naturally. Instead of blaming Ahnvee and planning boycotts they really should put a winning strategy in place.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Eggie202 on February 12, 2021, 04:03:48 PM
This mofo really sat there and said "somebody" called the police on us. What the fvck does that have to do with you being open for the Super Bowl? If you being open was legit it wouldn't matter, right? Then he blames the police for doing their jobs? If you're not supposed to be open your whole establishment goes to jail so fvck you blaming them for? Out of all this shit what gets me the most is his black ass didn't get locked up with them. Explain that shit to me and the folks that inhaled feces and piss for 15 hours.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on February 12, 2021, 04:21:34 PM
The pastor Dean E Cole said "little chicken shack turnin tricks"  he's talking about Greg's spot LMAO!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 12, 2021, 04:23:04 PM
The irony is as an American running businesses in the DR, Greg has been in the shit several times already and continues to earn his stripes.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 12, 2021, 04:29:36 PM
I sent the police ????. That’s the joke of the year. That’s the way business works here. The first 2 months we were open after the pandemic started the police and every other agency on record came to close us. None of them succeeded because we planned our shit out in advance and were ready for them. If they can’t survive the 1st round of police raids then they not even in the game. After the police raids then they will get visits from the health department and the tourism board. If they make it past all that then that’s when the hard shit will really begin.

I’ve said this a million times. 0-99 rooms is one type of license. That license is totally governed by local authorities. The local authorities dictate what you can do. 100 rooms and up you are governed from Santo Domingo. The local authorities have no say whatsoever in our operations. They are not even allowed on the property without a court order from a fiscal and the fiscal has to be with them. I don’t have to send the police or anybody else to close any business, the laws of the jungle will do that naturally. Instead of blaming Ahnvee and planning boycotts they really should put a winning strategy in place.

A good starting point for a winning strategy would be a business plan. And since you kind of have to throw that away trying to open during a lockdown, following the law would be another pretty good starting point.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 12, 2021, 04:35:05 PM
This mofo really sat there and said "somebody" called the police on us. What the fvck does that have to do with you being open for the Super Bowl? If you being open was legit it wouldn't matter, right? Then he blames the police for doing their jobs? If you're not supposed to be open your whole establishment goes to jail so fvck you blaming them for? Out of all this shit what gets me the most is his black ass didn't get locked up with them. Explain that shit to me and the folks that inhaled feces and piss for 15 hours.

Lol! Ain’t nobody call the police on Cole. If he really knew what time it was in Puerto Plata, he would’ve known that police patrol the Malecon on the regular. They are up and down that strip everyday. They saw you, Dean. ????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on February 12, 2021, 04:43:38 PM
During the curfew I watched them driving up and down the malecon in a convoy. If your business wasn’t closing fast enough they would stop in front and yell at you with a megaphone. And right in front of Miami might be the most heavily policed part of the malecon soooooo..........

Yea they were already there. No calls needed.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Flyguy954 on February 18, 2021, 08:38:25 AM
Any update on the Curfew ? What are the Current time schedule and expected expiration.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on February 18, 2021, 03:14:08 PM
Any update on the Curfew ? What are the Current time schedule and expected expiration.
??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 18, 2021, 03:25:50 PM
Same old bat channel Same old bat time !!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 18, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/02/18/abinader-extends-state-of-emergency-for-another-45-days-2/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/covid-19/2021/02/18/abinader-extends-state-of-emergency-for-another-45-days-2/)

Curfew as far as we know,  is unchanged.  Mon-Fri curfew is 7pm until 5am.   We have 3 hours transit time after 7pm to get off of the street.   Sat and Sun curfew is 5pm until 5am.  With 3 hours transit time after 5pm to get off the street.  Only certain entities/people have permits to travel outside of curfew hours.

When the new State Of Emergency is in effect on March 2,  the govt may keep the current curfew schedule or change it.   The govt has hinted to a gradual reduction of the curfew eventually,  but we have to see how things play out. 

Thursday February 18th, 2021

Abinader extends state of emergency for another 45 days

Santo Domingo, DR

The Executive Power extended for another 45 days the state of emergency, which will affect March 2.

Through decree 95-2020, President Luis Abinader indicates that the measure seeks to confront the Covid-19 pandemic and preserve the health of the Dominican population.

The last state of emergency expires on March 1, the Senate of the Republic approved to continue with the restrictions on hours and controlled visits to some public spaces.

“In our country, the level of contagion has been contained to a certain extent thanks to the sustained and uninterrupted adoption of social distancing measures. Suppose we continue with this strategy and achieve a gradual and safe de-escalation of the curfew and other measures. In that case, we will be able to avoid a rebound of such a magnitude that its repercussions would be even stronger on the Dominican society and economy,” explained the President in the request sent to Congress.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 18, 2021, 10:14:50 PM
As with the on going Scamdemic  the goal post keeps moving ,one can only hope  it wanes as summer arrives   Just in time for sweaty Hoes !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 23, 2021, 10:44:12 AM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/02/22/abinader-extends-current-curfew-until-march-8/
 (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/02/22/abinader-extends-current-curfew-until-march-8/)
Abinader extends current curfew until March 8


In a nutshell,  the curfew schedule that was in place just before this extension is basically the same.   

Santo Domingo, DR

The executive branch extended, with the same schedule and until March 8, the current curfew in the Dominican Republic to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

The provision is contained in Decree 107-21 issued last night by President Luis Abinader and released by the Communications Department.

The decree establishes that the same hours will be maintained throughout the national territory from Monday to Friday, from 7:00 at night to 5:00 in the morning. On Saturdays and Sundays, it is from 5:00 in the afternoon until 5:00 in the morning.

Specifies that the provider maintains the validity of the measures provided in Decree 37-21, which has a grace of free movement of three additional hours every day so that people can go to their respective residences.

In that sense, people will be able to transit from Monday to Friday until 10:00 at night, while Saturdays and Sundays will be until 8:00 at night.

“All the measures provided in Decree 37-21 of January 22, 2021, and its modifications, remain in force from Tuesday, February 23 until Monday, March 8 of the current year, both inclusive, at which time the authorities will review these measures,” he says.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 26, 2021, 05:07:33 PM
If you’re missing Sosua this video that appears to have been shot this week puts you there for a few minutes. It’s a surprisingly effective street drive video which typically aren’t my thing. At about the 3 minute mark they show the scene down at the new spot by Ahnvee. The place is absolutely full of bitches.

https://youtu.be/TM83nQNBKoY
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 27, 2021, 08:56:23 PM
Boots on the ground at Ahnvee. The spot is busy. Good amount of chicas. On the looks scale, it varies, but you’ll be able to find what you want.

Some chicas trying to push the ST rate up past 3,000 pesos. Pause. ????✋

Generally, I’m not going for it. Nothing more than 3,500 if push comes to shove and it’s an absolute must have. It’s important to draw the line in the sand. There’s no benefit to having a strong dollar if you’re gonna overpay these chicas like you’re in the U.S.

Have I been able to get what I want? Absolutely. But the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. f--k around and DR rates are gonna be looking like $100 USD average rates in Costa Rica. How such a scenario could even be plausible is mind boggling considering the exchange rate between USD & DOP.

As a write this, a tall, good looking chica with a nice body that I would rate as an 8, just hit me on WhatsApp with a $200 USD TLN quote. ???? Mind you, she told me earlier that she’s sharing a room and an open bathroom with like 3 or 4 other chicas, lol. Yet still, she’s willing to price herself out of a comfortable stay overnight in the pent house with just me, rather than just coming with a reasonable quote out the gate that I might accept.

Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on February 27, 2021, 09:31:30 PM
Boots on the ground at Ahnvee. The spot is busy. Good amount of chicas. On the looks scale, it varies, but you’ll be able to find what you want.

Some chicas trying to push the ST rate up past 3,000 pesos. Pause. ????✋

Generally, I’m not going for it. Nothing more than 3,500 if push comes to shove and it’s an absolute must have. It’s important to draw the line in the sand. There’s no benefit to having a strong dollar if you’re gonna overpay these chicas like you’re in the U.S.

Have I been able to get what I want? Absolutely. But the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. f--k around and DR rates are gonna be looking like $100 USD average rates in Costa Rica. How such a scenario could even be plausible is mind boggling considering the exchange rate between USD & DOP.

As a write this, a tall, good looking chica with a nice body that I would rate as an 8, just hit me on WhatsApp with a $200 USD TLN quote. ???? Mind you, she told me earlier that she’s sharing a room and an open bathroom with like 3 or 4 other chicas, lol. Yet still, she’s willing to price herself out of a comfortable stay overnight in the pent house with just me, rather than just coming with a reasonable quote out the gate that I might accept.

Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????

that place is a waste of time
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on February 27, 2021, 09:44:25 PM
I almost ran over one of them brightass number 8s! I was turning left off doc rosen and she was crossing from the right/bailee side not lookin/caring about traffic! I swerved to the right and ran over the little traffic guards/mini barracades!! Them chicas only think about themselves and your money!! Haha Now shes down to eight lives!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: SilentPartner on February 27, 2021, 11:43:36 PM
Boots on the ground at Ahnvee. The spot is busy. Good amount of chicas. On the looks scale, it varies, but you’ll be able to find what you want.

Some chicas trying to push the ST rate up past 3,000 pesos. Pause. ????✋

Generally, I’m not going for it. Nothing more than 3,500 if push comes to shove and it’s an absolute must have. It’s important to draw the line in the sand. There’s no benefit to having a strong dollar if you’re gonna overpay these chicas like you’re in the U.S.

Have I been able to get what I want? Absolutely. But the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. f--k around and DR rates are gonna be looking like $100 USD average rates in Costa Rica. How such a scenario could even be plausible is mind boggling considering the exchange rate between USD & DOP.

As a write this, a tall, good looking chica with a nice body that I would rate as an 8, just hit me on WhatsApp with a $200 USD TLN quote. ???? Mind you, she told me earlier that she’s sharing a room and an open bathroom with like 3 or 4 other chicas, lol. Yet still, she’s willing to price herself out of a comfortable stay overnight in the pent house with just me, rather than just coming with a reasonable quote out the gate that I might accept.

Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????

I really am a Baroque fan, but this is my jam whenever I encounter a delusional female:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYs4pA27Ajw
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 28, 2021, 01:55:09 PM
On the ground report.  Day time Slow  As of 3 pm Pedro cillante Dr Rosen.  Hopefully some Action later. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on March 01, 2021, 07:53:26 PM
Curfew reduced: Monday to Friday from 9:00 to 5:00 AM and Saturdays and Sundays from 7:00 to 5:00 AM

BOTH HOURS WITH THREE HOURS OF FREE TRANSIT

Digital Writing
Santo Domingo, DR.

President Luis Abinader issued on Monday Decree 133-21 establishing the new schedules and rules that will be in force in the curfew that begins next Wednesday, March 3 and ends on March 17.

From 9:00 p.m. establishments must close, this, from Monday to Friday, while on Saturdays and Sundays they will close from 7:00 p.m.

The free transit grace will be from Monday to Friday until 12:00 p.m., and Saturdays and Sundays until 10:00 p.m., with three hours in both cases.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 01, 2021, 08:22:43 PM
https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/03/01/659329/reducen-toque-de-queda-de-lunes-a-viernes-de-900-a-500-am-y-sabados-y-domingo-de-700-a-500-am (https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/03/01/659329/reducen-toque-de-queda-de-lunes-a-viernes-de-900-a-500-am-y-sabados-y-domingo-de-700-a-500-am)

Curfew is reduced: Monday to Friday from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. and Saturdays and Sunday from 7:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.
BOTH SCHEDULES WITH THREE HOURS OF FREE TRANSIT



Santo Domingo, RD.
President Luis Abinader issued Decree 133-21 on Monday establishing the new hours and regulations that will be in effect at the curfew that begins next Wednesday 3 and ends on March 17.

From 9:00 pm, the establishments must close, this, from Monday to Friday, while on Saturdays and Sundays they will close from 7:00 pm.

The grace of free transit will be from Monday to Friday until 12:00 at night, and Saturdays and Sundays until 10:00 at night, with three hours in both cases.

The Executive Power also instructs the Office for the Reordering of Transportation (OPRET) and the Metropolitan Office of Bus Services (OMSA), to offer their service to citizens within the circulation hours defined in the decree.

Likewise, it is established that public outdoor spaces, such as parks and boardwalks, can be used within compliance with the protocols established for the non-spread of the virus.

Also the centers for the consumption of beverages and food will be able to receive clients up to 60% of their capacity without exceeding 6 people per table, as well as the centers for sports practices and places for religious practices, the latter, must carry out their celebrations only three times a week.

Mass assistance activities remain prohibited, while the tourism sector will continue to operate with the special health protocol that it has followed until now.

Once the curfew begins, only people with a medical emergency who need to go to a health center or pharmacy can circulate, as well as people who provide services to the health sector, such as doctors, nurses, bioanalysts, paramedical personnel and pharmaceutical personnel .

As well as duly identified citizens engaged in private security tasks and duly accredited members of the press.

Vehicle operators and technicians of companies and institutions that provide energy, water, telecommunications and solid waste collection services duly identified may transit exclusively during the exercise of their work functions.

Also operators of vehicles dedicated to the urban and interurban distribution of goods, supplies and fuel duly identified, exclusively during the exercise of their work functions.

People who work in the food and medical and pharmaceutical industry and trade and are in transit to or from their workplaces, provided they carry identification of an authorized company.

Likewise, international passengers and operators of private or commercial vehicles that are transporting them, as well as duly identified employees of the maritime and air transport sector, in transit to or from ports and airports.

Also people who provide funeral services, while employees or contractors of restaurants, pharmacies or grocery stores that provide home services are allowed to circulate during the exercise of their functions until 11:00 at night.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 01, 2021, 08:25:36 PM
Curfew reduced: Monday to Friday from 9:00 to 5:00 AM and Saturdays and Sundays from 7:00 to 5:00 AM

BOTH HOURS WITH THREE HOURS OF FREE TRANSIT

Digital Writing
Santo Domingo, DR.

President Luis Abinader issued on Monday Decree 133-21 establishing the new schedules and rules that will be in force in the curfew that begins next Wednesday, March 3 and ends on March 17.

From 9:00 p.m. establishments must close, this, from Monday to Friday, while on Saturdays and Sundays they will close from 7:00 p.m.

The free transit grace will be from Monday to Friday until 12:00 p.m., and Saturdays and Sundays until 10:00 p.m., with three hours in both cases.
Thanks for providing that info.   The article I saw has a little more detail for our consumption. 

I see there was an error in the article.  It's 9pm to 5am M-F,   7pm to 5am Sat & Sun.   Both with 3hrs for transit.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 05, 2021, 06:51:56 PM
Cestur, AMET and PN police on a mission in Sosua.  it's Friday March 5th, 2021.

Been noticing all three branches of enforcement have been busy lately.   Yesterday afternoon,  PN police were riding around Sosua picking up women left and right.   And I dont mean mainly on the strip.  All over.    I was passing by Bologna rest., then Margot rest. where the police had several chicks inside of a pickup, and also sitting in the bed of the truck.   Then when I got close to the school and ball field,  two cops on a motorbike jumped off , stopped and lead those girls to towards the curb,  presumably to wait for the pickup truck, and load them in the back. 

Cestur officers were on the strip looking for and detaining certain women seen walking.   AMET has been stopping motos for spot checks, no helmets etc.   AMET has been stopping vehicles that dont have a current marbete sticker on their windshields.   2 days ago, a bunch of confiscated motorbikes were loaded on two flatbed trucks over near the metro station.   Saw a checkpoint set up at the roundabout in PP by Jumbo.     Mind you none of this is new,  it just appears as if all branches are ramping up operations.   The campaign or possible mandate to clean up the city seems to be in effect.   

Today on the beach,  Cestur was pacing the beach like they were on a mission.  I saw 4 local males ,  one at a time, were arrested/detained and put in the back of a Cestur pickup truck.  Once all 4 were in the truck,  it left I suppose to take them to the station.   The thing though, Cesturs presence on the beach was as if they had orders to execute.   

One thing I've noticed.   I dont see many of the young kids hanging around adult venues as much as I used to.   You'll still see local kids on the beach,  but not so much hanging on the strip.   Or maybe it's me that has not been getting out much at night?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 06, 2021, 03:18:37 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on March 06, 2021, 03:31:04 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.


Being out at 3am no matter the circumstances probably not going to end well. 
Consider yourself lucky you got off with a bribe and they didn't haul your ass off to jail
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on March 06, 2021, 04:35:37 PM
Well at least that's good news for the rest of us that love visiting the DR. One less guy like Whitelite on the island will make our experience with island excursions better!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 06, 2021, 06:57:18 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.
Did you just fly in to STI and rent a car?   And then tried to get to Sosua from the airport at that hour?  Where exactly did the stop/incident take place?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dothedamthing on March 07, 2021, 08:51:03 AM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.
Did you just fly in to STI and rent a car?   And then tried to get to Sosua from the airport at that hour?  Where exactly did the stop/incident take place?

Quite a few times I flew in on that 2am flight and drove to Sosua I would be stopped. Usually a 1000 pesos takes care of things. I always have 1k pesos separate from my other money and tell them that's all I have and I'm on my way. Now if I'm on that late flight I just get a nap in the airport then leave at sun up.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on March 07, 2021, 09:28:53 AM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on March 07, 2021, 09:59:46 AM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I was thinking along the same lines. If policia catches you slipping after curfew in a car by yourself, they’re gonna “gringo tax” in exchange for making the problem go away. Smh.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 07, 2021, 10:47:57 AM
Bingo the gringoTax . Wonder how much he got robbed. If it's a 1000 pesos that's the cost of doing business.    Not to busting the posters  gonads.  But   just part of the process down here !   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on March 07, 2021, 12:41:35 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

Thanks for coming on here and admitting what happened. How much did they get from you tho? Sounds like they got you for those GREEN GUYS
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 10, 2021, 06:26:44 AM
 0722 up date. Rain.down pours.  Cant bitch last 10 days weather has been perfect  .be prepared  Any ways Tuesday  night Pedro cillante  busy  small bars and resteraunts   full including flip flops. An average amount of chicas out this was around 7 pm. So the reduced curfews are helping! Side note. Nary a mask being worn. Mabey a few.  Or at least have handy   !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 10, 2021, 09:26:14 AM
0722 up date. Rain.down pours.  Cant bitch last 10 days weather has been perfect  .be prepared  Any ways Tuesday  night Pedro cillante  busy  small bars and resteraunts   full including flip flops. An average amount of chicas out this was around 7 pm. So the reduced curfews are helping! Side note. Nary a mask being worn. Mabey a few.  Or at least have handy   !
I concur.  We have had some great warm sunny weather before this week.   The forecast showed rain starting this past Monday, and now it's Wednesday March 10th.   Were expecting rain to continue until the weekend.     

Sunday afternoon around 6pm ,  my road dog and I met up for drinks and eats.   We both noticed in our travels around Sosua that it seemed dead.  A lot of the bars and restaurants had very few people.  I noticed that some chicks were posted up at places so that police wouldnt bother them.    Like over by the Fruit Cart guys.  The small liquor store near Chez Montreal used to be a post up spot,  but I think the cops patrol that area more aggressively.  On foot, pickup and motor bikes.   

Down by Rickys Dominican Restaurant, those small bars nearby chicks try to post of there.   They have their hotel rooms just a few feet away for cover.   The corner and vicinity where Europa is, the chicas are exposed.   They have to sit at the outside bar of Europa,  the perch outside of Ramona's rest,  over by the little bar on the corner,  or the bar and restaurant next to that.   Also down the side street from Europa is a expat residence where some chicks hang out.   

Further down, you have Cheers.  Chicks that arent inside may be outside casually looking for work.   The next block there are rooms upstairs where chicas stay.  So they may hang out upstairs looking down, or at street level looking for work.   Furhter down going towards Ahnvee the block where the colmados are,  there are rooms where chicks stay. 

The stores offer some cover,  and the Jabali bar offers cover.  Chicks staying at Ahnvee regularly walk to the store to get stuff.   Easy pick up opportunities for both prey and hunters.   Quoting a chick a price that is deemed fair to both of you is possible, because the chicks are usually plain jane,  not dolled up , nor are they on Ahnvee property.   

More chicks are relying on motoconchos, and also several chicks have cars.  And they are shuttling a lot of chicks around so they dont have to take a moto.   Chicks are also telling their dates that they have to come and go in a taxi,  an expense they expect the date to cover.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on March 10, 2021, 10:42:30 AM
@Navigator... I' ve been stopped numerous times and usually 500-1000 does the trick. the cost of a citation is about 2500 pesos and you have to spend time at the bank to pay it so its usually cheaper to just pay the bribe to these assholes
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on March 10, 2021, 10:46:47 AM
Facts. Having gone through all that...I always keep a 1000peso note with my rental paperwork in the glove compartment. It's much more convenient to pay a bribe than the ticket.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 10, 2021, 01:52:21 PM
Wednesday 3-10-21

It has been raining all day here in Sosua.  And hard too.  It's still raining. 

Somebody sent me this video that was taken today.  It's in the vicinity of Europa and that side street that leads back to Route 5.

https://streamable.com/k80mkn
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tarik on March 10, 2021, 03:26:50 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 11, 2021, 11:32:02 AM
It's Thursday March 11, 2021

Got through the morning and it's afternoon now.  Not raining currently here in Sosua, but showers are expected throughout the day.   Drove a round town a little bit and it looks like all flood waters have receded.   Temperature is in the 70's to low 80's.   A spring like day so far.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on March 11, 2021, 05:24:06 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

Throw him in jail for what?  He said he was coming from STI, fair enough. If partner was fluent in Spanish, and able to explain the legitimacy of being on the road at that time, and felt like holding his ground, he gets a pass. But it's easier just to pay the toll.

Fact is, random stops on the road happen 24 hours a day, Papi likes to have $1000 handy, i usually keep $400-$600 in the console, $200 each cop so they they can get a piece of chicken or a couple of beers. One time i did not have it in the console and there was no way i was reaching for my wallet in front of them, so i just sat in the car telling the guys i was a tourist and smiling like i did not know i was stopped in order to buy them lunch. A couple of awkward moments passed of me smiling and they let me go.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 12, 2021, 12:04:55 PM
Well at least that's good news for the rest of us that love visiting the DR. One less guy like Whitelite on the island will make our experience with island excursions better!

Have we met?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 12, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.
Did you just fly in to STI and rent a car?   And then tried to get to Sosua from the airport at that hour?  Where exactly did the stop/incident take place?

Yes, flew into STI and driving legally to Infiniti Blu. Happened about 5-10 minutes from airport.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 12, 2021, 12:14:09 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Germaniachantuer on March 12, 2021, 12:18:08 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

They obviously weren't police. I read a post earlier warning people about these types of cars too.


Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on March 12, 2021, 12:24:22 PM
Well at least that's good news for the rest of us that love visiting the DR. One less guy like Whitelite on the island will make our experience with island excursions better!

Have we met?
Maybe...but don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on March 12, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 12, 2021, 12:41:14 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

The curfew allows transit to/from airport so you can kiss my privileged ass. Read the rules. All I’m saying is this is good for the cop but bad for tourism.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 12, 2021, 12:47:12 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.

My redneck Airport is Detroit and I’m not taking 21 hrs and 3 layovers to get to POP.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on March 12, 2021, 01:03:27 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

The curfew allows transit to/from airport so you can kiss my privileged ass. Read the rules. All I’m saying is this is good efor the cop but bad for tourism.

If they hit you up 10 minutes outside of STI it was simply a setup looking for a payday. Definitely not limited only to tourists. I may have missed it,  but how much did they get you for?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tarik on March 12, 2021, 02:08:25 PM


No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

Uh huh.

Again, that's just you being stupid AF.

I read the rules, very carefully, in Spanish, and follow them religiously. That's why I don't have any stupid AF stories like yours.

Question: how did they know you were transiting from the airport? Because your stupid AF @ss told them so?

To them, you were just another dumb-@ss tourist flaunting the curfew. Which made you a super easy mark.

Again, your stupid AF privileged @ss was VERY lucky you only got taxed, and that you didn't get thrown in jail. If you like kissing @ss, you would have been in nirvana at the detention center.

What's next, "I met this chica, magic happened, and then she started demanding money. What gives?"
The curfew allows transit to/from airport so you can kiss my privileged ass. Read the rules. All I’m saying is this is good for the cop but bad for tourism.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on March 12, 2021, 03:06:38 PM


No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

Uh huh.

Again, that's just you being stupid AF.

I read the rules, very carefully, in Spanish, and follow them religiously. That's why I don't have any stupid AF stories like yours.

Question: how did they know you were transiting from the airport? Because your stupid AF @ss told them so?

To them, you were just another dumb-@ss tourist flaunting the curfew. Which made you a super easy mark.

Again, your stupid AF privileged @ss was VERY lucky you only got taxed, and that you didn't get thrown in jail. If you like kissing @ss, you would have been in nirvana at the detention center.

What's next, "I met this chica, magic happened, and then she started demanding money. What gives?"
The curfew allows transit to/from airport so you can kiss my privileged ass. Read the rules. All I’m saying is this is good for the cop but bad for tourism.

DUDE! Buddy is not "stupid AF", he relayed a story about his experience legally transiting to and from the airport.

Other DUDE! You may not have noticed but there are not as many flights at the moment. Not everyone can get to MIA or CLT in the morning in time for the flight to POP. I can't, next trip i will have to overnight in MIA there and back also because my usual evening flights home are not available either. Anyone going for a weekend is not gonna do that.  i wouldn't do it for a short trip, but i like spending a night on Calle Oche.

Relax men.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tarik on March 12, 2021, 04:03:12 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

The curfew allows transit to/from airport so you can kiss my privileged ass. Read the rules. All I’m saying is this is good for the cop but bad for tourism.

Uh huh.

Again, that's just you being stupid AF.

I read the rules, very carefully, in Spanish, and follow them religiously. That's why I don't have any stupid AF stories like yours.

Question: how did they know you were transiting from the airport? Because your stupid AF @ss told them so?

To them, you were just another dumb-@ss tourist flaunting the curfew. Which made you a super easy mark.

Again, your stupid AF privileged @ss was VERY lucky you only got taxed, and that you didn't get thrown in jail. If you like kissing @ss, you would have been in nirvana at the detention center.

What's next, "I met this chica, magic happened, and then she started demanding money. What gives?"

To Viva Las Vegas: I appreciate what you're trying to do, but this stupid wannabe privileged hillbilly put himself and anyone he happened to be traveling with by flaunting the law. As he should well know, the "law" at 3 a.m. is whatever the officer stopping you says it is. And on that night, the "law" said he needed to be taxed.

He wasn't in Hazzard County, where a few words with Sheriff Rosco would fix things. It's a third world country on mandatory curfew, and anyone driving around without a document giving them specific permission to do so is just asking for it. Think cabs and professional transportation services, not gringos in a car with a weak AF excuse.

I was there last week. I was off the street by 9 p.m. on the weekdays, and 7 on the weekends. That's fine, had plenty to keep me entertained back at the condo. My point being, unless you are being driven by a cab or something similar, best to have your @ss at home before the end of the transit period, but UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES be driving around afterwards.

Truly, that's just stupid AF. Like "I've got special permission to keep my new restaurant open late on Superbowl Sunday" stupid.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 12, 2021, 04:16:30 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.

No, that's just you, being stupid. What sort of person travels at 3 a.m. on an island under a mandatory curfew?

Consider your sense of privilege checked. You are damn lucky they didn't throw you in jail.

Sheesh!

The curfew allows transit to/from airport so you can kiss my privileged ass. Read the rules. All I’m saying is this is good for the cop but bad for tourism.
Something to learn from here  :   The things that can potentially happen even if you are traveling legally from the airport to your final destination.   There are other potential problems one might encounter.   A break down with nobody available to assist you,  hitting a animal, a person or object in the road.   Being broke down at the time some unsavory characters ( aside from the police ) are on the road. 

In your case, you learned what can potentially happen and what police may be capable of even if you were not violating anything.   Your situation can be an example for someone else considering taking that 3am trip.   Do I risk being stopped and fleeced,  or do I minimize that from happening?   Of course if there is a next time,  you can try it again and see how you make out.   If it was me?   Your situation, and the aforementioned potential problems I suggested has me convinced that it's best to travel outside of the curfew time frame,  preferably during daylight hours.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on March 12, 2021, 04:57:45 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.

My redneck Airport is Detroit and I’m not taking 21 hrs and 3 layovers to get to POP.

You must be flying Spirit or something

American has a daily flight to MIA every morning than you fly on to POP from there. 

Been on it several times

It leaves around 6:30am and you are in POP by mid afternoon 

If it's taking you 3 layovers and 21 hours to get from DTW to POP your doing something wrong
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 12, 2021, 05:22:23 PM
Unless your  a frugal vet and going to be down there 3 months go to STI and take the bus !   The Average  joe with 3 4days should fly into pop  like posted you can be ball deep with in one hour of clearing customs.   Every minute counts when your there for a few days.   Chica proof the room vett vibe bargin .bang away !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on March 12, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
You must be flying Spirit or something

American has a daily flight to MIA every morning then you fly on to POP from there. 

Been on it several times

It leaves around 6:30 am and you are in POP by mid-afternoon 

If it's taking you 3 layovers and 21 hours to get from DTW to POP you're doing something wrong

Exactly!

I have to admit, I'm always curious about the TMBTS 'Big Baller' crew that is always talking about flying into SDQ or STI to get to Sosua so they can rent their high-dollar villas and pay $200 for short time with their ho's.

I mean, if you are truly a big baller, you should be able to afford to fly directly to POP.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on March 12, 2021, 06:26:37 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.

My redneck Airport is Detroit and I’m not taking 21 hrs and 3 layovers to get to POP.

You must be flying Spirit or something

American has a daily flight to MIA every morning than you fly on to POP from there. 

Been on it several times

It leaves around 6:30am and you are in POP by mid afternoon 

If it's taking you 3 layovers and 21 hours to get from DTW to POP your doing something wrong

See thus is how u expose dudes who full of shit. What you think we can't look this stuff up??!

Like I thought DTW has a flight that leaves in the morning and have you POP at 2pm with ONE 2 hour layover in MIA! Not no 2-3 layover as you said and definitely NOT a 3AM arrival.

So like I said you either broke or flying out of a redneck town! Try again....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on March 12, 2021, 06:58:56 PM
Here's my flight info for the end of March:

Flight 5018 American Airlines Wi-Fi on-board
Operated by Republic Airways as American Eagle

Embraer 175

8:29 AM
IND
11:20 AM
MIA

2h 51m First Class Seat 1A


Flight 935 American Airlines  High-speed Wi-Fi on-board
Boeing 737 MAX 8

12:13 PM
MIA
2:18 PM
POP
2h 5m Business Class Seat 1E
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dothedamthing on March 13, 2021, 06:13:28 AM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.

My redneck Airport is Detroit and I’m not taking 21 hrs and 3 layovers to get to POP.

You must be flying Spirit or something

American has a daily flight to MIA every morning than you fly on to POP from there. 

Been on it several times

It leaves around 6:30am and you are in POP by mid afternoon 

If it's taking you 3 layovers and 21 hours to get from DTW to POP your doing something wrong

See thus is how u expose dudes who full of shit. What you think we can't look this stuff up??!

Like I thought DTW has a flight that leaves in the morning and have you POP at 2pm with ONE 2 hour layover in MIA! Not no 2-3 layover as you said and definitely NOT a 3AM arrival.

So like I said you either broke or flying out of a redneck town! Try again....

You've got to love the internet!! Instant information at it's best. Also if you think going to Costa Rica, Columbia, or other South American or Caribbean countries will keep you from getting the Shakedown by law enforcement, please!! The early morning or late night Shakedown from STI to Sosúa has been going on for years. Almost every country I have been to that is not economically close to the USA there is some form of Shakedown on foreigners. Especially when traveling late night or early morning hours. I've been hit in Columbia, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Mexico, Brazil, Thailand, Ghana, and even China. Understand that your rules and values don't mean shit in another country. If you travel long enough you understand that you are a target and easy money to them. Keep a little bit of bribe money separate from your main stash and say that's it and they will let you go on your way.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 13, 2021, 10:08:21 AM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.

My redneck Airport is Detroit and I’m not taking 21 hrs and 3 layovers to get to POP.

You must be flying Spirit or something

American has a daily flight to MIA every morning than you fly on to POP from there. 

Been on it several times

It leaves around 6:30am and you are in POP by mid afternoon 

If it's taking you 3 layovers and 21 hours to get from DTW to POP your doing something wrong

Probably, Lol. Thanks for the info, but I’ve got a place in CR and I’ll be heading back there now that they are getting sensible about their restrictions and flight frequency is increasing. And in 10+ Years I’ve never been jacked by the policia. Not that it doesn’t happen but I know of no one that has been extorted for being completely legal. I’ve been through more than a couple dozen roadblocks/checkpoints late at night and never have they refused to let me continue without paying them......
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Whitelite on March 13, 2021, 10:16:55 AM
Unless your  a frugal vet and going to be down there 3 months go to STI and take the bus !   The Average  joe with 3 4days should fly into pop  like posted you can be ball deep with in one hour of clearing customs.   Every minute counts when your there for a few days.   Chica proof the room vett vibe bargin .bang away !

Good advise, but I’m usually about 3 weeks in country and doing business/pleasure so I have to do it differently. Amazing how some on this forum assume you are in their financial shoes or go to name calling and insults. Small minded, racist, angry trolls allowed to run wild are one of the reasons this forum is tiny and makes no money. Sad for the owner/moderators.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 13, 2021, 10:51:52 AM


You've got to love the internet!! Instant information at it's best. Also if you think going to Costa Rica, Columbia, or other South American or Caribbean countries will keep you from getting the Shakedown by law enforcement, please!! The early morning or late night Shakedown from STI to Sosúa has been going on for years. Almost every country I have been to that is not economically close to the USA there is some form of Shakedown on foreigners. Especially when traveling late night or early morning hours. I've been hit in Columbia, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Mexico, Brazil, Thailand, Ghana, and even China. Understand that your rules and values don't mean shit in another country. If you travel long enough you understand that you are a target and easy money to them. Keep a little bit of bribe money separate from your main stash and say that's it and they will let you go on your way.
You are damn right about getting the shakedown aint just a DR thing.  World travelers already know better.   You mentioned Ghana as one place, and just last night I watched a video of a black couple from Texas who give info on what it's like living in Ghana.    I think they are fixing to move there full time.  They named their top ten things they disliked about Ghana.   And some of the things they mentioned,  they might as well have been talking about the DR.   Number two on their list was about corruption.   

How one may be subject to being shaken down at their road check points ( sound familiar ).   Including sometimes getting things done may come in the form of having to bribe or pay someone.   You have to negotiate because thats what they do there.  And as a foreigner, they may attempt to tax you on the prices of just about anything if locals can get away with it. 

I liked one of the suggestions the husband gave when it comes to negotiation.  He said when you are quoted a price on something,  automatically counter offer with half of what the seller wants.   Because it's customary that if they give you a price it's grossly inflated.   So he goes straight for half.     If refused and they come down only a little,  he said he counter offers and goes lower than the half price he originally offered.   Thats actually funny.   

In other words,  he is going in the wrong direction in the negotiations that the seller wants to go.   Seeing the sale slipping away, MAY give the seller the incentive to relent and accept the half offer.   Because deep down, that half offer is probably closer to what the seller wants anyway.  They are just trying to get as much as they can, if the customer doesnt know any better.   

I thought about that.   I can see how that may work on occasion in Ghana.    It's worth a try applying that strategy even elsewhere.   Buying an item, renting etc.     May even apply that to sub contracting for juice/pussy.  Except here, it's best to state up front what you pay, not ask the sub contractor how much they want/expect for services.     A lot of foreigners typically dont like to haggle back and forth.  Whereas in many countries in the world, negotiating and haggling is the norm.   Of course one doesnt have to use half as the set point,  they can just adopt the strategy of going lower than their original counter offer.

You tell a chick you have 4000 for toda la noche.  She says no baby, I want $100 US.   The guy says ok, I'll give you 3500 for all night.  Here's my number,  let me know if you want the 4000.   Or we can go now for 3500 pesos.   Chick looks at him like he's crazy. and walks away.  But maybe that chick will think about it,  and come back for that 4000. 

Then she can save face, because it will feel like she accepted it on her terms , instead of the guys.   Because deep down she knows $100 is too gotdamn high.   But she put her self out there with that high ass test price, and it's hard to come back down to reality without looking like she lost.   Especially if she looks decent enough.         

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6coA9HX12c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6coA9HX12c)   Ten Things We Hate About Ghana | Negatives of Living in Ghana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385pVmiM_Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385pVmiM_Z8)   Pulled Over in Ghana (Police Corruption in Africa?) | Should You Bribe the Ghana Police
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on March 13, 2021, 07:09:35 PM


You've got to love the internet!! Instant information at it's best. Also if you think going to Costa Rica, Columbia, or other South American or Caribbean countries will keep you from getting the Shakedown by law enforcement, please!! The early morning or late night Shakedown from STI to Sosúa has been going on for years. Almost every country I have been to that is not economically close to the USA there is some form of Shakedown on foreigners. Especially when traveling late night or early morning hours. I've been hit in Columbia, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Mexico, Brazil, Thailand, Ghana, and even China. Understand that your rules and values don't mean shit in another country. If you travel long enough you understand that you are a target and easy money to them. Keep a little bit of bribe money separate from your main stash and say that's it and they will let you go on your way.
You are damn right about getting the shakedown aint just a DR thing.  World travelers already know better.   You mentioned Ghana as one place, and just last night I watched a video of a black couple from Texas who give info on what it's like living in Ghana.    I think they are fixing to move there full time.  They named their top ten things they disliked about Ghana.   And some of the things they mentioned,  they might as well have been talking about the DR.   Number two on their list was about corruption.   

How one may be subject to being shaken down at their road check points ( sound familiar ).   Including sometimes getting things done may come in the form of having to bribe or pay someone.   You have to negotiate because thats what they do there.  And as a foreigner, they may attempt to tax you on the prices of just about anything if locals can get away with it. 

I liked one of the suggestions the husband gave when it comes to negotiation.  He said when you are quoted a price on something,  automatically counter offer with half of what the seller wants.   Because it's customary that if they give you a price it's grossly inflated.   So he goes straight for half.     If refused and they come down only a little,  he said he counter offers and goes lower than the half price he originally offered.   Thats actually funny.   

In other words,  he is going in the wrong direction in the negotiations that the seller wants to go.   Seeing the sale slipping away, MAY give the seller the incentive to relent and accept the half offer.   Because deep down, that half offer is probably closer to what the seller wants anyway.  They are just trying to get as much as they can, if the customer doesnt know any better.   

I thought about that.   I can see how that may work on occasion in Ghana.    It's worth a try applying that strategy even elsewhere.   Buying an item, renting etc.     May even apply that to sub contracting for juice/pussy.  Except here, it's best to state up front what you pay, not ask the sub contractor how much they want/expect for services.     A lot of foreigners typically dont like to haggle back and forth.  Whereas in many countries in the world, negotiating and haggling is the norm.   Of course one doesnt have to use half as the set point,  they can just adopt the strategy of going lower than their original counter offer.

You tell a chick you have 4000 for toda la noche.  She says no baby, I want $100 US.   The guy says ok, I'll give you 3500 for all night.  Here's my number,  let me know if you want the 4000.   Or we can go now for 3500 pesos.   Chick looks at him like he's crazy. and walks away.  But maybe that chick will think about it,  and come back for that 4000. 

Then she can save face, because it will feel like she accepted it on her terms , instead of the guys.   Because deep down she knows $100 is too gotdamn high.   But she put her self out there with that high ass test price, and it's hard to come back down to reality without looking like she lost.   Especially if she looks decent enough.         

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6coA9HX12c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6coA9HX12c)   Ten Things We Hate About Ghana | Negatives of Living in Ghana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385pVmiM_Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385pVmiM_Z8)   Pulled Over in Ghana (Police Corruption in Africa?) | Should You Bribe the Ghana Police

Stellar advice on negotiating. Many of us had third world experience before we made it to Sosua but for some it must be their first time out of their city. Prior third world visits seem to make a difference. Almost no one pays full price for a car or agrees to the listing price on a real estate sale but get angry when we tell them not to ask a Chica how much and in dollars no less, it’s like attacking their manhood.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tarik on March 13, 2021, 07:57:23 PM
Going from STI to Infinity Blu in Sousa 3-2 at 3am I was stopped and ROBBED by POLICIA. YES, I said ROBBED.

They pulled me over, first one car with 2 cops and then another car joined them with 1 more cop. They clearly understood I was completely legal and then demanded money to let me continue. I was in no position to argue.

At this point I think this will be my last trip to DR. Costa Rica, Columbia, etc will be my new destinations.



Why dudes think they can be out at night during curfew hours in these f--kin rental cars and think it's a game just behooves me!! If you are out in ???? that's NOT being driven by the taxi mafia and IN SOSUA, in my opinion you get exactly what coming to you. You KNOW the rules...so don't come on here whining.

If for some reason you choose to take that retarded 230am flight into STI just wait until sun up and catch the fkn bus!

I take this flight because it’s the only one available. And I am totally within the rules, read them. If your broke ass wants to wait and take a bus , have at it. If I want to take a rental car at 3am LEGALLY then I shouldn’t be ROBBED by National Police for doing so. It’s bad for tourism and last I checked that’s important to this country.

Nah lil buddy, MY BROKE ASS just flies into POP.....around 12-2PM. 15 mins I'm out of the airport and 15 mins later I'm at my pad, 15 mins later I'm unpacked, chica proofed, took a shower, 15 mins later I'm in some skins.....while your BROKE DUMB ASS still in the states waiting at whatever redneck airport you fly out of since you can't afford to fly into POP.

My redneck Airport is Detroit and I’m not taking 21 hrs and 3 layovers to get to POP.

You must be flying Spirit or something

American has a daily flight to MIA every morning than you fly on to POP from there. 

Been on it several times

It leaves around 6:30am and you are in POP by mid afternoon 

If it's taking you 3 layovers and 21 hours to get from DTW to POP your doing something wrong

See thus is how u expose dudes who full of shit. What you think we can't look this stuff up??!

Like I thought DTW has a flight that leaves in the morning and have you POP at 2pm with ONE 2 hour layover in MIA! Not no 2-3 layover as you said and definitely NOT a 3AM arrival.

So like I said you either broke or flying out of a redneck town! Try again....

You've got to love the internet!! Instant information at it's best. Also if you think going to Costa Rica, Columbia, or other South American or Caribbean countries will keep you from getting the Shakedown by law enforcement, please!! The early morning or late night Shakedown from STI to Sosúa has been going on for years. Almost every country I have been to that is not economically close to the USA there is some form of Shakedown on foreigners. Especially when traveling late night or early morning hours. I've been hit in Columbia, Honduras, Guatemala, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Mexico, Brazil, Thailand, Ghana, and even China. Understand that your rules and values don't mean shit in another country. If you travel long enough you understand that you are a target and easy money to them. Keep a little bit of bribe money separate from your main stash and say that's it and they will let you go on your way.

Really? Been to most of those countries, more than once, and never experienced that bullshit. In DR, I got pulled over for legit speeding, twice. 1000 pesos, half the fine due, and I was on my way. Other than that, never any problems from anyone.

Why the f--k is it so hard to just follow the rules? We're guests in someone else's country, damn near every meaningful law they have can be easily followed by just some common sense and a little courtesy.

I've never had problems with cops, chicas, hustlers, none of that. WTF is up with so many nuggas who have so many damn problems?

My theory, such as it is, is that many of them act stupidly back home, too, and revel in making poor life choices. That explains the weight, the bad hygiene, and the general nasty-ass tendencies so often on display in here.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 14, 2021, 08:11:00 AM

Really? Been to most of those countries, more than once, and never experienced that bullshit. In DR, I got pulled over for legit speeding, twice. 1000 pesos, half the fine due, and I was on my way. Other than that, never any problems from anyone.

Why the f--k is it so hard to just follow the rules? We're guests in someone else's country, damn near every meaningful law they have can be easily followed by just some common sense and a little courtesy.

I've never had problems with cops, chicas, hustlers, none of that. WTF is up with so many nuggas who have so many damn problems?

My theory, such as it is, is that many of them act stupidly back home, too, and revel in making poor life choices. That explains the weight, the bad hygiene, and the general nasty-ass tendencies so often on display in here.
There is no distinct connection between what you did not experience and what others may have experienced.  Unless of course you know the particulars and variables that apply.    Which I doubt.   You seem to be content with assuming and using conjecture to make unsubstantiated conclusions.   

It makes no sense to make some loose inference implying stupidity or poor life choices for others , just because some people had different experiences than you did.  In fact, it makes no sense for one lone person to compare himself to what amounts to maybe hundreds,  maybe thousands of people,  and imply that there must be something wrong with them, because you did not experience what they may have.   

The main variables that can apply to anyones situation is,  the right/wrong circumstances, at the right/wrong time.   When stupidity is or poor life choices are known, then one can speak confidently that that may have some bearing on ones misfortunes.   But dont make that shit up and try to make it stick aimlessly at folks you dont even know.   

Speculative inferences or coincidental implications, does not prove causation or substantiate a theory.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 14, 2021, 08:26:33 AM
Daylight Savings in effect.

A reminder,  the DR and the east coast of the US are now on the same time zone/frame.   Daylight Savings Time moved the time ahead an hour in the US    It's almost 9:30 am here in Sosua, and it's the same time in Miami, New York etc.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Flyguy954 on March 14, 2021, 08:57:29 AM
Boots on the ground at Ahnvee. The spot is busy. Good amount of chicas. On the looks scale, it varies, but you’ll be able to find what you want.

Some chicas trying to push the ST rate up past 3,000 pesos. Pause. ????✋

Generally, I’m not going for it. Nothing more than 3,500 if push comes to shove and it’s an absolute must have. It’s important to draw the line in the sand. There’s no benefit to having a strong dollar if you’re gonna overpay these chicas like you’re in the U.S.

Have I been able to get what I want? Absolutely. But the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. f--k around and DR rates are gonna be looking like $100 USD average rates in Costa Rica. How such a scenario could even be plausible is mind boggling considering the exchange rate between USD & DOP.

As a write this, a tall, good looking chica with a nice body that I would rate as an 8, just hit me on WhatsApp with a $200 USD TLN quote. ???? Mind you, she told me earlier that she’s sharing a room and an open bathroom with like 3 or 4 other chicas, lol. Yet still, she’s willing to price herself out of a comfortable stay overnight in the pent house with just me, rather than just coming with a reasonable quote out the gate that I might accept.

Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????



Listen up fellas the Game in Sosua has changed on pricing. These chicas are demanding $100hr+ and up to 200TLN. I bagged a couple between the 2500 -3500 range but the majority of them are demanding higher. Crazy I watched alot go back to they cramped room empty handed rather then take 3000 pesos for an hour worth of work . The business logic blows me, and don't say oh I bag 9s and 10s for 2500 that's BS . She's likely a modified 5 with low clientele to constantly take 2500 on the regular,  the really bad ones are asking for 100 USD kiddo .

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 14, 2021, 10:07:03 AM
Solutions, Considerations?

1.  Guys should not rely on subcontracting directly from chicks in Sosua.   

2. Dont be too alarmed by a $100 demand.  A % in that bunch are just playing hard ball.  In some cases a quick negotiation can sort out a reasonable arrangement.   One thing fails to be factored in.  The reality that many guys just give up the moment they hear a chicks high ass quote/demand.  A demand is a demand only when it's proven through negotiation the chick absolutely wont budge.   Enough men never get that far.   They quit the moment the chick blurts out what she hopes to get.     

3.Another % in the bunch are inflating their cost for services because of the particular client.   Shabby appearance, health issues , age or hygiene, may come into play.   Or maybe she has a slew of potential clients to choose to service,  so quoting a high price will either get things popping,  or make it easier for her to walk away not feeling she missed out on anything.   Then she can tend to her potentials with peace of mind.   Thats why guys should consider offering a chick their number, dont just walk away disgusted.   She may decide to follow up which can lead to potentially doing business later.   

4. Another reason not to be alarmed.  If some chicks are getting guys to pay the higher prices,  there is a reasonable probability where a chick may have made her quota/minimum.   And now can relax and accept a more reasonable offer that is lower than her demand.   In other words,  not every client gets the same demand or expectation from a sub contractor.   Being at the right time and place, means everything.   

5. If a sub contractor sees the potential to be steadily employed or additional perks,  she may offer her services at a rate that may be lower than what she expects from the one and done employer.   

6. As long as it is quite apparent and obvious there are women in the mix sorting out reasonable offers with potential employers,  there is no reason to have a gloom and doom perception of what the majority of hoes are supposedly demanding.   

The way it is now in Sosua, just makes the hunt ( or being hunted ) more challenging, and less boring.    A man doesnt need to be concerned about the prices for the majority of hoes and what those hoes demand.  Just f--k the few that are available ( to him ) that meet his criteria ( attraction,price etc ).   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on March 14, 2021, 10:36:54 AM
Can someone please explain to me at what point does a girl demand $100 - $200.. Help me out by walking me through the process.
1. What’s the conversation?
2. Who starts the money discussion?
3. Why are guys not standing on what there willing to pay over what a girl is demanding.
2500 - 3500 for two hours, end of discussion!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 14, 2021, 11:11:14 AM
Can someone please explain to me at what point does a girl demand $100 - $200.. Help me out by walking me through the process.
1. What’s the conversation?
2. Who starts the money discussion?
3. Why are guys not standing on what there willing to pay over what a girl is demanding.
2500 - 3500 for two hours, end of discussion!
In enough instances,  the guy starts the convo.   He gets the chicks attention, or she gets his attention.  Guy starts with :   "Hey baby, blah blah blah"   She responds  "Hola Papi blah blah blah,"    He gets to the point   "How much you looking fer baby?"

Now with the ball somewhat in the chicks court because he asked "how much baby?",  she responds  "$100/150/200 baby."

If what comes out of her mouth is unsatisfactory, the guy makes a face, and just walks away.   In enough instances that is as far as it goes.   Guys who dont give a f--k about price,  ask the chick the price as an icebreaker.  They intend to f--k the chick regardless of her price.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on March 14, 2021, 11:42:37 AM
Can someone please explain to me at what point does a girl demand $100 - $200.. Help me out by walking me through the process.
1. What’s the conversation?
2. Who starts the money discussion?
3. Why are guys not standing on what there willing to pay over what a girl is demanding.
2500 - 3500 for two hours, end of discussion!
In enough instances,  the guy starts the convo.   He gets the chicks attention, or she gets his attention.  Guy starts with :   "Hey baby, blah blah blah"   She responds  "Hola Papi blah blah blah,"    He gets to the point   "How much you looking fer baby?"

Now with the ball somewhat in the chicks court because he asked "how much baby?",  she responds  "$100/150/200 baby."

If what comes out of her mouth is unsatisfactory, the guy makes a face, and just walks away.   In enough instances that is as far as it goes.   Guys who dont give a f--k about price,  ask the chick the price as an icebreaker.  They intend to f--k the chick regardless of her price.       
And there you have it... HOW MUCH....What goes through the girls mind.
1. Must be his first time.
2. Weak
3. I can run my game.
For you $150 mi amor for one hour. (@Murano facts) and the guys response.
1. That bitch tripping
2. Only $150.!!! Hell I’ll give you $200..????????
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on March 14, 2021, 12:43:55 PM
The lesson here is don’t throw away good pussy in a search for different. If you had fun with a chick circle back around and hit her once or twice more during your trip. Next trip make sure to hit it at least once again if she’s in town. After a while you got you a little crew. When shit goes south in Sosua as it has now you got options. Guys complaining about $100 ST at Ahnvee while I’m trying to find a way to fit in the eight chicks that are blowing up my WhatsApp.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on March 14, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
The lesson here is don’t throw away good pussy in a search for different. If you had fun with a chick circle back around and hit her once or twice more during your trip. Next trip make sure to hit it at least once again if she’s in town. After a while you got you a little crew. When shit goes south in Sosua as it has now you got options. Guys complaining about $100 ST at Ahnvee while I’m trying to find a way to fit in the eight chicks that are blowing up my WhatsApp.

Nothing but facts
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on March 14, 2021, 02:13:54 PM
Can someone please explain to me at what point does a girl demand $100 - $200.. Help me out by walking me through the process.
1. What’s the conversation?
2. Who starts the money discussion?
3. Why are guys not standing on what there willing to pay over what a girl is demanding.
2500 - 3500 for two hours, end of discussion!
In enough instances,  the guy starts the convo.   He gets the chicks attention, or she gets his attention.  Guy starts with :   "Hey baby, blah blah blah"   She responds  "Hola Papi blah blah blah,"    He gets to the point   "How much you looking fer baby?"

Now with the ball somewhat in the chicks court because he asked "how much baby?",  she responds  "$100/150/200 baby."

If what comes out of her mouth is unsatisfactory, the guy makes a face, and just walks away.   In enough instances that is as far as it goes.   Guys who dont give a f--k about price,  ask the chick the price as an icebreaker.  They intend to f--k the chick regardless of her price.       
And there you have it... HOW MUCH....What goes through the girls mind.
1. Must be his first time.
2. Weak
3. I can run my game.
For you $150 mi amor for one hour. (@Murano facts) and the guys response.
1. That bitch tripping
2. Only $150.!!! Hell I’ll give you $200..????????

I have actually seen this modification to the approach.

Weekend warrior: "Yo Tommy, go ask that bitch how much?"
Tommy: "Yo Bitch, my boy wants to know how much?"
$2000RD Chica "one hundred"
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on March 14, 2021, 03:20:24 PM
Can someone please explain to me at what point does a girl demand $100 - $200.. Help me out by walking me through the process.
1. What’s the conversation?
2. Who starts the money discussion?
3. Why are guys not standing on what there willing to pay over what a girl is demanding.
2500 - 3500 for two hours, end of discussion!
In enough instances,  the guy starts the convo.   He gets the chicks attention, or she gets his attention.  Guy starts with :   "Hey baby, blah blah blah"   She responds  "Hola Papi blah blah blah,"    He gets to the point   "How much you looking fer baby?"

Now with the ball somewhat in the chicks court because he asked "how much baby?",  she responds  "$100/150/200 baby."

If what comes out of her mouth is unsatisfactory, the guy makes a face, and just walks away.   In enough instances that is as far as it goes.   Guys who dont give a f--k about price,  ask the chick the price as an icebreaker.  They intend to f--k the chick regardless of her price.       
And there you have it... HOW MUCH....What goes through the girls mind.
1. Must be his first time.
2. Weak
3. I can run my game.
For you $150 mi amor for one hour. (@Murano facts) and the guys response.
1. That bitch tripping
2. Only $150.!!! Hell I’ll give you $200..????????

I have actually seen this modification to the approach.

Weekend warrior: "Yo Tommy, go ask that bitch how much?"
Tommy: "Yo Bitch, my boy wants to know how much?"
$2000RD Chica "one hundred"

LMAO! your killing me
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Flyguy954 on March 14, 2021, 05:27:49 PM
Great advice fellas . I'm definitely not new to sosua so I'm hip to the game. Weeding thru the pros and never allowing them to lead the convo on pricing . I think I hold my own appearance wise - younger guy 6'7 athletic build clean cut , have to beat them off with a stick honestly . I have a pretty good rotation of regulars but hell in sosua there's always another hot one bending the corner and wanting to sample new mangoes is ever so tempting . Aiming for anything thing above average on my scale ( 8-10s ) I've notice are holding pretty FIRM on 100+. Dont get me wrong There's plenty to have at the 3k price point but the upper quality definitely rebuttal for higher and talking in USD. Which i play dumb to because I got a pocket full of Pesos why would I quote you in USD .

Overall I feel sosua is changing from the Good ole quick bargain weekend mongering spot.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 14, 2021, 05:44:35 PM
Simps  and the uninformed  mongers pay stratosphere  prices !  Nah.  Bargains can be had do your home work.   I just returned from a 15 day trip and stayed at sosua  suites. this old few old time vets were takeing down multiple  chicas per day.  These vets were paying any where from 1000 pesos up to 3000 all day long  if the chica did not accept  the price onto the next Also note. Import good repeat chicas as well. No need to being to be paying Anvhee prices.    Just my observations !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on March 14, 2021, 05:50:40 PM
Great advice fellas . I'm definitely not new to sosua so I'm hip to the game. Weeding thru the pros and never allowing them to lead the convo on pricing . I think I hold my own appearance wise - younger guy 6'7 athletic build clean cut , have to beat them off with a stick honestly . I have a pretty good rotation of regulars but hell in sosua there's always another hot one bending the corner and wanting to sample new mangoes is ever so tempting . Aiming for anything thing above average on my scale ( 8-10s ) I've notice are holding pretty FIRM on 100+. Dont get me wrong There's plenty to have at the 3k price point but the upper quality definitely rebuttal for higher and talking in USD. Which i play dumb to because I got a pocket full of Pesos why would I quote you in USD .

Overall I feel sosua is changing from the Good ole quick bargain weekend mongering spot.

Glad you’re enjoying yourself. Carry on young man.  ????

By the way, we don’t refer to the DR women as “mangoes” around here. We refer to them as chicas. “Mangoes” is a term made up by ignorant overpayers. Don’t follow them, lol.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Flyguy954 on March 14, 2021, 08:11:05 PM
10/4  my G ! Definitely still making the most of it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on March 16, 2021, 02:28:00 PM
 Bad news. The peso has appreciated. The current exchange is 56.70 to $1.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on March 16, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
C'mon now...Remember to Hold the Line!
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 17, 2021, 10:42:50 AM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/gobierno-amplia-el-horario-de-toque-de-queda-el-viernes-santo-y-restringe-venta-de-bebidas-alcoholicas-GD25048916 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/gobierno-amplia-el-horario-de-toque-de-queda-el-viernes-santo-y-restringe-venta-de-bebidas-alcoholicas-GD25048916)

The following has been translated from Spanish :

Government extends curfew hours on Good Friday and restricts sale of alcoholic beverages
Most of the measures already in place to control COVID-19 are maintained


The Executive Branch ordered that the curfew on Good Friday, Holy Saturday and Easter Sunday begin at 7:00 at night until 5:00 in the morning of the next day , the same as the current schedule during the weekends .

Through decree 171-21 , a grace of free circulation of three additional hours is also granted, so that people arrive at their homes.

The sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages for consumption in public places and establishments, as well as in private ones for public use, was also prohibited.

President Luis Abinader maintains all the measures provided in Decree 133-21 in force until April 15.

This means that the curfew, from Monday to Friday, will be from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m., throughout the national territory and on weekends from 7:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

The grace of free movement of three hours is maintained for people to reach their homes.

Edit :  Semana Santa observance is Friday April 2,  Saturday April 3rd, and Sunday April 4th.     These are the dates where the curfew will be 7pm to 5am.   Also the 3 hours grace period for transit also applies for this holiday. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 20, 2021, 01:38:50 AM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/03/19/237-bathing-resorts-to-be-closed-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-during-easter-week/
 (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/03/19/237-bathing-resorts-to-be-closed-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-during-easter-week/)

237 bathing resorts to be closed to prevent spread of Covid-19 during Easter Week

As part of the measures to be developed during the Easter Week operation, the Civil Defense announced that 237 bathing resorts would be closed.

According to Brigadier General Rafael Antonio Carrasco Paulino, the closure of the resorts was recommended by the Disaster Prevention, Mitigation, and Response (PMR) Committees led by the governors and mayors at the provincial and municipal levels.

Carrasco Paulino calls on citizens who go to beaches and rivers to maintain prudence and follow the Health authorities’ protocols to prevent the spread of Covid-19.

“From now on, we formally start the preventive stage of our Operational Plan Easter Week 2021, with which we seek to provide timely care to people who will move inland and who will make use of the beaches and rivers enabled,” he explained.

During the operation, 10,518 volunteers and employees will participate, distributed in 431 posts on highways and 408 aid stations located on beaches and spas.


My initial take :  Playa Sosua , Playa in Puerto Plata, Playa Cabarete, Playa Alicia and Playa Chiquita ARE NOT on the list of beaches/watering places designated to be closed on the 3 day holiday weekend.   That being the case, it is quite possible more locals may show up to these beaches since so many of the other public watering places will be closed. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 20, 2021, 01:54:22 AM
https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/03/19/661972/lista-de-los-237-balnearios-clausurados-por-la-defensa-civil-en-semana-santa
 (https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/03/19/661972/lista-de-los-237-balnearios-clausurados-por-la-defensa-civil-en-semana-santa)
List of the 237 spas closed by the Civil Defense at Easter

The following is translated from Spanish.  Note :  Beaches, Spas, Watering Places, Public Bathing and Swimming locations are included in thse closures.   If my eyes serve me right, I scanned the list a few times. For the north coast only, Playa Sosua, Playa Cabarete, Playa in Puerto Plata, Playa Alicia or Playa Chiquita were not on the list for closure during the Semana Santa Holiday weekend. 

Santo Domingo, RD.
The Civil Defense announced this Friday the 237 spas that were closed for the Easter 2021 operation, which seeks to preserve the lives of citizens.

Below is the list of the closed spas:

San Souci Beach (Punta Torrecilla)
Coastal Coast Avenida España / Las Américas
Spring Hipódromo V Centenario
Rivera Rio Ozama (La Barquita - El Dique)
Manrreza Beach
Charco Manoguayabo
Puente Palavé Welcome
Guagua / Manoguayabo Control
Rio Mal Nombre
Rio Isabela Norte
El Ocho La Victoria
Manatí La Victoria / La Ceiba
El Pozo La Malena / East Highway
La Posita Cucama / La Malena
Pozo Bayohan / La Malena
Bayona / La Malena
Yabacao El Cabreto
The War Dam
Yabacao Northeast Highway Bridge
La Poza / Hato Nuevo
La Mina / Batey Dairy
Suberví / La Cuaba
Beach Montesinos
Beach Guibia Beach
Dam of the Mijo River in La Luisa
El Caimito Spa, El Talao, Chirino
El Resbalon
La Represa / Rio Yabacao
Half Face
El Charco del Guardia
El Manguito
Charco de Mercedes Reyes
Los Rieles Km 35
Bridge Los Botado
Rio Zapote
Mouth Arroyo Pastor
La Peñita, in front of the Corasan Treatment Plant Up to Rafey
Mouth Arroyo La Zursa
Dam La Otra Banda


Mouth of Arroyo de Gurabo
Matanza Mine Lagoon
Ulises Francisco Espaillat and Miguel Bogaert Channel
Taveras
Dam Bao
Dam López Angostura Dam
Arroyo Hondo, passing through Rafei Reguio
Channels
Spa Timbeque Southern part
Peñita de Corazan to Rafei (Yaque del Norte River)
El Papayo
La Hilera Dam / Cabarete
El Canal / Cabarete
Sozua Ocean Village / Cabarete
Mouth of the Jasica River
El Charco de la Muerte, After the Jet.
Las Canas Gaspar Hernández

The Gen / Gaspar Hernández

Playa Olis / After Cones Gapar Hernández

Puddle Stone Jet

The Malecon / Gaspar Hernández

La Compuerta Spa (El Dique)

The Charco De La Garza

El Charco De Juana Vieja

Boquerón Spa

Guanajuma Dam

Potrero Dam

Sabana Larga Dam

Estancia Vieja Spa

El Charco Bomba Spa

Las Siete Aguas Charco Spa / The Baden Estancia Vieja

Saltadero Rio Yaguajay Spa / Cercadillo

La Presa De Monsion Spa

Bulla Spa

El Apocento / La Lana Spa

Quilito Gate Km 17

Dique De Juan Gómez Rio Yaque Spa

Spa Under Bridge Rio Yaque Del Norte Palo Verde

Chacuey Dam

Los Indios Beach

La Barca Spa

Dique De La Antona Spa Rio Guayubin

Sifon Canal Mayor Spa, Villa Vásquez

River Mouth Spa Massacre

Hawaii Beach

El Bufeadero Beach

El Uno Spa

Rio Bajito Spa

La Manguita Spa

El Puente Rio Magua Spa

El Muelle Munc Spa. Comfort

Batey Verde Rio Soco Spa

El Cocal Rio Soco Spa

El Canal Rio Soco Spa, Ramón Santana

Paso De Villalona Ramón Santana Spa

Paso De Juan Díaz Ramón Santana Beach Resort

La Gallera Rio Soco Spa / Ramón Santana

El Arroyo Spa / Ramón Santana Municipality

Paso Colon Ramón Santana Spa

El Puente Rio Soco Ramón Santana Beach

Rio Soco Mouth Section El Soco

El Tocón Spa, Magua River, Consuelo Municipality

La Playita Spa, Magua River, Consuelo Municipality

Las Cabullitas Beach, Place H-3 Juan Dolio

El Caño Spa Municipality Quisqueya

Cabo Engaño Beach

Rio Sanate / In La Represa

Macau vs. the Navy

Rio Mira Patos

Holes Of Salado De La Ceiba

Hoyo Azul Spa

Round Stone Spa

Punta Del Rey Beach

El Paso Del Coco / Rio Magua

El Paso de Josecito

Rio Chavón Dam

Las Tres Aguas Beach La Caleta Beach

Alto De Rio Dulce Spa

Caleta Baquetón

Rio Cumayasa, Cold Waters

Sandy Channel

The Pimentel Dip

Canal El Paraiso / Las Guaranas

The Crystal Lagoon 1 and 2 of Barraquito

The Siphon Of Las Guaranas

La Cayena Beach

Acapulco Beach

La Preciosa Beach

El Calentó del Amor Spa

La Posita Beach

El Malecón Beach

Chinguela Beach

El Francés Beach

El Valle Beach

Gran Estero Beach In La Majagua

Chombito Beach

Almendro Beach

Boca Del Rio Beach

Messina Beach

El Morrón Beach

C Norte Beach

La Cana Beach

La Poza, Jarabacoa

Salto De Jimenoa Jarabacoa (Where The Waterfall Falls)

Salto De Baiguate (Where The Waterfall Falls)

Rio Jima, Lower Part

Tavera Dam Entrance Spa

Jina Entrance Spa

Conuco Viejo Spa

Bao Entrance Spa

The Dam Above The Burned / The Burned

Charco Palo de la Garza / Maimon

Rio Colorado / Maimon

Wasp Stream / First White Bridge

Masipedro / Part Of The Waterfall

The Old Bridge of Sonador

La Cascada Spa (Fula 3 El Peñón)

Los Bambues Cotui Spa

Las Lajas Cotui Spa

La Trifulcacion Spa Rio Yuna Cotui

Los Negritos Spa Yuna Cotui River

Balneario Los Viveros De Uteco

Hatillo Dam Reservoir

Rio Yuna Bridge Spa

Los Bambues Cotui Spa

Las Lajas Cotui Spa

La Trifulcacion Spa Rio Yuna Cotui

Los Negritos Spa Yuna Cotui River

Balneario Los Viveros De Uteco

Hatillo Dam Reservoir

Rio Yuna Bridge Spa

Closed Peravia

Closed

La Fonita Beach / In El Cachón De Matanzas

La Posa Beach / And Cachón La Posa In Matanzas

Los Almendros Beach

Playa Agua De Mi Estancia (The Germans)

Paya Beach

Sabana Uvero Beach

Nizao Beach At The Mouth Of The River

Under the Lucas Dias Bridge

Under The Nizao Bridge

Nizao Beach

El Derrumbao / De Salinas

El Corbanal Beach

The Chigger Canyons

The Rio Nigua Bridge

The Mangroves Area Inside Pisa Industrial Park

Los Amaceyes Area Campo Universidad De La Unphu.

Los Tres Muertos Beach Nigua / Carlos Pinto Najayo Valdesia Beach

Playa Linda Km. 18 Inside the Itabo-Pisa Industrial Park

Rio La Urca The Wall

Water Outlet From The Caasd

Remove sleep

Linda Beach (Itabo Park)

Vacation Beach

The Puerto De Haina Spring

Baden Km 40 Haina River

La Playita Del Barrio

San Rafael Beach

Ñoño Beach

Nizao River Nizao River Mouth

El Charco De Miguelon La Jagua Community

Under the Nizao River Bridge

Charco Grancera Mombraca Influence Area Rio Nizao

Drink Water Caasd, Quita Dreams District

Arroyo La Urca, Community La Pared District El Carril

Salto La Estruchura

The Canchon

Avocado Dam All Peripheral Zone

Puddles The Two Brothers

La Toma In Bayona Los Ranchitos

The Jump Of The 3 Brothers Of Parra

San Rafael Beach / San Rafael

Bahoruco / Bahoruco Beach

Playa Azul / Barahona

Los Patos Beach / Paraíso

Ojeda Beach

Acapulco Beach / Villa Central

El Cayo Beach / Villa Central

Rio Caño Beach

El Estero Beach

Caleton Beach

Salinas Beach

Playa Paraíso // Right Side

The Dam

La Furnia, Barrio Arriba

The Santana Dam

The Santana Reserve

The Well of Romeo (Carret. Oviedo / Pedernales Km 12)

El Caney Beach

Biyeya Beach

Sabana Yegua Dam

Tabara Down Dam

The Fall Punta Cana

Maguana Above Waterfall

Charco De Don Felipe

El Eden / In The Banks

Las Tres Pailas La Piña Sabaneta

The Ingenito Sabaneta

La Resbalosa Los Bancos

Puddle Of Pirin

Charco Rio Vallejuelo

Charco Rio Vallejuelo La Colonia

The Embouchure

The Cowhide Puddle

Hato Viejo De Comendador
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on March 20, 2021, 11:19:58 AM
https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/03/19/661972/lista-de-los-237-balnearios-clausurados-por-la-defensa-civil-en-semana-santa
 (https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/03/19/661972/lista-de-los-237-balnearios-clausurados-por-la-defensa-civil-en-semana-santa)
List of the 237 spas closed by the Civil Defense at Easter

The following is translated from Spanish.  Note :  Beaches, Spas, Watering Places, Public Bathing and Swimming locations are included in thse closures.   If my eyes serve me right, I scanned the list a few times. For the north coast only, Playa Sosua, Playa Cabarete, Playa in Puerto Plata, Playa Alicia or Playa Chiquita were not on the list for closure during the Semana Santa Holiday weekend. 

Santo Domingo, RD.
The Civil Defense announced this Friday the 237 spas that were closed for the Easter 2021 operation, which seeks to preserve the lives of citizens.

Below is the list of the closed spas:

San Souci Beach (Punta Torrecilla)
Coastal Coast Avenida España / Las Américas
Spring Hipódromo V Centenario
Rivera Rio Ozama (La Barquita - El Dique)
Manrreza Beach
Charco Manoguayabo
Puente Palavé Welcome
Guagua / Manoguayabo Control
Rio Mal Nombre
Rio Isabela Norte
El Ocho La Victoria
Manatí La Victoria / La Ceiba
El Pozo La Malena / East Highway
La Posita Cucama / La Malena
Pozo Bayohan / La Malena
Bayona / La Malena
Yabacao El Cabreto
The War Dam
Yabacao Northeast Highway Bridge
La Poza / Hato Nuevo
La Mina / Batey Dairy
Suberví / La Cuaba
Beach Montesinos
Beach Guibia Beach
Dam of the Mijo River in La Luisa
El Caimito Spa, El Talao, Chirino
El Resbalon
La Represa / Rio Yabacao
Half Face
El Charco del Guardia
El Manguito
Charco de Mercedes Reyes
Los Rieles Km 35
Bridge Los Botado
Rio Zapote
Mouth Arroyo Pastor
La Peñita, in front of the Corasan Treatment Plant Up to Rafey
Mouth Arroyo La Zursa
Dam La Otra Banda


Mouth of Arroyo de Gurabo
Matanza Mine Lagoon
Ulises Francisco Espaillat and Miguel Bogaert Channel
Taveras
Dam Bao
Dam López Angostura Dam
Arroyo Hondo, passing through Rafei Reguio
Channels
Spa Timbeque Southern part
Peñita de Corazan to Rafei (Yaque del Norte River)
El Papayo
La Hilera Dam / Cabarete
El Canal / Cabarete
Sozua Ocean Village / Cabarete
Mouth of the Jasica River
El Charco de la Muerte, After the Jet.
Las Canas Gaspar Hernández

The Gen / Gaspar Hernández

Playa Olis / After Cones Gapar Hernández

Puddle Stone Jet

The Malecon / Gaspar Hernández

La Compuerta Spa (El Dique)

The Charco De La Garza

El Charco De Juana Vieja

Boquerón Spa

Guanajuma Dam

Potrero Dam

Sabana Larga Dam

Estancia Vieja Spa

El Charco Bomba Spa

Las Siete Aguas Charco Spa / The Baden Estancia Vieja

Saltadero Rio Yaguajay Spa / Cercadillo

La Presa De Monsion Spa

Bulla Spa

El Apocento / La Lana Spa

Quilito Gate Km 17

Dique De Juan Gómez Rio Yaque Spa

Spa Under Bridge Rio Yaque Del Norte Palo Verde

Chacuey Dam

Los Indios Beach

La Barca Spa

Dique De La Antona Spa Rio Guayubin

Sifon Canal Mayor Spa, Villa Vásquez

River Mouth Spa Massacre

Hawaii Beach

El Bufeadero Beach

El Uno Spa

Rio Bajito Spa

La Manguita Spa

El Puente Rio Magua Spa

El Muelle Munc Spa. Comfort

Batey Verde Rio Soco Spa

El Cocal Rio Soco Spa

El Canal Rio Soco Spa, Ramón Santana

Paso De Villalona Ramón Santana Spa

Paso De Juan Díaz Ramón Santana Beach Resort

La Gallera Rio Soco Spa / Ramón Santana

El Arroyo Spa / Ramón Santana Municipality

Paso Colon Ramón Santana Spa

El Puente Rio Soco Ramón Santana Beach

Rio Soco Mouth Section El Soco

El Tocón Spa, Magua River, Consuelo Municipality

La Playita Spa, Magua River, Consuelo Municipality

Las Cabullitas Beach, Place H-3 Juan Dolio

El Caño Spa Municipality Quisqueya

Cabo Engaño Beach

Rio Sanate / In La Represa

Macau vs. the Navy

Rio Mira Patos

Holes Of Salado De La Ceiba

Hoyo Azul Spa

Round Stone Spa

Punta Del Rey Beach

El Paso Del Coco / Rio Magua

El Paso de Josecito

Rio Chavón Dam

Las Tres Aguas Beach La Caleta Beach

Alto De Rio Dulce Spa

Caleta Baquetón

Rio Cumayasa, Cold Waters

Sandy Channel

The Pimentel Dip

Canal El Paraiso / Las Guaranas

The Crystal Lagoon 1 and 2 of Barraquito

The Siphon Of Las Guaranas

La Cayena Beach

Acapulco Beach

La Preciosa Beach

El Calentó del Amor Spa

La Posita Beach

El Malecón Beach

Chinguela Beach

El Francés Beach

El Valle Beach

Gran Estero Beach In La Majagua

Chombito Beach

Almendro Beach

Boca Del Rio Beach

Messina Beach

El Morrón Beach

C Norte Beach

La Cana Beach

La Poza, Jarabacoa

Salto De Jimenoa Jarabacoa (Where The Waterfall Falls)

Salto De Baiguate (Where The Waterfall Falls)

Rio Jima, Lower Part

Tavera Dam Entrance Spa

Jina Entrance Spa

Conuco Viejo Spa

Bao Entrance Spa

The Dam Above The Burned / The Burned

Charco Palo de la Garza / Maimon

Rio Colorado / Maimon

Wasp Stream / First White Bridge

Masipedro / Part Of The Waterfall

The Old Bridge of Sonador

La Cascada Spa (Fula 3 El Peñón)

Los Bambues Cotui Spa

Las Lajas Cotui Spa

La Trifulcacion Spa Rio Yuna Cotui

Los Negritos Spa Yuna Cotui River

Balneario Los Viveros De Uteco

Hatillo Dam Reservoir

Rio Yuna Bridge Spa

Los Bambues Cotui Spa

Las Lajas Cotui Spa

La Trifulcacion Spa Rio Yuna Cotui

Los Negritos Spa Yuna Cotui River

Balneario Los Viveros De Uteco

Hatillo Dam Reservoir

Rio Yuna Bridge Spa

Closed Peravia

Closed

La Fonita Beach / In El Cachón De Matanzas

La Posa Beach / And Cachón La Posa In Matanzas

Los Almendros Beach

Playa Agua De Mi Estancia (The Germans)

Paya Beach

Sabana Uvero Beach

Nizao Beach At The Mouth Of The River

Under the Lucas Dias Bridge

Under The Nizao Bridge

Nizao Beach

El Derrumbao / De Salinas

El Corbanal Beach

The Chigger Canyons

The Rio Nigua Bridge

The Mangroves Area Inside Pisa Industrial Park

Los Amaceyes Area Campo Universidad De La Unphu.

Los Tres Muertos Beach Nigua / Carlos Pinto Najayo Valdesia Beach

Playa Linda Km. 18 Inside the Itabo-Pisa Industrial Park

Rio La Urca The Wall

Water Outlet From The Caasd

Remove sleep

Linda Beach (Itabo Park)

Vacation Beach

The Puerto De Haina Spring

Baden Km 40 Haina River

La Playita Del Barrio

San Rafael Beach

Ñoño Beach

Nizao River Nizao River Mouth

El Charco De Miguelon La Jagua Community

Under the Nizao River Bridge

Charco Grancera Mombraca Influence Area Rio Nizao

Drink Water Caasd, Quita Dreams District

Arroyo La Urca, Community La Pared District El Carril

Salto La Estruchura

The Canchon

Avocado Dam All Peripheral Zone

Puddles The Two Brothers

La Toma In Bayona Los Ranchitos

The Jump Of The 3 Brothers Of Parra

San Rafael Beach / San Rafael

Bahoruco / Bahoruco Beach

Playa Azul / Barahona

Los Patos Beach / Paraíso

Ojeda Beach

Acapulco Beach / Villa Central

El Cayo Beach / Villa Central

Rio Caño Beach

El Estero Beach

Caleton Beach

Salinas Beach

Playa Paraíso // Right Side

The Dam

La Furnia, Barrio Arriba

The Santana Dam

The Santana Reserve

The Well of Romeo (Carret. Oviedo / Pedernales Km 12)

El Caney Beach

Biyeya Beach

Sabana Yegua Dam

Tabara Down Dam

The Fall Punta Cana

Maguana Above Waterfall

Charco De Don Felipe

El Eden / In The Banks

Las Tres Pailas La Piña Sabaneta

The Ingenito Sabaneta

La Resbalosa Los Bancos

Puddle Of Pirin

Charco Rio Vallejuelo

Charco Rio Vallejuelo La Colonia

The Embouchure

The Cowhide Puddle

Hato Viejo De Comendador
I wonder if they are going to patrol all those beaches? Some of them are remote and I dont believe they have the manpower to enforce it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on March 20, 2021, 03:33:03 PM
Any chica in Sosua can be had for 2000 or less ST. 5-6'S 1500, If 7-8 say no, offer a propina, 300 por muy bueno, 500 por magnifico. Most will put in the effort to get the top bucks. If they earn it they get on the short list, and will often see them again
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tarik on March 21, 2021, 12:09:37 AM
Boots on the ground at Ahnvee. The spot is busy. Good amount of chicas. On the looks scale, it varies, but you’ll be able to find what you want.

Some chicas trying to push the ST rate up past 3,000 pesos. Pause. ????✋

Generally, I’m not going for it. Nothing more than 3,500 if push comes to shove and it’s an absolute must have. It’s important to draw the line in the sand. There’s no benefit to having a strong dollar if you’re gonna overpay these chicas like you’re in the U.S.

Have I been able to get what I want? Absolutely. But the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. f--k around and DR rates are gonna be looking like $100 USD average rates in Costa Rica. How such a scenario could even be plausible is mind boggling considering the exchange rate between USD & DOP.

As a write this, a tall, good looking chica with a nice body that I would rate as an 8, just hit me on WhatsApp with a $200 USD TLN quote. ???? Mind you, she told me earlier that she’s sharing a room and an open bathroom with like 3 or 4 other chicas, lol. Yet still, she’s willing to price herself out of a comfortable stay overnight in the pent house with just me, rather than just coming with a reasonable quote out the gate that I might accept.

Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????



Listen up fellas the Game in Sosua has changed on pricing. These chicas are demanding $100hr+ and up to 200TLN. I bagged a couple between the 2500 -3500 range but the majority of them are demanding higher. Crazy I watched alot go back to they cramped room empty handed rather then take 3000 pesos for an hour worth of work . The business logic blows me, and don't say oh I bag 9s and 10s for 2500 that's BS . She's likely a modified 5 with low clientele to constantly take 2500 on the regular,  the really bad ones are asking for 100 USD kiddo .

I'm not mad at 'em.

The best chicas are WU'd up or met on social media. They come out for clients who pay well for GFE and/or hold them down via WU. Many of the better girls ain't coming around a bunch of NYC nuggas willing to travel and f--k putas during covid-19.

Which creates a supply and demand issue. Sure, there are tons of chicas in Sosua, but they're scraggly, and don't care much about coming down with a disease. Let that marinate for a minute.

If the supply of better chicas is low, and the demand from disease-vector nuggas is high, then the price is going to go up.

As I've mentioned, one on my team used to work at Pica Flor. We both know what it is, and isn't, so she's fairly candid with me about her life. I don't get bent out of shape if I can't reach her, and she's fine with the fact I'm going to see others during my trips.

They're scared of the virus, and are hesitant to go out with men they don't already know. Obviously, it doesn't make it any safer, but they seem to think so. I was recently out there, they were perfectly happy with going to the beach, swimming in the pool, grabbing take out, staying at the crib, and getting some work a couple times a day. They had NO interest in being around other people, and wore their masks all the time. I pay $100 a day, plus cab and whatever we're eating.

Money VERY well spent, as I was getting blown and laid as much as I wanted. In comparison, that's for about two hours at Top Golf, or dinner and drinks at an okey-doke restaurant.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 21, 2021, 01:38:10 AM
the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. F
Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????
Chicks having the audacity to seek more and it's growing,  is and it isnt necessarily indicative that dudes continue to overpay.  The audacity of chicks seeking more ALSO comes from their own point of references.   For one, chicks have information and intel resources coming from all angles in regards to how they learn the prostitution market, and how it is in other places around the world.   

They learn that women from other countries get paid well.  Not just from straight up prostitution, but even from rackets like legal marriage , divorce, child support and shacking up.  Getting transplanted to a foreign country, and eventually cashing in by divorcing dude and getting paid upon departure.   Dominicans that live abroad school their own on how things work away from the DR. 

DR chicks that got wifed up to a foreigner share with folks back home on how lucrative it is fleecing men around the world.  How enough men are pre programmed to waste time, energy, effort and resources trying to make a woman/women happy or satisfied.  All efforts for the most part, taken for granted.  Yes, women do know how to fake gratitude in order to keep the unsuspecting benefactor in the dark so they keep on doing what they are programmed to do. 

Point being, dont just stop at believing men that come to Sosua are the main source for DR chicks audacity on pricing.  Also blame it on the fact that DR women arent in the dark about what is going on elsewhere in the world like some guys may believe.   Some cats may believe these chicks arent paying attention to inflation.  How foreigners exchange rates are getting better.  That foreigners make a shit load of money from where they come from.   Their Dominican friends and family abroad can help school them on these realities.

Not to mention some Dominicans that live abroad get the same sob stories and fleecing from folks back home that foreigners get.  So if DR chicks are aware that a backpage existed where women could charge $125 to 200 to f--k dudes with a condom for 30 minutes to an hour,  why wouldnt they try to follow suit here in the DR.   Somebody is schooling DR chicks on how lucrative prostitution is elsewhere in the world.  Even tricks that vacation in the DR give information to the chicks that can be used to maximize what they can get out of the domestic trick game in the DR.   So please dont just stop at a few dudes spending habits as if that is the only cause for these chicks audacity on price expectations.

I'll throw in one more.  The fact that many foreigners do not, will not, and have no clue how to negotiate.  One of the biggest issues that many foreigners have is that they are vulnerable because of their conditioning and hangups when dealing with women they perceive as poor.   I talk to guys all of the time.  Much of the time,  the common denominator is enough guys are turned off to negotiating in this country, PERIOD.  And it's much harder for them when it comes to soliciting the services of these female sub contractors.

And one of the reasons that is, is because deep down enough guys want a real or natural connection with some of these women.  They really dont want it to feel transactional.  But because it is transactional, thats why some cats prefer to ask the chick how much.  Which is in some weird way,  showing the chick a form of respect.  Enough cats dont want to offend a chick, even if it means NOT being fair to oneself or pussy budget.  Thats why enough guys WONT tell a chick his price.   And there aint nothing anybody is going to do or say to change how some guys operate.  Guys are going to continue to ask chicks "how much baby".   

And these chicks here?  They eat that shit up.  They are highly skilled in detecting weakness and discomfort coming from men trying to hire them for services.  They already got the big head just because of that.  Add in the drool and admiration coming from guys, and these chicks end up selling pussy like a drug pusher sells crack.   No promotion is necessary.  Because enough men make the game and income stream for these women easy as pie.   They have no incentive to work for the money, or perform satisfactorily.     Enough men are damn near giving their money away.   They arent even trying to make these muggs earn a living.   

Now I realize it's easy for men to blame other men for the behavior of women.  Enough men cant help that.  Enough men are wired for accepting blame for womens behavior.  But I would suggest that for open minded guys,  to try to see women as individuals that may have a independent agenda in order to get what they want.  And that is not necessarily dependent on  men steering women to do what they do.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on March 21, 2021, 07:35:03 AM
Murano:  your analysis is always spot on. My guess is that once Ahnvee’s monopoly ends and mongers find other spots, prices return to normal or less. Most guys refuse to travel, limiting their options. I’m about 43 nautical miles from the DR. My radius includes San Juan and up to Santo Domingo with most in Higuey or La Romana. The numbers from the DR are way up and they are mostly 8s and higher. Chicas are desperate. Educated mongers understand that availability exceeds demand.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 21, 2021, 09:14:32 AM
Two new restaurants that are open some guys may or may not know about.   Both owned by "brothers".   

One is called THE NEW YORK BAR.  Located at the same spot where Sinatra's restaurant was ( across from the mini Playero market ).   Currently they do not have the name of their restaurant posted outside.   I suppose they will eventually.   The menu looks very nice with a lot of items.  They serve breakfast , lunch and dinner.   I guess you can say their focus is on American cuisine.   They have a pumpkin soup on the menu.   I already suggested that they have garlic bread on their menu.  That would go good with the soup.  Seems that suggestion came up a few times already.   

The other restaurant is called Que Lo Que Uptown.    That is located on the corner of Dr. Stern and Alejo Martinez.   Across Don Andres restaurant.   Also one block away from Margot restaurant going east, and Casa Marina Reef Resort and the ball field going one block west.    Not sure what their menu is like,  but in time I will visit both places and check it out.   

Another thing.  Im starting to see more black women vacationing in Sosua, and choosing to live here as well.   Ive asked how did they find out about Sosua.   In some instances it's male or female friends and relatives that encouraged them to come here for vacation.   In other instances, it's just plain curiosity.   And the fact that the DR is one of the most available and affordable places in which to go for vacation.   Perhaps enough women are feeling the absence and distraction of men back where they come from.   And have decided, if men can go to the DR/Sosua for vacation then why cant I?   

I cant wait to see if some guys are gonna comment on how big and out of shape some of these women are, and claim that these women need to wash their asses,  dress nice, get their "teef" fixed, and see their doctors about that obesity problem.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 22, 2021, 05:41:31 PM
the audacity of these chicas to seek more is growing. This would indicate that dudes continue to overpay. Smh. F
Cant fault them for trying all the time, but audacity is a mf’er. Smh. ????????
Chicks having the audacity to seek more and it's growing,  is and it isnt necessarily indicative that dudes continue to overpay.  The audacity of chicks seeking more ALSO comes from their own point of references.   For one, chicks have information and intel resources coming from all angles in regards to how they learn the prostitution market, and how it is in other places around the world.   

They learn that women from other countries get paid well.  Not just from straight up prostitution, but even from rackets like legal marriage , divorce, child support and shacking up.  Getting transplanted to a foreign country, and eventually cashing in by divorcing dude and getting paid upon departure.   Dominicans that live abroad school their own on how things work away from the DR. 

DR chicks that got wifed up to a foreigner share with folks back home on how lucrative it is fleecing men around the world.  How enough men are pre programmed to waste time, energy, effort and resources trying to make a woman/women happy or satisfied.  All efforts for the most part, taken for granted.  Yes, women do know how to fake gratitude in order to keep the unsuspecting benefactor in the dark so they keep on doing what they are programmed to do. 

Point being, dont just stop at believing men that come to Sosua are the main source for DR chicks audacity on pricing.  Also blame it on the fact that DR women arent in the dark about what is going on elsewhere in the world like some guys may believe.   Some cats may believe these chicks arent paying attention to inflation.  How foreigners exchange rates are getting better.  That foreigners make a shit load of money from where they come from.   Their Dominican friends and family abroad can help school them on these realities.

Not to mention some Dominicans that live abroad get the same sob stories and fleecing from folks back home that foreigners get.  So if DR chicks are aware that a backpage existed where women could charge $125 to 200 to f--k dudes with a condom for 30 minutes to an hour,  why wouldnt they try to follow suit here in the DR.   Somebody is schooling DR chicks on how lucrative prostitution is elsewhere in the world.  Even tricks that vacation in the DR give information to the chicks that can be used to maximize what they can get out of the domestic trick game in the DR.   So please dont just stop at a few dudes spending habits as if that is the only cause for these chicks audacity on price expectations.

I'll throw in one more.  The fact that many foreigners do not, will not, and have no clue how to negotiate.  One of the biggest issues that many foreigners have is that they are vulnerable because of their conditioning and hangups when dealing with women they perceive as poor.   I talk to guys all of the time.  Much of the time,  the common denominator is enough guys are turned off to negotiating in this country, PERIOD.  And it's much harder for them when it comes to soliciting the services of these female sub contractors.

And one of the reasons that is, is because deep down enough guys want a real or natural connection with some of these women.  They really dont want it to feel transactional.  But because it is transactional, thats why some cats prefer to ask the chick how much.  Which is in some weird way,  showing the chick a form of respect.  Enough cats dont want to offend a chick, even if it means NOT being fair to oneself or pussy budget.  Thats why enough guys WONT tell a chick his price.   And there aint nothing anybody is going to do or say to change how some guys operate.  Guys are going to continue to ask chicks "how much baby".   

And these chicks here?  They eat that shit up.  They are highly skilled in detecting weakness and discomfort coming from men trying to hire them for services.  They already got the big head just because of that.  Add in the drool and admiration coming from guys, and these chicks end up selling pussy like a drug pusher sells crack.   No promotion is necessary.  Because enough men make the game and income stream for these women easy as pie.   They have no incentive to work for the money, or perform satisfactorily.     Enough men are damn near giving their money away.   They arent even trying to make these muggs earn a living.   

Now I realize it's easy for men to blame other men for the behavior of women.  Enough men cant help that.  Enough men are wired for accepting blame for womens behavior.  But I would suggest that for open minded guys,  to try to see women as individuals that may have a independent agenda in order to get what they want.  And that is not necessarily dependent on  men steering women to do what they do.
Your not shitting about chicas knowing and keeping up with world events and trends,,Like chicas knowing that you got your $1400 stimulas check,, haha !,My haitian chica blind side me with your getting your check from Presidente Biden and when can you send me some,,, I cut her the f--k off and an other good repeat,, good ridd
ences !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 22, 2021, 08:12:27 PM

Your not shitting about chicas knowing and keeping up with world events and trends,,Like chicas knowing that you got your $1400 stimulas check,, haha !,My haitian chica blind side me with your getting your check from Presidente Biden and when can you send me some,,, I cut her the f--k off and an other good repeat,, good ridd
ences !

???????????????????? funny.      Ya know?  Three regulars of mine, were trying to schedule sessions with me since Friday.  Also a Haitian chick I got with one time back in December,  saw me at the beach this Friday.   I didnt even remember we hooked up.  Until I confirmed her number in my phone.  That is not like me to not remember a chick Ive been with.  Anyway, she tried to hit me up Saturday afternoon for a hookup.  So maybe they all are trying to hook up, as if I got a stimulus check?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 02, 2021, 08:16:23 AM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/02/list-of-407-spas-beaches-allowed-by-the-civil-defense-at-easter-throughout-the-country/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/02/list-of-407-spas-beaches-allowed-by-the-civil-defense-at-easter-throughout-the-country/)

List of 407 spas/beaches allowed by the Civil Defense at Easter throughout the country


FWIW the short list for beaches open for Semana Santa :  Sosua, Cabarete, Cofresi, Boca Chica,Costambar, Puerto Plata beaches,Juan Dolio


In this exceptional Easter 2021, the Civil Defense released a list of the 407 spas that can be used by the population throughout the country for Easter.

Here is the list by province:
Santo Domingo:

Cachón de la Rubia Spa

Bomba Nativa, Spa Palave

Palave Spa, In the Background

Welcome spa, on the bridge

El Higüero River Spa

Ozama river spa, on the Hacienda Estrella bridge

Las Mercedes Spa, Hacienda Estrella

Guanuma River Spa, Hacienda Estrella

Mata Mamón river spa

Sandbank, Boca Chica

Andrés Beach – Malecón

Andrés Beach- Marina Zalpar

Boca Chica Dulce Spa

Los Corosos Spa, km 25 Inside

El Limón Spa, La Cuaba

La Piedra Spa, La Cuaba
National District:

La Zurza natural spa
In Monte Plata:

Ozama river bridge spa, DM Don Juan

Comate Spa, Bayaguana

Balnearios Los Tubos, Cara Linda Las Sabitas

Plaza Cacique Bridge Spa, Boya River

Salto De Socoa Spa

Cruce del Verde Spa, Guanuma River

Km 35 Los Botado Beach, Guanuma River, Yamasá

Las Placeta Spa, Peralvillo

El Baden de La Cuaba Spa

El Baden de Guazuma Spa

Comate Bayaguana Spa

Las Playitas Spa

Rancho Melisa Spa
Santiago:

Spa on the Yaque del Norte River, Timbeque

Spa on the Yaque del Norte River, Hormiguero

Spa on the Yaque del Norte River, Las Charcas

Spa on the Yaque del Norte River, Arroyo Hondo

Los Siete Chorros Spa, Pedro García

El Tablon Spa, Pedro García

El Pozo I Spa, Janico

Bao Spa, Janico

Pozo Spa # 2 Bao Camp, Janico

La Ventana Spa, Amina River, Sajoma

Hot Water Spa, Los Montones, Sajoma

Pozo Bajito Spa, Mata Grande, Sajoma

Lazos de Los Cocos Spa, Sajoma

Las Ceibita spa, Amina river, Sajoma

Ranchito Bath, Amina River, Sajoma

Guanajuma Beach, Baitoa

Angostura Spa, El Caimito, Janico

Amina Spa / Inoa Sajoma

Confluencia Spa, Sajoma

Amina River Spa, New Aqueduct, Sajoma

Paso Bajito Spa, Sajoma

La Mina Spa, Amina River, Sajoma

Bao River Spa, Jamamu Pass, Sajoma

Yaque del Norte River Spa, El Anon, El Papayo, Janico

Yaque del Norte River Spa, Baiguaque, El Papayo, Janico

Bao River Spa, Machine House, El Pinalito, Janico

Jagua River Spa, Juncalito, Janico

Arroyo San Francisco Spa. Jacagua. The Saltadero
Espaillat:

El Chorro de Jamao Spa to the North

El Paraíso Beach from Jamao to the North

La Represa de Jamao Spa to the North

La Ermita de Gaspar Hernández Beach

Enrique Beach

Los Almendros Spa

El Paraíso Beach

The Long Water River

La Represa River

La Villa de Carlos River

Guarrito Gómez River

Brazos River

Paradise River

Arroyo De Gatos River

Duck Tail River

Charco De Los Indios River

El Trampolin River

La Rogelio Beach by Gaspar Hernández

La Esmeralda Beach by Gaspar Hernández
Puerto Plata:

La Ensenada Beach

Grande Beach, Luperon

Teco Beach, Maimon

Cofresí Beach

Costambar beach

Camacho Beach, Puerto Plata Malecon

Quarter Mile Beach, Malecon of Puerto Plata

Cosita Rica Beach, Malecon of Puerto Plata

Playa Long Beach, Malecón de Puerto Plata

Marapica Beach

Golden Beach

Bergantin Beach, Bergantín Monte Llano

Playa Cangrejo, Cangrejo Monte Llano

Sosúa Beach

Cabarete Beach

Sabaneta de Yasica Beach

Rio Unijica Spa

Gualetico River Spa

Gualete River Spa

El Charco de la India Spa

El Baden Spa

Los Félix Spa

La Confluencia de Río Bajabonico Spa in Imbert

Las Charcas de Damajagua Spa

La Confluencia de Río Grande Spa in Altamira

La Poza de Diógenes Spa

La Bajaita Spa

Rio Muños Beach

El Punto Spa

Rio Yásica Spa

Rio Bella Vista Spa

Poza Del Castillo / Malecon Puerto Plata

Acapulco / Malecon Puerto Plata
San Pedro de Macoris:

Embasi Beach, Los Guayacanes

La Bati Cueva Beach, Los Guayacanes

Guayacanes Public Beach

Vicinis Beach, Guayacanes

Juan Dolio Beach

Villa Del Mar Beach

Playita Juan Dolio

Decameron Beach

Cumayaza Beach

Playa De Muerto, Malecón de San Pedro

Chela Río Soco Ramón Santana Spa

Spa of Paso del Medio Río Soco Ramón Santana

La Base Rio Soco Ramón Santana Beach

Spa La Fuente Ing. Angelina

Cumayaza River Spa

Los Chicharrones River Spa

Río Cazui Spa, Quisqueya Municipality

Genjibral Spa, Quisqueya Municipality

Dos Bocas Beach, Cazui River El Puerto

Paso del Pilar Spa, El Puerto

La Bomba Beach, Cazui River El Puerto

Yabacoa Spa, El Puerto River

Paso Hondo Spa, Magua Mun River. Comfort

Paso Caimito Beach, Cazui River El Puerto

Paso La Ponderosa Spa, Cazui River El Puerto
Hato Mayor:

El Paso River Higuamo Spa

La Represa Río Higuamo Spa

Paso El Mamón Spa Higuamo River

La Laya Spa, Mata Palacio

Avocado Spa, Mata Palacio

Yerbabuena River Higuamo Spa
La Romana:

Caleta Beach

Bayahibe Beach

Beach Hotel Dominicus

La Playita river Chavón in Guaymate
El Seibo:

Soco River Good Night Spa, in Batey Santa Lucía

Soco river spa in Los Dieguillos de La Cuchilla

Bridge spa over the Seibo river, departure to Caciquillo

Badén river Soco spa in Arroyo Tabaco de Las Cuchillas

Playa Arriba in the urban area of ​​Miches

Costa Esmeralda beach, in the area La Mina de Oro Miches

Spa km 7 Seibo-Pedro Sánchez highway Seibo River

Charco Pijin, Seibo River, Colina Don Guillermo Sector

Limón Beach, DM-El Cedro
La Altagracia:

Macao Beach

Cabeza De Toro Beach

Cortesito Beach

La Punta del Coco Beach

Uvero Alto Beach

Lava Cama Beach (Nisibón)

Yuma beach

Punta de Silverina Spa

La Boca de Maimón Spa

Yuma Embarcadero Spa

Yonu River Spa
Azua:

Yaque Del Sur River Spa, Villalpando

Las Cuevas River Spa Padre Las Casas

Las Cuevas Guayabal river spa

Jura river spa, Peralta

Los Negros Beach

Monte Rio Beach

Caracoles Beach

Tortuguero Beach

Caobita Beach

Isura Channel, Sabana Yegua municipality

Jura river spa, Carrizal

Palmar de Ocoa Beach

Caobita Beach
San Juan:

Mijo River, in San Juan

The Juan De Herrera Channel

La Playita de Sabaneta

Dormidero River of Sabaneta

The Pedro Corto Canal

Head of the Bao river in Vallejuelo

La Lajita in Vallejuelo

The Dip in El Cercado

Rio Yaque del Sur, The Banks

Loma de Yaque, Entrance Of The Carrt Dam. Guanito – Yaque

Palmar de Yaque

The Sleeve, The Ditches

Caña Fistol, Juan de Herrera

La Zurza, Las Matas de Farfán

Loma en Medio, El Cercado

The Fencing

El Yacuzi La Rancha de El Cercado
Elías Piña:

Head of the river at Rancho de La Guardia

The Guineos

The Sewer

The Taking of the Metisaque in Junquito

The Pass of La Colaza

El Paso de Mariquita

Nonon Pass

The Fall of Paco

The Media Luna Channel

The Charco de Los Dies
Valverde:

Spa on the Bottom Side of the Hato Nuevo Bridge

Brisas del Río Mao Spa

Los Palitos Beach

The Motors of Inapa

Canal Boca de Mao Bridge

Mao River. Counter dam
Monte Cristi:

Juan de Bolaño Beach in San Fernando

Costa Verde Beach in San Fernando

Mi Golpa Beach in San Fernando

El Morro Beach in San Fernando

Coco Beach in Manzanillo

Good Man Beach in Villa Vásquez

Spa in the Maguaca dam

Estero Balsa Beach

Yaque del Norte River Beach, Castañuela
Santiago Rodríguez:

Río Guayubín-Arroyo Blanco Spa in San Ignacio de Sabaneta

Rio Guayubín-Estancia Vieja Spa in San Ignacio de Sabaneta

Río Guayubín-El Rincón Spa in San Ignacio de Sabaneta

Meseta Monción Spa

Los Cacaos Spa in Monción

Rio Inaje Spa in Villa Los Almacigos

El Baden Beach Manuel Bueno Way In Villa Los Almacigos
Dajabón:

Salto de Chacuey Spa

El Salto Spa

Arroyo Caño Spa in El Aguacate

Rio Neita Beach

Municipal Spa

Arroyo Caño Spa

Inaje River Spa
Samana:

The fountain

Los Corrales Beach

Los Corozos Beach

Las Cañitas Beach

Punta Arena Beach

Posa de Don César Spa

La Marina Beach

Los Puentes Beach

Anadel Beach

Caleton Beach

Gulf of La Flecha Beach

Las Terrenas Beach 1

Las Terrenas Beach 2

Las Terrenas Beach 3

Las Terrenas Beach 4

Las Terrenas Beach 5

The Garitas 1

The Garitas 2

The Corals 1

Rincon de Las Galeras beach

La Playita Beach

Salto del Limón Spa
Maria Trinidad Sánchez:

Los Gringos Beach

Bojolo Beach 1

Bojolo Beach 2

La Playita de Nagua

The Factor Pool

El Saltadero Spa

Los Aminios Beach

San Juan River Bridge

Los Muertos Beach

El Tablon Beach

Los Jengibres Spas

Los Memisos Spas

El Papayo Spa

El Baden Spa

Arroyo Almadio Bridge

La Represa Spa

El Dragon Spa

El Bretón Beach (Old French Cape)

Arroyo Salado Beach 1

Arroyo Salado Beach 2

El Diamante Beach

Caleton Beach

Big beach

El Grigri Lagoon
Hermanas Mirabal:

Ojo De Agua Spa

Montellano Spa

Balneario de Blanco Arriba

Party river spa
Duarte:

Pool Club El Mayorista

The Caimito

Hot Waters Pool The German

The Barraquito Cave

Jaya’s pool spa

Paraguay Beach

Guaraguao La Amazona Pool Spa
Monsignor Nouel:

Masipedro Channel Spa (El Camellón), in Bonao

Los Saltos de Jima Spa

Fula 1 Isamar river spa, in Sabana del Puerto

Rio Fula 2 El Manantial Spa, in Sabana del Puerto

River Fula 3 El Peñón spa, in Sabana del Puerto

La Confluencia de Blanco Spa, in Bonao

Cachamba Los Quemados Spa, in Bonao

Yuna bridge spa

El Baden de Zumbador Spa, in Piedra Blanca

El Charco de Los Pájaros Spa, in Piedra Blanca

Balbeario El Charco de Víctor, in Piedra Blanca

Charco La Paola Spa, in Piedra Blanca

Los Negritos 1 and 2 Spa, in Maimón

Yuna Bridge Spa, in Maimón

Maimón Bridge Spa (Batey), in Maimón

La Piscina Club de la Cooperativa Spa, in Maimón

La playita de Koki spa, in Maimón

Los Japoneses Spa, in Villa Sonador

El Charco de Arena Spa in, Villa Sonador
La Vega:

La Represa-Bayacanes Spa

Spa of the eío The Baden-Bayacanes

Charco Negro-Acapulco Spa

La Represa-Acapulco Spa

Ricón dam counter reservoir spa

Spa at the head of the Jima river bridge

La Confluencia Avenue Spa in Jarabacoa

Las Guázaras spa in Jarabacoa

El charco de María spa in Manabao

Salto de Aguas Blancas spa in Constanza

Los Patitos Spa in Constanza

Jima river spa

La Cabra-Taveras Dam Spa
Sánchez Ramírez:

Yuna river spa in Platanal

La Estancia Spa in Cevicos

Blanquita River Spa

Yuna river spa, La Vija municipality

La Tabaquera Spa
San Cristobal:

The beach of Nigua

Cocolandia Beach

Fisherman’s Beach

Nigua Beach

The Hole-The Dam

Dam Up

La Peñita

Nizao river Lucas Díaz bridge

Palenque Beach

Muhammad River in La Grancera

Santana Spa

Los Cocos Spa

Najayo Beach

La Toma Spa

River La Pared El Carril

Los Cuadritos Beach

Los Mogotes km. 59

Savannah Stone

Gringo Beach

Haina River, La Pared, under the bridge

Many Waters El Arroyo – La Central

Nigua River, El Tablazo community

Contra-reservoir Las Barias

The Punta de la Peña

Valdesia dam tunnel

La Cabria Tunnel
San José de Ocoa:

La Isleta del Pinal river bathing area

La Cumbre de Nizao Spa

Las Avispas Spa

Monte Negro Resort from Rancho Arriba

El Puente de la Piscina river spa

The spa La Estrechura

El Puente de La Horma Spa

Los Martínez Spa

La Ciénega Spa

Las Ayumas Spa
Peravia:

Nizao River over the De Don Gregorio Bridge

Cachón de Paya

Beautiful beach

Salinas Beach

Las Barias Canal

Los Corbanitos Beach in Sabana Buey

Nizao river over the Lucas Díaz bridge
Barahona:

San Rafael river spa

Los Patos River Spa

River De La Ciénaga Spa

Bahoruco river spa

Mata de Maíz river spa

El Guayullo dam spa

La Furnia dam spa

La Fuente dam spa

Casita Blanca Beach

Punta Inglesa Beach

Saladilla Beach

El Quemaito Beach

Ciénaga Beach

Enriquillo Beach

Andean Beach
Pedernales:

Pedernales Beach

Cabo Rojo Beach

La Cueva Beach

Bahia de las Aguilas Beach

Arroyo Salado Spa

Los Pozos Curva de Patana Spa

Del Mulito river spa
Independencia:

Las Barias de La Discovery Spa

Boca de Chacón Spa

La Zurza de Duverge Spa

El Dique Spa
Bohoruco:

El Hoyo Spa Yaque del Sur river

La Compuerta de Uvilla Spa

Curva de Las Marías Spa

Cachón Mamey Spa

Hoyo Felipe Spa

Los Guineos Spa
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 02, 2021, 01:12:58 PM
Well at least you can get a Happy ending !Final feliz !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dothedamthing on April 02, 2021, 09:48:23 PM

Your not shitting about chicas knowing and keeping up with world events and trends,,Like chicas knowing that you got your $1400 stimulas check,, haha !,My haitian chica blind side me with your getting your check from Presidente Biden and when can you send me some,,, I cut her the f--k off and an other good repeat,, good ridd
ences !

???????????????????? funny.      Ya know?  Three regulars of mine, were trying to schedule sessions with me since Friday.  Also a Haitian chick I got with one time back in December,  saw me at the beach this Friday.   I didnt even remember we hooked up.  Until I confirmed her number in my phone.  That is not like me to not remember a chick Ive been with.  Anyway, she tried to hit me up Saturday afternoon for a hookup.  So maybe they all are trying to hook up, as if I got a stimulus check?   

My WhatsApp blows up everytime stimulus checks are rolled out. There are chicas I saw years ago and they still have my number.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 03, 2021, 02:27:01 PM

Your not shitting about chicas knowing and keeping up with world events and trends,,Like chicas knowing that you got your $1400 stimulas check,, haha !,My haitian chica blind side me with your getting your check from Presidente Biden and when can you send me some,,, I cut her the f--k off and an other good repeat,, good ridd
ences !

???????????????????? funny.      Ya know?  Three regulars of mine, were trying to schedule sessions with me since Friday.  Also a Haitian chick I got with one time back in December,  saw me at the beach this Friday.   I didnt even remember we hooked up.  Until I confirmed her number in my phone.  That is not like me to not remember a chick Ive been with.  Anyway, she tried to hit me up Saturday afternoon for a hookup.  So maybe they all are trying to hook up, as if I got a stimulus check?   

My WhatsApp blows up everytime stimulus checks are rolled out. There are chicas I saw years ago and they still have my number.
It amazes me how foreigners getting a stimulus check is a big deal to some DR folks.   It is almost as if they may think we are broke and dont have any other money?   Or is it enough guys have convinced these chicks that they are flat broke, so they'll stop begging?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 03, 2021, 02:40:30 PM
Lots of Dominicans staying in Sosua , in the tourist hotels for the Semana Santa weekend.   Yesterday Good friday, the roads had mostly light traffic.   Today Saturday?  Traffic was heavy.  Law enforcement , Fire Depts. and medical personnel out and about, along Highway 5 .  Sosua Beach full of Dominicans primarily.   

What I found interesting, a lot of different businesses were open today.   Some businesses one wouldnt think would be open today, were open.   Mucho traffic today.   Police directing heavy traffic all day.

Hard to gauge the amount of chicas and tourists/mongers.   There definitely is a skeleton crew of chicas on duty.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 03, 2021, 02:56:10 PM
Lots of Dominicans staying in Sosua , in the tourist hotels for the Semana Santa weekend.   Yesterday Good friday, the roads had mostly light traffic.   Today Saturday?  Traffic was heavy.  Law enforcement , Fire Depts. and medical personnel out and about, along Highway 5 .  Sosua Beach full of Dominicans primarily.   

What I found interesting, a lot of different businesses were open today.   Some businesses one wouldnt think would be open today, were open.   Mucho traffic today.   Police directing heavy traffic all day.

Hard to gauge the amount of chicas and tourists/mongers.   There definitely is a skeleton crew of chicas on duty.

On the few occasions I’d come during holy week I’d fly in the Saturday after Good Friday, take in the sites until Monday, then feast the following week when the broke chicas came back into town to replenish their finances. Typically pricing would take a dip during that week.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 04, 2021, 10:51:43 AM
Samsung Pay Works on the Hand Held payment terminal ( that accepts CC/DC ) at Texaco Gas station in Sosua.

Full story/experience below :

http://takemebacktososua.com/sosua-street-advice/what-have-you-learned-or-things-chicas-did-to-make-you-laugh/msg254288/#msg254288  (http://takemebacktososua.com/sosua-street-advice/what-have-you-learned-or-things-chicas-did-to-make-you-laugh/msg254288/#msg254288)

Hold onto them Pesos!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 09, 2021, 07:08:38 PM
Here’s a video shot in front of Kings that captures a few tasty morsels. That’s daytime action. Wouldn’t be surprised if night time quality has increased quite a bit.

https://youtu.be/wVNvwXcwDYs
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 09, 2021, 07:57:54 PM
Here’s a video shot in front of Kings that captures a few tasty morsels. That’s daytime action. Wouldn’t be surprised if night time quality has increased quite a bit.

https://youtu.be/wVNvwXcwDYs
Was at the beach today.   It was sunny and spring like warm.   2 days prior,  very cloudy and occasional rain.   Days before that, and Easter Sunday was a wash out.   Rained all day and in the night.   

But today, and least at the beach.  A lot of chicks have returned to Sosua.   Including a handful of chicks that could be considered solid 7's and 8's as far as looks goes.   Also on scene were lots of guys that made it down.   Sosua is showing more that it is a highly sought after destination to vacation.     And also live.    I've been getting more and more inquiries from guys who are contemplating on finding a place in Sosua ( or the DR generally ) to live.   

Some cats dont know where to begin.   Some are going to end up disappointed even if they find a place, because they are going about it blindly and winging it.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 09, 2021, 08:10:37 PM
The Clinic in Plaza Colonial.   Some may be aware that Plaza Colonial ( formerly where the Orange store was )  in the next block ( to the left of Banco Popular  ) has a medical clinic there.   For Covid testing, STD testing , lab , blood work etc    In recent days/weeks,  the clinic was moved within the plaza.   

It's now next door to the right of the massage business in the back area of the plaza almost behind the stairs,  but still at ground level.   Earlier when they 1st started offering Antigen tests, the price was supposedly 3000 pesos.   But I have learned that they are now only charging 2000 pesos.   I imagine in order to be competitive with the prices of the clinic across from the Playero Supermercado on the main road.   This may be another option,  in case one or the other claims to have run out of tests.

I also believe the clinic in Plaza Colonial has been offering results in a reasonable same day time frame ,  same as the other clinic.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on April 10, 2021, 12:00:44 PM
Here’s a video shot in front of Kings that captures a few tasty morsels. That’s daytime action. Wouldn’t be surprised if night time quality has increased quite a bit.

https://youtu.be/wVNvwXcwDYs

I definitely see a couple I wouldn't mind getting my paws on....ONE in particular lol. Also, nice camera work....has the camera right in chicas n unsuspecting gringos faces bright, crystal clear, close upfront and CENTER! Lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 10, 2021, 12:26:43 PM
Good video, You got some old pros, a few fresh faces, the town begger,  plenty of plump chicas,,  At the 2 15 mark  chica with a grande culo  Fat ass ! A big booty you would loose daylight if you bury your face in,,,haha Sirs choose wisely vibe and vett Have fun !!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: LatinoLoco on April 12, 2021, 01:12:35 PM
Until what time is Ahvnee and Copacabanna open actually.... open end ?
Thanks and happy hunting :)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on April 12, 2021, 05:22:26 PM
Here’s a video shot in front of Kings that captures a few tasty morsels. That’s daytime action. Wouldn’t be surprised if night time quality has increased quite a bit.

https://youtu.be/wVNvwXcwDYs

Thanks Jazzy for posting this link. That’s much better action than I saw on my last 30 day visit in October. This indicates to me that Sosua is back in a big way. I’m there again next month. It was good in October, probably even better in late May. They need the money.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on April 13, 2021, 08:24:06 AM
Here’s a video shot in front of Kings that captures a few tasty morsels. That’s daytime action. Wouldn’t be surprised if night time quality has increased quite a bit.

https://youtu.be/wVNvwXcwDYs

Thanks Jazzy for posting this link. That’s much better action than I saw on my last 30 day visit in October. This indicates to me that Sosua is back in a big way. I’m there again next month. It was good in October, probably even better in late May. They need the money.

The best chicks come out at night. If you are not a night person you will miss the BEST.....GUARANTEED. Now after 6 alot of evening chicks come out also, if you go by Kings or inside which is where this video was shot you will.......you will see plenty of winners!

Early daytime action in Sosua is very hit and miss. After 6......the party starts DAILY!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 16, 2021, 09:55:21 PM
There are new curfew hours. 10 pm Monday thru Friday and 9 pm Sat-Sun. Transit freedom until 12 am on all days. These times are scheduled to be in effect until 5/16/2021.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on April 17, 2021, 08:34:34 AM
There are new curfew hours. 10 pm Monday thru Friday and 9 pm Sat-Sun. Transit freedom until 12 am on all days. These times are scheduled to be in effect until 5/16/2021.

Where did you read this?? I heard the curfew hours remains the same.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: SixGod on April 17, 2021, 02:11:05 PM
Not enough tasty morsels in this video. I two and a possible 3rd I would let ride.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 17, 2021, 02:31:31 PM
There are new curfew hours. 10 pm Monday thru Friday and 9 pm Sat-Sun. Transit freedom until 12 am on all days. These times are scheduled to be in effect until 5/16/2021.

Where did you read this?? I heard the curfew hours remains the same.

First they announced there was no change then two days later they changed it.

Still this weekend the curfew begins at 7:00 p.m.
From Monday, it will be from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

Still this weekend the curfew begins at 7:00 p.m.

Santo Domingo, RD

The new curfew schedule will take effect from next Monday, so this weekend is maintained from 7:00 p.m., with three hours of free transit until 10:00 p.m.

By decree 253-21, issued on Friday afternoon, President Luis Abinader relaxed the curfew schedule just two days after he ratified the previous schedule, so from Monday, the curfew in the national territory will be from Monday to Friday from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

"Likewise, it also explains that a free movement grace will be available until 12:00 a.m. every day, with the sole purpose of allowing people to go to their respective residences," the decree states.

https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/04/17/666287/todavia-este-fin-de-semana-el-toque-de-queda-comienza-a-las-700-de-noche
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 17, 2021, 03:00:08 PM
Thanks for feedback fellas on the new curfew.   I'll post here an additional source. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 17, 2021, 03:00:46 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/17/curfew-time-eased-again-it-will-be-from-1000-pm-from-monday-to-friday/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/17/curfew-time-eased-again-it-will-be-from-1000-pm-from-monday-to-friday/)

Curfew hours eased again;  Monday to Friday Curfew will be from 10:00 PM until 5 AM,  Saturday and Sunday Curfew is from 9 PM until 5 AM.

Santo Domingo, DR.

President Luis Abinader relaxed the curfew schedule through decree 253-21 issued yesterday afternoon.

The new decree establishes that the curfew in the national territory will be from Monday to Friday from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

“In the same way, it also explains that there will be a grace of free movement until midnight every day, with the sole purpose that people can go to their respective residences,” says the decree.

Previously, the curfew hours ranged from 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. on weekdays, with a grace of free transit until midnight and on weekends from 7 p.m. to 5 a.m. with free movement until ten at night.

After restricting the hours for the Christmas and New Year festivities from January to date, the authorities have been gradually making the government provision more flexible due to a drop in the rate of people infected by the pandemic and the application of Covid-19 vaccines against it in more than a million Dominicans.

The decree issued yesterday will take effect on Monday, April 19. The sole purpose of the document is to provide for the variation of the current curfew schedule, established in Decree 133-21 dated March 1, 2021, and extended by Decree 231-21 dated April 14, 2021.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on April 18, 2021, 11:41:15 AM
There are new curfew hours. 10 pm Monday thru Friday and 9 pm Sat-Sun. Transit freedom until 12 am on all days. These times are scheduled to be in effect until 5/16/2021.

Where did you read this?? I heard the curfew hours remains the same.

First they announced there was no change then two days later they changed it.

Still this weekend the curfew begins at 7:00 p.m.
From Monday, it will be from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

Still this weekend the curfew begins at 7:00 p.m.

Santo Domingo, RD

The new curfew schedule will take effect from next Monday, so this weekend is maintained from 7:00 p.m., with three hours of free transit until 10:00 p.m.

By decree 253-21, issued on Friday afternoon, President Luis Abinader relaxed the curfew schedule just two days after he ratified the previous schedule, so from Monday, the curfew in the national territory will be from Monday to Friday from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

"Likewise, it also explains that a free movement grace will be available until 12:00 a.m. every day, with the sole purpose of allowing people to go to their respective residences," the decree states.

https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/04/17/666287/todavia-este-fin-de-semana-el-toque-de-queda-comienza-a-las-700-de-noche

Oh, ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 18, 2021, 08:31:07 PM
THE SOSUA BEACH!    DOMINICAN FAMILY DAY IN FULL EFFECT.   BEACH WAS PACKED.   

For one,  while passing by the beach at 830am,  we saw plenty of Dominicans had already made it to the beach to start their day.   Then as I was heading to Santiago via Route 5 moving through Puerto Plata,  tons of buses were going in our opposite direction towards Puerto Plata presumably to Sosua, Maimon, Cofresi etc.    By the time I got to Maimon ( on the way home ) there was a traffic jam in the area where folks go to the local beaches.   And almost every restaurant in that Maimon district was full with people.      Then when I got back to Sosua around 2PM,  masses of buses and cars were parked on the highway.   

There has not been a Dominican Family Day turnout like this in over a year.   To me that is/was a clear sign that people here are f--king through with being restricted because of this pandemic.   They want to live and enjoy life.   Perhaps people came out to make up for the lousy Semana Santa weekend they had?   That weekend, it was rained out, and beach time was cut short by the police.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 21, 2021, 10:07:33 PM
I just observed...

Something has happened in CMP. Is that a hotel now? A villa like where Passions was?

For the fellas with a more twisted bucket list than me, saw a midget at the park near Bailees. Knock yourselves out.

Merengue is open but is a little weird, kinda enforcing masks to enter? i don't know, no one in there.

I am still working my way through the rolodex, but for sure have to do a reshuffle and drop a few off the repeat list and adding a few new ones which i suppose will mean venturing into Ahnvee because the little spots are empty and the streets are mean. 

And what happened to David's Plaza sports bar? Must be waiting for something to open, i thought it was ready to go SB weekend.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on April 21, 2021, 11:08:01 PM
I just observed...

Something has happened in CMP. Is that a hotel now? A villa like where Passions was?

For the fellas with a more twisted bucket list than me, saw a midget at the park near Bailees. Knock yourselves out.

Merengue is open but is a little weird, kinda enforcing masks to enter? i don't know, no one in there.

I am still working my way through the rolodex, but for sure have to do a reshuffle and drop a few off the repeat list and adding a few new ones which i suppose will mean venturing into Ahnvee because the little spots are empty and the streets are mean. 

And what happ
ened to David's Plaza sports bar? Must be waiting for something to open, i thought it was ready to go SB weekend.


What about After One....hows it lookin?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 21, 2021, 11:33:38 PM
I just observed...

Something has happened in CMP. Is that a hotel now? A villa like where Passions was?

For the fellas with a more twisted bucket list than me, saw a midget at the park near Bailees. Knock yourselves out.

Merengue is open but is a little weird, kinda enforcing masks to enter? i don't know, no one in there.

I am still working my way through the rolodex, but for sure have to do a reshuffle and drop a few off the repeat list and adding a few new ones which i suppose will mean venturing into Ahnvee because the little spots are empty and the streets are mean. 

And what happ
ened to David's Plaza sports bar? Must be waiting for something to open, i thought it was ready to go SB weekend.


What about After One....hows it lookin?

One of the YouTube vloggers posted that the club portion was shut down after the fight a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on April 22, 2021, 08:05:29 AM
I just observed...

Something has happened in CMP. Is that a hotel now? A villa like where Passions was?

For the fellas with a more twisted bucket list than me, saw a midget at the park near Bailees. Knock yourselves out.

Merengue is open but is a little weird, kinda enforcing masks to enter? i don't know, no one in there.

I am still working my way through the rolodex, but for sure have to do a reshuffle and drop a few off the repeat list and adding a few new ones which i suppose will mean venturing into Ahnvee because the little spots are empty and the streets are mean. 

And what happ
ened to David's Plaza sports bar? Must be waiting for something to open, i thought it was ready to go SB weekend.


What about After One....hows it lookin?

One of the YouTube vloggers posted that the club portion was shut down after the fight a couple of weeks ago.
That's figures...smh
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 24, 2021, 12:15:36 PM
Based on these two recent videos quality seems to have deteriorated a bit.

https://youtu.be/zjYY9jV2swo

https://youtu.be/6-QUjHaQrtw

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Evac305 on April 24, 2021, 01:19:51 PM
Based on these two recent videos quality seems to have deteriorated a bit.

https://youtu.be/zjYY9jV2swo

https://youtu.be/6-QUjHaQrtw

I’m here right now. Best daytime talent is at Bailees not the beach. Especially during breakfast and mid day lunch. At night ahnvee had some decent Chicas. I haven’t been to the casino yet but I’ll see what the vibes are looking like tonight.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 24, 2021, 05:36:26 PM
In those videos I could see allot of new slimmies that I like. One with a riding crop, Yippy Ki Ah. I like cowgirls, LOL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 25, 2021, 07:50:44 AM
Since when do we use 2 videos , one a little over 8 minutes and the other less than 4 minutes, to supposedly depict or represent quality and or deterioration?   Quality of what?   Deterioration of what?    If we are talking about the people in the video?   From the little bit of video footage,  most of those folks look almost identical to ordinary folks you would find walking around in 100's of Walmarts , Targets, and Sam's Clubs throughout the US.   That applies to adults, and any children seen in those videos.   

Put those same people near a beach of choice,  and they would look just like the average American.    I'm thinking,  since the pandemic,  quality has deteriorated in many places in the world.   Whats so unique about Sosua's quality depicted in 12 minutes of video footage?   

Since were on the subject,  what exactly would be considered the type of quality we should see?   And what exactly has deteriorated that is shown in the videos? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 25, 2021, 08:21:25 AM
On the positive tip.   And I apologize for not having any pics or video.   But in spite of the so called quality seemingly having deteriorated for some, there are some nice visual improvements being made in town.   From Los Charamicos towards Sosua on the main road,  construction crews have been making sidewalks, planting trees, erecting a nice wall with lights and murals on both sides of the road.   I believe all walkways leading to the beach will be redone.   Currently the crews are working on the access/pathway to the beach from the highway.   

Diagonally across from the Metro Station ( on the main road ) another General Merchandise store is open.  Much bigger than the other 3 we have already.   Lots of apartment buildings and houses are being built around town.   

The 2413 Sports Complex in the RLD voluntarily closed down for renovation ( and IMO, due to lack of business ).    Perhaps when curfew restrictions are lifted, and other parts of the complex are completed,  they may be better prepared to take on customers.   They have the same problem as Kings/Rumba.   They have to close at curfew time.    Patrons have to find other places to go.

So far it seems folks have several after curfew options.   Ahnvee of course.  The Casino by the Bay, The Tree House 2 ( Papa's ) in Las Palmeras.   If there are other after curfew venues?  Please share.   


Just like any place else that closes down for renovations.   Please excuse our appearance ladies and gentlemen.   Our weaves,our excessive weight gain, our tats, our surgeries, our piss poor attitudes, the f--ked up hustlers and/or expats, the piss poor quality of service , our outlandish pricing and whacky , assbackward negotiation techniques.

We are currently under going a major reconstruction which may take several months ,years or generations.   So please pardon our appearance if any of this offends you,  or ruins your ability to enjoy what you used to enjoy 3 to 20 yrs ago.   We appreciate your business and your patience in this matter...............signed the Coalition for Pandemic affected Prostitutes,Hustlers,Opportunists,Raggedy Expats,8 min and 4 min Ytubers etc for Greater Tourism in Puerto Plata Province.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Pussyrus1422 on April 25, 2021, 10:30:37 AM
The Casino By The Bay Disco (After One) is not an after curfew option anymore........Copied from Detras del Rumor 25/04/2021

Sosùa.- Several prosecutors accompanied by members of the National Police among other authorities, proceeded last night last Saturday to raid a disco located in Pedro Clisante Street in the El Batey sector, which operated in violation of the Presidential Decree on touch It's the same.
The invasion was conducted at the Coral Reef Casino, located on Pedro Clisante Street past 12;00 PM, resulting in 33 people arrested, including 3 women and 9 men employed in the business, a shotgun was also occupied Maverick mark No. MV80840H and a PT809 brand gun, cal. 9 mm., No. TGZ64, used for establishment security, which at the time of trespassing could not submit legal documents on these.
The operation was headed by Magistrates MICHAEL N ÚEZ, MACIEL DIAZ CID, CHRISTIAN EASTERINO, Coba Director, Provincial of Puerto Plata, FRANCISCO GONZALEZ BONILLA, North P.N. Coronel LIC. KELVIN PACHECO PEREZ, P.N. and Fast Action Unit National Police, Puerto Plata.
About the owner of the fun place whose closure is ordered for the second time in less than a month, no details have been given but it is claimed that whoever operates the place as a tenant allegedly is Mr. Jesus Rafael Cabrera, former pre-candidate for Puerto Plata mayor and member of the Central Committee of the PLD.

comments below, not what many of the staff and all the tourist were expecting....

These people locked everyone inside, including tourists, and started throwing gas. No one could breathe. People were throwing up. It was scary and very confusing. Maybe because it's in a tourist zone, tourists thought it was okay. Regardless, how they handled their operation wasn't right. People running, coughing, vomiting, water running down their face. An employee suffered a seizure and had to be taken to CMC.

Please note today at 11:20 am DR time, the posting of this story was removed from the internet, I guess the New National Police Director to POP has more power than the media.

I hope everyone is OK after this raid, also anyone on the ground can verify the above report from Detras del Rumor's FB page?



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 25, 2021, 11:51:55 AM
The Casino By The Bay Disco (After One) is not an after curfew option anymore........Copied from Detras del Rumor 25/04/2021

Sosùa.- Several prosecutors accompanied by members of the National Police among other authorities, proceeded last night last Saturday to raid a disco located in Pedro Clisante Street in the El Batey sector, which operated in violation of the Presidential Decree on touch It's the same.
The invasion was conducted at the Coral Reef Casino, located on Pedro Clisante Street past 12;00 PM, resulting in 33 people arrested, including 3 women and 9 men employed in the business, a shotgun was also occupied Maverick mark No. MV80840H and a PT809 brand gun, cal. 9 mm., No. TGZ64, used for establishment security, which at the time of trespassing could not submit legal documents on these.
The operation was headed by Magistrates MICHAEL N ÚEZ, MACIEL DIAZ CID, CHRISTIAN EASTERINO, Coba Director, Provincial of Puerto Plata, FRANCISCO GONZALEZ BONILLA, North P.N. Coronel LIC. KELVIN PACHECO PEREZ, P.N. and Fast Action Unit National Police, Puerto Plata.
About the owner of the fun place whose closure is ordered for the second time in less than a month, no details have been given but it is claimed that whoever operates the place as a tenant allegedly is Mr. Jesus Rafael Cabrera, former pre-candidate for Puerto Plata mayor and member of the Central Committee of the PLD.

comments below, not what many of the staff and all the tourist were expecting....

These people locked everyone inside, including tourists, and started throwing gas. No one could breathe. People were throwing up. It was scary and very confusing. Maybe because it's in a tourist zone, tourists thought it was okay. Regardless, how they handled their operation wasn't right. People running, coughing, vomiting, water running down their face. An employee suffered a seizure and had to be taken to CMC.

Please note today at 11:20 am DR time, the posting of this story was removed from the internet, I guess the New National Police Director to POP has more power than the media.

I hope everyone is OK after this raid, also anyone on the ground can verify the above report from Detras del Rumor's FB page?

Shit balls!

Well, i guess that is just saying, dont stay out in places that are supposed to be closed.

Kings seemed to be a little slow in emptying the place last night, music was on and i could hear plenty people in there well after 9:00. But you cant see in! Bailees draws the curtains also. Driving home last night around 9:30, the strip itself seemed shut down, but plenty of folks around the food truck, and some other spots heading east.

Kings is huge now, they spent some money on the glass and covered the parking lot. i guess they did not get the memo about having to close and move to the other end of the road.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 25, 2021, 11:59:37 AM
On the positive tip.   And I apologize for not having any pics or video.   But in spite of the so called quality seemingly having deteriorated for some, there are some nice visual improvements being made in town.   From Los Charamicos towards Sosua on the main road,  construction crews have been making sidewalks, planting trees, erecting a nice wall with lights and murals on both sides of the road.   I believe all walkways leading to the beach will be redone.   Currently the crews are working on the access/pathway to the beach from the highway.   

Diagonally across from the Metro Station ( on the main road ) another General Merchandise store is open.  Much bigger than the other 3 we have already.   Lots of apartment buildings and houses are being built around town.   

The 2413 Sports Complex in the RLD voluntarily closed down for renovation ( and IMO, due to lack of business ).    Perhaps when curfew restrictions are lifted, and other parts of the complex are completed,  they may be better prepared to take on customers.   They have the same problem as Kings/Rumba.   They have to close at curfew time.    Patrons have to find other places to go.

So far it seems folks have several after curfew options.   Ahnvee of course.  The Casino by the Bay, The Tree House 2 ( Papa's ) in Las Palmeras.   If there are other after curfew venues?  Please share.   


Just like any place else that closes down for renovations.   Please excuse our appearance ladies and gentlemen.   Our weaves,our excessive weight gain, our tats, our surgeries, our piss poor attitudes, the f--ked up hustlers and/or expats, the piss poor quality of service , our outlandish pricing and whacky , assbackward negotiation techniques.

We are currently under going a major reconstruction which may take several months ,years or generations.   So please pardon our appearance if any of this offends you,  or ruins your ability to enjoy what you used to enjoy 3 to 20 yrs ago.   We appreciate your business and your patience in this matter...............signed the Coalition for Pandemic affected Prostitutes,Hustlers,Opportunists,Raggedy Expats,8 min and 4 min Ytubers etc for Greater Tourism in Puerto Plata Province.

Some things that actually are undergoing some renovations is the hotel that was never completed by Enquantro next to Coconuts, they are cleaning up the area and removed a lot of vegetation and looks like someone may take a shot at finishing it.

I also heard the property close to Perla Marina has been taken over and someone who would have enough influence to get sidewalks built and trees planted is intending to reopen it. I toured it maybe three years ago. A beautiful spot.

Also the condo development at the entrance to Enquantro is going ahead and has been renamed "Connections" and is targeting a new (not that there is anything wrong with that) market.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on April 25, 2021, 06:00:34 PM
Kings is huge now, they spent some money on the glass and covered the parking lot. i guess they did not get the memo about having to close and move to the other end of the road.

VLV ... kings won't have to move since they are not affected by the decree ... it's a restaurant, not a bar or a disco. By the decree, only restaurants and other buisnesses are allowed to stay open in that area of PC.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 25, 2021, 06:31:13 PM
Kings is huge now, they spent some money on the glass and covered the parking lot. i guess they did not get the memo about having to close and move to the other end of the road.

VLV ... kings won't have to move since they are not affected by the decree ... it's a restaurant, not a bar or a disco. By the decree, only restaurants and other buisnesses are allowed to stay open in that area of PC.

Fair enough, not sure i would ever eat in there. And it did not look like anyone was when i was in there Friday night. Never been in a restaurant with a DJ yelling "Bronx in da house, Atlanta in da house", and never been in a restaurant with a VIP couch section that when the DJ yelled "Miami in da house" some fellas got up and threw money in the air.

I guess Merengue is in the restaurant category, i did see some microwave popcorn served once.

Pretty solid police presence on Pedro. I have not seen the paddy wagon, or any girls running, but chicas do not mill around much with the popo walking the beat.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 25, 2021, 06:54:33 PM
Sirs as posted Day time action baileys and other day time  spots, adjust and adapt,as far as the videos on point. just a snap shot  not the whole big picture,,,   the old Strip is not comeing back like the wild west hay days,,,,once this covide BS Scamdemic is over venues will open   , Have fun   !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on April 26, 2021, 05:20:59 PM
exactly ... when this curfew is over, everything will reopen, just not at the same place. The strip will just move to the other end of PC, lots of bars and discos will pop on that side of town, others on the old strip will close and be replaced by shops, restaurants and other venues.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bingo321 on April 26, 2021, 06:33:44 PM
What's the recommended circuit these days going into the night?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 26, 2021, 09:19:54 PM
exactly ... when this curfew is over, everything will reopen, just not at the same place. The strip will just move to the other end of PC, lots of bars and discos will pop on that side of town, others on the old strip will close and be replaced by shops, restaurants and other venues.

yeah... I am just not so sure how this is gonna play out. When first i heard about the development by High Caribbean it was supposed to be the new "Red Light" district. But its just a bar. That is not open. Will it even open after curfew is finished?

And what is supposed to close and move? Kings? Its a bar. Its says "King restaurant and sports bar" on the sign, but its a bar. I have never seen a restaurant with a mechanical bull. And they have spent some money on improvements, if they get to stay, why should others close? Will it be capacity? Can little places stay? Why?

The only real way to allow the "action" to move, is tolerate it in one area, and not tolerate it in another. My guess is before a business will be required to close and move some other steps may be taken. Single females without male company will not be permitted in an establishment on the strip maybe. They tried it before. If they can enforce that, no girls on the strip, no mongers, a family friendly zone. Bars will close on their own.

There is a pretty strong police presence at the moment, they are not picking up girls, but there must be an understanding as there are not that many just milling around as we have seen in the past. A few more towards Hotel Europa.

I guess we will see. I doubt much will happen until fall.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 27, 2021, 08:28:02 AM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/22/sale-of-alcohol-prohibited-on-beaches/
 (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/22/sale-of-alcohol-prohibited-on-beaches/)

Sale Of Alcohol On Beaches Is Prohibited :


Alcohol adulterators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

Santo Domingo, DR

In response to the balance of a hundred deaths due to the ingestion of adulterated beverages, the authorities launched yesterday a set of actions aimed at confronting this criminal business, which includes the prohibition of the sale of alcoholic beverages on beaches and excursions, the addition of an unpleasant flavoring to methanol, among others.

Since last year, the National Drug Control Directorate (DNCD) delivered to the Ministry of Public Health a list of companies that have purchased methanol. At the same time, the General Directorate of Internal Taxes (DGII) reported that today it would meet with the company responsible for creating the traceability seal and implementing the “Revísate” platform to facilitate distinguishing the authentic drink from the counterfeit.

Yesterday, employing a resolution, the Ministry of Tourism banned the sale of alcoholic beverages on the country’s beaches to prevent adulterated alcohol from being offered to national and foreign tourists.

Also, the Ministry of Tourism provisionally prohibited alcoholic beverages on excursions. The Ministry of Defense will make random inspections of businesses in tourist areas to check if the alcohol sold there is counterfeit.

The Minister of Tourism, David Collado, said that this decision was taken after a first meeting of the Tourism Cabinet to deal with how the President of the Republic, Luis Abinader, participated.

The second meeting where the issuance of the resolution with the ban was confirmed was held yesterday in Punta Cana with hoteliers and tourism stakeholders from all country regions.

When asked what sanctions would be applied to those who violate this regulation or who are found to have a contaminated drink, the Minister of Tourism commented very certainly, “the full weight of the law, from closing the hotel to being brought to justice.”

Deadly methanol
To prevent methanol from continuing to be used in the production of adulterated alcoholic beverages, the industry that imports and uses this substance will have to add an unpleasant flavor that will prevent people from drinking it and thus stop intoxications and deaths due to this cause, revealed yesterday the Minister of Public Health, Daniel Rivera. He said that adding an unpleasant flavor is part of the agreements reached with the industry that uses methanol for its regular work to act as a warning so that people do not ingest this drink that can lead to death.

DGII WILL CONTROL
Traceability stamp
The Director of Internal Taxes, Luis Valdez, said that out of 135 companies registered as alcohol marketers in the country, only 22 were up to date with the payment of their taxes. Still, after he arrived at the entity, some of them have already started to pay. He said that today he would meet with the company that created the traceability seal and the “Revísate” platform to implement them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on April 27, 2021, 08:30:54 AM
I guess I'll have to get my igloo tumbler hooked up at flips for my beachwalk! Haha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 27, 2021, 12:18:25 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/25/alcohol-ban-on-beaches-and-excursions-will-be-in-effect-for-60-days/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1n9yGjA7ijb9lxm6qzCl3wgt_0v2IgY7FcN5vRUggU507fRvsXuBKSDIE (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/04/25/alcohol-ban-on-beaches-and-excursions-will-be-in-effect-for-60-days/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1n9yGjA7ijb9lxm6qzCl3wgt_0v2IgY7FcN5vRUggU507fRvsXuBKSDIE)

Alcohol ban on beaches and excursions will be in effect for 60 days


The ban on the sale of alcoholic beverages on beaches and tourist attractions will be extended for at least two months, and sector operators point out that the measure puts tourism businesses at risk.

In the last month, almost a hundred people have died due to the ingestion of drinks adulterated with methanol, according to data handled by the authorities.

For this reason, the Ministry of Tourism issued the “temporary and preventive” measure, which can be extended for a more extended period, in case the authorities deem it necessary. Resolution DJ-010-2021 of that institution also includes sanctions to those who fail to comply with the sale, distribution, and consumption of alcoholic beverages in excursions or tours or on the country’s beaches.

The president of the Association of Aquatic Companies of the province of La Altagracia, Albania Martínez, rejected the prohibition and proposed measures to prevent the resolution from affecting tourism and recreational activity companies where alcohol is an essential element.

“Our suggestion is that a list be supplied with the authorized liquor companies, after inspection by the authorities so that we can work with them,” she said.

Dominican tourism, which contributes almost a third of the foreign exchange coming into the country, has been one of the sectors most affected by the crisis caused by COVID-19.

After declaring the problem of adulterated alcohol as a matter of national security, authorities reported this week that they redoubled vigilance in tourist destinations in the Dominican Republic to prevent alcoholic beverages of secret origin and components unfit for human consumption from reaching those poles.

They also announced the reinforcement of controls on the importation and commercialization of methanol.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on April 27, 2021, 09:19:18 PM
This is devastating to the bars along the beach. Must be a real problem for such a drastic action. The beer in your hotel room refrigerator will now be even more important. The big winner here will be bars on the strip.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 28, 2021, 05:09:21 AM
So no cold beer on the beech,,,Hows that going to go on a busy Sunday when you have Familys comeing from santo domingo and they cant have a cold beer !  !!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Pussyrus1422 on April 28, 2021, 07:27:51 PM
So no cold beer on the beech,,,Hows that going to go on a busy Sunday when you have Familys comeing from santo domingo and they cant have a cold beer !  !!!

Playaro Supermarket, and at least 10 Colmados in Charamicos / and or Sosua Abajo area all deliver. What else does the 100's of moto conchos have to do on a Sunday?   I don't have to tell you that Dominicans will not go thirsty on any beach in the DR.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 28, 2021, 09:31:49 PM
I don't know, i have not been down to the beach, but the very limited problems have to do with fake booze being put in real bottles.

I cant imagine it has anything to do with beer.

Again with the "what was i thinking" i seem to recall having sipped some fermented or distilled liquid through a straw out of a baggie way the f--k north of Bangkok about 30 years ago.

Made it! telling the tales!

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 01, 2021, 04:18:41 PM
I can only speak for Sosua Beach.   There has been no ban of alcohol sales or consumption on the beach.   No kind of enforcement or concern whatsoever. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 08, 2021, 07:06:48 AM
Wednesday May 5, 2021

Tried out Fat Jesses Restaurant Bar on the strip.  It's next door to the Italian restaurant Elefante Rossi and across the street from Jolly Roger.   2 familiar faces were working there.  Luna who used to have the ice cream/slush caseta on the beach where Zanzibar is now.   And Nuris who worked briefly for The Tree House.  Luna is one of the Camareras, and Nuris is the manager at Fat Jesses.

Sort of a fast food spot , also with a breakfast menu.   They have burgers and fries, Chicken and Beef Cheese steak sandwiches, Chicken Wings with various sauces and spices, Fried fish.   

I briefly saw the breakfast menu on the flip side.  On it was Chicken w/Waffles, and other standard breakfast items.   

Desserts were on the menu, but not available that night.

A bar that makes and serves most drinks.  No drink menu to look at, but they may make whatever drink you want.   One buddy had a pina colada, another had a cuba libre.  For food my buddy had the regular cheese steak, and i had the chicken cheese steak.   Both were tasty sandwiches.  The fries were tasty.   Sometimes a sandwich may be good, but the fries arent so good.  But I was impressed with the fries.   Didnt like their ketchup.  Typical sweet Dominican brand Ketchup.  Bring your own, if necessary, or eat it plain.    Prices were good too.   

For a quick meal,  it was ok.  Definitely a good spot to watch people and traffic go by.  Sitting at the tables close to the sidewalk one can easily scout out talent walking by.  Chicks be looking for work as they pass by.   On the strip, there is no need for a fishing line or bait,  the fish jump in the boat.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Gutter meat on May 10, 2021, 04:57:16 AM
with the 10pm curfew and free transit till midnight do you have to be in a vehicle in between 10pm and midnight or it's ok to be on foot walking back to hotel?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on May 10, 2021, 10:44:31 AM
@ Gutter Meat you don't need to be in a vehicle during the free transit period.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Gutter meat on May 10, 2021, 12:55:16 PM
Are there motoconchos driving around after midnight?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on May 10, 2021, 01:32:13 PM
Are there motoconchos driving around after midnight?
Yes. All night long.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 15, 2021, 07:50:55 AM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/ciudad/decreto-gobierno-mantiene-vigencia-del-toque-de-queda-NC26245976 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/ciudad/decreto-gobierno-mantiene-vigencia-del-toque-de-queda-NC26245976)
Translated from Spanish    READ VERY CAREFULLY.   THIS ARTICLE CONTRADICTS ITSELF.   It claims the Govt is maintaining the same curfew schedule in force, until May 30th   

Santo Domingo 5/14/2021 8:51pm

Decree | Government Maintains curfew.   

Free transit from Monday to Friday will be until 12 midnight
The measure will be in effect until May 30


The Dominican Government maintains the same curfew schedule in force in the country until Sunday, May 30.

In accordance with Decree 319-21, President Luis Abinader ordered that the curfew continue as of Monday the 17th with all the measures already in place.


Here's the problem right here :
This implies that the curfew, from Monday to Friday, will start from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m., with an additional three hours for people to reach their homes . Free transit will be until 12:00 noon.

While on weekends it will be from 9:00 at night to 5:00 in the morning, with free transit until 12:00 at night.


My Take :   I believe whoever wrote this article or edited it, was supposed to write Monday to Friday, the curfew is from 10:00 P.M. to 5:00 A.M. ,    not 9:00 P.M. to 5:00 A.M.  And free transit until 12 noon?   Whats that all about?     The weekday schedule is the same as the weekend schedule.  If all 7 days the curfew is the same, they dont need to break it down that way.     All they had to say was, the curfew is the same for all 7 days.   But like I said, I believe what was written was a mistake.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 15, 2021, 09:54:24 AM
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on May 15, 2021, 10:22:38 AM
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today

Maybe it's just a bad translation but does the article says the first guy named is a cop from santiago?
If it does, then I hope they beat his ass off in jail ...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 15, 2021, 10:28:58 AM
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today

Maybe it's just a bad translation but does the article says the first guy named is a cop from santiago?
If it does, then I hope they beat his ass off in jail ...

You're correct the article says the main perpetrator is a cop. Note how they refer to his accomplices as civilians
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on May 15, 2021, 11:56:54 AM
I'm surprised by this.   Strong-armed robberies of tourists are highly unusual in Sosua.
I’m not sure what a guillo is, but the chain might have definitely been a motivator. Chain, staying at new Gardens, more tourist in Sosua than previously this year. Might have been a big temptation, maybe this guy had an obviously expensive piece that was unique enough to make th guys risk it all. A Haitian guy tried to warn me of one Dominican moto with a knife and gun who was supposedly watching me when I was walking at night, around Hispaniola towards the strip back in March but I brushed it off. All I wear of value is Bluetooth headphones, so if I were sighted for a jacking I’m guessing the jewelry definitely was appealing. With guys getting robbed for 10k worth of jewelry in Colombia, I’m assuming it’s another tourist with an expensive piece standing out, not just a 500-2000$ gold chain
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on May 15, 2021, 11:58:45 AM
Well b4 the TMBTS news reporter chimes in let me say this. STOP WEARING THAT JEWELRY IN THESE SHITHOLE COUNTRIES!! We already targets in these places why make yourself a BIGGER ONE??



 Good thing is they caught the punks quickly. Unlike in the hoods of America these Dominicans will rat each other out when pressured. Trust me....them police there know to apply PRESSUE, seen it first hand more than once.

Dominican media has no love for criminals like the US media.. Unfortunately in the USA the media would lose their minds if they did this
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on May 15, 2021, 12:06:25 PM
I'm surprised by this.   Strong-armed robberies of tourists are highly unusual in Sosua.

With guys getting robbed for 10k worth of jewelry in Colombia, I’m assuming it’s another tourist with an expensive piece standing out, not just a 500-2000$ gold chain

What you mean it's not expensive? A 1000-2000usd chain is expensive, it will take a DR policeman 5, 6 months or more to afford that and that's without paying any other bills.

That's the equivalent of walking round in someone else's hood with a $10,000 chain on in the states. You most likely will get robbed or worse.

Leave that jewelry in the states..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on May 15, 2021, 12:58:55 PM
I'm surprised by this.   Strong-armed robberies of tourists are highly unusual in Sosua.

With guys getting robbed for 10k worth of jewelry in Colombia, I’m assuming it’s another tourist with an expensive piece standing out, not just a 500-2000$ gold chain

What you mean it's not expensive? A 1000-2000usd chain is expensive, it will take a DR policeman 5, 6 months or more to afford that and that's without paying any other bills.

That's the equivalent of walking round in someone else's hood with a $10,000 chain on in the states. You most likely will get robbed or worse.

Leave that jewelry in the states..
A lot of guys wear jewelry in Sosua especially the ones who stay in new gardens and anhvee. I’m saying it likely was an exceptional piece, I doubt it was opportunistic if it’s a cop pulling out a gun on PC on tourist to do a strong arm robbery. PC is the busiest area of Sosua even at night time due to the lights and businesses. A 10k piece of jewelry looks different than a 1000-2000$ piece most of the times be it the diamonds or designs
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 15, 2021, 01:21:49 PM
Here’s the photo that was posted with the story. I assume that the chain shown here belonged to one of the tourists.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on May 15, 2021, 01:35:14 PM
Well b4 the TMBTS news reporter chimes in let me say this. STOP WEARING THAT JEWELRY IN THESE SHITHOLE COUNTRIES!! We already targets in these places why make yourself a BIGGER ONE??



 Good thing is they caught the punks quickly. Unlike in the hoods of America these Dominicans will rat each other out when pressured. Trust me....them police there know to apply PRESSUE, seen it first hand more than once.

Dominican media has no love for criminals like the US media.. Unfortunately in the USA the media would lose their minds if they did this

And therein lies the problem.   The justice system pussyfoots around with criminals... talking about "their rights."   When a person commits a crime, especially one as violent as this, he forfeits his rights.  And should be subjected to unconventional pressure tactics to implicate his accomplices.
They are innocent. Until proven guilty,  by the court of law.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 15, 2021, 02:23:09 PM
As a REAL jewelry owner, a lot of the jewelry these cats wear are sterling silver pieces dipped in gold, (if not outright fake, lol).  Getting robbed is horrible. Getting robbed for low tier jewelry is even worse. Smh.

If the Cuban link choker and bracelet are solid gold (let’s start at 14k), the set depicted in the crime photo is about $4,000 - $5,000 USD.

I doubt the crime victims were wearing the real, solid gold deal. If they were really balling, they wouldn’t have been staying at New Garden. No disrespect to New Garden, but the presentation of the dollars and cents usually match the expenditures.

If you’re balling, you’re probably not going to stay at New Garden.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on May 15, 2021, 02:35:18 PM
As a REAL jewelry owner, a lot of the jewelry these cats wear are sterling silver pieces dipped in gold, (if not outright fake, lol).  Getting robbed is horrible. Getting robbed for low tier jewelry is even worse. Smh.

If the Cuban link choker and bracelet are solid gold (let’s start at 14k), the set depicted in the crime photo is about $4,000 - $5,000 USD.

I doubt the crime victims were wearing the real, solid gold deal. If they were really balling, they wouldn’t have been staying at New Garden. No disrespect to New Garden, but the presentation of the dollars and cents usually match the expenditures.

If you’re balling, you’re probably not going to stay at New Garden.

Them Cubans be semi solid. Thats the new shit 🤷🏽‍♂️ lol. They be real chains, just economy style. I wear well over 10k on my neck, & my chain half the girth of that pic.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on May 15, 2021, 03:07:15 PM
As a REAL jewelry owner, a lot of the jewelry these cats wear are sterling silver pieces dipped in gold, (if not outright fake, lol).  Getting robbed is horrible. Getting robbed for low tier jewelry is even worse. Smh.

If the Cuban link choker and bracelet are solid gold (let’s start at 14k), the set depicted in the crime photo is about $4,000 - $5,000 USD.

I doubt the crime victims were wearing the real, solid gold deal. If they were really balling, they wouldn’t have been staying at New Garden. No disrespect to New Garden, but the presentation of the dollars and cents usually match the expenditures.

If you’re balling, you’re probably not going to stay at New Garden.
I figured they might have gotten them for some real bling type jewelry, I wore that stuff back in middle school and high school. Idk what tempted the robbery but that’s some low tier stuff as you said. The pictures have me looking at this now in a completely different light. The cop was an economy robber. He did a burglary of a dollar tree, and went out sad.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Brickholder on May 15, 2021, 04:20:36 PM
Here’s the photo that was posted with the story. I assume that the chain shown here belonged to one of the tourists.

Pretty heavy chain but not to be a hater its either plated or low quality gold. From a novice, I can see someone mistaking this for a 10k+ cuban bracelet and necklace set.

The gold from the picture just looks off to me. Not hating just an observation.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 16, 2021, 05:50:43 AM
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today
Do you have a link to the article?  What publication did you get this info from?  When did this happen?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jack C on May 16, 2021, 06:19:54 AM
STOP WEARING THAT JEWELRY IN THESE SHITHOLE COUNTRIES!!

Yeah, leave it all home -- anything of value -- especially if on vacation where the only women you are going to deal with or want to 'impress' are HOOKERS lol. Why dudes go there fronting like that for 3rd world paid for pussy is beyond me. Other than my laptop and phone, I am bringing nothing of value with me except the necessary cash.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 16, 2021, 06:23:17 AM
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today
Do you have a link to the article?  What publication did you get this info from?  When did this happen?

https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/apresan-cabo-de-la-policia-y-tres-civiles-mientras-atracaban-en-sosua-MA26261085?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&fbclid=IwAR1eivZ99uOXHPw1GF89rk63uO7bNw5pmEryD7X-_vouwXRqauz7lg3Gv60
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 16, 2021, 06:28:44 AM
Detras del Rumor

To all our readers, about Sos ùa and her safety
Regarding an unpleasant event that happened last Saturday morning, when nanos armed 2 tourists were robbed and possible perpetrators immediately after detained, it is necessary to say, ′′ This is not common in this city, in more than 14 years of intense communication work we have not registered a case of this nature in the center of the city, it is an isolated fact, which should not be any concern, we know that there are many things to correct and we will be there to report them, but let me say that we are still being the safest tourist destination city in the entire Dominican Republic, with the lowest crime rate, making us the ideal place to vacation with yours.
Lic. Fabio R. Garcia
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: lazy_monger on May 16, 2021, 07:45:09 AM
I wonder what that chain and bracelet goes for?  I don't know anything about pricing jewelry.  I don't wear it. 

A $300 chain looks no different than a $3000 chain to me.

You and me both.  I had to look up cuban link and the first site I clicked on had a 14K gold one for $18,100.  I wouldn't have looked twice at something like that much less know the price.

This crime seems extremely unusual for Sosua.  That said, might not be a good idea to be wearing that much money around your neck in a third world country.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 16, 2021, 08:25:10 AM
Detras del Rumor

To all our readers, about Sos ùa and her safety
Regarding an unpleasant event that happened last Saturday morning, when nanos armed 2 tourists were robbed and possible perpetrators immediately after detained, it is necessary to say, ′′ This is not common in this city, in more than 14 years of intense communication work we have not registered a case of this nature in the center of the city, it is an isolated fact, which should not be any concern, we know that there are many things to correct and we will be there to report them, but let me say that we are still being the safest tourist destination city in the entire Dominican Republic, with the lowest crime rate, making us the ideal place to vacation with yours.
Lic. Fabio R. Garcia
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today
Do you have a link to the article?  What publication did you get this info from?  When did this happen?

https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/apresan-cabo-de-la-policia-y-tres-civiles-mientras-atracaban-en-sosua-MA26261085?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&fbclid=IwAR1eivZ99uOXHPw1GF89rk63uO7bNw5pmEryD7X-_vouwXRqauz7lg3Gv60
1st off thanks for the link.   This incident has major potential to be a big deal for the entire country.   Especially within Sosua and any other tourist destination.   And yet so far,  this incident doesnt seem to have received major coverage on the various mainstream mediums?   Or should I say , YET?    The statement from Detras Del Rumor almost appears to be an attempt at damage control because they posted the incident on their site.   

Perhaps certain entities wanted to keep this under wraps?   Especially an incident involving assaulting and robbing tourists.   This incident is the last thing tourism officials want to get out to the general public and abroad.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 16, 2021, 08:29:31 AM
I wonder what that chain and bracelet goes for?  I don't know anything about pricing jewelry.  I don't wear it. 

A $300 chain looks no different than a $3000 chain to me.

You and me both.  I had to look up cuban link and the first site I clicked on had a 14K gold one for $18,100.  I wouldn't have looked twice at something like that much less know the price.

This crime seems extremely unusual for Sosua.  That said, might not be a good idea to be wearing that much money around your neck in a third world country.

Saw some fellas rolling with very big gold watches. $200 or $20,000, i could not tell from 20 feet away. So no big deal if it's only $200 and you lose it... Except you might get whipped in the face with a pistol if someone wants it.

I have a few nice watches. Nothing 20K but enough that it would piss me off if i lost one. I travel with a very plain citizen with a stretchy band that i bought in a duty free for $60. It tells me what time to go home.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on May 16, 2021, 11:31:29 AM
1st off thanks for the link.   This incident has major potential to be a big deal for the entire country.   Especially within Sosua and any other tourist destination.   And yet so far,  this incident doesnt seem to have received major coverage on the various mainstream mediums?   Or should I say , YET?    The statement from Detras Del Rumor almost appears to be an attempt at damage control because they posted the incident on their site.   

Perhaps certain entities wanted to keep this under wraps?   Especially an incident involving assaulting and robbing tourists.   This incident is the last thing tourism officials want to get out to the general public and abroad.

For sure now it's out for the public to view, they will make an example of those robbers to show that the autorities don't tolerate robing tourists.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 16, 2021, 11:45:24 AM
Posted on FB by Fabio owner of Detra del Rumor.

To all our readers, about Sosùa and her safety
Regarding an unpleasant event that happened last Saturday morning, when nanos armed 2 tourists were robbed and possible perpetrators immediately after detained, it is necessary to say, ′′ This is not common in this city, in more than 14 years of intense communication work we have not registered a case of this nature in the center of the city, it is an isolated fact, which should not be any concern, we know that there are many things to correct and we will be there to report them, but let me say that we are still being the safest tourist destination city in the entire Dominican Republic, with the lowest crime rate, making us the ideal place to vacation with yours.
Lic. Fabio R. Garcia
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on May 18, 2021, 09:37:41 AM
nothing to see here. it is an isolated incident and will have absolutely no effect on the thirsty muthafers coming down there for pussy. the ballers will continue to wear the blng to get attention like a fishing lure for fish at pussy central-ahnvee.. and by the way, those chains look fake, plated at best.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 18, 2021, 02:38:17 PM
nothing to see here. it is an isolated incident and will have absolutely no effect on the thirsty muthafers coming down there for pussy. the ballers will continue to wear the blng to get attention like a fishing lure for fish at pussy central-ahnvee.. and by the way, those chains look fake, plated at best.

Vacationtime,

Do you count yourself amongst “the thirsty?” I mean, there has to be a reason why you’re a member of this forum, yes? You’ve never been to Sosua? 😐
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 18, 2021, 11:54:08 PM
Detras del Rumor

To all our readers, about Sos ùa and her safety
Regarding an unpleasant event that happened last Saturday morning, when nanos armed 2 tourists were robbed and possible perpetrators immediately after detained, it is necessary to say, ′′ This is not common in this city, in more than 14 years of intense communication work we have not registered a case of this nature in the center of the city, it is an isolated fact, which should not be any concern, we know that there are many things to correct and we will be there to report them, but let me say that we are still being the safest tourist destination city in the entire Dominican Republic, with the lowest crime rate, making us the ideal place to vacation with yours.
Lic. Fabio R. Garcia
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today
Do you have a link to the article?  What publication did you get this info from?  When did this happen?

https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/apresan-cabo-de-la-policia-y-tres-civiles-mientras-atracaban-en-sosua-MA26261085?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&fbclid=IwAR1eivZ99uOXHPw1GF89rk63uO7bNw5pmEryD7X-_vouwXRqauz7lg3Gv60
1st off thanks for the link.   This incident has major potential to be a big deal for the entire country.   Especially within Sosua and any other tourist destination.   And yet so far,  this incident doesnt seem to have received major coverage on the various mainstream mediums?   Or should I say , YET?    The statement from Detras Del Rumor almost appears to be an attempt at damage control because they posted the incident on their site.   

Perhaps certain entities wanted to keep this under wraps?   Especially an incident involving assaulting and robbing tourists.   This incident is the last thing tourism officials want to get out to the general public and abroad.
Yes damage control just like when the swiss tourist was knocked off by insiders at casa marina,, that was  hushed up !!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 19, 2021, 08:36:53 AM
Detras del Rumor

To all our readers, about Sos ùa and her safety
Regarding an unpleasant event that happened last Saturday morning, when nanos armed 2 tourists were robbed and possible perpetrators immediately after detained, it is necessary to say, ′′ This is not common in this city, in more than 14 years of intense communication work we have not registered a case of this nature in the center of the city, it is an isolated fact, which should not be any concern, we know that there are many things to correct and we will be there to report them, but let me say that we are still being the safest tourist destination city in the entire Dominican Republic, with the lowest crime rate, making us the ideal place to vacation with yours.
Lic. Fabio R. Garcia
Armed robbery of tourists on Pedro Clisante. Very unusual.

SOS ÙA - GOOD JOB PN
RUSH ONE CABO PN AND TWO CIVILS ATTRACHING TYRITES.
ELVIS FRANCISCO Ramos SILVERIO, National Police Cabo, attached to the preemptive police of (S6) Santiago de Los Caballeros, was taken into custody on the main road Sos ùa Montellano aboard the KIA brand car, color black Plate A62usted994 in conjunction with the KIA civilians ALEJANDRO JR QUIRO TORRES, QUILVIO PEREZ MORETA, and GENARO PADILLA CABRERA, after having assaulted two tourists in the street Pedro Clisante in the sector El Batey, Sos ùa municipality.
Detainees using firearms attacked hitting North American national BLYDEN CHAMEL in the head, who was injured IN THE FRONT AREA OF THE HEAD, according to medical diagnosis from the General Hospital Gregorio Luperón de Villa Montellano and WALKER RAYMOND, both tourists, temporarily hosted in The New Garden Hotel.
Tourists violently were stripped of a chain and a guillo, early morning today
Do you have a link to the article?  What publication did you get this info from?  When did this happen?

https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/apresan-cabo-de-la-policia-y-tres-civiles-mientras-atracaban-en-sosua-MA26261085?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&fbclid=IwAR1eivZ99uOXHPw1GF89rk63uO7bNw5pmEryD7X-_vouwXRqauz7lg3Gv60
1st off thanks for the link.   This incident has major potential to be a big deal for the entire country.   Especially within Sosua and any other tourist destination.   And yet so far,  this incident doesnt seem to have received major coverage on the various mainstream mediums?   Or should I say , YET?    The statement from Detras Del Rumor almost appears to be an attempt at damage control because they posted the incident on their site.   

Perhaps certain entities wanted to keep this under wraps?   Especially an incident involving assaulting and robbing tourists.   This incident is the last thing tourism officials want to get out to the general public and abroad.
Yes damage control just like when the swiss tourist was knocked off by insiders at casa marina,, that was  hushed up !!!
Sure was kept on the low.  Many that I know ( that live throughout the area ), including myself didnt know anything about that incident, until someone provided the story.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on May 19, 2021, 08:52:34 AM
@ poon. i come to DR every 2 months for at least 1 week but not usually sosua. am i thirsty? not really much. im never in a hurry, i dont overpay and i  search for the non pros/semipros  or others  new to the game. i come solo. no need for a crew. i drive when there so it is easy to go anywhere quickly. went to ahnvee once just to see what all the fuss was about but it is not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 19, 2021, 10:17:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZCRMDdY4_w
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZCRMDdY4_w)   Cerise Fairfax visit and review.    https://youtu.be/hqhV39Ivwfo (https://youtu.be/hqhV39Ivwfo)   Visit and review by myIQisBBQ

Zanzibar Restaurant and Bar.   Home of BBQ and Smoked meats.   Caseta #109 on Sosua Beach ( the numbers may be out of sequence )     Owner : Kerry

For the past few weeks , I have been enjoying the food at the recently opened Zanzibar.   Their meats are prepped and prepared on site and hours ahead.  They import and also make their own sauces for their meats.   They have Pork Ribs, BBQ or Fried Chicken and Turkey wings/legs.  They make their cooked side items over night so they are ready that day.    You can have a hot/fresh meal in front of you,  within 20 minutes.   They even have small meal options,  or you can make a meal out of side items that dont cost and arm and a leg.   Specialty drinks, such as Mojitos : Ginger, Blackberry, Strawberry,Chinola,and Mango flavors.   New items : Sangria, Lemon Cheesecake, Green Salad and Cornbread

Open Wednesday to Sunday  12pm to 6pm ( longer if necessary ).  Closed Monday and Tuesday

Pros : 

1. From placing an order to having a plate in front of you, less than 30 min ( depending on meat and volume of customers ).  10 to 20 min wait on average.

2. Courteous service always.  Occasionally offers samples of items, or complimentary items. 

3. Courteous and warm greetings while passing by whether you eat there or not.   None of that I treat you like you treat me crap.   Or I dont speak to you, if you dont eat at my place crap.

4. No knee jerk attitudes to deal with on a simple complaint or inquiry.  The owner is open to suggestions and constructive criticism without busting out with an attitude.  "Like how dare you, I have been doing blah blah blah for years"

4a. Quick to resolve issues with an order,  usually with emphasis on pleasing the customer.  That, instead of being in denial of someones concerns and acting like the customer is being a ball buster.   

5. Very conscientious when it comes to their menu.   For example.  He started serving sangria, but didnt want to over charge the customers.  He changed the side item portions from 3oz to 5 oz, so customers would have a better value.   The turkey meal prices are extremely reasonable IMO.   Currently 495 pesos for the wing and 2 sides, and 595 for the leg and two sides.  Very decent amount of meat on them.   IMO he can afford to raise the price on those turkey items, but for now chooses to keep it the way it is.   

6. Dont have to worry about the cook doing almost everything.   Cooking, serving, busing tables, making drinks, waiting on guests.  Thats too much work for one or two people.  At Zanzibar they have enough staff on hand to manage most guests needs.

7. Guests can order food from The Tree House, or Velero restaurants,  and dine at Zanzibars. 

8. Something very important.  Cleanliness of the premises, cleanliness and work habits of the staff, 2 rest rooms available for guests.   

Cons :

Nothing particular, still under review

Suggestions?  :

May need more staff especially for large crowds.   More seating as well.   Although I have been advised that The Tree House area may be open to Zanzibar guests. 


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on May 19, 2021, 10:28:51 AM
Facts.  All true about Zanzibar.  It's one of my regular stops. And chicas are always within arms length.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 20, 2021, 06:03:34 PM
@ poon. i come to DR every 2 months for at least 1 week but not usually sosua. am i thirsty? not really much. im never in a hurry, i dont overpay and i  search for the non pros/semipros  or others  new to the game. i come solo. no need for a crew. i drive when there so it is easy to go anywhere quickly. went to ahnvee once just to see what all the fuss was about but it is not my cup of tea.

I hear you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Purfreek on May 22, 2021, 11:58:48 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/05/22/curfew-will-not-be-extended/

The straight dope...at least for now, no new restrictions!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on May 23, 2021, 12:04:00 AM
I imagined we would reach this stage soon and this is great to hear!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 23, 2021, 08:39:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VhFqhcjhhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VhFqhcjhhI)

Kerry from Zanzibar restaurant on the beach ( Caseta #109 ), and Ytuber Barber World TV.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on May 23, 2021, 08:57:56 PM
I imagined we would reach this stage soon and this is great to hear!!
What stage?  LMAO  The article says that doctors wanted to take stricter action due to the out break in Santo Domingo. But the Minister of Health decided to let the population take care of itself and to get mass vaccinations....lol  I'm sure that will work out.....lol  He did say that if cases continue to rise, an earlier curfew would be enforced. Great news, huh Papi?    HOLD OFF ON THOSE FLIGHTS!!!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on May 23, 2021, 09:05:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VhFqhcjhhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VhFqhcjhhI)

Kerry from Zanzibar restaurant on the beach ( Caseta #109 ), and Ytuber Barber TV World.   

Yoooo!! At timestamp 5:18  Whodat???
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 23, 2021, 09:47:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VhFqhcjhhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VhFqhcjhhI)

Kerry from Zanzibar restaurant on the beach ( Caseta #109 ), and Ytuber Barber TV World.   

Yoooo!! At timestamp 5:18  Whodat???
Looks like the chick on the beach that walks around with some gadget.  Possibly selling lottery tickets.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Purfreek on May 23, 2021, 10:58:51 PM
I imagined we would reach this stage soon and this is great to hear!!
[/quote But the Minister of Health decided to let the population take care of itself and to get mass vaccinations....lol  I'm sure that will work out.....lol 
Oh the woe of letting FREE people make their own decisions!!!  What percentage of people in the DR have died again??? Oh yeah, that's right...
Dominican Republic population (2020): 10,848,000
http://data.un.org/en/iso/do.html
COVID-19 deaths: 3,606
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

(3,606 / 10,848,000) x 100 = 0.0003%
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Rafael on May 24, 2021, 04:41:33 AM
These rumors regarding Covid 19 and the DR are bullshit. Go on the W.H.O. (World Heath Organization)site . New cases in the DR 386 compared to last week 1400 down the previous week 1700. The trend is dropping just like the Matrix as more people in the DR are being vaccinated,

Now Santo Domingo a different stoy, packed living conditions no compliance with mask or curfews and a bunch of your party crazy mofo's who don't give a flying f--k about life
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on May 25, 2021, 05:53:13 AM
These rumors regarding Covid 19 and the DR are bullshit. Go on the W.H.O. (World Heath Organization)site . New cases in the DR 386 compared to last week 1400 down the previous week 1700. The trend is dropping just like the Matrix as more people in the DR are being vaccinated,

Now Santo Domingo a different stoy, packed living conditions no compliance with mask or curfews and a bunch of your party crazy mofo's who don't give a flying f--k about life
Get your head out of ass smell some fresh air!
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/05/22/oxygen-demand-grows-due-to-increase-in-covid-cases/
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 28, 2021, 01:23:58 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/05/27/abinader-new-curfew-will-be-for-two-weeks/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/05/27/abinader-new-curfew-will-be-for-two-weeks/)

Just an update indicating the duration of the New Curfew beginning May 27th for Santo Domingo and The Nacional District

COVID-19 May 27, 2021 | 1:37 pm
Abinader: New Curfew will be for TWO WEEKS


    It only covers Greater Santo Domingo
    It starts at 8:00 at night from this Thursday

 

The new curfew to be imposed by the Government for the province of Santo Domingo and the National District due to the high rate of contagion of COVID-19 will be for two weeks only, announced the President of the Republic, Luis Abinader.

The new restriction schedule begins at 8:00 p.m. until 5:00 a.m., with a grace period of three hours to transit. It will be the whole week and begins this Thursday 27th.

The Executive Power has not yet released the decree to provide the new measures to face the disease.

The president said the new curfew in Barahona during a council of Ministers he held.

“Already in Greater Santo Domingo, we are talking specifically about Greater Santo Domingo, and in Greater Santo Domingo we are going to limit for two weeks the confinement from 8:00 at night to 5:00 in the morning with three hours of grace,” detailed the president to a question from the press.

He specified that the hours of free transit are exclusively for people to go home after concluding their activities.

He also spoke about the restrictions on consuming alcoholic beverages and the limitations in public places to avoid crowds to reduce the spread of the disease.


My take :   After two weeks,  there may be some re-evaluation of the Covid situation in SD.   IMO,  no province may be completely free from health officials suggesting and implementing having curfews re-instated.    So dont be so quick to rejoice just yet.   And we must not forget there are still other sectors of the DR economy unable to return to complete normalcy.  Such as clubs and discos.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 28, 2021, 03:36:17 PM
Talked to an amiga in Puerto today, mask mandate still in effect in side and on transit. Few people what to get the vaccine because the only one on offer is from China. Any one with money is going to Miami or Puerto Rico for their shots.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 30, 2021, 11:14:40 PM
Today was Mother's Day in the DR.   I thought this was only for Dominicans.  But apparently Haitians also celebrate Mother's Day here in the DR.   Being that this was a Sunday which is usually family day at the beach,  I expected the beach to be full of Dominicans.   Instead,  IMO the beach was filled with half the amount of Dominicans I would usually  see on a Sunday.

Moreover, there wasnt a massive amount of chicas on patrol , walking back and forth looking for work on the beach.   Maybe many were posted up in and outside of Bailee's?   Or perhaps resting from a strong Saturday night?  What I surmised,  is that today being Mother's Day,  a lot of chicas were home with their families celebrating the day.   After leaving The Tree House by Las Palmeras around 9:55pm,  I noticed that there were a lot of chicas out and about looking for work.   

If tonight is indeed the last night of having a curfew,  Im certain that chicas are going to be all over the place in the up coming days/weeks.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 31, 2021, 08:41:20 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/ciudad/gobierno-dispone-nuevo-toque-de-queda-desde-600-de-la-tarde-HC26605345On (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/ciudad/gobierno-dispone-nuevo-toque-de-queda-desde-600-de-la-tarde-HC26605345On)

Saturdays and Sundays it will start at 3:00 in the afternoon
The schedule will be applied according to the level of contagion and the rate of positivity of COVID-19 in the provinces.

As of this Wednesday, June 2 and until the 9th of the same month, a new curfew schedule will begin in the country, according to the Executive Power.

The measure is contained in decree 349-21, which establishes mobility restrictions according to the level of contagion and the rate of positivity of COVID-19 in the demarcations.

In 24 provinces and the National District, the curfew hours will be from Monday to Friday, from 6:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning, and on weekends, from 3:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning.


The provinces in which this measure will govern are Azua, Bahoruco, Barahona, Dajabón, Elías Piña, El Seibo, Hato Mayor, Hermanas Mirabal, Independencia, La Romana, María Trinidad Sánchez, Monsignor Nouel and Montecristi.

Similarly, in Monte Plata, Pedernales, Peravia, San Cristóbal, San José de Ocoa, San Juan, San Pedro de Macorís, Sánchez Ramírez, Santiago Ramírez, Santo Domingo and Valverde.

In all the aforementioned provinces there will be free movement of an additional three hours every day, for people to reach their homes.

On the other hand, a different schedule is established for the curfew in the provinces with the lowest level of contagion and the rate of positivity.


Different hours in seven provinces

This will be in force from 10:00 at night to 5:00 in the afternoon ( ERROR ) and on weekends from 9:00 at night to 5:00 in the morning.

This more relaxed schedule will be in the provinces Duarte, Espaillat, La Altagracia, La Vega, Samaná, Santiago and Puerto Plata.

As provided above, in these seven districts there will be a grace of free movement until 12:00 midnight, every day.

My take :  Obviously this new curfew plan is a change from a recent proposal to not extend the curfew or impose strict curfew policies.  The govt heads must have thought it over and decided to come up with this new curfew.   Note, for now this measure is from June 2 until June 9th.    After that, there is no telling what the govt may decide.   

But as for 7 of the provinces with supposedly the "lowest level of contagion " which includes Puerto Plata province,  the same curfew schedule that just ended will be applied during that time frame.   When you think about it,  technically, tonight May 31st and tomorrow June 1st,  there really is no curfew schedule in place for Puerto Plata province.     












Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Gutter meat on June 01, 2021, 04:42:55 PM
So basically the curfew in Sosua remains the same. 10pm weekdays..9pm weekends with 2 hours of travel. Is that accurate?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 01, 2021, 06:55:30 PM
So basically the curfew in Sosua remains the same. 10pm weekdays..9pm weekends with 2 hours of travel. Is that accurate?
More accurately,  from June 2 until June 9th are those same hours.   Free travel is until 12 midnight.   Week nights it's 2 hours free travel after curfew.  Weekends it's 3 hrs after curfew.   Technically,  a curfew beyond June 9th as far as Sosua is concerned has not been established yet.   If no curfew is established,  or the govt doesnt tell us the curfew will stay in effect,  the curfew expires on June 10th.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 08, 2021, 07:40:42 AM
You guys already know,  here in Sosua the authorities are not playing in regards to the Govt's alcohol ban after 3pm.   The 1st two or three days of the current ban,  most folks operated like in the past.   We had an alcohol ban before, and when it was implemented folks still managed to get their drink on at SOME venues. 

Drinks were served in plastic or styrofoam cups.  Minimal/casual patrols from police , especially on the beach.   Everyone having a good time.  As far as everyone was concerned there was no strict ban.   At some colmados,  one might still be able to purchase alcohol on the sly tip.   The big supermercados, and liquor stores stopped alcohol sales as instructed.

But as of this past Saturday things were vastly different.  According to one source/beach proprietor, the police had undercover lookouts supervising along the beach checking for violators of the alcohol ban.   Also in attendance were the higher up police brass,  out in force making sure their task force were addressing the situation.   

When they found a place in violation,  the task force showed up with the look out there to point out who to detain.

Unlike days before,  there really wasnt any strong higher up officers on the beach.  Just the normal low ranking police presence.    The authorities this time werent just looking out for alcohol sales.  They were also checking for alcohol consumption.    As far as they were concerned no one was supposed to even have alcohol out after 3pm.   

Subsequently, several people from a few businesses supposedly got arrested. Including Big D ( who I havent seen in a while )
My source claims he almost got arrested himself,  but a quick thinking customer intervened to take responsibility for a drink he had on the premises.   Today is the 8th, and tomorrow is the 9th.   Unless the ban is extended,  June 10 the imposed alcohol ban should be over.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on June 08, 2021, 07:54:45 AM
Damn they almost arrested Big D.....wow :o
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 08, 2021, 08:12:26 AM
Damn they almost arrested Big D.....wow :o
My source said Big D was arrested, not almost.  It was supposed to have been his birthday.  He was supposedly on the beach celebrating it.   Unless you know different?   I do know this,  where Big D is located now ( next door to Mosha's Jamaican Cuisine ),  the Cestur police along with their pickup truck and ATV usually post up just a few feet from his establishment.   

So it wouldnt surprise me that his place was an easy target for a bust.   I believe because previous alcohol bans were loosely enforced ( especially on the beach ),  people simply modified how they went about selling and consuming it in public.   So they may have thought this ban was no different than before?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 08, 2021, 08:18:33 AM
http://noticiasenn.net/apresan-propietarios-de-negocios-en-sosua-por-venta-de-bebidas-alcoholicas-en-horario-no-permitido (http://noticiasenn.net/apresan-propietarios-de-negocios-en-sosua-por-venta-de-bebidas-alcoholicas-en-horario-no-permitido)

Translation from Spanish.   

Sosúa.- The National Police together with the Ministry of the Interior and Police (MIP) ordered this Saturday the provisional closure of different commercial establishments as well as the arrest of their owners.

The closure of said centers responds to the violation of decree number 349-21 in its articles 8, which establishes that “The sale of alcoholic beverages to be consumed in public and private spaces for public use is prohibited at the national level from 3: 00 p. m. until 5:00 a.m. m., as well as the consumption of these products in those places "
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 08, 2021, 08:48:06 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/todas-las-medidas-que-se-mantienen-vigentes-con-la-extension-del-toque-de-queda-FG26757244
 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/sucesos/todas-las-medidas-que-se-mantienen-vigentes-con-la-extension-del-toque-de-queda-FG26757244)
Not surprised, curfew is extended, plus assorted guidelines.   

SANTO DOMINGO 06/08/2021, 12:38 PM

Translated from Spanish :

All the measures that remain in force with the extension of the curfew.

The President of the Republic, Luis Abinader, issued Decree 364-21 that provides that the curfew and the other measures provided in articles 5 to 20 of Decree number 349-21, of May 30, 2021, are extended until Wednesday June 16, 2021, inclusive.

Schedule:
In 24 provinces and the National District, the curfew hours will be from Monday to Friday, from 6:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning, and on weekends, from 3:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning.

The provinces in which this measure will govern are Azua, Bahoruco, Barahona, Dajabón, Elías Piña, El Seibo, Hato Mayor, Hermanas Mirabal, Independencia, La Romana, María Trinidad Sánchez, Monsignor Nouel and Montecristi.


Similarly, in Monte Plata, Pedernales, Peravia, San Cristóbal, San José de Ocoa, San Juan, San Pedro de Macorís, Sánchez Ramírez, Santiago Rodríguez, Santo Domingo and Valverde.

The other circulation schedule:
On the other hand, a different schedule is established for the curfew in the provinces with the lowest level of contagion and the rate of positivity.

This will be in force from 10:00 at night to 5:00 in the afternoon and on weekends from 9:00 at night to 5:00 in the morning.

This more relaxed schedule will be in the provinces Duarte, Espaillat, La Altagracia, La Vega, Samaná, Santiago and Puerto Plata.


Bars, restaurants and entertainment :

As bars and restaurants must operate with 50% capacity and without exceeding 6 people per table. In addition to a curfew from Monday to Friday starting at 6 in the afternoon and on weekends from 3:00 PM.

This has led to the cancellation of numerous events that were planned to be held with a small audience, and reports of clandestine parties and concerts with well-known artists.

All activities and massive events that involve an agglomeration of people throughout the national territory are prohibited.

Outdoor activities and sports practices :

The regulation provides that people may use open spaces in the open air throughout the national territory such as parks, boardwalks, for activities that do not involve crowds and in strict compliance with health protocols. The same applies to private and public places for public use.

It also provides that places dedicated to sports and physical exercise throughout the national territory, such as gyms, may receive clients in their facilities up to 50% of their total capacity.

Religious activities :

It is provided that religious activities may be held three times a week, the activities of the different churches and other religious denominations, in strict compliance with current sanitary protocols and without exceeding 50% of the capacity of their facilities.

Binational markets :

All binational markets are closed.

Deliveries and transportation :

As employees or contractors of restaurants, pharmacies or grocery stores that provide home delivery of cooked or raw food or medicines, who will have permission to circulate until 11:00 at night exclusively during the exercise of their functions.

Likewise, the Santo Domingo Metro will be operating on Saturdays and Sundays from 6:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and the cable car from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

While both services will operate from Monday to Friday from 6:00 am to 8:00 pm.

While the OMSA service will operate from 6:00 am until the conclusion of free transit.

Sale of alcoholic beverages :

The Executive Power prohibited the sale of alcoholic beverages to be consumed in public and private spaces for public use.

The prohibition of the sale of alcoholic beverages for consumption in public places will be from 3:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning nationwide.

Tourist area :

The tourism sector will be managed in accordance with its protocol.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 09, 2021, 06:36:16 AM
Dont be shocked if they dont get a handle on it they exstend beyond June 9 Th  just Saying !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 09, 2021, 10:00:22 AM
Dont be shocked if they dont get a handle on it they exstend beyond June 9 Th  just Saying !
Tug what are you talking about?   The post above yours is the new extension past June 9th, that I posted here and in it's own topic.   It's been extended.  What we can also expect is an extension beyond June 16th.    You even responded to it in the other thread.   Are you drunk?  See , this is why we need the alcohol ban.  LOL   ;D

For Tugs eyes only :

All the measures that remain in force with the extension of the curfew.

The President of the Republic, Luis Abinader, issued Decree 364-21 that provides that the curfew and the other measures provided in articles 5 to 20 of Decree number 349-21, of May 30, 2021, are extended until Wednesday June 16, 2021, inclusive.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 17, 2021, 05:22:43 PM
Funny I dont Drink. Ok Sir while were on the subject.   Do you think there going to move the goal post further down the field.  They have done it before.   Plan accordingly  sirs.   Murno what we really  want to know daily chica count and talent and fotos please.   Thanks sir !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 17, 2021, 08:34:09 PM
Funny I dont Drink. Ok Sir while were on the subject.   Do you think there going to move the goal post further down the field.  They have done it before.   Plan accordingly  sirs.   Murno what we really  want to know daily chica count and talent and fotos please.   Thanks sir !
There are numerous members here.  Many do offer info on chica volume, talent and fotos, if they choose.   And with a paid membership,  more fotos may be available for those seeking that.   How one spends their time on TMBTS looking for the information they seek,  is entirely on that individual.   Sometimes the information people seek is there, but it often gets missed.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 18, 2021, 10:51:53 PM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on June 19, 2021, 06:13:42 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

There’s a couple of gorditas in that video. I’m pretty sure they are getting PAID big bucks!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on June 19, 2021, 06:16:44 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

I will not be surprised if the powers that be come down hard on Bailees and shut it down for allegedly promoting that kind of stuff. Like they did to Rhumbas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 19, 2021, 07:42:07 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

Another pudo's video full of fat whales  ::)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on June 19, 2021, 08:09:35 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

I will not be surprised if the powers that be come down hard on Bailees and shut it down for allegedly promoting that kind of stuff. Like they did to Rhumbas.

Al NYC,

That won’t happen to Bailee’s. It’s a legitimate restaurant establishment, and everyone that comes there is coming there to dine. Whomever people connect with before, during, or after the dining experience, isn’t the restaurant’s business. There are no illicit activities taking place on the premises, no chicas rolling up in thong bikinis, see-through tops, etc.

Bailee’s will be fine.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on June 19, 2021, 08:17:44 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

Another podo's video full of fat whales  ::)

Hmm. 🤔

So a fat whale to you is a chica with a nice, big ass, and a flat stomach? Lol.

When you have a big butt along with a big gut and thick ass arms, yeah, you might call THAT a whale as you say, but I didn’t see a lot of that in the video.

What I saw was a good amount of nice sized tits and ass.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 19, 2021, 09:49:22 AM
crazy canuck likes to share hate and try to put people down.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mr Back Shot on June 19, 2021, 02:59:07 PM
I watched half the video. Only a handful that were not whales in my opinion. To each their own.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 19, 2021, 03:02:41 PM
I watched half the video. Only a handful that were not whales in my opinion. To each their own.

That's about what I settled on. Some guys just like their women big. Not my thing, but if that's what a guy likes I'm not going to hold it against him. Mas flaquitas para me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Evac305 on June 19, 2021, 10:18:21 PM
Another video of Bailee’s talent.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOTXZdyicw
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on June 20, 2021, 09:09:01 AM
Another video of Bailee’s talent.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOTXZdyicw

There was a time not to long ago 90% of those spandex fatties were considered 1,000 RD or less chicas.
To each there own but my have the standards dropped for what many will settle for.

I could never imagine getting on a plane to f--k any of that when you can find that all over the USA

But you boys keep chasing them fatties as it saves the good ones for us dudes with standards
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 20, 2021, 09:56:48 AM
I see that there are some real assholes here. Yeah, you know who you are. Every chica that you like is fine and should be on a pedestal for all men to agree that they are the finest in the land. While every other chica you don't like is degraded, humiliated and anyone that likes them shamed and chastised. GTFOH and take your brainwashed insecurities with you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 20, 2021, 09:58:40 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

Another podo's video full of fat whales  ::)

Hmm. 🤔

So a fat whale to you is a chica with a nice, big ass, and a flat stomach? Lol.

When you have a big butt along with a big gut and thick ass arms, yeah, you might call THAT a whale as you say, but I didn’t see a lot of that in the video.

What I saw was a good amount of nice sized tits and ass.

I don't see much "flat stomach" there Poon ... pudo is notorious for making poor quality videos with lots of fat whales and disgusting rats ... yeah sometimes you see a nice chica but between the 100's of chicas in his vids, I never even see more than a handful of chicas worth f--king.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 20, 2021, 10:03:05 AM
crazy canuck likes to share hate and try to put people down.

No offense papi ... but what you call hate, I call it critizism. I don't consider myself picky or with high standards, but I am really amazed how low some people standards are. To each his own, but I will always tell it like it is, that vid is full of fat whales and rats.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 20, 2021, 10:08:25 AM
I watched half the video. Only a handful that were not whales in my opinion. To each their own.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/15/84/94/53/naamlo10.jpg)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 20, 2021, 10:09:41 AM
Another video of Bailee’s talent.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOTXZdyicw

There was a time not to long ago 90% of those spandex fatties were considered 1,000 RD or less chicas.
To each there own but my have the standards dropped for what many will settle for.

I could never imagine getting on a plane to f--k any of that when you can find that all over the USA

But you boys keep chasing them fatties as it saves the good ones for us dudes with standards

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/15/84/94/53/44673210.jpg)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 20, 2021, 10:11:59 AM
Numbers do not make the truth. And it is never ok to degrade someone. Sadly some of you go out of your way to put others down.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 20, 2021, 10:31:25 AM
Numbers do not make the truth. And it is never ok to degrade someone. Sadly some of you go out of your way to put others down.

Again ... you complain about people telling the cold hard truth ... you know the old saying: it's always better telling the cold hard truth than a sweet lie.
I think you just taking it hard because we are telling the truth about your favorite chica pool  ::)
Don't take it too hard papi, you do you.
Just don't come here and tell us that vid is full of beautiful chicas ... it's just not true ... very far from truth.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 20, 2021, 10:49:52 AM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

Another podo's video full of fat whales  ::)

Hmm. 🤔

So a fat whale to you is a chica with a nice, big ass, and a flat stomach? Lol.

When you have a big butt along with a big gut and thick ass arms, yeah, you might call THAT a whale as you say, but I didn’t see a lot of that in the video.

What I saw was a good amount of nice sized tits and ass.

I don't see much "flat stomach" there Poon ... pudo is notorious for making poor quality videos with lots of fat whales and disgusting rats ... yeah sometimes you see a nice chica but between the 100's of chicas in his vids, I never even see more than a handful of chicas worth f--king.

And he tends to focus on the bigger girls and gives little camera time to the few less bigger girls he films. He either likes them sloppy and big or he’s hell bent on chasing guys off from going to Sosua.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 20, 2021, 11:01:40 AM
Numbers do not make the truth. And it is never ok to degrade someone. Sadly some of you go out of your way to put others down.

Again ... you complain about people telling the cold hard truth ... you know the old saying: it's always better telling the cold hard truth than a sweet lie.
I think you just taking it hard because we are telling the truth about your favorite chica pool  ::)
Don't take it too hard papi, you do you.
Just don't come here and tell us that vid is full of beautiful chicas ... it's just not true ... very far from truth.
The only truth here is that you're an asshole.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 20, 2021, 12:06:03 PM
My opinion is my own and I think anyone who constantly belittles others is a piece of shit that recognizes himself in the same manner he put on others, and not worthy of respect.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 20, 2021, 12:40:47 PM
My opinion is my own and I think anyone who constantly belittles others is a piece of shit that recognizes himself in the same manner he put on others, and not worthy of respect.


Papi, this is a whore board. Guys are going to comment on their assessment of the market. We’re not here to make you or women we don’t give a shit about feel good.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Rafael on June 20, 2021, 01:03:14 PM
PAPI'S A f--kING KEY BOARD TROLL. HE KNOW ALLOT ABOUT EVERYTHING, BUT NOT ENOUGH ABOUT ANYTHING TO GIVE ADVICE
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on June 20, 2021, 01:18:13 PM
PAPI'S A f--kING KEY BOARD TROLL. HE KNOW ALLOT ABOUT EVERYTHING, BUT NOT ENOUGH ABOUT ANYTHING TO GIVE ADVICE

Exactly he is an expert in his own mind and thinks his opinion is the only opinion.  Probably thinks if he says something about every subject it will somehow provide him with some credibility

Might work with the newbies but those in the know are well aware he outed himself as a pretender along time ago.

Cry's like a little baby whenever someone takes a position contrary to whatever he says.

Guys gonna chase whoever they like but he knows full well the same fat trash that a certain group is now paying 4,000-5,000 RD consistently are the same group of chicas that were often going for less than $1,000 RD not that long ago and that's a fact.    And it has nothing to do with the increase in the exchange rate.   Other factors are in play now.

Chase that fat garbage if you want but don't get all butt hurt about it.  Clearly if it bothers you there is a reason for it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 20, 2021, 02:36:30 PM
Says a lot about you when you have no problem humiliating and degrading others.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 20, 2021, 03:15:38 PM
Bailee’s talent.

https://youtu.be/UJW_x0KqcMI

Another pudo's video full of fat whales  ::)
Fat whales is an understatement, i prefer the skinny haitians on the stroll Pedro cillantee , DR Rossen !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: CaptCaribbean on June 20, 2021, 04:39:08 PM
Gotta say that PapiP was generous with his experience here in advance of my trip. It’s made a good difference and I’m grateful.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 20, 2021, 05:04:54 PM
Glad we were of help. It is the shared goal of members in the forum to assist and encourage others to get out of the matrix, enjoy yourselves, and make the most of your vacations.  There is a lot to see and do in addition to mongering on the north coast.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 20, 2021, 05:34:46 PM
Numbers do not make the truth. And it is never ok to degrade someone. Sadly some of you go out of your way to put others down.

Again ... you complain about people telling the cold hard truth ... you know the old saying: it's always better telling the cold hard truth than a sweet lie.
I think you just taking it hard because we are telling the truth about your favorite chica pool  ::)
Don't take it too hard papi, you do you.
Just don't come here and tell us that vid is full of beautiful chicas ... it's just not true ... very far from truth.
The only truth here is that you're an asshole.

An asshole who spits the truth ... I'd better be an asshole telling the truth than a lying gentlemen.
Thinking about it now ... I know why you are so upset: we ain't fishing in the same pond and you are upset I piss in yours.
You know, I like you papi ... you are entertaining in  your own way. But if you don't like my opinion, because it's just that, my opinion, you have the option of passing by without reading everytime you see one of my posts, or putting me on ignore ... for what I care.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Artbell1 on June 20, 2021, 09:06:30 PM
And miss out on the opinion of someone who lives in the homeland of Gord Downie and Paul Langlois (Our Secret Weapon)?

CC, I enjoy your posts.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Artbell1 on June 20, 2021, 09:07:12 PM
Glad we were of help. It is the shared goal of members in the forum to assist and encourage others to get out of the matrix, enjoy yourselves, and make the most of your vacations.  There is a lot to see and do in addition to mongering on the north coast.

Amen!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mr Back Shot on June 20, 2021, 09:35:28 PM
I watched half the video. Only a handful that were not whales in my opinion. To each their own.

That's about what I settled on. Some guys just like their women big. Not my thing, but if that's what a guy likes I'm not going to hold it against him. Mas flaquitas para me.

Like these ? The photo angle is bad but they both had nice round asses and tits that were a full handful. No baby damage or swollen belly. Faces were above average, both natural hair. Chica on left slightly thicker with bigger tits. Impulse buy.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Artbell1 on June 20, 2021, 09:40:10 PM
Very nice, just what I like.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 20, 2021, 10:31:00 PM
I watched half the video. Only a handful that were not whales in my opinion. To each their own.

That's about what I settled on. Some guys just like their women big. Not my thing, but if that's what a guy likes I'm not going to hold it against him. Mas flaquitas para me.

Like these ? The photo angle is bad but they both had nice round asses and tits that were a full handful. No baby damage or swollen belly. Faces were above average, both natural hair. Chica on left slightly thicker with bigger tits. Impulse buy.

And look at that clear youthful skin. What guys see in those tatted up old overweight women with bad cosmetic work when succulent youngsters are available is simply beyond my power to understand.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on June 20, 2021, 10:44:12 PM
I gotta agree with Papi.

The majority of guys on this board love to degrade and insult people....and for what?  What do you get out of it? A laugh?

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 21, 2021, 05:53:33 AM
Cant judge a book by its cover, its the luck of the draw, that younger chica may not be skilled,,, thats way you have to teach them the proper ways haha, also that fat  chica may give you one hellava  of a ride  you just dont know , Vibe and vett  Also your best friend is a trusted repeat chica, meaning use the tella chica net work, if your chica is not avaible she can provide a pinth hitter albeit a  cousin sister mother even granny too, case in point  going to go back in time,    One of my earlier trips met a nail salon granny, big as house not ugly but loooked like your average older granny donimican or haitian,, well long story short   this ole granny put in the work  just as good as a hot 22 yr old dime,   dont knock older chicas  there well versed in makeing you happy,,,,Observations sirs,   take your time  weed thru the scamming lack luster harden pros,  theres a seat for every ass and and ass for every seat,,,Have fun !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on June 21, 2021, 10:11:24 AM
I gotta agree with Papi.

The majority of guys on this board love to degrade and insult people....and for what?  What do you get out of it? A laugh?

Yeah, ok. Just don’t say anything negative about DR.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 21, 2021, 11:05:04 AM
I know I am the last member to be talking about staying on topic.  I'd like to keep this thread more about Current Observations and Events concerning the DR and Sosua particularly.  That rather than it deviating towards about each other.  Thanks.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 21, 2021, 11:11:11 AM
69 pages and counting! That's quite an achievement. Eventhough from time to time each thread can dip into madness. Youll have to keep it in check. Haha
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/xT0xeBA6roXgqpDxVm/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 21, 2021, 07:02:03 PM
Like these ? The photo angle is bad but they both had nice round asses and tits that were a full handful. No baby damage or swollen belly. Faces were above average, both natural hair. Chica on left slightly thicker with bigger tits. Impulse buy.

you almost never see that kind of women in pudo's vids ... it's almost like he avoids them on purpose  ::)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 22, 2021, 07:24:32 AM
Ok current events as of Sunday June 20th 2021 :

The Tree House ( TTH ) on the beach reopened after about a month of being closed for renovation.    Had my 1st delicious meal, one of my favorites.  Large garden salad with chicken w/extras in it.   I ordered it and ate it while sitting at Zanzibar's ( Z ).   Both places allow one to order from each others' menu.   Including Velero restaurant on the beach. 

One thing that was nice to see.  Zanzibar and TTH both were busy with customers this Sunday.  The entire time that TTH was closed for renovation, Kerry and his staff from Zanzibar did an awesome job making their presence felt developing their own menu.   Customizing and adding things as they progressed.  Add in friendly customer service.    More on that later.   

One of the key things that may thrust Kerry into entrepreneur stardom on the beach, is that he is very proactive when it comes to interacting with his customers and even potential customers.   Making sure folks find seats and are comfortable.  He's constantly looking out to see if anybody needs anything while they dine.    However IMO, I kinda think that he's doing entirely too much detailed work as the business owner.   

He either needs staff with a higher skill set and high motivation, and/or to hire more staff that can do most of the detailed work.  My observation is,  his local staff just are not professionally trained or prepared for the increasing demand of operating this restaurant.  And to be honest, neither is/was Kerry prepared to work with locals in trying to operate a restaurant.   

In spite of these challenges, Zanzibar is doing a pretty good job of making their mark of now being one of the favored restaurants on the beach for smoked BBQ ribs, Turkey and chicken wings.   Their sides alone have routinely been sought after like crack or as if one had the munchies.   Namely, the mac & cheese, potato salad and the BBQ beans.   

I've seen some folks double up on these sides.   And him being sold out on some side items before the day was over.   Kerry made a remark recently that he may have to limit how many orders of sides a customer can get at one time.  I learned my lesson.  I sat all day at Z, had one meal.  Decided later in the afternoon to have a snack, tried to order a side of potato salad with some cornbread.   Couldnt get any.  Both were done.   

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 22, 2021, 07:50:30 AM
In other news,  there's banter in the air that Mosha Jamaican Cuisine on the beach is opening up a spot next door to Mr Flip Flop near Pedro Clisante ( off the beach ).    What I do NOT know, is if Mosha is leaving the beach entirely,  or just adding another location?    I do recall briefly watching a YT video where Mr Flip Flop mentioned that a business owner from the beach was contemplating on acquiring the property next door ( to his business ) and opening up his business there.   

This will be interesting to see how this plays out.   Especially if Mosha is leaving the beach entirely.   What will become of Mosha's spot on the beach?   Was Big D restaurant ( next door to Mosha ) and some of the other restaurants too much competition for Mosha's place?

How will things change for Mosha at his new place,  or for Mr Flip Flop who has been established at his spot for a minute?  One good thing for Mosha.  At the new spot, he'll be a lot closer to the grocery stores in case he needs to leave to get supplies.    On the other hand,  leaving the beach could be a detriment.   At the beach, one may be able to sit and relax or wander off ( and come back later ) while waiting for a nice fresh cooked meal. 

But if he's off the beach,  I dont see how he can pull off having diners sit for over an hour for their meals?   At least when folks were on the beach,  they could easily walk the beach.   Stop somewhere else for a drink or a chat.   Make it back to Mosha's in order to get their eat on.    So hopefully,  Mosha has some well cooked plans on how to pull this off.   One maybe,  he's still operating on the beach.   Just adding another location.   

To be continued.......
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JoeRoc on June 22, 2021, 09:21:34 PM
Another video of Bailee’s talent.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOTXZdyicw

There was a time not to long ago 90% of those spandex fatties were considered 1,000 RD or less chicas.
To each there own but my have the standards dropped for what many will settle for.

I could never imagine getting on a plane to f--k any of that when you can find that all over the USA

But you boys keep chasing them fatties as it saves the good ones for us dudes with standards

You can find that in the USA but in Sosua you can sleep without the headache. Big broads in the US have the same attitude as the pretty girls in the US. I wish the "fatties" still cost $1K RD honestly Id be down there every weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on June 22, 2021, 10:07:09 PM
In other news,  there's banter in the air that Mosha Jamaican Cuisine on the beach is opening up a spot next door to Mr Flip Flop near Pedro Clisante ( off the beach ).    What I do NOT know, is if Mosha is leaving the beach entirely,  or just adding another location?    I do recall briefly watching a YT video where Mr Flip Flop mentioned that a business owner from the beach was contemplating on acquiring the property next door ( to his business ) and opening up his business there.   

This will be interesting to see how this plays out.   Especially if Mosha is leaving the beach entirely.   What will become of Mosha's spot on the beach?   Was Big D restaurant ( next door to Mosha ) and some of the other restaurants too much competition for Mosha's place?

How will things change for Mosha at his new place,  or for Mr Flip Flop who has been established at his spot for a minute?  One good thing for Mosha.  At the new spot, he'll be a lot closer to the grocery stores in case he needs to leave to get supplies.    On the other hand,  leaving the beach could be a detriment.   At the beach, one may be able to sit and relax or wander off ( and come back later ) while waiting for a nice fresh cooked meal. 

But if he's off the beach,  I dont see how he can pull off having diners sit for over an hour for their meals?   At least when folks were on the beach,  they could easily walk the beach.   Stop somewhere else for a drink or a chat.   Make it back to Mosha's in order to get their eat on.    So hopefully,  Mosha has some well cooked plans on how to pull this off.   One maybe,  he's still operating on the beach.   Just adding another location.   

To be continued.......

There is nothing about a Jamaican menu that is cooked to order except maybe festival and sweet plantain. You walk into a house in Yard and the pots are on the stove and have been all day. No reason food should not be ready to go, or at least ready to warm up. It's pretty basic cooking.

I have not been to his place. If you order and pay and are told when to come back for food, fine.

If you sit down like a restaurant and someone takes your order and brings you a drink... I will be walking off after 30 minutes and not coming back.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 03:00:23 PM
It's Tuesday June 29th, 2021.

What's going on in Sosua?   Have the authorities finally put the nail in the coffin?   Yesterday, a buddy of mine claimed he hadnt seen but 6 chicas around town.  The strip and the usual places where chicas loiter or patrol,  he said there were none to be found.  I was in for 2 days straight, except for a few trips.   So I hadnt really been out long enough to take notice.   

My understanding the police have been out in full force snatching up girls left and right, and working hard to keep them off the street.  Not just in the vincinity of the strip, but all over town.   The beach is usually the safest place for chicas until the beach begins to shut down. 

After returning from PP,  I proceeded to drive around town,  and I swear many of the chicas I would see out and about have disappeared.   No chicks hanging in or around Bar Central,  no customers or chicas at the German restaurant next door.   I thought it was odd not seeing any day time customers at least having a few drinks.   But then after 3pm,  consuming alcohol is over.   So I guess guys say whats the point of hanging out there if you cant drink?

No chicks around Rumba/Kings.   None on any of the corners.   Mid block where New Garden is,  no chicas?   Usually a few are outside trying to find work.   How about Bailee's?   Well could not see much inside when passing by, but I noted that I didnt see many taxis or motos out hanging around like you would usually see.   

After passing Super Super and the banks,  girls that stay in the rooms nearby,  you would usually see a few out and about.  Move further just before Europa, and that Dominican food spot, and the little bars next to it,  no raggedy chicas hanging around.  Something must have happened in the last 48 hrs, that I missed by being house bound?   On the corner by Europa, no raggedy chicks hanging on the corner,  or sitting up at the Europas bar.   

Ok I make it down to Ahnvee, and the street looks deserted.  Meaning, the usual mass of taxis are gone.  Only maybe two or three taxis.   I guess Bourbon Street can give us the 411 or whats going on inside of his complex?   Because from the outside ,  it's not obvious whether or not one can go in just to have a meal,  unless you are a hotel guest.   

If indeed there has been a recent crackdown on chica movement and round up of chicas,  and this is expected to be the new norm,  this is going to be a major game changer for guys with upcoming plans to be here.     Of course I need to continue to monitor whats going on,  to make sure the reason Im not seeing many chicas out in the street, isnt because it is hot as hell outside.   

And Im hoping that after it cools down,  then there will be the usual amount of chicas out on patrol looking for work.    Chicas using motos and taxis to get around.   What would be helpful , is more boots on the ground intel from other cats in town.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 29, 2021, 03:27:48 PM
Well it's not my mind I want her to blow...But let's crank up that rumor mill because AHNVEE IS NOW THE ONLY PLACE TO GET CHICAS!!!
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/hS2oKKcukqCl9Q1iip/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 29, 2021, 03:34:01 PM
I’ve been here since Saturday. I think Ahnvee did not open this weekend. I can confirm they weren’t open last night. Pedro was pretty busy last night, but it’s like a ghost town this afternoon. I’m at the beach now. There’s a decent contingent of chicks here. Surprisingly there is both an absence of fat chicks and mongers.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on June 29, 2021, 03:37:35 PM
It's Tuesday June 29th, 2021.

What's going on in Sosua?   Have the authorities finally put the nail in the coffin?   Yesterday, a buddy of mine claimed he hadnt seen but 6 chicas around town.  The strip and the usual places where chicas loiter or patrol,  he said there were none to be found.  I was in for 2 days straight, except for a few trips.   So I hadnt really been out long enough to take notice.   

My understanding the police have been out in full force snatching up girls left and right, and working hard to keep them off the street.  Not just in the vincinity of the strip, but all over town.   The beach is usually the safest place for chicas until the beach begins to shut down. 

After returning from PP,  I proceeded to drive around town,  and I swear many of the chicas I would see out and about have disappeared.   No chicks hanging in or around Bar Central,  no customers or chicas at the German restaurant next door.   I thought it was odd not seeing any day time customers at least having a few drinks.   But then after 3pm,  consuming alcohol is over.   So I guess guys say whats the point of hanging out there if you cant drink?

No chicks around Rumba/Kings.   None on any of the corners.   Mid block where New Garden is,  no chicas?   Usually a few are outside trying to find work.   How about Bailee's?   Well could not see much inside when passing by, but I noted that I didnt see many taxis or motos out hanging around like you would usually see.   

After passing Super Super and the banks,  girls that stay in the rooms nearby,  you would usually see a few out and about.  Move further just before Europa, and that Dominican food spot, and the little bars next to it,  no raggedy chicas hanging around.  Something must have happened in the last 48 hrs, that I missed by being house bound?   On the corner by Europa, no raggedy chicks hanging on the corner,  or sitting up at the Europas bar.   

Ok I make it down to Ahnvee, and the street looks deserted.  Meaning, the usual mass of taxis are gone.  Only maybe two or three taxis.   I guess Bourbon Street can give us the 411 or whats going on inside of his complex?   Because from the outside ,  it's not obvious whether or not one can go in just to have a meal,  unless you are a hotel guest.   

If indeed there has been a recent crackdown on chica movement and round up of chicas,  and this is expected to be the new norm,  this is going to be a major game changer for guys with upcoming plans to be here.     Of course I need to continue to monitor whats going on,  to make sure the reason Im not seeing many chicas out in the street, isnt because it is hot as hell outside.   

And Im hoping that after it cools down,  then there will be the usual amount of chicas out on patrol looking for work.    Chicas using motos and taxis to get around.   What would be helpful , is more boots on the ground intel from other cats in town.

Damn… Thanks for the updated @Murano
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 04:19:07 PM
I stepped out again to run an errand,  and this time took a little more time to look around.   Bailee's has several tables occupied by chicas.  Maybe more than I could see from the street, like in the back area too.   So there's no threat of chicas being banned from being there.  At least not yet.   Still the taxi and moto representation was lacking.   Rumba/Kings dead.  Around New Garden dead.   Passed Bar Central for a better look.  No chicas up in there.  Virtually dead, no customers. 

German restaurant?  The usual white guys there piled up front, and a few tables taken.  But no chicas posted up in there.  Looks like folks were content on drinking soft drinks.   It's funny.  Earlier, when I passed by the German restaurant, there wasnt a soul there?   Maybe all of these guys were home or at the beach?  And a certain time they agree to meet up there?   

Something else I failed to consider.  It is a Tuesday.   It's possible a lot of chicks left to go home, and will be back by at least Thursday?   Many of these chicks are in direct contact with their clients/regulars.   And they have it figured out who and when their coming.

Even my old regular that came up two weeks ago.  She informed me she was coming to Sosua.  And she sent me a message today telling me she was coming again.   She lives in SD.  Perhaps the curfew restrictions has driven away her client base.   She quit Sosua long ago,  because her action was working very well without leaving Santo Domingo. But she was a great provider.   

But now, things are different.  But thats not all.  Her client(s) are probably coming directly to Sosua.  So she figures why not contact any other clients on the north coast, and add me into her financial rotation.   What she tried to do, is get me to let her stay at my place.   But I aint having that.   The moment I busted a nut her last visit, I was happy to see her leave.   She asked if I will see her later,  but I never did.  Once was enough.  Those loving/lustful years we had are over.   

This new visit,  she's got one shot. 

So maybe because it's Tueday.  It's hot as hell outside, and thats why there arent many chicas around.   If they are at the beach, and many typically are in the day,  I missed it by not being there.   When it's hot like this,  this is a golden opp for chicas to sport some skin, and their skimpy wardrobes.   

By night fall,  that is when it will get interesting.   The female cops on PC are on foot stationed right on the strip.   Cestur and the crackdown crew may be in full effect in just a few hours from now.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 04:25:52 PM
I’ve been here since Saturday. I think Ahnvee did not open this weekend. I can confirm they weren’t open last night. Pedro was pretty busy last night, but it’s like a ghost town this afternoon. I’m at the beach now. There’s a decent contingent of chicks here. Surprisingly there is both an absence of fat chicks and mongers.
There you have it.  Chicas were on the beach this afternoon, not so much around town.   I actually think most of these chicks have plenty of whatsapp contacts already in their phones of guys in town.   Those are the ones who can afford to lay low until later tonight, when it cools down.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 04:49:26 PM
Did I emphasize enough how HOT it is/was today?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 29, 2021, 05:08:47 PM
Quite a few chicas seem to be working directly from their hotels. They’re standing out front waiting on customers all the way up to the end of transit time. There was on absolute beauty standing outside the rooms on the way to Ahnvee on the right hand side of the street. If there was a chick in Sosua worth $100 ST she was it. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bourbon street on June 29, 2021, 07:05:33 PM
For us things are too unpredictable. f--kery as usual in Sosúa. So the actual law says that NOBODY can sell liquor after 3pm. Not even resorts. That rule is clear. What happens is 1st the authorities come around and ask you to pay them to be allowed to serve alcohol. The problem is that there are like 5 different institutions that have the ability to close you for not following the presidential decree. If you are stupid enough to try to pay all 5 institutions off then the Journalist come around after that. If you don’t pay the Journalist then the literally make shit up and send it to the authorities. I have a strict policy against this because the rabbit hole goes too deep. We are just going to stop selling alcohol at 3pm and lose at 5pm until this Alcohol ban is lifted or the President makes a exception for Resorts.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 29, 2021, 07:20:30 PM
Adapt and adjust sirs  with the pain in the balls covide,mandates and till cases dwindle its the sign of the times,, ,, funny as back in the states every thing is wide open   go figure
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 07:26:21 PM
https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php (https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php)

State of emergency extended by 45 days from July 14


At the initiative of President Luis Abinader, the Senate has voted to extend the state of emergency for 45 days from July 14 due to the corona pandemic. Although there is now widespread vaccination with mainly the Chinese vaccines, the number of people infected with the Covid-19 virus remains alarmingly high. Especially in and around the capital Santo Domingo and Santiago many are infected.

Sosúa

The hospitals can hardly handle the number of corona patients. The doctors are also concerned about the mutations of the virus and have recommended that people with a third vaccination be given extra protection.

Less strict measures apply to the north coast, including Sosúa, Cabarete and Puerto Plata. The curfew starts there from 10 o'clock in the evening until 5 o'clock the next morning. On weekends from 9 o'clock in the evening. After the curfew goes into effect, everyone will still have the opportunity to get home by private or public transport.

According to mayor Wilfredo Olivences, the willingness among the population of Sosúa to be vaccinated is fortunately very high. From Friday 25 June, young people from the age of 12 can now also be vaccinated with the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 07:34:50 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/ciudad/gobierno-mantiene-el-mismo-horario-del-toque-de-queda-KH27204970 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/ciudad/gobierno-mantiene-el-mismo-horario-del-toque-de-queda-KH27204970)

Government maintains the same curfew hours
The measure was extended until Wednesday, July 7


SAME MARCHING ORDERS.  JUST CHANGE THE DATE.

The Government extended the current curfew in force in the Dominican Republic until Wednesday, July 7, in accordance with Decree 401-21.

The restriction on mobility will begin, every day, from 6:00 pm to 5:00 am, with free movement until 9:00 pm for people to reach their homes.

This schedule applies to the National District and the provinces of La Romana, Azua, Bahoruco, Barahona, Elías Piña, El Seibo, Hato Mayor, Hermanas Mirabal, Dajabón, Independencia and María Trinidad Sánchez.


Similarly, in Monsignor Nouel, Montecristi, Pedernales, Peravia, San Cristóbal, San Pedro de Macorís, San José de Ocoa, San Juan, Sánchez Ramírez, Monte Plata, Santiago Rodríguez, Santo Domingo and Valverde.

While in the Espaillat, Duarte, Samaná, La Altagracia, La Vega, Santiago and Puerto Plata demarcations, the curfew is maintained from Monday to Friday from 10:00 pm to 5:00 am, and on Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 pm to 5:00 am, with a grace of free movement until 12 midnight every day.

Sale of alcoholic beverages
In the same way, the prohibition of consuming alcoholic beverages from 3:00 pm in public and private establishments for public use is maintained, as well as the sale of these products if it is to be consumed in those places.

On the other hand, alcoholic beverages can be sold until the normal curfew time , depending on the demarcation in question, as long as it is sold to take-out ( take-out ) or at home ( delivery ) in its original sealed container.

Functioning of binational markets
In this sense, binational markets remain open, the operation of which will be regulated by the competent authorities.

Decree 401-21 maintains all the measures set forth in Decree 349-21, and its modifications, which were in force to date.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:50 PM
Quite a few chicas seem to be working directly from their hotels. They’re standing out front waiting on customers all the way up to the end of transit time. There was on absolute beauty standing outside the rooms on the way to Ahnvee on the right hand side of the street. If there was a chick in Sosua worth $100 ST she was it.
Was she wearing black tight stretch pants, white top wearing clear glasses?   Fair skinned?  And had a scooter?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on June 29, 2021, 08:03:44 PM
Quite a few chicas seem to be working directly from their hotels. They’re standing out front waiting on customers all the way up to the end of transit time. There was on absolute beauty standing outside the rooms on the way to Ahnvee on the right hand side of the street. If there was a chick in Sosua worth $100 ST she was it.
Was she wearing black tight stretch pants, white top wearing clear glasses?   Fair skinned?  And had a scooter?

The night I saw her she had on skin tight blue jeans. Don’t know about the scooter. She’s tall with light skin and shoulder length hair. A solid high eight. Looks to be early thirties.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 29, 2021, 09:29:31 PM
Quite a few chicas seem to be working directly from their hotels. They’re standing out front waiting on customers all the way up to the end of transit time. There was on absolute beauty standing outside the rooms on the way to Ahnvee on the right hand side of the street. If there was a chick in Sosua worth $100 ST she was it.
Was she wearing black tight stretch pants, white top wearing clear glasses?   Fair skinned?  And had a scooter?

The night I saw her she had on skin tight blue jeans. Don’t know about the scooter. She’s tall with light skin and shoulder length hair. A solid high eight. Looks to be early thirties.
Aw man damn.  I thought you were talking about some young cutie riding around on her pasola this afternoon.   You were talking another day/night altogether.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 30, 2021, 04:31:25 AM
It's Tuesday June 29th, 2021.

What's going on in Sosua?   Have the authorities finally put the nail in the coffin?   Yesterday, a buddy of mine claimed he hadnt seen but 6 chicas around town.  The strip and the usual places where chicas loiter or patrol,  he said there were none to be found.  I was in for 2 days straight, except for a few trips.   So I hadnt really been out long enough to take notice.   

My understanding the police have been out in full force snatching up girls left and right, and working hard to keep them off the street.  Not just in the vincinity of the strip, but all over town.   The beach is usually the safest place for chicas until the beach begins to shut down. 

After returning from PP,  I proceeded to drive around town,  and I swear many of the chicas I would see out and about have disappeared.   No chicks hanging in or around Bar Central,  no customers or chicas at the German restaurant next door.   I thought it was odd not seeing any day time customers at least having a few drinks.   But then after 3pm,  consuming alcohol is over.   So I guess guys say whats the point of hanging out there if you cant drink?

No chicks around Rumba/Kings.   None on any of the corners.   Mid block where New Garden is,  no chicas?   Usually a few are outside trying to find work.   How about Bailee's?   Well could not see much inside when passing by, but I noted that I didnt see many taxis or motos out hanging around like you would usually see.   

After passing Super Super and the banks,  girls that stay in the rooms nearby,  you would usually see a few out and about.  Move further just before Europa, and that Dominican food spot, and the little bars next to it,  no raggedy chicas hanging around.  Something must have happened in the last 48 hrs, that I missed by being house bound?   On the corner by Europa, no raggedy chicks hanging on the corner,  or sitting up at the Europas bar.   

Ok I make it down to Ahnvee, and the street looks deserted.  Meaning, the usual mass of taxis are gone.  Only maybe two or three taxis.   I guess Bourbon Street can give us the 411 or whats going on inside of his complex?   Because from the outside ,  it's not obvious whether or not one can go in just to have a meal,  unless you are a hotel guest.   

If indeed there has been a recent crackdown on chica movement and round up of chicas,  and this is expected to be the new norm,  this is going to be a major game changer for guys with upcoming plans to be here.     Of course I need to continue to monitor whats going on,  to make sure the reason Im not seeing many chicas out in the street, isnt because it is hot as hell outside.   

And Im hoping that after it cools down,  then there will be the usual amount of chicas out on patrol looking for work.    Chicas using motos and taxis to get around.   What would be helpful , is more boots on the ground intel from other cats in town.
Reminds me of the curfews mid january ,Same thing a lot of cops on patrol   covide enforcment,,Yes the 3 pm booze ban realy puts a damper on chicas and mongers,, seems when i was there the mid week  wed thurs and friday late day was action time,, dont forget its the slow season, now , You can Always hit Black beards or the oais,Or grab a good trusted repeat chica for a few days,,Till covide wanes and most get vacinated  its going to take time before things return to normal
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 30, 2021, 08:02:25 AM
Flip reports that the booze ban is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on June 30, 2021, 08:55:07 AM
Flip reports that the booze ban is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w)

Good info in a 4 minute video!

Pleased about the booze ban dropped, would love an extra hour or two outside though. Hopefully when this state of emergency ends... OR SOONER!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 30, 2021, 09:26:40 AM
Flip reports that the booze ban is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w)
When it comes to giving updates like this, it would be nice to see links posted or an explanation on where the information came from.  I mean what does it take to say the source of the information? :  "It was reported in blah blah blah that the alcohol ban is over".     This way people can sort out hearsay, contradictions and facts. 

There is a reason why 95% of the time when I find updates,  I dont just post the information,  I provide the source where I got the information from.  So people can fact check it against other sources giving information.   What I posted yesterday from Diario Libre directly contradicts what FF is saying in the video.   

Lawd knows I want the alcohol ban gone forever,  but it would be helpful to see a reliable source or article stating that fact.   Otherwise Im wondering how many other contradictory reports are out there?     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 30, 2021, 09:43:39 AM
Yes good point. However most folks can tap on official sources  for official  info.  I'll only post reliable info  that was from a good source.  Dont have time to copy and paste from a shitty android phone. Most mongers keen on sosua current events already can look up sources.  You have the following. Sosua news DR one news  Flip flops  offical DR goverment news outlets it's not rocket science carry on sirs may the toto be wet !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 30, 2021, 09:54:44 AM
Tug, what's your favorite bar to drink and chill with a chica?? I'm gonna put some money on your tab!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 30, 2021, 09:57:00 AM
Yes good point. However most folks can tap on official sources  for official  info.  I'll only post reliable info  that was from a good source.  Dont have time to copy and paste from a shitty android phone. Most mongers keen on sosua current events already can look up sources.  You have the following. Sosua news DR one news  Flip flops  offical DR goverment news outlets it's not rocket science carry on sirs may the toto be wet !
Copying and pasting if one has the means.   But it's not necessary, especially if one is using a cell phone.   Anyone can just type where they got the information.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 30, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/06/29/677150/el-toque-de-queda-y-restricciones-seguiran-una-semana-dispone-luis-abinader (https://listindiario.com/la-republica/2021/06/29/677150/el-toque-de-queda-y-restricciones-seguiran-una-semana-dispone-luis-abinader)

Translated from Spanish. 

The Republic Tuesday, June 29, 2021

The curfew and restrictions will continue for a week, says Luis Abinader


Santo Domingo, RD.

The curfew will continue in the country for one more week, until Wednesday, July 7, as ordered tonight by President Luis Abinader.

The decision is contained in decree 401-21, issued by the Executive Power tonight.

The provisions establish that the binational markets remain open and it was also established that the sale of alcohol is until the curfew time.

My take on the above statement.  Poorly written for one.   The sale of alcohol is until the curfew time, but what about the consumption of alcohol at bars and restaurants?     A short while ago, the restriction of buying alcohol was lifted for alcohol sales past 3pm.  It was changed to sales of alcohol up until the curfew time in your area.   

But the stipulation was, that the container had to be unopened and sealed.  For take out or home delivery.   This applies to grocery stores, supermarkets and liquor stores  This doesnt mean drinks at a bar or restaurant can be poured in bottles or cups for take out.   So if anyone reading, thinks "sale of alcohol until curfew time" means venues are free to sell you drinks at a bar or restaurant up until curfew, I dont believe that was how it was to be interpreted.  Like I said, that was poorly written, and translated from Spanish.  So it might have lost something in the translation?  If the ban on consumption of alcohol past 3pm was lifted, that should have been clearly said,  so there is no misinterpretation. 


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"The curfew in the most restricted demarcations is maintained every day from 6:00 pm to 5:00 am, with a grace of free movement until 9:00 pm, with the sole purpose that people can go to their respective residences. This schedule applies to the National District and the provinces of Azua, Bahoruco, Barahona, Dajabón, Elías Piña, El Seibo, Hato Mayor and Hermanas Mirabal, Independencia, La Romana, María Trinidad Sánchez, Monsignor Nouel, Monte Cristi, Monte Plata, Pedernales, Peravia, San Cristóbal, San José de Ocoa, San Juan, San Pedro de Macorís, Sánchez Ramírez, Santiago Rodríguez, Santo Domingo and Valverde.

In the seven remaining provinces, that is, Duarte, Espaillat, La Altagracia, La Vega, Samaná, Santiago and Puerto Plata, the curfew is maintained from Monday to Friday from 10:00 pm to 5:00 am, and Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 pm to 5:00 am, with a grace of free movement until 12 midnight every day, with the sole purpose that people can go to their respective residences, "he says. the decree issued tonight by the President of the Republic.

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This is the 29th curfew requested by the government since the announcement of the covid-19 pandemic in the country.

In 2020 alone, the DaniloMedina Luis Abinader governments established 15 curfews.

This year, the remaining ones have been requested, the last three having a validity of one week.

Given the increase in infections, the Government of Luis Abinader ordered through Decree 349-21, it ordered that 25 provinces have a curfew from 6:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning, and on Saturdays and Sundays from 3:00 in the afternoon until 5:00 in the morning.

The remaining provinces would have a schedule from 10:00 at night to 5:00 in the morning, from Monday to Friday. Saturdays and Sundays from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

Similarly, the State arranged special vaccination days in various provinces that have continued to date and will continue until 70 percent of the population is inoculated.

In addition, the consumption of alcoholic beverages was prohibited from 3:00 in the afternoon in public and private establishments for public use, as well as the sale of these products if it is for consumption in those places.

Curfew number 26 was enacted on June 8 and would enter into force on June 9, maintaining the same schedule that had been established.

On June 16 decree 378-21 established that until Wednesday June 23, the curfew will be every day, from 6:00 in the afternoon to 5:00 in the morning with a grace of three hours of free transit in 24 provinces and the National District.

On June 22, President Luis Abinader ordered the extension of the curfew with this same schedule.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on June 30, 2021, 10:30:46 AM
Everything in the DR confuses the heck out of me. I just roll with it!!
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on June 30, 2021, 05:23:00 PM
Everything in the DR confuses the heck out of me. I just roll with it!!
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Its in response to the citizens behavior(partying and drinking and driving at night likely) I can’t imagine it’s due to the tourist because the DR has been letting in untested tourist since June/July 2020. I’d imagine that they don’t care about a drop off of tourist coming due to curfew because they still come weekly
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on July 01, 2021, 08:31:25 AM
I’ve been here since Saturday. I think Ahnvee did not open this weekend. I can confirm they weren’t open last night. Pedro was pretty busy last night, but it’s like a ghost town this afternoon. I’m at the beach now. There’s a decent contingent of chicks here. Surprisingly there is both an absence of fat chicks and mongers.

So it's nice chicks and no whales hanging out now huh? It's NOT amazing when dudes make the trip how good things are and fine bitches everywhere, but when dudes stuck home in the basement in NY, NJ, Cali, Boston or wherever with a miserable fat angry wife on they ass...... all they say is the town is full of cows, rats and dusty hoes.

Does all the great scenery just show up when y'all there or is it like that year round?? I say it's always like that. I know I'm not the only one who takes notice of what dudes post and when. Your last trip you said how it was a bunch of 7's, 8s and 9's around and then you promptly went home and trashed the place for 6 months. Every video was full of whales and ya friends said the town was full of rats now all of a sudden it's GREAT AGAIN. I'm sure the resident board watcher (Papi) and a few others notice also.

It's 3 types of dudes that trash the town over and over, dudes who haven't made the trip in years because they broke or can't get away from that fat heffa in the house, dudes who don't want other dudes from the states going down to f--k "their" bitches and the dudeson here who like the 85'pound Thai/Asian lady boys.

Newbies and vets who haven't been in years....always remember some on here have an agenda. Take the trip, it's plenty of bad bitches thru out the town and the MAJORITY are no where near FAT and on the whole are in better shape than the bitches in your city.....YEAR ROUND!

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on July 01, 2021, 08:49:49 AM
I’ve been here since Saturday. I think Ahnvee did not open this weekend. I can confirm they weren’t open last night. Pedro was pretty busy last night, but it’s like a ghost town this afternoon. I’m at the beach now. There’s a decent contingent of chicks here. Surprisingly there is both an absence of fat chicks and mongers.

So it's nice chicks and no whales hanging out now huh? It's NOT amazing when dudes make the trip how good things are and fine bitches everywhere, but when dudes stuck home in the basement in NY, NJ, Cali, Boston or wherever with a miserable fat angry wife on they ass...... all they say is the town is full of cows, rats and dusty hoes.

Does all the great scenery just show up when y'all there or is it like that year round?? I say it's always like that. I know I'm not the only one who takes notice of what dudes post and when. Your last trip you said how it was a bunch of 7's, 8s and 9's around and then you promptly went home and trashed the place for 6 months. Every video was full of whales and ya friends said the town was full of rats now all of a sudden it's GREAT AGAIN. I'm sure the resident board watcher (Papi) and a few others notice also.

It's 3 types of dudes that trash the town over and over, dudes who haven't made the trip in years because they broke or can't get away from that fat heffa in the house, dudes who don't want other dudes from the states going down to f--k "their" bitches and the dudeson here who like the 85'pound Thai/Asian lady boys.

Newbies and vets who haven't been in years....always remember some on here have an agenda. Take the trip, it's plenty of bad bitches thru out the town and the MAJORITY are no where near FAT and on the whole are in better shape than the bitches in your city.....YEAR ROUND!

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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hunter_1 on July 01, 2021, 02:31:10 PM
Flip reports that the booze ban is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w)

Good info in a 4 minute video!

Pleased about the booze ban dropped, would love an extra hour or two outside though. Hopefully when this state of emergency ends... OR SOONER!

The booze ban dropped is false I am pretty sure.   Maybe someone on ground can confirm...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 01, 2021, 02:42:12 PM
Flip reports that the booze ban is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w)

Good info in a 4 minute video!

Pleased about the booze ban dropped, would love an extra hour or two outside though. Hopefully when this state of emergency ends... OR SOONER!

The booze ban dropped is false I am pretty sure.   Maybe someone on ground can confirm...
You think the ban's not over?  Flip's groundzero, selling & serving booze. Shouldn't he know? In that regard, he is the tip of the spear.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 01, 2021, 04:34:21 PM
I’ve been here since Saturday. I think Ahnvee did not open this weekend. I can confirm they weren’t open last night. Pedro was pretty busy last night, but it’s like a ghost town this afternoon. I’m at the beach now. There’s a decent contingent of chicks here. Surprisingly there is both an absence of fat chicks and mongers.

So it's nice chicks and no whales hanging out now huh? It's NOT amazing when dudes make the trip how good things are and fine bitches everywhere, but when dudes stuck home in the basement in NY, NJ, Cali, Boston or wherever with a miserable fat angry wife on they ass...... all they say is the town is full of cows, rats and dusty hoes.

Does all the great scenery just show up when y'all there or is it like that year round?? I say it's always like that. I know I'm not the only one who takes notice of what dudes post and when. Your last trip you said how it was a bunch of 7's, 8s and 9's around and then you promptly went home and trashed the place for 6 months. Every video was full of whales and ya friends said the town was full of rats now all of a sudden it's GREAT AGAIN. I'm sure the resident board watcher (Papi) and a few others notice also.

It's 3 types of dudes that trash the town over and over, dudes who haven't made the trip in years because they broke or can't get away from that fat heffa in the house, dudes who don't want other dudes from the states going down to f--k "their" bitches and the dudeson here who like the 85'pound Thai/Asian lady boys.

Newbies and vets who haven't been in years....always remember some on here have an agenda. Take the trip, it's plenty of bad bitches thru out the town and the MAJORITY are no where near FAT and on the whole are in better shape than the bitches in your city.....YEAR ROUND!

Actually I described the beach scene as having a decent contingent of chicks there. At least in my vocabulary decent doesn’t rise much higher than so so. As to previously claiming there were 7-9 here on a prior trip I think you got the wrong guy. I’m one who believes a 9 in Sosua is a rare event. I’ve not seen one here in at least a year. Right now 7-8 are in short supply. And yes there are a lot of overweight chicks here now. If a had to give the place a quality grade I’d go with a C-. Hopefully things will pick up this weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Stonewall on July 01, 2021, 04:55:18 PM


So it's nice chicks and no whales hanging out now huh? It's NOT amazing when dudes make the trip how good things are and fine bitches everywhere, but when dudes stuck home in the basement in NY, NJ, Cali, Boston or wherever with a miserable fat angry wife on they ass...... all they say is the town is full of cows, rats and dusty hoes.

Does all the great scenery just show up when y'all there or is it like that year round?? I say it's always like that. I know I'm not the only one who takes notice of what dudes post and when. Your last trip you said how it was a bunch of 7's, 8s and 9's around and then you promptly went home and trashed the place for 6 months. Every video was full of whales and ya friends said the town was full of rats now all of a sudden it's GREAT AGAIN. I'm sure the resident board watcher (Papi) and a few others notice also.

It's 3 types of dudes that trash the town over and over, dudes who haven't made the trip in years because they broke or can't get away from that fat heffa in the house, dudes who don't want other dudes from the states going down to f--k "their" bitches and the dudeson here who like the 85'pound Thai/Asian lady boys.

Newbies and vets who haven't been in years....always remember some on here have an agenda. Take the trip, it's plenty of bad bitches thru out the town and the MAJORITY are no where near FAT and on the whole are in better shape than the bitches in your city.....YEAR ROUND!

You guys really need to stop lie.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 01, 2021, 07:49:19 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 02, 2021, 02:30:31 AM
Flip reports that the booze ban is over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoABNQNHU_w)

Good info in a 4 minute video!

Pleased about the booze ban dropped, would love an extra hour or two outside though. Hopefully when this state of emergency ends... OR SOONER!

The booze ban dropped is false I am pretty sure.   Maybe someone on ground can confirm...
You think the ban's not over?  Flip's groundzero, selling & serving booze. Shouldn't he know? In that regard, he is the tip of the spear.
The official ban of alcohol serving and consumption past 3pm in bars and restaurants is not over.  The answer is in the question. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 02, 2021, 02:36:45 AM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   
Good info on the chicas.  You were just at Bailee's?   So whats the report or what did you observe regarding them serving alcohol, and consumption past 3pm, at Bailee's?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: danceelite0 on July 02, 2021, 07:19:40 AM
The alcohol ban is extended until the 7 of July
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: alexis on July 02, 2021, 07:38:59 AM
The alcohol ban is extended until the 7 of July

Seems like Flipper thinks and says something different about it on his youtube channel… I am with you, I read the same but don’t have boots on the ground atm.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on July 02, 2021, 08:08:20 AM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   




Sooooooooo, what are they supposed to be working at?  They make enough in tips from thirsty men that they don't have to suck dick;............so again where are they supposed to be working? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 02, 2021, 09:34:03 AM
The alcohol ban is extended until the 7 of July

Seems like Flipper thinks and says something different about it on his youtube channel… I am with you, I read the same but don’t have boots on the ground atm.
I guess if you want something done, you have to go out and do it yourself.   I'll try to check around town past 3pm and see whats going on.  What I suspect,  some places will be adhering to the alcohol ban, and not serving.   While other places may be serving alcohol on the sly tip.   Using plastic or styrofoam cups.   

In other words, doing what they were doing when the alcohol ban 1st started.   But when the heavy brass came on the scene on the beach a couple of weeks ago,  they were locking some of the owners up.   Thats when you saw the actual alcohol ban being taken seriously.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 02, 2021, 09:48:39 AM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   
Good info on the chicas.  You were just at Bailee's?   So whats the report or what did you observe regarding them serving alcohol, and consumption past 3pm, at Bailee's?   

The official word is that alcohol sales are banned after 3 pm. Ahnvee did not open last night. Why they had 4 bartenders at Bailees at 8 pm I have no idea. The bar was full and no one appeared to be drinking alcohol.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 02, 2021, 09:56:45 AM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   



Sooooooooo, what are they supposed to be working at?  They make enough in tips from thirsty men that they don't have to suck dick;............so again where are they supposed to be working?

Chicks that fine don’t usually last long in Sosua. They get snatched off the market by either an expat or a tourist and it happens quickly. I’ve been coming to Sosua a long time and those two women are easily the finest pair I’ve ever seen working a bar here. Those two chicks are spectacular.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hoosier on July 02, 2021, 10:59:14 AM
I'm in Sosua as I type and they are still serving alcohol in cups. No bottles.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: BlackDynamite82 on July 02, 2021, 11:59:30 AM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

Nice, going down on the 15th and staying at Sosua Inn. Will be nice to be able to go right downstairs and pull some decent talent at Bailee's, might need to have some liquor already set up in my room after hearing all this alcohol ban crap.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 02, 2021, 12:23:35 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

Nice, going down on the 15th and staying at Sosua Inn. Will be nice to be able to go right downstairs and pull some decent talent at Bailee's, might need to have some liquor already set up in my room after hearing all this alcohol ban crap.

Nice chicas in Bailees for sure...but stick to your guns...Your money, your price!  You can easily walk two blocks to the beach and get equally beautiful chicas for half of what they quote at Bailees!

You can pay to appreciate her...Or pay her to appreciate you!!
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Stonewall on July 02, 2021, 01:37:18 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

One of them is lightskinned?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 02, 2021, 01:50:30 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

Nice, going down on the 15th and staying at Sosua Inn. Will be nice to be able to go right downstairs and pull some decent talent at Bailee's, might need to have some liquor already set up in my room after hearing all this alcohol ban crap.

Nice chicas in Bailees for sure...but stick to your guns...Your money, your price!  You can easily walk two blocks to the beach and get equally beautiful chicas for half of what they quote at Bailees!

You can pay to appreciate her...Or pay her to appreciate you!!
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 Now that there is a perfect chica for that freaky chair at sosua inn,, Show hands if you had your chica doing freaky shit on that chair !!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Brickholder on July 02, 2021, 01:53:23 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

One of them is lightskinned?

I know exactly who he is talking about. There is a gorgeous light skin girl behind the bar during the afternoon shift. I can’t recall her name but the afternoon shift has quite a few lookers.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on July 02, 2021, 03:32:52 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

One of them is lightskinned?

I know exactly who he is talking about. There is a gorgeous light skin girl behind the bar during the afternoon shift. I can’t recall her name but the afternoon shift has quite a few lookers.

Yeah I also think I know who he is talking about. Don’t remember her name but if I think the bartender that’s who he’s talking about, she has a older Italian boyfriend who often hangs out at New Garden hotel as he’s good friends the the owner whose name I can’t remember.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Brickholder on July 02, 2021, 04:18:08 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.
   

One of them is lightskinned?

I know exactly who he is talking about. There is a gorgeous light skin girl behind the bar during the afternoon shift. I can’t recall her name but the afternoon shift has quite a few lookers.

Yeah I also think I know who he is talking about. Don’t remember her name but if I think the bartender that’s who he’s talking about, she has a older Italian boyfriend who often hangs out at New Garden hotel as he’s good friends the the owner whose name I can’t remember.

Yeah. This guy sitting next me tried to holler. His approach was terrible so I wasnt sure if she was not interested or really married but she does wear a ring. The other ones, no ring. Bailees has like 4 nice looking bartenders that rate
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on July 02, 2021, 04:58:06 PM
FYI A chica wearing a ring means nothing, it's a game they play. YOU MAY PAY MORE FOR A CHICA THAT IS TAKEN, LOL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Brickholder on July 02, 2021, 05:03:49 PM
FYI A chica wearing a ring means nothing, it's a game they play. YOU MAY PAY MORE FOR A CHICA THAT IS TAKEN, LOL

I realize that. His approach was just wack. I was using the ring to further identify who I am talking about since I can’t recall her name at the moment.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on July 02, 2021, 05:22:52 PM
Just left Bailee’s. Lots of 7-8s on the premises. The hottest chicks in there though are two of the bartenders. Those ladies are easily the two best looking chicks in Sosua. I’m looking at them thinking what the hell are you doing working in here.

Sooooooooo, what are they supposed to be working at?  They make enough in tips from thirsty men that they don't have to suck dick;............so again where are they supposed to be working?

Chicks that fine don’t usually last long in Sosua. They get snatched off the market by either an expat or a tourist and it happens quickly. I’ve been coming to Sosua a long time and those two women are easily the finest pair I’ve ever seen working a bar here. Those two chicks are spectacular.





That's the bottom line I was trying to get you to.  They don't last and that's why they are there.  Baily's has a rep for getting fine ass bartenders but their biggest rep is "Getting fine ass bartenders and not being able to keep those fine ass bartenders."...... because SIMPs keep marrying them.  Get paid without sucking & f--king every swinging dick in town and get a ring in less than a year.  Actually more like 6 months!!!  I shit you not!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 03, 2021, 08:11:36 PM
Saturday July 3rd, 2021.   

So the other day I reported how deserted Sosua appeared to be on the strip and around town.   Today chicks were walking around like normal on the strip.   The chicas that I saw out and about didnt appear to be overly concerned about being harrassed or picked up.   The only two PN officers were a couple of females on foot,  initially standing in front of Merengue Bar, and occasionally walking back and forth between Merengue and the corner of Dr Rosen.   

Bailee's appeared to be full of patrons,  with some spillage of guys and chicas nearby.   Whenever guys arrived, hustlers nearby sprung into action trying to latch onto them.  Chicas nearby trying to get work before guys committed to going inside of Bailee's.   

Although I didnt go to the beach today, if it was anything like yesterday,  plenty of chicas were there on patrol looking for work.  As for alcohol consumption,  booze was served and sold in plastic or styrofoam cups just about everywhere.   I passed by Plan B, and saw both cups and an actual beer bottle on the counter.   I suspect cheers was serving bottles too.   However, all of this because the police had instructions to chill.    Thats unoffical.   Officially the alcohol ban is still in effect.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 03, 2021, 08:37:29 PM
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/gobierno-extiende-estado-de-emergencia-modifica-toque-de-queda-IP27288374 (https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/gobierno-extiende-estado-de-emergencia-modifica-toque-de-queda-IP27288374)


Government extends state of emergency; modify curfew
Consider lifting curfew in places with 70% of the population with a second dose of COVID-19 vaccine.

The Dominican Government announced this Saturday the extension of the state of emergency for 45 days and the modification of the current curfew, while informing that it is considered lifting the same in the demarcations where 70% of the population has the second dose of the vaccine against the coronavirus, "without prejudice to the maintenance or establishment of other measures that the competent authorities deem necessary."

The announcement is contemplated in decree 419-21 issued by President Luis Abinader, which provides for the modification of the curfew schedule at the national level.

As of this Wednesday, July 7, the curfew is established in the national territory from Monday to Friday from 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. Saturdays and Sundays from 7:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.


There will be free transit in the national territory from Monday to Friday until midnight (12:00 am) and on Saturdays and Sundays until 9:00 pm, that is, 2 additional hours every day.

For its part, the same exceptions are maintained for people and vehicles authorized to circulate during curfew hours, details a statement from the Presidency of the Republic.


Regulation of public and private places

Massive activities and events that involve the agglomeration of people, regardless of the place in question, remain prohibited in the national territory. People may use open spaces in the open air, such as parks and boardwalks, for activities that do not involve crowds and in compliance with current sanitary protocols.

Public and private establishments for public use, regardless of the type of activity they sponsor, may only receive people up to 50% of the total capacity of their facilities and in compliance with the health protocols issued by the corresponding authorities.

In addition to the above, the places of consumption of food and beverages may not receive more than 6 people per table and the activities of the different churches and other religious denominations may only be held 3 times a week.

Likewise, the mandatory use of masks in public and private places for public use is confirmed, as well as the other health measures and protocols adopted by the corresponding authorities.

Sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages

The consumption of alcoholic beverages in public and private places of public use is prohibited in the national territory every day from 6:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

From 6:00 pm until the curfew starting time, commercial establishments may only sell alcoholic beverages if they are to take away or at home and in their original sealed container.

Validity, review and lifting of the measures

All these measures will be in force until the corresponding authorities review them, always within the period authorized for the state of emergency.

The foregoing, without prejudice to the maintenance or establishment of other measures that the competent authorities deem necessary.




Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 05, 2021, 06:29:20 AM
I wasnt fully aware of this,  but a buddy of mine who hasnt been to Sosua since before the pandemic,  informed me that he was going to come down.   He said just about everything in the states/city is wide open.   So he asks, how's things down there?   Here's the kicker.   He wants to come down, but he claims just about every hotel he reached out to, said they were BOOKED UP!

I was in shock.  You mean to tell me, that Sosua is becoming so popular that many of the hotels in the area are filling up, leading to limited availability?    It does seem that I'm seeing more and more guys showing up.   Many in large groups.   Heavy presence on the beach, around Bailee's, walking freely around town.   If I didnt know any better,  I could almost say,  the guys may be outnumbering the amount of chicas here to provide services.

And also bear in mind,  many of the chicas in Sosua are the same chicas we see every freaking day.   Just dressed differently.  If indeed the potential client base is in high numbers,  the chicas might very well be in command of the supply and demand curve.  More sausage than buns.    Oh yeah another thing.   A lot of these guys are brand new to Sosua.  Have no Spanish skills.  Dont know whats going on.    Wherever these guys are,  the local hustlers ( young/old ) are right there following them around, and imposing their employment onto these guys.     

Whats the number one question these guys are asking these hoes?  You guessed it.   HOW MUCH BABY?  What you think she's going say?   "Oh I'm offering bargains today"   No, she is going to shoot for something above what it's worth,  hoping to avoid missing a big pay day.    Too many guys have just not learned jack before coming here.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Stonewall on July 05, 2021, 07:01:02 AM
Whats the number one question these guys are asking these hoes?  You guessed it.   HOW MUCH BABY?  What you think she's going say?   "Oh I'm offering bargains today" No, she is going to shoot for something above what it's worth,  hoping to avoid missing a big pay day.    Too many guys have just not learned jack before coming here.   

Chicas can smell these new blood in town so it doesn't matter if you ask "HOW MUCH BABY", if her intentions is to hike her price she will do that regardless.
Even "vets" I see overpaying.

When I was down there 3 weeks ago I asked 2 chicas how much and they told me a price I wasn't willing to pay.
They told me my price was too cheap and told me no way.
Two hours later they were blowing up my phone saying let's go.



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 05, 2021, 07:48:15 AM
Whats the number one question these guys are asking these hoes?  You guessed it.   HOW MUCH BABY?  What you think she's going say?   "Oh I'm offering bargains today" No, she is going to shoot for something above what it's worth,  hoping to avoid missing a big pay day.    Too many guys have just not learned jack before coming here.   

Chicas can smell these new blood in town so it doesn't matter if you ask "HOW MUCH BABY", if her intentions is to hike her price she will do that regardless.
Even "vets" I see overpaying.

When I was down there 3 weeks ago I asked 2 chicas how much and they told me a price I wasn't willing to pay.
They told me my price was too cheap and told me no way.
Two hours later they were blowing up my phone saying let's go.
Exactly, many can smell the new blood.  But chicks often miscalculate and underestimate guys.    Some chicks assume a guy is new, or doesnt know how the scene works.  That can happen , because the chicks themselves are not familiar with the total Sosua scene.   And their behavior and movements are like a parrot.  Just following what they have been instructed to do and say.     

There is no one size fits all in chica behavior or price quoting.  There are instances when even a NEW guy might be surprised in his results, simply by not asking a chick how much, and instead telling the chick how much he'll pay.   My contention is, many, if not most guys do not get around to telling a chick how much they'll pay, it seems as if they feel more comfortable asking a chick how much she wants.    Resulting in more instances of inflated quotes from chicas.   

Because of that propensity, enough guys never get to test the theory, of what may happen when you put more effort in controlling the negotiations rather than passively asking "how much baby?" 

What happened in your case is proof,  that even though you asked,  the end result was that the original price quoted ( or what she expected ) was not their bottom line.    In your case, her intentions of hiking the price didnt matter in the long run.  Intentions can be modified.   I'm saying, that can happen whether a guy asks or doesnt ask a chick her price.   

I have heard of instances where the same chick quoted a high price to one guy who asked,  but accepted a reasonable lower offer from another guy that did not ask her the price.    It probably works in reverse as well.    In essence her intentions to hike the price was approach dependent.         And thats the point Im trying to make.   How one approaches can ( not will ) make a difference.   Depends on how both parties evaluates the negotiations and each other.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on July 05, 2021, 08:15:05 AM
I wasnt fully aware of this,  but a buddy of mine who hasnt been to Sosua since before the pandemic,  informed me that he was going to come down.   He said just about everything in the states/city is wide open.   So he asks, how's things down there?   Here's the kicker.   He wants to come down, but he claims just about every hotel he reached out to, said they were BOOKED UP!

I was in shock.  You mean to tell me, that Sosua is becoming so popular that many of the hotels in the area are filling up, leading to limited availability?    It does seem that I'm seeing more and more guys showing up.   Many in large groups.   Heavy presence on the beach, around Bailee's, walking freely around town.   If I didnt know any better,  I could almost say,  the guys may be outnumbering the amount of chicas here to provide services.

And also bear in mind,  many of the chicas in Sosua are the same chicas we see every freaking day.   Just dressed differently.  If indeed the potential client base is in high numbers,  the chicas might very well be in command of the supply and demand curve.  More sausage than buns.    Oh yeah another thing.   A lot of these guys are brand new to Sosua.  Have no Spanish skills.  Dont know whats going on.    Wherever these guys are,  the local hustlers ( young/old ) are right there following them around, and imposing their employment onto these guys.     

Whats the number one question these guys are asking these hoes?  You guessed it.   HOW MUCH BABY?  What you think she's going say?   "Oh I'm offering bargains today"   No, she is going to shoot for something above what it's worth,  hoping to avoid missing a big pay day.    Too many guys have just not learned jack before coming here.   

Murano,

I think a lot of those dudes you’re seeing might just be civilians (non-mongers). Might be. With American Airlines (and probably others) cancelling/reducing flights due to understaffing, even with hotels booked out on the ground, a good percentage of travelers can’t even make it to the island.

Chicas are also telling me that business is slow, so if the dudes you’re seeing are indeed mongers, they’re not engaging/spending.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on July 05, 2021, 10:21:12 AM
@Poon ... chicas will always tell you buisness is slow .... I tought you would have figured that out by now  ::)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on July 05, 2021, 10:25:36 AM
@Poon ... chicas will always tell you buisness is slow .... I tought you would have figured that out by now  ::)

Lol. I hear you, but these are trusted chicas I’ve known for a while that keep up with me. They always keep it 💯, so if they’re telling me it’s slow, they’re not lying.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 05, 2021, 10:35:47 AM
I wasnt fully aware of this,  but a buddy of mine who hasnt been to Sosua since before the pandemic,  informed me that he was going to come down.   He said just about everything in the states/city is wide open.   So he asks, how's things down there?   Here's the kicker.   He wants to come down, but he claims just about every hotel he reached out to, said they were BOOKED UP!

I was in shock.  You mean to tell me, that Sosua is becoming so popular that many of the hotels in the area are filling up, leading to limited availability?    It does seem that I'm seeing more and more guys showing up.   Many in large groups.   Heavy presence on the beach, around Bailee's, walking freely around town.   If I didnt know any better,  I could almost say,  the guys may be outnumbering the amount of chicas here to provide services.

And also bear in mind,  many of the chicas in Sosua are the same chicas we see every freaking day.   Just dressed differently.  If indeed the potential client base is in high numbers,  the chicas might very well be in command of the supply and demand curve.  More sausage than buns.    Oh yeah another thing.   A lot of these guys are brand new to Sosua.  Have no Spanish skills.  Dont know whats going on.    Wherever these guys are,  the local hustlers ( young/old ) are right there following them around, and imposing their employment onto these guys.     

Whats the number one question these guys are asking these hoes?  You guessed it.   HOW MUCH BABY?  What you think she's going say?   "Oh I'm offering bargains today"   No, she is going to shoot for something above what it's worth,  hoping to avoid missing a big pay day.    Too many guys have just not learned jack before coming here.   

Murano,

I think a lot of those dudes you’re seeing might just be civilians (non-mongers). Might be. With American Airlines (and probably others) cancelling/reducing flights due to understaffing, even with hotels booked out on the ground, a good percentage of travelers can’t even make it to the island.

Chicas are also telling me that business is slow, so if the dudes you’re seeing are indeed mongers, they’re not engaging/spending.
I think a lot of those dudes you’re seeing might just be civilians (non-mongers). Might be.

I doubt them being civilians.  Everything I'm seeing and sensing is that they are here to monger.     


With American Airlines (and probably others) cancelling/reducing flights due to understaffing, even with hotels booked out on the ground, a good percentage of travelers can’t even make it to the island.


Perhaps a truism to whom and where it applies.  Apparently that hasnt stopped the volume of dudes that were able to get here.   Ive been watching a steady volume of guys coming and going since July last year.    Every month the amount of guys coming gets bigger and bigger.     

Chicas are also telling me that business is slow, so if the dudes you’re seeing are indeed mongers, they’re not engaging/spending.

As a vet, and as an individual with boots on the ground,  I put zero stock in hearsay from chicas.  And zero stock in guys telling me what his chica friends said about business for them.     Especially when they have an incentive to lie.  Including the fact that there is no universal accounting on what business being slow means as far as p4p.     As long as them chicks are eating by any means necessary,  all are showing the signs that their business has been prosperous thus far.   

Most are all sporting new clothes/outfits, new hair, tats, phones, accessories.   They eat everyday.    Im seeing them everyday.  If you are not here, you are not seeing them everyday.   I dont even know why any guy back in the states would even entertain hearsay from 5 to 10 chicks he knows telling him that business is slow.     There may be 200 to 400 chicks coming to Sosua, and were going to use a couple of chicks to assume business is slow in Sosua?     

Is business slow for the checkout girl or the stock clerk at The Playero supermercado?   They dont earn nearly as much as a p4p chick within a months time.   Plus they dont have to buy as much stuff that p4p chicks buy in order to attract clients.    For some reason,  I dont think any of those folks would claim business is slow.     What is the definition of business being slow for a p4p chick?     My definition of business being slow for p4p chicks,  and theirs I'll bet doesnt match.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 05, 2021, 10:55:10 AM
Just wanna add something here :

For every WU payment a chica gets,  every drink or meal a chica receives without paying.  Every motoconcho or taxi ride a chica gets some guy to pay for.   All of that money saved has the potential for paying a chicks rent where she lives in a months time frame.   

In other words,  chicas earn passive income as well as direct income.  So in essence their hustle and earning potential is always active.   It's not always about how much money they earn directly from a session, but also how much money they save by getting somebody else to cover their expenses.   Thats why enough chicas cry broke, and claim they need money to pay rent.   After that message goes out to several suckers.  That rent may get paid 5 to 10 times over.   Why?   Because some cats believed the chick when they said business was slow.   

In Sosua a lot of hustlers are begging every day.  A few pesos from dozens of gifters adds up to a very lucrative hustle in a months time.   Now if a small hustler is doing well with chump change,  what makes anybody think chicks have it bad getting 1500 to $150 for a single session.   And then multiply that over a months time.   Scoring clients everyday isnt necessary for some chicas   Just making ones quota for the month is all thats needed.    Incidently, because there is no need to score clients every day or all day,  that is one reason IMO why some chicks are not desperate.  And why some may be resistant in budging from their price expectations.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 05, 2021, 11:44:46 AM
How many mongers are needed for business to not be slow. And what price point is needed for her to maintain good business or even average business.  Chicas as a standard outnumber mongers and if 10 to 1 increases to 30 to 1 does that make business intolerable for a chica?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Rafael on July 05, 2021, 11:47:16 AM
This is a good rational analysis
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 05, 2021, 12:43:43 PM
How many mongers are needed for business to not be slow. And what price point is needed for her to maintain good business or even average business.  Chicas as a standard outnumber mongers and if 10 to 1 increases to 30 to 1 does that make business intolerable for a chica?

If they have the option I’ve been told by workers it’s better to take fewer customers and avoid the wear and tear. That’s only possible if a large enough group of guys are paying sufficiently to support a limited number of sessions per week. We have that situation now in Sosua where the upper level of chicks can choose when to work.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 05, 2021, 03:33:16 PM
The database of clients that maintain chicas regularly is vast.    Lets remove guys coming to Sosua for vacation from the equation.

What clients are left?   For one,  when the borders reopened last year July,  and up until now, scores of guys came to the DR with the intention of retiring here.  There are many guys spread everywhere around the DR.   Some fully retired, others semi retired.   Lots of guys have joined the ranks of expats already here.  Every time a hoe is not doing family or personal stuff,  if she is moving about she may potentially be traveling somewhere to earn some money.   

Social media has made it extremely easy for chicks to establish and maintain a client base simply through Whatsapp and/or FB.  Including other platforms like Dom Cupid, Tagged, Badoo etc.   

So when it comes to chicks earning money, guys need to open up their aperture and realize chicks are not relying only on one means of obtaining money.    Sosua is just another option.   There are chicks in PP, who are f--king expats that also live in PP.  There are chicks that live in Santo Domingo communicating with guys in Santo domingo ,Bavaro or Punta Cana.   If you see a chick on a bus, the back of a moto, or in a taxi,  there is a good chance she is going somewhere to f--k.  Make her money and bounce like nothing happened.   

The Sosua thing is structured.  It makes sense.  But what is really going on is f--king and earning money is happening all over the place.   Chicks are making money left and right.  Many are f--king every day.   Many have a roster of regulars.  It's easy money.   If a guy leaves to go back to the states,  they wait for his return so they can get him back into the rotation of regular income.   

Of course all of the guys maintaining these chicks generally are not exposed to the bullshit price expectations that guys on vacation keep complaining about.   Expats are paying rates that make it easy to f--k the chick once a week or 3 times a month.   And these men have a roster of regulars that they are rotating.   

So if people are following what Im saying,  dont ever listen to any chick telling you that business is slow.   With all of the f--king and potential f--king thats going on each month.   Getting paid for f--king is always available to most of these chicks.   And that doesnt include what local men are paying.   Or how chicks barter and exchange BJ's or f--king for a moto or taxi ride.     Never underestimate chicas and what they are capable of.   

They can get a session in within 15 minutes with one guy, and pop over another guys place like they were bored all day.     The guy asks what you been doing?   Chicas answer is,  she's bored.  Business is slow.  Guy says ok.  Because based on his point of reference and awareness,  what does he really know about what she is capable of?     Nothing.  Women get passes and are excused just for being women.    If I got 100 pesos every time some guy told me what some chick told him and he believed it, Id' be richer than I am.   
 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 05, 2021, 07:56:01 PM
Read this paragraph in Dominican Today regarding the new curfew duration :

"Unlike other curfews, this one has no end date and will remain in force until the corresponding authorities review it “always within the term authorized for the state of emergency” and “without prejudice to the maintenance or establishment of other measures that the competent authorities deem necessary.”
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 07, 2021, 06:48:41 AM
Like preaching to the Quire . or doing the same thing over and over again hopeing for a different result, Guys until folks are fullyvacinated and the covide cases goes down its going to be curfews and restrictions,,adjust and adapt, Side note Hoes are hungry  on of my repeats bailed out of Punta cana and return to sosua   , pay her well so i dont have to pay exsta when i go down to visit in August  Tall haitian big boobs fat ass big fake eye lashes,cant miss her
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 07, 2021, 07:52:01 AM
That's a nice ass!  I'll hit her up!! LoL!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on July 14, 2021, 08:41:15 PM
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/07/14/dominican-republic-eases-curfew-as-of-today/ (https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2021/07/14/dominican-republic-eases-curfew-as-of-today/)

Dominican Republic Eases Curfew As Of Today


Santo Domingo.- Wednesday July 14th, 2021

As of this Wednesday, the curfew in the Dominican Republic will be from 11:00 pm to 5:00 in the morning the next day, from Monday to Friday, according to decree 432-21, which extends the schedule for the consumption of alcoholic beverages.

The decree that takes effect today indicates that “as of Wednesday, July 14 of the current year, article 8 of decree 419-21 is rendered ineffective and, consequently, the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages in public and private places for public use is subject to the regular schedule of the curfew.

The previous decree 419-21 prohibited “in the national territory the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public and private places for public use every day from 6:00 p.m. until 5:00 a.m. ”

Decree 432-21 establishes that the curfew during the weekend will begin at 9:00 in the evening and will end at 5:00 in the morning of the next day. As on other days, there will be two hours of free movement.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: danceelite0 on July 15, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
Yes I am coming in at the end of the month.  The 29 supuestamente POP but now that my X’s family reunión in SD i think I’ll stop there first for a couple of days.  On the 21 of July the curfew should be 11pm for the whole country.   Then once Provence’s hit 70% vaccinated no curfew at at all for that Provence.  They are predicting la Altagracia is going to be first at 70% and they will be curfew free first.  Since thats Punta Cana i am absolutely positive they have sent the vaccine forces there to make sure.  The are already giving a third shot booster with-out questions at the Punta Cana airport.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 15, 2021, 07:28:47 PM
The database of clients that maintain chicas regularly is vast.    Lets remove guys coming to Sosua for vacation from the equation.

What clients are left?   For one,  when the borders reopened last year July,  and up until now, scores of guys came to the DR with the intention of retiring here.  There are many guys spread everywhere around the DR.   Some fully retired, others semi retired.   Lots of guys have joined the ranks of expats already here.  Every time a hoe is not doing family or personal stuff,  if she is moving about she may potentially be traveling somewhere to earn some money.   

Social media has made it extremely easy for chicks to establish and maintain a client base simply through Whatsapp and/or FB.  Including other platforms like Dom Cupid, Tagged, Badoo etc.   

So when it comes to chicks earning money, guys need to open up their aperture and realize chicks are not relying only on one means of obtaining money.    Sosua is just another option.   There are chicks in PP, who are f--king expats that also live in PP.  There are chicks that live in Santo Domingo communicating with guys in Santo domingo ,Bavaro or Punta Cana.   If you see a chick on a bus, the back of a moto, or in a taxi,  there is a good chance she is going somewhere to f--k.  Make her money and bounce like nothing happened.   

The Sosua thing is structured.  It makes sense.  But what is really going on is f--king and earning money is happening all over the place.   Chicks are making money left and right.  Many are f--king every day.   Many have a roster of regulars.  It's easy money.   If a guy leaves to go back to the states,  they wait for his return so they can get him back into the rotation of regular income.   

Of course all of the guys maintaining these chicks generally are not exposed to the bullshit price expectations that guys on vacation keep complaining about.   Expats are paying rates that make it easy to f--k the chick once a week or 3 times a month.   And these men have a roster of regulars that they are rotating.   

So if people are following what Im saying,  dont ever listen to any chick telling you that business is slow.   With all of the f--king and potential f--king thats going on each month.   Getting paid for f--king is always available to most of these chicks.   And that doesnt include what local men are paying.   Or how chicks barter and exchange BJ's or f--king for a moto or taxi ride.     Never underestimate chicas and what they are capable of.   

They can get a session in within 15 minutes with one guy, and pop over another guys place like they were bored all day.     The guy asks what you been doing?   Chicas answer is,  she's bored.  Business is slow.  Guy says ok.  Because based on his point of reference and awareness,  what does he really know about what she is capable of?     Nothing.  Women get passes and are excused just for being women.    If I got 100 pesos every time some guy told me what some chick told him and he believed it, Id' be richer than I am.   
 
You hit the nail on the head  key words barter and exchange,,locals expats and seasoned monger are all getting Pussy at a reasonable price or exchange,, Let the ballers and week end warriors keep paying the stratosphere prices,, The big picture is every one gets to sit at the table or gets a slice of pie
Observations Sir Watson  The more time you spend on the island the more you learn   all good !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Gutter meat on August 08, 2021, 01:52:35 PM
Can anyone confirm if 2413 Sports bar & Disco is open yet?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on August 08, 2021, 02:10:06 PM
As of Tuesday last week it was closed.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on August 08, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
Can anyone confirm if 2413 Sports bar & Disco is open yet?
I live in town and this spot is still closed.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on August 19, 2021, 08:08:52 AM
The post covid curfewless high season is coming. This will be the real test for that place. Survive or Die...2022 will tell the tale.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Gutter meat on September 06, 2021, 06:06:29 PM
Do you still have to be off the street at 1am in Sosua?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 07, 2021, 09:39:46 AM
As has been previously reported, the 2413 Sports Complex in the RLD is open for business.   1pm until 11pm.  Not sure of their days of operation.   Soon the large pool in the back will be completed.   The pool floor needs to be painted, and then the pool filled.

The front pool is ready to go.   Frank the manager there, mentioned that they are hiring some chicks to come there to hang out in and around the pool.  Most guys I talk to all say the same thing.  The place needs a draw in order to get people to come there, REGULARLY.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 07, 2021, 10:11:01 AM
Do you still have to be off the street at 1am in Sosua?
I believe officially that is the case.  Unofficially, thats another story.   I left the DR the end of August to go to the states.  Before I left Puerto Plata province was supposed to be close to meeting the 70% vaccination mandate in order to eliminate the curfew.

However, since I've been back in the DR,  the same 11pm curfew ( with 2 hrs transit allowance ) still exists.   I was expecting to come back to no curfew,  but it's still going on.   Ironically,  even when I asked several expats about the curfew,  those I talked to,   dont know jack about the status of the curfew.   Or the progress of the vaccination program in PP province.

For the most part , the 11pm curfew with 2 hrs travel has been adequate time for I guess most expats/early birds to enjoy an evening.   

Those in the know are probably going to the various nightlife spots that may be operating past 1am.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on September 07, 2021, 10:28:44 AM
Last month I was out driving [sweating bullets] after 2am. I had to avoid one roadblock by playa chiquita and later climbed a wall because security behind the locked gate was missing!! Hahaha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 07, 2021, 10:41:24 AM
Last month I was out driving [sweating bullets] after 2am. I had to avoid one roadblock by playa chiquita and later climbed a wall because security behind the locked gate was missing!! Hahaha
Road block huh?   See?  I dont go out or stay out that late to even know about where and when the road blocks are.   A few years ago,  I'd hang out on the strip with friends, enjoying the views and ambiance until I felt like going home.   

Could/would go pick up a chick any time of night.  Or drop her off any time of night.  But not any more. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 10, 2021, 02:15:39 AM
Its like a 24 hour 7/ 11  pussy on tap all hours,,,   even with the 11 pm pusssy cinderella hour you should be able to grab a piece of ass if not stay home,,, theres always after hours party spots for the party animals and young folks   by 1000 pm my old ass is in bed,,With a hot hoe !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Just_A_Guy on September 10, 2021, 08:08:20 PM
Its like a 24 hour 7/ 11  pussy on tap all hours,,,   even with the 11 pm pusssy cinderella hour you should be able to grab a piece of ass if not stay home,,, theres always after hours party spots for the party animals and young folks   by 1000 pm my old ass is in bed,,With a hot hoe !!!!!!!

And as long as you're willing to pay extra for a taxi, that 11 pm time doesn't even matter.  That's why just grabbing numbers during the day is so important.

And it being after hours can even work in your favor.  Because if she's home, that means she's just sittin up being broke...staring outta those cast iron window bars.  And if her earning a few mil and being UNbroke is simply a matter of hoppin in a cab, and goin to your crib to bust it open a couple/few times till morning, then that's a win/win.  Lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 13, 2021, 09:48:40 AM
My Current Observations ; Sunday September 12, 2021

Sosua nightlife is coming to life.   Apparently several places are open past the 11pm curfew.   Guys with boots on the ground know where those places are.   Are these places packed?  I dont know.   I have heard several different accounts.   But at least there is life.

Passed by NYC Drink last night about 6, and again around 9:30pm.   That place was packed like sardines.  And people hanging outside.   Cars parked on both sides of the street.   Young locals have made NYC Drink the go-to spot ( for them ). 

Im not sure what is going on at Ahnvee?   With their long gate and security on duty outside,  it's hard to tell what their status is for the general public?    Can non-staying guests come to dine there, and watch sports?   IDK.   

Meanwhile the 2413 Sports Complex at David's Plaza is showing signs of life.   Right now, this place is looking more like a place for vets and expats.   Because those are the main ones that have showed up to patronize the place. 

Frank found a few young chicas to hang out there.   Their job is to be seen, & mingle with the customers.  The waiter & waitresses serve the customers drinks and food.   Like anywhere else in Sosua, chicks dealing with foreigners may be available in most instances.   

I went there yesterday to play pool.   I'm waiting for my buddy to show up.  He got sidetracked.  His chica/amiga threw him a surprise BD party at another spot in town.  "Bliss", I believe it's called?   

Well when he didnt show up,  I had the table all to myself.   One of the newest chicas came over to greet me.   It was her 2nd day there.  I ended up keeping her with me.   We played around on the table, since she wasnt really a player.   Me pretending to teach her how to hit the balls.  We stopped to eat/drink/talk.   She gave me her number, before I left.   I could have arranged to take her home right then and there,  but chose not to.   

If Im inclined, I can connect with her later.   

IMO she was very attractive. I would be very surprised if she hasn't given her number out to at least a dozen customers in the two days she's been there.  IMO, she may not last long working there, before getting snatched away from there by some dude.   

Since it's football season, they may end up drawing a lot more customers in the near future.   Last February they would have had a decent crowd had it not been shut down.   In the meantime, Mr Flip Flop, Kings, The Tree House at Las Palmeras and a few others seem to be the known and preferred venues for sports fans.   

Whats the word on Ahnvee?   Can non staying guests come there to watch sports and dine?   





   

 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on September 13, 2021, 12:24:28 PM
if you are not registered to stay there my understanding is you still have to pay the 500 peso cover even if you want to come and eat but i dont know what time the cover starts
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 13, 2021, 03:45:35 PM
My Current Observations ; Sunday September 12, 2021

Sosua nightlife is coming to life.   Apparently several places are open past the 11pm curfew.   Guys with boots on the ground know where those places are.   Are these places packed?  I dont know.   I have heard several different accounts.   But at least there is life.

Passed by NYC Drink last night about 6, and again around 9:30pm.   That place was packed like sardines.  And people hanging outside.   Cars parked on both sides of the street.   Young locals have made NYC Drink the go-to spot ( for them ). 

Im not sure what is going on at Ahnvee?   With their long gate and security on duty outside,  it's hard to tell what their status is for the general public?    Can non-staying guests come to dine there, and watch sports?   IDK.   

Meanwhile the 2413 Sports Complex at David's Plaza is showing signs of life.   Right now, this place is looking more like a place for vets and expats.   Because those are the main ones that have showed up to patronize the place. 

Frank found a few young chicas to hang out there.   Their job is to be seen, & mingle with the customers.  The waiter & waitresses serve the customers drinks and food.   Like anywhere else in Sosua, chicks dealing with foreigners may be available in most instances.   

I went there yesterday to play pool.   I'm waiting for my buddy to show up.  He got sidetracked.  His chica/amiga threw him a surprise BD party at another spot in town.  "Bliss", I believe it's called?   

Well when he didnt show up,  I had the table all to myself.   One of the newest chicas came over to greet me.   It was her 2nd day there.  I ended up keeping her with me.   We played around on the table, since she wasnt really a player.   Me pretending to teach her how to hit the balls.  We stopped to eat/drink/talk.   She gave me her number, before I left.   I could have arranged to take her home right then and there,  but chose not to.   

If Im inclined, I can connect with her later.   

IMO she was very attractive. I would be very surprised if she hasn't given her number out to at least a dozen customers in the two days she's been there.  IMO, she may not last long working there, before getting snatched away from there by some dude.   

Since it's football season, they may end up drawing a lot more customers in the near future.   Last February they would have had a decent crowd had it not been shut down.   In the meantime, Mr Flip Flop, Kings, The Tree House at Las Palmeras and a few others seem to be the known and preferred venues for sports fans.   

Whats the word on Ahnvee?   Can non staying guests come there to watch sports and dine?   

Davids place needs to take a page out of the rancho tipico play book  have sexy chicas serve you  and if you pay a bar fine take her right away or after work   shit have a private booth for blow jobs  haha !





   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on September 13, 2021, 11:49:57 PM


  shit have a private booth for blow jobs  haha !





   


Actually it's already there.
One of the bars in the back was planned to be a strip club complete with some very private booth type areas.

Sure there will be plenty of dudes that got their monger feet wet in the USA strip clubs that would love such a place.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on September 14, 2021, 07:15:06 AM
is davids place open? where exactly is it located?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on September 14, 2021, 09:42:54 AM
is davids place open? where exactly is it located?

Far end of Pedro Clisante across from where the new police station was built a few years ago and next to the High Carribbean building.  You can't miss it as it's on the curve
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on September 14, 2021, 10:09:40 AM
Thank you very much
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on September 19, 2021, 03:53:25 AM
Just got back yesterday (15 day trip).  Went by David's Plaza 2413 / got a tour of the facility and drove by a couple of nights. No disrespect but the place is dead.  NYC Drink is a good spot to check on the weekend. During the week its slow.  98% Dominicans when I went.  The Casino is lit.  If someone's into to clubs that's the spot. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 13, 2021, 06:41:11 AM
Playa Sosua businesses have a decision to make.  One of my favorite places on the beach,  to eat and hang out has just closed.   Zanzibar.   A lot of factors went into them making that decision.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 13, 2021, 07:43:06 AM
Damn...that's hard to hear. I really enjoyed that perfect spot on the beach. Oh well, l hope it gets opened elsewhere.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on October 13, 2021, 08:21:36 AM
Spent some time at Zanzibar last month.  Owner was cool/good location on the beach.  Hope it works out.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on October 13, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Just landed! About to go act a fool! Lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 13, 2021, 11:50:07 AM
I got a good laugh out of a guy I sent a WA contact. She was at least an 8.5 - 10 for 90% of guys but he said when she showed up, she looked like a scrub and he didn't want her.  It made me laugh because we all talk so much shit about paying for [quality?] and here this guy told me he's seen better. I reminded him of his joy when he initially saw her pic and he said she didnt look that way in person.  And that's the name of that tune.  Not to mention, it seems no matter who posts a pic of a so called "Dime" others will always see her as less.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Raul67 on October 13, 2021, 05:56:52 PM
Sorry to hear that Zanzibar has closed.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Ted68 on October 13, 2021, 09:17:51 PM
Playa Sosua businesses have a decision to make.  One of my favorite places on the beach,  to eat and hang out has just closed.   Zanzibar.   A lot of factors went into them making that decision.
Damn..i met the brother my last trip and sorry to hear that. However listening to him on a live chat and what he went through in the states I believe he will bounce back with something else. I respect anyone who opens a business in another country and tries because I sure as hell wouldn't do it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 25, 2021, 01:18:18 PM
Monday October 25th, 2021

Went to the Playero supermercado this morning.   I was greeted by the security guard.   No need for showing him a vax card.   Watched others going in,  no vax card enforcement observed.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 25, 2021, 01:21:23 PM
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on October 25, 2021, 02:20:30 PM
Spent some time at Zanzibar last month.  Owner was cool/good location on the beach.  Hope it works out.

Big D relocated to Puerto Plata too. the handwriting is on the wall for some of the expat owned beach bars
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 25, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
Spent some time at Zanzibar last month.  Owner was cool/good location on the beach.  Hope it works out.

Big D relocated to Puerto Plata too. the handwriting is on the wall for some of the expat owned beach bars


Wow

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on October 25, 2021, 03:16:24 PM
Kiss the beach good bye  2 cheeky plazas at both ends ,, will the big hotel or resort thats going to be built limit access to hoes and locals !!!!!! the new resort beach !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: whereareyouhoney on October 26, 2021, 03:15:07 AM
Kiss the beach good bye  2 cheeky plazas at both ends ,, will the big hotel or resort thats going to be built limit access to hoes and locals !!!!!! the new resort beach !

For real ? Nooo. This is making me sad . Need to come back ASAP to see real Playa Sosua for the last time  ;D
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 26, 2021, 07:59:45 PM
Tuesday October 26th, 2021

So Mosha's Jamaican Cuisine has settled in on a place.   On calle Dr. Rosen, directly across the street from Blue Ice bar.   He took over the spot that had a bar mostly filled with white dudes,  and mostly Haitian chicks hanging in and outside the bar.   

From the looks of things,  the place was sort of dead when I passed by around 7ish this evening.    IMO I think he's in a good spot.  So lets see how his regulars and potential customers take to patronizing him there.   

Chicas seem to be acting very cautious in their movements on the strip.   Congregating in front of some venues, or near the rooms they stay at,  the liquor store on PC.  Just about anywhere they can take cover and feel safe from being picked up and hauled off to jail.

Since Ive been away for about a month some of these chicas look relatively new to me or to the Sosua scene.   As for night life,  the guys here will have to supply intel on what the club situation is like.   

El Flows location is still under construction.  I saw when it was being demolished a couple of months ago.    Right now it looks like a solid concrete building.   In a short amount of time it will be up and running for whatever it's supposed to be.   

Way down by Pedro Clisante are couple of colmados.   There was a large clothing store next door called La Pulga.   But it looks like it has been replaced by a Supermercado.   The owner of the Del La Cruz colmado made it it into a larger market.   

For those living in the area,  this might be a great alternative to Supa Pola or Playero ( for some things ).   

The 2413 Sports Complex at David's Plaza is operating with a small staff.    Meanwhile,  the place stays dead.   I do believe they may have private events planned from time to time.   But not any consistent flow of patrons, YET!.   

All in all, Sosua seems to be slow right now.   But it's enjoyably slow.   At least from my perspective.   By next week or so, closer to the Halloween holiday things may pick up?   Regardless,  I'll enjoy whatever is in store. 

I believe a lot of guys got spooked once they heard that one may need a vax card just to go shopping.  Some got it twisted and believe they need a vax card to board a plane.     I personally know several dudes in a group cancelled their plans because they may feel that their trip will be ruined.   Others bold enough, kept their plans in motion.   

IMO when it's slow like this as far as tourists in town running amuck,  thats a good thing.   More supply for those that are here.   Another observation as I was enjoying the beach today.   It seems a lot of Europeans, maybe even Canadians are here.   Not all appear to be here to monger. 

I think Sosua has taken on a lot more expats choosing to live here permanently, or part time.   Occasionally seeing more women coming to Sosua or nearby to live.       

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on October 27, 2021, 02:13:48 AM
Kiss the beach good bye  2 cheeky plazas at both ends ,, will the big hotel or resort thats going to be built limit access to hoes and locals !!!!!! the new resort beach !

For real ? Nooo. This is making me sad . Need to come back ASAP to see real Playa Sosua for the last time  ;D
Its in the Cards  But things move very slow in the DR,could be awhile,,Once they have the money to build the 2 plazas and they break ground on a big hotel or resort  , till then you still can enjoy the beach bars !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JoeRoc on October 27, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
Kiss the beach good bye  2 cheeky plazas at both ends ,, will the big hotel or resort thats going to be built limit access to hoes and locals !!!!!! the new resort beach !

For real ? Nooo. This is making me sad . Need to come back ASAP to see real Playa Sosua for the last time  ;D
Its in the Cards  But things move very slow in the DR,could be awhile,,Once they have the money to build the 2 plazas and they break ground on a big hotel or resort  , till then you still can enjoy the beach bars !

I need this reassurance thank you
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 27, 2021, 08:01:32 PM
Tuesday October 26th, 2021

So Mosha's Jamaican Cuisine has settled in on a place.   On calle Dr. Rosen, directly across the street from Blue Ice bar.   He took over the spot that had a bar mostly filled with white dudes,  and mostly Haitian chicks hanging in and outside the bar.   

From the looks of things,  the place was sort of dead when I passed by around 7ish this evening.    IMO I think he's in a good spot.  So lets see how his regulars and potential customers take to patronizing him there.   

Chicas seem to be acting very cautious in their movements on the strip.   Congregating in front of some venues, or near the rooms they stay at,  the liquor store on PC.  Just about anywhere they can take cover and feel safe from being picked up and hauled off to jail.

Since Ive been away for about a month some of these chicas look relatively new to me or to the Sosua scene.   As for night life,  the guys here will have to supply intel on what the club situation is like.   

El Flows location is still under construction.  I saw when it was being demolished a couple of months ago.    Right now it looks like a solid concrete building.   In a short amount of time it will be up and running for whatever it's supposed to be.   

Way down by Pedro Clisante are couple of colmados.   There was a large clothing store next door called La Pulga.   But it looks like it has been replaced by a Supermercado.   The owner of the Del La Cruz colmado made it it into a larger market.   

For those living in the area,  this might be a great alternative to Supa Pola or Playero ( for some things ).   

The 2413 Sports Complex at David's Plaza is operating with a small staff.    Meanwhile,  the place stays dead.   I do believe they may have private events planned from time to time.   But not any consistent flow of patrons, YET!.   

All in all, Sosua seems to be slow right now.   But it's enjoyably slow.   At least from my perspective.   By next week or so, closer to the Halloween holiday things may pick up?   Regardless,  I'll enjoy whatever is in store. 

I believe a lot of guys got spooked once they heard that one may need a vax card just to go shopping.  Some got it twisted and believe they need a vax card to board a plane.     I personally know several dudes in a group cancelled their plans because they may feel that their trip will be ruined.   Others bold enough, kept their plans in motion.   

IMO when it's slow like this as far as tourists in town running amuck,  thats a good thing.   More supply for those that are here.   Another observation as I was enjoying the beach today.   It seems a lot of Europeans, maybe even Canadians are here.   Not all appear to be here to monger. 

I think Sosua has taken on a lot more expats choosing to live here permanently, or part time.   Occasionally seeing more women coming to Sosua or nearby to live.     

You said ALL THAT to say what tho?? Everybody on here knows you were pretty much against vaccines. Yet you wrote a short story and almost completely left out the only thing most on here care about.

What places have you been where you had to show proof of a vaccine or negative covid test??! Since you "live" there that what good you can do the board. Most on here don't care bout Canadians or Euros unless they are gay. You mentioned a group online who canceled their trip and others who did NOT.

What is the current on the grounds report about this situation?? One would almost think by you kind of leaving out FACTS of the current situation that they have cracked down and giving you a hard time...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 28, 2021, 11:44:29 AM
Tuesday October 26th, 2021

So Mosha's Jamaican Cuisine has settled in on a place.   On calle Dr. Rosen, directly across the street from Blue Ice bar.   He took over the spot that had a bar mostly filled with white dudes,  and mostly Haitian chicks hanging in and outside the bar.   

From the looks of things,  the place was sort of dead when I passed by around 7ish this evening.    IMO I think he's in a good spot.  So lets see how his regulars and potential customers take to patronizing him there.   

Chicas seem to be acting very cautious in their movements on the strip.   Congregating in front of some venues, or near the rooms they stay at,  the liquor store on PC.  Just about anywhere they can take cover and feel safe from being picked up and hauled off to jail.

Since Ive been away for about a month some of these chicas look relatively new to me or to the Sosua scene.   As for night life,  the guys here will have to supply intel on what the club situation is like.   

El Flows location is still under construction.  I saw when it was being demolished a couple of months ago.    Right now it looks like a solid concrete building.   In a short amount of time it will be up and running for whatever it's supposed to be.   

Way down by Pedro Clisante are couple of colmados.   There was a large clothing store next door called La Pulga.   But it looks like it has been replaced by a Supermercado.   The owner of the Del La Cruz colmado made it it into a larger market.   

For those living in the area,  this might be a great alternative to Supa Pola or Playero ( for some things ).   

The 2413 Sports Complex at David's Plaza is operating with a small staff.    Meanwhile,  the place stays dead.   I do believe they may have private events planned from time to time.   But not any consistent flow of patrons, YET!.   

All in all, Sosua seems to be slow right now.   But it's enjoyably slow.   At least from my perspective.   By next week or so, closer to the Halloween holiday things may pick up?   Regardless,  I'll enjoy whatever is in store. 

I believe a lot of guys got spooked once they heard that one may need a vax card just to go shopping.  Some got it twisted and believe they need a vax card to board a plane.     I personally know several dudes in a group cancelled their plans because they may feel that their trip will be ruined.   Others bold enough, kept their plans in motion.   

IMO when it's slow like this as far as tourists in town running amuck,  thats a good thing.   More supply for those that are here.   Another observation as I was enjoying the beach today.   It seems a lot of Europeans, maybe even Canadians are here.   Not all appear to be here to monger. 

I think Sosua has taken on a lot more expats choosing to live here permanently, or part time.   Occasionally seeing more women coming to Sosua or nearby to live.     

You said ALL THAT to say what tho?? Everybody on here knows you were pretty much against vaccines. Yet you wrote a short story and almost completely left out the only thing most on here care about.

What places have you been where you had to show proof of a vaccine or negative covid test??! Since you "live" there that what good you can do the board. Most on here don't care bout Canadians or Euros unless they are gay. You mentioned a group online who canceled their trip and others who did NOT.

What is the current on the grounds report about this situation?? One would almost think by you kind of leaving out FACTS of the current situation that they have cracked down and giving you a hard time...
Mr N,  Im not a f--king mind reader to know what you or anybody else thinks I am supposed to post for other people.    Why?   Just because I created this thread a long time ago?   Just because I live in Sosua?   Please explain your position?    What I do know is any individual here can ask a f--king question of the board.  And maybe get an answer.   

If not from me, from someone else, maybe somebody like yourself.  Which is what other people have been doing already.  On various topics started.    Or is it you havent been paying attention to that?     WTF does me supposedly having a problem with vaccines have to do with this topic?   Damn dude, I just got back to Sosua and havent been here a week. 

I havent been to every  gottdamn place here to know everything.    Thats what Im doing now.  Checking things out daily, and reporting as I learn    That doesnt make me an authority.    Also please stop with the "you live there"  crap.     Living here dont have jack to do with knowing what other people need to know.   When I left for a month I was out of the loop my damn self.    I relied on whatever reports people shared here as well.   But I didnt shame them if they didnt say what I wanted to read in their post.    So take a chill pill.   I just got back Saturday, and already you of all people are busting balls?   WTF?   

Side note :  Didnt I add the caveat in one of my recent messages that those folks with boots on the ground might be able to give a better account of certain venues and activities going on in Sosua/DR?   Especially since Im not all over the place just because I live in Sosua.   Im pretty sure I did.    So I dont know why any one here would need to hold me accountable for supplying specific information they want posted?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 28, 2021, 12:05:00 PM
Wednesday   October 27, 2021

Took a trip to Cabarete stopped at Janets market,  went in to check to see if they required customers to have a vax ID.  They require it.

Got back to Sosua went to Supa Pola, not required. 

Went to Caribe Express next door, required.  But very lax,  A copy on your phone is sufficient for entry.

Carol RX farmacia, required

I already stated Playero , not required.   I believe most colamdos and liquor stores, vax card not required.

No bar or restaurant in Sosua that I know requires a vax card.   

I do believe the banks and WU offices require it.   I just dont know how strict they are, and if they check IDs also.   


Now FWIW, the reason I posted info STARTING with my experience shopping at Playero the other day,  and giving details of other places as I learned about their policy,   is because guys I know cancelled trips because they thought that they would be restricted from buying food and going other places, if they did not have a vax card to produce.   I suspect many other guys I dont know may have felt the same.   

This concern especially goes for guys staying at villas.    So I dont have a clue why me posting info on places like Playero not checking vax cards would get anybody riled the f--k up over that?   Or tie that to me not being pro Covid vaccine?    Any MOFO can simply ask a question to get feedback not shared here.  Hey do you know of places that do require a vax card?   Etc etc etc.  Simple board etiquette.   

Well,  I was going to get to offering more details in the next few days,weeks.   But I obviously aint moving fast enough for some people. 

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on October 28, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
Wednesday   October 27, 2021

Took a trip to Cabarete stopped at Janets market,  went in to check to see if they required customers to have a vax ID.  They require it.

Got back to Sosua went to Supa Pola, not required. 

Went to Caribe Express next door, required.  But very lax,  A copy on your phone is sufficient for entry.

Carol RX farmacia, required

I already stated Playero , not required.   I believe most colamdos and liquor stores, vax card not required.

No bar or restaurant in Sosua that I know requires a vax card.   

I do believe the banks and WU offices require it.   I just dont know how strict they are, and if they check IDs also.   


Now FWIW, the reason I posted info STARTING with my experience shopping at Playero the other day,  and giving details of other places as I learned about their policy,   is because guys I know cancelled trips because they thought that they would be restricted from buying food and going other places, if they did not have a vax card to produce.   I suspect many other guys I dont know may have felt the same.   

This concern especially goes for guys staying at villas.    So I dont have a clue why me posting info on places like Playero not checking vax cards would get anybody riled the f--k up over that?   Or tie that to me not being pro Covid vaccine?    Any MOFO can simply ask a question to get feedback not shared here.  Hey do you know of places that do require a vax card?   Etc etc etc.  Simple board etiquette.   

Well,  I was going to get to offering more details in the next few days,weeks.   But I obviously aint moving fast enough for some people. 

 

If you're at an open air establisment like a bar or a colmodo technically you're still outside but this is the DR we're talking about so of course it's gonna be a clusterf--k.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Y2jbrock12 on October 28, 2021, 03:07:43 PM
I bet the rules are more strict in Santo Domingo than sosua
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on October 28, 2021, 06:29:27 PM
Wednesday   October 27, 2021

Took a trip to Cabarete stopped at Janets market,  went in to check to see if they required customers to have a vax ID.  They require it.

Got back to Sosua went to Supa Pola, not required. 

Went to Caribe Express next door, required.  But very lax,  A copy on your phone is sufficient for entry.

Carol RX farmacia, required

I already stated Playero , not required.   I believe most colamdos and liquor stores, vax card not required.

No bar or restaurant in Sosua that I know requires a vax card.   

I do believe the banks and WU offices require it.   I just dont know how strict they are, and if they check IDs also.   


Now FWIW, the reason I posted info STARTING with my experience shopping at Playero the other day,  and giving details of other places as I learned about their policy,   is because guys I know cancelled trips because they thought that they would be restricted from buying food and going other places, if they did not have a vax card to produce.   I suspect many other guys I dont know may have felt the same.   

This concern especially goes for guys staying at villas.    So I dont have a clue why me posting info on places like Playero not checking vax cards would get anybody riled the f--k up over that?   Or tie that to me not being pro Covid vaccine?    Any MOFO can simply ask a question to get feedback not shared here.  Hey do you know of places that do require a vax card?   Etc etc etc.  Simple board etiquette.   

Well,  I was going to get to offering more details in the next few days,weeks.   But I obviously aint moving fast enough for some people. 

 

Appreciate the info.  On the ground in 2 weeks.  Will see if the requirements hold up.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: horse4296 on October 28, 2021, 06:41:12 PM
Thanks Murano your advise is appreciated.     WHY THE HELL DOES EVERYONE FEEL THE NEED TO ATTACH THE WHOLE F'ING EMAIL SRING TO THEIR REPLIES?????
Just reply
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on October 28, 2021, 07:09:40 PM
About the vax card bar merengue had that Italian guy checking at the door when I went a couple days ago nothing to serious as I just showed him a copy of it on my phone didn't need Id if you wanted to you could take a picture of someone else's and get in.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 29, 2021, 08:04:34 AM
To those who offered a kind thank you for my small effort/contribution to this thread, you are welcome.   Need more board members like you. 

Thx WT3 for sharing that about entry into Merengue bar.   What Im going to do though, is see if their door policy has changed since your report?   Reason being, before I got back to Sosua initial reports I read online claimed that Playero , Supa Pola  (and others ) you had to show a vax card.   But then when I got back here and went to both stores myself,  no vax card was needed.    In a short amount of time that vax card upon entry to those stores changed already.   

And of course we have to see if the lax policy for any venue sticks or goes back again to having to show a vax card upon entry.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2021, 08:49:09 AM
Friday October 29th 2021    Re : MERENGUE BAR

About 3:30pm me and a buddy strolled past Merengue Bar.   Saw a dude inside that we both know.  Started to go in.  But noticed a staff member walking towards the entrance door.   I was expecting him to stop us and ask for our vax cards.  Instead he just welcomed us in.   Wasnt looking for a vax card.   He saw us looking in and was trying to get us to come in.   

This vax card policy can make it hard on some businesses.   When feedback is shared from someone reporting a vax card was needed for a particular place ( they went to ),  the people getting that report may never seek to go there or worse cancel a trip.  A person turned away by a business ( for not producing a vax card ) may not go back again as well.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 30, 2021, 08:59:59 AM
Not one entity in Sosua, Pop or Santiago has asked me for any kind of vax info...and that includes the airport. No one cares about masks other than to sell them or pretend they are mandatory to enter their business.  Inside clubs are like...overcrowded and no masks anywhere in sight.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2021, 09:51:21 AM
Not one entity in Sosua, Pop or Santiago has asked me for any kind of vax info...and that includes the airport. No one cares about masks other than to sell them or pretend they are mandatory to enter their business.  Inside clubs are like...overcrowded and no masks anywhere in sight.
I dont recall airports ever requiring anyone to show a vax card?   FWIW it's understood the entities you went to never asked you about a vax card.   But did you physically go into any banks or WU offices in the DR?   And if so,  was it required? 

But they let you go in anyway?   Those are the entities that I believe would be more inclined to ask for a vax card.
But if you NEVER SET FOOT in any of those places,  you wouldnt get to be asked even if they required it.     

Just this morning, I was tempted to stop by my 2 banks in Sosua to check on the enforcement of vax cards upon entry,  but the lines were too long.   At Banco Popular,  the drive thru lane was quite long as well.    I find that waiting to go inside of BP is a pain in the ass.   1st off the locals act like they dont know how to be organized and form a line.  And the security guard does a piss poor job of making sure people are organized and lined up upon arrival.     

I did not get a chance to check the status/enforcement of those 2 banks ( for myself ), but I suspect a vax card needs to be shown,  and they are also cross referencing it with your ID.    That was info that was shared by a few individuals a few days ago.   With banks or WU,  I dont think they all changed their enforcement upon entry.     Perhaps it depends on where you go and who you know?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on October 30, 2021, 10:54:42 AM
Take it as you like ... my main who lives in Santiago just told me that yesterday:
She went shopping trough last week to 3 big supermercados and a couple small shops and none of them asked her to show a vax card.
She went to a couple restaurants and small clubs and none asked for a vax card.
The only places she went where they asked her for a vax card is Banreservas and government offices.
I have no reason to doubt what she told me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 30, 2021, 11:16:00 AM
I was at BP today and yes, security with the shottywas letting people with no mask in....yes you read that right...two euros and two dominicans!  He said something but they gave weak sounding excuses.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 30, 2021, 12:14:00 PM
Not one entity in Sosua, Pop or Santiago has asked me for any kind of vax info...and that includes the airport. No one cares about masks other than to sell them or pretend they are mandatory to enter their business.  Inside clubs are like...overcrowded and no masks anywhere in sight.

Have you been to Playa Chiquita casino or Ahnvee at night tho???
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MrNavigator on October 30, 2021, 12:16:42 PM
Friday October 29th 2021    Re : MERENGUE BAR

About 3:30pm me and a buddy strolled past Merengue Bar.   Saw a dude inside that we both know.  Started to go in.  But noticed a staff member walking towards the entrance door.   I was expecting him to stop us and ask for our vax cards.  Instead he just welcomed us in.   Wasnt looking for a vax card.   He saw us looking in and was trying to get us to come in.   

This vax card policy can make it hard on some businesses.   When feedback is shared from someone reporting a vax card was needed for a particular place ( they went to ),  the people getting that report may never seek to go there or worse cancel a trip.  A person turned away by a business ( for not producing a vax card ) may not go back again as well.   

Thanks for the updates! I'm thinking maybe the weekend they may tighten up....especially at night at the bars, casinos. Especially if SD officials are there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 30, 2021, 03:05:49 PM
Not one entity in Sosua, Pop or Santiago has asked me for any kind of vax info...and that includes the airport. No one cares about masks other than to sell them or pretend they are mandatory to enter their business.  Inside clubs are like...overcrowded and no masks anywhere in sight.

Have you been to Playa Chiquita casino or Ahnvee at night tho???
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 30, 2021, 03:10:47 PM
Ahnvee, Playa Chiquita and ev3ry club I went into, Pop as well....crowded af...and no masks!!  But plenty of underaged chicas inside!  Security very lax!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2021, 04:17:26 PM
I was at BP today and yes, security with the shottywas letting people with no mask in....yes you read that right...two euros and two dominicans!  He said something but they gave weak sounding excuses.
I got the no mask part.  But was security or bank staff asking or looking for people to show a vaxx card upon entry to the bank? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2021, 04:31:14 PM
Friday October 29, 2021   Re: Exchange rate/ATM

Just a quick FYI.  Bumped into Mapello ( mobile exchange guy ) yesterday, inquired about the rate he was offering.  He was offering 56 to 1.    Caribe Express had 56.15 posted outside.  Went to Banco La Nacional in Puerto Plata to withdraw money from the ATM outside.  I got 56.28 rate on my ATM withdrawals. This ATM does not charge any fees.  But your bank might if you are not using a fee-less debit card.     

I tried my Bank Of America DC earlier this year ( at Banco La Nacional in PP ) and got hit hard with fees by my own bank.  Never again.  Only use my Charles Schwab DC. 

Oh yeah, I recommend still staying away from Banco La Nacional in Sosua ( across from the police station/Playero ).   I still believe that machine is compromised.  Dont use it unless you know the rigging problem has been resolved.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on October 30, 2021, 04:35:36 PM
Take it as you like ... my main who lives in Santiago just told me that yesterday:
She went shopping trough last week to 3 big supermercados and a couple small shops and none of them asked her to show a vax card.
She went to a couple restaurants and small clubs and none asked for a vax card.
The only places she went where they asked her for a vax card is Banreservas and government offices.
I have no reason to doubt what she told me.
I have no reason to doubt that either.  That sounds about right.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 31, 2021, 09:11:08 AM
I was at BP today and yes, security with the shottywas letting people with no mask in....yes you read that right...two euros and two dominicans!  He said something but they gave weak sounding excuses.
I got the no mask part.  But was security or bank staff asking or looking for people to show a vaxx card upon entry to the bank?
I never made it inside and I didnt see anyone showing cards to anyone outside in the line.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on October 31, 2021, 01:43:36 PM
We all know this is Dominican rules are made to be broken till there not! Expect government blow back with vax cards in Su local pharmacist busted for fake vax cards.. I was carded 7 times in  past two weeks.. there is fourth wave hitting here hopefully no more lockdowns going to happen in near future.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on October 31, 2021, 02:50:39 PM
I'm all over the place and havent been asked yet. As a back up I intend to flash my dominican qr code quickly with w bunch of english babble. As a gringo, that should be enough.  But like I said, not even hint of any requests to see a vax card...and barely any respect for masks. It's all coming across like government horseshit!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JakefromStateFarm on October 31, 2021, 06:51:33 PM
If anyone needs a car rental, eyeglasses or a 500 peso chica, get with Papi. If you want health advice, please ignore.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: mvagusta16 on October 31, 2021, 06:57:16 PM
If anyone needs a car rental, eyeglasses or a 500 peso chica, get with Papi. If you want health advice, please ignore.

lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 01, 2021, 04:47:36 AM
Itsbok with me...But man...Ineed sleep!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on November 01, 2021, 05:33:31 PM
WHY THE HELL DOES EVERYONE FEEL THE NEED TO ATTACH THE WHOLE F'ING EMAIL SRING TO THEIR REPLIES?????
Just reply

HAHA, the mosting f--kING annoying thing about this!

You're right  ;D
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 02, 2021, 03:56:19 PM
Tuesday Nov 2, 2021

Went shopping at Playero today.   This time they are asking to show a vax card.  Not checking thoroughly,  just want to see a vax card.     Went to Supa Pola too.   They still are not asking to see a vax card.   But I did notice that they have a sign posted at the entrance outside telling customers that they need to present a vax card upon entry.     So obviously the store is choosing to ignore the mandate.   

And BTW,  I noticed that both stores were very light when it came to customers.  Giving me the impression that the stores may be losing business from those not able or not willing to show a vax card.   I'd like to know whats the scene like at La Sirena in PP?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 07, 2021, 11:27:36 AM
Tuesday Nov 2, 2021

Went shopping at Playero today.   This time they are asking to show a vax card.  Not checking thoroughly,  just want to see a vax card.    
Buddy tells me he went to Playero yesterday. ( Saturday Nov 6, 2021 ).  No Vax card asked or required for entry.   So like I said before, there is no consistent enforcement for this store.   

Hung out a little last night.   Stopped by The Tree House 2 for about 30 minutes.   2 scheduled fights were being shown on their flat screens.   They had a reserved section set up.  And other tables for those not wanting to pay for bottle service.  I'd say I saw about 3 dozen chicas sitting around or passing through during the time I was around.   

Ended up going to Kings/Rumba to hang with friends and see the fights there.   They also had chicas there.  A lot more than The Tree House 2 had.  Occasionally, you'll see chicks from one spot showing up at a different spot.   Always on the hunt for clients.  Another observation, is that many of the chicas posted up at Kings attempted to dress up a little more.   More chicas looking more classy with their high heels.   

What I also noticed, which is nothing new to ya'll, that more and more of these chicks are sporting butt surgeries.   Cartoon like butts in my opinion.  Some of these chicks I watched for years,  so I know what a lot of their bodies looked like a few years back.   Now, enough of them have altered the natural beauty that they were born with.   

After the fight,  I decide to head towards Playa Chiquita to the casino and club.   Hung outside just watching the scene.  Here, I'd estimate that there had to be a a lot more chicas inside than were at TTH and Kings combined?    Saw many young chicas with body types that I go for.    Some dressy casual, others dressed up in high heels.   The night life potential Im seeing is promising.

Whats good about it,  is that there seems to be an abundance of chicas available all over town, even though there is still a decent number of guys in town as well.    Now I cant say all of these chicas are hard up for scoring clients.   Because their baseline income probably is easily attainable with no problem.   And anything else they make beyond their baseline within a month is probably treated as a bonus.    More and more chicas are sporting cars, scooters, new clothes , hair and accessories.   

So I'm assuming enough are maintaining themselves quite well.    Im trying to figure out whats going on with the Haitian chicas?   Over the last year or so, a lot more chicas are coming to Sosua to hustle.   And especially now, since a lot of Canadians and European have returned to the DR.   I have heard reports that some Haitian chicas trying to ask and get paid  more for their services.   

At times, hoping to get as much as what some Dominican chicks are seeking.  5000 pesos and up for ST,  including quoting to potential clients in USD.    Everybody wants to get a piece of the action from the dudes having no problem with paying more than necessary.   Anyway,  Saturday night in town was a great night, especially for a laid back expat.     

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 14, 2021, 09:45:33 AM
FYI reminder. 

The Lab-Clinic in Plaza Colonial ( next door to Banco Popular ) has a sign out front of the plaza showing they are open on Sunday's.    8am - 12noon.    Essentially, this means they are open 7 days a week.   

This can be helpful to anyone flying on a Sunday, or Monday and worried that they might not get a Covid test in time before their flight.   Especially for those with the 24hr window for obtaining a negative Covid test before they fly.     

My two experiences with this clinic were very easy.  I went before 9 in the morning on each visit,  and was told to come back in 2 hours.    My last visit , I noticed the sign on their office window that they had Sunday hours,  and just yesterday I saw the BIG sign out front of the plaza.   

Side note!   Covid tests are available in the DR airports.  Im told the test may only take about 15 minutes in order to get your results.   Risky move.   Especially if you test positive right there at the airport. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dothedamthing on November 14, 2021, 11:14:11 AM
Super Pola was carding yesterday. I doubt the security could read my card just glanced at it and passed me through. Supermercado was not and no other place has asked for my info. So I guess it's when they feel like it or maybe when they think they are being watched. Yes know before you get to the airport so you can plan accordingly.

FYI...
Speaking of Grocery stores if you travel here and shop them enough sign up for their store/discount card. I use it every time I shop and yesterday it took 1500/$26.50 pesos/dollars off my bill. Some of the liquor and other items were on sale.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 14, 2021, 12:23:24 PM
Super Pola was carding yesterday. I doubt the security could read my card just glanced at it and passed me through. Supermercado was not and no other place has asked for my info. So I guess it's when they feel like it or maybe when they think they are being watched. Yes know before you get to the airport so you can plan accordingly.

FYI...
Speaking of Grocery stores if you travel here and shop them enough sign up for their store/discount card. I use it every time I shop and yesterday it took 1500/$26.50 pesos/dollars off my bill. Some of the liquor and other items were on sale.
This is the 1st time ( since I have been back in Sosua on Oct 23, ) that I have heard , Super Pola is checking for vax cards.   I shopped at Super Pola just this Friday afternoon,  and only got a temp check.   All of my previous visits were temp checks only.   Now you are saying they were checking for vax cards, yesterday.   Oh well. 

Friday I also went to Playero.  No vax card asked for.     Could you clarify something?   

You mentioned that "supermercado" was not ( checking for vax cards ).    What supermercado were you referring to?    Because Playero, Super Pola , Janets in Cabarete, La Sirena in Puerto Plata are all supermercados.    They just have different names.   

You getting a store card was a good move.   For those who may not know :   You dont get discounts on purchases when using the store card immediately ( Im specifically referring to the supermercados in the area ).   Your discounts come after you've shopped at the store awhile, presenting the card at the register each visit.   After a few months of shopping, and depending on how much youve spent,  one can accrue peso credits which can be used to spend in the store.     

At the register, when you present your store card,  the cashier can see how much peso credit you have earned.    They may ask you if you want to use your credit now,  or ring up your current purchase the "normal" way.    If you choose to use the credit,  they will apply that credit to the current purchase.   If the store credit doesnt cover the whole purchase,  then you pay the difference.     

Once at La Sirena ( a few years ago ) I had accrued points/credit.   Back then,  they sent me to the courtesy counter to get a credit voucher for what I had earned in the store.  IMO, now I believe all store credit can be seen and applied right at the registers.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on November 14, 2021, 12:28:40 PM
Aren't there in store specials where the price only applies to loyalty program participants? if you are a member you pay the discounted price and if you are not a member you pay the full price.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 14, 2021, 12:37:23 PM
Aren't there in store specials where the price only applies to loyalty program participants? if you are a member you pay the discounted price and if you are not a member you pay the full price.
Do you have an example of what items you believe may have been on sale , that these stores are giving specials,  only for store card holders?     What you are asking sounds more like what many of us are used to in the states.   I dont particularly recall the practice here in the DR.    Most of these stores already have a loyalty system in place.   I dont see why they would need to apply what you suggested too?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on November 14, 2021, 01:00:58 PM
Aren't there in store specials where the price only applies to loyalty program participants? if you are a member you pay the discounted price and if you are not a member you pay the full price.
Do you have an example of what items you believe may have been on sale , that these stores are giving specials,  only for store card holders?     What you are asking sounds more like what many of us are used to in the states.   I dont particularly recall the practice here in the DR.    Most of these stores already have a loyalty system in place.   I dont see why they would need to apply what you suggested too?

I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 14, 2021, 01:42:36 PM
Aren't there in store specials where the price only applies to loyalty program participants? if you are a member you pay the discounted price and if you are not a member you pay the full price.
Do you have an example of what items you believe may have been on sale , that these stores are giving specials,  only for store card holders?     What you are asking sounds more like what many of us are used to in the states.   I dont particularly recall the practice here in the DR.    Most of these stores already have a loyalty system in place.   I dont see why they would need to apply what you suggested too?

I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.
Until you share some examples of your understanding,  one can only rely on their own experience when shopping.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on November 14, 2021, 01:58:48 PM
Aren't there in store specials where the price only applies to loyalty program participants? if you are a member you pay the discounted price and if you are not a member you pay the full price.
Do you have an example of what items you believe may have been on sale , that these stores are giving specials,  only for store card holders?     What you are asking sounds more like what many of us are used to in the states.   I dont particularly recall the practice here in the DR.    Most of these stores already have a loyalty system in place.   I dont see why they would need to apply what you suggested too?

I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.
Until you share some examples of your understanding,  one can only rely on their own experience when shopping.   

I agree. Next time I'm in town I'll conduct an experiment to proof or disprove my conjecture.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on November 14, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
Some sale items at Super Pola are occasionally listed as "member only" promotional pricing.

I found that out several years ago when i saw a bottle of wine usually $799 on sale with a big yellow poster for $599. It was before I had a La Sirena (super Pola) card and later when i looked at the bill i noticed i had paid the regular not sale price.

I use an RD Scotia debit card when there, but I know that La Sirena has a cash back credit card linked to their points card that also offers 5% at their locations, 3% at gas and maybe 2% at other spots. Not sure what local bank supports it. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 14, 2021, 06:44:08 PM
Yes its true I do recall now, that some sale items at Super Pola were occasionally listed as member only promotional items.   But the trick is, getting them to apply a discount automatically or at your request at the register.   In that store, it will be up to the customer to make sure any discounts are actually applied and deducted by the cashier.   And since this is the DR, locals are known to get over on customers ( especially foreigners ) who may not pay attention to details.     

Here's another potential dilemma.   The customer sees an item on the shelf that appears to be a good buy, but doesnt pay attention to how it's listed.   Check out the pic from an item on the shelf at Super Pola,  taken back in August 2021.

A jar of Prego meat sauce has the previous price crossed out.  It was 136 pesos.   Behind that label, you can see the 136 peso label as well.     The new label and price in front, shows it's NOW 205 pesos until August 31, 2021.  And they specifically print the price in RED
so the item stands out.  It may appear as if the item is a good buy.  And also it says the price is exclusive for store card loyalists.  LOL    :D

Doesnt make a lot of sense, does it?.   If you follow what is posted, the loyalty members pay the exclusive price which is more than the previous price which was lower?    Loyalty members have to pay more for that jar of sauce until a certain date.   Why not wait until Sept 1, and pay only 136 pesos for the sauce?  If they made a mistake with the price label, you can be sure that the consumer will be on the losing end of the issue,  not the store.     

My overall issue with the store, is that very often they have fraudulent practices as well as problems with incompetency in how they operate.    Them having occasional discounts from time to time may seem cool.   But one needs to be careful,  in that some items may be priced to get you to put it in your cart, with no intention of them honoring a discount.   Other reasons may be to get rid of it.  Like for possible expiration dates or food spoilage.  A savings from the store is not realized until you make it happen at the register.   

Even if one used their card to buy , lets say some wine that was listed for sale.  That doesnt mean the price will be discounted at the register.   One thing or another can happen to make sure you dont get that discount.  Stuff I wouldnt put it past these stores.    And if they claim there was some mistake.  It'll be up to the customer to decide to buy it anyway, or leave it at the register. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 14, 2021, 07:07:30 PM
I didnt think of it until now.   A person using a loyalty card for their entire purchases is going to earn credit in the long run.   But for some items,  they wont let you get the lower price if you are already earning credit with your card for your entire purchases.

So some items will have a higher price for a certain time.   In the example with the meat sauce, Im guessing that Prego meat sauce is a hot item.    You can wait to buy it at the lower price, or dont use any loyalty card at all.   Or you can buy it during the "promotional offer" now and pay more if you are using your loyalty card for your entire purchases.   

I wonder how many other items are occasionally listed like that?  That may throw some people off into thinking that an item is on sale at a lower price ( for loyalty card members ) , when it isnt?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 15, 2021, 04:45:52 PM
FYI on Super Pola & Playero

Went shopping at both stores today.  Took note that Super Pola does indeed have certain items marked down exclusively for loyalty card holders.   The thing though, I dont think any of the stuff I saw marked down is anything to get excited about.   Definitely nothing I'd want.   But the point is, this time I got to see a few items discounted exclusively for loyalty card holders.   

One item I saw, the discount card showed that the offer expired in 2020.   Which leads me to question the actual sale price of the prego meat sauce in the pic I shared earlier.    Did they make a mistake with how they represented the discount price and the actual price?   

There were no loyalty card discounts in the produce section, the seafood or meat sections.  The liquor section one brand of wine.   So over all,  their loyalty program as far as immediate discounts are concerned,  it sucks.  Aint no real bargains to be had.   

Playero appeared to have zero loyalty card discounts throughout the store.    There were isles that had some items marked 10% off, but that was about it.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on November 15, 2021, 05:41:00 PM
I have found the prices at Super Pola are higher over all than Playero, I do not buy my booze at either, Super Super on Pedro is better. Playero also has more local products the same or better than imports. I can make a great pasta sauce for 1/3 the price of Prego.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on November 15, 2021, 07:22:25 PM
I have found the prices at Super Pola are higher over all than Playero, I do not buy my booze at either, Super Super on Pedro is better. Playero also has more local products the same or better than imports. I can make a great pasta sauce for 1/3 the price of Prego.

Sorry but I compared the prices in super super surf liquors, and most times, they have higher prices than the supermercados.
Anyways, when I want exclusive products, I go to liquormart or ocho santos in POP.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 15, 2021, 08:11:53 PM
As it is, both stores have certain items that are cheaper than the other.   Several areas where Playero excels is in their variety of certain items.  Decent amount of imported stock.  Playero excels when it comes to household supplies, automotive supplies and general hardware goods and appliances.   Also when it comes to natural/health foods.    Playero does a good job of keeping their shelves stocked. 

At times, SP's shelves looks like a pandemic came through , causing people to buy almost everything in the store.   Try to buy bottled water in SP.  You'll be lucky to find what you are looking for, and enough on hand to buy.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dothedamthing on November 17, 2021, 08:34:57 AM
I don't go looking for deals and I buy what I want regardless if it is on sale or not. But my last trip to the store I was surprised by the discount from promo and points used. Playero marked discounts are always a mess so I just scan my card more so for the points and any possible discounts. If you have Playero points they need to be redeemed by the end of the year because they do not accumulate beyond one year. Here is a receipt from Super Pola from the other day. Used my card and got some discounts and a promo. Like I suggested If you are in country enough it's worth while to get something back from a place that wants to always take.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on November 17, 2021, 05:08:52 PM
I don't go looking for deals and I buy what I want regardless if it is on sale or not. But my last trip to the store I was surprised by the discount from promo and points used. Playero marked discounts are always a mess so I just scan my card more so for the points and any possible discounts. If you have Playero points they need to be redeemed by the end of the year because they do not accumulate beyond one year. Here is a receipt from Super Pola from the other day. Used my card and got some discounts and a promo. Like I suggested If you are in country enough it's worth while to get something back from a place that wants to always take.
Thats good information.    It's time for me to redeem my points at both stores.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 20, 2021, 05:53:12 AM
Ok Sirs  Exhibit A   Would you call tihs chica  Thick fat or a whale?  is this type of chica that you see more now, than in the past   has Sosua gone down hill  Disclaimer  Foto  Caribbean Cupid
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiChulo7 on November 20, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Ok Sirs  Exhibit A   Would you call tihs chica  Thick fat or a whale?  is this type of chica that you see more now, than in the past   has Sosua gone down hill  Disclaimer  Foto  Caribbean Cupid

Eewww
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on November 20, 2021, 10:59:37 AM
Ok Sirs  Exhibit A   Would you call tihs chica  Thick fat or a whale?  is this type of chica that you see more now, than in the past   has Sosua gone down hill  Disclaimer  Foto  Caribbean Cupid

I'd call that a thick fat whale with a sprinkle of rattitude.

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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on November 20, 2021, 11:05:42 AM
Ok Sirs  Exhibit A   Would you call tihs chica  Thick fat or a whale?  is this type of chica that you see more now, than in the past   has Sosua gone down hill  Disclaimer  Foto  Caribbean Cupid

Papi Viejo would say that your post is bullshit. That you have an hidden agenda. That Sosua is a paradise, with full of baddies that you can have for 2000 pesos.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on November 20, 2021, 11:36:26 AM
Ok Sirs  Exhibit A   Would you call tihs chica  Thick fat or a whale?  is this type of chica that you see more now, than in the past   has Sosua gone down hill  Disclaimer  Foto  Caribbean Cupid

You really don’t see chicas like this on the stroll in the Su. Maybe 1 in 10 realistically that are hoping to score a monger with a fetish. 🤷🏾‍♂️
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on November 20, 2021, 12:21:02 PM
Truth...in an ocean of lies.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on November 20, 2021, 01:50:41 PM
" I DON'T WANT HER, YOU CAN HAVE HER, SHE'S TOO FAT FOR ME" , as the old song goes,lol.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on November 20, 2021, 02:02:49 PM
Seriously though, she is 30lbs. past chubby.
Title: best price for liquor and wine
Post by: vacationtime on April 11, 2022, 10:14:52 AM
looking for a place with the best price for liquor and wine in sosua or POP. saw liquor mart and ocho santos in POP mentioned in an old thread. any updated info will be helpful. plan on doing some parties and will need tequila, wine. coffee tequila and vodka. thanks for the advice in advance
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: CCmcmuffin on April 11, 2022, 07:42:22 PM
Hi guys new user here I just want to give my observations of the strip in sosua just a little history of myself I have been coming to Dominican Republic for about 10 years I speak fairly strong fluent Spanish I have been to a lot of the cities and I have seen sosua when it was really good now I know a lot of you keep saying that sosua is not as good as it used to be I agree it's not but I was just there literally the last five days there was a lot of selection of girls yes there are girls that are not attractive and there are those that are and a lot of the girls have big fake asses and you have to watch out for the hustlers and the scammers and even the Haitians have gone down a little bit in their quality and they're hustling but I will say this I had a great time I wasn't just there to get girls I was there to also meet people I knew and increase my Spanish and creole I speak both you can do a lot better with the Haitians if you speak Creole anyway overall it was a nice time it can be fun if you know how to do it and stop comparing it to how it was 2 months ago or 2 years ago just go with an open mind and enjoy it for what it is. I also want to add for all of you that keep complaining that there are too many black Americans there yes there is a lot more black Americans there compared to how it used to be I'm American I'm White I have no issue with it they do bring a different vibe and a different culture by the way I grew up in a black neighborhood I'm actually Italian and Cuban so I consider myself White but I don't really care they don't mess up my flow they're cool people yes I see the New York guys and all that and they do their own thing with the money but I don't really care theyre not going to mess up my time because I speak Spanish and Creole that is the key I meet girls throughout my walks about town and I engage in conversations with them not just street chicks anyway just my opinion I'm not some kind of naysayer or trying to pump up sosua I'm neutral I enjoy it I enjoy the country thnx guys
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on April 11, 2022, 08:27:58 PM
Thanks Pink
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 11, 2022, 09:44:45 PM
Hi guys new user here I just want to give my observations of the strip in sosua just a little history of myself I have been coming to Dominican Republic for about 10 years I speak fairly strong fluent Spanish I have been to a lot of the cities and I have seen sosua when it was really good now I know a lot of you keep saying that sosua is not as good as it used to be I agree it's not but I was just there literally the last five days there was a lot of selection of girls yes there are girls that are not attractive and there are those that are and a lot of the girls have big fake asses and you have to watch out for the hustlers and the scammers and even the Haitians have gone down a little bit in their quality and they're hustling but I will say this I had a great time I wasn't just there to get girls I was there to also meet people I knew and increase my Spanish and creole I speak both you can do a lot better with the Haitians if you speak Creole anyway overall it was a nice time it can be fun if you know how to do it and stop comparing it to how it was 2 months ago or 2 years ago just go with an open mind and enjoy it for what it is. I also want to add for all of you that keep complaining that there are too many black Americans there yes there is a lot more black Americans there compared to how it used to be I'm American I'm White I have no issue with it they do bring a different vibe and a different culture by the way I grew up in a black neighborhood I'm actually Italian and Cuban so I consider myself White but I don't really care they don't mess up my flow they're cool people yes I see the New York guys and all that and they do their own thing with the money but I don't really care theyre not going to mess up my time because I speak Spanish and Creole that is the key I meet girls throughout my walks about town and I engage in conversations with them not just street chicks anyway just my opinion I'm not some kind of naysayer or trying to pump up sosua I'm neutral I enjoy it I enjoy the country thnx guys
Welcome to TMTBS,,   Yes sosuas not like the bad old days but still can be fun,  Good that you have a leg up and have been to other parts of the DR, bonus that you speak Keyloe and Spanish,, Direct communications and not being lost in Translation,, I prefere Haitians for the most part,,,  Other than that have fun,,,just remember chica proofing your room  good to go !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 12, 2022, 01:31:35 PM
Agree with Pink, Super Super has great selection and good prices.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on April 12, 2022, 01:36:50 PM
can you be a little more specific about the location of super super. past europa or after europa?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 12, 2022, 01:54:13 PM
can you be a little more specific about the location of super super. past europa or after europa?

Can you be more specific as to from which direction you are approaching Europa?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 12, 2022, 01:58:53 PM
Ok, If you are at the corner of Pedro and DR.Rosen (Che Montreal and La Tiende, across Pedro) S.E. CORNER. Walk East ( 2 long blocks) just past the Banks (either side of the street) is Super Super.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 12, 2022, 02:01:03 PM
Hi guys new user here I just want to give my observations of the strip in sosua just a little history of myself I have been coming to Dominican Republic for about 10 years I speak fairly strong fluent Spanish I have been to a lot of the cities and I have seen sosua when it was really good now I know a lot of you keep saying that sosua is not as good as it used to be I agree it's not but I was just there literally the last five days there was a lot of selection of girls yes there are girls that are not attractive and there are those that are and a lot of the girls have big fake asses and you have to watch out for the hustlers and the scammers and even the Haitians have gone down a little bit in their quality and they're hustling but I will say this I had a great time I wasn't just there to get girls I was there to also meet people I knew and increase my Spanish and creole I speak both you can do a lot better with the Haitians if you speak Creole anyway overall it was a nice time it can be fun if you know how to do it and stop comparing it to how it was 2 months ago or 2 years ago just go with an open mind and enjoy it for what it is. I also want to add for all of you that keep complaining that there are too many black Americans there yes there is a lot more black Americans there compared to how it used to be I'm American I'm White I have no issue with it they do bring a different vibe and a different culture by the way I grew up in a black neighborhood I'm actually Italian and Cuban so I consider myself White but I don't really care they don't mess up my flow they're cool people yes I see the New York guys and all that and they do their own thing with the money but I don't really care theyre not going to mess up my time because I speak Spanish and Creole that is the key I meet girls throughout my walks about town and I engage in conversations with them not just street chicks anyway just my opinion I'm not some kind of naysayer or trying to pump up sosua I'm neutral I enjoy it I enjoy the country thnx guys

A white Cuban/Italian who speaks Creole to the Haitian girls you meet walking on the street who are not street girls.

Well done you!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Stones on April 12, 2022, 02:06:43 PM
@VLV,

Post of the year.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 12, 2022, 02:08:19 PM
Ok, If you are at the corner of Pedro and DR.Rosen (Che Montreal and La Tiende, across Pedro) S.E. CORNER. Walk East ( 2 long blocks) just past the Banks (either side of the street) is Super Super.

In other words, down towards Europa.

I will take my pedantic hat off for a moment... I buy a Spanish Vodka in Playero, its about $550RD for a 700ml bottle, triple distilled, I keep it in the freezer it's fine in a caesar. I usually grab some red wine and Prosecco there too, rarely spend much more than $600RD a bottle.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 12, 2022, 02:44:20 PM
Yes toward Euorpa. One of my favoritas loves Martini&Rossi red, the last time I got it at Super Super was about $6 (2020), made her breaded cutlets and pasta, 3 bottles, good fun!!!
Title: Re: best price for liquor and wine
Post by: crazy_canuck on April 12, 2022, 08:55:32 PM
looking for a place with the best price for liquor and wine in sosua or POP. saw liquor mart and ocho santos in POP mentioned in an old thread. any updated info will be helpful. plan on doing some parties and will need tequila, wine. coffee tequila and vodka. thanks for the advice in advance

No need to go all the way to pop ... the big playero has everything in your list and for cheaper than the super super surf.
Otherwise, Ocho Santos and Liquormart are still the MVP's
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on April 16, 2022, 02:47:45 PM
Thank you all for the advice . Much appreciated . Man can those Dominicas drink
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 16, 2022, 03:05:39 PM
Thank you all for the advice . Much appreciated . Man can those Dominicas drink
LOL!!! That's for sure, had chicas half my weight make cry uncle!!! To make it worse, they feel fine the next day! WTF!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on April 20, 2022, 03:08:02 PM
Received this from a friend via WhatsApp. The gist of it is that there are criminals operating in the country that are drugging and subsequently robbing people. Be careful out there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 20, 2022, 04:41:17 PM
It was a National alert, what district?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on June 15, 2022, 11:26:04 PM

2000 ST isn’t necessary. In almost two weeks one chica wanted 3000, I just walked away. They will take what you offer. Sheer desperation at this time. That could also be the USA soon. State and city pensions at severe risk. Think your job is secure?  I pray it is for all of you. 🔥🔥No way to stop inflation, it’s coming.🔥🔥  World’s smartest bank CEO, Jamie Dimon says even he doesn’t know what going to happen to our economy. For those other than Americans, sad to say if we go down you probably do too. Not happy to write this, but conserving cash is important in this economic climate.

Somebody give Raul67 a cigar.  He called it nearly two years ago.

It wasn't hard to call if you understood economics
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on June 16, 2022, 06:30:07 PM

2000 ST isn’t necessary. In almost two weeks one chica wanted 3000, I just walked away. They will take what you offer. Sheer desperation at this time. That could also be the USA soon. State and city pensions at severe risk. Think your job is secure?  I pray it is for all of you. 🔥🔥No way to stop inflation, it’s coming.🔥🔥  World’s smartest bank CEO, Jamie Dimon says even he doesn’t know what going to happen to our economy. For those other than Americans, sad to say if we go down you probably do too. Not happy to write this, but conserving cash is important in this economic climate.

Somebody give Raul67 a cigar.  He called it nearly two years ago.

It wasn't hard to call if you understood economics

True for Raul67 and Tug, but not you.  In fact, you were saying the opposite:

https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=13880.msg256440#msg256440

I never said the opposite.... slow guy
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on June 20, 2022, 06:33:53 PM

2000 ST isn’t necessary. In almost two weeks one chica wanted 3000, I just walked away. They will take what you offer. Sheer desperation at this time. That could also be the USA soon. State and city pensions at severe risk. Think your job is secure?  I pray it is for all of you. 🔥🔥No way to stop inflation, it’s coming.🔥🔥  World’s smartest bank CEO, Jamie Dimon says even he doesn’t know what going to happen to our economy. For those other than Americans, sad to say if we go down you probably do too. Not happy to write this, but conserving cash is important in this economic climate.

Somebody give Raul67 a cigar.  He called it nearly two years ago.

It wasn't hard to call if you understood economics

True for Raul67 and Tug, but not you.  In fact, you were saying the opposite:

https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=13880.msg256440#msg256440

I never said the opposite.... slow guy

You didn't have to say it explicitly.  It's called drawing an inference-- something of which slow guys are incapable of doing.

Stop digging.

Only fools assume
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on June 21, 2022, 05:51:35 PM

2000 ST isn’t necessary. In almost two weeks one chica wanted 3000, I just walked away. They will take what you offer. Sheer desperation at this time. That could also be the USA soon. State and city pensions at severe risk. Think your job is secure?  I pray it is for all of you. 🔥🔥No way to stop inflation, it’s coming.🔥🔥  World’s smartest bank CEO, Jamie Dimon says even he doesn’t know what going to happen to our economy. For those other than Americans, sad to say if we go down you probably do too. Not happy to write this, but conserving cash is important in this economic climate.

Somebody give Raul67 a cigar.  He called it nearly two years ago.

It wasn't hard to call if you understood economics

True for Raul67 and Tug, but not you.  In fact, you were saying the opposite:

https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=13880.msg256440#msg256440

I never said the opposite.... slow guy

You didn't have to say it explicitly.  It's called drawing an inference-- something of which slow guys are incapable of doing.

Stop digging.

Only fools assume

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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Azzman on June 21, 2022, 08:13:21 PM
Man this is so wrong on so many levels and I am not laughing I promise you bro!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: gymmydean on June 22, 2022, 12:44:25 AM
I totally agree!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 26, 2022, 08:52:36 AM
Current exchange rate in Sosua for USD to DR peso?   

Are people still getting ripped off by Banco Nacional ATM across from the Playero supermarket?   

Are the clinics in Sosua still open and giving Covid tests? 

Are people still expected to wear masks, inside of businesses, like banks, WU , Delancer , Claro etc?

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 26, 2022, 11:13:06 AM
Current exchange rate in Sosua for USD to DR peso?   

Are people still getting ripped off by Banco Nacional ATM across from the Playero supermarket?   

Are the clinics in Sosua still open and giving Covid tests? 

Are people still expected to wear masks, inside of businesses, like banks, WU , Delancer , Claro etc?
When i was there 3 weeks ago no mask what so ever think some of the satellite clinics  closed up but the main ones probably will give you a test albet it non required to leave pop   if you just want to be sure .think the clinic near the wu office will provide one
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Shisou on November 10, 2022, 10:14:21 PM
This one wasn't even a baddie...I was being nice with 4K too lol

Said she was from Sosua, which is weird because almost every chica I've met since I been coming here have been from either "La Capital" or La Romona

Needless to say, I stopped responding after this
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mr Back Shot on November 11, 2022, 03:37:10 AM
This one wasn't even a baddie...I was being nice with 4K too lol

Said she was from Sosua, which is weird because almost every chica I've met since I been coming here have been from either "La Capital" or La Romona

Needless to say, I stopped responding after this

No big loss, with her saggy tits and recycled dress.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on November 11, 2022, 06:56:28 AM
This one wasn't even a baddie...I was being nice with 4K too lol

Said she was from Sosua, which is weird because almost every chica I've met since I been coming here have been from either "La Capital" or La Romona

Needless to say, I stopped responding after this
I never hit but I met her on the beach and exchanged numbers.
After the last hurricane there, she started sending me pix of a house ruined by water… I blocked her lying, begging ass.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 11, 2022, 07:16:41 AM
For sure they send all kinds of fake pics to scam money out of you !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 12, 2022, 02:09:56 PM
According to a fellow monger, huntings been good. on DR rossen. this old duff is nocking them down  plenty of newbie fresh Hiaten chicas new to the game he quoted too many chicas not enough time !So there should be plenty of fresh toto for your next visit !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on November 12, 2022, 02:13:45 PM
Fresh hatian
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Rafael on November 13, 2022, 04:48:56 AM
I just returned after 3 weeks. I was concerned about the talk about quality of the Chicas I heard so much about. Facts quality is not post 2018, but not bad. So much talk about what women wear and looks. Well in America women don't get dressed up like they did in 2018 everyone dresses more casual, spandex and that type of attire is standard dress here. Yes, the girls are somewhat heavier, but that everywhere except Asia. Bottom line Brother's I had a ball plenty of pretty ones on the beach, clubs and on Pedro, tons of little flacas. I held the line at 3500 pesos and a few 4000, but they were worth it. Not one girl rushed the time, they all say an hour which usually turned into 2-3 hours. Just don't take the first girls, shop around use ur WhatsApp directory and if you do get that $150 walk away, there plenty more. All just my two cents, but I'm going back in 60 days. Just don't believe all the bullshit stories
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 17, 2022, 07:19:28 AM
Back home in Sosua.  9 month absence.   One thing I learned awhile ago when it comes to some friends, some family or some acquaintances.  If you want/need information you almost have to be there to see whats is going on or has gone, FOR YOURSELF.   You cant always depend on the aforementioned individuals to give up full details on past or current events.  A lot of people just dont pay attention, or care. 

While I was away, I asked several expat friends what the exchange rate was.  I kept getting answers of being unsure, or they had no idea.  I understand that some people may not exchange money that often,  but one should at least have an idea of what the exchange rate is, if they are living abroad.

I asked another one, how much is the price of gasoline in Sosua?  He said he didnt know.  Apparently he never bothered to look at what the price he was paying for gas at the pump.    He said he would go and check and get back to me.  He comes back and tells me the price of regular gas,  only???   I ask "How much is premium?"  Him :   "I dont know".   

If it was me, and someone asked how much is gas, I would get the price for at least regular and premium.  Just in case.  Now if they asked specifically about diesel, then of course I would get that price too. 

And this is a bone of contention I have with some people.  It almost seems as if there are more and more people that are slow when it comes to their thought process or decision making.   Reminds me of the post here on TMBTS of the guy who supposedly got lost in Sosua. 

Im like WTF, people live somewhere and dont pay attention to whats going on around them?   Im learning or hearing of more foreigners thinking of or have started businesses in the DR/Sosua.    A few have already came and went.  Failed before they got started.  WTF is wrong with some of these people?

Anyway, I have a lot to catch up on.  Sort everything out.  The essential and the non essential.   Meanwhile,  since Ive been back, Im trying to be proactive, getting stuff done.  Cancelled cable, and returned my boxes.  That will cut RD $1300 a month for an unnecessary service.   Need to look for faster internet options.  Only getting 20mb DL with Claro. 

Got my new marbate sticker for my vehicle before they get sold out, and then Id have to go to PP to get it.  Shopped at Super Pola, and paid with my DR debit card.  9 months ago, if I paid for my stuff with a debit card, you would need to insert it into the machine, and then enter your pin.   They upgraded their machines, it seems???   Because this time, I was able to just wave it over the scanner.   Purchase approved and no need to enter a pin. 

This may also mean, that since their machines have been upgraded, I should be able to pay with my phone using Samsung Pay, like I do at the Playero.   That would be a nice convenience.    Its gonna take some time to get acclimated to being back. 

My current observations to be continued.......
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 17, 2022, 09:48:28 AM
You got that right Murono yous got to be on the geound for the true sense of whats happening. FYI yester day 53% exchabge rate cambino next to old Rockys as far as the strip a good amount of chicas not all whales  some old pros and famila faces.  Some newbies as well, so Sosua is not dead  should be livley this week as chica looking for Xmass pesos !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: sosuasosua on December 17, 2022, 06:12:25 PM
Back home in Sosua.  9 month absence.   One thing I learned awhile ago when it comes to some friends, some family or some acquaintances.  If you want/need information you almost have to be there to see whats is going on or has gone, FOR YOURSELF.   You cant always depend on the aforementioned individuals to give up full details on past or current events.  A lot of people just dont pay attention, or care. 

While I was away, I asked several expat friends what the exchange rate was.  I kept getting answers of being unsure, or they had no idea.  I understand that some people may not exchange money that often,  but one should at least have an idea of what the exchange rate is, if they are living abroad.

I asked another one, how much is the price of gasoline in Sosua?  He said he didnt know.  Apparently he never bothered to look at what the price he was paying for gas at the pump.    He said he would go and check and get back to me.  He comes back and tells me the price of regular gas,  only???   I ask "How much is premium?"  Him :   "I dont know".   

If it was me, and someone asked how much is gas, I would get the price for at least regular and premium.  Just in case.  Now if they asked specifically about diesel, then of course I would get that price too. 

And this is a bone of contention I have with some people.  It almost seems as if there are more and more people that are slow when it comes to their thought process or decision making.   Reminds me of the post here on TMBTS of the guy who supposedly got lost in Sosua. 

Im like WTF, people live somewhere and dont pay attention to whats going on around them?   Im learning or hearing of more foreigners thinking of or have started businesses in the DR/Sosua.    A few have already came and went.  Failed before they got started.  WTF is wrong with some of these people?

Anyway, I have a lot to catch up on.  Sort everything out.  The essential and the non essential.   Meanwhile,  since Ive been back, Im trying to be proactive, getting stuff done.  Cancelled cable, and returned my boxes.  That will cut RD $1300 a month for an unnecessary service.   Need to look for faster internet options.  Only getting 20mb DL with Claro. 

Got my new marbate sticker for my vehicle before they get sold out, and then Id have to go to PP to get it.  Shopped at Super Pola, and paid with my DR debit card.  9 months ago, if I paid for my stuff with a debit card, you would need to insert it into the machine, and then enter your pin.   They upgraded their machines, it seems???   Because this time, I was able to just wave it over the scanner.   Purchase approved and no need to enter a pin. 

This may also mean, that since their machines have been upgraded, I should be able to pay with my phone using Samsung Pay, like I do at the Playero.   That would be a nice convenience.    Its gonna take some time to get acclimated to being back. 

My current observations to be continued.......     
Was there from nov30th to dec7th got 54.25 except sunday i got 54.00 I go in plaza next to banco popular next to m&m massage a couple stores down.And on sunday i use the guy behind the glass right hand side of street half way down the block to small playero store.As far as gas i dont drive there cabs and motos and mostly foot patrol.55.49 Dominican Peso thats todays rate not at exchange place online
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on December 17, 2022, 07:11:53 PM
As to the exchange rate. I got 54.5 at Caribe Express two days ago. I’m hearing that they are now paying 54.75. It’s creeping up almost daily.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 18, 2022, 09:28:27 AM
As to the exchange rate. I got 54.5 at Caribe Express two days ago. I’m hearing that they are now paying 54.75. It’s creeping up almost daily.
As of yesterday, Saturday Dec 17, 2022.  The exchange rate was posted outside of Caribe Express next to Super Pola.  It was 54.75 as you say Jazzy.   Before I left Sosua in March, I believe the exchange rate had slipped below 57.   And as time passed, it kept slipping.   If it stays in the 54 range, thats not too bad.   It could be a lot worse.   

Meanwhile other places I had traveled to,  their exchange rates rose to favorable highs for several months.  And eventually started a decline.   From listening, observing and experiencing, the inflation of goods and services has made it's presence felt worldwide.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 18, 2022, 10:04:57 AM
Living abroad has spoiled me a great deal.   The cost of living, goods, services and especially dining in the US, is ridiculous comparison to many other countries.   While spending 4 days in the states before getting back to Sosua.   Went out with a married couple ( friends ) to one of our favorite spots.  3 adults eating at a Spanish style restaurant.

This couple may go there 3 or 4 times a month.  They usually order the steamed clams as an appetizer.  2 orders cost $28.   This night no different.  They got their appetizers,  she ordered the red snapper fish veggies and mashed potato.  I had the grilled salmon, with rice, mashed P, veggie,  and my man had the same thing, except he didnt eat any of the rice.   Claims to be cutting back on starches. 

We ordered a pitcher of Sangria.  Of course that was full of ice.  Cost$ 36.95.   No water brought to the table, had to request it.   The staff are used to this couple ordering more Sangria.  So why bring water if they might spend more money on Sangria?    I find that I cant drink that much anymore.   So I had only one glass of it, and was done.   And that I consider a treat.   

Bill comes to $161 , plus $30 for the tip.   Im treating them, because these are my peoples, and I care for them.  But I would be lying, if I didnt feel like I just got bamboozled over a little bit of food, and liquid.   Left me thinking.  How do they drop that kind of money on dining there , without feeling ripped off?

I never spent any amount of money like that the whole nines months I was away from Sosua.  And even though dining in Sosua has gone up some,  I never paid that kind of money, except when I was treating a bunch of friends.   And that same food and drink can be found in Sosua.     I remember last year when I was in NJ at a pancake house.   The bill came to $158 just for breakfast.   The thing that drove the bill up the most was the 4 Mimosas that were consumed by one of the guys in our party of 4.   Drinks, especially alcoholic beverages can wreck havoc on a dining bill.   

Even then, I was disgusted by the cost of our bill.   Same year I was in Chicago at a Cheesecake Factory.   Two of us.  We each had turkey burgers, one coke, one glass of sangria.....2 desserts to go.  Grand total, $115 plus tip.

Gottdamn.  Imagine what it must be like on a date and spending that kind of money on some chick you are just getting to know?    Well I can truly say.  Living abroad, but not in Sosua for nine months, dining out was a major relief economically ( until I got to the states ).   

A massage was under $7.  Pedicure $5.    Whats the cost of a massage or pedicure in the US?   Plus in the US them muggs want that tip, or they might get upset. 

Now dont get me wrong.  I am not poor by any means.  I can afford to live well above my current level, but choose to balance being conservative along with my vices and indulgences.   Its just that being retired and living abroad has given me more reason to respect being more thoughtful when it comes to how to manage my money.   Keeping value and quality in mind.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on December 18, 2022, 10:34:54 AM
Back home in Sosua.  9 month absence.   One thing I learned awhile ago when it comes to some friends, some family or some acquaintances.  If you want/need information you almost have to be there to see whats is going on or has gone, FOR YOURSELF.   You cant always depend on the aforementioned individuals to give up full details on past or current events.  A lot of people just dont pay attention, or care. 

While I was away, I asked several expat friends what the exchange rate was.  I kept getting answers of being unsure, or they had no idea.  I understand that some people may not exchange money that often,  but one should at least have an idea of what the exchange rate is, if they are living abroad.

I asked another one, how much is the price of gasoline in Sosua?  He said he didnt know.  Apparently he never bothered to look at what the price he was paying for gas at the pump.    He said he would go and check and get back to me.  He comes back and tells me the price of regular gas,  only???   I ask "How much is premium?"  Him :   "I dont know".   

If it was me, and someone asked how much is gas, I would get the price for at least regular and premium.  Just in case.  Now if they asked specifically about diesel, then of course I would get that price too. 

And this is a bone of contention I have with some people.  It almost seems as if there are more and more people that are slow when it comes to their thought process or decision making.   Reminds me of the post here on TMBTS of the guy who supposedly got lost in Sosua. 

Im like WTF, people live somewhere and dont pay attention to whats going on around them?   Im learning or hearing of more foreigners thinking of or have started businesses in the DR/Sosua.    A few have already came and went.  Failed before they got started.  WTF is wrong with some of these people?

Anyway, I have a lot to catch up on.  Sort everything out.  The essential and the non essential.   Meanwhile,  since Ive been back, Im trying to be proactive, getting stuff done.  Cancelled cable, and returned my boxes.  That will cut RD $1300 a month for an unnecessary service.   Need to look for faster internet options.  Only getting 20mb DL with Claro. 

Got my new marbate sticker for my vehicle before they get sold out, and then Id have to go to PP to get it.  Shopped at Super Pola, and paid with my DR debit card.  9 months ago, if I paid for my stuff with a debit card, you would need to insert it into the machine, and then enter your pin.   They upgraded their machines, it seems???   Because this time, I was able to just wave it over the scanner.   Purchase approved and no need to enter a pin. 

This may also mean, that since their machines have been upgraded, I should be able to pay with my phone using Samsung Pay, like I do at the Playero.   That would be a nice convenience.    Its gonna take some time to get acclimated to being back. 

My current observations to be continued.......

C'mon Murano. lets keep it a bean.  Most Su pats are concerned with only one thing:  Where the Hoes at??? Again everyone knews where to find the hoes especially dudes on this board and this board stays heavily on topic.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 18, 2022, 01:13:54 PM
You got that right Murono yous got to be on the geound for the true sense of whats happening. FYI yester day 53% exchabge rate cambino next to old Rockys as far as the strip a good amount of chicas not all whales  some old pros and famila faces.  Some newbies as well, so Sosua is not dead  should be livley this week as chica looking for Xmass pesos !
Found out one of my Haitian regulars got deported back to Haiti.  I feel bad for her.  Her children and some of her other family are still here in the DR.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Newyorkny on December 18, 2022, 01:45:12 PM
Murano do you mind me asking how old you are and when you hit a certain age do you plan on returning to states for better medical services and doctors or gona ride it out there??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on December 18, 2022, 02:31:18 PM
Hi Murano, look forward to your on the ground opions of Sosua. I just spent the month of Nov. in Punta Cana ( with a long time chica friend from POP), had a great time. We were both supprised that prices in Punta Cana are on average 50% more than the North coast.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 19, 2022, 08:39:04 AM

Found out one of my Haitian regulars got deported back to Haiti.  I feel bad for her.  Her children and some of her other family are still here in the DR.
Didnt take long.  I knew it was coming.   Ive been gone from Sosua for over 9 months.  And this chick, who I consider an infrequent regular,  hasnt done anything for me the whole time I was gone.  In all fairness, neither have I done anything for her.   

One would think that in the last 9 months she should have a ton of regulars at her disposal to help with financial matters.  Maybe even a savings plan.   The girl had some good juice.  If I found it delightful, Im sure many others did as well.  So I gather that she has to have a roster of guys other than me, holding her down before she got deported.   

I dont think anybody found any dead skeletons of chicas of mine , that died from my lack of financial input for the last 9 months. 

Anywho....This is where the bond of familiarity rears its ugly head. 

It can happen with any type of local a foreigner encounters.   Frienship, business, p4p etc.    Familiarity with locals often leads to them expecting benefits , favors or being compensated even if they did nothing.  Same with referrals.   Referrals of locals often leads to costing the foreigner more, not less.   Many locals seems to adopt the understanding, that the foreigner will be ok with paying more, because they were referred to by someone.   That somehow that referral increases their value.  Thus warranting the local to be paid more.

In the states,  that concept works the other way around.   The customer that was given a referral, expects to get some consideration on the cost, and perhaps some assurance that whats provided will meet their satisfaction.   In most cases, the one providing the goods or services has the same basic understanding to live up to.  They would hope to garner more work from every referral.   Of course it's always wise to discuss and negotiate before assuming. 

In the DR ( and elsewhere ) locals tend to use the bond of familiarity moreso in their casual and business dealings , rather than offering and doing their best.  And building from that.   Relations between men and women, the moment a foreigner man ( or foreigner woman shows interest or vulnerability ( just from being involved ) , the scheming wheels get put into motion.   Operating like sharks,  they dont care how they come off, or how they are perceived.  They dont care , if their target knows they have other sources to rely on, and dont really need their help. 

They dont care if they offend or insult.   All they know is they have to try and see where it leads.   Persistence pays off when you are a local who has nothing to lose, and everything to gain from someone elses weakness or vulnerability.   Coupled with the knowledge or awareness that juice thirsty men have a hard time saying NO to a woman.  And love starved foreign women, are blinded by whatever.    Especially one with good juice or good dick, and lets you hit it the way you want.   With extras.

I dont have an answer to my regulars supposed dilemma.   I hope the other men that also hires her, will do something for her.   I will just wait for her to cross the border ( by any means necessary ).   When she is available, we may resume  where we left off.   With a mutually agreed upon barter and exchange rate in place.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 19, 2022, 10:09:02 AM
Murano do you mind me asking how old you are and when you hit a certain age do you plan on returning to states for better medical services and doctors or gona ride it out there??
I can offer you some feedback.   I have no future plan of returning to the states for "better" medical services.   IMHO, the best medical services for me starts with tending to my own health, rather than put it in the hands of so called experts.  The ones killing people daily with their drugs and treatments.

I refused it when I was working and living in the states, and Im doing without it while living abroad.   

Most of the people I either worked with, or were acquainted with, including hundreds of tourists I met right here in the DR, almost all of them are on some form of prescription medication.  BP meds, diabetics, Cholesterol meds, a whole slew of meds.   As if thats normal.  And not using any medication is considered abnormal.   

Years ago when I was working, my doctor tried to get me on BP meds, cholesterol meds.   I refused his recommendations.  Took matters in my own hands, and maintained my health.    Which did not make my doctor happy.  I had to lose him.    I also learned not to chase numbers.  Meaning,  not trying to be obsessed with meeting and sustaining certain test result numbers, that doctors try to impose on their patients.   And if they fall out of range, initiate prescribing drugs as the only remedy     And stressing over a result if its out of a certain range.   

Now when it comes to injuries sustained.   Thats a whole other issue.   However I look at it like this.  Im never going to choose to be in the states full time, just to get the best medical care if I get injured.   At anytime a person is traveling, they can be injured, and not be in their home country.   What are people supposed to do about that?   You deal with it as best you can.   I have health coverage in the states and the DR.   If I am able and feel the need to get back to the states for better medical, then I will do it.   

Self-preservation 1st and foremost.   If that fails, then call on the experts



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Newyorkny on December 19, 2022, 10:24:49 AM
Thanks for taking the time to reply
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on December 19, 2022, 04:51:43 PM
Short and sweet, unlike the previous.jajajajajaj
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on December 19, 2022, 08:33:30 PM

Found out one of my Haitian regulars got deported back to Haiti.  I feel bad for her.  Her children and some of her other family are still here in the DR.
Didnt take long.  I knew it was coming.   Ive been gone from Sosua for over 9 months.  And this chick, who I consider an infrequent regular,  hasnt done anything for me the whole time I was gone.  In all fairness, neither have I done anything for her.   

One would think that in the last 9 months she should have a ton of regulars at her disposal to help with financial matters.  Maybe even a savings plan.   The girl had some good juice.  If I found it delightful, Im sure many others did as well.  So I gather that she has to have a roster of guys other than me, holding her down before she got deported.   

I dont think anybody found any dead skeletons of chicas of mine , that died from my lack of financial input for the last 9 months. 

Anywho....This is where the bond of familiarity rears its ugly head. 

It can happen with any type of local a foreigner encounters.   Frienship, business, p4p etc.    Familiarity with locals often leads to them expecting benefits , favors or being compensated even if they did nothing.  Same with referrals.   Referrals of locals often leads to costing the foreigner more, not less.   Many locals seems to adopt the understanding, that the foreigner will be ok with paying more, because they were referred to by someone.   That somehow that referral increases their value.  Thus warranting the local to be paid more.

In the states,  that concept works the other way around.   The customer that was given a referral, expects to get some consideration on the cost, and perhaps some assurance that whats provided will meet their satisfaction.   In most cases, the one providing the goods or services has the same basic understanding to live up to.  They would hope to garner more work from every referral.   Of course it's always wise to discuss and negotiate before assuming. 

In the DR ( and elsewhere ) locals tend to use the bond of familiarity moreso in their casual and business dealings , rather than offering and doing their best.  And building from that.   Relations between men and women, the moment a foreigner man ( or foreigner woman shows interest or vulnerability ( just from being involved ) , the scheming wheels get put into motion.   Operating like sharks,  they dont care how they come off, or how they are perceived.  They dont care , if their target knows they have other sources to rely on, and dont really need their help. 

They dont care if they offend or insult.   All they know is they have to try and see where it leads.   Persistence pays off when you are a local who has nothing to lose, and everything to gain from someone elses weakness or vulnerability.   Coupled with the knowledge or awareness that juice thirsty men have a hard time saying NO to a woman.  And love starved foreign women, are blinded by whatever.    Especially one with good juice or good dick, and lets you hit it the way you want.   With extras.

I dont have an answer to my regulars supposed dilemma.   I hope the other men that also hires her, will do something for her.   I will just wait for her to cross the border ( by any means necessary ).   When she is available, we may resume  where we left off.   With a mutually agreed upon barter and exchange rate in place.




You're not wrong but there's almost no real industry or middle class in the DR. I offer a propina for refrerals. I guess I look at it from their perspective they give me their cousin or friend and she wows me then she just lost a reliable customer, Even if she wasn't aware of that after that happens a couple of times she'll take a Propina from the Monger and the Chica.

In return I get a possible non ran through and sometimes it's apperant that it's her first time engaging in P4P. I knew a chick who was a college student who did threesomes with her amiga she never expressed interest in dealing with me alone she seemed to be lead by her friend.

The Irony is that in the DR vs. Colombia debates everyone agrees that Colombia is "better" in all ways except one, The Flakiness of the girls. In the  DR I would be super offended if a chica in Puerta Plata didn't immediately hop on a bus to see me in Santo Domingo, In Colombia I have to accept that even a GF won't always be available
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on December 19, 2022, 08:37:49 PM
Murano do you mind me asking how old you are and when you hit a certain age do you plan on returning to states for better medical services and doctors or gona ride it out there??
I can offer you some feedback.   I have no future plan of returning to the states for "better" medical services.   IMHO, the best medical services for me starts with tending to my own health, rather than put it in the hands of so called experts.  The ones killing people daily with their drugs and treatments.

I refused it when I was working and living in the states, and Im doing without it while living abroad.   

Most of the people I either worked with, or were acquainted with, including hundreds of tourists I met right here in the DR, almost all of them are on some form of prescription medication.  BP meds, diabetics, Cholesterol meds, a whole slew of meds.   As if thats normal.  And not using any medication is considered abnormal.   

Years ago when I was working, my doctor tried to get me on BP meds, cholesterol meds.   I refused his recommendations.  Took matters in my own hands, and maintained my health.    Which did not make my doctor happy.  I had to lose him.    I also learned not to chase numbers.  Meaning,  not trying to be obsessed with meeting and sustaining certain test result numbers, that doctors try to impose on their patients.   And if they fall out of range, initiate prescribing drugs as the only remedy     And stressing over a result if its out of a certain range.   

Now when it comes to injuries sustained.   Thats a whole other issue.   However I look at it like this.  Im never going to choose to be in the states full time, just to get the best medical care if I get injured.   At anytime a person is traveling, they can be injured, and not be in their home country.   What are people supposed to do about that?   You deal with it as best you can.   I have health coverage in the states and the DR.   If I am able and feel the need to get back to the states for better medical, then I will do it.   

Self-preservation 1st and foremost.   If that fails, then call on the experts

I actually started taking BP meds when I came to Colombia but having said that once I retired I found it easy to take care of my health. I eat way better walk more run more and life more that helps more than any meds that I'm perscribed.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 20, 2022, 08:48:08 AM

You're not wrong but there's almost no real industry or middle class in the DR. I offer a propina for refrerals. I guess I look at it from their perspective they give me their cousin or friend and she wows me then she just lost a reliable customer, Even if she wasn't aware of that after that happens a couple of times she'll take a Propina from the Monger and the Chica.

In return I get a possible non ran through and sometimes it's apperant that it's her first time engaging in P4P. I knew a chick who was a college student who did threesomes with her amiga she never expressed interest in dealing with me alone she seemed to be lead by her friend.

The Irony is that in the DR vs. Colombia debates everyone agrees that Colombia is "better" in all ways except one, The Flakiness of the girls. In the  DR I would be super offended if a chica in Puerta Plata didn't immediately hop on a bus to see me in Santo Domingo, In Colombia I have to accept that even a GF won't always be available
Batman is not about me being right or wrong.   Especially since I spoke in generalities, without claiming where or who the referrals were coming from, and what they were for.   In fact, many of the referrals of locals I was thinking about comes from other foreigners.   And I was thinking more in terms of how recommendations/referrals are often shared regarding goods and services, but sometimes the person/local that is recommended, uses that referral to take advantage of the person.

Additionally, I wasnt particularly focused on referrals towards hooking up with chicas.   I was looking at it in a broad sense.   If a foreigner referred or recommended me to a mechanic, a car dealership, would I be offering them a propina?   Most likely not.  Point being, there are more types of connections and interactionss going on in the DR, than interactions with chicas.   

Here's some examples :   A well to do local who was a friend of mine, recommended a car dealership in La Vega.   Does that mean the dealer wasnt going to take advantage, because my friend brought me there?   No.  Inspite of friendship/acquaintanceship,  the dealer still saw it as an opportunity to take advantage.   

Not so much on the price but on other things.  Odometer was rolled back.  Dealer selling a private owners car on their lot.  Car was not to be sold because it came into the country tax exempt.   That was back in 2014.   I learned alot since then on how shady some locals can be when it comes to doing business.   Many people got got, buying or renting property that did not belong to the person representing themselves as the owner.   People say lawyers in the states cant be trusted, I believe the DR lawyers may be 10 times worse.   Get locked up in the DR, and see how that plays out.  Especially if you dont have your own trusted lawyer. 

I could be wrong, but didnt the attorney that TMD recommended and endorsed, overcharge guys that were pursuing residency in the DR?   That the actual process and cost could have been done a lot cheaper than what that attorney was charging?  How about those prepaid legal services?    Basically what Im getting at,  even if being referred to by another foreigner or friend,  a person runs the risk of being bamboozled or fleeced.   

Preserving a respectable reputation, doesnt appear to be the foundation for doing business in the DR.    The same goes for foreigners doing business in the DR.  Sooner or later they may end up being just as cut throat as the locals.   As an example, employers looking the other way if their employees are stealing from customers.   Over charge, incorrect change, adding items not used or consumed, etc etc. 

If thats how their employees supplement their income,  I think enough employers say, so be it.  Thats the customers fault for not paying attention.  They're rich, they can afford it.   That makes up for having to pay them more.   The only example of what I just described.  Is seeing employees still working at an establishment, even after they were exposed for stealing nd hustling customers.   Or finding these same people working at other places,  where it would be difficult to believe the next employer doesnt know the persons history working elsewhere, or why they left. 
 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on December 20, 2022, 09:10:47 AM
Murano do you mind me asking how old you are and when you hit a certain age do you plan on returning to states for better medical services and doctors or gona ride it out there??
I can offer you some feedback.   I have no future plan of returning to the states for "better" medical services.   IMHO, the best medical services for me starts with tending to my own health, rather than put it in the hands of so called experts.  The ones killing people daily with their drugs and treatments.

I refused it when I was working and living in the states, and Im doing without it while living abroad.   

Most of the people I either worked with, or were acquainted with, including hundreds of tourists I met right here in the DR, almost all of them are on some form of prescription medication.  BP meds, diabetics, Cholesterol meds, a whole slew of meds.   As if thats normal.  And not using any medication is considered abnormal.   

Years ago when I was working, my doctor tried to get me on BP meds, cholesterol meds.   I refused his recommendations.  Took matters in my own hands, and maintained my health.    Which did not make my doctor happy.  I had to lose him.    I also learned not to chase numbers.  Meaning,  not trying to be obsessed with meeting and sustaining certain test result numbers, that doctors try to impose on their patients.   And if they fall out of range, initiate prescribing drugs as the only remedy     And stressing over a result if its out of a certain range.   

Now when it comes to injuries sustained.   Thats a whole other issue.   However I look at it like this.  Im never going to choose to be in the states full time, just to get the best medical care if I get injured.   At anytime a person is traveling, they can be injured, and not be in their home country.   What are people supposed to do about that?   You deal with it as best you can.   I have health coverage in the states and the DR.   If I am able and feel the need to get back to the states for better medical, then I will do it.   

Self-preservation 1st and foremost.   If that fails, then call on the experts

I actually started taking BP meds when I came to Colombia but having said that once I retired I found it easy to take care of my health. I eat way better walk more run more and life more that helps more than any meds that I'm perscribed.
When you started taking BP meds, what were you trying to accomplish?   In other words what potentially bad habits or stress factors were the BP meds supposed to overcome for you?   And at any time did your doctor discuss with you, how your BP was arrived at whatever level it was?  Why was it high or low?   Was that explained to you?   Did the doctor explain any potential damage or dependency that can or may happen from taking BP meds?   

Point being, folks taking medications trying to meet some recommended number that doctors made up,  but not even attacking any root causes or addressing specific symptoms,  is asinine.    How many BP readings throughout the day, week and month were taken to make absolutely sure, BP meds should be the main solution to a potential health risk?   

Ive heard of people on BP meds who only had slightly elevated BP.  Started taking BP meds, because the doctor said so.  Doctors often con their patients by telling them, that they are gonna put them on a low dose, and see how it goes.   Then if it improves, we can reduce it or take you off.   Sounds good, doesnt it?  But it's all BS and a scam. 

They are only focusing on obtaining a certain number to appease a made up chart,  not concentrating on your overall health or wellbeing.  Its often one size fits all health care.    Same goes for cholesterol meds.   Get your cholesterol to this level.   Never mind that your body makes and needs cholesterol.   Too many doctors are drug pushers and numbers chasers.   Only a select few really care about a patient getting well without drugs. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on December 21, 2022, 12:24:40 PM

You're not wrong but there's almost no real industry or middle class in the DR. I offer a propina for refrerals. I guess I look at it from their perspective they give me their cousin or friend and she wows me then she just lost a reliable customer, Even if she wasn't aware of that after that happens a couple of times she'll take a Propina from the Monger and the Chica.

In return I get a possible non ran through and sometimes it's apperant that it's her first time engaging in P4P. I knew a chick who was a college student who did threesomes with her amiga she never expressed interest in dealing with me alone she seemed to be lead by her friend.

The Irony is that in the DR vs. Colombia debates everyone agrees that Colombia is "better" in all ways except one, The Flakiness of the girls. In the  DR I would be super offended if a chica in Puerta Plata didn't immediately hop on a bus to see me in Santo Domingo, In Colombia I have to accept that even a GF won't always be available
Batman is not about me being right or wrong.   Especially since I spoke in generalities, without claiming where or who the referrals were coming from, and what they were for.   In fact, many of the referrals of locals I was thinking about comes from other foreigners.   And I was thinking more in terms of how recommendations/referrals are often shared regarding goods and services, but sometimes the person/local that is recommended, uses that referral to take advantage of the person.

Additionally, I wasnt particularly focused on referrals towards hooking up with chicas.   I was looking at it in a broad sense.   If a foreigner referred or recommended me to a mechanic, a car dealership, would I be offering them a propina?   Most likely not.  Point being, there are more types of connections and interactionss going on in the DR, than interactions with chicas.   

Here's some examples :   A well to do local who was a friend of mine, recommended a car dealership in La Vega.   Does that mean the dealer wasnt going to take advantage, because my friend brought me there?   No.  Inspite of friendship/acquaintanceship,  the dealer still saw it as an opportunity to take advantage.   

Not so much on the price but on other things.  Odometer was rolled back.  Dealer selling a private owners car on their lot.  Car was not to be sold because it came into the country tax exempt.   That was back in 2014.   I learned alot since then on how shady some locals can be when it comes to doing business.   Many people got got, buying or renting property that did not belong to the person representing themselves as the owner.   People say lawyers in the states cant be trusted, I believe the DR lawyers may be 10 times worse.   Get locked up in the DR, and see how that plays out.  Especially if you dont have your own trusted lawyer. 

I could be wrong, but didnt the attorney that TMD recommended and endorsed, overcharge guys that were pursuing residency in the DR?   That the actual process and cost could have been done a lot cheaper than what that attorney was charging?  How about those prepaid legal services?    Basically what Im getting at,  even if being referred to by another foreigner or friend,  a person runs the risk of being bamboozled or fleeced.   

Preserving a respectable reputation, doesnt appear to be the foundation for doing business in the DR.    The same goes for foreigners doing business in the DR.  Sooner or later they may end up being just as cut throat as the locals.   As an example, employers looking the other way if their employees are stealing from customers.   Over charge, incorrect change, adding items not used or consumed, etc etc. 

If thats how their employees supplement their income,  I think enough employers say, so be it.  Thats the customers fault for not paying attention.  They're rich, they can afford it.   That makes up for having to pay them more.   The only example of what I just described.  Is seeing employees still working at an establishment, even after they were exposed for stealing nd hustling customers.   Or finding these same people working at other places,  where it would be difficult to believe the next employer doesnt know the persons history working elsewhere, or why they left.

I totally understand. The hustle culture extends far above the chicas and the dudes like Lionel.

That's the downsides to living in the DR you can't fully trust anyone you can never fully integrate into the culture but I put that down to an Island thing in General shit is basically the same in Jamaica.

The upside of living in the DR vis a vis Colombia is that the chicas are hustlers.  They come when called ones outside of Sosua generally try to spend as much time with you (as long as you understand that they're on the clock) In Colombia they scam gringos but they don't solict gringos in the same way (outside of Cartegena) and the Chicas have a "take it or leave it" approach.

I remember I had one chica in Colombia that I met in a bar come over to cook clean and f--k.  She did all three but she said I'll do it this one time but I just want to f--k only going forward.  Again not counting Sosua chicks I never heard a Dominicana said that.

I will say that although I really like Colombia being in Colombia makes you appreciate what the DR has to offer.


I think the key to living in the DR is to try to not buy anything in the DR.  Rent houses cars pussy and friends. The good thing is these things will be hevaily adverstised to you. I also appreciate the relative ease of buying imported things from the States.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on December 21, 2022, 12:35:41 PM
Murano do you mind me asking how old you are and when you hit a certain age do you plan on returning to states for better medical services and doctors or gona ride it out there??
I can offer you some feedback.   I have no future plan of returning to the states for "better" medical services.   IMHO, the best medical services for me starts with tending to my own health, rather than put it in the hands of so called experts.  The ones killing people daily with their drugs and treatments.

I refused it when I was working and living in the states, and Im doing without it while living abroad.   

Most of the people I either worked with, or were acquainted with, including hundreds of tourists I met right here in the DR, almost all of them are on some form of prescription medication.  BP meds, diabetics, Cholesterol meds, a whole slew of meds.   As if thats normal.  And not using any medication is considered abnormal.   

Years ago when I was working, my doctor tried to get me on BP meds, cholesterol meds.   I refused his recommendations.  Took matters in my own hands, and maintained my health.    Which did not make my doctor happy.  I had to lose him.    I also learned not to chase numbers.  Meaning,  not trying to be obsessed with meeting and sustaining certain test result numbers, that doctors try to impose on their patients.   And if they fall out of range, initiate prescribing drugs as the only remedy     And stressing over a result if its out of a certain range.   

Now when it comes to injuries sustained.   Thats a whole other issue.   However I look at it like this.  Im never going to choose to be in the states full time, just to get the best medical care if I get injured.   At anytime a person is traveling, they can be injured, and not be in their home country.   What are people supposed to do about that?   You deal with it as best you can.   I have health coverage in the states and the DR.   If I am able and feel the need to get back to the states for better medical, then I will do it.   

Self-preservation 1st and foremost.   If that fails, then call on the experts

I actually started taking BP meds when I came to Colombia but having said that once I retired I found it easy to take care of my health. I eat way better walk more run more and life more that helps more than any meds that I'm perscribed.
When you started taking BP meds, what were you trying to accomplish?   In other words what potentially bad habits or stress factors were the BP meds supposed to overcome for you?   And at any time did your doctor discuss with you, how your BP was arrived at whatever level it was?  Why was it high or low?   Was that explained to you?   Did the doctor explain any potential damage or dependency that can or may happen from taking BP meds?   

Point being, folks taking medications trying to meet some recommended number that doctors made up,  but not even attacking any root causes or addressing specific symptoms,  is asinine.    How many BP readings throughout the day, week and month were taken to make absolutely sure, BP meds should be the main solution to a potential health risk?   

Ive heard of people on BP meds who only had slightly elevated BP.  Started taking BP meds, because the doctor said so.  Doctors often con their patients by telling them, that they are gonna put them on a low dose, and see how it goes.   Then if it improves, we can reduce it or take you off.   Sounds good, doesnt it?  But it's all BS and a scam. 

They are only focusing on obtaining a certain number to appease a made up chart,  not concentrating on your overall health or wellbeing.  Its often one size fits all health care.    Same goes for cholesterol meds.   Get your cholesterol to this level.   Never mind that your body makes and needs cholesterol.   Too many doctors are drug pushers and numbers chasers.   Only a select few really care about a patient getting well without drugs.

You're correct and went I was first perscribed meds I was told by the Doctor that weight lifting would help and went I went back to him my BP was normal.

They don't say it directly but they certainly hint at Lifesyle changes really being key, less stress more sleep, and eating a Plant based diet instead of the standard Meat n' Potatoes US diet helps.

My Main issue is not being able to sleep especially not the required 8 hours straight of course I was perscribed a pill for that but I don't take it because I didn't like being doped up and I am retired now.

Hell when I was perscribed Oxycontin I had to go to "Pain school" where they explained that Pain was normal and your body's way of telling something is wrong and that total Pain elimination is not wise. And that unless debilitating that I would just learn to deal with it.

Of course the pills were administered by the VA so never let it be said that they're spending your Tax dollars willy nilly on Vets. Needless to say no more Pain Meds.


That being said Hypertension runs in my family so I want to watch it Apple Cider Vinegar and even regular vinegar works in a pinch.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on December 23, 2022, 07:37:17 PM
Yes Sirs your not missing much, just came back from playjero super market  strolled down Pedro Cilante yup its a skelton crew out some worn out die hards few locals expats and a few mongers in town. Dont think this year pre xmas was a bell ringer as far as hoards of chicas Any ways if you down here now perfect weather no rain. Also a few spots open for christmas dinner el conde accros from the bon icecream shop Teera linda , flip flops will have some thing as well Merry Xmass every one !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Newyorkny on December 24, 2022, 12:40:22 AM
Thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 07, 2023, 07:42:31 AM
Ive been back to Sosua for 3 weeks.   I see a few guys in town, that appear to be new expats.  The black guys are easier for me to discern their status, as opposed to the white guys that may be new expats.   Reason being, the black guys will have a pattern that may make it easier for me to pay attention to.   They dont appear to be just on vacation. 

Many white folks I see, are either on vacation.  Or Snowbirds, that may stay a few months and then go back to where they came from.   

All in all, the town has been very peaceful.  No one type of foreigner is dominating the town.  Although I would put a slight edge to seeing more white folks.   Many are represented as couples, and groups,  moreso than single mongers. 

The strip and most of the restaurants all around town seem to be operating as usual.  You can tell that there are a lot of options for people to choose from when it comes to dining.   I will tell you who doesnt seem to be doing well,  and thats Mosha on Dr. Rosen.   I could speculate into why, but I dont think Id be saying anything anybody else doesnt already know.   

As for entertainment in town.  I dont have a frigging clue of what the nightlife is like.   One night Ima get around to checking out Sosua Lights.   Too bad David, from Davids Plaza/2413 Sports Complex ( Owner of City/Sosua Lights ) shut down his spot across from the Politur jailhouse.   During the day,  I used to go there to play pool with the staff or with friends.   

This is January 7th, and I can see some chicas that were absent during the holidays are starting to come back to work/hustle.   Ive noticed a lot of new ( new to me ) Haitian chicas too.    Got somewhat high quotes for ST from two Haitian chicas when I was sitting outside at Kings.   One actually gave a price in USD.   I declined both.  I was just in flirt mode, testing the waters. 

IMO, some of these Haitian chicas can be just as bad as the Dominican chicks in terms of their $$$ expectations.   Once upon a time, a dude didnt even have to get the price straight with a Haitian chica.  The chick would be grateful just to get some business.  But now?   Many of these Haitian chicas are looking better, and feel they are in demand.   Plus, they are better coached on how to deal with men looking for pussy in the p4p game.   

The better looking some are, the more one can expect the chick to be looking to be paid more.  Another thing that may be more common, is Haitianas mostly wanting to do ST, so they can get back on the street, similarly to the Dominican chicks.   In other words, getting GFE with Haitianas is a hit or miss, depending on the chick, of course.    I think a lot of white guys in Sosua score GFE with Haitianas moreso than black guys do.   The Haitian chicks tend to seek the business of white guys moreso, than black guys. 

Mainly because many of the white guys I see, seem to seek having these women around them for extended periods of time.   That means more money.  Additionally, many of these men spend more time wining and dining them, and tending to their personal life issues.  Like taking care of them and their families etc.  Other reasons those hookups are more common may be the perception that each has for the other.   What white men represent to Haitian women, and what Haitian women represent to white guys that seek them out over Dominican women.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 07, 2023, 08:11:51 AM
Even though I have been absent from Sosua for a few months.  I noticed something about my feelings or perception of a lot of the Dominican chicas that come to Sosua.  I have developed a general distrust of them.  I dont trust in them in many aspects of the p4p game. 

I dont trust them in doing business with them.  I dont have trust in them when it comes to performing what they are getting paid for.   I dont trust them to not try to trick a client to hire them while they are on their period, or pregnant ( especially if it may interfere with performing services the client expects ).  In my presence, I dont like the attitude or behavior some of these women possess.  A lot are not very feminine or pleasant to be around.   Oh they may be attractive or sexy physically.   But sometimes vibing with enough of them sucks.   They know how to make a man lose interest in hiring them. 

I dont trust them from hiding other shit.  Like hideous scars, ugly body flaws, diseases etc.    That doesnt mean Haitiana chicks are exempt from the same.   It's just that I feel more distrust when it comes to Dominican chicks in the game.   

I have avoided a lot of that by sticking to a roster of regulars.  Many of them have come and gone over the years.   Those that are still around, still handle their business to my satisfaction.   Their main attribute is, they were not street walkers.   They worked low level jobs,  or were relatively discreet without being on patrol, even if they had many clients.    They could be trusted enough to not steal anything in your spot.   

And they werent greedy in their expectations.   In most cases, the costs of doing business was not discussed or an issue.   I like those type of chicks/arrangements. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 07, 2023, 09:51:49 AM
Went to the beach at least 3 times since Ive been back.   The beach reflects a post holiday vibe.  But it still is a great place to spend a few hours or the entire day.    At the beach this is where I observe a lot of folks on vacation.   Mostly white folks, in groups or as couples.    I like the non monger look/vibe that they provide. 

The beach is noticeably baron when it comes to the regular volume of chicas that usually patrol on the beach. A nice amount of Haitianas on the beach.   Many wanting business but you can tell that enough have a certain preference in the type of client they are looking for.    Of course at times, the need for making money trumps a chicks need/want for a preferred client.   Like yesterday.   I was approached by a nice looking flaca Haitiana.   I could have taken her number, but I usually prefer to do the approaching, not chicks trying hard to get some business. 

The good thing is, many of the restaurants that were thriving pre pandemic times, are still doing ok.    Jorge Mayra restaurant which was #64, they have moved to Big D's last known spot.   Which is #87.  Next door to Chulo's and Finger Fingers spot.    They still have their chairs/tables set up on the beach in the sand at #64, and they also have tables/chairs set up right in front of their new location ( #87 ).

The Tree House is still operating on the beach.   They have a daily plate special for only 250RD.  Its stewed chicken with yellow rice/beans, and a small salad.  Comes with a bottle of water.    So far one can expect that the prices of meals and drinks have gone up at most restaurants on the beach.   Also one might observe smaller portions.  And smaller containers/cups/glasses.   

A typical 1lb fried fish meal will be at least 850 to 900 RD.   I had such a meal at Mofongo King recently.   The fish looked less than 1lb, it only came with rice and beans.  Whereas before, a salad used to come with it.   I had a strawberry daiquiri sin alcohol, and noticed they didnt fill the glass to the top.     My buddy had the same with alcohol, but his was filled to the top.   To me, that didnt make any sense. 

My other go to restaurant,  they dont do that.  Each drink thats prepared looks the same,  with or without alcohol.   My fried fish meal was just ok at Mofongo King.   But Aris restaurant at #67 ( across from MK ) was excellent, that day.   The fish was cooked well, and I had a decent 1lb of fish.  And you got good portions of the sides ( rice/beans ) and salad.   A meal on the beach with a drink or two can easily cost about $1,300 to $1,500 RD ( that includes a propina ).   

From a frugal ( or cheap depending on how you look at it ) expats perspective, that may seem like a lot just for a meal.   But after what I experienced in the states, $1500 RD is a bargain.   $161 USD, plus a $30 tip for 3 people.   Then Im told by another guy that when he was in upper Manhattan, the Dyckman area their bill came to $160 for just two people???

So basically when I got back and was hanging out with the fellas,  the tourist prices were a welcome sight compared to the states.  Eventually I'll adjust back to my expat mode.   Where my daily dining out meals may be from 200RD to 800RD.    When friends come here for vacation, I usually spend a lot more.  On me and on them. 

Been digging on the fried fish at Fat Jessies spot on the strip.  The fish was tasty ( almost reminded me of catfish ) , the sauteed veggies was good, as well as their coleslaw.  They changed chefs,  so some of the food seems to be a lot better than I remembered.    Nice spot to chica watch too.   

And still,  make sure your bill is right, and you get the correct change.   Young dude working there gave me a bill, charging me twice for the same meal.   This is how many of them supplement their income.  In many cases, when shit like that happens, it's not an honest mistake.   But they leave it up to you,  to protect yourself at all times.   If you dont protect your own interests/dining experience, then whatever happens unfavorably may be due to your own input or lack thereof. 

Asking questions, and getting things straight with people that are serving you or providing services is a must.   Cant automatically assume things should turn out a certain way, or that people will exercise common sense or being thoughtful in your regard.   

I must say though on the positive.  Ive had several nice people advise me that I had dropped some money on the ground.   This is a bad habit of mine.  Mainly because I have things in my pocket with my money,  like a phone.  And when I pull the phone out, the money comes out with it.   So I need to secure the money in other pockets and/or at least look down on the ground every time I remove anything from my pockets. 

 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 07, 2023, 10:25:41 AM
All great observations Murono,
Im down here on a 30 day stay,  Beach is nice not a shit ton of chicas but a few to look at to pass the time of day mid week not too crowded,Im on local mode been buy my food at Playjero cooking for myself and regular non pro chica,its cheaper to cook your own food, howerver this chica will eat twice what i devour like its her last meal all good !  now being here many times 5 times ayear since 2013, you got that right 80 % of the street chicas suck lousy attitudes ,rushing you, sub standard service, over charging you,,  after awhile why even bother, Howerver Keen observations and a good eye for that newbie tenderoni.or a chica not from sosua, make friends with locals use the tella chica net work were a good repeat can hook you up to some Amigas, sisters cousins even granny too,  the other thing is the beggers hustlers pepole begging for money, a firm No gracious or respecto, after a while they will leave you alone carry on Sirs Sosua may not be good as the good old there there more to the Dr than low level run through street rats Enjoy !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 08, 2023, 04:15:57 PM
Good intel Morano, thanks for the update. My I suggest you get a money clip. I had the same problem of dropping money until I got one, mines about a 1/2oz. works great!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 08, 2023, 04:32:34 PM
Tug, I'm like you, looking for the new chicas in town. I found a good spot to do this on Thursdays afternoon  when they start coming in, now this place may not your cup of tea, but its a ring side seat. The Finish Line bar is across the road from a low rent chica Hotel. Yes it is a hotel (lololo), it just looks like a condemned building. Up the street from Super Surf Liquor store.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 08, 2023, 04:44:40 PM
Yes Sir all good. Think ill venture up that way got plenty of time on my hands ,The europa may be close as far as  a good smash pad !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 08, 2023, 04:49:26 PM
Bro, this place is not a smash pad, I wouldn't board my dog in it!! They don't even let gringos inside.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 09, 2023, 09:08:44 AM
Good intel Morano, thanks for the update. My I suggest you get a money clip. I had the same problem of dropping money until I got one, mines about a 1/2oz. works great!!
That is a super duper tip.  I should have been had one, several even.  I used to use a wallet with a money clip in it,  years ago.   Stopped using it.  But a simple money clip?   That is what I need.   Thanks.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on January 09, 2023, 05:59:50 PM
Tug, I'm like you, looking for the new chicas in town. I found a good spot to do this on Thursdays afternoon  when they start coming in, now this place may not your cup of tea, but its a ring side seat. The Finish Line bar is across the road from a low rent chica Hotel. Yes it is a hotel (lololo), it just looks like a condemned building. Up the street from Super Surf Liquor store.
Man please that place is trash and any chica that stays there is going to be garbage.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 09, 2023, 06:35:13 PM
Good intel Morano, thanks for the update. My I suggest you get a money clip. I had the same problem of dropping money until I got one, mines about a 1/2oz. works great!!
That is a super duper tip.  I should have been had one, several even.  I used to use a wallet with a money clip in it,  years ago.   Stopped using it.  But a simple money clip?   That is what I need.   Thanks.
If you're into money clips get a ridge wallet
https://ridge.com/products/aluminum-white


I prefer chain wallets myself.

By the way how do you get things shipped to you?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 09, 2023, 09:40:08 PM
Good intel Morano, thanks for the update. My I suggest you get a money clip. I had the same problem of dropping money until I got one, mines about a 1/2oz. works great!!
That is a super duper tip.  I should have been had one, several even.  I used to use a wallet with a money clip in it,  years ago.   Stopped using it.  But a simple money clip?   That is what I need.   Thanks.
If you're into money clips get a ridge wallet
https://ridge.com/products/aluminum-white


I prefer chain wallets myself.

By the way how do you get things shipped to you?
Them Ridge wallets arent cheap from that link you sent.  But check this out.   What folks may need to realize, a lot of merchandise is over inflated, especially stuff sold in the states.

I just went to the Philippine version of Amazon, called Shopee.   Typed in Ridge wallet, and I get a page showing me cheaper prices, than the link you sent me.   Some are also different manufacturers.   I dont care who the manufacturer is, just as long as it performs the same function.   

Lazada is another Amazon like website, in the Philippines. 

https://shopee.ph/The-Ridge-Minimalist-Slim-Wallet-For-Men-RFID-Blocking-Front-Pocket-Credit-Card-Holder-Aluminum-i.615704868.15126699308?sp_atk=967e00bf-9163-44c2-a0e9-6c8186e069aa&xptdk=967e00bf-9163-44c2-a0e9-6c8186e069aa (https://shopee.ph/The-Ridge-Minimalist-Slim-Wallet-For-Men-RFID-Blocking-Front-Pocket-Credit-Card-Holder-Aluminum-i.615704868.15126699308?sp_atk=967e00bf-9163-44c2-a0e9-6c8186e069aa&xptdk=967e00bf-9163-44c2-a0e9-6c8186e069aa)

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/the-ridge-minimalist-mens-slim-wallet-rfid-shielded-front-pocket-credit-card-bag-metal-ash-rfid-wallet-i3428291341-s17573069836.html?clickTrackInfo=query%253Aridge%252Bwallet%253Bnid%253A3428291341%253Bsrc%253ALazadaMainSrp%253Brn%253A0c85596a137c6fe087cd7540e5dbf5f4%253Bregion%253Aph%253Bsku%253A3428291341_PH%253Bprice%253A1000329250%253Bclient%253Adesktop%253Bsupplier_id%253A1000329250%253Basc_category_id%253A24040%253Bitem_id%253A3428291341%253Bsku_id%253A17573069836%253Bshop_id%253A499446&fastshipping=0&freeshipping=1&fs_ab=1&fuse_fs=1&lang=en&location=Overseas&price=1054.44&priceCompare=&ratingscore=0&request_id=0c85596a137c6fe087cd7540e5dbf5f4&review=&sale=2&search=1&source=search&spm=a2o4l.store_product.list.i40.24696363eac1gh&stock=1 (https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/the-ridge-minimalist-mens-slim-wallet-rfid-shielded-front-pocket-credit-card-bag-metal-ash-rfid-wallet-i3428291341-s17573069836.html?clickTrackInfo=query%253Aridge%252Bwallet%253Bnid%253A3428291341%253Bsrc%253ALazadaMainSrp%253Brn%253A0c85596a137c6fe087cd7540e5dbf5f4%253Bregion%253Aph%253Bsku%253A3428291341_PH%253Bprice%253A1000329250%253Bclient%253Adesktop%253Bsupplier_id%253A1000329250%253Basc_category_id%253A24040%253Bitem_id%253A3428291341%253Bsku_id%253A17573069836%253Bshop_id%253A499446&fastshipping=0&freeshipping=1&fs_ab=1&fuse_fs=1&lang=en&location=Overseas&price=1054.44&priceCompare=&ratingscore=0&request_id=0c85596a137c6fe087cd7540e5dbf5f4&review=&sale=2&search=1&source=search&spm=a2o4l.store_product.list.i40.24696363eac1gh&stock=1) 

Here in the DR, I am a member of several courier services.  Each courier service gives it's members a Miami address to use.   So when you shop online, you use your Miami address for delivery purposes.  Within your address is a code which identifies where your package goes after it leaves customs in Santo Domingo.   

On their websites, one can track their packages.  When ready for pickup in Sosua ( or wherever the package is supposed to go in the DR ) , you will get a notification to your phone and/or by email.   For most packages, you pay the courier based on the weight.  Each courier service has a rate per pound chart.  That means the heavier the package, the higher the cost you pay.

So that means one needs to be very careful in shipping something that is very heavy.  Because in some cases, the cost to ship the item might cost more than the item itself.   Also, certain electronic items like cell phones are taxed in customs at a much higher rate.   For instance, a $900 cell phone could easily be assessed $16,000 RD by DR customs.   

So an alternative to avoiding that is to buy these things when one is back in the states ( or wherever they are from )  or get somebody to bring it to you.   Ive had two premium phones brought to me in 2020 by 2 different people.  And now, Im waiting for a Pixel 7 Pro coming in a couple of weeks.     

Also one needs to know the policy of these courier services.  What you can ship with them, and what you cant.   Some car parts some of them wont ship.   Certain items that may be flammable or corrosive they may not ship.   Some places may not accept debit or credit cards to be shipped.  Others that do ship them, those credit and debit cards may take longer than regular packages to arrive.  Like 2 to 3 weeks.   

When in the Philippines, I order from Amazon, Shopee , Lazada and others.   All items are delivered directly to my door.   The shipping cost with the Philippine online stores is usually dirt cheap compared to US shipping.   Shipping costs in the US often comes with sales tax added.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 09, 2023, 09:58:56 PM
The DR courier/carriers by name.  1. EPS  2.  BM Cargo.  3. Pick n Send.  4. Encargopac  5. CPS   6. Liberty Express.   All of these are in Sosua.     

Then there is Domex.  Domex is in Puerto Plata.   The value of having Domex,  is that Domex is the courier service the US Embassy in Santo Domingo uses/recommends for transporting official documents back and forth to their location.   I used Domex when I renewed my US passport in 2020,  right here in the DR.  All by mail.   Took only 3 weeks.   Domex can be used just like the others for shipping packages.   

I need to check Domex's policy on shipping credit/debit cards.   Im assuming they probably do, since they transport other sensitive, valuable documents. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 09, 2023, 10:21:43 PM
It's Monday January 9th, 2023.   Got together with some guys, and went to Mango Tropical restaurant, on Alejo Martinez.   Right next door to El Conde restaurant.   Across the street is Bon Ice Cream, and next door is the Claro office. 

The food was excellent.  Everybody enjoyed what they ordered.  3 guys had steaks, I had an Mango Angus burger.  I also ordered barbeque wings as an appetizer.   Asked for the bbq sauce on the side.  To my surprise, the wings were great without the sauce.  I ate a few of the fries that came with the burger, and I enjoyed them too.  Sometimes fries are not worth bothering with.  But these fries were worth eating.   

The steak guys had access to the salad bar downstairs.   Oh yeah, the restaurant has two stories.  It was very cozy upstairs.  One of the guys said, they play R&B music on a particular night.   The owner ( appeared to be American or Canadian ) was upstairs with some guests/friends.   Came over to us and got us an extra table, even before he knew we had a 5th guy coming to join us.   I thought that was cool.

Food was good for everybody.  Ambiance was nice.  They have 4 or 5 attractive young ladies working there.
One of them I thought was very attractive/friendly.  Tall, about 5' 9" with a sort of sandy blonde curly doo.   Tight white jeans.     

They have desserts too.  None of us had any tonight.  But one guy said he had the 6 layer chocolate cake a few weeks ago, and it was good.    I intend to try the cheesecake, hopefully soon.    My Angus Burger meal, my wings, and passion fruit juice came to just under $1300 RD.  18% tax was in the bill.   That was about $174 RD.   My bill was under $24 USD.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 09, 2023, 10:36:08 PM
Passed by Caribe Express today by Super Pola.   The exchange rate was 56.00 RD to 1 USD.    An improvement from them posting 55.10 outside a little more than a week ago.   

It's possible that WU or the guy in the back of Plaza Colonial ( near Banco Popular ) may offer slightly more than 56.00 to 1???     Im almost certain, one can get a better rate in parts of Santiago or Santo Domingo.   Sosua seems to always be slightly lower than the national rate.   

Last week,  I made my usual ATM withdrawals at Banco Nacional in Puerto Plata.  I got a good rate.  When I checked online with Charles Schwab, I got slightly over 56RD.    A reminder from the past.  August 2021, I recall the exchange rate was over 58RD in Sosua.   Before I left Sosua to travel in March 2022, the rate was hovering around 57RD and slipping.    So for the rate to be at 56 right now,  thats not bad.   It could be worse.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 09, 2023, 11:31:34 PM
The DR courier/carriers by name.  1. EPS  2.  BM Cargo.  3. Pick n Send.  4. Encargopac  5. CPS   6. Liberty Express.   All of these are in Sosua.     

Then there is Domex.  Domex is in Puerto Plata.   The value of having Domex,  is that Domex is the courier service the US Embassy in Santo Domingo uses/recommends for transporting official documents back and forth to their location.   I used Domex when I renewed my US passport in 2020,  right here in the DR.  All by mail.   Took only 3 weeks.   Domex can be used just like the others for shipping packages.   

I need to check Domex's policy on shipping credit/debit cards.   Im assuming they probably do, since they transport other sensitive, valuable documents.

Do you use Mercado Libre?

What do you need to renew your passport while overseas?  I knew it was technically possible but what are the steps?

Also you say you're a member of Courier companies what does that mean do you pay a monthly fee?

I know a guy in SD that uses Mailboxes USA there's probably not one in Sosua but have you or would you use it?

I haven't come across that here in Colombia.

I also have to have someone bring me a new pixel, I had one so I could use Google Fi  I lost my phone and was told that the Sim needs to be installed in the states. I need the phone for calling banks the VA and my old job a buddy claims he used Skype. What do you use to call numbers in the states that don't accept VOIP calls?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 09, 2023, 11:40:01 PM
The DR courier/carriers by name.  1. EPS  2.  BM Cargo.  3. Pick n Send.  4. Encargopac  5. CPS   6. Liberty Express.   All of these are in Sosua.     

Then there is Domex.  Domex is in Puerto Plata.   The value of having Domex,  is that Domex is the courier service the US Embassy in Santo Domingo uses/recommends for transporting official documents back and forth to their location.   I used Domex when I renewed my US passport in 2020,  right here in the DR.  All by mail.   Took only 3 weeks.   Domex can be used just like the others for shipping packages.   

I need to check Domex's policy on shipping credit/debit cards.   Im assuming they probably do, since they transport other sensitive, valuable documents.

I had ATM cards sent to Colombia and Charles Schwab sent a card straight to me free of charge.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 10, 2023, 05:27:56 AM
The DR courier/carriers by name.  1. EPS  2.  BM Cargo.  3. Pick n Send.  4. Encargopac  5. CPS   6. Liberty Express.   All of these are in Sosua.     

Then there is Domex.  Domex is in Puerto Plata.   The value of having Domex,  is that Domex is the courier service the US Embassy in Santo Domingo uses/recommends for transporting official documents back and forth to their location.   I used Domex when I renewed my US passport in 2020,  right here in the DR.  All by mail.   Took only 3 weeks.   Domex can be used just like the others for shipping packages.   

I need to check Domex's policy on shipping credit/debit cards.   Im assuming they probably do, since they transport other sensitive, valuable documents.

Do you use Mercado Libre?

What do you need to renew your passport while overseas?  I knew it was technically possible but what are the steps?

Also you say you're a member of Courier companies what does that mean do you pay a monthly fee?

I know a guy in SD that uses Mailboxes USA there's probably not one in Sosua but have you or would you use it?

I haven't come across that here in Colombia.

I also have to have someone bring me a new pixel, I had one so I could use Google Fi  I lost my phone and was told that the Sim needs to be installed in the states. I need the phone for calling banks the VA and my old job a buddy claims he used Skype. What do you use to call numbers in the states that don't accept VOIP calls?

I use skype, i think i pay $3.99-$4.99 a month for unlimited calls to landlines and mobile in Canada, and I add some credit to call the states.

The only time it is a problem is calling a 1-800 number. That perhaps would change if I chose a US number for myself, never tried.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2023, 09:29:49 AM
The DR courier/carriers by name.  1. EPS  2.  BM Cargo.  3. Pick n Send.  4. Encargopac  5. CPS   6. Liberty Express.   All of these are in Sosua.     

Then there is Domex.  Domex is in Puerto Plata.   The value of having Domex,  is that Domex is the courier service the US Embassy in Santo Domingo uses/recommends for transporting official documents back and forth to their location.   I used Domex when I renewed my US passport in 2020,  right here in the DR.  All by mail.   Took only 3 weeks.   Domex can be used just like the others for shipping packages.   

I need to check Domex's policy on shipping credit/debit cards.   Im assuming they probably do, since they transport other sensitive, valuable documents.

Do you use Mercado Libre?

What do you need to renew your passport while overseas?  I knew it was technically possible but what are the steps?

Also you say you're a member of Courier companies what does that mean do you pay a monthly fee?

I know a guy in SD that uses Mailboxes USA there's probably not one in Sosua but have you or would you use it?

I haven't come across that here in Colombia.

I also have to have someone bring me a new pixel, I had one so I could use Google Fi  I lost my phone and was told that the Sim needs to be installed in the states. I need the phone for calling banks the VA and my old job a buddy claims he used Skype. What do you use to call numbers in the states that don't accept VOIP calls?
I renewed my passport while in the DR.  I can explain my steps while in the DR.  It's possible the steps to nenew may be exactly the same if one is in another country.   Just the mode of sending and receiving your documents back might be different.   

Here is the link to the US Embassy in Santo Domingo, with instructions on what one must send, and the fees. 

US Embassy Santo domingo, US Citizens 10yr passport Renewal instructions :

https://do.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/passports/renew-a-10-year-valid-passport-by-mail/ (https://do.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/passports/renew-a-10-year-valid-passport-by-mail/)


Online payment instructions for paying for passport renewal :

https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/607957567 (https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/607957567)

Here are some specific tips I recommend from my experience.   When filling out the application form for passport renewal ( DS-82 form ).   This form is completed online, and then you print it out.   It must be complete and accurate.  If not completed or accurate, this will delay processing of your application.  Or cause the application to be rejected.   

My 1st attempt with submitting my form, I forgot to complete a field in the right place.   Any section with incorrect or incomplete information could lead to the form being rejected.   The staff at Domex, examined my documents before sealing the envelope, they will use to send to the embassy.

Back when I applied for my renewal passport, the embassy did not accept cash, CC/DC or checks.  I had to get a cashiers check from Banco Popular in the amount of $6600 RD, made out to US Embassy Santo Domingo.   On the embassy website link I shared, the fees have changed, and also it seems one now has the ability to pay online.   I recall though, a person can still get a cashiers check from Banco Reservas even if they do not have an account. 

When I submitted my documents, my cashiers check was in the same envelope with my DS-82 form ( and other documents ).    So if one can pay online now, Im assuming one would need to print out proof of payment to the embassy, and include a copy of that with the rest of their documents to be mailed.   I will stop by Domex in PP and ask them the procedure for mailing if one pays the renewal fee online. 

2 passport photos also have to be submitted with your documents.  I got several taken at the copy place directly across the street from the Sosua Metro bus station.   Domex charges their own fees for their service of mailing and receiving your documents.   That can be paid in cash or DC/CC in their office.  The cost for them was a little over $1700RD.  It may cost more, especially since the US Embassy fees has gone up too.   The cost now for renewal is $7800 RD.   They claim the new charges, are due to the exchange rate. 

All in all, a person can just follow the instructions in the links I provided.   If you are in Colombia or any other country, then the instructions for renewal should be adjusted accordingly.   Here is the link for US citizens renewing their passports while residing in Colombia.  Instructions for payment and mailing is included.   Colombia uses DHL courier service, while the DR uses Domex as their courier service.

https://co.usembassy.gov/passport-renewal/ (https://co.usembassy.gov/passport-renewal/)

After looking at the instructions in Colombia's link to the US Embassy,  I think I found the answer to my question regarding online payment in the DR.   Which is, if a payment is made on the DR online portal,  print out and submit confirmation of payment with your documents that are going to be mailed to the US Embassy by Domex courier service.   

A note about Domex.  I recommend that a person establish their Domex account before going to the Domex office to inquire about sending documents to the US Embassy.  Because Domex will have to establish an account for you in your name anyway, because that is how the embassy will know where to send your documents back to you, and also for you to track your documents.    DHL in Colombia may do something similar.   

Lastly,  none of the courier services charges a membership fee.   They get paid by the items you have shipped.  Going or coming.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2023, 10:26:07 AM
Also you say you're a member of Courier companies what does that mean do you pay a monthly fee?

I know a guy in SD that uses Mailboxes USA there's probably not one in Sosua but have you or would you use it?

I haven't come across that here in Colombia.

I need the phone for calling banks the VA and my old job a buddy claims he used Skype. What do you use to call numbers in the states that don't accept VOIP calls?
I may need to look into Mailboxes USA.  See if their service might work for me?   Like offering me additional shipping services/options the others dont?   

For the most part, I have been using Google Voice for years, to make calls to numbers back in the US ( and that is when I am anywhere in the world, and I am on wifi or using local data ).  I have a US Google Voice number ( it's a VOIP number ).  And I also have my US cell number linked to Google Voice.   So calls to my US cell are forwarded to my GV number.   GV sends transcripts of sms messages, and notifications by email.   The messages can be read or listened to by signing into your GV website.   One can also place calls or take calls right from the website if they have a mic/speakers on their computer. 

Almost every entity in the states that require a contact number, I have my GV number as my primary contact number.  And my US cell# as my secondary contact number.   This way,  if an attempt to text me is necessary,  I will get the text.   

Now that I have T-Mobile, I dont have a problem using my US cell# as my primary contact number ( with my banks etc ) even when I am abroad.   Because T-Mobile service makes it easier to receive and make calls internationally.   They have really stepped up in the communication game.   

In other cases, I use my email as a 1st contact, when I need to get confirmation codes or messages.   If an entity will not accept voip calls, but will use my email to make verifications,  then that is what I will use.   Like Ally Bank.  Cant seem to get sms messages to my GV number through Ally.    In the DR, I have a landline phone with Claro.  So I can use that phone for calling numbers I think will not accept voip calls or send to a voip number. 

Additionally, I have a monthly ( $1,600 RD ) non binding contract with Altice here in the DR.  They give me a certain amount of minutes per month for calling, that I can use for the US.  And lastly,  since I switched to T-Mobile last year for my US cell# ( used to use AT&T ),  I can use T-Mobile.     

T-Mobile has international option plans for short term or long term.   It's called International Pass.   While I was abroad, I went to my T-Mobile account and bought the 30 day international pass for $55 dollars ( thats with taxes ).    You get 15GB of high speed data, and unlimited calling for 30 days.    My regular T-Mobile account is $50 a month. 

Which comes with a very limited amount of speed for data, but it's enough to use text messaging on your Whats app.   Outside of a plan, I believe making calls to the US, T-Mobile charges a per minute rate.    Since most entities I use accept calls from my voip GV number,  calling back to the US has not been a problem.    Any charges above my T-Mobile plan(s) gets paid because Im set up for auto pay.   

I have had GV for a few years.  And I do not pay any monthly fees that I know of.   I do pay for Google Drive cloud storage.    I do not have any GV calling credit banked.  But it might be a good idea for me to buy some just in case.  Especially if Im calling internationally to another country other than the US.   I am a firm believer in having backup options, for just about anything.  Backup is my middle name. 

T-Mobile's International Pass plans :

https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/international-roaming-plans/unlimited-calling-data-pass  (https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/international-roaming-plans/unlimited-calling-data-pass) 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2023, 10:49:07 AM


I had ATM cards sent to Colombia and Charles Schwab sent a card straight to me free of charge.
I had a buddy here in the DR on vacation.  He misplaced his Charles Schwab DC.  Found it the next day in a pants pocket.  But when he notified CS,  they had already cancelled it, and was processing sending him a new card.   The new card was sent to a courier service in PP, near the Metro bus station.   I think his card was shipped with FedEx.   

In my case, if it was an emergency, getting a CS card shipped by FedEx wouldnt be a problem.  My issue is when my banks start sending me new cards to replace cards that are about to expire.  The usual procedure is for them to ship those cards to the address they have on file.   For me that would be a UPS Store mailbox, since I do not have a physical residence in the states anymore.  I dont want that.  Mainly because I cant just up and go to the states just to get mail.   I can have my mail shipped to me, but its the DC/CC in that pile that I am concerned about.  DC/CC will be removed by my DR courier service, so it will be shipped separately from my other mail which is usually junk mail.   And it takes weeks to get the new cards to the DR and to me in Sosua.

So what I need to do, is figure out how I am going to get my new cards sent to me, on a non emergency basis.   If that means talking to a representative of that bank and telling them that my card was damaged, lost or stolen abroad, then that maybe what I need to do.   But 1st I have to make sure, that their policy will allow a card to be sent where I am physically.   

In some cases, a bank may refuse to send new cards to a location other than the address of the account holder on file.   And then insist that you get someone else to get your mail, and for them to send the new card to where you are physically. 

Your example and my buddies example regarding replacing a Charles Schwab card, that is reassuring.   Bank of America , Chase, Citibank, Discover?  Im not so sure they will be as flexible.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 10, 2023, 12:08:01 PM
Also you say you're a member of Courier companies what does that mean do you pay a monthly fee?

I know a guy in SD that uses Mailboxes USA there's probably not one in Sosua but have you or would you use it?

I haven't come across that here in Colombia.

I need the phone for calling banks the VA and my old job a buddy claims he used Skype. What do you use to call numbers in the states that don't accept VOIP calls?
I may need to look into Mailboxes USA.  See if their service might work for me?   Like offering me additional shipping services/options the others dont?   

For the most part, I have been using Google Voice for years, to make calls to numbers back in the US ( and that is when I am anywhere in the world, and I am on wifi or using local data ).  I have a US Google Voice number ( it's a VOIP number ).  And I also have my US cell number linked to Google Voice.   So calls to my US cell are forwarded to my GV number.   GV sends transcripts of sms messages, and notifications by email.   The messages can be read or listened to by signing into your GV website.   One can also place calls or take calls right from the website if they have a mic/speakers on their computer. 

Almost every entity in the states that require a contact number, I have my GV number as my primary contact number.  And my US cell# as my secondary contact number.   This way,  if an attempt to text me is necessary,  I will get the text.   

Now that I have T-Mobile, I dont have a problem using my US cell# as my primary contact number ( with my banks etc ) even when I am abroad.   Because T-Mobile service makes it easier to receive and make calls internationally.   They have really stepped up in the communication game.   

In other cases, I use my email as a 1st contact, when I need to get confirmation codes or messages.   If an entity will not accept voip calls, but will use my email to make verifications,  then that is what I will use.   Like Ally Bank.  Cant seem to get sms messages to my GV number through Ally.    In the DR, I have a landline phone with Claro.  So I can use that phone for calling numbers I think will not accept voip calls or send to a voip number. 

Additionally, I have a monthly ( $1,600 RD ) non binding contract with Altice here in the DR.  They give me a certain amount of minutes per month for calling, that I can use for the US.  And lastly,  since I switched to T-Mobile last year for my US cell# ( used to use AT&T ),  I can use T-Mobile.     

T-Mobile has international option plans for short term or long term.   It's called International Pass.   While I was abroad, I went to my T-Mobile account and bought the 30 day international pass for $55 dollars ( thats with taxes ).    You get 15GB of high speed data, and unlimited calling for 30 days.    My regular T-Mobile account is $50 a month. 

Which comes with a very limited amount of speed for data, but it's enough to use text messaging on your Whats app.   Outside of a plan, I believe making calls to the US, T-Mobile charges a per minute rate.    Since most entities I use accept calls from my voip GV number,  calling back to the US has not been a problem.    Any charges above my T-Mobile plan(s) gets paid because Im set up for auto pay.   

I have had GV for a few years.  And I do not pay any monthly fees that I know of.   I do pay for Google Drive cloud storage.    I do not have any GV calling credit banked.  But it might be a good idea for me to buy some just in case.  Especially if Im calling internationally to another country other than the US.   I am a firm believer in having backup options, for just about anything.  Backup is my middle name. 

T-Mobile's International Pass plans :

https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/international-roaming-plans/unlimited-calling-data-pass  (https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone-plans/international-roaming-plans/unlimited-calling-data-pass)

Thanks for the detailed breakdown, I got a years worth of medication from the VA through my buddy's Mailboxes USA account it was a huge box weighed at least ten pounds paid 11 bucks.

Same as the courier services Miami addess received in like 7 buisness days. I forgot what mall it was at but I think it was at Sambill Mall in SD They probably have a box in Santiago works like a P.O. Box.

Ironically I got to use another buddy's T-Mobile phone to call Ally to change my password.

This is things to keep in perspective Boats leave for Puerto Rico every day out of SD for a short shopping trip and you just told me of several courier services to the Island meanwhile big rich Colombia I had to pay 100 bucks to get one debit card Fed Exéd to me and the Fed Ex office was on the other side of town.

That combined with 95% of american foods being sold in Jumbo kinda makes the DR look good in comparision to Colombia.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 10, 2023, 12:13:48 PM


I had ATM cards sent to Colombia and Charles Schwab sent a card straight to me free of charge.
I had a buddy here in the DR on vacation.  He misplaced his Charles Schwab DC.  Found it the next day in a pants pocket.  But when he notified CS,  they had already cancelled it, and was processing sending him a new card.   The new card was sent to a courier service in PP, near the Metro bus station.   I think his card was shipped with FedEx.   

In my case, if it was an emergency, getting a CS card shipped by FedEx wouldnt be a problem.  My issue is when my banks start sending me new cards to replace cards that are about to expire.  The usual procedure is for them to ship those cards to the address they have on file.   For me that would be a UPS Store mailbox, since I do not have a physical residence in the states anymore.  I dont want that.  Mainly because I cant just up and go to the states just to get mail.   I can have my mail shipped to me, but its the DC/CC in that pile that I am concerned about.  DC/CC will be removed by my DR courier service, so it will be shipped separately from my other mail which is usually junk mail.   And it takes weeks to get the new cards to the DR and to me in Sosua.

So what I need to do, is figure out how I am going to get my new cards sent to me, on a non emergency basis.   If that means talking to a representative of that bank and telling them that my card was damaged, lost or stolen abroad, then that maybe what I need to do.   But 1st I have to make sure, that their policy will allow a card to be sent where I am physically.   

In some cases, a bank may refuse to send new cards to a location other than the address of the account holder on file.   And then insist that you get someone else to get your mail, and for them to send the new card to where you are physically. 

Your example and my buddies example regarding replacing a Charles Schwab card, that is reassuring.   Bank of America , Chase, Citibank, Discover?  Im not so sure they will be as flexible.

Navy Federal and USAA only ships to US addresses I found that out the Hard way when I lived in Kenya.

Same with my Chase Creditcards (non Sapphire rewards) and my citibank CC only US addresses.  I don't beleive it keeping huge balances in Banks but if you have a large amount in a big bank you might be able to lean on them saying that you'll take your business elsewhere.

The DR is starting to look good again.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2023, 03:15:59 PM
Just to clarify how most of the DR courier services work.   The courier service charges by the weight of the item.  Usually around $240 to $300 pesos per pound.   It's as simple as that. Items that are less than a pound may still have a minimum cost.   Exceptions to that,  is when the item is a cell phone, or some other item that is taxed at a higher rate.    At that point, you may have to pay the tax assessment, and pay for the weight of the package at your courier service.     

Shipping items not purchased, and with no invoice/receipt has to be given a value.  So an individual might need to go to their courier service to get help if they are sending an item to the DR.   I had a buddy that wanted to send a used HDTV to a chica in the DR.   My courier service had to get information about the item, so a valuation could be assigned to the item.  Back then, I dont think the TV was valued over $150 USD.   The courier service created a price/invoice so that the item could be shipped to Sosua. 

ANY item, even if it was bought online, if it costs over $200 USD ( tax included ) DR customs will assess a tax for that.   I dont know the exact cost.  But it could easily be an additional $1,000 to $1,500 pesos, for the assessment.   

A trick  that I suspect.  Is when you order several items at different times/days.   You would expect that their delivery will come separately.   Instead, you might see your packages get held up in Miami or in Santo Domingo.  Then if the total value of all of your packages ( to be delivered ) is over $200 USD, they then can tax you accordingly at a higher rate. 


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 10, 2023, 03:20:38 PM


I had ATM cards sent to Colombia and Charles Schwab sent a card straight to me free of charge.
I had a buddy here in the DR on vacation.  He misplaced his Charles Schwab DC.  Found it the next day in a pants pocket.  But when he notified CS,  they had already cancelled it, and was processing sending him a new card.   The new card was sent to a courier service in PP, near the Metro bus station.   I think his card was shipped with FedEx.   

In my case, if it was an emergency, getting a CS card shipped by FedEx wouldnt be a problem.  My issue is when my banks start sending me new cards to replace cards that are about to expire.  The usual procedure is for them to ship those cards to the address they have on file.   For me that would be a UPS Store mailbox, since I do not have a physical residence in the states anymore.  I dont want that.  Mainly because I cant just up and go to the states just to get mail.   I can have my mail shipped to me, but its the DC/CC in that pile that I am concerned about.  DC/CC will be removed by my DR courier service, so it will be shipped separately from my other mail which is usually junk mail.   And it takes weeks to get the new cards to the DR and to me in Sosua.

So what I need to do, is figure out how I am going to get my new cards sent to me, on a non emergency basis.   If that means talking to a representative of that bank and telling them that my card was damaged, lost or stolen abroad, then that maybe what I need to do.   But 1st I have to make sure, that their policy will allow a card to be sent where I am physically.   

In some cases, a bank may refuse to send new cards to a location other than the address of the account holder on file.   And then insist that you get someone else to get your mail, and for them to send the new card to where you are physically. 

Your example and my buddies example regarding replacing a Charles Schwab card, that is reassuring.   Bank of America , Chase, Citibank, Discover?  Im not so sure they will be as flexible.

Navy Federal and USAA only ships to US addresses I found that out the Hard way when I lived in Kenya.

Same with my Chase Creditcards (non Sapphire rewards) and my citibank CC only US addresses.  I don't beleive it keeping huge balances in Banks but if you have a large amount in a big bank you might be able to lean on them saying that you'll take your business elsewhere.

The DR is starting to look good again.
So suppose those cards were lost or stolen while you are traveling?   They wont send a new card to where you are at physically?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 10, 2023, 03:40:11 PM
Tug, I'm like you, looking for the new chicas in town. I found a good spot to do this on Thursdays afternoon  when they start coming in, now this place may not your cup of tea, but its a ring side seat. The Finish Line bar is across the road from a low rent chica Hotel. Yes it is a hotel (lololo), it just looks like a condemned building. Up the street from Super Surf Liquor store.
Man please that place is trash and any chica that stays there is going to be garbage.
I'm not saying that dimes would ever been seen there. Only that new young chicas right off the bus from the campo can be found there. They are easy to spot, no weave, no nails, no spandex and little to no make-up.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 10, 2023, 11:59:20 PM


I had ATM cards sent to Colombia and Charles Schwab sent a card straight to me free of charge.
I had a buddy here in the DR on vacation.  He misplaced his Charles Schwab DC.  Found it the next day in a pants pocket.  But when he notified CS,  they had already cancelled it, and was processing sending him a new card.   The new card was sent to a courier service in PP, near the Metro bus station.   I think his card was shipped with FedEx.   

In my case, if it was an emergency, getting a CS card shipped by FedEx wouldnt be a problem.  My issue is when my banks start sending me new cards to replace cards that are about to expire.  The usual procedure is for them to ship those cards to the address they have on file.   For me that would be a UPS Store mailbox, since I do not have a physical residence in the states anymore.  I dont want that.  Mainly because I cant just up and go to the states just to get mail.   I can have my mail shipped to me, but its the DC/CC in that pile that I am concerned about.  DC/CC will be removed by my DR courier service, so it will be shipped separately from my other mail which is usually junk mail.   And it takes weeks to get the new cards to the DR and to me in Sosua.

So what I need to do, is figure out how I am going to get my new cards sent to me, on a non emergency basis.   If that means talking to a representative of that bank and telling them that my card was damaged, lost or stolen abroad, then that maybe what I need to do.   But 1st I have to make sure, that their policy will allow a card to be sent where I am physically.   

In some cases, a bank may refuse to send new cards to a location other than the address of the account holder on file.   And then insist that you get someone else to get your mail, and for them to send the new card to where you are physically. 

Your example and my buddies example regarding replacing a Charles Schwab card, that is reassuring.   Bank of America , Chase, Citibank, Discover?  Im not so sure they will be as flexible.

Navy Federal and USAA only ships to US addresses I found that out the Hard way when I lived in Kenya.

Same with my Chase Creditcards (non Sapphire rewards) and my citibank CC only US addresses.  I don't beleive it keeping huge balances in Banks but if you have a large amount in a big bank you might be able to lean on them saying that you'll take your business elsewhere.

The DR is starting to look good again.
So suppose those cards were lost or stolen while you are traveling?   They wont send a new card to where you are at physically?

nope home of record only. Believe me I asked
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2023, 07:41:06 AM
@Bat Man.  I believe your experience.  Imma see if I get the same info, from BOA, Chase and CitiBank.  Ya never know, a lone representative ( like a supervisor ) may have or know a favorable loop hole, that they can offer.   Or I get lucky and catch a rep slipping.

My next idea is to check with Domex in Puerto Plata, or another courier service in the DR that has no problem accepting and shipping sensitive documents , like DC/CCs.   Domex is used and relied on by the US Embassy for shipping passports, maybe DC/CC is not a problem either?   

Although I think the real problem with DC/CC shipping happens with customs in Santo Domingo, not with the courier service itself.  It might be forbidden to ship financial documents/cards unless it's done through a secure system.   

My 3rd option is to forward my mail from my UPS Store mailbox to a friend's address.  Preferably with one that is coming to the DR in time for me to activate those cards.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2023, 02:39:39 PM
THE TREE HOUSE IS CLOSED
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on January 11, 2023, 04:24:17 PM
THE TREE HOUSE IS CLOSED

Is this permanent and if so do you know if it's because a lack of tourist/ customers which I doubt as that place was always able to draw a crowd. With the rumored changes coming to beach did he just decide to sell early and cut his losses or is it something else.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2023, 05:46:36 PM
THE TREE HOUSE IS CLOSED

Is this permanent and if so do you know if it's because a lack of tourist/ customers which I doubt as that place was always able to draw a crowd. With the rumored changes coming to beach did he just decide to sell early and cut his losses or is it something else.
For now it's indefinite.  There are several things that may be happening concurrently.   Lack of customers even though this is high season.  2. rent is or will be due soon ( 1 to 2 yrs rent is expected to be paid in advance ), 3.  getting a head start because of the upcoming closures and reconstruction on the beach.   

If rent is due, and the owners are not willing to accept only a 6 month advance on rent, then it would behoove The Tree House to go ahead and shut down operations.   It would be foolish to pay 1 or 2 yrs rent in advance, and end up having to shut down before the leases are up.

It's possible, there may be other entities that also require long term payments in advance.   Like electricity or cable/internet?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 11, 2023, 06:08:47 PM
I guess it's common knowledge by now,  the bridge separating Montellano and Congrejo is now closed.  All vehicles need to use the detour they have set up.   During peak times, traffic in both directions will be a mess.   A buddy of mine claims his chica took an hour and a half to get through the detour.  Why?   

Because drivers got so impatient, they created blockages in both directions, so nobody could move.   An amiga of mine sent me a quick video of traffic on the Montellano side as she was making it to work in Sosua. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 11, 2023, 09:52:50 PM
Why Sosua?

We come on a board dedicated to Sosua only to bash it @Murano lives there and seems to like it.

Why does the Sosua expats choose Sosua over everyplace else?

Obviously you can be negative but I would like to hear people talk up it's good points.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 11, 2023, 09:56:43 PM
@Bat Man.  I believe your experience.  Imma see if I get the same info, from BOA, Chase and CitiBank.  Ya never know, a lone representative ( like a supervisor ) may have or know a favorable loop hole, that they can offer.   Or I get lucky and catch a rep slipping.

My next idea is to check with Domex in Puerto Plata, or another courier service in the DR that has no problem accepting and shipping sensitive documents , like DC/CCs.   Domex is used and relied on by the US Embassy for shipping passports, maybe DC/CC is not a problem either?   

Although I think the real problem with DC/CC shipping happens with customs in Santo Domingo, not with the courier service itself.  It might be forbidden to ship financial documents/cards unless it's done through a secure system.   

My 3rd option is to forward my mail from my UPS Store mailbox to a friend's address.  Preferably with one that is coming to the DR in time for me to activate those cards.

That's interesting because The US embassy uses FEDEX when they approve visas They also are the only one that routinely ships guns and ammo.

We even used FEDEX to ship ammo in the military.

I'd be interested to know what DOMEX can do.

Almost two years in Colombia and I don't know any real alternatives to FEDEX and DHL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on January 12, 2023, 12:20:34 AM
While @Batman didn't ask me I was A Sosua expat for a very brief moment 11 months. Here is why I chose to live there. It is true that most places were locked down at the time I moved there as it was still covid time but there were still a few open that I could have picked. Some reason I lived there convenience you don't need a car or motorbike to live there two grocery stores and a bunch of good restaurants and relatively cheap all walkable from where I lived.

While one should learn the language of the place you live that isn't necessary in Sosua you can live just fine with knowing one word of Spanish. Safety while beggars and the like can be annoying I've never felt unsafe in Sosua that is a key factor as well.

Finally I'd had been coming to Sosua since 2013 hadn't been since 2016 but still felt comfortable there had friends there etc so knew I'd be ok. One thing you will notice about Sosua if you come a few times a year is that it really is the same core guys who go all the time sure you get first timers there but when I was visiting in those peak years 2013-2015 I saw the same guys there every visit like a big family the camaraderie is great.

One thing I must also point out is that woman were not really a reason for me coming as already out grown the mongering scene there sure I took them sometimes but that wasn't really a factor. Hope this was insightful for you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 03:54:17 AM
While @Batman didn't ask me I was A Sosua expat for a very brief moment 11 months. Here is why I chose to live there. It is true that most places were locked down at the time I moved there as it was still covid time but there were still a few open that I could have picked. Some reason I lived there convenience you don't need a car or motorbike to live there two grocery stores and a bunch of good restaurants and relatively cheap all walkable from where I lived.

While one should learn the language of the place you live that isn't necessary in Sosua you can live just fine with knowing one word of Spanish. Safety while beggars and the like can be annoying I've never felt unsafe in Sosua that is a key factor as well.

Finally I'd had been coming to Sosua since 2013 hadn't been since 2016 but still felt comfortable there had friends there etc so knew I'd be ok. One thing you will notice about Sosua if you come a few times a year is that it really is the same core guys who go all the time sure you get first timers there but when I was visiting in those peak years 2013-2015 I saw the same guys there every visit like a big family the camaraderie is great.

One thing I must also point out is that woman were not really a reason for me coming as already out grown the mongering scene there sure I took them sometimes but that wasn't really a factor. Hope this was insightful for you.

It is insightful. While you were in Sosua I was in Santo Domingo. I can see what you mean shit is like living in a regular neighborhood and I was told that after awhile the chicks stop hounding you and you can just make some discreet selections from time to time.

I will say  looking at eye candy on pedro or el conde or Parque Lleras is a cheap way to entertain yourself. If you're board you can go to the beach or Rumbas and just girl watch. As much as I despise creep cammers I do appreciate watching the female form in person.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 04:53:31 AM
While @Batman didn't ask me I was A Sosua expat for a very brief moment 11 months. Here is why I chose to live there. It is true that most places were locked down at the time I moved there as it was still covid time but there were still a few open that I could have picked. Some reason I lived there convenience you don't need a car or motorbike to live there two grocery stores and a bunch of good restaurants and relatively cheap all walkable from where I lived.

While one should learn the language of the place you live that isn't necessary in Sosua you can live just fine with knowing one word of Spanish. Safety while beggars and the like can be annoying I've never felt unsafe in Sosua that is a key factor as well.

Finally I'd had been coming to Sosua since 2013 hadn't been since 2016 but still felt comfortable there had friends there etc so knew I'd be ok. One thing you will notice about Sosua if you come a few times a year is that it really is the same core guys who go all the time sure you get first timers there but when I was visiting in those peak years 2013-2015 I saw the same guys there every visit like a big family the camaraderie is great.

One thing I must also point out is that woman were not really a reason for me coming as already out grown the mongering scene there sure I took them sometimes but that wasn't really a factor. Hope this was insightful for you.
WT3 that was an excellent breakdown and perspective.  I too share your perspective.  The camaraderie over the years has been therapeutic.  It's true.   Visiting or living here, eventually you see a lot of the same visitors day after day, week after week and month after month, year after year.    At some point people seem like family,  even if we never meet each other. 

Whenever I travel to other countries, I always notice that no place Ive been has the level of social connection and vibe for foreigners that Sosua has had over the years.   Because its a small town, it is very easy to bring people to together, instead of people having less chance of interacting or meeting.   

The town has a very diverse representation of visitors and residents, which makes being here seem very natural, so there is nothing to be ashamed of.  The vibe here does not represent prostitution entirely.   

Sosua has what you dont see in the barrios and campos.  Which is tourist police.  Now even though their presence has been an irritant to the chicas, their overall function is to protect visitors/foreigners from harm.  Their presence provides a layer of security that some may take for granted.   

Because of foreigner presence, a lot of things cater to the foreigner.   A foreigner can eat/dine and pay like a Dominican, or choose from many different types of food, all within a short distance of each other.  In the Sosua supermarkets, there are some import options that one would not find in stores catering only to locals.   

I remember how disappointed I was spending a month in Colombia and couldnt find certain food, like turkey products, and many other things I would usually buy if I was home in Sosua.   That beach, that scenic view there.  It's awesome, just about anyday.  Whenever I got to POP,  I felt like I had just arrived at 6 Flags or DisneyLand.   

This Dec 15th,  the Jetblue flight I was on from JFK, that landed in POP, everybody started clapping and cheering like they used to do upon arrival to POP/the DR.   I havent heard that much enthusiasm after a landing in a long time.   Sosua is addictive. 

When I hear comments from guys claiming how bored they are after 5 days in Sosua and cant wait to leave, I just mentality SMH.   Glad that I do not have or share their sentiments.   In fact, when its time for me to leave Sosua,  I hate having to go, even though I know I have to.   But the great thing about leaving, is that the things that I need to detox from,  I know my absence will rejuvenate me.  Making me look forward to my return. 

When it comes to the p4p scene,  I love that the fish jump in the boat.   The attention ( although insincere ) a man can get ,is great to see at almost any age.  Of course it was better years ago,  but a little bit of that is still here. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 05:20:48 AM
Wednesday Jan 11th 2023.   3 of us had a great lunch on the beach.  We all had the fried red snapper, with veggies, small salad and yellow rice with beans.  Also some creamy garlic sauce.  All compliments of Aris restaurant #67 on the beach.   We sat at a table in the sand.   For drinks, we got juices from the colmado on the beach just a few feet from where we were sitting.  2 16oz carrot juices and one 16oz chinola.  Very good, even though they were sweetened.  And only 200 pesos for all 3. 

While enjoying the food and scene, we were casually observing the comeback of maybe 2 dozen chicas  who were back on patrol looking for clients.  The visibility in the direction of Puerto Plata could not have been any clearer.   The weather on the beach was perfect.  It almost seemed as if I could feel the vitamin D being absorbed in me.  And thats another thing that I like about being in Sosua.  I tend to feel healthier, mentality and physically overall.   

Whereas, if I were in the states, especially where it was cold,  my hands would be dry, slightly ashy and shriveled up like an old man.  Joints might be a little stiff ,or out of sorts.  But when Im in the DR, my body  and spirit perks the f--k up.   I look and feel younger.    For me, its the simple things in life that I enjoy and deem satisfying.  It dont take much for me to be content here.   When Im ready to change my scene,  I have no problem using that passport, driving here, or taking public transpo.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 12, 2023, 07:26:28 AM
Why Sosua?

We come on a board dedicated to Sosua only to bash it @Murano lives there and seems to like it.

Why does the Sosua expats choose Sosua over everyplace else?

Obviously you can be negative but I would like to hear people talk up it's good points.

Looking for a place to retire in the region, the D.R. North Coast ticked more boxes that were important to me than other countries.

Lots of places you can live like a tourist (it gets expensive) or live like a local (it's complicated), here there is a nice in-between of the services we expect, and hopefully continues to be at a lower cost that other spots.

As I will continue to travel, proximity to the airport was important, so better here than Las Terranas.

But with the development, the traffic is starting to get to me. So this may not be the final landing spot after all.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 08:52:30 AM
While @Batman didn't ask me I was A Sosua expat for a very brief moment 11 months. Here is why I chose to live there. It is true that most places were locked down at the time I moved there as it was still covid time but there were still a few open that I could have picked. Some reason I lived there convenience you don't need a car or motorbike to live there two grocery stores and a bunch of good restaurants and relatively cheap all walkable from where I lived.

While one should learn the language of the place you live that isn't necessary in Sosua you can live just fine with knowing one word of Spanish. Safety while beggars and the like can be annoying I've never felt unsafe in Sosua that is a key factor as well.

Finally I'd had been coming to Sosua since 2013 hadn't been since 2016 but still felt comfortable there had friends there etc so knew I'd be ok. One thing you will notice about Sosua if you come a few times a year is that it really is the same core guys who go all the time sure you get first timers there but when I was visiting in those peak years 2013-2015 I saw the same guys there every visit like a big family the camaraderie is great.

One thing I must also point out is that woman were not really a reason for me coming as already out grown the mongering scene there sure I took them sometimes but that wasn't really a factor. Hope this was insightful for you.
WT3 that was an excellent breakdown and perspective.  I too share your perspective.  The camaraderie over the years has been therapeutic.  It's true.   Visiting or living here, eventually you see a lot of the same visitors day after day, week after week and month after month, year after year.    At some point people seem like family,  even if we never meet each other. 

Whenever I travel to other countries, I always notice that no place Ive been has the level of social connection and vibe for foreigners that Sosua has had over the years.   Because its a small town, it is very easy to bring people to together, instead of people having less chance of interacting or meeting.   

The town has a very diverse representation of visitors and residents, which makes being here seem very natural, so there is nothing to be ashamed of.  The vibe here does not represent prostitution entirely.   

Sosua has what you dont see in the barrios and campos.  Which is tourist police.  Now even though their presence has been an irritant to the chicas, their overall function is to protect visitors/foreigners from harm.  Their presence provides a layer of security that some may take for granted.   

Because of foreigner presence, a lot of things cater to the foreigner.   A foreigner can eat/dine and pay like a Dominican, or choose from many different types of food, all within a short distance of each other.  In the Sosua supermarkets, there are some import options that one would not find in stores catering only to locals.   

I remember how disappointed I was spending a month in Colombia and couldnt find certain food, like turkey products, and many other things I would usually buy if I was home in Sosua.   That beach, that scenic view there.  It's awesome, just about anyday.  Whenever I got to POP,  I felt like I had just arrived at 6 Flags or DisneyLand.   

This Dec 15th,  the Jetblue flight I was on from JFK, that landed in POP, everybody started clapping and cheering like they used to do upon arrival to POP/the DR.   I havent heard that much enthusiasm after a landing in a long time.   Sosua is addictive. 

When I hear comments from guys claiming how bored they are after 5 days in Sosua and cant wait to leave, I just mentality SMH.   Glad that I do not have or share their sentiments.   In fact, when its time for me to leave Sosua,  I hate having to go, even though I know I have to.   But the great thing about leaving, is that the things that I need to detox from,  I know my absence will rejuvenate me.  Making me look forward to my return. 

When it comes to the p4p scene,  I love that the fish jump in the boat.   The attention ( although insincere ) a man can get ,is great to see at almost any age.  Of course it was better years ago,  but a little bit of that is still here.

Wow. You really put things in perspective.

I've visited and mongered in several places and the DR as a whole is a special place. There's Brotherhood and community there. I remember when I was in SD there was an African American lady that used to hang around and as dudes were making comments at the March of Dimes when I knew the lady was an expat I was like Shush she'll hear you they were like She's cool and she was she was like one of the fellas she even gave me some advice.

Same thing one time we were there again commenting on the women and two Dominican women over heard us. Turns out they used to live in Pittsburg for 10 years and they were a couple they even looked a like They didn't look like studs but once you knew what was up you could tell they were together. I've noticed that from some Lesibans some of them want to be considered öne of the boys" and some kind of want to be seen as such but are ok with being filrted with.

Anyway I considered them öff limits" well that didn't deter a married friend who spent 6 months on the island each year. when one went to the bathroom he got the number of the other one.

Parque Lleras doesn't hold a candle to the botherhood.  I think it's wierd to say this or that country has the most beautiful women but what I will say is that El Conde and the Malecon to an extent draws "regular women" there's some hardcores and the hardest of the hardcores sort themselves by Parque Indepencia (which is amazing that such a promient place is also a hoe stroll). What I mean by "regular woman" means most are not on tge game but some of them are at least some of the time. getting a bill paid or putting food on the table through el conde is a time honored tradition. I remember the same married monger was with us at the Cigar bar and a chick came around she was very cute but she didn't have a number and no one wanted to appear thristy so we were non committal The married guy said Duty Calls and whisked her away to his place. He reported that the lay was excellent. I never saw her on the stroll again.

I struck out with this stunning Haitian who was visiting, she seemed to be a high end chica, she looked like a fashion model meaning she looked like a lot of the non white fashion models look striking without being technically conventionally attractive, She gave me her number but we never linked up.

That's the beauty of the DR in general I f--ked several women and never set foot in.a casa and only went to Sosua when dragged there but at the malls, or anywhere it was a snap to have fish jump on the line and talk to you It's sorta like hunting shmoos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC0ybbLCa4E

That's certainly not the case in Parque Lleras or La 70 the girls on the game are on the game and the ones that aren't arent.

One youtuber said he walks around with no drawers because when he walks out he knows that he's gonna take something to a cabana. That's probably not true but you defenitely can meet girls in any commerical area and take them to a cabana or get their number easily. Dominicans are so friendly that when I first moved there I mistook some of their kindness as them wanting to get with me. I had my own landlady suugest her friends when she saw the amount of girls comming in and out of my place. I keep myself safe by getting referrals in Colombia there's no need of doing this in the DR. A Dominicana may steal from you but she won't kill you.

Another note on the camarderie there's none of this monger shaming that happens with expats in other places. In Africa I saw low key pressured into getting into a committed relationship so that I didn't have too many dates around the expats. Same as in Cali you got the Ï'm not a Monger" crowd meanwhile their wives and GF's would leave them the second their money runs out. I consider marriage to be a long term session without f--king but that's just me. Even though I have a GF I'm still gonna take down something if I have the inclination or the oppertunity presents itself.

I could say Sosua seems small to me but at the end of the day I generally walk to everyplace I go and I don't leave a 15km radius on a daily basis because I don't need to everything is in that 15km bubble. Cali is a big city of around 2.5 million people and you can't find things that you can easily find even in Sosua, and we just discussed the differences of getting goods from the states to Colombia versus the ease and options of things being shipped to the DR.

If I didn't have a couple of buds agree to bring me some items I'd be lost, If I were in Sosua I'd have no problems.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 09:48:30 AM
Why Sosua?

We come on a board dedicated to Sosua only to bash it @Murano lives there and seems to like it.

Why does the Sosua expats choose Sosua over everyplace else?

Obviously you can be negative but I would like to hear people talk up it's good points.

Looking for a place to retire in the region, the D.R. North Coast ticked more boxes that were important to me than other countries.

Lots of places you can live like a tourist (it gets expensive) or live like a local (it's complicated), here there is a nice in-between of the services we expect, and hopefully continues to be at a lower cost that other spots.

As I will continue to travel, proximity to the airport was important, so better here than Las Terranas.

But with the development, the traffic is starting to get to me. So this may not be the final landing spot after all.

I'm not going to lie Sosua seems a little over priced now but that being said getting a place at Casa Linda is a great one stop shop for the point n click expat. Prices may come back down to earth as some of the old heads move on and new blood comes in.

Personally I like development but I understand there's a lot of people looking for a slower paced carribean vibe. I know a buddy who's building a place right off the beach in Miches.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 09:58:56 AM
While @Batman didn't ask me I was A Sosua expat for a very brief moment 11 months. Here is why I chose to live there. It is true that most places were locked down at the time I moved there as it was still covid time but there were still a few open that I could have picked. Some reason I lived there convenience you don't need a car or motorbike to live there two grocery stores and a bunch of good restaurants and relatively cheap all walkable from where I lived.

While one should learn the language of the place you live that isn't necessary in Sosua you can live just fine with knowing one word of Spanish. Safety while beggars and the like can be annoying I've never felt unsafe in Sosua that is a key factor as well.

Finally I'd had been coming to Sosua since 2013 hadn't been since 2016 but still felt comfortable there had friends there etc so knew I'd be ok. One thing you will notice about Sosua if you come a few times a year is that it really is the same core guys who go all the time sure you get first timers there but when I was visiting in those peak years 2013-2015 I saw the same guys there every visit like a big family the camaraderie is great.

One thing I must also point out is that woman were not really a reason for me coming as already out grown the mongering scene there sure I took them sometimes but that wasn't really a factor. Hope this was insightful for you.
WT3 that was an excellent breakdown and perspective.  I too share your perspective.  The camaraderie over the years has been therapeutic.  It's true.   Visiting or living here, eventually you see a lot of the same visitors day after day, week after week and month after month, year after year.    At some point people seem like family,  even if we never meet each other. 

Whenever I travel to other countries, I always notice that no place Ive been has the level of social connection and vibe for foreigners that Sosua has had over the years.   Because its a small town, it is very easy to bring people to together, instead of people having less chance of interacting or meeting.   

The town has a very diverse representation of visitors and residents, which makes being here seem very natural, so there is nothing to be ashamed of.  The vibe here does not represent prostitution entirely.   

Sosua has what you dont see in the barrios and campos.  Which is tourist police.  Now even though their presence has been an irritant to the chicas, their overall function is to protect visitors/foreigners from harm.  Their presence provides a layer of security that some may take for granted.   

Because of foreigner presence, a lot of things cater to the foreigner.   A foreigner can eat/dine and pay like a Dominican, or choose from many different types of food, all within a short distance of each other.  In the Sosua supermarkets, there are some import options that one would not find in stores catering only to locals.   

I remember how disappointed I was spending a month in Colombia and couldnt find certain food, like turkey products, and many other things I would usually buy if I was home in Sosua.   That beach, that scenic view there.  It's awesome, just about anyday.  Whenever I got to POP,  I felt like I had just arrived at 6 Flags or DisneyLand.   

This Dec 15th,  the Jetblue flight I was on from JFK, that landed in POP, everybody started clapping and cheering like they used to do upon arrival to POP/the DR.   I havent heard that much enthusiasm after a landing in a long time.   Sosua is addictive. 

When I hear comments from guys claiming how bored they are after 5 days in Sosua and cant wait to leave, I just mentality SMH.   Glad that I do not have or share their sentiments.   In fact, when its time for me to leave Sosua,  I hate having to go, even though I know I have to.   But the great thing about leaving, is that the things that I need to detox from,  I know my absence will rejuvenate me.  Making me look forward to my return. 

When it comes to the p4p scene,  I love that the fish jump in the boat.   The attention ( although insincere ) a man can get ,is great to see at almost any age.  Of course it was better years ago,  but a little bit of that is still here.

While I never interacted with them myself I agree that the Cestur is good and necessary addition. Again with all the Tourism in Colombia and Medellin in general they don't seem to have police trained to deal with Tourist issues. This is another way that the DR shows they value tourists.

I didn't know they have a full scale welcoming committee at POP airport but it would make sense  because the vast majority of people flying into POP will be tourists whereas SD airport will be filled with Dominican returnees coming back from shopping trips from the Miami Gardens Super Walmart
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 10:11:31 AM
@ Bat Man, your contribution is duly noted. 

Of course, this feedback inspires me to flow with whatever pops in my mind.  One of the benefits of living here in Sosua ( or anywhere that p4p exists ), is the feeling of not being thirsty.  Knowing that getting laid is available 24/7.    My early years of dating in the states, I was just like any other decent looking cat that "pulled" his fair share of women.   Back when a guy could meet chicks at the club, and sometimes end up hitting it that night, or starting a relationship just from meeting. 

Today, the dating scene is bad for a lot of guys where they come from ( including other countries ), even for younger guys.  A lot of guys are not happy with what they may have to go through just to get laid.

And thats why I see living in a p4p, pussy rich environment as an advantage for any man.  Especially so a man doesnt need to be like a groveling simp in the way he interacts with women, with behaviors that appear to be pedestalizing them.   

Additionally,  after a man has had a lifetime of sex and getting his needs met, pursuing women becomes less of a priority.   When Im in the states, women dont have my self inflicted psychological hold on me, that they used to have.  When women in the states were my only option.  So I thought/believed.   

These days I can talk and interact with women in the states with zero interest in pursuing them for anything.   Even when I see them vacationing abroad.  I could care less about pursuing them.  For one,  many of them still have that it's all about them attitude.  They expect to still get attention of men wherever they go.   And American women in my age range, are all mostly built like a Maytag washer. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 10:32:09 AM

While I never interacted with them myself I agree that the Cestur is good and necessary addition. Again with all the Tourism in Colombia and Medellin in general they don't seem to have police trained to deal with Tourist issues. This is another way that the DR shows they value tourists.

I didn't know they have a full scale welcoming committee at POP airport but it would make sense  because the vast majority of people flying into POP will be tourists whereas SD airport will be filled with Dominican returnees coming back from shopping trips from the Miami Gardens Super Walmart
Im not sure which welcoming committee you are referring to.  Upon arrival to POP, you have the small Dominican band that plays music in the airport hallway, for donations. 

For clarity, the clapping and cheering ( that I referred to ) was coming from the mostly Dominican passengers on the plane when it landed, and other regular tourists that were on my flight.   There werent many guys like myself on my flight.  It almost looked like the flight was chartered mostly for Dominicans going to the DR to celebrate the Xmas holiday.   

Although I dont put much stock in the training of the Cestur police in handling matters, they can still be an asset on some level.   Especially for expat fixtures they see daily, that they dont regard as assholes.         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 10:43:43 AM
Wednesday Jan 11th 2023.   3 of us had a great lunch on the beach.  We all had the fried red snapper, with veggies, small salad and yellow rice with beans.  Also some creamy garlic sauce.  All compliments of Aris restaurant #67 on the beach.   We sat at a table in the sand.   For drinks, we got juices from the colmado on the beach just a few feet from where we were sitting.  2 16oz carrot juices and one 16oz chinola.  Very good, even though they were sweetened.  And only 200 pesos for all 3. 

While enjoying the food and scene, we were casually observing the comeback of maybe 2 dozen chicas  who were back on patrol looking for clients.  The visibility in the direction of Puerto Plata could not have been any clearer.   The weather on the beach was perfect.  It almost seemed as if I could feel the vitamin D being absorbed in me.  And thats another thing that I like about being in Sosua.  I tend to feel healthier, mentality and physically overall.   

Whereas, if I were in the states, especially where it was cold,  my hands would be dry, slightly ashy and shriveled up like an old man.  Joints might be a little stiff ,or out of sorts.  But when Im in the DR, my body  and spirit perks the f--k up.   I look and feel younger.    For me, its the simple things in life that I enjoy and deem satisfying.  It dont take much for me to be content here.   When Im ready to change my scene,  I have no problem using that passport, driving here, or taking public transpo.

That brings up another point. Since the DR is an Island there's juices and Green Coconuts sold Island wide. I'm not saying there's zero fresh sqeezed juice stands but they're not all over the place like in the DR. being in the Tropics you get the natural Vitamin D but you also automatically eat a plant based diet by default because fruit is sold everywhere.

I live in the Tropics but I don't see too many green Coconuts outside of the market which is far from where I live.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 10:44:44 AM
Why Sosua?

We come on a board dedicated to Sosua only to bash it @Murano lives there and seems to like it.

Why does the Sosua expats choose Sosua over everyplace else?

Obviously you can be negative but I would like to hear people talk up it's good points.

Looking for a place to retire in the region, the D.R. North Coast ticked more boxes that were important to me than other countries.

Lots of places you can live like a tourist (it gets expensive) or live like a local (it's complicated), here there is a nice in-between of the services we expect, and hopefully continues to be at a lower cost that other spots.

As I will continue to travel, proximity to the airport was important, so better here than Las Terranas.

But with the development, the traffic is starting to get to me. So this may not be the final landing spot after all.
I feel likewise.  Having an airport within 15 minutes from home is a blessing.  But the local traffic is getting worse.   Driving around in Puerto Plata is horrible and stressful.   Although I do it from time to time.   But Im so glad when Im heading back to Sosua.   Going through Cabarete is getting worse too.   From Maranatha until you get to Super Pola in Sosua, that traffic can be murder.     

One way to relieve the stress, is avoiding peak times,  and also driving a motorbike when not going too far.  Like me going to Delancer to pay a bill.  Or scooting around Sosua on a motorbike or a bicycle.  Dont need a car for that.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
@ Bat Man, your contribution is duly noted. 

Of course, this feedback inspires me to flow with whatever pops in my mind.  One of the benefits of living here in Sosua ( or anywhere that p4p exists ), is the feeling of not being thirsty.  Knowing that getting laid is available 24/7.    My early years of dating in the states, I was just like any other decent looking cat that "pulled" his fair share of women.   Back when a guy could meet chicks at the club, and sometimes end up hitting it that night, or starting a relationship just from meeting. 

Today, the dating scene is bad for a lot of guys where they come from ( including other countries ), even for younger guys.  A lot of guys are not happy with what they may have to go through just to get laid.

And thats why I see living in a p4p, pussy rich environment as an advantage for any man.  Especially so a man doesnt need to be like a groveling simp in the way he interacts with women, with behaviors that appear to be pedestalizing them.   

Additionally,  after a man has had a lifetime of sex and getting his needs met, pursuing women becomes less of a priority.   When Im in the states, women dont have my self inflicted psychological hold on me, that they used to have.  When women in the states were my only option.  So I thought/believed.   

These days I can talk and interact with women in the states with zero interest in pursuing them for anything.   Even when I see them vacationing abroad.  I could care less about pursuing them.  For one,  many of them still have that it's all about them attitude.  They expect to still get attention of men wherever they go.   And American women in my age range, are all mostly built like a Maytag washer.

You hit the nail on the head. I got my fair share of free pussy in the states. I've had Girl friends and wives and England has been the top place for getting free pussy for me.

That being said there is a Male Wall and I don't want to be the Old Man in the Club, and dealing with the few reasonably attractive ladies of my age has been garbage.

I recently had a monger tell me he was dissapointed that he swiped through all the dating apps in Cali and there were önly". 500 girls.  I never even tried to swipe through the entirety of Tinder and I wouldn't even try.  I get it some guys see the US as a sex dungeon and they have a massive thirst and come to these countries thinking that they are gonna find Love Validation and acceptance in a week long trip.

Thank God I have an abundance mentality when it comes to women. That being said I defenitely OD'ed on pussy when I first came to the DR If a girl called I always said yes if she met 8 or above rating.  Shit became like a job I learned that 3 was more than sufficient because you were gonna knock down more here and there and that you should pace yourself, so I course corrected in Colombia. But Colombia isn't the DR and I don't collect numbers by accident in the same way as I did in the DR.

It's amazing to me how some guys can be so old and not understand basic human nature and what attracts and motivates women.
This thread alone is becoming a haven of positivity about Sosua and should generate more interest.  If Russell Taylor was given slack for promoting Sosua to guys then This thread alone and especially @Murano2010's contributions is worth a Key to the City
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 10:59:25 AM
Wednesday Jan 11th 2023.   3 of us had a great lunch on the beach.  We all had the fried red snapper, with veggies, small salad and yellow rice with beans.  Also some creamy garlic sauce.  All compliments of Aris restaurant #67 on the beach.   We sat at a table in the sand.   For drinks, we got juices from the colmado on the beach just a few feet from where we were sitting.  2 16oz carrot juices and one 16oz chinola.  Very good, even though they were sweetened.  And only 200 pesos for all 3. 

While enjoying the food and scene, we were casually observing the comeback of maybe 2 dozen chicas  who were back on patrol looking for clients.  The visibility in the direction of Puerto Plata could not have been any clearer.   The weather on the beach was perfect.  It almost seemed as if I could feel the vitamin D being absorbed in me.  And thats another thing that I like about being in Sosua.  I tend to feel healthier, mentality and physically overall.   

Whereas, if I were in the states, especially where it was cold,  my hands would be dry, slightly ashy and shriveled up like an old man.  Joints might be a little stiff ,or out of sorts.  But when Im in the DR, my body  and spirit perks the f--k up.   I look and feel younger.    For me, its the simple things in life that I enjoy and deem satisfying.  It dont take much for me to be content here.   When Im ready to change my scene,  I have no problem using that passport, driving here, or taking public transpo.

That brings up another point. Since the DR is an Island there's juices and Green Coconuts sold Island wide. I'm not saying there's zero fresh sqeezed juice stands but they're not all over the place like in the DR. being in the Tropics you get the natural Vitamin D but you also automatically eat a plant based diet by default because fruit is sold everywhere.

I live in the Tropics but I don't see too many green Coconuts outside of the market which is far from where I live.
Yes outstanding observation.  Here in Sosua, I can balance and moderate my diet.  I can eat/drink for health, and I can also enjoy some of my indulgences, in moderation.   When it comes to natural or special health products, I may find some here , bring them here, or order online.   Braggs ACV is available here.  I have ordered my 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine from Amazon, and got it shipped here.  Vitamins or herbs I couldnt find here, I ordered online and had it shipped here.  Sometimes I bought them ( the vitamins ) from Pricesmart in Santiago.

I visited the Pricesmart in Medellin Colombia.  Thats when I was searching for certain foods to have in my airbnb.  The Pricesmart here in the DR will have a lot of food options for me that I might not find in Colombia.   Yes those fresh green coconuts is one of the best beverages one can consume daily. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 11:12:34 AM
Oh I might add, the Philippines is a great place for getting fruit on a daily basis.  And mostly every type of fruit is much cheaper than in the DR.  This year avocados were scarce in the PH.  The price of them from one vender was over 300 pesos per kilo.   And I couldnt find another vender anywhere that had them cheaper and was close by.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 11:16:04 AM
Wednesday Jan 11th 2023.   3 of us had a great lunch on the beach.  We all had the fried red snapper, with veggies, small salad and yellow rice with beans.  Also some creamy garlic sauce.  All compliments of Aris restaurant #67 on the beach.   We sat at a table in the sand.   For drinks, we got juices from the colmado on the beach just a few feet from where we were sitting.  2 16oz carrot juices and one 16oz chinola.  Very good, even though they were sweetened.  And only 200 pesos for all 3. 

While enjoying the food and scene, we were casually observing the comeback of maybe 2 dozen chicas  who were back on patrol looking for clients.  The visibility in the direction of Puerto Plata could not have been any clearer.   The weather on the beach was perfect.  It almost seemed as if I could feel the vitamin D being absorbed in me.  And thats another thing that I like about being in Sosua.  I tend to feel healthier, mentality and physically overall.   

Whereas, if I were in the states, especially where it was cold,  my hands would be dry, slightly ashy and shriveled up like an old man.  Joints might be a little stiff ,or out of sorts.  But when Im in the DR, my body  and spirit perks the f--k up.   I look and feel younger.    For me, its the simple things in life that I enjoy and deem satisfying.  It dont take much for me to be content here.   When Im ready to change my scene,  I have no problem using that passport, driving here, or taking public transpo.

That brings up another point. Since the DR is an Island there's juices and Green Coconuts sold Island wide. I'm not saying there's zero fresh sqeezed juice stands but they're not all over the place like in the DR. being in the Tropics you get the natural Vitamin D but you also automatically eat a plant based diet by default because fruit is sold everywhere.

I live in the Tropics but I don't see too many green Coconuts outside of the market which is far from where I live.
Yes outstanding observation.  Here in Sosua, I can balance and moderate my diet.  I can eat/drink for health, and I can also enjoy some of my indulgences, inmoderation.   When it comes to natural or special health products, I may find some here , bring them here, or order online.   Braggs ACV is available here.  I have ordered my 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine from Amazon.  Vitamins I couldnt find here, I ordered online and had it shipped here.  Sometimes I bought them from Pricesmart in Santiago.

I visited the Pricesmart in Medellin Colombia.  Thats when I was searching for certain foods to have in my airbnb.  The Pricesmart here in the DR will have a lot of food options for me that I might not find in Colombia.   Yes those fresh green coconuts is one of the best beverages one can consume daily.

When I get back to the DR I have to visit Pricesmart. I buddy offered to take me but you really learn to take care of your health even if you just need the energy to pipe down several 20 year olds without taking a daily cocktail of C&V.

Pat MacNamera said that perscrption meds are the devil and that you could and should reduce your use of them. Weight lifting and eating less processed foods keeps my BP regulated naturally.

The Sun is the best source for Vitamin D so no need for pills for that.

Exchanging fresh squeezed OJ for sodas helps keep blood sugars regulated.

Not to mention the lack of stress and cortisol by not working my normal 60 hours a week schedule.

Hell I'm probably adding about 20 years to my lifespan just being in the tropics and if I check out there's not a better place to so and I told people to have the embassy ship my body home and I qualify for a spot in Arlington but any Veteran's cemetary will do.

I am a member of Pricesmart here in Colombia but because of the cheapness of Colombia in general it's hardly justified by cost to be a member and the fact that they sell all those yucky WalMart branded foods....

I just don't eat a lot of that stuff no more. Again people complain about costs If you compare food shopping in the DR to buying stuff at Whole Foods/ Whole Paycheck. you get "certified Organic" stuff for way cheaper from the markets. I would buy Pinapples off the street from a guy who brought them in from the campo probably less than 30 miles away. You cant beat that.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 11:22:13 AM
Oh I might add, the Philippines is a great place for getting fruit on a daily basis.  And mostly every type of fruit is much cheaper than in the DR.  This year avocados were scarce in the PH.  The price of them from one vender was over 300 pesos per kilo.   And I couldnt find another vender anywhere that had them cheaper and was close by.

Well theer was reports of China buying up Avacados globally. There was a write up that China wanted to buy like 15 to 20% of Kenyas Avacado crop of Hass Avacados and they even built a factory to freeze them before shipment to China.

I got a buddy who has an apartment that he's trying to flog in AC. He's in Colombia now but I do have to check it out to give it a far shake.

We can expand this to say Why Sosua versus other places. For example considering it might be cheaper to eat Why Sosua over Subic bay?

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 11:34:42 AM

While I never interacted with them myself I agree that the Cestur is good and necessary addition. Again with all the Tourism in Colombia and Medellin in general they don't seem to have police trained to deal with Tourist issues. This is another way that the DR shows they value tourists.

I didn't know they have a full scale welcoming committee at POP airport but it would make sense  because the vast majority of people flying into POP will be tourists whereas SD airport will be filled with Dominican returnees coming back from shopping trips from the Miami Gardens Super Walmart
Im not sure which welcoming committee you are referring to.  Upon arrival to POP, you have the small Dominican band that plays music in the airport hallway, for donations. 

For clarity, the clapping and cheering ( that I referred to ) was coming from the mostly Dominican passengers on the plane when it landed, and other regular tourists that were on my flight.   There werent many guys like myself on my flight.  It almost looked like the flight was chartered mostly for Dominicans going to the DR to celebrate the Xmas holiday.   

Although I dont put much stock in the training of the Cestur police in handling matters, they can still be an asset on some level.   Especially for expat fixtures they see daily, that they dont regard as assholes.         

I never flew into POP so whenyou said people were cheering I thought of Hawaiian chicks handing out Lei's to people getting off the plane.

I know a couple of flight attendants that say that Clapping when landing pisses off Pilots because they consider their job routine and safe.

We forget that they're rich Dominicans and people who live on the north coast doing a WalMart run might have the coin for the convienance of flying directly to POP.

It's not that Cestur is gonna have the knack of Kojack and be better than Barretta but they can and do deter bullshit by their presence so you won't be hounded by hustlers selling junk like you do in say Cartegena just because you looked at him for a millisecond.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Azzman on January 12, 2023, 11:35:27 AM
Wednesday Jan 11th 2023.   3 of us had a great lunch on the beach.  We all had the fried red snapper, with veggies, small salad and yellow rice with beans.  Also some creamy garlic sauce.  All compliments of Aris restaurant #67 on the beach.   We sat at a table in the sand.   For drinks, we got juices from the colmado on the beach just a few feet from where we were sitting.  2 16oz carrot juices and one 16oz chinola.  Very good, even though they were sweetened.  And only 200 pesos for all 3. 

While enjoying the food and scene, we were casually observing the comeback of maybe 2 dozen chicas  who were back on patrol looking for clients.  The visibility in the direction of Puerto Plata could not have been any clearer.   The weather on the beach was perfect.  It almost seemed as if I could feel the vitamin D being absorbed in me.  And thats another thing that I like about being in Sosua.  I tend to feel healthier, mentality and physically overall.   

Whereas, if I were in the states, especially where it was cold,  my hands would be dry, slightly ashy and shriveled up like an old man.  Joints might be a little stiff ,or out of sorts.  But when Im in the DR, my body  and spirit perks the f--k up.   I look and feel younger.    For me, its the simple things in life that I enjoy and deem satisfying.  It dont take much for me to be content here.   When Im ready to change my scene,  I have no problem using that passport, driving here, or taking public transpo.

That brings up another point. Since the DR is an Island there's juices and Green Coconuts sold Island wide. I'm not saying there's zero fresh sqeezed juice stands but they're not all over the place like in the DR. being in the Tropics you get the natural Vitamin D but you also automatically eat a plant based diet by default because fruit is sold everywhere.

I live in the Tropics but I don't see too many green Coconuts outside of the market which is far from where I live.
Yes outstanding observation.  Here in Sosua, I can balance and moderate my diet.  I can eat/drink for health, and I can also enjoy some of my indulgences, inmoderation.   When it comes to natural or special health products, I may find some here , bring them here, or order online.   Braggs ACV is available here.  I have ordered my 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine from Amazon.  Vitamins I couldnt find here, I ordered online and had it shipped here.  Sometimes I bought them from Pricesmart in Santiago.

I visited the Pricesmart in Medellin Colombia.  Thats when I was searching for certain foods to have in my airbnb.  The Pricesmart here in the DR will have a lot of food options for me that I might not find in Colombia.   Yes those fresh green coconuts is one of the best beverages one can consume daily.

When I get back to the DR I have to visit Pricesmart. I buddy offered to take me but you really learn to take care of your health even if you just need the energy to pipe down several 20 year olds without taking a daily cocktail of C&V.

Pat MacNamera said that perscrption meds are the devil and that you could and should reduce your use of them. Weight lifting and eating less processed foods keeps my BP regulated naturally.

The Sun is the best source for Vitamin D so no need for pills for that.

Exchanging fresh squeezed OJ for sodas helps keep blood sugars regulated.

Not to mention the lack of stress and cortisol by not working my normal 60 hours a week schedule.

Hell I'm probably adding about 20 years to my lifespan just being in the tropics and if I check out there's not a better place to so and I told people to have the embassy ship my body home and I qualify for a spot in Arlington but any Veteran's cemetary will do.

I am a member of Pricesmart here in Colombia but because of the cheapness of Colombia in general it's hardly justified by cost to be a member and the fact that they sell all those yucky WalMart branded foods....

I just don't eat a lot of that stuff no more. Again people complain about costs If you compare food shopping in the DR to buying stuff at Whole Foods/ Whole Paycheck. you get "certified Organic" stuff for way cheaper from the markets. I would buy Pinapples off the street from a guy who brought them in from the campo probably less than 30 miles away. You cant beat that.

Outstanding points bro! ☝🏾 sugar is so freakin addictive and we all are guilty. But eating healthy makes one feel so much better and being that all of us on this board is mongers we should want to eat shit that is going to make us “Strong like Bull” getting at them chicas…lol. Coconut milk is also one of the most important things you can consume on those islands…I’m a Sports-f--ker so I need to be hydrated all the time f--k all the alcohol, give me a good shot of coconut milk and some sun ☀️ and I’m ready to hurt somebody daughter.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 11:40:34 AM
Why Sosua?

We come on a board dedicated to Sosua only to bash it @Murano lives there and seems to like it.

Why does the Sosua expats choose Sosua over everyplace else?

Obviously you can be negative but I would like to hear people talk up it's good points.

Looking for a place to retire in the region, the D.R. North Coast ticked more boxes that were important to me than other countries.

Lots of places you can live like a tourist (it gets expensive) or live like a local (it's complicated), here there is a nice in-between of the services we expect, and hopefully continues to be at a lower cost that other spots.

As I will continue to travel, proximity to the airport was important, so better here than Las Terranas.

But with the development, the traffic is starting to get to me. So this may not be the final landing spot after all.
I feel likewise.  Having an airport within 15 minutes from home is a blessing.  But the local traffic is getting worse.   Driving around in Puerto Plata is horrible and stressful.   Although I do it from time to time.   But Im so glad when Im heading back to Sosua.   Going through Cabarete is getting worse too.   From Maranatha until you get to Super Pola in Sosua, that traffic can be murder.     

One way to relieve the stress, is avoiding peak times,  and also driving a motorbike when not going too far.  Like me going to Delancer to pay a bill.  Or scooting around Sosua on a motorbike or a bicycle.  Dont need a car for that.       

damn then I guess if you lived in SD you'd about die. I stupidly moved to the northside and due to the 90 minute traffic jams I avoded going to Zona Colonial for months.

I remember eating dinner with a buddy in Nairobi and watching the standstill traffic at 7pm!!! on the road from the restuarant.

That being said only 15 minutes to the airport? It took me 75 minutes after a quick trip to Medellin.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 12, 2023, 11:40:47 AM
@ Bat Man, your contribution is duly noted. 

Of course, this feedback inspires me to flow with whatever pops in my mind.  One of the benefits of living here in Sosua ( or anywhere that p4p exists ), is the feeling of not being thirsty.  Knowing that getting laid is available 24/7.    My early years of dating in the states, I was just like any other decent looking cat that "pulled" his fair share of women.   Back when a guy could meet chicks at the club, and sometimes end up hitting it that night, or starting a relationship just from meeting. 

Today, the dating scene is bad for a lot of guys where they come from ( including other countries ), even for younger guys.  A lot of guys are not happy with what they may have to go through just to get laid.

And thats why I see living in a p4p, pussy rich environment as an advantage for any man.  Especially so a man doesnt need to be like a groveling simp in the way he interacts with women, with behaviors that appear to be pedestalizing them.   

Additionally,  after a man has had a lifetime of sex and getting his needs met, pursuing women becomes less of a priority.   When Im in the states, women dont have my self inflicted psychological hold on me, that they used to have.  When women in the states were my only option.  So I thought/believed.   

These days I can talk and interact with women in the states with zero interest in pursuing them for anything.   Even when I see them vacationing abroad.  I could care less about pursuing them.  For one,  many of them still have that it's all about them attitude.  They expect to still get attention of men wherever they go.   And American women in my age range, are all mostly built like a Maytag washer.

You hit the nail on the head. I got my fair share of free pussy in the states. I've had Girl friends and wives and England has been the top place for getting free pussy for me.

That being said there is a Male Wall and I don't want to be the Old Man in the Club, and dealing with the few reasonably attractive ladies of my age has been garbage.

I recently had a monger tell me he was dissapointed that he swiped through all the dating apps in Cali and there were önly". 500 girls.  I never even tried to swipe through the entirety of Tinder and I wouldn't even try.  I get it some guys see the US as a sex dungeon and they have a massive thirst and come to these countries thinking that they are gonna find Love Validation and acceptance in a week long trip.

Thank God I have an abundance mentality when it comes to women. That being said I defenitely OD'ed on pussy when I first came to the DR If a girl called I always said yes if she met 8 or above rating.  Shit became like a job I learned that 3 was more than sufficient because you were gonna knock down more here and there and that you should pace yourself, so I course corrected in Colombia. But Colombia isn't the DR and I don't collect numbers by accident in the same way as I did in the DR.

It's amazing to me how some guys can be so old and not understand basic human nature and what attracts and motivates women.
This thread alone is becoming a haven of positivity about Sosua and should generate more interest.  If Russell Taylor was given slack for promoting Sosua to guys then This thread alone and especially @Murano2010's contributions is worth a Key to the City
Sir a lot of good points Sirs.Yup the American dating scene and just trying to get laid in the states is pitifull.Its totaley ,reversed rolls down here !,,Instead on being on eggs shells around women and dont want to mention any thing sexual as you may get fired or charged with a sexual crime,, f--k that, every guy over 30 thats not happily married should vist the DR Thialand or the phillipines.  the free loving 70s and 80s in the USA are long gone, with the Aids scare me to movment and feminazis,   easy access to pusy is long gone in the states,,What guys are got to realise its a macho county down here your in command,,,your the boss your the one with the pesos, Even if you have mongered in the states its a different ball game down here.its a learning curve, but once you have masterd the Art of selecting prime pussy your good to go! theres such an abundence of pussy thats up for grabs even a deaf dumb blind man can get laid if your 18-to 80 your gonna get your dick wet! you eran your stripes you can cosinder your self a whore master haha. like going into battle sure your going to ecounter mine fields. you may not get your leg blown off mabey your wallet drained or a broken heart if you go to deep..and if your victorious you win a fun battle , no pun intended.So if your 30 an older come on down have fun get your fill of pussy  !!!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 11:43:17 AM

When I get back to the DR I have to visit Pricesmart. I buddy offered to take me but you really learn to take care of your health even if you just need the energy to pipe down several 20 year olds without taking a daily cocktail of C&V.

Pat MacNamera said that perscrption meds are the devil and that you could and should reduce your use of them. Weight lifting and eating less processed foods keeps my BP regulated naturally.

The Sun is the best source for Vitamin D so no need for pills for that.

Exchanging fresh squeezed OJ for sodas helps keep blood sugars regulated.

Not to mention the lack of stress and cortisol by not working my normal 60 hours a week schedule.

Hell I'm probably adding about 20 years to my lifespan just being in the tropics and if I check out there's not a better place to so and I told people to have the embassy ship my body home and I qualify for a spot in Arlington but any Veteran's cemetary will do.

I am a member of Pricesmart here in Colombia but because of the cheapness of Colombia in general it's hardly justified by cost to be a member and the fact that they sell all those yucky WalMart branded foods....

I just don't eat a lot of that stuff no more. Again people complain about costs If you compare food shopping in the DR to buying stuff at Whole Foods/ Whole Paycheck. you get "certified Organic" stuff for way cheaper from the markets. I would buy Pinapples off the street from a guy who brought them in from the campo probably less than 30 miles away. You cant beat that.
Copy that!!!   You sound more disciplined than me.   I will say this.  I know I will have to make some adjustments to my dining and spending habits now that Im back in Sosua.  A lot of restaurants are still tourist priced and taxed.   My shock of dining in the states for 4 days, made it easier for me not to feel the tourist price pinch here. 

But now that Im back, and celebrated my return with some of the fellows,  I can get back to my less touristy dining options.  Including one Dominican spot I get food from thats only 175 pesos for a simple meal.  And they also have stewed tender turkey meat that looks like oxtail.   Its a hole in the wall for locals,  but I like to get take out from time to time.   

Since Ive been back though there are several new eateries established.   So I dont mind checking out each one.   I used to go to the Chinese restaurant in Cabarete, but was advised that they closed down.  Hopefully temporarily.   I like the food and the trip there.  I also visited Friends restaurant directly across from the Chinese restaurant.  Like their food too.   Gorditos a Mexican style restaurant, I like too.   There is a Japanese restaurant next door, I need to check them out.  Being on the north coast feels like being on vacation where I live. 

Dining on the beach in Cabarete?  I like dining there, and the ambiance at night is great.  But I hate paying those touristy prices there.  Especially the 28% tax that enough add onto the bill.

Just thought of something else that has nothing to do with anything.  Another thing I like about living in the DR, Sosua or in general.  Traffic or any police,  dont trip on which direction you park your vehicle.  And thats helpful, because sometimes you need to roll up on a parking spot before it gets taken. 

You can just pull right into the spot, facing in the opposite direction.   In the states, they make you out to be a criminal if you are caught doing that. 

And also in the DR, they are not anal about having those speed traps and cameras all over the place like they do in various places in the states.   There are select areas in the DR where they do monitor speed.   I believe that happens mainly on the highway closer to Santo Domingo.   

I was in Brooklyn, NY with my buddy recently, with him pointing out to me all of the speed cameras that were placed almost everywhere.   Last year in Chicago, my radar detector and Waze app was working over time warning me of speed traps/cameras.   Thats another reason why I like living in the DR.  As long as I have my seatbelt on or my helmet,  Im good to go.     Gotta take the bad with the good though. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 11:50:19 AM
Wednesday Jan 11th 2023.   3 of us had a great lunch on the beach.  We all had the fried red snapper, with veggies, small salad and yellow rice with beans.  Also some creamy garlic sauce.  All compliments of Aris restaurant #67 on the beach.   We sat at a table in the sand.   For drinks, we got juices from the colmado on the beach just a few feet from where we were sitting.  2 16oz carrot juices and one 16oz chinola.  Very good, even though they were sweetened.  And only 200 pesos for all 3. 

While enjoying the food and scene, we were casually observing the comeback of maybe 2 dozen chicas  who were back on patrol looking for clients.  The visibility in the direction of Puerto Plata could not have been any clearer.   The weather on the beach was perfect.  It almost seemed as if I could feel the vitamin D being absorbed in me.  And thats another thing that I like about being in Sosua.  I tend to feel healthier, mentality and physically overall.   

Whereas, if I were in the states, especially where it was cold,  my hands would be dry, slightly ashy and shriveled up like an old man.  Joints might be a little stiff ,or out of sorts.  But when Im in the DR, my body  and spirit perks the f--k up.   I look and feel younger.    For me, its the simple things in life that I enjoy and deem satisfying.  It dont take much for me to be content here.   When Im ready to change my scene,  I have no problem using that passport, driving here, or taking public transpo.

That brings up another point. Since the DR is an Island there's juices and Green Coconuts sold Island wide. I'm not saying there's zero fresh sqeezed juice stands but they're not all over the place like in the DR. being in the Tropics you get the natural Vitamin D but you also automatically eat a plant based diet by default because fruit is sold everywhere.

I live in the Tropics but I don't see too many green Coconuts outside of the market which is far from where I live.
Yes outstanding observation.  Here in Sosua, I can balance and moderate my diet.  I can eat/drink for health, and I can also enjoy some of my indulgences, inmoderation.   When it comes to natural or special health products, I may find some here , bring them here, or order online.   Braggs ACV is available here.  I have ordered my 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine from Amazon.  Vitamins I couldnt find here, I ordered online and had it shipped here.  Sometimes I bought them from Pricesmart in Santiago.

I visited the Pricesmart in Medellin Colombia.  Thats when I was searching for certain foods to have in my airbnb.  The Pricesmart here in the DR will have a lot of food options for me that I might not find in Colombia.   Yes those fresh green coconuts is one of the best beverages one can consume daily.

When I get back to the DR I have to visit Pricesmart. I buddy offered to take me but you really learn to take care of your health even if you just need the energy to pipe down several 20 year olds without taking a daily cocktail of C&V.

Pat MacNamera said that perscrption meds are the devil and that you could and should reduce your use of them. Weight lifting and eating less processed foods keeps my BP regulated naturally.

The Sun is the best source for Vitamin D so no need for pills for that.

Exchanging fresh squeezed OJ for sodas helps keep blood sugars regulated.

Not to mention the lack of stress and cortisol by not working my normal 60 hours a week schedule.

Hell I'm probably adding about 20 years to my lifespan just being in the tropics and if I check out there's not a better place to so and I told people to have the embassy ship my body home and I qualify for a spot in Arlington but any Veteran's cemetary will do.

I am a member of Pricesmart here in Colombia but because of the cheapness of Colombia in general it's hardly justified by cost to be a member and the fact that they sell all those yucky WalMart branded foods....

I just don't eat a lot of that stuff no more. Again people complain about costs If you compare food shopping in the DR to buying stuff at Whole Foods/ Whole Paycheck. you get "certified Organic" stuff for way cheaper from the markets. I would buy Pinapples off the street from a guy who brought them in from the campo probably less than 30 miles away. You cant beat that.

Outstanding points bro! ☝🏾 sugar is so freakin addictive and we all are guilty. But eating healthy makes one feel so much better and being that all of us on this board is mongers we should want to eat shit that is going to make us “Strong like Bull” getting at them chicas…lol. Coconut milk is also one of the most important things you can consume on those islands…I’m a Sports-f--ker so I need to be hydrated all the time f--k all the alcohol, give me a good shot of coconut milk and some sun ☀️ and I’m ready to hurt somebody daughter.

Sugar is nature's cociane. In fact it gives you a quick rush and you want more. I recently got into a habit of buying Candy bars I resolved to leave them alone in '23.

I'm switching to Panela and Honey as sweetners Panela is a form of sugar but it's alledgely healtier.

The main reason for us to tamp down on Sugar is it f--ks with your dick ED is basically a lack of blood flow to the Penis. Sugar damages veins over time starting with the smallest ones.

That's why they start hacking at funky diabetics toes because sugar affects your extremities first. Your dick is also an extremity.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 12, 2023, 12:01:05 PM

When I get back to the DR I have to visit Pricesmart. I buddy offered to take me but you really learn to take care of your health even if you just need the energy to pipe down several 20 year olds without taking a daily cocktail of C&V.

Pat MacNamera said that perscrption meds are the devil and that you could and should reduce your use of them. Weight lifting and eating less processed foods keeps my BP regulated naturally.

The Sun is the best source for Vitamin D so no need for pills for that.

Exchanging fresh squeezed OJ for sodas helps keep blood sugars regulated.

Not to mention the lack of stress and cortisol by not working my normal 60 hours a week schedule.

Hell I'm probably adding about 20 years to my lifespan just being in the tropics and if I check out there's not a better place to so and I told people to have the embassy ship my body home and I qualify for a spot in Arlington but any Veteran's cemetary will do.

I am a member of Pricesmart here in Colombia but because of the cheapness of Colombia in general it's hardly justified by cost to be a member and the fact that they sell all those yucky WalMart branded foods....

I just don't eat a lot of that stuff no more. Again people complain about costs If you compare food shopping in the DR to buying stuff at Whole Foods/ Whole Paycheck. you get "certified Organic" stuff for way cheaper from the markets. I would buy Pinapples off the street from a guy who brought them in from the campo probably less than 30 miles away. You cant beat that.
Copy that!!!   You sound more disciplined than me.   I will say this.  I know I will have to make some adjustments to my dining and spending habits now that Im back in Sosua.  A lot of restaurants are still tourist priced and taxed.   My shock of dining in the states for 4 days, made it easier for me not to feel the tourist price pinch here. 

But now that Im back, and celebrated my return with some of the fellows,  I can get back to my less touristy dining options.  Including one Dominican spot I get food from thats only 175 pesos for a simple meal.  And they also have stewed tender turkey meat that looks like oxtail.   Its a hole in the wall for locals,  but I like to get take out from time to time.   

Since Ive been back though there are several new eateries established.   So I dont mind checking out each one.   I used to go to the Chinese restaurant in Cabarete, but was advised that they closed down.  Hopefully temporarily.   I like the food and the trip there.  I also visited Friends restaurant directly across from the Chinese restaurant.  Like their food too.   Gorditos a Mexican style restaurant, I like too.   There is a Japanese restaurant next door, I need to check them out.  Being on the north coast feels like being on vacation where I live. 

Dining on the beach in Cabarete?  I like dining there, and the ambiance at night is great.  But I hate paying those touristy prices there.  Especially the 28% tax that enough add onto the bill.

Just thought of something else that has nothing to do with anything.  Another thing I like about living in the DR, Sosua or in general.  Traffic or any police,  dont trip on which direction you park your vehicle.  And thats helpful, because sometimes you need to roll up on a parking spot before it gets taken. 

You can just pull right into the spot, facing in the opposite direction.   In the states, they make you out to be a criminal if you are caught doing that. 

And also in the DR, they are not anal about having those speed traps and cameras all over the place like they do in various places in the states.   There are select areas in the DR where they do monitor speed.   I believe that happens mainly on the highway closer to Santo Domingo.   

I was in Brooklyn, NY with my buddy recently, with him pointing out to me all of the speed cameras that were placed almost everywhere.   Last year in Chicago, my radar detector and Waze app was working over time warning me of speed traps/cameras.   Thats another reason why I like living in the DR.  As long as I have my seatbelt on or my helmet,  Im good to go.     Gotta take the bad with the good though.

Well I notice that brokesters tend to choose Cali over Medellin so other than drinking the few expats don't eat out that often. And I started 4 months ago eating every meal out and getting a Pizza around once or twice a week. My GF wanted Pizza last week and I didn't touch a sllce.
I've gained 20 pounds gotta do better.

I don't drive but living in the Police State that is american and going to the free wheeling liberatarian DR is a blessing. I used to budget 3k a year just for parking tickets. I used to get parking tickets on my car in Canada and I used to wonder why they bothered.

I do know the dude that dated my cousin had to go to court to pay his massive speeding tickets in Jamaica. I never saw a ticket in the DR and I remember one time I had a female Uber driver cuss out the Traffic cop near Blue Mall. I was amazed that she got away with that. Cop buddies told me that in the States if you piss off a Cop they will start finding violations.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 12:03:03 PM
Sugar is nature's cociane. In fact it gives you a quick rush and you want more. I recently got into a habit of buying Candy bars I resolved to leave them alone in '23.

I'm switching to Panela and Honey as sweetners Panela is a form of sugar but it's alledgely healtier.

The main reason for us to tamp down on Sugar is it f--ks with your dick ED is basically a lack of blood flow to the Penis. Sugar damages veins over time starting with the smallest ones.

That's why they start hacking at funky diabetics toes because sugar affects your extremities first. Your dick is also an extremity.
I concur your points.  Along with actively cutting back on sugar, and establishing more healthy options, I believe that adopting intermittent fasting can help as well.  Because it gives the body more time to break down all sugars ( especially from sugar overload ) , allows insulin and cortisol levels to stabilize, and maybe give the body a chance to reduce inflammation.    And for people who lack discipline, ( like me from time to time ) at least if you are eating less by fasting, one is already avoiding some sugar. 

I know for a fact that my BP and cholesterol levels are directly influenced by how much sugar and the type of sugar I consume.  I need to flat out drink more water than consuming all of those sweet beverages, and/or alcohol.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 12, 2023, 12:17:49 PM
Sir a lot of good points Sirs.Yup the American dating scene and just trying to get laid in the states is pitifull.Its totaley ,reversed rolls down here !,,Instead on being on eggs shells around women and dont want to mention any thing sexual as you may get fired or charged with a sexual crime,, f--k that, every guy over 30 thats not happily married should vist the DR Thialand or the phillipines.  the free loving 70s and 80s in the USA are long gone, with the Aids scare me to movment and feminazis,   easy access to pusy is long gone in the states,,What guys are got to realise its a macho county down here your in command,,,your the boss your the one with the pesos, Even if you have mongered in the states its a different ball game down here.its a learning curve, but once you have masterd the Art of selecting prime pussy your good to go! theres such an abundence of pussy thats up for grabs even a deaf dumb blind man can get laid if your 18-to 80 your gonna get your dick wet! you eran your stripes you can cosinder your self a whore master haha. like going into battle sure your going to ecounter mine fields. you may not get your leg blown off mabey your wallet drained or a broken heart if you go to deep..and if your victorious you win a fun battle , no pun intended.So if your 30 an older come on down have fun get your fill of pussy  !!!!!!
You have a way with words and murdering the English language as far as spelling, but I understood and copy what you said. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 12, 2023, 03:35:23 PM
I, like many here go all in on eating a Dominican diet(except for too much cilantro,lol). The veg and fruit is farm fresh, fresh coconut water every day (keep a jug in the fridge) and squeeze a 1/2 lime in every glass of water, 2-3 limes a day. Between this and swimming and walking every day my BP is down about 10 points after a month.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 12, 2023, 04:24:08 PM
Prices in the nice restaurants are creeping up, some justify it (well they all need to, the cost of food has gone nuts), and some are at full price and just not good enough.

Have stopped at La Catalina, Mi Mio, Nectar, Sea Horse Ranch, Coconuts, and Tuva. Sea Horse has taken a big jump, it's very good, a spectacular spot, but it will have to be an event place for me now. I can't keep that one in rotation.

Tuva I thought was taking the piss. The menus are worn out, and at $1200 for a pasta... Come on!

All these spots now have passed the $1800 mark for a steak, Sea Horse it is plus sides!

I cant really say that they are tourist spots although all have great locations. Nectar and Coconuts probably have the most tourists. The others are mostly well to do locals.

At Tuva today buddy came for a late lunch with four extremely well put together women. Likely the girlfriend and his daughter and her friends, or maybe he is banging them all! Certainly a full team of head turners that caught my attention.... Or maybe it's the fact they arrived by helicopter! 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 12, 2023, 05:10:05 PM
Prices are up every where across the island, no more so than the tourist ares. Just spent a month in Bavaro and the price of a beer at beach bar is 100% more than Sosua beach in 2020. Food at Jumbo(like Walmart) 50% more, it is so expensive there the locals go to Veron to do their shopping. 50 pesos on the guagua.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 08:03:56 AM
I, like many here go all in on eating a Dominican diet(except for too much cilantro,lol). The veg and fruit is farm fresh, fresh coconut water every day (keep a jug in the fridge) and squeeze a 1/2 lime in every glass of water, 2-3 limes a day. Between this and swimming and walking every day my BP is down about 10 points after a month.
Sounds good.  How long does your jug of coconut water stay fresh before it starts to spoil?   I used to buy a jug of the stuff from Antonio on the beach.  I wasnt drinking it quick enough, because in about 3 days It was starting to spoil.  One thing I hate ,is wasting good food.    I was pissed a week ago.  Shopped for groceries at La Sirena in PP.   Bought some wheat bread.   Never thought to look closely to the bread.

Put it in the freezer like I usually do.  When I eventually opened it up to get 2 slices, the whole loaf had mold on it.   I was SOL.  If I still had the receipt, I could have went to Super Pola, and maybe got it replaced. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 13, 2023, 08:40:07 AM
What's the shelf life on the pussy?

Interesting the observations/correlation between the food & the asking price for a shot of ass.  No matter how much the chica ask's because she states the cost of food is so high, the reality is that the majority of Dominicans live from day to day.  They shop daily because of lack of the large size refrigerators that the western world enjoys.  Often the portions are in the smallest qualities as well.  For example;  we buy a dozen eggs.  In the Dominican economy at the local colamado; you can buy eggs in quantities of 1 or even 2, 4 or 6.  Additionally; they can get eggs that are farm fresh direct from the chicken.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 13, 2023, 09:12:09 AM
What's the shelf life on the pussy?

Interesting the observations/correlation between the food & the asking price for a shot of ass.  No matter how much the chica ask's because she states the cost of food is so high, the reality is that the majority of Dominicans live from day to day.  They shop daily because of lack of the large size refrigerators that the western world enjoys.  Often the portions are in the smallest qualities as well.  For example;  we buy a dozen eggs.  In the Dominican economy at the local colamado; you can buy eggs in quantities of 1 or even 2, 4 or 6.  Additionally; they can get eggs that are farm fresh direct from the chicken.

That's how they move in most countries in the world. People buy what they need for at most a couple of days, French women go to buy their bread daily. China steps it up to "wet markets"where the animal is alive until you buy it.

When I first went to the DR I was amazed at how quickly Bananas and Pineapples spoil. I learned to buy them when they were still green. The issue is in the DR they don't have all the GMO food that has a shelf life of a month like it is in the states, That's why americans are so much fatter than the rest of the world, The more processed the food the longer it lasts but they take the nutrients out of it.

A McDonald's cheeseburger will last for months under glass but if you take some hamburger that you made at home and put it under glass it would go bad rather quickly.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 10:01:26 AM
Thursday Jan 12, 2023 8:30pm    Title of this story?  "Almost missing the fish"

So a Haitian chick on Tinder matches me almost a week ago.  I get her Whatsapp#.   Not sure if Ive seen her in Sosua before.  But it's possible.  Her circumstances suggests that she knows Sosua very well.  According to her, lives in Montellano since she was 8yrs old.  Has 2 kids, and looks like she maybe between 25 to 28.

Doesnt appear to have a job, so Im assuming she's been taken care of by an assortment of suitors over the years.   During our back and forth on Whatsapp,  I asked her what is she looking for.  Casual or a serious relationship?   She claims to want a serious relationship.   For her, thats going to present a problem,  because I am not exactly looking for a serious relationship. 

And I know all to often, the real definition of what having a serious relationship means to enough of these chicas, is having a solid financial support system.  Normally, I would expect a half way decent looking Haitian chica to already have some white dude, usually older taking care of the Haitian chick, her kids and maybe the family.  But I just happened to catch a completely single chick on Tinder.

Anyway, we have been playing tag trying to arrange a meeting.   I lose interest quick if a meeting takes too long to happen.  And that was happening with her as well.  I hate the preliminaries of the getting to know you phase.    This chick hung in there.  Just when I thought she wasnt going to bother with us trying to meet for a 3rd time, she contacts me.   

I agree to a meet, at the Metro bus station in Sosua.  She set the time for 8pm.  Im an anal dude when it comes to being on time.  I dont care what country Im in, I dont cater to people being late, even if they are accustomed to that.   Why so?   Because when something is really really important to someone,  thats the time they may go out of their way and break all customs to make sure they are where they need to be.

So if a chick cant give me that courtesy or level of respect for the time I am giving her,  we are going to have a problem.  I arrive at the bus station early.   I want to see her when she arrives.  That way I can decide on whether or not I want to continue with this meeting.   I did no video chat with this chick at all.   Im going strictly by her Tinder photos and animated videos.

I advised the chick that I was on my way.  Asked where are you?  Claims she is in a taxi, but still in Montellano.   Now I already know, the world doesnt revolve around my needs and sensitivities, but I hate when people dont exercise being practical, thoughtful and communicative in certain matters.  Like being on time for a meeting.    Ideally, I would want a chick ( or anybody for that matter ) who is supposed to be somewhere at a certain time,  to calculate what they need to do and when in order to be somewhere on time. 

If that means getting prepared in advance, then that is exactly what an individual should do.  Get your clothes together, take your shower, handle whatever you need to handle before you leave.  And calculate how much time you need for travel, in order to be somewhere on time.  If you need 45 minutes travel time, then make sure you calculate for that.  Dont leave 20 minutes before time you are supposed to be somewhere, and think that that is ok.  It's not.  At least with me. 

It boggles my mind the things that a lot of guys put up with in dealing with how some chicks DONT manage their time.  What Im talking about is not hard at all.  In fact quite simple.  I do that shit daily.  I feel uncomfortable if I dont give myself enough time to prepare to be somewhere, especially for a meeting or an appointment.   And I'm not ex military either.  Im just wired like that.

I realize that there are some things that cant be avoided.  In her case, the bridge being out getting to Sosua from Montellano.  But see?  She already knows the bridge is out.  And that being the case, she should have left her place even earlier.  Moreover, advise me on when she was leaving.   Which is another area Im baffled by.  Here we have all of this technology at our disposal, and some people wont use it.   If I was coming from Montellano, I would have gave a later time for the meet, knowing I was not going to be in Sosua by 8pm.   I would have left early to head to the meet.   

And now drumroll please.  I would have notified the person who I am meeting that I am on my way.  Giving myself enough time for waiting for a taxi, the detour, and travel time.  And I would not wait for them to ask me, if I am on my way.  I will advise them the time that I was on my way.  And if I foresee a delay in getting to the meet, message the person where I am on the way,  and advising them that I may be late.   

Thats the way I feel it should be done.  To me, thats being practical.   It makes no sense for a chick to go dark, and just show up somewhere late without any communication.  The person waiting for you, shouldnt have to track you down to get updates on your travel.  Ok, now that I got that off of my chest. LOL

I message the chick that I am leaving since she is not there , and hasnt advised me of her status.  All of a sudden she's blowing up my phone with several texts telling me about the bridge being damaged.  An excuse, I care less about  Because I know she knew the bridge was out and that more time was needed.   But thats typical when it comes to enough locals.  Many dont take responsibility for anything,  they tend to make excuses.   

I actually did not leave.  My vehicle was still parked at the Metro station.  I was curious to see what this chick looked like.  I walked across the street and stood by the big Chinese store.  By then she was now trying to call me.  It's amazing how a chick can go from no communication, no updates,  to now taking this meeting seriously.   

I spot her crossing the street from the taxi to the parking lot.  1st thing I notice was a very plump round ass in white stretch shorts.   She was only 5' or 5" 1",   The only reason why I thought it was her,is because she looked like she was looking for somebody.

Sexy looking muthablubba.   I walked across the street towards her and my car,  and the chick recognizes me right away.  No hestitation.  We smile and embrace.  I playfully scolded her for being late.  She playfully took it well.  So I leave my car at the Metro station and walk her over to Wings and Waffles over by hotel Las Palmeras.   

This is where I want to vett the chick, so I know what to do with her.  Right off the bat the vibe was good.  At 1st I thought she was going to be one of those super quiet types.  Not saying anything unless asked something.  But that wasnt the case.  She spoke fluent Spanish, and knew some English, and was definitely comfortable and fluent speaking Creole.  If she only spoke Creole, I would have trouble.   Using a translator with Creole and English, does not always go well.   But her skill with Spanish made it easy for me to communicate with out a translator.   We even had fun with her teaching me some Creole, and me teaching her some English.

She ordered a pasta meal, and a Presidente.  I just drank water.  I was still full from eating there earlier for lunch.  I was not happy about my lunch earlier ( I will explain later ).   She eats some of her food, finishes the cerveza and we head to my crib.   We chill on the couch with a lot of soft touchy feely shit going on. 
So far this is going well.  But really, Im thinking about smashing that juicy ass of hers.  But pretending to be entertained by the movie. 

Eventually we retire to the bedroom, and baby is very comfortable getting out of her clothes.  I suggested a massage. And she accepts.  What I like about enough Haitian chicks,  is that sometimes when you suggest giving them a massage,  they will initiate giving you a massage 1st.   She showers, comes out and lays on the bed.  I go to work trying to get this chick in the mood. 

She offers me a massage, so I go shower.   She does a good job, and I find out that she has worked in a salon in Sosua somewhere giving massages.  Absolutely no surprise to me.  She looks like she is quite familiar and comfortable being in Sosua.  But none of that matters right now.   Im doing what many cats would like to do back in the Matrix.   Which is to be getting a GFE vibe from a chick about to be smashed within an hour of meeting her. 

The sex was ok, but a bit of a challenge for me, because Im used to going raw with my regulars.  But at least the juicebox was nice and wet and responsive.  Unfortunately for me, she offered no oral skills , and not much into kissing.  If she was a good kisser and/or the oral skills were on point,  I would have had a better session overall. 

Even though she spent the night,  I did not feel that comfortable in the bed with her, like I do with 2 of my frequent regulars.  One is Haitiana and the other a dark Dominicana that could pass for a Haitians.  With her it felt more like she was going with the flow.  Doing what she needed to do,  to secure a sponser/supporter.   Which is already understood to be the case, it's just that my regulars seem to be more personable when were together.    To this chicks credit,  she was not on her phone all night like some chicks do.

I have a new problem brewing though.  She really does see me as a potentially new pretend $boyfriend$.  She was talking about coming to the beach with her kids on Saturday ( presumably to hook up with me ) ,  and also volunteering to clean my place sometime soon.  Im not interested in spending my afternoon at the beach entertaining her and her kids.  I know one expat dude that does that with chicks on the regular.   He's paying for shit all afternoon,  while a shitload of eye candy is passing by him in every direction.   

From a dating perspective, Chuck Woollery from the Love Connection show would have approved of my Tinder date.  However, from a guy who loves being carefree, single and loves to travel, Ima have to communicate with this lady so we can sort things out, and both get what we want/need.   I cant be a real boyfriend.  But I can be a pretend BF,  with limitations on the benefits Im willing offer.   But we both got to do better in the bedroom for me to even consider taking it further.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 10:38:56 AM
Thursday Jan 12, 2023 12:30pm 

Been wanting to check out Wings and Waffles restaurant.  It opened way before I got back to Sosua this Dec.
Tried the Fried Fish with Cajun sauce with a side order of grits.  Also I added 2 scrambled eggs.
The grits looked good, sort of yellowish.  But they were firm.  You could cut it with a knife.  The fried fish looked good.  But after a few bites, the fish appeared sort of rubbery with a thin crust.  The crust could throw you off, making one think that the fish was going to be good.   But to me it wasnt.  That meal was 725 pesos.  Mind you this meal is like a breakfast.   Kinda expensive even for DR standards.

Id give the whole thing a pass if all of the food was excellent tasting and properly prepared.  The firm grits was warm.  Al Green would have approved.   The eggs added 100 pesos to the bill, and they charge 18% tax on the bill. 

Even if I was a tourist, the price of my meal wouldnt have been part of the issue if the food was great.   

So my breakfast type meal cost me over 1000 pesos.    And last night with the chick she had the chicken with pasta, a beer, and me a water, that was over a 1000 pesos.  She fed me some of her food.  I thought that meal was tasty,  including her garlic bread.   Thing is, there are several restaurants in Sosua where I can get the same thing for about 200 pesos less.   Elefante Rosso,  Good Fellas, and the Italiano restaurante across from Mr Flip Flop.   And there are others in town.   

Also the hip hop music sucked.  Thats the kind of stuff the owner plays at his spot on the beach.  Owner is a nice guy.  I wish him success.  But for me, I probably wont be going there very often.  Maybe more for convenience,  like for vetting a chick
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 13, 2023, 12:39:30 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!  But on a real; you gotta give the 3rd world chicas some slack when it comes to trying to be on time.  The majority of the women (In that male dominated society) not only are undereducated but are also single mother's that gotta jump thru some 3rd world hoops in order to see you.  Even if ultimately the prize is gaining a WU Boyfriend or even a ST that equates to quick cash. The reality is that the chicas do indeed have struggles getting from "Point A to Point B".  These challenges are compounded significantly when you realize that they have extremely less resources than we do.

Now in the PFP world, you gotta look at where is this chica coming from?  Thats what makes Sosua sooo great.  Chicas on the stroll everywhere with no issues of transportation or babysitters.  When I'm dealing with chicas that I know are in town for work, when we make a date to link-up at a certain time; I give them plus or minus 15 minutes.  I let them know that they will be replaced if they are not on time.  Further I inform them that my vacation time is too valuable to me and I am not going to waste it waiting on 1 particular chica when the town is filled with hundreds of girls that are in need of money.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on January 13, 2023, 12:50:03 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!

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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 13, 2023, 01:53:35 PM
Thursday Jan 12, 2023 8:30pm    Title of this story?  "Almost missing the fish"

So a Haitian chick on Tinder matches me almost a week ago.  I get her Whatsapp#.   Not sure if Ive seen her in Sosua before.  But it's possible.  Her circumstances suggests that she knows Sosua very well.  According to her, lives in Montellano since she was 8yrs old.  Has 2 kids, and looks like she maybe between 25 to 28.

Doesnt appear to have a job, so Im assuming she's been taken care of by an assortment of suitors over the years.   During our back and forth on Whatsapp,  I asked her what is she looking for.  Casual or a serious relationship?   She claims to want a serious relationship.   For her, thats going to present a problem,  because I am not exactly looking for a serious relationship. 

And I know all to often, the real definition of what having a serious relationship means to enough of these chicas, is having a solid financial support system.  Normally, I would expect a half way decent looking Haitian chica to already have some white dude, usually older taking care of the Haitian chick, her kids and maybe the family.  But I just happened to catch a completely single chick on Tinder.

Anyway, we have been playing tag trying to arrange a meeting.   I lose interest quick if a meeting takes too long to happen.  And that was happening with her as well.  I hate the preliminaries of the getting to know you phase.    This chick hung in there.  Just when I thought she wasnt going to bother with us trying to meet for a 3rd time, she contacts me.   

I agree to a meet, at the Metro bus station in Sosua.  She set the time for 8pm.  Im an anal dude when it comes to being on time.  I dont care what country Im in, I dont cater to people being late, even if they are accustomed to that.   Why so?   Because when something is really really important to someone,  thats the time they may go out of their way and break all customs to make sure they are where they need to be.

So if a chick cant give me that courtesy or level of respect for the time I am giving her,  we are going to have a problem.  I arrive at the bus station early.   I want to see her when she arrives.  That way I can decide on whether or not I want to continue with this meeting.   I did no video chat with this chick at all.   Im going strictly by her Tinder photos and animated videos.

I advised the chick that I was on my way.  Asked where are you?  Claims she is in a taxi, but still in Montellano.   Now I already know, the world doesnt revolve around my needs and sensitivities, but I hate when people dont exercise being practical, thoughtful and communicative in certain matters.  Like being on time for a meeting.    Ideally, I would want a chick ( or anybody for that matter ) who is supposed to be somewhere at a certain time,  to calculate what they need to do and when in order to be somewhere on time. 

If that means getting prepared in advance, then that is exactly what an individual should do.  Get your clothes together, take your shower, handle whatever you need to handle before you leave.  And calculate how much time you need for travel, in order to be somewhere on time.  If you need 45 minutes travel time, then make sure you calculate for that.  Dont leave 20 minutes before time you are supposed to be somewhere, and think that that is ok.  It's not.  At least with me. 

It boggles my mind the things that a lot of guys put up with in dealing with how some chicks DONT manage their time.  What Im talking about is not hard at all.  In fact quite simple.  I do that shit daily.  I feel uncomfortable if I dont give myself enough time to prepare to be somewhere, especially for a meeting or an appointment.   And I'm not ex military either.  Im just wired like that.

I realize that there are some things that cant be avoided.  In her case, the bridge being out getting to Sosua from Montellano.  But see?  She already knows the bridge is out.  And that being the case, she should have left her place even earlier.  Moreover, advise me on when she was leaving.   Which is another area Im baffled by.  Here we have all of this technology at our disposal, and some people wont use it.   If I was coming from Montellano, I would have gave a later time for the meet, knowing I was not going to be in Sosua by 8pm.   I would have left early to head to the meet.   

And now drumroll please.  I would have notified the person who I am meeting that I am on my way.  Giving myself enough time for waiting for a taxi, the detour, and travel time.  And I would not wait for them to ask me, if I am on my way.  I will advise them the time that I was on my way.  And if I foresee a delay in getting to the meet, message the person where I am on the way,  and advising them that I may be late.   

Thats the way I feel it should be done.  To me, thats being practical.   It makes no sense for a chick to go dark, and just show up somewhere late without any communication.  The person waiting for you, shouldnt have to track you down to get updates on your travel.  Ok, now that I got that off of my chest. LOL

I message the chick that I am leaving since she is not there , and hasnt advised me of her status.  All of a sudden she's blowing up my phone with several texts telling me about the bridge being damaged.  An excuse, I care less about  Because I know she knew the bridge was out and that more time was needed.   But thats typical when it comes to enough locals.  Many dont take responsibility for anything,  they tend to make excuses.   

I actually did not leave.  My vehicle was still parked at the Metro station.  I was curious to see what this chick looked like.  I walked across the street and stood by the big Chinese store.  By then she was now trying to call me.  It's amazing how a chick can go from no communication, no updates,  to now taking this meeting seriously.   

I spot her crossing the street from the taxi to the parking lot.  1st thing I notice was a very plump round ass in white stretch shorts.   She was only 5' or 5" 1",   The only reason why I thought it was her,is because she looked like she was looking for somebody.

Sexy looking muthablubba.   I walked across the street towards her and my car,  and the chick recognizes me right away.  No hestitation.  We smile and embrace.  I playfully scolded her for being late.  She playfully took it well.  So I leave my car at the Metro station and walk her over to Wings and Waffles over by hotel Las Palmeras.   

This is where I want to vett the chick, so I know what to do with her.  Right off the bat the vibe was good.  At 1st I thought she was going to be one of those super quiet types.  Not saying anything unless asked something.  But that wasnt the case.  She spoke fluent Spanish, and knew some English, and was definitely comfortable and fluent speaking Creole.  If she only spoke Creole, I would have trouble.   Using a translator with Creole and English, does not always go well.   But her skill with Spanish made it easy for me to communicate with out a translator.   We even had fun with her teaching me some Creole, and me teaching her some English.

She ordered a pasta meal, and a Presidente.  I just drank water.  I was still full from eating there earlier for lunch.  I was not happy about my lunch earlier ( I will explain later ).   She eats some of her food, finishes the cerveza and we head to my crib.   We chill on the couch with a lot of soft touchy feely shit going on. 
So far this is going well.  But really, Im thinking about smashing that juicy ass of hers.  But pretending to be entertained by the movie. 

Eventually we retire to the bedroom, and baby is very comfortable getting out of her clothes.  I suggested a massage. And she accepts.  What I like about enough Haitian chicks,  is that sometimes when you suggest giving them a massage,  they will initiate giving you a massage 1st.   She showers, comes out and lays on the bed.  I go to work trying to get this chick in the mood. 

She offers me a massage, so I go shower.   She does a good job, and I find out that she has worked in a salon in Sosua somewhere giving massages.  Absolutely no surprise to me.  She looks like she is quite familiar and comfortable being in Sosua.  But none of that matters right now.   Im doing what many cats would like to do back in the Matrix.   Which is to be getting a GFE vibe from a chick about to be smashed within an hour of meeting her. 

The sex was ok, but a bit of a challenge for me, because Im used to going raw with my regulars.  But at least the juicebox was nice and wet and responsive.  Unfortunately for me, she offered no oral skills , and not much into kissing.  If she was a good kisser and/or the oral skills were on point,  I would have had a better session overall. 

Even though she spent the night,  I did not feel that comfortable in the bed with her, like I do with 2 of my frequent regulars.  One is Haitiana and the other a dark Dominicana that could pass for a Haitians.  With her it felt more like she was going with the flow.  Doing what she needed to do,  to secure a sponser/supporter.   Which is already understood to be the case, it's just that my regulars seem to be more personable when were together.    To this chicks credit,  she was not on her phone all night like some chicks do.

I have a new problem brewing though.  She really does see me as a potentially new pretend $boyfriend$.  She was talking about coming to the beach with her kids on Saturday ( presumably to hook up with me ) ,  and also volunteering to clean my place sometime soon.  Im not interested in spending my afternoon at the beach entertaining her and her kids.  I know one expat dude that does that with chicks on the regular.   He's paying for shit all afternoon,  while a shitload of eye candy is passing by him in every direction.   

From a dating perspective, Chuck Woollery from the Love Connection show would have approved of my Tinder date.  However, from a guy who loves being carefree, single and loves to travel, Ima have to communicate with this lady so we can sort things out, and both get what we want/need.   I cant be a real boyfriend.  But I can be a pretend BF,  with limitations on the benefits Im willing offer.   But we both got to do better in the bedroom for me to even consider taking it further.   

To me the vetting process is continuous.  If she's being audtioned as a regular then kisses and long deep blow jobs is standard. Better to know what kind of chica you have upfront especially mongers who deal with Black women from Black countries were you better ask if you want head.

Generally I don't overnight on a first meet because the chica may not be expecting that and she's expected to not come home empty handed so if you intend to go raw go raw immediately if you are so inclined. Usually but not all the time this includes cumming in her pussy (in fact most chicas objections are not because of STI's it's because of possible pregnancies) even though it's quite normal for a girl to pop in a store and get a morning after pill (The DR is the only place where I saw AD's for abortion pills) it's polite to ask before nutting.  Whether she's cool with being inseminated or not unless you pulled out too late I expect her to swallow.
To me a total rejection of my DNA is a lowkey rejection of me and it would be almost impossible for a chick like that to make it to my regular roster.

Also I always give a chick a job after I nut and before I pay, even if it's as simple as making me coffee. Again say what you want about Dominicanas cooking and cleaning is standard behavior even for p4p. It's not in Colombia, in fact I remember meeting a girl in a club and agreeing for her to come over to cook clean and f--k, she did all three but she said Next time I just want to have sex. That was the first time a chick ever said that to me.

And of course the last thing you do is to pay them, If she doesn't rtust you to pay after she does her job then it won't work you have to establish the parameters of the relationship upfront. If fact usually if I get a call and I accept then that means a trip to the ATM after we f--k.

This is what I do but I don't get Requests for money or baby scares, In fact  for years I assumed that I must have a low sperm count until a GF told me that probably girls take BC. Once I had a girl agree to a cum in pussy and she asked for a little more to get an injection apparently she didn't take pills she injected herself in the ass.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 13, 2023, 02:01:10 PM
Thursday Jan 12, 2023 12:30pm 

Been wanting to check out Wings and Waffles restaurant.  It opened way before I got back to Sosua this Dec.
Tried the Fried Fish with Cajun sauce with a side order of grits.  Also I added 2 scrambled eggs.
The grits looked good, sort of yellowish.  But they were firm.  You could cut it with a knife.  The fried fish looked good.  But after a few bites, the fish appeared sort of rubbery with a thin crust.  The crust could throw you off, making one think that the fish was going to be good.   But to me it wasnt.  That meal was 725 pesos.  Mind you this meal is like a breakfast.   Kinda expensive even for DR standards.

Id give the whole thing a pass if all of the food was excellent tasting and properly prepared.  The firm grits was warm.  Al Green would have approved.   The eggs added 100 pesos to the bill, and they charge 18% tax on the bill. 

Even if I was a tourist, the price of my meal wouldnt have been part of the issue if the food was great.   

So my breakfast type meal cost me over 1000 pesos.    And last night with the chick she had the chicken with pasta, a beer, and me a water, that was over a 1000 pesos.  She fed me some of her food.  I thought that meal was tasty,  including her garlic bread.   Thing is, there are several restaurants in Sosua where I can get the same thing for about 200 pesos less.   Elefante Rosso,  Good Fellas, and the Italiano restaurante across from Mr Flip Flop.   And there are others in town.   

Also the hip hop music sucked.  Thats the kind of stuff the owner plays at his spot on the beach.  Owner is a nice guy.  I wish him success.  But for me, I probably wont be going there very often.  Maybe more for convenience,  like for vetting a chick

I heard the spot was expensive and homie heavily markets to the clueless Dub Dubs Unless he cooks the shit himself I don't know why he thinks that Soul food will pop off.

I see what you did there with the Al Green reference, but other than Brother Al who wants stiff grits? But I can see a Domininca assuming that it should be prepared like they prepare rice.

Wings and Waffles is kind of the business I would go to for drinks or maybe Waffles only (never understood the concept of eating chicken with waffles) just to support a Black owned business, but that's the problem as it stands now I support several "help a brother out" businesses in Sosua as it is. Finger Finger makes a naked appeal to support a brother he never suggests that you f--k with his spot because you'd actually like the food.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 13, 2023, 02:44:42 PM
Thursday Jan 12, 2023 8:30pm    Title of this story?  "Almost missing the fish"

So a Haitian chick on Tinder matches me almost a week ago.  I get her Whatsapp#.   Not sure if Ive seen her in Sosua before.  But it's possible.  Her circumstances suggests that she knows Sosua very well.  According to her, lives in Montellano since she was 8yrs old.  Has 2 kids, and looks like she maybe between 25 to 28.

Doesnt appear to have a job, so Im assuming she's been taken care of by an assortment of suitors over the years.   During our back and forth on Whatsapp,  I asked her what is she looking for.  Casual or a serious relationship?   She claims to want a serious relationship.   For her, thats going to present a problem,  because I am not exactly looking for a serious relationship. 

And I know all to often, the real definition of what having a serious relationship means to enough of these chicas, is having a solid financial support system.  Normally, I would expect a half way decent looking Haitian chica to already have some white dude, usually older taking care of the Haitian chick, her kids and maybe the family.  But I just happened to catch a completely single chick on Tinder.

Anyway, we have been playing tag trying to arrange a meeting.   I lose interest quick if a meeting takes too long to happen.  And that was happening with her as well.  I hate the preliminaries of the getting to know you phase.    This chick hung in there.  Just when I thought she wasnt going to bother with us trying to meet for a 3rd time, she contacts me.   

I agree to a meet, at the Metro bus station in Sosua.  She set the time for 8pm.  Im an anal dude when it comes to being on time.  I dont care what country Im in, I dont cater to people being late, even if they are accustomed to that.   Why so?   Because when something is really really important to someone,  thats the time they may go out of their way and break all customs to make sure they are where they need to be.

So if a chick cant give me that courtesy or level of respect for the time I am giving her,  we are going to have a problem.  I arrive at the bus station early.   I want to see her when she arrives.  That way I can decide on whether or not I want to continue with this meeting.   I did no video chat with this chick at all.   Im going strictly by her Tinder photos and animated videos.

I advised the chick that I was on my way.  Asked where are you?  Claims she is in a taxi, but still in Montellano.   Now I already know, the world doesnt revolve around my needs and sensitivities, but I hate when people dont exercise being practical, thoughtful and communicative in certain matters.  Like being on time for a meeting.    Ideally, I would want a chick ( or anybody for that matter ) who is supposed to be somewhere at a certain time,  to calculate what they need to do and when in order to be somewhere on time. 

If that means getting prepared in advance, then that is exactly what an individual should do.  Get your clothes together, take your shower, handle whatever you need to handle before you leave.  And calculate how much time you need for travel, in order to be somewhere on time.  If you need 45 minutes travel time, then make sure you calculate for that.  Dont leave 20 minutes before time you are supposed to be somewhere, and think that that is ok.  It's not.  At least with me. 

It boggles my mind the things that a lot of guys put up with in dealing with how some chicks DONT manage their time.  What Im talking about is not hard at all.  In fact quite simple.  I do that shit daily.  I feel uncomfortable if I dont give myself enough time to prepare to be somewhere, especially for a meeting or an appointment.   And I'm not ex military either.  Im just wired like that.

I realize that there are some things that cant be avoided.  In her case, the bridge being out getting to Sosua from Montellano.  But see?  She already knows the bridge is out.  And that being the case, she should have left her place even earlier.  Moreover, advise me on when she was leaving.   Which is another area Im baffled by.  Here we have all of this technology at our disposal, and some people wont use it.   If I was coming from Montellano, I would have gave a later time for the meet, knowing I was not going to be in Sosua by 8pm.   I would have left early to head to the meet.   

And now drumroll please.  I would have notified the person who I am meeting that I am on my way.  Giving myself enough time for waiting for a taxi, the detour, and travel time.  And I would not wait for them to ask me, if I am on my way.  I will advise them the time that I was on my way.  And if I foresee a delay in getting to the meet, message the person where I am on the way,  and advising them that I may be late.   

Thats the way I feel it should be done.  To me, thats being practical.   It makes no sense for a chick to go dark, and just show up somewhere late without any communication.  The person waiting for you, shouldnt have to track you down to get updates on your travel.  Ok, now that I got that off of my chest. LOL

I message the chick that I am leaving since she is not there , and hasnt advised me of her status.  All of a sudden she's blowing up my phone with several texts telling me about the bridge being damaged.  An excuse, I care less about  Because I know she knew the bridge was out and that more time was needed.   But thats typical when it comes to enough locals.  Many dont take responsibility for anything,  they tend to make excuses.   

I actually did not leave.  My vehicle was still parked at the Metro station.  I was curious to see what this chick looked like.  I walked across the street and stood by the big Chinese store.  By then she was now trying to call me.  It's amazing how a chick can go from no communication, no updates,  to now taking this meeting seriously.   

I spot her crossing the street from the taxi to the parking lot.  1st thing I notice was a very plump round ass in white stretch shorts.   She was only 5' or 5" 1",   The only reason why I thought it was her,is because she looked like she was looking for somebody.

Sexy looking muthablubba.   I walked across the street towards her and my car,  and the chick recognizes me right away.  No hestitation.  We smile and embrace.  I playfully scolded her for being late.  She playfully took it well.  So I leave my car at the Metro station and walk her over to Wings and Waffles over by hotel Las Palmeras.   

This is where I want to vett the chick, so I know what to do with her.  Right off the bat the vibe was good.  At 1st I thought she was going to be one of those super quiet types.  Not saying anything unless asked something.  But that wasnt the case.  She spoke fluent Spanish, and knew some English, and was definitely comfortable and fluent speaking Creole.  If she only spoke Creole, I would have trouble.   Using a translator with Creole and English, does not always go well.   But her skill with Spanish made it easy for me to communicate with out a translator.   We even had fun with her teaching me some Creole, and me teaching her some English.

She ordered a pasta meal, and a Presidente.  I just drank water.  I was still full from eating there earlier for lunch.  I was not happy about my lunch earlier ( I will explain later ).   She eats some of her food, finishes the cerveza and we head to my crib.   We chill on the couch with a lot of soft touchy feely shit going on. 
So far this is going well.  But really, Im thinking about smashing that juicy ass of hers.  But pretending to be entertained by the movie. 

Eventually we retire to the bedroom, and baby is very comfortable getting out of her clothes.  I suggested a massage. And she accepts.  What I like about enough Haitian chicks,  is that sometimes when you suggest giving them a massage,  they will initiate giving you a massage 1st.   She showers, comes out and lays on the bed.  I go to work trying to get this chick in the mood. 

She offers me a massage, so I go shower.   She does a good job, and I find out that she has worked in a salon in Sosua somewhere giving massages.  Absolutely no surprise to me.  She looks like she is quite familiar and comfortable being in Sosua.  But none of that matters right now.   Im doing what many cats would like to do back in the Matrix.   Which is to be getting a GFE vibe from a chick about to be smashed within an hour of meeting her. 

The sex was ok, but a bit of a challenge for me, because Im used to going raw with my regulars.  But at least the juicebox was nice and wet and responsive.  Unfortunately for me, she offered no oral skills , and not much into kissing.  If she was a good kisser and/or the oral skills were on point,  I would have had a better session overall. 

Even though she spent the night,  I did not feel that comfortable in the bed with her, like I do with 2 of my frequent regulars.  One is Haitiana and the other a dark Dominicana that could pass for a Haitians.  With her it felt more like she was going with the flow.  Doing what she needed to do,  to secure a sponser/supporter.   Which is already understood to be the case, it's just that my regulars seem to be more personable when were together.    To this chicks credit,  she was not on her phone all night like some chicks do.

I have a new problem brewing though.  She really does see me as a potentially new pretend $boyfriend$.  She was talking about coming to the beach with her kids on Saturday ( presumably to hook up with me ) ,  and also volunteering to clean my place sometime soon.  Im not interested in spending my afternoon at the beach entertaining her and her kids.  I know one expat dude that does that with chicks on the regular.   He's paying for shit all afternoon,  while a shitload of eye candy is passing by him in every direction.   

From a dating perspective, Chuck Woollery from the Love Connection show would have approved of my Tinder date.  However, from a guy who loves being carefree, single and loves to travel, Ima have to communicate with this lady so we can sort things out, and both get what we want/need.   I cant be a real boyfriend.  But I can be a pretend BF,  with limitations on the benefits Im willing offer.   But we both got to do better in the bedroom for me to even consider taking it further.   

I matched a chick on Tinder, lied to get some free pussy, she was late, pissed me off, banged her anyway, won't call her again.

Cliff*

*Cole if you're a Canuck
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Pussyrus1422 on January 13, 2023, 03:02:05 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!

THIS


When I see some of his post, I always think about the poor souls that visit this website using a tablet or an I Phone. The scrolling must take days to complete....
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Azzman on January 13, 2023, 04:02:10 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!

THIS


When I see some of his post, I always think about the poor souls that visit this website using a tablet or an I Phone. The scrolling must take days to complete....

YES, yes it does! Just please don’t talk about COVID and I think we all can deal with all other subjects…lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 05:18:44 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!  But on a real; you gotta give the 3rd world chicas some slack when it comes to trying to be on time.  The majority of the women (In that male dominated society) not only are undereducated but are also single mother's that gotta jump thru some 3rd world hoops in order to see you.  Even if ultimately the prize is gaining a WU Boyfriend or even a ST that equates to quick cash. The reality is that the chicas do indeed have struggles getting from "Point A to Point B".  These challenges are compounded significantly when you realize that they have extremely less resources than we do.

Now in the PFP world, you gotta look at where is this chica coming from?  Thats what makes Sosua sooo great.  Chicas on the stroll everywhere with no issues of transportation or babysitters.  When I'm dealing with chicas that I know are in town for work, when we make a date to link-up at a certain time; I give them plus or minus 15 minutes.  I let them know that they will be replaced if they are not on time.  Further I inform them that my vacation time is too valuable to me and I am not going to waste it waiting on 1 particular chica when the town is filled with hundreds of girls that are in need of money.
You say one should give 3rd world chicas some slack about being late?   For what?

I dont think the 3rd world women working at banks, the supermarkets, WU, the hospitals, clinics, insurance offices, dentist offices go by that suggestion?  No they dont.  They know that if they treat their jobs like being on time is unimportant, they will lose their job to somebody else who does know how to act responsibly.   

And that goes for any other job in the DR.  You think Caribe Tours or Metro bus drivers, can just show up to work past their start time, whenever they please?   Not call their employers to offer feedback or updates, just show up whenever they get there?

The women I just mentioned may have the same circumstances as the p4p chicas.   And maybe earning a lot less.   Why are most of them able to make it to work on time?  Why are they able to call ahead and inform their employer of possibly being delayed?   Why are they able to figure out that they need to estimate how much time they may need to be somewhere, taking into consideration known problems?.   

If this is a male dominated society as you say, then you should already have the understanding that sometimes men need to let women know how they expect to be treated.  Whats wrong in this country now, is that so many people lack structure.  And nobody takes the time to give them structure, encourage structure and monitor a chicks progress.  Well Im that guy who takes how I want to be treated seriously, and in my own hands.  I dont sit idly by and just let chicks treat my time however they want. 

I have had numerous regulars over the years.  Some of them had to be trained on how to handle  appointments/commitments and communication with me.  The problem was, enough of them,  never had dudes check them.  Instead they had bleeding heart dudes feeling sorry for them.  Thinking they need someone to cut them some slack.  That mentality that some men put out there, is what has set men back iin general, when dealing with women, especially in the states.   Men are cutting women slack in dating, marriage, divorce and family court.  All of that slack cutting has cost men dearly. 

And why dudes keep treating women like children by calling them 3rd world women?  Cause like I said,  women working regular jobs are also 3rd world women, and that dont incapacitate a woman from doing what is necessary to put food on the table.  If it means being responsible and being on time,  then thats what a woman should do.  The reason why you see the same women working for years somewhere,  is because they did what they needed to do,  so they wouldnt get fired or replaced.

In a male dominated society there is no need to cut a chick any slack.  Keep that f--ked up philosophy back in the states where it belongs.  In the DR, we have the resources they want, and they are sub contractors.  Nobody should be accepting BS excuses for being late,  especially if a chick is f--king around on your time/dime.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 05:27:44 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!

THIS


When I see some of his post, I always think about the poor souls that visit this website using a tablet or an I Phone. The scrolling must take days to complete....

YES, yes it does! Just please don’t talk about COVID and I think we all can deal with all other subjects…lol
Well fortunately, there may be less people around to even talk about it since the rollout.   A lot has happened and been revealed since last year when it was covered in the General Discussion section.  Many people dont have a lot to say anymore since a lot of falsehoods have been revealed.   Nobody wants to be reminded or hear, "We told you they were wrong "
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 05:35:48 PM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!

THIS


When I see some of his post, I always think about the poor souls that visit this website using a tablet or an I Phone. The scrolling must take days to complete....
I always think about the poor souls complaining about material that nobody is forcing them to read. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 06:08:05 PM
Many of us can remember the way a lot of chicas used to roll in the DR.  Back then we may not have had cell phones.  If we were out and about, and bumped into a new chica somewhere,  or one of our regulars.  Oft times an agreement might be struck on the spot for getting together later   You gave a chick the time and the place. 

And like clockwork, a chick would usually show up on time or early.  Chicks would be outside the mans spot waiting for him.  Many of us used to laugh at how chicks were when it came to keeping their appointments. 

In many of those instances,  chicas were NOT on time or early because they were trying to be responsible.  The reason why they did it, is because they knew a guy would find another chica to take her place.  So to avoid that, chicas came on time or early.   In other words the chicas had a strong incentive for being on time. 

Fast forward to today with all of these slack cutting guys feeling chicas need men to lower the bar for them.   And this is why enough chicas feel they can show up 1 to 3 hours late to a meet, and still be let in the door.    Too many men have taken the incentive away from women needing to do their f--king jobs, and be on time, from needing to respect a mans time.   

I wish I would catch myself cutting a chic some slack,  instead of taking matters in my own hands and get somebody else.   My Haitian chica that Ive been dealing with since 2015 is a prime example of what can be done if you offer a chick some structure in how she treats you.   Chick always messages me to let me know when she is on her way.   If she runs into a problem, I get a message.   When she gets close to my spot,  she may message me so I can come to the gate to let her in.   That usually happens when it's raining.   

Ive taught/advised her a while back,  that this practice is not only good for me, but it's good for her.  Ya see, she doesnt like waiting for me to come outside to meet her at the gate.  She wants me,  in fact most want the guy to already be at the front gate so they dont have to sit or stand outside in the dark or cold waiting.    So to avoid that , exercise some common sense.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 13, 2023, 06:24:38 PM
Here's an example of what can happen when you give a chick an inch allowing her to disrespect you and your business.   I know a chick that worked at a business.  Disappeared long enough to where it was obvious that something was wrong.    Her employer ended up coming later unexpectedly to the job site, and realized she was missing.  I found out later that this wasnt the 1st time she did that.   So how did cutting that chick some slack the 1st time help in her respecting her bosses time?     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 13, 2023, 06:44:14 PM
Here's an example of what can happen when you give a chick an inch allowing her to disrespect you and your business.   I know a chick that worked at a business.  Disappeared long enough to where it was obvious that something was wrong.    Her employer ended up coming later unexpectedly to the job site, and realized she was missing.  I found out later that this wasnt the 1st time she did that.   So how did cutting that chick some slack the 1st time help in her respecting her bosses time?     
Hey you're an expat, you can't expect dudes who have to live in Gynocentric america to understand.

Like you said especially in a place like Sosua the early bird catches the worm.  If you're horny and your bitch is bullshitting it's nothing to cop something right off the street as a replacement.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 13, 2023, 08:39:28 PM
@Murano,
I had one who the week before my arrival…(Decemeber trip) was texting me daily.
I told her….(everytime she texted) I arrive December 4, meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm and gave her the room number.

Day of my trip, during my layover in Miami she texts me asking are you arriving today, I tell her yes to meet me at 4:00pm at Casa Valeria and again I give her the room number. Do we have agreement and she answers yes.

I arrive at 2:15pm..... 4:00pm comes,  she's a no show. (No problem) I see one walking by Casa Valeria and chill with her

5:00pm I get a text, its old girl asking Papi what happened, My response what do you mean what happened..

Her - you didn't write me..
Me  - Yes I did, this morning at 11:00am.. I told you to meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm
Her - You want me to come now
Me - No I'm busy right now
Her - You told me we would be together
Me - True... but you did not honor the agreement, Gracias and goodbye.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 13, 2023, 11:28:51 PM
What I see here is a couple of dudes that think they are some "God's Gift" to a 3rd world prostitute that is selling pussy.  Both a looking for R-E-S-P-E-C-T which is literally hilarious!!!  But I will once again point out the two scenarios:

1.   A brawd that's coming from a distant location (out of town) for a link-up. (ST or LT)

2.  A brawds that's you just met (in-town) that was readily available in a bar, club or on the street. (ST or LT)

NEWSFLASH!!  Women got more shit to do in order to get ready for a f--k-date if they are coming from out of town.  The types of dudes that hold themselves in such higher regard above a Dominican prostitute has lost the sense of what and who they really are and whom they are dealing with in the grand menagerie of Pedro.   You as a "Buyer of Her Services" are nothing more than a "John".  Why would you even think that you are something more than that when you both are swimming in the same shit-bowl known as the Sosua PFP Market?  She is not an educated professional!

Regardless of that; you should get the hell off your high-horse and ask yourself this question?  What have you done in order to earn her R-E-S-P-E-C-T?  Promise her "money" for some pussy?  I guarantee you that the man that she really respects (as reflected in her words & actions) -------is getting that pussy for free!!!

Yes, I replace brawds that are late if I know they are/were in town hook-ups.  But those coming from out of town; I cut some slack & plan accordingly.  No reason to get soo upset over a late chica.  I can't because it was a business transaction that may or may not happen.  If it does go down then great.  If not, I still got my money in my pocket and have the complete freedom to get another chica in a nanosecond.  I let them know that your time that I had blocked for them (4PM for example) has now been taken by another chica but;...................if you wanna meet at 6 PM we can try again.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 06:41:18 AM
What I see here is a couple of dudes that think they are some "God's Gift" to a 3rd world prostitute that is selling pussy.  Both a looking for R-E-S-P-E-C-T which is literally hilarious!!! 
And what I see here is a dude that got checked on his ad hominem bullshit ( which was totally unnecessary since the dude was not under any attack, so what the f--k triggered it?).  And the solution shared was nothing more than a perfectly understandable breakdown and explanation of why and how a man may choose to exercise some structure in his dealings with women.  Handling women being late, was one example.   

Then when the mofo even reads that that method has worked when it was applied, even gave an example so it would be clear, instead of acknowledging that , he instead chooses to still run his mouth trying to troll in the topic.   "You think you are this, you think you are that. You trying to get respect from 3rd world blah blah blah"  Man, you sound like a f--king juvenile coming on here like that.

You lost me and anybody else with that bullshit.  Implying or inferring that these 3rd world chicks circumstances and their ability to process being somewhere on time, is unattainable, so it should be accepted.  I may expect it, but I dont have to accept it.   Whats the other excuse?  That they are coming from far away. Man you are just full of excuses for chicas arent you?   

This is where it gets confusing.  In your initial condescending post, at the end, you pointed out how you roll when dealing with lateness. 

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I give them plus or minus 15 minutes.  I let them know that they will be replaced if they are not on time.  Further I inform them that my vacation time is too valuable to me and I am not going to waste it waiting on 1 particular chica when the town is filled with hundreds of girls that are in need of money.   

Muthablubba, are we in the f--king Twlilight Zone?   WTF is the difference in you having a standard of only giving a chick 15 minutes consideration on being late?  And another dude telling a chick to advise him when she is on her way? 

And you letting them know that they will be replaced if they are not on time?  And another dude, making the decision to cancel a chick, especially if he's not getting any feedback on her status.  How a dude communicates letting a chick know that she will be replaced can be handled in different ways.  One is verbally, which you implied.  Another is by example.  Cancel waiting for a chick who is a no show, and hasnt communicated her status or asked for a dude to wait for her.   Some chicks need to learn by example.  Talking to enough chicks is useless.  Ghost a chick who is late, and watch how some learn to change their behavior.

Further Mr Gods gift whose vacation time is so valuable.  What the f--k is the difference in your time and someone else's time?  You the only mofo here that can speak on his time being valuable, and how they choose to roll? 

Ima ask you again, what is the f--king difference?   Ima say it again.  What has worked for me, is telling a chick the time.  Telling her to advise me on when she is on her way.  If I deem that she is NOT able to make it to the meet on time, I may cancel.  What I choose to do, I will figure it out in the moment.  Like I said before, sometimes a man has to think for himself, and for some of these women.   

Her education dont have jack to do with a chicks ability or inability to be on time.  Her home training and structure, and imprinting is what may make the difference.  The incentives and the value she puts into her survival needs being met, that is what may make the difference.  Not simply her education.   And not her being 3rd world.  Thousands of 3rd world women do get it right, and manage their time.  So we know that being on time by 3rd world supposedly uneducated women is attainable.    Whats next Ace? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 14, 2023, 07:05:35 AM
What I see here is a couple of dudes that think they are some "God's Gift" to a 3rd world prostitute that is selling pussy.  Both a looking for R-E-S-P-E-C-T which is literally hilarious!!!  But I will once again point out the two scenarios:

1.   A brawd that's coming from a distant location (out of town) for a link-up. (ST or LT)

2.  A brawds that's you just met (in-town) that was readily available in a bar, club or on the street. (ST or LT)

NEWSFLASH!!  Women got more shit to do in order to get ready for a f--k-date if they are coming from out of town.  The types of dudes that hold themselves in such higher regard above a Dominican prostitute has lost the sense of what and who they really are and whom they are dealing with in the grand menagerie of Pedro.   You as a "Buyer of Her Services" are nothing more than a "John".  Why would you even think that you are something more than that when you both are swimming in the same shit-bowl known as the Sosua PFP Market?  She is not an educated professional!

Regardless of that; you should get the hell off your high-horse and ask yourself this question?  What have you done in order to earn her R-E-S-P-E-C-T?  Promise her "money" for some pussy?  I guarantee you that the man that she really respects (as reflected in her words & actions) -------is getting that pussy for free!!!

Yes, I replace brawds that are late if I know they are/were in town hook-ups.  But those coming from out of town; I cut some slack & plan accordingly.  No reason to get soo upset over a late chica.  I can't because it was a business transaction that may or may not happen.  If it does go down then great.  If not, I still got my money in my pocket and have the complete freedom to get another chica in a nanosecond.  I let them know that your time that I had blocked for them (4PM for example) has now been taken by another chica but;...................if you wanna meet at 6 PM we can try again.

This whole SIMP speech is hilarious.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 14, 2023, 07:13:31 AM


And like clockwork, a chick would usually show up on time or early.  Chicks would be outside the mans spot waiting for him.  Many of us used to laugh at how chicks were when it came to keeping their appointments. 



This is SO DAMN TRUE.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 07:21:09 AM
This is a short and sweet POV that some men havent yet grasped.

Many of these chicks are late for other reasons other than coming from far away.  Many guys assume a chick may be coming from far away when that may not be the case at all.   I know that many of these women lie about where they are coming from before heading to a meet. 

While you have all of the bleeding heart excuses down pat on why some innocent little 3rd world chica is late because she is far away, has babysitting issues, how some dude is in a much better position in life than she is,  and all the rest of it.   I know all too well not to put much stock in what women want a man to believe.

By now any dude with enough awareness, and experience in dealing with DR or Haitian women, they know what many of those women are capable of.   So mofo, I know my ass is not in Montellano or PP supervising the starting point of where some chick is coming from.   That means I have to structure my response to lateness or that potential, taking certain things into consideration. 

My solution to time mismanagement, is about not having a chick waste my time unnecessarily.   And use any options I deem appropriate to accomplish that.   If a chick has a cell phone, unless she has wifi or data issues, there is no reason why a chick cant use that bitch to communicate her status.   Even if a chick is trying to finish a session, if that chick is late or a no show, no man is obligated to cut a chick some slack.   

Especially if the man doesnt really know where she is coming from, or what she is doing.   And another thing.  I have heard too many stories of guys receiving a message from a chick claiming she's running late.  The guy agrees to wait.  But what happens.  Now the chick can relax and take on another client, while that other guy is in his hotel sitting on the couch like a dummy waiting on the chick he cut some slack for. 

It never occurred to the dude that he just got bamboozled.  Him waiting demonstrates to the chick just how thirsty some dudes are when it comes to pursuing pussy.   Putting up with all kinds of nonsense.  Chicks be running circles around some dudes that have a limited scope in dealing with them.     

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 14, 2023, 07:42:58 AM
Now ain’t this a bitch.. Mr. Hold the line, Mr. Jedi, Mr. Always calling others out for being pussy whip simps, the @Blacknight a damn Sousa chica SIMP-a thiz-er and defense attorney.

You claim to always get your respect and what you want from a 3rd world chica or it’s out the door for her but the rest of us should be more understanding… Negro please.!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 07:43:08 AM
What I see here is a couple of dudes that think they are some "God's Gift" to a 3rd world prostitute that is selling pussy.  Both a looking for R-E-S-P-E-C-T which is literally hilarious!!!  But I will once again point out the two scenarios:

1.   A brawd that's coming from a distant location (out of town) for a link-up. (ST or LT)

2.  A brawds that's you just met (in-town) that was readily available in a bar, club or on the street. (ST or LT)

NEWSFLASH!!  Women got more shit to do in order to get ready for a f--k-date if they are coming from out of town.  The types of dudes that hold themselves in such higher regard above a Dominican prostitute has lost the sense of what and who they really are and whom they are dealing with in the grand menagerie of Pedro.   You as a "Buyer of Her Services" are nothing more than a "John".  Why would you even think that you are something more than that when you both are swimming in the same shit-bowl known as the Sosua PFP Market?  She is not an educated professional!

Regardless of that; you should get the hell off your high-horse and ask yourself this question?  What have you done in order to earn her R-E-S-P-E-C-T?  Promise her "money" for some pussy?  I guarantee you that the man that she really respects (as reflected in her words & actions) -------is getting that pussy for free!!!

Yes, I replace brawds that are late if I know they are/were in town hook-ups.  But those coming from out of town; I cut some slack & plan accordingly.  No reason to get soo upset over a late chica.  I can't because it was a business transaction that may or may not happen.  If it does go down then great.  If not, I still got my money in my pocket and have the complete freedom to get another chica in a nanosecond.  I let them know that your time that I had blocked for them (4PM for example) has now been taken by another chica but;...................if you wanna meet at 6 PM we can try again.

This whole SIMP speech is hilarious.
<Sigh>  It is what it is.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 07:57:28 AM
Now ain’t this a bitch.. Mr. Hold the line, Mr. Jedi, Mr. Always calling others out for being pussy whip simps, the @Blacknight a damn Sousa chica SIMP-a thiz-er and defense attorney.

You claim to always get your respect and what you want from a 3rd world chica or it’s out the door for her but the rest of us should be more understanding… Negro please.!!
You put it more succinctly than I.  That is exactly what I was trying to get across.  A pot calling the kettle. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 14, 2023, 08:41:02 AM
Break out the Light Sabers and now its on!!!  Calling me a MoFo has got me fired up on Saturday morning!!!  Wrote a song about it; want to hear it, here it go!!!

https://youtu.be/QfzDUpB88x4

@Murano do understand this; its easy to sound condescending when your talking to an idiot. That be you.  You are all up in your feelings and butt hurt because a prostitute didn't show up on time? This same prostitute is a female that you were hoping to become a "Raw Dick Regular."  Could that be the real reason behind why you have sooo much piss and venom in your comments?  You done wrote a damn book laying out your 1st world feelings about what you perceive to be the disrespectful actions of a 3rd World prostitute's timeliness because you didn't get to slip & slide on the raw side?

All of the comments come from a place of indignation, disgust and betrayal.  How could that be?  Because you are attempting to hold a 3rd World prostitute to a standard of a 1st World Prostitute.  (No I did not say civilian)  Did you not ever date a woman before in your life in the real world? Did you not ever realize that now; because of COVID and the Global Recession that came afterwards; that the logistical support structure is still in turmoil all over the world and that also affects transportation?

Bruh, you and your crew are rolling in that Klown Kar riding on those 24' spinning rims!!!  You are a dude that wants what he wants---WHEN WE WANTS IT!!!   And when you don't get your way; you pitch a bitch & throw the chica completely under the bus & look at it as she is disrespecting you. 

To the other riders in the Klown Kar;..........I am staying on point.  We are talking about "Chica's that are Coming from out of Town and Arrive Late".

In order to come to our location; these chicas must;

1.  Coordinate travel by Bus, Van Bus, Taxi Car or Moto Concho
2.  Coordinate a babysitter.
3.  Get physically ready (Bath, Hair, clothes, make-up)

And to be very clear---All of the 3 identified issues as written are the things that she must do in a 3rd World environment and ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTROL WHATSOEVER & CAN BE NEGATIVLEY IMPACTED BY THE WEATHER. 

@Nickmirr

Once she arrives (late or on time) and enters your 1st World environment that you have created at your hotel, apartment or villa the tables turn.  YOU ARE now in control.  I have preached about that in length as follows;
 
1.  Photo before we go to the room.  No photo is a dealbreaker and she is left in the lobby.
2.  The bareback dick-suck is the agreed to standard & she gets tossed with no pay if refused. 
3.  She gets paid afterwards as agreed with no upcharges or propina.  Demanding to get paid upfront get's her tossed with nothing.  Hold the Line!!!


Once again, she is coming from her impoverished 3rd World environment and entering your 1st World life that has structure, consistency, discipline & robust resources.  The standard goes up once she enters my world; then and only then.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 08:46:08 AM
@Murano,
I had one who the week before my arrival…(Decemeber trip) was texting me daily.
I told her….(everytime she texted) I arrive December 4, meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm and gave her the room number.

Day of my trip, during my layover in Miami she texts me asking are you arriving today, I tell her yes to meet me at 4:00pm at Casa Valeria and again I give her the room number. Do we have agreement and she answers yes.

I arrive at 2:15pm..... 4:00pm comes,  she's a no show. (No problem) I see one walking by Casa Valeria and chill with her

5:00pm I get a text, its old girl asking Papi what happened, My response what do you mean what happened..

Her - you didn't write me..
Me  - Yes I did, this morning at 11:00am.. I told you to meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm
Her - You want me to come now
Me - No I'm busy right now
Her - You told me we would be together
Me - True... but you did not honor the agreement, Gracias and goodbye.
Your scenario is exactly the type of shit some chicas try to get dudes to put up with.  "So you want me to come now?"    A classic response.   Another is :  "Estas enojado?"   Which means, "Are you angry?"

The whole reason I developed a strategy to dealing with lateness , is so I dont need to be angry or pissed.  If I choose to cancel a meeting, Ive just mitigated allowing a chick to waste my time.   And like you, I can get somebody else available to take a chicks place.    Or do nothing.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 09:41:55 AM
Break out the Light Sabers and now its on!!!  Calling me a MoFo has got me fired up on Saturday morning!!!  Wrote a song about it; want to hear it, here it go!!!

https://youtu.be/QfzDUpB88x4

@Murano do understand this; its easy to sound condescending when your talking to an idiot. That be you.  You are all up in your feelings and butt hurt because a prostitute didn't show up on time? This same prostitute is a female that you were hoping to become a "Raw Dick Regular."  Could that be the real reason behind why you have sooo much piss and venom in your comments?  You done wrote a damn book laying out your 1st world feelings about what you perceive to be the disrespectful actions of a 3rd World prostitute's timeliness because you didn't get to slip & slide on the raw side?

All of the comments come from a place of indignation, disgust and betrayal.  How could that be?  Because you are attempting to hold a 3rd World prostitute to a standard of a 1st World Prostitute.  (No I did not say civilian)  Did you not ever date a woman before in your life in the real world? Did you not ever realize that now; because of COVID and the Global Recession that came afterwards; that the logistical support structure is still in turmoil all over the world and that also affects transportation?

Bruh, you and your crew are rolling in that Klown Kar riding on those 24' spinning rims!!!  You are a dude that wants what he wants---WHEN WE WANTS IT!!!   And when you don't get your way; you pitch a bitch & throw the chica completely under the bus & look at it as she is disrespecting you. 

To the other riders in the Klown Kar;..........I am staying on point.  We are talking about "Chica's that are Coming from out of Town and Arrive Late".

In order to come to our location; these chicas must;

1.  Coordinate travel by Bus, Van Bus, Taxi Car or Moto Concho
2.  Coordinate a babysitter.
3.  Get physically ready (Bath, Hair, clothes, make-up)

And to be very clear---All of the 3 identified issues as written are the things that she must do in a 3rd World environment and ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTROL WHATSOEVER & CAN BE NEGATIVLEY IMPACTED BY THE WEATHER. 

@Nickmirr

Once she arrives (late or on time) and enters your 1st World environment that you have created at your hotel, apartment or villa the tables turn.  YOU ARE now in control.  I have preached about that in length as follows;
 
1.  Photo before we go to the room.  (No photo is a dealbreaker)
2.  The bareback dick-suck is the standard & she gets tossed if refused. 
3.  She gets paid as agreed with no upcharges or propina.  Hold the Line!!!

Quote
In order to come to our location; these chicas must;

1.  Coordinate travel by Bus, Van Bus, Taxi Car or Moto Concho
2.  Coordinate a babysitter.
3.  Get physically ready (Bath, Hair, clothes, make-up)

And this is the difference between how a rookie minded person thinks ( that would be you ) and a veteran.  This mugg has been hoodwinked to believe, all of that shit,  a man should automatically apply to every chick he deems to be worthy of giving them a pass.   

Imma keep it simple.  Idiocy is a dude not taking into consideration or knowing the nature of some of the people were dealing with.   You dont know for sure that a chick is coming far away, just because she said so.   You dont know if she has babysitting issues.  And you dont know about what she needs to do to get herself together.   What you are saying is in theory.  And we get it.  But that is not how enough men need to be dealing with THESE women in this environment.  Your way does sound simpish. 

You are talking apples and Im talking oranges.  My issue isnt about giving a woman a pass because of her challenges.   The issue Im addressing is, we need to make sure chicks to do a better job of managing their time.  Even if they have challenges.   The solutions are.   Communicate her challenges with that f--king cell phone.  Not going dark, and wondering why the guy changed plans, and moved on to another chica.      If a chick is sitting around the house bullshitting, when she could be preparing, then that is where the problem is.   

You dont or wont take that into consideration.  You shouldnt blame a man for not cutting a chick some slack, if that man may not know the true circumstances of why a chick is late.  Giving chicks benefits of doubt is not necessary.   They are not children.  The onus of being on time is their responsibility, not the mans willingness to cut women slack.   But obviously, you know only what you know.

Babysitting issues, being far away or whatever other excuse you gave.   

And here's an example of SOME chicks taking responsibility.  A lot of chicks ( even prostitutes ) have children that wear uniforms.  Some chicks wear uniforms too.  This also includes prostitutes and their own clothes.  Saw the same thing in the Philippines with a regular of mine who is a security guard.  They all routinely have to do things to prepare for the next day.  Many wash their clothes by hand the day or night before, so it will be ready the next day.   

Many a monger can attest to having a chick wash some of her clothes over night,  so it will be ready the next day.   

Additionally, many p4p chicks carry in their bags a change of clothes just in case.  So dont suggest to me that BS that prostitutes automatically have all of these challenges just because they might be far away.  Mofo if your ass is too far,  then request a later time for the meet.   Or get your ass together today so you will be able to be on time tomorrow. 

Like I said before, which you are intentionally ignoring,  is that there are ALL types of women in the DR that can and are on time.  So there is no reason for a man (other than those choosing to simp ) to sit up here and make excuses and rationalize time mismanagement from only a select group of chicas.       

Now this is what a chick can do if she has an impromptu date/meeting.  If the time of the date is not enough time for her to be ready,  she should not agree to a time where she knows she cant make it on time. 

Thats why Nickm asked the chick to confirm.  In his case, if the chick had a problem being at his spot at 4pm, she should have advised him on her status.  The chick had all of that lead time before the meet to get herself together.   And like my date, could plan to leave early enough to get where she needed to be. 

Cats claiming this is a male dominated society, but when a man expresses taking a stance as a man should, mofo has a problem with it?  Make up your f--king mind.  You want bar lowing simp behavior,  or a man taking matters in his own hands in the p4p game?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 14, 2023, 09:54:08 AM
This is a short and sweet POV that some men havent yet grasped.

Many of these chicks are late for other reasons other than coming from far away.  Many guys assume a chick may be coming from far away when that may not be the case at all.   I know that many of these women lie about where they are coming from before heading to a meet. 

While you have all of the bleeding heart excuses down pat on why some innocent little 3rd world chica is late because she is far away, has babysitting issues, how some dude is in a much better position in life than she is,  and all the rest of it.   I know all too well not to put much stock in what women want a man to believe.

By now any dude with enough awareness, and experience in dealing with DR or Haitian women, they know what many of those women are capable of.   So mofo, I know my ass is not in Montellano or PP supervising the starting point of where some chick is coming from.   That means I have to structure my response to lateness or that potential, taking certain things into consideration. 

My solution to time mismanagement, is about not having a chick waste my time unnecessarily.   And use any options I deem appropriate to accomplish that.   If a chick has a cell phone, unless she has wifi or data issues, there is no reason why a chick cant use that bitch to communicate her status.   Even if a chick is trying to finish a session, if that chick is late or a no show, no man is obligated to cut a chick some slack.   

Especially if the man doesnt really know where she is coming from, or what she is doing.   And another thing.  I have heard too many stories of guys receiving a message from a chick claiming she's running late.  The guy agrees to wait.  But what happens.  Now the chick can relax and take on another client, while that other guy is in his hotel sitting on the couch like a dummy waiting on the chick he cut some slack for. 

It never occurred to the dude that he just got bamboozled.  Him waiting demonstrates to the chick just how thirsty some dudes are when it comes to pursuing pussy.   Putting up with all kinds of nonsense.  Chicks be running circles around some dudes that have a limited scope in dealing with them.     

exactly just like you can easily take another chick the chick can take another client.

your popular 9's and 10's (when they come to Sosua) is fielding dates like dudes bidding on her pussy and she's taking the best offers.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 14, 2023, 09:55:53 AM
@Blacknight,
Your correct in the words directed towards me.. But real talk.
If you and I talk and decide to meet at a bar Sunday at 1:00pm, we have an agreement, then to make sure we’re still a go for Sunday we text Saturday to confirm… I say I’ll be there.

Then come Sunday, I’m a no show and text you asking what happened, (at 2:00pm)..why you didn’t text me to let me know your at the bar. What kind of stupid, non comprehending bullshit is that.

Stupid is what stupid does and I refuse to do stupid.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 10:08:23 AM

exactly just like you can easily take another chick the chick can take another client.

your popular 9's and 10's (when they come to Sosua) is fielding dates like dudes bidding on her pussy and she's taking the best offers.
Yes, and that is an example of what dudes need to be aware of, so they dont get caught up feeling sorry for a chick, thinking they need to give her some slack for reasons that may not even apply.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 10:51:01 AM
A scenario that this discussion reminds me of :

The dudes that have reported that they were f--king a chick or just got finished f--king a chick, watching and listening to the chick tell a guy on the phone , how much she misses him.  Or telling a guy on the other end of the phone, that she is on her way.  But she cant find a taxi or moto yet.   

The guy on the other end in a nerdy voice ( cutting her some slack ),  saying "okay mi amor, no hay problema".    "I know you live far from where I am"  "I know you may have trouble getting a babysitter"  "And I know you have gone out of your way to prepare to look good, just for me and nobody else"   

"I'll be here waiting, so take your time"  Her response?   "Gracias mi amor, muaahh"   

I had a old regular chick do something similar ( 2014 )   This chick had a fiancé in the states.  But she was outside of El Rancho ready to put in some work with me.   He called and she walked off to take the call.  The whole time smiling back at me, expecting me not to blow her cover,  because she was letting me see her at work finessing him on the phone.   

This chick is someone Ive known since my 1st visit.   Im certain that she did something similar to me when she was my regular.   But you see, Ive learned by then not to trust whatever a chick wants you to believe.  I dont care if its a regular or a new conquest.   If it cant be verified, it cant be trusted.  If its not important, I dont need to entertain it either. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 11:01:43 AM
@Blacknight,
Your correctly in the words directed towards me.. But real talk.
If you and I talk and decide to meet at a bar Sunday at 1:00pm, we have an agreement, then to make sure we’re still a go for Sunday we text Saturday to confirm… I say I’ll be there.

Then come Sunday, I’m a no show and text you asking what happened, (at 2:00pm)..why you didn’t text me to let me know your at the bar. What kind of stupid, non comprehending bullshit is that.

Stupid is what stupid does and I refuse to do stupid.
I know. That doesnt make a lick of sense. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Azzman on January 14, 2023, 11:16:28 AM
Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!

THIS


When I see some of his post, I always think about the poor souls that visit this website using a tablet or an I Phone. The scrolling must take days to complete....

YES, yes it does! Just please don’t talk about COVID and I think we all can deal with all other subjects…lol
Well fortunately, there may be less people around to even talk about it since the rollout.   A lot has happened and been revealed since last year when it was covered in the General Discussion section.  Many people dont have a lot to say anymore since a lot of falsehoods have been revealed.   Nobody wants to be reminded or hear, "We told you they were wrong "

Hell I just appreciate a 4 sentence response, Thank you Sir ☝🏾
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 14, 2023, 11:27:14 AM
My crew that comes from Puerto Plata, text me when you leave the house and when you pass the airport and i will pick you up at the Texaco.

The crew from around here, text me when you are ready and i will come and pick you up.

The crew from Santiago, text me when you get on the bus and when you pass the airport and i will pick you up at the stop in Charamicos.

The only time i have ever had an issue is when someone is coming from SDQ and driving themselves. It's not a question of respect, it's just a poor understanding of time.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 14, 2023, 01:15:12 PM
@Murano,
I had one who the week before my arrival…(Decemeber trip) was texting me daily.
I told her….(everytime she texted) I arrive December 4, meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm and gave her the room number.

Day of my trip, during my layover in Miami she texts me asking are you arriving today, I tell her yes to meet me at 4:00pm at Casa Valeria and again I give her the room number. Do we have agreement and she answers yes.

I arrive at 2:15pm..... 4:00pm comes,  she's a no show. (No problem) I see one walking by Casa Valeria and chill with her

5:00pm I get a text, its old girl asking Papi what happened, My response what do you mean what happened..

Her - you didn't write me..
Me  - Yes I did, this morning at 11:00am.. I told you to meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm
Her - You want me to come now
Me - No I'm busy right now
Her - You told me we would be together
Me - True... but you did not honor the agreement, Gracias and goodbye.
Your scenario is exactly the type of shit some chicas try to get dudes to put up with.  "So you want me to come now?"    A classic response.   Another is :  "Estas enojado?"   Which means, "Are you angry?"

The whole reason I developed a strategy to dealing with lateness , is so I dont need to be angry or pissed.  If I choose to cancel a meeting, Ive just mitigated allowing a chick to waste my time.   And like you, I can get somebody else available to take a chicks place.    Or do nothing.     

If you’re living here you got a lot of time to waste. Like it or not often those chicks are not ultimately in control of their lives and they belong to a culture that is notorious for being consistently tarde. Also though we think we should be important bottom line is that we’re almost always just another hustle to them as they are purely disposable most of the time to many of us. To be honest about it we simply aren’t important enough for them to believe they owe us promptness which something that’s completely outside their normal behavior pattern. The key is to have a deep bullpen and not get all worked up because a chick you don’t really give a damn about misses an appointment. It just ain’t that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 14, 2023, 01:23:10 PM
A scenario that this discussion reminds me of :

The dudes that have reported that they were f--king a chick or just got finished f--king a chick, watching and listening to the chick tell a guy on the phone , how much she misses him.  Or telling a guy on the other end of the phone, that she is on her way.  But she cant find a taxi or moto yet.   

The guy on the other end in a nerdy voice ( cutting her some slack ),  saying "okay mi amor, no hay problema".    "I know you live far from where I am"  "I know you may have trouble getting a babysitter"  "And I know you have gone out of your way to prepare to look good, just for me and nobody else"   

"I'll be here waiting, so take your time"  Her response?   "Gracias mi amor, muaahh"   

I had a old regular chick do something similar ( 2014 )   This chick had a fiancé in the states.  But she was outside of El Rancho ready to put in some work with me.   He called and she walked off to take the call.  The whole time smiling back at me, expecting me not to blow her cover,  because she was letting me see her at work finessing him on the phone.   

This chick is someone Ive known since my 1st visit.   Im certain that she did something similar to me when she was my regular.   But you see, Ive learned by then not to trust whatever a chick wants you to believe.  I dont care if its a regular or a new conquest.   If it cant be verified, it cant be trusted.  If its not important, I dont need to entertain it either.
Bruh,
I had one who did not know I was in town, walked in kings and there she was sitting with this gentlemen and his group of friends. As me and my boys find a place to sit she starts texting me.

The usual chica questions.. When you come, where you stay, when you leave, are you angry with me, I want to be with you.. I text back ok, text me tomorrow. I get up to go to the men's room and when I come out, she 's standing at the women's bathroom as if she's waiting in line.

Chica grabs me by the arm and pulls me inside the divider and says, In the morning I come to you, the men I'm with pays me well and I need the money....

No problem amor text me in the morning... I slap her on her ass, as she walks into the ladies room and I head back to my table.  funny thing, as she's sitting there with old boy, she texting me saying she jealous that I'm talking to other girls...  lmao.... Jeezus they are comedy central

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 14, 2023, 02:09:00 PM
My crew that comes from Puerto Plata, text me when you leave the house and when you pass the airport and i will pick you up at the Texaco.

The crew from around here, text me when you are ready and i will come and pick you up.

The crew from Santiago, text me when you get on the bus and when you pass the airport and i will pick you up at the stop in Charamicos.
Viva, I agree, chicas have no time management skills, lol. I've learned, so I adjust the clock. If I what them there at 3:00, I tell them 2:00. If they miss the window, move on with your day, DO NOT RESPOND TO THEIR TEXTS!!. Have often found them on the street out side my place when I leave. You can leave them standing on the curb or not, that's up to you.

The only time i have ever had an issue is when someone is coming from SDQ and driving themselves. It's not a question of respect, it's just a poor understanding of time.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 14, 2023, 02:27:46 PM
Chicas have no time management. If you want them there at 3pm say 2pm, if they miss the window move on with your day. Have often found them out side my place when I leave. Now you can take them or leave them standing on the curb. The point has been made " You need me, I don't need you". Like some here I stay for months, not days, so chica bullshit becomes tiresome fast. So even a fovorita has get cut off some times.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 02:50:09 PM
My crew that comes from Puerto Plata, text me when you leave the house and when you pass the airport and i will pick you up at the Texaco.

The crew from around here, text me when you are ready and i will come and pick you up.

The crew from Santiago, text me when you get on the bus and when you pass the airport and i will pick you up at the stop in Charamicos.

The only time i have ever had an issue is when someone is coming from SDQ and driving themselves. It's not a question of respect, it's just a poor understanding of time.
Things me, friends, acquaintances and some chicas ROUTINELY agree to do.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 14, 2023, 02:56:42 PM
"You are talking apples and Im talking oranges.  My issue isnt about giving a woman a pass because of her challenges.   The issue Im addressing is, we need to make sure chicks to do a better job of managing their time.  Even if they have challenges.   The solutions are.   Communicate her challenges with that f--king cell phone.  Not going dark, and wondering why the guy changed plans, and moved on to another chica.      If a chick is sitting around the house bullshitting, when she could be preparing, then that is where the problem is."   


Absolute bullshit!!!  What part of the game (in any country) is it the buyers responsibility to try to manage a freelance prostitute's timeliness or teach them time management?  I put that in bold for you to again see the horseshit that you just wrote.  Their time is exactly as written; ....."theirs"!! You are not a pimp!!  I as a monger don't give a damn about "their time".  YOU OPERATE AROUND ALL THEIR SHITTY HABITS!!! It is only when they enter my world do I gives two fcuks!!!  And do note after you have had your hissy fit and dismissed her back to the streets because she showed up late and you felt all disrespected; the Jedi scooped her ass up for about $1500 to $2000.

#2  She might be doing exactly just that.  Bullshitting;..................or she could be getting with the dude that offered her more money.  That's why all I give is 15 minutes +/- before I replace them.  But I certainly am not going to go bat shit crazy thinking "I'm going to teach her a lesson in time management by sending her away!  She gonna regret the day she turned down my $2500 PESO because she was late!"  All that you taught her is she can definitely replace you a whole lot faster than you can replace her.  She's "selling pussy" and you trying to "teach a lifestyle".  Guess which one gonna make the most money in Sosua?  That's right---the one that's selling pussy!!  Chicas gonna be late before you came to Sosua, while you were here, after you left & came back too.  Chicas are still running late.  You didn't teach them shit!

It's just soo much more easier to just "get another chica" vs trying to "teach the chicas".  Well that is for the most of us.  But do keep in mind; most of us are not trying to turn a "Out of Town Chica" into a Raw Dog Regular like you admitted and are trying to make the Ho into a housewife.    And that's exactly why you got your feelings hurt and are the classic traits of a SIMP.


May the Force Be With You,................Always!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 14, 2023, 03:17:49 PM
IMHO the beef here is some guys still live by the clock and some don't. Even thought I stay for months, if I tell a chica to come at a set time (as said before, I SAY 1 hour earlier), just ghost her if shes a no show. The only time they learn is if they loose money!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 04:55:16 PM
@Murano,
I had one who the week before my arrival…(Decemeber trip) was texting me daily.
I told her….(everytime she texted) I arrive December 4, meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm and gave her the room number.

Day of my trip, during my layover in Miami she texts me asking are you arriving today, I tell her yes to meet me at 4:00pm at Casa Valeria and again I give her the room number. Do we have agreement and she answers yes.

I arrive at 2:15pm..... 4:00pm comes,  she's a no show. (No problem) I see one walking by Casa Valeria and chill with her

5:00pm I get a text, its old girl asking Papi what happened, My response what do you mean what happened..

Her - you didn't write me..
Me  - Yes I did, this morning at 11:00am.. I told you to meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm
Her - You want me to come now
Me - No I'm busy right now
Her - You told me we would be together
Me - True... but you did not honor the agreement, Gracias and goodbye.
Your scenario is exactly the type of shit some chicas try to get dudes to put up with.  "So you want me to come now?"    A classic response.   Another is :  "Estas enojado?"   Which means, "Are you angry?"

The whole reason I developed a strategy to dealing with lateness , is so I dont need to be angry or pissed.  If I choose to cancel a meeting, Ive just mitigated allowing a chick to waste my time.   And like you, I can get somebody else available to take a chicks place.    Or do nothing.     

If you’re living here you got a lot of time to waste. Like it or not often those chicks are not ultimately in control of their lives and they belong to a culture that is notorious for being consistently tarde. Also though we think we should be important bottom line is that we’re almost always just another hustle to them as they are purely disposable most of the time to many of us. To be honest about it we simply aren’t important enough for them to believe they owe us promptness which something that’s completely outside their normal behavior pattern. The key is to have a deep bullpen and not get all worked up because a chick you don’t really give a damn about misses an appointment. It just ain’t that big of a deal.
Jazzy, you are limited in your scope.  I know everything you just stated and then some.  Your suggestion to have a deep bullpen, is just one option.  But see, nobody has to use just that option or one option.   A person can exercise as many options as they see fit.   

A man doesnt need a bullpen for chicks being late.  He can do something else.  Like get the message across, of what chicks needs to do if they intend to do business with him.   

Your solution of turning to other women as the only solution, does not deal directly with the issue.  If chicks are notoriously tarde like you say, then it should be expected that the chicks in your bullpen will be tarde too.   What have you accomplished if the chicks in your BP are also doing the same f--king shit? 

For the esoteric few.  A decent strategy is to take charge and offer guidance on how chicks you interact with can prepare for a meet.   Once the time is set, one can advise the chick to message him when she is on her way.  If where she is coming from is known,  he should be able to estimate how much time the chick needs, and how much time he will allow for her to get to the meet.     

If he discerns that she is not going to make it, he can very well decide to abort.   Like if a chick is supposed meet at 8pm in Sosua and she is in PP,  that chick should at least be leaving PP by 645 to 7pm.   A man if he chooses can cut her some slack of being a few minutes late.   But if the chick says she is on her way at 745,  how the f--k is she going to get to Sosua by 8pm?   

Those are the type of scenarios a man may choose to avoid or entertain.  And they are also the type of scenarios where chicks have a guy waiting for no f--king reason except disrespecting the mans time.   

I realize that some chicks are assbackwards in their thinking. The time to meet is not the time you leave where you are coming from.   Some of these chicks need some guidance on how to handle their own time management.  What they do on their own time is their business.  I aint trying to change them, just letting them know how I roll.   Those who dont like that type of structure,  they can keep it moving.   

Nickm's scenario is a common example.  He didnt take the bait of letting her BS her way in.  He took matters in his own hands.  And before that, he rightly communicated with the chick to confirm that she had the time of the meet right.   The extra communication Im suggesting makes perfect sense.  Have a chick communicate when she is on her way.  That way a guy has some variables to work with.  Finding out at the meet hour that a chick is a no show, is not the best option for the guy.   

But making a chick take responsibility in communicating her status, goes a long way in discerning if a guy should go forth with a meet or abort.   



 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 05:02:49 PM
A scenario that this discussion reminds me of :

The dudes that have reported that they were f--king a chick or just got finished f--king a chick, watching and listening to the chick tell a guy on the phone , how much she misses him.  Or telling a guy on the other end of the phone, that she is on her way.  But she cant find a taxi or moto yet.   

The guy on the other end in a nerdy voice ( cutting her some slack ),  saying "okay mi amor, no hay problema".    "I know you live far from where I am"  "I know you may have trouble getting a babysitter"  "And I know you have gone out of your way to prepare to look good, just for me and nobody else"   

"I'll be here waiting, so take your time"  Her response?   "Gracias mi amor, muaahh"   

I had a old regular chick do something similar ( 2014 )   This chick had a fiancé in the states.  But she was outside of El Rancho ready to put in some work with me.   He called and she walked off to take the call.  The whole time smiling back at me, expecting me not to blow her cover,  because she was letting me see her at work finessing him on the phone.   

This chick is someone Ive known since my 1st visit.   Im certain that she did something similar to me when she was my regular.   But you see, Ive learned by then not to trust whatever a chick wants you to believe.  I dont care if its a regular or a new conquest.   If it cant be verified, it cant be trusted.  If its not important, I dont need to entertain it either.
Bruh,
I had one who did not know I was in town, walked in kings and there she was sitting with this gentlemen and his group of friends. As me and my boys find a place to sit she starts texting me.

The usual chica questions.. When you come, where you stay, when you leave, are you angry with me, I want to be with you.. I text back ok, text me tomorrow. I get up to go to the men's room and when I come out, she 's standing at the women's bathroom as if she's waiting in line.

Chica grabs me by the arm and pulls me inside the divider and says, In the morning I come to you, the men I'm with pays me well and I need the money....

No problem amor text me in the morning... I slap her on her ass, as she walks into the ladies room and I head back to my table.  funny thing, as she's sitting there with old boy, she texting me saying she jealous that I'm talking to other girls...  lmao.... Jeezus they are comedy central
Sounds like a chica many know, named Claritza?   But what you described comes a dime a dozen. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 05:25:18 PM
So Blacknight Tell me, now that everything is laid out in the open, what are you going to do about it?     

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 14, 2023, 05:57:32 PM
So Blacknight Tell me, now that everything is laid out in the open, what are you going to do about it?   


Do you mean that  you once again, "laid out in the open" and posted yet again a couple of your quotes that shows the pain and anguish the Sosua chicas have caused you. That pain is directly reflected in your quotes as follows;

#1 Some of these chicks need some guidance on how to handle their own time management."
#2 "But making a chick take responsibility in communicating her status, goes a long way in discerning if a guy should go forth with a meet or abort."
 

She's a 3rd world prostitute selling pussy.  Your a John!  She don't need nor want your guidance in time management. All she wants & needs is your money.  Why in the world would you expend soo much energy trying to get revenge a.k.a. making a chica selling pussy to "take responsibility" when she is late when all ya gotta do is holla next!!!  Her love and respect ARE NOT part of the deal!! 

You sir are hellbent on revenge worse than a woman scorned!!  Holla next and pick another one!  But you just can't do that now can you?  Why is that? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 14, 2023, 07:07:06 PM
So Blacknight Tell me, now that everything is laid out in the open, what are you going to do about it?   


Do you mean that  you once again, "laid out in the open" and posted yet again a couple of your quotes that shows the pain and anguish the Sosua chicas have caused you. That pain is directly reflected in your quotes as follows;

#1 Some of these chicks need some guidance on how to handle their own time management."
#2 "But making a chick take responsibility in communicating her status, goes a long way in discerning if a guy should go forth with a meet or abort."
 

She's a 3rd world prostitute selling pussy.  Your a John!  She don't need nor want your guidance in time management. All she wants & needs is your money.  Why in the world would you expend soo much energy trying to get revenge a.k.a. making a chica selling pussy to "take responsibility" when she is late when all ya gotta do is holla next!!!  Her love and respect ARE NOT part of the deal!! 

You sir are hellbent on revenge worse than a woman scorned!!  Holla next and pick another one!  But you just can't do that now can you?  Why is that?

Someone is hellbent on revenge, check
Worse than a woman scorned,  check. 
Cant pick another one, check. 
Someone is a John, check.
She dont want or need guidance, check
Some quotes show pain and anguish, check

Duly noted.  Now what else you got other than juvenile shaming language?         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 14, 2023, 09:56:56 PM
Well since Jacksonville is getting their ass kicked.......

You have waaay to much expectations of a Sosua chica that you are paying to f--k.  Especially if she is a chica that comes from outta town.  And it was you 1st in post#1312 when you called me a "Muthablubba" so don't accuse me of juvenile name calling.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 03:23:04 AM
Well since Jacksonville is getting their ass kicked.......

You have waaay to much expectations of a Sosua chica that you are paying to f--k.  Especially if she is a chica that comes from outta town.  And it was you 1st in post#1312 when you called me a "Muthablubba" so don't accuse me of juvenile name calling.
We both know you dont have a f--king clue about who on this board has way too much expectations of a Sosua chica.  You dont know me, and I dont know you.  You are in a slug fest for no other reason other than because of your condescending cyber mouth. 

Normally, we both respect each others content, sometimes we agree.  Sometimes we dont.  But you my friend are delusional. 

Read the f--king following, because this is you :   


Re: Current Observations on the Strip/PC
« Reply #1297 on: January 13, 2023, 12:39:30 PM »

Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!


Your problem started at post #1297 in this thread, not post #1312.  The chronology of making it personal  started with you. If you cant see that, I dont know what to f--king tell you.  For years we acknowledged each others content without making it personal.  But you crossed the line this time and drew First Blood here. 

I must say, you got some one way balls, complaining about someone giving you back what you started.  You have way too much expectations of anybody on this board, to think you can come in on a topic,  call them a motherf--ker and expect others not to have a problem giving you what you dish. 

But you, apparently, must have been dumbfounded and didnt know why it was coming back,  even though I was f--king telling you POINT BLANK what you started, initially.     

And it aint a mystery, you seem to free flow doing similar shit towards other individuals on this board who are also sharing their content.  And thats why some others here may not be feeling your insults either. 
Respect begets respect.  How you address people is important.  People only think in one head,  they dont know what is going on in somebody else's head.  In text or typed form, people need to be careful in what they say, because emotions or context isnt always discernible to others. 

So when you come into a topic, and start off with a comment about someone having too much time on their hands, Strike One, and follow it up with calling them a motherf--ker, Strike Two and Three.  After that?  Why would you show me post#1312, when that is not where the problem started?       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 04:01:58 AM
Let m explain something else here.  After you called me a motherf--ker, you went on to lecture me on needing to cut chicas some slack on lateness if they are coming from afar.  But like I pointed out.  You dont have a f--king clue on a chicas circumstances to know if all of that stuff you are ASSUMING applies to them for that particular meet.  And for the record, I acknowledged that what you said is true when it applies. 

But I cant entertain a shortsighted POV when I can see other POV or circumstances with a chica that can also apply.  Like when a chick is already in Sosua ( claiming they are home ) or trying to buy time when they are with another dude.  I pointed out that possibility as well.  But it seems your default setting in a discussion, is never acknowledge other POVs that dont fit your narrative.  Doing that is an interactive character flaw.   

On my end, if someone shares a POV that I can see where it applies, I may acknowledge that it applies.  But I may also offer my own perspective that may also apply.  Which I did with you, but you were too busy making up shit that may not apply.     

You also misrepresented several things that was said in regards to dealing with a chicas lateness, and other things.  But I know why you did it, and kept doing it.  It didnt have anything to do with it being true.  You thought you were disrespected 1st, and felt the need to seek revenge.  Revenge?   

It was ironic that you brought that up, about someone supposedly seeking revenge towards women.  I mean damn, when you feel disrespected, you try to go deep in a direction that has nothing to do with facts.  But check this out.   It's obvious you dont like being called out of your name either. 

That being the case, what makes you think you can initiate doing it to others, without it coming back to you? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 04:38:51 AM
My exchange here reminds me of the chica that Nickmirr talked about. 

Here's a chick that was an hour late to a meet, but instead of apologizing for being late, she comes at him asking him WHAT HAPPENED?    In other words, not taking responsibility for her own behavior. 

It also reminds me of how some chicks think it's ok to hit a man, and then become stunned if the man hits them back.  And then act like the man was wrong, even though he gave back what she dished out 1st. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 15, 2023, 06:58:03 AM
Laughing my ass off and rolling on the floor!!!  You took this comment soo personal;

"Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!"  And don't realize the word "Motherf--ker" in our culture is the same as "My n----ahh"??  Talk about out of touch.  What's funny is when you spelled out Motherflubber I fully understood and added the Jedi Nation and a funny as hell video.  Are you not entertained!!! You don't get the joke!!!  Obviously not!  MY BAD !!! 

But bruh you can see that my comment is dead-on target and plenty of other dudes picked up on it too.  You are writing "Books on Bullshit" at 3:23, 4:01 & 4:38 in the morning while living in the land of the Fat Ass & Titty's!!!

@Nickmirr  He picked up on my comments that were directed at him and he fully understood.  You on the other hand,.... still don't get it.

I'm done.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 07:29:29 AM
Laughing my ass off and rolling on the floor!!!  You took this comment soo personal;

"Let's all chip in and find Murano "Something to Do with his Time" because this motherf--ker got toooooo much time on his hands!!!"  And don't realize the word "Motherf--ker" in our culture is the same as "My n----ahh"??  Talk about out of touch.  What's funny is when you spelled out Motherflubber I fully understood and added the Jedi Nation and a funny as hell video.  Are you not entertained!!! You don't get the joke!!!  Obviously not!

MY BAD !!!  But bruh you can see that my comment is not dead-on target and plenty of other dudes picked up on it too.  You are writing "Books on Bullshit" at 3:23, 4:01 & 4:38 in the morning while living in the land of the Fat Ass & Titty's!!!
No that shit doesnt fly.  There is one point and one lesson here.   When you initiate being  condescending or calling names dont act like you were a victim when you get it coming back.  Even your audience here can understand that   Like I said before, not everybody is going to assume the intended context coming at them.   Or click on links to shit you find funny.  I didnt click on any links. 

And you of all people should understand where Im coming from, because you didnt get the joke and sarcasm from me, in that topic with the video of girls at New Garden.  I said the video with the chicas was fake.  Why wasnt you laughing your ass off from my attempt at humor?   

Instead you asked me what was I trying to say.  Is it finally clicking with you?  Of why you need to be careful in what you say?   Maybe you are out of touch and dont know a common way people communicate humor?   You were confused on why I was saying what I said.  Which means you aint the only one who reacts to shit they are not sure about. 

But here's the key.  In that thread, I wasnt directing any jokes or sarcasm towards anyone in the thread.  My remarks was strictly towards the content.   So if you are so in touch on recognizing humor, you should have been Laughing your ass off to my humor in that thread.   It didnt work out that way, did it?   So... we can squash this shit right now, stop f--king analyzing each other, and get back to the discussion without making it personal.   That is, if you can do that?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 15, 2023, 07:38:58 AM
Last comment:

If anybody on a faceless whore board called you the word "motherf--ker" and it gets you in such a state of defensiveness & revenge; then I am very sure that you would indeed take it extremely personal when a 3rd World prostitute shows up late for an appointment with you. 

That is not an assumption, that is just you. 

May the Force Be With You!!..................................or  Maybe Not!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 07:48:11 AM
Last comment:

If anybody on a faceless whore board called you the word "motherf--ker" and it gets you in such a state of defensiveness & revenge; then I am very sure that you would indeed take it extremely personal when a 3rd World prostitute shows up late for an appointment with you. 

That is not an assumption, that is just you. 

May the Force Be With You!!..................................or  Maybe Not!!!
Like wise, if anybody on a faceless whore board called you names due to something you initiated, and it gets you in such a state of defensiveness and revenge, then I am very sure that you would indeed take it personal when a 3rd world prostitute in Sosua shows up late for an appointment with you. 

And in addition , when someone mushes you in the face with your own bullshit and you aint humble enough to STFU,   That is just you, that is not an assumption.   Now you are done, HERE.  Since you refused my olive branch in good spirit. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on January 15, 2023, 08:43:43 AM
I’m kind of happy Murano is doing this. If I lived in Sosua after the first month or two I’d probably be writing novels myself. For me it’s more of coping with frustration and boredom, due to living in the environment. Paradise can become a drain at times, and writing observations like an open journal would be a fix because it’s like a productive rant.

Not saying that’s why he’s doing it, but I’ll do the same behavior because I know myself. Like a weekly trip report. I’m going back March, haven’t been since October so it’s kind of nice to get a feel of how things are developing when I’m gone.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 15, 2023, 09:06:10 AM
@Murano,
I had one who the week before my arrival…(Decemeber trip) was texting me daily.
I told her….(everytime she texted) I arrive December 4, meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm and gave her the room number.

Day of my trip, during my layover in Miami she texts me asking are you arriving today, I tell her yes to meet me at 4:00pm at Casa Valeria and again I give her the room number. Do we have agreement and she answers yes.

I arrive at 2:15pm..... 4:00pm comes,  she's a no show. (No problem) I see one walking by Casa Valeria and chill with her

5:00pm I get a text, its old girl asking Papi what happened, My response what do you mean what happened..

Her - you didn't write me..
Me  - Yes I did, this morning at 11:00am.. I told you to meet me at Casa Valeria at 4:00pm
Her - You want me to come now
Me - No I'm busy right now
Her - You told me we would be together
Me - True... but you did not honor the agreement, Gracias and goodbye.
Your scenario is exactly the type of shit some chicas try to get dudes to put up with.  "So you want me to come now?"    A classic response.   Another is :  "Estas enojado?"   Which means, "Are you angry?"

The whole reason I developed a strategy to dealing with lateness , is so I dont need to be angry or pissed.  If I choose to cancel a meeting, Ive just mitigated allowing a chick to waste my time.   And like you, I can get somebody else available to take a chicks place.    Or do nothing.     

If you’re living here you got a lot of time to waste. Like it or not often those chicks are not ultimately in control of their lives and they belong to a culture that is notorious for being consistently tarde. Also though we think we should be important bottom line is that we’re almost always just another hustle to them as they are purely disposable most of the time to many of us. To be honest about it we simply aren’t important enough for them to believe they owe us promptness which something that’s completely outside their normal behavior pattern. The key is to have a deep bullpen and not get all worked up because a chick you don’t really give a damn about misses an appointment. It just ain’t that big of a deal.
Jazzy, you are limited in your scope.  I know everything you just stated and then some.  Your suggestion to have a deep bullpen, is just one option.  But see, nobody has to use just that option or one option.   A person can exercise as many options as they see fit.   

A man doesnt need a bullpen for chicks being late.  He can do something else.  Like get the message across, of what chicks needs to do if they intend to do business with him.   

Your solution of turning to other women as the only solution, does not deal directly with the issue.  If chicks are notoriously tarde like you say, then it should be expected that the chicks in your bullpen will be tarde too.   What have you accomplished if the chicks in your BP are also doing the same f--king shit? 

For the esoteric few.  A decent strategy is to take charge and offer guidance on how chicks you interact with can prepare for a meet.   Once the time is set, one can advise the chick to message him when she is on her way.  If where she is coming from is known,  he should be able to estimate how much time the chick needs, and how much time he will allow for her to get to the meet.     

If he discerns that she is not going to make it, he can very well decide to abort.   Like if a chick is supposed meet at 8pm in Sosua and she is in PP,  that chick should at least be leaving PP by 645 to 7pm.   A man if he chooses can cut her some slack of being a few minutes late.   But if the chick says she is on her way at 745,  how the f--k is she going to get to Sosua by 8pm?   

Those are the type of scenarios a man may choose to avoid or entertain.  And they are also the type of scenarios where chicks have a guy waiting for no f--king reason except disrespecting the mans time.   

I realize that some chicks are assbackwards in their thinking. The time to meet is not the time you leave where you are coming from.   Some of these chicks need some guidance on how to handle their own time management.  What they do on their own time is their business.  I aint trying to change them, just letting them know how I roll.   Those who dont like that type of structure,  they can keep it moving.   

Nickm's scenario is a common example.  He didnt take the bait of letting her BS her way in.  He took matters in his own hands.  And before that, he rightly communicated with the chick to confirm that she had the time of the meet right.   The extra communication Im suggesting makes perfect sense.  Have a chick communicate when she is on her way.  That way a guy has some variables to work with.  Finding out at the meet hour that a chick is a no show, is not the best option for the guy.   

But making a chick take responsibility in communicating her status, goes a long way in discerning if a guy should go forth with a meet or abort.   
  Key words ,time management its amazing how these chicas function,,  i know its supose to be a slower pace down here .but its like every one is in clutch speed,, going to say only 1 in 10 chicas are going to be on time,, some may be a few minutes late some 1 hour 2 hours 3 hours if there in portou platta ,,, use reverse phycology. tell the an hour before you really want them to show up    have fun !


 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 15, 2023, 09:47:28 AM
Funny thing is I know a guy who just got here, went into super simp mode with a girl who told him she just wants to keep it casual. Now he's talking about going to the DR Because the women are less flakey

Dudes need to be honest with themselves and saying that they are really looking for love and validation from these chicks not sex.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 15, 2023, 09:49:05 AM
IMHO the beef here is some guys still live by the clock and some don't. Even thought I stay for months, if I tell a chica to come at a set time (as said before, I SAY 1 hour earlier), just ghost her if shes a no show. The only time they learn is if they loose money!

Correcto. The only thing you can control is what you do with your money.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 10:17:02 AM
I’m kind of happy Murano is doing this. If I lived in Sosua after the first month or two I’d probably be writing novels myself. For me it’s more of coping with frustration and boredom, due to living in the environment. Paradise can become a drain at times, and writing observations like an open journal would be a fix because it’s like a productive rant.

Not saying that’s why he’s doing it, but I’ll do the same behavior because I know myself. Like a weekly trip report. I’m going back March, haven’t been since October so it’s kind of nice to get a feel of how things are developing when I’m gone.
Duly noted.  In my case?  I created this thread for the purpose for members and myself to all contribute updates on current events, even if it wasnt exactly on the strip or in Sosua.  I started the ball rolling, and the thread took off. 

I felt that since I started the thread, it was kinda my responsibility to help maintain it, along with everybody else.    From March to Dec, I was physically absent from Sosua.    So my contribution to THIS thread reflected that absence. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 10:21:26 AM

Key words ,time management its amazing how these chicas function,,  i know its supose to be a slower pace down here .but its like every one is in clutch speed,, going to say only 1 in 10 chicas are going to be on time,, some may be a few minutes late some 1 hour 2 hours 3 hours if there in portou platta ,,, use reverse phycology. tell the an hour before you really want them to show up    have fun !
That is another strategy, telling them an hour earlier than you want them.  Been there, done that.

For me, I see it as counter productive.   I know how Im wired.   I know that chicas are generally wired and incentivized by making money.   So I put the onus on them to take responsibility for doing business with me.  I give them the information they need to make an appointment happen.  I also show them by example the potential consequences of what may happen on my end if they're late or a no show.   Them missing the opportunity to make money, is something they would determine whether its a loss or not.

My goal is not to act like some chick lost out.  My goal simply is about avoiding a chick wasting my time. 

If I can have success influencing changing a chicks behavior, for the life of me, I dont know why other men cant do it, wont do it,  or are resistant to using that as an option.   But then, I do have a theory.  I believe enough men are not used to holding women they desire and lust for, accountable.   It's much easier to use the excuse about being late is part of their culture.   

Rather than suggesting or telling a chica what she needs to do, as far as communication.   I see,  men taking control of a situation and telling a woman to do something, doesnt sit well with some men.  You see how some will misinterpret a man doing that? 

All of a sudden hes supposedly Gods Gift.   He's functioning outside of the parameters of being a John.   Some of these exchanges reveals a lot in how protective some men are when it comes to women, espectially p4p chicks.       

BTW there are examples all over Sosua showing that locals can be on time, and enough practice being on time on a daily basis.    Thats why I dont accept any low expectation excuses.     

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 11:14:35 AM
Tug, got a question.  In the states or wherever you are from?  How would you handle chronic lateness with women ( regular or p4p ) in the states?  Do you tell them to come an hour eariler than the time you want them to come?   Or something different?

For me?  Lets say I was meeting a chick somewhere in the states?  Maybe a Tinder chick?  The same thing I would tell a DR chick, I would tell that Tinder date.  I would confirm a time of the meet.  Tell her to message me/Call me when she is on her way.  Advise her, that if something comes up that changes the plan, message or call to update me.   I advise her that I will do the same on my end. 

Can DR chicks operate under those guidelines?  Yes they can, and enough do.  But if an individual doesnt pursue that basic common sense level of communication with ANY woman, they probably will never get to see a chick being on time, except on their own accord. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 15, 2023, 11:40:08 AM

Key words ,time management its amazing how these chicas function,,  i know its supose to be a slower pace down here .but its like every one is in clutch speed,, going to say only 1 in 10 chicas are going to be on time,, some may be a few minutes late some 1 hour 2 hours 3 hours if there in portou platta ,,, use reverse phycology. tell the an hour before you really want them to show up    have fun !
That is another strategy, telling them an hour earlier than you want them.  Been there, done that.

For me, I see it as counter productive.   I know how Im wired.   I know that chicas are generally wired and incentivized by making money.   So I put the onus on them to take responsibility for doing business with me.  I give them the information they need to make an appointment happen.  I also show them by example the potential consequences of what may happen on my end if they're late or a no show.   Them missing the opportunity to make money, is something they would determine whether its a loss or not.

My goal is not to act like some chick lost out.  My goal simply is about avoiding a chick wasting my time. 

If I can have success influencing changing a chicks behavior, for the life of me, I dont know why other men cant do it, wont do it,  or are resistant to using that as an option.   But then, I do have a theory.  I believe enough men are not used to holding women they desire and lust for, accountable.   It's much easier to use the excuse about being late is part of their culture.   

Rather than suggesting or telling a chica what she needs to do, as far as communication.   I see,  men taking control of a situation and telling a woman to do something, doesnt sit well with some men.  You see how some will misinterpret a man doing that? 

All of a sudden hes supposedly Gods Gift.   He's functioning outside of the parameters of being a John.   Some of these exchanges reveals a lot in how protective some men are when it comes to women, espectially p4p chicks.       

BTW there are examples all over Sosua showing that locals can be on time, and enough practice being on time on a daily basis.    Thats why I dont accept any low expectation excuses.   
@Murano,
All the street kids practice the art of being where and when there told…

Promise one something and tell him to be there at 12:00pm… He’s there at 11:45am…. Looking at you as if your late..😂
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 12:13:37 PM

Key words ,time management its amazing how these chicas function,,  i know its supose to be a slower pace down here .but its like every one is in clutch speed,, going to say only 1 in 10 chicas are going to be on time,, some may be a few minutes late some 1 hour 2 hours 3 hours if there in portou platta ,,, use reverse phycology. tell the an hour before you really want them to show up    have fun !
That is another strategy, telling them an hour earlier than you want them.  Been there, done that.

For me, I see it as counter productive.   I know how Im wired.   I know that chicas are generally wired and incentivized by making money.   So I put the onus on them to take responsibility for doing business with me.  I give them the information they need to make an appointment happen.  I also show them by example the potential consequences of what may happen on my end if they're late or a no show.   Them missing the opportunity to make money, is something they would determine whether its a loss or not.

My goal is not to act like some chick lost out.  My goal simply is about avoiding a chick wasting my time. 

If I can have success influencing changing a chicks behavior, for the life of me, I dont know why other men cant do it, wont do it,  or are resistant to using that as an option.   But then, I do have a theory.  I believe enough men are not used to holding women they desire and lust for, accountable.   It's much easier to use the excuse about being late is part of their culture.   

Rather than suggesting or telling a chica what she needs to do, as far as communication.   I see,  men taking control of a situation and telling a woman to do something, doesnt sit well with some men.  You see how some will misinterpret a man doing that? 

All of a sudden hes supposedly Gods Gift.   He's functioning outside of the parameters of being a John.   Some of these exchanges reveals a lot in how protective some men are when it comes to women, espectially p4p chicks.       

BTW there are examples all over Sosua showing that locals can be on time, and enough practice being on time on a daily basis.    Thats why I dont accept any low expectation excuses.   
@Murano,
All the street kids practice the art of being where and when there told…

Promise one something and tell him to be there at 12:00pm… He’s there at 11:45am.
Thats right, I forgot about that.   I feel the same way about Sosua taxi drivers.  You tell some of those taxi drivers that you need a ride to the airport on such a such a day,  they will be there on time or before your departure.   If they got your number, they will let you know that they want your business.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 01:57:46 PM
Real Live Whatsapp convo,  featuring Murano, and the same Tinder Haitian chica from the other night :

Me : Que tu hace hoy?
Chica : Nada amor y tu?
Chica again :que yo quiero ir para Sosua hoy amor
Chica again : y tambien te quiero ver amor
Me : Esta bien
Chica : ok amor a que hora?
Me : puedes estar aqui a las 7 o 8pm?
Chica : A las 8pm amor
Me : enviame un mensaje cuando estas de camino aqui. puedes salir de tu casa a las 7:15pm
Chica : Esta bien amor
Chica again : yo salgo a las 7:15pm
Me : ok

To sum it up. I put out the bait to hire her.  By asking what she was doing today?  She says Im doing nothing and you?  Then she claims she wants to go to Sosua today.  Then says she wants to see me too.  I say ok. 

She asks me what time?  I asked her can she be here by 7 or 8pm?  She says at 8pm.   I say ok.  I tell her to message me when she is on her way.  Then I add, that she can leave at 7:15pm.  She agrees, then repeats that she will leave at 7:15pm.   

That is a start to how I would go about managing getting together with a chick.  Now it doesnt really matter where she starts from.  It doesnt matter to me whether I know she needs a baby sitter.  It doesnt matter what preparations she may need in order to be on time. 

Not even if she is with some other dude.  All that matters is her being at my place by 8pm.  And that she notifies me when she is leaving to be on her way.   How she manages her end, will determine whether or not the meet/date happens.   

I can shift gears depending on what happens at the time she is supposed to advise me that she is on her way.   This is what I have done in some instances.   Chick has an 8pm appt, right?   Chica fails to message me that she is on her way.   I may message her to tell her, that since I havent heard from you, I am assuming you are not coming.   I am going out somewhere.  See you another day.     

What usually happens next?  Like clockwork, all of a sudden texts or calls start coming in, with them claiming that they are near.  If I take the call or respond, I'll decide then if I want to see the chick.  I have in enough instances, just insisted that I will see them another day.  Then cut it short.  And why?   Because in some instances,  I just feel like showing them what can happen when you dont do what they agreed to.

The other reason is, very often they are wasting your time.  Or maybe not even on their way yet.   But they wont tell you that.  Next thing you know, the chick is an hour or two late.   

When I change plans like that,  after that point, thats when enough chicks ( the ones I intend to see again ) end up showing up on time, and keeping me informed when necessary.  It's like they are self taught on what they need to do.  They may still do the same with other guys, but they know they need to make the adjustment with me.   And I dont mind repeating doing it, if they put me in that position again.   






Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 15, 2023, 06:58:30 PM
That's all well and good and generally how I move too. But You can't expect a Dub Dub who flew hundreds if not thoasands of miles to be there already spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to let a little thing like lateness deter them. It's her tardiness vs. his thirst. Usually thirst overcomes basic dignity.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 15, 2023, 07:05:42 PM
Break out the Light Sabers and now its on!!!  Calling me a MoFo has got me fired up on Saturday morning!!!  Wrote a song about it; want to hear it, here it go!!!

https://youtu.be/QfzDUpB88x4

@Murano do understand this; its easy to sound condescending when your talking to an idiot. That be you.  You are all up in your feelings and butt hurt because a prostitute didn't show up on time? This same prostitute is a female that you were hoping to become a "Raw Dick Regular."  Could that be the real reason behind why you have sooo much piss and venom in your comments?  You done wrote a damn book laying out your 1st world feelings about what you perceive to be the disrespectful actions of a 3rd World prostitute's timeliness because you didn't get to slip & slide on the raw side?

All of the comments come from a place of indignation, disgust and betrayal.  How could that be?  Because you are attempting to hold a 3rd World prostitute to a standard of a 1st World Prostitute.  (No I did not say civilian)  Did you not ever date a woman before in your life in the real world? Did you not ever realize that now; because of COVID and the Global Recession that came afterwards; that the logistical support structure is still in turmoil all over the world and that also affects transportation?

Bruh, you and your crew are rolling in that Klown Kar riding on those 24' spinning rims!!!  You are a dude that wants what he wants---WHEN WE WANTS IT!!!   And when you don't get your way; you pitch a bitch & throw the chica completely under the bus & look at it as she is disrespecting you. 

To the other riders in the Klown Kar;..........I am staying on point.  We are talking about "Chica's that are Coming from out of Town and Arrive Late".

In order to come to our location; these chicas must;

1.  Coordinate travel by Bus, Van Bus, Taxi Car or Moto Concho
2.  Coordinate a babysitter.
3.  Get physically ready (Bath, Hair, clothes, make-up)

And to be very clear---All of the 3 identified issues as written are the things that she must do in a 3rd World environment and ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTROL WHATSOEVER & CAN BE NEGATIVLEY IMPACTED BY THE WEATHER. 

@Nickmirr

Once she arrives (late or on time) and enters your 1st World environment that you have created at your hotel, apartment or villa the tables turn.  YOU ARE now in control.  I have preached about that in length as follows;
 
1.  Photo before we go to the room.  No photo is a dealbreaker and she is left in the lobby.
2.  The bareback dick-suck is the agreed to standard & she gets tossed with no pay if refused. 
3.  She gets paid afterwards as agreed with no upcharges or propina.  Demanding to get paid upfront get's her tossed with nothing.  Hold the Line!!!


Once again, she is coming from her impoverished 3rd World environment and entering your 1st World life that has structure, consistency, discipline & robust resources.  The standard goes up once she enters my world; then and only then.

What I look like paying for something that I don't want? Leave that poor customer service nonsense in the states with chicks you would actually try to impress.

Being tardy is DISRESPECTFUL, PERIOD. Nowhere in life should it be supported.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 15, 2023, 07:11:32 PM

exactly just like you can easily take another chick the chick can take another client.

your popular 9's and 10's (when they come to Sosua) is fielding dates like dudes bidding on her pussy and she's taking the best offers.

Who cares? She could be late BECAUSE of a previous client. Treat it all the same if she doesn't respect my time. I'm on vacation, my time is PRECIOUS.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 15, 2023, 08:30:23 PM
Haitian chica update :

Was out around 5:30pm today meeting up with friends.  @7:15 pm, chick had not messaged me to report being on her way.  Or the time when she would leave.  At 7:30pm I messaged her, and told her I will see her another day, "since you did not advise me that you were coming."   

Less than one minute passes, and like clockwork, chick messages me.   "mi amor, no tenia internet."
Then she says : "Yo estoy esperando carito"     I respond :  "No amor,ven otro dia"   

This is how chicks will try to finesse a dude with bullshit, and have him wasting his time.   Im all for avoiding that from happening.    Now here's where logic goes out of the window with some of these chicks.  She claims she had no internet, right?  But she clearly used internet to message me once I told her not to come. 

Additionally, she tries to manipulate the situation by telling me that she is waiting for a taxi.   Thats to get a dude to let her follow through with her bullshit.  Some chicks think them telling you they are waiting on a taxi or actually in a taxi, a guy is going to accept it, and then let her off the hook.  A dude has no clue how long she will take.  Meanwhile she may not be waiting for any taxi at that moment, like she said.  The chick can be anywhere.  With a client or still in the house.   

By aborting, I can finish socializing with friends.   Instead of waiting on some chick like a silly rabbit.   

   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 15, 2023, 08:57:24 PM
My opinion… This comes down to who is leading or being led.

Beach story:
Me and two friends are chilling on the beach drinking Casamigos tequila and beers. My boy sees three girls he knows and calls them over to join us… (two of the girls speak perfect English, the other girl some English)..  I know they understood my question.

I’m being generous and ask, what do you prefer Presidente or Corona… All three girls answer with Pina Colada.

I say to them, I never mentioned pina colada, I asked if you preferred Presidente or Corona they all responded with Corona.

 I ordered three Corona’s.. After, the one who seemed to be the lead chica, looked at me and ask, What’s your name, where you from.



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: MACK on January 15, 2023, 09:45:33 PM
Guys please relax.....it's just women selling ass......that's it...relax..pay and go


Tardiness and blah blah blah....it's Sosua....not some high society shit lol

Oh and stop debating murano..10 years and you all still have not learned....he does not fold! LMAO
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 16, 2023, 05:22:49 AM
That's all well and good and generally how I move too. But You can't expect a Dub Dub who flew hundreds if not thoasands of miles to be there already spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to let a little thing like lateness deter them. It's her tardiness vs. his thirst. Usually thirst overcomes basic dignity.
Yes, but exactly who has those expectations of them?   Individuals like that represent themselves. They do not represent the masses of men who feel, think and roll differently.  Chicas on the other hand, their problem is, not knowing the difference between a thirsty Dub Dub, and another dude thats mastered thinking on his feet.   They are going to try you regardless.   

When I used to come to the DR on vacation, I developed my own standards and style of dealing with chicas.  Went through my learning curve, and learned lessons along the way ( now it's about still learning and using situations to reinforce what I have learned ).   It's all up to an individual to see the value of what were addressing here.  Those that cant or dont, that is their problem.   Those that do, can benefit from using any method that works.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 16, 2023, 05:42:18 AM
Guys please relax.....it's just women selling ass......that's it...relax..pay and go


Tardiness and blah blah blah....it's Sosua....not some high society shit lol

Oh and stop debating murano..10 years and you all still have not learned....he does not fold! LMAO
Mack, please, You relax.  It's just men here having a discussion.  Aint nobody here suffering from a lack of ass.  Or having a problem paying for it. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 16, 2023, 06:05:48 AM
My opinion… This comes down to who is leading or being led.
Yessir.  That is a common denominator issue ,especially in regards to mongering.  Who is leading?  And who is being led?   Dealing with lateness with chicas, is just one area where men have to take the lead, instead of chicas.   Another example was the guy ( in the other thread )  that was invited by a chica to stay at her families house.

I recall an incident a few years ago.  I was at Bourbon Street.  I ordered some food for take out, but ended up starting to eat it there.   Sitting nearby was a cute chica.   I went over to her, and shared my food with her.   I asked if she wanted a Coca Cola?   She said yes.   I specifically said, "Coca Cola".   Waiter comes over and goes straight to her.   I told him she wants a Coke.  She tells him, she wants a Corona.   

Fast forward to today.  I try to avoid most situations where chicas use a mans generosity to take advantage.   A few women in the past have got their feelings hurt when their plan backfired.  They ended up with a different outcome than they expected. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 16, 2023, 10:02:49 AM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 16, 2023, 01:24:57 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

One thing I can say is that I rarely see the expats operate in a sprit of abundance, I don't know that many Sosua expats but most of the expats act like thiristy dub dubs on their first trip.

Meaning they literally don't do much else but watch pussy, talk about pussy and f--k pussy.

I'll admit when I first came down I was on a tear at first but then I calmed down shit felt like a job.

One of the reasons I left the Island is a lack of non mongering things to do and people to do them with, granted COVID put the clamps on shit but damn I never heard dudes seriously consider anything else.

That being said having access to the beach is a cheat code because going to the beach is several activities in one. It's also why I am considering moving back Cartegena is more expensive less brotherhood, more scopamine, and more aggressive hustlers.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 16, 2023, 01:29:14 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

Looking at it from the girl's frame of mind one reason why a chica doesn't care if you cut her off is because they don't really care. Shit is like Temp work to them they miss the money but not the job.

Rule number 1 is whoever cares the least gets the most and the more invested you are in any one chica the less invested they are in you. Dudes be having whole Girlfriends who don't add value to their lives and never did shit other than f--k them. Guys think because they weren't immediately charged per stroke that means that the chica cares about them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 16, 2023, 01:55:25 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

Looking at it from the girl's frame of mind one reason why a chica doesn't care if you cut her off is because they don't really care. Shit is like Temp work to them they miss the money but not the job.

Rule number 1 is whoever cares the least gets the most and the more invested you are in any one chica the less invested they are in you. Dudes be having whole Girlfriends who don't add value to their lives and never did shit other than f--k them. Guys think because they weren't immediately charged per stroke that means that the chica cares about them.

Facts.!!!!

What’s funny, dudes say I don’t believe nothing that comes out a chicas mouth, but believe there special with a chica because she told them so..🤦🏽

Him - I’m different from all the other guys.

Her - Si papi your my number one, as she text her Dominican boyfriend, that she will be there shortly with a whole chicken, rice & beans and cold Presidente’s.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 16, 2023, 02:31:13 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

Looking at it from the girl's frame of mind one reason why a chica doesn't care if you cut her off is because they don't really care. Shit is like Temp work to them they miss the money but not the job.

Rule number 1 is whoever cares the least gets the most and the more invested you are in any one chica the less invested they are in you. Dudes be having whole Girlfriends who don't add value to their lives and never did shit other than f--k them. Guys think because they weren't immediately charged per stroke that means that the chica cares about them.

Facts.!!!!

What’s funny, dudes say I don’t believe nothing that comes out a chicas mouth, but believe there special with a chica because she told them so..🤦🏽

Him - I’m different from all the other guys.

Her - Si papi your my number one, as she text her Dominican boyfriend, that she will be there shortly with a whole chicken, rice & beans and cold Presidente’s.

Claro

If you ask these women what they're spending your money on it's rarely literally on Rent or food it's either them trying to get an Iphone (so they can advertise to more guys) or they want to buy a gift for their sons.

These hoes ain't starving they would f--k off any amount of money that you give them.

Again it's not that chicas are cold hearted f--k machines You're not the first gringo they met especially in the DR, Even if they really loved you they know that you'd leave them and or leave the island.

Say waht you want about that broke ass moto concho driver at least he's good for a ride, Once that dub dub or expat is gone he's gone. So they can't and won't take you seriously.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 16, 2023, 03:18:35 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

Looking at it from the girl's frame of mind one reason why a chica doesn't care if you cut her off is because they don't really care. Shit is like Temp work to them they miss the money but not the job.

Rule number 1 is whoever cares the least gets the most and the more invested you are in any one chica the less invested they are in you. Dudes be having whole Girlfriends who don't add value to their lives and never did shit other than f--k them. Guys think because they weren't immediately charged per stroke that means that the chica cares about them.

Facts.!!!!

What’s funny, dudes say I don’t believe nothing that comes out a chicas mouth, but believe there special with a chica because she told them so..🤦🏽

Him - I’m different from all the other guys.

Her - Si papi your my number one, as she text her Dominican boyfriend, that she will be there shortly with a whole chicken, rice & beans and cold Presidente’s.

Claro

If you ask these women what they're spending your money on it's rarely literally on Rent or food it's either them trying to get an Iphone (so they can advertise to more guys) or they want to buy a gift for their sons.

These hoes ain't starving they would f--k off any amount of money that you give them.

Again it's not that chicas are cold hearted f--k machines You're not the first gringo they met especially in the DR, Even if they really loved you they know that you'd leave them and or leave the island.

Say waht you want about that broke ass moto concho driver at least he's good for a ride, Once that dub dub or expat is gone he's gone. So they can't and won't take you seriously.

Absolutely, they know or will soon find out that when all is said and done the vast majority of guys don't really give a damn about them. Too often chicks are blamed when relationships with gringos go sour. In my experience the gringo is usually at fault more so than the chick. One of my amigas who was a WU recipient had no idea the cat professing his love for her was married until his wife started blowing up her phone.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 16, 2023, 03:45:41 PM
Only one way to know what shes up to and where the money goes is to live with her. Any thing less than that for get it. We've all seen them around town , the Gringo with a Dominican wife and maybe a kid or 2.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 16, 2023, 04:49:07 PM
You got that right im living with one now  She may not be a full blown hoe  . But she got her hands out for the pesos  your getting the king papi peso talk !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 16, 2023, 06:04:10 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

One thing I can say is that I rarely see the expats operate in a sprit of abundance, I don't know that many Sosua expats but most of the expats act like thiristy dub dubs on their first trip.

Meaning they literally don't do much else but watch pussy, talk about pussy and f--k pussy.

I'll admit when I first came down I was on a tear at first but then I calmed down shit felt like a job.

One of the reasons I left the Island is a lack of non mongering things to do and people to do them with, granted COVID put the clamps on shit but damn I never heard dudes seriously consider anything else.

That being said having access to the beach is a cheat code because going to the beach is several activities in one. It's also why I am considering moving back Cartegena is more expensive less brotherhood, more scopamine, and more aggressive hustlers.
It's true. Enough expats here in Sosua, especially those who have only 5yrs and less living in here are thirst hungry vampires.   Their primary interest for living in the DR is mainly about the women. Enough of them are living here, trying to make up for their frustration from being in failed marriages back where they came from.

I personally knew several cats over the years who were acquaintances of mine.   Some would stay in touch. Ask for updates.  Advise me on when they were coming down.  They would try to sell me on the idea that they were going to be connecting when they got here.  But once they touch down, you may not see them except by accident or if they need something.   

Thing is, I have learned to expect that type of behavior from enough men.   I was never as bad as what I see in some men today.   You know simping is at an all time high when you see how some men are always defending women, especially prostitutes.  Referring to them like they are helpless poor children.    And if that isnt bad enough, the f--king narcissism coming from some cats.  Bragging about what they pay or dont pay. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 16, 2023, 06:30:11 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

Looking at it from the girl's frame of mind one reason why a chica doesn't care if you cut her off is because they don't really care. Shit is like Temp work to them they miss the money but not the job.

Rule number 1 is whoever cares the least gets the most and the more invested you are in any one chica the less invested they are in you. Dudes be having whole Girlfriends who don't add value to their lives and never did shit other than f--k them. Guys think because they weren't immediately charged per stroke that means that the chica cares about them.

Facts.!!!!

What’s funny, dudes say I don’t believe nothing that comes out a chicas mouth, but believe there special with a chica because she told them so..🤦🏽

Him - I’m different from all the other guys.

Her - Si papi your my number one, as she text her Dominican boyfriend, that she will be there shortly with a whole chicken, rice & beans and cold Presidente’s.

Claro

If you ask these women what they're spending your money on it's rarely literally on Rent or food it's either them trying to get an Iphone (so they can advertise to more guys) or they want to buy a gift for their sons.

These hoes ain't starving they would f--k off any amount of money that you give them.

Again it's not that chicas are cold hearted f--k machines You're not the first gringo they met especially in the DR, Even if they really loved you they know that you'd leave them and or leave the island.

Say waht you want about that broke ass moto concho driver at least he's good for a ride, Once that dub dub or expat is gone he's gone. So they can't and won't take you seriously.

Absolutely, they know or will soon find out that when all is said and done the vast majority of guys don't really give a damn about them. Too often chicks are blamed when relationships with gringos go sour. In my experience the gringo is usually at fault more so than the chick. One of my amigas who was a WU recipient had no idea the cat professing his love for her was married until his wife started blowing up her phone.
Of course the chicks may find out the guys may not care about them.  Thats only because most guys wake up and find out soon enough that the chicks they are dealing with, dont really care about them,  1st. 

The guys find out soon enough that the chicks care about the guy in relation to what he is able to provide.  Not because of who he is as a person.    And the shock of finding out a guy is married?  That only means the chick comes to the realization that some other woman may be a threat to her livelihood/benefits. 

Thats a more realistic perspective.  Why so?  Because in most cases, the guy doesnt even live in the DR with the woman.  Maybe living part time here and there, and only coming down every 2 months ( if that ).

That doesnt count as a real relationship.  It's only an arrangement.   And that is, as long as he provides, they pretend to be in a loving relationship.   And while a man is back home with the wife or separated.  the chick can freely f--k as many men as she chooses, until Mr married/separated man returns.   

The guy may be totally unaware of what his woman is/was capable of.  He just thinks she was masturbating and being faithful.    Her attitude may be, she isnt cheating as long as he doesnt know anything about it.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 17, 2023, 01:39:57 PM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

One thing I can say is that I rarely see the expats operate in a sprit of abundance, I don't know that many Sosua expats but most of the expats act like thiristy dub dubs on their first trip.

Meaning they literally don't do much else but watch pussy, talk about pussy and f--k pussy.

I'll admit when I first came down I was on a tear at first but then I calmed down shit felt like a job.

One of the reasons I left the Island is a lack of non mongering things to do and people to do them with, granted COVID put the clamps on shit but damn I never heard dudes seriously consider anything else.

That being said having access to the beach is a cheat code because going to the beach is several activities in one. It's also why I am considering moving back Cartegena is more expensive less brotherhood, more scopamine, and more aggressive hustlers.

It’s like being a porn producer where every day there are adult female porn workers texting you looking for a role in your next production.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 17, 2023, 03:03:55 PM
Morrano, women every where expect a man to provide for them. Weather their a wife or hoe, it's  the same, you give them money! The fact that in the DR. trading sex for things a women may need is not unusual, it does change the dynamic of a long distance relationship. If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 17, 2023, 03:21:40 PM
Bingo you got be fully aware, gee you may have that decent chica your envoled with  as long as its an open relation ship. Meaning letem work unless your there full time or your there every month, Even if your an older cat there going to want to get laid when your not there,  as far as im concerned could care less as long as there front and center when your there. Side note im down here 2 months ,for exersise i walk all over the place as far as casa linda good hours walk  ,there are chicas every where. For intance popped into super pola  grab a few things. Hot chicas and regular chicas all over the place , they will smile and say hola  so get of the shabby strip and venture out !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 17, 2023, 05:57:59 PM
Morrano, women every where expect a man to provide for them. Weather their a wife or hoe, it's  the same, you give them money! The fact that in the DR. trading sex for things a women may need is not unusual, it does change the dynamic of a long distance relationship. If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas.
Thats interesting.  I had no idea that you knew that.  I believe most guys here already know that.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 17, 2023, 06:33:02 PM
I think the issue I was addressing really, is how does a guy determine that gringos are usually to blame for why a relationship goes sour?   Now I realize that was strictly from someones own experience, and it was acknowledged.  But that perspective does not mean overall , nor should it be suggested , that gringos are usually to blame.  It's not intentionally said, but it seems presupposed.  In other words an attempt to see men as mostly the blame for most relationships going sour.  But playing it safe by saying, only from their experience.

So what happens when others have a different experience where women have been mostly to blame for relationships going sour?   

Point being, Both men and women can be to blame without it being more coming from one gender over the other.

For every situation where a gringo may be to blame for a relationship going sour,  Im sure anybody can match it with just as many scenarios where a woman was at blame.   And the reason why I am addressing this,  is because I suspect statements leaning towards blaming men, there is an undercurrent of trying to  designate women as victims, and men as being more prone to being perpetrators of harm to women.   

Never acknowledging that the same level of blame can apply to women towards men.     And this doesnt even have to be about a relationship.   It can be a lot of ways women are to blame for wronging men.
In the p4p game, how often do we hear stories of women bamboozling men out of their money? 

Him losing a bunch of shit that she never paid for?  Men having to pay court settlements in order to get rid of a chick.  Who steals the most towards the other?   Women towards men?  Or Men towards women?   Safe robbing.  Jewelry robbing.  Stealing money from his pants pocket while hes in the shower.  Personal belongings, moving her family or other boyfriend in a place the gringo provides for.   etc.   

Most men arent doing that shit to women.   The most men may be accused of with DR women, is cheating on a woman.   Most gringos know not to put their hands on a woman, especially in the DR.   So how bad could any blame be coming from a man, compared to what many women have done or are capable of doing to a man?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 17, 2023, 06:55:52 PM
In all fairness,  I should knowledge how some gringos are fathering children and leaving them and the woman.  Matched by women falsely accusing men of a pregnancy or a birth.  And also getting paid for it.   Like I said.  For every f--ked up thing a gringo is known for,  it can easily be matched by some f--ked up shit DR women are known for. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on January 18, 2023, 07:03:12 AM
Blame usual goes to the gringo because it’s it’s 100 women, the gringo is the one who picked from the selection. Kind of like driving a car that transmission failed. Others could have driven all day and night, but around 120k and up, if no maintenance was done, failure eventually can happen even if it’s your first time driving. The person should have check the odometer, Maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, their own, a rental or another’s and just drives without thinking about negative consequences.

Same with a chica, my boy might have a great time and my experience is shit. Maybe he kisses her, panders to her, has a different size member so accommodating myself for sex is a lot different, etc… and it doesn’t have to be money related. You can see some chicas ain’t shit on their face, yet a phat ass will make some disregard it.

There was a chica me and buddy was trying to talk down for another. Dude was so thirsty he chimes in repeatedly and while we were working her down to 50-60$ for a ST he was blurting out 70-90$ is fine let’s wrap up the negotiations despite it being less than 5 minutes and we were just making sure there was clarity in what was agreed upon. However due to his frequent interjections and blatant thirst, I assumed she’d try to rip buddy off. Couldn’t be me, but in his case even if he made a neutral choice, it was skewing to negative because she seen he was eager and quick to part with money
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on January 18, 2023, 12:39:35 PM
 

Him losing a bunch of shit that she never paid for?  Men having to pay court settlements in order to get rid of a chick.  Who steals the most towards the other?   Women towards men?  Or Men towards women?   Safe robbing.  Jewelry robbing.  Stealing money from his pants pocket while hes in the shower.  Personal belongings, moving her family or other boyfriend in a place the gringo provides for.   etc.   
 

Hey Murano, this is a question that I have had for years.  How do you get a Dominican family out of your house after you break up with the woman?   Let's say she has been living with you for 2 years and you decide that you want out of the relationship.  How do you get Her/ Family out of your house?  Do you have to go to Court and grant them 30 days to vacate?   Can you have a couple of "friends" come over and help them pack their shit and get out?  How does it work?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on January 18, 2023, 06:02:17 PM
You leave
They stay
😂😂😂
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 18, 2023, 07:09:51 PM
Blame usual goes to the gringo because it’s it’s 100 women, the gringo is the one who picked from the selection. Kind of like driving a car that transmission failed. Others could have driven all day and night, but around 120k and up, if no maintenance was done, failure eventually can happen even if it’s your first time driving. The person should have check the odometer, Maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, their own, a rental or another’s and just drives without thinking about negative consequences.

Same with a chica, my boy might have a great time and my experience is shit. Maybe he kisses her, panders to her, has a different size member so accommodating myself for sex is a lot different, etc… and it doesn’t have to be money related. You can see some chicas ain’t shit on their face, yet a phat ass will make some disregard it.

There was a chica me and buddy was trying to talk down for another. Dude was so thirsty he chimes in repeatedly and while we were working her down to 50-60$ for a ST he was blurting out 70-90$ is fine let’s wrap up the negotiations despite it being less than 5 minutes and we were just making sure there was clarity in what was agreed upon. However due to his frequent interjections and blatant thirst, I assumed she’d try to rip buddy off. Couldn’t be me, but in his case even if he made a neutral choice, it was skewing to negative because she seen he was eager and quick to part with money
I can appreciate your analogy.  If I am understanding correctly you have provided a scenario that illustrates a truism that does apply to enough men.  And yet I dont see that scenario as something women are exempt from having blame for being negligent of. 

Take 100 DR/Haitian women.  Almost all of them may share the same story.   Most will have a child or children by one man or multiple men who have left them high and dry.   Soo....the Dr/Haitian chick left with child or children by men not taking care of their responsibility, are the ones those women picked from a selection.   In enough cases a man did not leave them. 

They wanted a baby, and didnt care if a man was there or not.  The DR families role is to support the dysfunction in the family, culture and community. 
Men and women are both supported in their f--kery.   Mothers, Aunts grandmothers , sisters all eagerly and routinely help take care of the children made from the irresponsibility of both men and women.  When they both consort with gringos,  the gringo is designated as the cleanup man for their shortcomings.     

As the scenario goes.....the women should have checked the odometer, maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, and just drive without thinking about negative consequences. 

So by the time a local woman gets with a gringo, they have made themselves out to be victims.  Taking no responsibility in how they ended up as another woman who failed to choose a decent man to father their children.  Compounding the problem by choosing the gringo,  mainly because he can provide resources, not necessarily because of him having good character.   

In other words, who can I get to save me from all of the f--ked up decisions Ive made with the men that only wanted to hit it?   I know.  When I encounter a gringo, I will tell him that I dont like the men from my culture.  That most of them are malo.  Never mind that they are sporting one to 6 kids by the men they supposedly hate.   If you hated those men, then why the f--k do you keep having children by them?

And why havent all women in the same boat shared that hate and shut that shit down?  Because it's all a lie.  They love having children.   Responsibility is not even in their vocabulary. 

And gringo men?   They eat that shit up.  Yup, she's a victim alright.  What she needs is a man like me that knows how to treat a "good" woman.  She gets the good woman title. for no reason other than because she has a vagina, attractive and f--kable. 

My conclusion?  Women are no better than men when it comes to being negligent in how they operate, and who they consort with.  It's just a matter of knowing and comparing scenarios that fit each perspective accordingly.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 18, 2023, 07:27:34 PM
 

Him losing a bunch of shit that she never paid for?  Men having to pay court settlements in order to get rid of a chick.  Who steals the most towards the other?   Women towards men?  Or Men towards women?   Safe robbing.  Jewelry robbing.  Stealing money from his pants pocket while hes in the shower.  Personal belongings, moving her family or other boyfriend in a place the gringo provides for.   etc.   
 

Hey Murano, this is a question that I have had for years.  How do you get a Dominican family out of your house after you break up with the woman?   Let's say she has been living with you for 2 years and you decide that you want out of the relationship.  How do you get Her/ Family out of your house?  Do you have to go to Court and grant them 30 days to vacate?   Can you have a couple of "friends" come over and help them pack their shit and get out?  How does it work?
I have no specific knowledge or experience of how that can be accomplished.   All I recall is hearing stories of men taking L's, and having to cut their losses.   And me?  I will use those stories to reinforce that I will never purposely put myself in that type of situation EVER.   

It's bad enough consorting with p4p chicks and allowing them in your place.   For a session, or have them hanging out in your place.   A chick can potentially get hurt in your company.  Like slipping in the shower.  Get hurt in a vehicle you are driving ( or pasola ), get sick from food or drink in your company.   Maybe from food/drink you provided.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 18, 2023, 07:41:21 PM
A sad day for a gringo motorcyclist, that was killed today.  He was driving a big bike that looked like a Harley.  This happened in Cabarete about a 1/4 mile past Janets Supermercado ( towards Sabaneta ).   When I passed the incident, it had already occurred.  Right on Route 5.  His body was on the ocean side of the road, covered by pieces of cardboard.  His motorcycle was on a flatbed already.  Couldnt really see the damage to it, if any?

     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on January 18, 2023, 08:42:15 PM
Blame usual goes to the gringo because it’s it’s 100 women, the gringo is the one who picked from the selection. Kind of like driving a car that transmission failed. Others could have driven all day and night, but around 120k and up, if no maintenance was done, failure eventually can happen even if it’s your first time driving. The person should have check the odometer, Maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, their own, a rental or another’s and just drives without thinking about negative consequences.

Same with a chica, my boy might have a great time and my experience is shit. Maybe he kisses her, panders to her, has a different size member so accommodating myself for sex is a lot different, etc… and it doesn’t have to be money related. You can see some chicas ain’t shit on their face, yet a phat ass will make some disregard it.

There was a chica me and buddy was trying to talk down for another. Dude was so thirsty he chimes in repeatedly and while we were working her down to 50-60$ for a ST he was blurting out 70-90$ is fine let’s wrap up the negotiations despite it being less than 5 minutes and we were just making sure there was clarity in what was agreed upon. However due to his frequent interjections and blatant thirst, I assumed she’d try to rip buddy off. Couldn’t be me, but in his case even if he made a neutral choice, it was skewing to negative because she seen he was eager and quick to part with money
I can appreciate your analogy.  If I am understanding correctly you have provided a scenario that illustrates a truism that does apply to enough men.  And yet I dont see that scenario as something women are exempt from having blame for being negligent of. 

Take 100 DR/Haitian women.  Almost all of them may share the same story.   Most will have a child or children by one man or multiple men who have left them high and dry.   Soo....the Dr/Haitian chick left with child or children by men not taking care of their responsibility, are the ones those women picked from a selection.   In enough cases a man did not leave them. 

They wanted a baby, and didnt care if a man was there or not.  The DR families role is to support the dysfunction in the family, culture and community. 
Men and women are both supported in their f--kery.   Mothers, Aunts grandmothers , sisters all eagerly and routinely help take care of the children made from the irresponsibility of both men and women.  When they both consort with gringos,  the gringo is designated as the cleanup man for their shortcomings.     

As the scenario goes.....the women should have checked the odometer, maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, and just drive without thinking about negative consequences. 

So by the time a local woman gets with a gringo, they have made themselves out to be victims.  Taking no responsibility in how they ended up as another woman who failed to choose a decent man to father their children.  Compounding the problem by choosing the gringo,  mainly because he can provide resources, not necessarily because of him having good character.   

In other words, who can I get to save me from all of the f--ked up decisions Ive made with the men that only wanted to hit it?   I know.  When I encounter a gringo, I will tell him that I dont like the men from my culture.  That most of them are malo.  Never mind that they are sporting one to 6 kids by the men they supposedly hate.   If you hated those men, then why the f--k do you keep having children by them?

And why havent all women in the same boat shared that hate and shut that shit down?  Because it's all a lie.  They love having children.   Responsibility is not even in their vocabulary. 

And gringo men?   They eat that shit up.  Yup, she's a victim alright.  What she needs is a man like me that knows how to treat a "good" woman.  She gets the good woman title. for no reason other than because she has a vagina, attractive and f--kable. 

My conclusion?  Women are no better than men when it comes to being negligent in how they operate, and who they consort with.  It's just a matter of knowing and comparing scenarios that fit each perspective accordingly.
Well you missed the point on the assumed blame. Take renting a car, you know the only way to not get burned in the DR, is to not rent at all. Now you may rent and be perfectly fine, however you should be aware you’re taking a noticeable risk. The DR was/is on top of auto fatalities this side of the hemisphere. It’s a lot of intoxicated people who shouldn’t be behind the wheel.

When a tourist gets caught up in some headache that involves a vehicle, one can be aloof when resigned to the fact “if you didn’t rent, it’d never occur” ex if you walk from playero to the beach no one bothers you. You drive/ride from playero you can get stopped for paperwork, helmet, Seatbelt, checkpoint, etc… if you end up losing money, know it would not have occurred if you walked. Police not checking tourist randomly outside, but they are visible stopping vehicles.

Some guys have a lack of awareness. You are dealing with hookers so awareness and accountability is important. You’re dealing with a deviant person, or rather non traditional and are taking assumed risks. If you didn’t deal with the person to begin with you would not have the issue for deception, theft, lies, etc… it’s apart of the risk when dealing with prostitution despite location. It’s an assumed risk
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 02:52:02 AM
Well you missed the point on the assumed blame. Take renting a car, you know the only way to not get burned in the DR, is to not rent at all. Now you may rent and be perfectly fine, however you should be aware you’re taking a noticeable risk. The DR was/is on top of auto fatalities this side of the hemisphere. It’s a lot of intoxicated people who shouldn’t be behind the wheel.

When a tourist gets caught up in some headache that involves a vehicle, one can be aloof when resigned to the fact “if you didn’t rent, it’d never occur” ex if you walk from playero to the beach no one bothers you. You drive/ride from playero you can get stopped for paperwork, helmet, Seatbelt, checkpoint, etc… if you end up losing money, know it would not have occurred if you walked. Police not checking tourist randomly outside, but they are visible stopping vehicles.

Some guys have a lack of awareness. You are dealing with hookers so awareness and accountability is important. You’re dealing with a deviant person, or rather non traditional and are taking assumed risks. If you didn’t deal with the person to begin with you would not have the issue for deception, theft, lies, etc… it’s apart of the risk when dealing with prostitution despite location. It’s an assumed risk
So basically what I may have missed is that you were ONLY focused on scenarios that would fit how some gringo/foreigner men go about relating to DR or local women?   Taking risks, being negligent in not vetting properly, putting themselves in unfavorable circumstances.    And you are saying that gringo/foreigner men are usually to blame for that.  Usually to blame for the negative results when dealing with DR/local women.   

If I got it right this time, I agree with that.  If that is the case, was someone suggesting that men are not usually to blame for that particular man/woman dynamic?  Because for the most part, I would think that reality would be already understood.   

In essence, I wasnt sure of what specific comment or perspective you were originally responding to, since you did not quote anybody or anything?   And I guess before I responded to your original comment, I probably should have got an understanding 1st, of what particular comments that you were responding to, and who you were responding to? 


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 03:14:33 AM
I was wondering though.  When it comes to gringo/foreigner women dealing with DR or local men, who is usually to blame when a gringo/foreigner female takes risks or suffers similar or specific consequences for that relationship/involvement?  Do female gringos/foreigners have less blame for the risks they take and the consequences they endure?  I would think not.     

It may be agreed to by many of us here, that we know or are aware of more scenarios where gringo/foreigner men take risks and endure consequences, than seeing the scenarios of gringo/foreigner women with local men.  But that doesnt mean men are generally more to blame than women for taking risks or enduring consequences.   When were talking about the dynamic of gringos/foreigners relating to locals ( men or women ).    Negligence and risk taking, and having to deal with consequences can apply to both genders.   

It's just that one group is comprised of gringo/foreigner men and the other is gringo/foreigner women, all participating in dealing with extreme risk and potential consequences consorting with locals, but usually with the opposite sex.   

And for those into deviant endeavors ( man or woman ), no matter who it is, they are to blame moreso for their risks and consequences.    My overall point is,  I dont see men ( simply because they are male ) as inherently or generally more to blame when it comes to taking risks or suffering consequences when dealing with locals.   And therefore : 

Some women have a lack of awareness too. They are dealing with local men , so awareness and accountability is important to them as well. They are dealing with a deviant person, or rather non traditional and are taking assumed risks. If they didn’t deal with the person to begin with they would not have the issue of deception, theft, lies, etc… it’s apart of the risk when dealing with prostitution/local men despite location. It’s an assumed risk

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on January 19, 2023, 04:17:09 AM
I think the issue I was addressing really, is how does a guy determine that gringos are usually to blame for why a relationship goes sour?   Now I realize that was strictly from someones own experience, and it was acknowledged.  But that perspective does not mean overall , nor should it be suggested , that gringos are usually to blame.  It's not intentionally said, but it seems presupposed.  In other words an attempt to see men as mostly the blame for most relationships going sour.  But playing it safe by saying, only from their experience.

So what happens when others have a different experience where women have been mostly to blame for relationships going sour?   

This was the qoute. My position is gringo men made the choice to play with fire. Them getting burnt is a risk they took. Had they never messed with fire to begin with they’d avoid an issue. It isn’t right, but the men should definitely be aware that a lot of the women aren’t shit. It’s a part of the cons of a transactional or rather conditional relationship.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 04:35:02 AM
I think the issue I was addressing really, is how does a guy determine that gringos are usually to blame for why a relationship goes sour?   Now I realize that was strictly from someones own experience, and it was acknowledged.  But that perspective does not mean overall , nor should it be suggested , that gringos are usually to blame.  It's not intentionally said, but it seems presupposed.  In other words an attempt to see men as mostly the blame for most relationships going sour.  But playing it safe by saying, only from their experience.

So what happens when others have a different experience where women have been mostly to blame for relationships going sour?   

This was the qoute. My position is gringo men made the choice to play with fire. Them getting burnt is a risk they took. Had they never messed with fire to begin with they’d avoid an issue. It isn’t right, but the men should definitely be aware that a lot of the women aren’t shit. It’s a part of the cons of a transactional or rather conditional relationship.
Ok cool,  but what I was referring to in the piece you quoted, was the allegation that blame for a relationship going sour was usually the blame/fault of a man.   Whereas you were not addressing the dynamics of a relationship going sour ( unless I missed that too?), and who was more to blame.   

I would think that in order to come to that conclusion some particulars should be identified in what makes a man more to blame for a relationship going sour?    I took that allegation as a circular argument.  Sounds good, but what makes it true?  A soured relationship could have many reasons for going sour.  And it doesnt necessarily mean men are usually to blame.  Unless we know why?  The particulars matter. 

When I responded to your original post,  I did not even tie it to what you quoted from me, because I didnt make the comparison.  Relationships going sour?  And risk taking/consequences with locals?  Both can easily be discussed as separate topics.   

     

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 05:13:08 AM
To illustrate that women can be in the same predicament as men.    Local women can also have a relationship go sour on them, with their own men.  Are the women usually to blame for their relationships going sour with their own men?   Not really.   We wouldnt automatically assume that for women.   We would explore the particulars of the matter and then draw a conclusion.  We would assign who gets what percentage of blame.   

Same thing goes for gringo/foreigner females, who may have a relationship go sour on them, but with local men

If we can do that for women,  we should be able to do the same for men?  A relationship going sour, there can be percentages of blame shared.  If it applies.   Not all blame necessarily has to belong to only one party.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 06:01:52 AM
BTW what risks and/or consequences can ( not will ) local women be subject to in dealing with SOME male gringo/foreigners?   

I'll start the list :

1. Being left with a baby the gringo/foreigner man wont take care of.   
2. Having underage daughters or sons molested by a gringo/foreigner
3. Acquiring an STD from a gringo/foreigner
4. Being left in a dwelling the gringo/foreigner stops paying for.  Or stopping WU support.
5. Losing a good gringo/foreigner and ending up with a sorry gringo/foreigner as a replacement.
6. Marrying a gringo/foreigner, relocating to his country and ending up miserable with him and/or the arrangement.
7. Choosing an abusive gringo/foreigner.  Mental or physical abuse.
8. Getting involved with a gringo/foreigner they really cant relate to or communicate with effectively. 
9. Dealing with a gringo/foreigner that is reckless, leading to a greater potential of her suffering physical harm 
10. Fill in the blank____________
11. Local women are less likely to be seen as a valuable prospect by their own men for anything serious, after the women let gringos/foreign men have their way with them.
12. Local women are less likely to be taken seriously by their own men simply because of the baggage they bring to the table.  Too much responsibility to take on ( with kids by another man) , bringing a bad attitude, no desire to take care of a man, lost or never had any traditional upbringing etc.   

What can that lead to?  Those women usually only have the choice of being alone, or pursuing gringo/foreigner men ( or local men ) that would put up with them.   The ones that may only desire them on a temporary basis, with no long term interest.   

13. Local women becoming a druggie and/or alcoholic due to their association with a gringo/foreigner druggie and/or alcoholic.  A lifestyle that may have been avoided if they never allowed it to happen.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 19, 2023, 07:15:12 AM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

They don’t know the whole story, all they now is what the girl told them during there gossiping session..

Story:
Had one over (August trip).who received a phone call, she went outside to answer the call, when she came back inside she was crying.

My first thought was oh boy here we go, here comes the bullshit.

I never asked what’s wrong, instead I said let me call you a taxi and I will see you when you feel better.

Her - She asked me, you don’t want to know what’s wrong.
Me - No, it’s not my business.
Her - Let me tell you.

I did not want to hear it, she’s not my friend and I’m not a shoulder for her to cry on, we are business partners (for 1 & 2 hours) and sex is our business.

I do not listen to women problems or gossip with them here at home, so I’m damn sure not listening or gossiping with Dominican women..... That shit is not cool.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 07:35:07 AM
Update on Haitian Chica :

Texted me this morning about an hour ago to say good morning.  These chicks dont get mad. Not even when you cut them off, or when you avoid them wasting your time.  Many will accept being cut off.  But dig.  I dont go round acting like I taught them a lesson.  Like I said before.  My interest in cutting them off, is just to avoid them wasting my time. 

Whatever they do or continue to do, I could care less.  I may be doing them a favor.   And another thing.  Just because a guy aborts or cancels a date/meet, that dont mean he has to go get a replacement chick.  That may be what a guy on vacation is more likely to do,  but not everybody feels the need to do that.   

A guy can get a replacement, or he can find something else that he enjoys doing.  Including fellow shipping with friends or enjoying the comforts of being home.   In most cases, that pussy that you cancel may still be available when you least expect.   And when it is, dont be surprised if ya'll end up f--king like rabbits.

One thing I can say is that I rarely see the expats operate in a sprit of abundance, I don't know that many Sosua expats but most of the expats act like thiristy dub dubs on their first trip.

Meaning they literally don't do much else but watch pussy, talk about pussy and f--k pussy.

I'll admit when I first came down I was on a tear at first but then I calmed down shit felt like a job.

One of the reasons I left the Island is a lack of non mongering things to do and people to do them with, granted COVID put the clamps on shit but damn I never heard dudes seriously consider anything else.

That being said having access to the beach is a cheat code because going to the beach is several activities in one. It's also why I am considering moving back Cartegena is more expensive less brotherhood, more scopamine, and more aggressive hustlers.
It's true. Enough expats here in Sosua, especially those who have only 5yrs and less living in here are thirst hungry vampires.   Their primary interest for living in the DR is mainly about the women. Enough of them are living here, trying to make up for their frustration from being in failed marriages back where they came from.

I personally knew several cats over the years who were acquaintances of mine.   Some would stay in touch. Ask for updates.  Advise me on when they were coming down.  They would try to sell me on the idea that they were going to be connecting when they got here.  But once they touch down, you may not see them except by accident or if they need something.   

Thing is, I have learned to expect that type of behavior from enough men.   I was never as bad as what I see in some men today.   You know simping is at an all time high when you see how some men are always defending women, especially prostitutes.  Referring to them like they are helpless poor children.    And if that isnt bad enough, the f--king narcissism coming from some cats.  Bragging about what they pay or dont pay.

Me too, There's some dudes that you never hear from until they want you to come babysit them when the chicas are too tired of them or they run out of money temporarily.

There's guys that text me pictures of women they just met like going on a date or smashing a chica is some great accomplishment. Some dudes drink heavily night after night and they wonder why non alcoholics shy away from them.

There's dudes who wonder why they can't get a girlfriend when all they want to do is sit in the house and  drink and f--k there's nothing else going on with them not even interesting conversations It's all about f--king, Drinking and american sports. They seem amazed that chicas aren't interested in that.

Some dudes expat to live out some Leaving Las Vegas fantasy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMlYWZgCIgo
Leaving Las Vegas is a 1995 American drama film written and directed by Mike Figgis, and based on the semi-autobiographical 1990 novel of the same name by John O'Brien. Nicolas Cage stars as a suicidal alcoholic in Los Angeles who, having lost his family and been recently fired, has decided to move to Las Vegas and drink himself to death. He loads a supply of liquor and beer into his BMW and gets drunk as he drives from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. Once there, he develops a romantic relationship with a sex worker played by Elisabeth Shue and the film shifts to include her narrative perspective.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaving_Las_Vegas
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 08:00:28 AM
Blame usual goes to the gringo because it’s it’s 100 women, the gringo is the one who picked from the selection. Kind of like driving a car that transmission failed. Others could have driven all day and night, but around 120k and up, if no maintenance was done, failure eventually can happen even if it’s your first time driving. The person should have check the odometer, Maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, their own, a rental or another’s and just drives without thinking about negative consequences.

Same with a chica, my boy might have a great time and my experience is shit. Maybe he kisses her, panders to her, has a different size member so accommodating myself for sex is a lot different, etc… and it doesn’t have to be money related. You can see some chicas ain’t shit on their face, yet a phat ass will make some disregard it.

There was a chica me and buddy was trying to talk down for another. Dude was so thirsty he chimes in repeatedly and while we were working her down to 50-60$ for a ST he was blurting out 70-90$ is fine let’s wrap up the negotiations despite it being less than 5 minutes and we were just making sure there was clarity in what was agreed upon. However due to his frequent interjections and blatant thirst, I assumed she’d try to rip buddy off. Couldn’t be me, but in his case even if he made a neutral choice, it was skewing to negative because she seen he was eager and quick to part with money

I was in Medellin and because a dude was on the fence about a chick I couldn't prenegoitate the terms because he wanted to Go with the flow My chick was super firty so I f--ked her Homie just talked to his chick and she charged him the same amount. But dude didn't set the parameters. I wanted to say some and hang is once price and if we f--k it's a different price .  But dudes really be seeking validation from women.

For example he wanted to listen to Old school West Coast Hip Hop they knew who Snoop Dogg was but they were into Trance music again we are old and they are young and while they're young they want to have some fun.  My tastes run to Old school Reggae. I  only invited the girls over because I thought he wanted to smash. Not working off the same sheet of music never works If a dude is that thirsty he can negotiate for themselves.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 08:23:38 AM
Blame usual goes to the gringo because it’s it’s 100 women, the gringo is the one who picked from the selection. Kind of like driving a car that transmission failed. Others could have driven all day and night, but around 120k and up, if no maintenance was done, failure eventually can happen even if it’s your first time driving. The person should have check the odometer, Maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, their own, a rental or another’s and just drives without thinking about negative consequences.

Same with a chica, my boy might have a great time and my experience is shit. Maybe he kisses her, panders to her, has a different size member so accommodating myself for sex is a lot different, etc… and it doesn’t have to be money related. You can see some chicas ain’t shit on their face, yet a phat ass will make some disregard it.

There was a chica me and buddy was trying to talk down for another. Dude was so thirsty he chimes in repeatedly and while we were working her down to 50-60$ for a ST he was blurting out 70-90$ is fine let’s wrap up the negotiations despite it being less than 5 minutes and we were just making sure there was clarity in what was agreed upon. However due to his frequent interjections and blatant thirst, I assumed she’d try to rip buddy off. Couldn’t be me, but in his case even if he made a neutral choice, it was skewing to negative because she seen he was eager and quick to part with money
I can appreciate your analogy.  If I am understanding correctly you have provided a scenario that illustrates a truism that does apply to enough men.  And yet I dont see that scenario as something women are exempt from having blame for being negligent of. 

Take 100 DR/Haitian women.  Almost all of them may share the same story.   Most will have a child or children by one man or multiple men who have left them high and dry.   Soo....the Dr/Haitian chick left with child or children by men not taking care of their responsibility, are the ones those women picked from a selection.   In enough cases a man did not leave them. 

They wanted a baby, and didnt care if a man was there or not.  The DR families role is to support the dysfunction in the family, culture and community. 
Men and women are both supported in their f--kery.   Mothers, Aunts grandmothers , sisters all eagerly and routinely help take care of the children made from the irresponsibility of both men and women.  When they both consort with gringos,  the gringo is designated as the cleanup man for their shortcomings.     

As the scenario goes.....the women should have checked the odometer, maintainence records and compared other options… however most people just jump in a car, and just drive without thinking about negative consequences. 

So by the time a local woman gets with a gringo, they have made themselves out to be victims.  Taking no responsibility in how they ended up as another woman who failed to choose a decent man to father their children.  Compounding the problem by choosing the gringo,  mainly because he can provide resources, not necessarily because of him having good character.   

In other words, who can I get to save me from all of the f--ked up decisions Ive made with the men that only wanted to hit it?   I know.  When I encounter a gringo, I will tell him that I dont like the men from my culture.  That most of them are malo.  Never mind that they are sporting one to 6 kids by the men they supposedly hate.   If you hated those men, then why the f--k do you keep having children by them?

And why havent all women in the same boat shared that hate and shut that shit down?  Because it's all a lie.  They love having children.   Responsibility is not even in their vocabulary. 

And gringo men?   They eat that shit up.  Yup, she's a victim alright.  What she needs is a man like me that knows how to treat a "good" woman.  She gets the good woman title. for no reason other than because she has a vagina, attractive and f--kable. 

My conclusion?  Women are no better than men when it comes to being negligent in how they operate, and who they consort with.  It's just a matter of knowing and comparing scenarios that fit each perspective accordingly.

I really beleive that Prostitution especially freelance outside of brothels is really an excuse for women to f--k a lot of Men. I know a chick who likes "pretty boys" who don't take her seriously. I told her that if she doesn't get married  instead of f--king one dude that she rather not f--k she's gonna f--k several dudes that she'd rather not f--k.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 08:27:16 AM
 

Him losing a bunch of shit that she never paid for?  Men having to pay court settlements in order to get rid of a chick.  Who steals the most towards the other?   Women towards men?  Or Men towards women?   Safe robbing.  Jewelry robbing.  Stealing money from his pants pocket while hes in the shower.  Personal belongings, moving her family or other boyfriend in a place the gringo provides for.   etc.   
 

Hey Murano, this is a question that I have had for years.  How do you get a Dominican family out of your house after you break up with the woman?   Let's say she has been living with you for 2 years and you decide that you want out of the relationship.  How do you get Her/ Family out of your house?  Do you have to go to Court and grant them 30 days to vacate?   Can you have a couple of "friends" come over and help them pack their shit and get out?  How does it work?
I have no specific knowledge or experience of how that can be accomplished.   All I recall is hearing stories of men taking L's, and having to cut their losses.   And me?  I will use those stories to reinforce that I will never purposely put myself in that type of situation EVER.   

It's bad enough consorting with p4p chicks and allowing them in your place.   For a session, or have them hanging out in your place.   A chick can potentially get hurt in your company.  Like slipping in the shower.  Get hurt in a vehicle you are driving ( or pasola ), get sick from food or drink in your company.   Maybe from food/drink you provided.   

NEVER Let a chick live with you. I can't see a scenario where if the woman wants to stay that she will be made to leave.

The best way to handle this is to literally walk away from the country just leave. If you come back you might find that you were sued and you have to pay the judgement before entering the country.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on January 19, 2023, 09:47:35 AM
   
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NEVER Let a chick live with you. I can't see a scenario where if the woman wants to stay that she will be made to leave.

The best way to handle this is to literally walk away from the country just leave. If you come back you might find that you were sued and you have to pay the judgement before entering the country.
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I don't understand the thought process "Leave a home that you paid for?" Being sued for what?  Demanding that a female leave your home opens you to a lawsuit? This is baffling to me!  There has to be some sort of process to end a relationship and send her back to where she came from without having to hand over a large sum of money to accomplish it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 10:35:19 AM

There's guys that text me pictures of women they just met like going on a date or smashing a chica is some great accomplishment. Some dudes drink heavily night after night and they wonder why non alcoholics shy away from them.
There is one particular Sosua expat dude that I see on the regular.  This dude has to be in his late fifties or early sixties.   He drives a nice Jeep 4x4 truck.  This dude will zip around town with the windows down, and his tailgate wide open,  blasting music as if he was a f--king Dominican teenager.   

Circling around the block several times,  so people can hear his music blaring.   Occasionally he'll have a dude riding shotgun,  and they're both just cruising around the strip, up Dr Rosen, drive past Bailee's, back to Pedro C, then Pedro C past Kings , as far as he chooses to go,  then up towards the highway,  make a right by the Texaco,  go down the block towards Merengue,  make right on Pedro again, and repeat. 

What ever happened to being discreet?  In all fairness though, that driving pattern,  I have done that as well.  Except Im not trying to destroy the peace and attract attention, with my music blaring.  Thats a major difference in how some cats roll.   

We also have expat cats that have the loudest motorcycles you ever want to hear.   And it seems as if they get off on letting people hear all of that noise that them bikes make.  Again, whatever happened to trying to live under the radar?   

One Sosua expat guy comes to mind.  This dude is over 70 ( maybe 72 by now ) and this guy loves whipping out his phone to show guys the women he's f--ked, or in the act of f--king.   And he doesnt care about anyone seeing him in the video ( with his dick swinging ).   Cats like that,  I dont even want to be around them and consider them an embarrassment.   This is a cat I feel should be setting an example of how a grown man should conduct himself.   Especially while being an expat. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 11:03:05 AM
Bravo1818 :

"I don't understand the thought process "Leave a home that you paid for?" Being sued for what?  Demanding that a female leave your home opens you to a lawsuit? This is baffling to me!  There has to be some sort of process to end a relationship and send her back to where she came from without having to hand over a large sum of money to accomplish it."

Laws and customs may be in place which protects the local in domestic and civil matters, especially matters that involve cohabitation involving gringos.   If the local women didnt have that leverage,  gringos could easily kick unwanted guests and exes out.   And this wouldnt be an issue.   But apparently it must not be that simple.  Locals may have certain rights, most gringos are not aware of.  Until they have a problem. 

One of the most common problems I believe happens in domestic/civil matters, is women lying to whoever has jurisdiction in the matter.   Like if a gringo was trying to evict a chick,  the chick can lie and say the gringo was abusive to her.  So she moved her family in to protect her and her child(ren), in case he came back.       

She can lie and say everything that was bought was already hers, or a gift.  She can bring up that she has evidence of him cheating,having a GF or wife somewhere.    Hypothetically, a judge could rule in her favor just because an allegation of abuse has been declared.   They might give the gringo plaintiff a choice of dropping his claims, leaving everything to the judges' discretion, or pursuing the abuse allegation, risking jail or a hefty judgement.     

My guess is,  a chick will do whatever is necessary to prevail if there is a dispute.  Which may mean a lot of lying, with a lot of support and sympathy coming from her friends, family , her lawyer advising her on how to get as much as she can, maybe even the judge etc.     

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: El_lobo00 on January 19, 2023, 11:09:14 AM
   

NEVER Let a chick live with you. I can't see a scenario where if the woman wants to stay that she will be made to leave.

The best way to handle this is to literally walk away from the country just leave. If you come back you might find that you were sued and you have to pay the judgement before entering the country.
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I don't understand the thought process "Leave a home that you paid for?" Being sued for what?  Demanding that a female leave your home opens you to a lawsuit? This is baffling to me!  There has to be some sort of process to end a relationship and send her back to where she came from without having to hand over a large sum of money to accomplish it.
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We have to remember we’re in a foreign country with different sets of laws than us. What might seem illogical and unreasonable to us is perfectly normal elsewhere.

 IMO, cohabitation with anyone other than a spouse or the mother of your kid(s) is playing with fire. Dont do it!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: El_lobo00 on January 19, 2023, 11:25:25 AM

One of the most common problems I believe happens in domestic/civil matters, is women lying to whoever has jurisdiction in the matter.   Like if a gringo was trying to evict a chick,  the chick can lie and say the gringo was abusive to her.  So she moved her family in to protect her and her child(ren), in case he came back.       

She can lie and say everything that was bought was already hers, or a gift. She can bring up that she has evidence of him cheating,having a GF or wife somewhere.    Hypothetically, a judge could rule in her favor just because an allegation of abuse has been declared.   They might give the gringo plaintiff a choice of dropping his claims, leaving everything to the judges' discretion, or pursuing the abuse allegation, risking jail or a hefty judgement.     

I know an who was in a relationship with a dominicana and cohabitated with her for a short time until things went south. Once the relationship dissolved, he attempted to kick her out unsuccessfully. They ended up at the fiscalía and she tried to make a claim on the furniture and other items he purchased both locally and from the United States. Luckily he kept all of his receipts, literally. Otherwise he would have lost everything.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 11:26:37 AM
IMO, cohabitation with anyone other than a spouse or the mother of your kid(s) is playing with fire. Dont do it!
I 2nd that.   However, I think a foreigner is still playing with fire even if he's married to a local or dealing with the mother of his kids.   Legally, he may have no leverage either way, in a foreign country.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Mike Murray on January 19, 2023, 11:33:27 AM

There's guys that text me pictures of women they just met like going on a date or smashing a chica is some great accomplishment. Some dudes drink heavily night after night and they wonder why non alcoholics shy away from them.
There is one particular Sosua expat dude that I see on the regular.  This dude has to be in his late fifties or early sixties.   He drives a nice Jeep 4x4 truck.  This dude will zip around town with the windows down, and his tailgate wide open,  blasting music as if he was a f--king Dominican teenager.   

Circling around the block several times,  so people can hear his music blaring.   Occasionally he'll have a dude riding shotgun,  and they're both just cruising around the strip, up Dr Rosen, drive past Bailee's, back to Pedro C, then Pedro C past Kings , as far as he chooses to go,  then up towards the highway,  make a right by the Texaco,  go down the block towards Merengue,  make right on Pedro again, and repeat. 

What ever happened to being discreet?  In all fairness though, that driving pattern,  I have done that as well.  Except Im not trying to destroy the peace and attract attention, with my music blaring.  Thats a major difference in how some cats roll.   

We also have expat cats that have the loudest motorcycles you ever want to hear.   And it seems as if they get off on letting people hear all of that noise that them bikes make.  Again, whatever happened to trying to live under the radar?   

One Sosua expat guy comes to mind.  This dude is over 70 ( maybe 72 by now ) and this guy loves whipping out his phone to show guys the women he's f--ked, or in the act of f--king.   And he doesnt care about anyone seeing him in the video ( with his dick swinging ).   Cats like that,  I dont even want to be around them and consider them an embarrassment.   This is a cat I feel should be setting an example of how a grown man should conduct himself.   Especially while being an expat.

LOL..I thought the dude in the 4x4 was a visitor in a rental
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 11:35:19 AM
   

NEVER Let a chick live with you. I can't see a scenario where if the woman wants to stay that she will be made to leave.

The best way to handle this is to literally walk away from the country just leave. If you come back you might find that you were sued and you have to pay the judgement before entering the country.
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I don't understand the thought process "Leave a home that you paid for?" Being sued for what?  Demanding that a female leave your home opens you to a lawsuit? This is baffling to me!  There has to be some sort of process to end a relationship and send her back to where she came from without having to hand over a large sum of money to accomplish it.
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You think you have the same property rights as you do in america? Even in the states there's an eviction process.

I'm not dissing you but you're asking on a whore board about a legal issue. If you think you can evict them get a lawyer and go through the process.

To Me Taylor Made Dreams said a lot of half truths but the one thing I think he was honest about is him not being able to get justice when someone stole from him.

He said Dominicans stick together and I beleive that he's right.

@Murano2010 said that despite all his years on the Island he doesn't have any true Dominican male friends and doesn't think that a gringo could have an actual friendship with Dominican.

I also know that almost every interaction with a Dominican and a Gringo always involves a propina.

Certainly your girl thinks that she can stay in your place as long as she wants and the idea of. trying to get some goon to intimidate her to leave is frankly insane. The last thing a Gringo wants is to get invovled in anyway with the criminal element.

If were me I'd chalk it up as a cautionary tale many a simp has put down roots without being in country and being suprised when they can't just change their minds.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 11:40:59 AM

There's guys that text me pictures of women they just met like going on a date or smashing a chica is some great accomplishment. Some dudes drink heavily night after night and they wonder why non alcoholics shy away from them.
There is one particular Sosua expat dude that I see on the regular.  This dude has to be in his late fifties or early sixties.   He drives a nice Jeep 4x4 truck.  This dude will zip around town with the windows down, and his tailgate wide open,  blasting music as if he was a f--king Dominican teenager.   

Circling around the block several times,  so people can hear his music blaring.   Occasionally he'll have a dude riding shotgun,  and they're both just cruising around the strip, up Dr Rosen, drive past Bailee's, back to Pedro C, then Pedro C past Kings , as far as he chooses to go,  then up towards the highway,  make a right by the Texaco,  go down the block towards Merengue,  make right on Pedro again, and repeat. 

What ever happened to being discreet?  In all fairness though, that driving pattern,  I have done that as well.  Except Im not trying to destroy the peace and attract attention, with my music blaring.  Thats a major difference in how some cats roll.   

We also have expat cats that have the loudest motorcycles you ever want to hear.   And it seems as if they get off on letting people hear all of that noise that them bikes make.  Again, whatever happened to trying to live under the radar?   

One Sosua expat guy comes to mind.  This dude is over 70 ( maybe 72 by now ) and this guy loves whipping out his phone to show guys the women he's f--ked, or in the act of f--king.   And he doesnt care about anyone seeing him in the video ( with his dick swinging ).   Cats like that,  I dont even want to be around them and consider them an embarrassment.   This is a cat I feel should be setting an example of how a grown man should conduct himself.   Especially while being an expat.

Dudes really be down there having their second childhood.


That's the one thing I never understand first of all I don't want to see your junk and secondly I don't understand the concept of buying terrabytes of cloud space to store a photo of some whore that you met once 15 years ago.

Again dudes act like they won a prize because they f--ked a girl that everyone else has had. Dude put too much emphasis on women and sex. Yes there's a biological need to spread your seed widly as a Man but that's just it.  She's not your friend, she doesn't love you (and you don't love her either)  It's Just Sex, nothing more and nothing less.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 19, 2023, 11:43:30 AM

One of the most common problems I believe happens in domestic/civil matters, is women lying to whoever has jurisdiction in the matter.   Like if a gringo was trying to evict a chick,  the chick can lie and say the gringo was abusive to her.  So she moved her family in to protect her and her child(ren), in case he came back.       

She can lie and say everything that was bought was already hers, or a gift. She can bring up that she has evidence of him cheating,having a GF or wife somewhere.    Hypothetically, a judge could rule in her favor just because an allegation of abuse has been declared.   They might give the gringo plaintiff a choice of dropping his claims, leaving everything to the judges' discretion, or pursuing the abuse allegation, risking jail or a hefty judgement.     

I know an who was in a relationship with a dominicana and cohabitated with her for a short time until things went south. Once the relationship dissolved, he attempted to kick her out unsuccessfully. They ended up at the fiscalía and she tried to make a claim on the furniture and other items he purchased both locally and from the United States. Luckily he kept all of his receipts, literally. Otherwise he would have lost everything.

He was lucky. If she said that he abused her it might have went the other way.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 11:57:56 AM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

This is a problem in many male dominated circles.  It's prevalent here on this site.  Also a common occurrence, is how men that expose female f--kery are easily accused of something negative mostly by other men.  You are not allowed to discuss female f--kery, at least not without consequences.   Like scorn and ridicule from certain men.   

You can be regarded as misogynist.  There may be claims that you are a man who is personally scorned.  And the classics?  You are over thinking the issue.  You need to relax.  Stop whining.  You need to concentrate on just pussy.  It's not that serious.  A slew of shaming language can come from men towards other men.   Simply because some men cannot stand to see the characters of women being exposed or allegedly attacked, or simply discussed. 

In other words women have built in exemptions applied to them with the help of certain men.  Whatever it is, it's usually the mans fault.  Especially because she is poor or a 3rd world female.

She is exempt from blame or accountability, because the mans circumstances is used to imply or infer that he is more superior than she is, and should be able to handle some meek , wronged misunderstood female.    He can never be a victim of female f--kery because he is held to a higher standard than the female.  The female on the other hand, can always be considered a victim and without anyone challenging that narrative.  It's universally accepted,  except in cases where some shit just cant be defended or denied.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 19, 2023, 12:07:24 PM
"Dudes really be down their having their second childhood."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKBUJ8l-8yw



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on January 19, 2023, 12:11:55 PM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

This is a problem in many male dominated circles.  It's prevalent here on this site.  Also a common occurrence, is how men that expose female f--kery are easily accused of something negative mostly by other men.  You are not allowed to discuss female f--kery, at least not without consequences.   Like scorn and ridicule from certain men.   

You can be regarded as misogynist.  There may be claims that you are a man who is personally scorned.  And the classics?  You are over thinking the issue.  You need to relax.  Stop whining.  You need to concentrate on just pussy.  It's not that serious.  A slew of shaming language can come from men towards other men.   Simply because some men cannot stand to see the characters of women being exposed or allegedly attacked, or simply discussed. 

In other words women have built in exemptions applied to them with the help of certain men.  Whatever it is, it's usually the mans fault.  Especially because she is poor or a 3rd world female.

She is exempt from blame or accountability, because the mans circumstances is used to imply or infer that he is more superior than she is, and should be able to handle some meek , wronged misunderstood female.    He can never be a victim of female f--kery because he is held to a hire standard than the female.  The female on the other hand, can always be considered a victim and without anyone challenging that narrative.  It's universally accepted,  except in cases where some shit just cant be defended or denied.

Most of the men that attack other men without question in defense of women’s f--kery, are virtue signaling, cuckolded pussies that were primarily raised solely by women within their family households, so they don’t know any better and/or know anything else. Smh.



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 19, 2023, 12:39:18 PM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

This is a problem in many male dominated circles.  It's prevalent here on this site.  Also a common occurrence, is how men that expose female f--kery are easily accused of something negative mostly by other men.  You are not allowed to discuss female f--kery, at least not without consequences.   Like scorn and ridicule from certain men.   

You can be regarded as misogynist.  There may be claims that you are a man who is personally scorned.  And the classics?  You are over thinking the issue.  You need to relax.  Stop whining.  You need to concentrate on just pussy.  It's not that serious.  A slew of shaming language can come from men towards other men.   Simply because some men cannot stand to see the characters of women being exposed or allegedly attacked, or simply discussed. 

In other words women have built in exemptions applied to them with the help of certain men.  Whatever it is, it's usually the mans fault.  Especially because she is poor or a 3rd world female.

She is exempt from blame or accountability, because the mans circumstances is used to imply or infer that he is more superior than she is, and should be able to handle some meek , wronged misunderstood female.    He can never be a victim of female f--kery because he is held to a hire standard than the female.  The female on the other hand, can always be considered a victim and without anyone challenging that narrative.  It's universally accepted,  except in cases where some shit just cant be defended or denied.

Most of the men that attack other men without question in defense of women’s f--kery, are virtue signaling, cuckolded pussies that were primarily raised solely by women within their family households, so they don’t know any better and/or know anything else. Smh.

Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 01:02:08 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 19, 2023, 01:10:09 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
My bad @Murano,
My part of hijacking wasn’t done on purpose.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 01:50:53 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
My bad @Murano,
My part of hijacking wasn’t done on purpose.
I definitely wasnt complaining or felt you did something wrong.  I was just thinking that your topic warrants it's own thread, and you deserve the chance of putting it together so we can contribute to it. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 04:03:02 PM
Morrano, women every where expect a man to provide for them. Weather their a wife or hoe, it's  the same, you give them money! The fact that in the DR. trading sex for things a women may need is not unusual, it does change the dynamic of a long distance relationship. If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas.
Thats interesting.  I had no idea that you knew that.  I believe most guys here already know that.   
Again with the condescending remarks!!! WTF, Are you that insecure man!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 04:15:51 PM
I think the issue I was addressing really, is how does a guy determine that gringos are usually to blame for why a relationship goes sour?   Now I realize that was strictly from someones own experience, and it was acknowledged.  But that perspective does not mean overall , nor should it be suggested , that gringos are usually to blame.  It's not intentionally said, but it seems presupposed.  In other words an attempt to see men as mostly the blame for most relationships going sour.  But playing it safe by saying, only from their experience.

So what happens when others have a different experience where women have been mostly to blame for relationships going sour?   

Point being, Both men and women can be to blame without it being more coming from one gender over the other.

For every situation where a gringo may be to blame for a relationship going sour,  Im sure anybody can match it with just as many scenarios where a woman was at blame.   And the reason why I am addressing this,  is because I suspect statements leaning towards blaming men, there is an undercurrent of trying to  designate women as victims, and men as being more prone to being perpetrators of harm to women.   

Never acknowledging that the same level of blame can apply to women towards men.     And this doesnt even have to be about a relationship.   It can be a lot of ways women are to blame for wronging men.
In the p4p game, how often do we hear stories of women bamboozling men out of their money? 

Him losing a bunch of shit that she never paid for?  Men having to pay court settlements in order to get rid of a chick.  Who steals the most towards the other?   Women towards men?  Or Men towards women?   Safe robbing.  Jewelry robbing.  Stealing money from his pants pocket while hes in the shower.  Personal belongings, moving her family or other boyfriend in a place the gringo provides for.   etc.   

Most men arent doing that shit to women.   The most men may be accused of with DR women, is cheating on a woman.   Most gringos know not to put their hands on a woman, especially in the DR.   So how bad could any blame be coming from a man, compared to what many women have done or are capable of doing to a man?
Now you 'PRESUPPOSE" another mans intentions. You try to filter what other people say through your myopic perspective of the world!! YOU CAN'T SEE OTHER POINTS OF VIEW.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 04:41:15 PM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

This is a problem in many male dominated circles.  It's prevalent here on this site.  Also a common occurrence, is how men that expose female f--kery are easily accused of something negative mostly by other men.  You are not allowed to discuss female f--kery, at least not without consequences.   Like scorn and ridicule from certain men.   

You can be regarded as misogynist.  There may be claims that you are a man who is personally scorned.  And the classics?  You are over thinking the issue.  You need to relax.  Stop whining.  You need to concentrate on just pussy.  It's not that serious.  A slew of shaming language can come from men towards other men.   Simply because some men cannot stand to see the characters of women being exposed or allegedly attacked, or simply discussed. 

In other words women have built in exemptions applied to them with the help of certain men.  Whatever it is, it's usually the mans fault.  Especially because she is poor or a 3rd world female.

She is exempt from blame or accountability, because the mans circumstances is used to imply or infer that he is more superior than she is, and should be able to handle some meek , wronged misunderstood female.    He can never be a victim of female f--kery because he is held to a higher standard than the female.  The female on the other hand, can always be considered a victim and without anyone challenging that narrative.  It's universally accepted,  except in cases where some shit just cant be defended or denied.
It is not about men being held to a higher standard, it's about f**k the GRINGO. SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS. If you want to wife up and support a chica, what follows is on your dumb ass. I wife up some times, but never sign a lease agreement, pay by the month and move on when you want. Leave her stuff in garbage bags at the door.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 04:55:25 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
WOW now I know you are nuts. WTF do you know about raising a 17yr. old grandson!! Your arrogance knows no bounds.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 19, 2023, 05:53:00 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
WOW now I know you are nuts. WTF do you know about raising a 17yr. old grandson!! Your arrogance knows no bounds.


Not sure but was this comment directed at me, if so I’ll have you know that my grandson has been under my roof since he was 5.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 06:23:33 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
WOW now I know you are nuts. WTF do you know about raising a 17yr. old grandson!! Your arrogance knows no bounds.


Not sure but was this comment directed at me, if so I’ll have you know that my grandson has been under my roof since he was 5.
No man, no dis to you. Morano comes on like he's some prophet or some shit. Like he knows your world.Tells you if you don't think like him, your wrong.Got a 16yr. grandson.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 19, 2023, 06:31:00 PM
No problem… Congrats on the 16 year old
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 07:12:07 PM
Morrano, women every where expect a man to provide for them. Weather their a wife or hoe, it's  the same, you give them money! The fact that in the DR. trading sex for things a women may need is not unusual, it does change the dynamic of a long distance relationship. If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas.
Thats interesting.  I had no idea that you knew that.  I believe most guys here already know that.   
Again with the condescending remarks!!! WTF, Are you that insecure man!!!!
Thats not condescending, it's a fact.  Just like what you said was a fact, although I did not need  you telling me that like you were teaching me something.  "If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas."  Maybe you should stop addressing me.  And just make your point.   

See dude, I know how to write.  If I were to make your point,  I would say If a guy cant deal with an open relationship blah blah blah.  That is the same message with a better delivery.  And dont get mad because I offered a suggestion.  Take it in good faith.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 07:31:44 PM
I think the issue I was addressing really, is how does a guy determine that gringos are usually to blame for why a relationship goes sour?   Now I realize that was strictly from someones own experience, and it was acknowledged.  But that perspective does not mean overall , nor should it be suggested , that gringos are usually to blame.  It's not intentionally said, but it seems presupposed.  In other words an attempt to see men as mostly the blame for most relationships going sour.  But playing it safe by saying, only from their experience.

So what happens when others have a different experience where women have been mostly to blame for relationships going sour?   

Point being, Both men and women can be to blame without it being more coming from one gender over the other.

For every situation where a gringo may be to blame for a relationship going sour,  Im sure anybody can match it with just as many scenarios where a woman was at blame.   And the reason why I am addressing this,  is because I suspect statements leaning towards blaming men, there is an undercurrent of trying to  designate women as victims, and men as being more prone to being perpetrators of harm to women.   

Never acknowledging that the same level of blame can apply to women towards men.     And this doesnt even have to be about a relationship.   It can be a lot of ways women are to blame for wronging men.
In the p4p game, how often do we hear stories of women bamboozling men out of their money? 

Him losing a bunch of shit that she never paid for?  Men having to pay court settlements in order to get rid of a chick.  Who steals the most towards the other?   Women towards men?  Or Men towards women?   Safe robbing.  Jewelry robbing.  Stealing money from his pants pocket while hes in the shower.  Personal belongings, moving her family or other boyfriend in a place the gringo provides for.   etc.   

Most men arent doing that shit to women.   The most men may be accused of with DR women, is cheating on a woman.   Most gringos know not to put their hands on a woman, especially in the DR.   So how bad could any blame be coming from a man, compared to what many women have done or are capable of doing to a man?
Now you 'PRESUPPOSE" another mans intentions. You try to filter what other people say through your myopic perspective of the world!! YOU CAN'T SEE OTHER POINTS OF VIEW.
Well think about it.  Right now you are filtering what I said through your own lens and perspective.  You are guilty of doing what you are complaining about.  Maybe you misunderstood my focus.   But heres your added problem.  You can complain all you want.  But can you prove what anybody says has no merit or it doesnt exist somewhere?   

If you cant then you dont have a leg to stand on, except to complain and make ad hominem retorts.    Can you do better than that? Will you do better than that? 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 07:41:23 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
WOW now I know you are nuts. WTF do you know about raising a 17yr. old grandson!! Your arrogance knows no bounds.
You are f--king losing it.  Are you drunk or high?  At what point did anybody address or make statements about a 17yr old?   All I did is suggest Nickmirr create a topic. 

This was his theme :    Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.


What the f--k does that have to do with a 17 year old specifically?   He only mentioned that he wanted his GS to know whats wrong with it.  And to possibly have some information from other men to work with. 

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 07:46:53 PM
Gawd damnit @PTC…. BINGO..!!!!
I thought the same but did not say it..

Now gentlemen let’s discuss there other crime.
The art of pillow talking, Gossiping, Holding conversations with girls about other men.

I have my 17 year old grandson living with me, and this is something I want him to understand that men should never do.

There’s rules, guidelines and codes that men should never break when dealing with women and especially pay to play women.
I say that is a topic that deserves it's own thread.  Please consider starting a new thread.  There,  I will contribute.  Especially since I contributed to hijacking my own thread.  Even though, I think it was worth it.
WOW now I know you are nuts. WTF do you know about raising a 17yr. old grandson!! Your arrogance knows no bounds.


Not sure but was this comment directed at me, if so I’ll have you know that my grandson has been under my roof since he was 5.
No man, no dis to you. Morano comes on like he's some prophet or some shit. Like he knows your world.Tells you if you don't think like him, your wrong.Got a 16yr. grandson.
Your negative energy is a by product of your own issues creeping to the surface.   You are dealing with some imaginary character on your screen you gave life to.  But the problem we have here, we all are subject to each others reading comprehension.   Even in instances when a person cant read for shit because they are too busy reacting.  Instead of understanding.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 08:05:37 PM
Morrano, women every where expect a man to provide for them. Weather their a wife or hoe, it's  the same, you give them money! The fact that in the DR. trading sex for things a women may need is not unusual, it does change the dynamic of a long distance relationship. If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas.
Thats interesting.  I had no idea that you knew that.  I believe most guys here already know that.   
Again with the condescending remarks!!! WTF, Are you that insecure man!!!!
Thats not condescending, it's a fact.  Just like what you said was a fact, although I did not need  you telling me that like you were teaching me something.  "If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas."  Maybe you should stop addressing me.  And just make your point.   

See dude, I know how to write.  If I were to make your point,  I would say If a guy cant deal with an open relationship blah blah blah.  That is the same message with a better delivery.  And dont get mad because I offered a suggestion.  Take it in good faith.
MAN, There's no good "faith" in your so called suggestion. Your point was to belittle my point of view. My only hope is that people here will see how negative you are. You profess to be a font of wisdom, but dis anyone that dose not agree with you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 08:13:03 PM
Murano , I don't know what f**ked up your life to make you so negative. I just hope you get help.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 08:19:52 PM
Morrano, women every where expect a man to provide for them. Weather their a wife or hoe, it's  the same, you give them money! The fact that in the DR. trading sex for things a women may need is not unusual, it does change the dynamic of a long distance relationship. If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas.
Thats interesting.  I had no idea that you knew that.  I believe most guys here already know that.   
Again with the condescending remarks!!! WTF, Are you that insecure man!!!!
Thats not condescending, it's a fact.  Just like what you said was a fact, although I did not need  you telling me that like you were teaching me something.  "If you can't deal with an "open relationship" stick with ST chicas."  Maybe you should stop addressing me.  And just make your point.   

See dude, I know how to write.  If I were to make your point,  I would say If a guy cant deal with an open relationship blah blah blah.  That is the same message with a better delivery.  And dont get mad because I offered a suggestion.  Take it in good faith.
MAN, There's no good "faith" in your so called suggestion. Your point was to belittle my point of view. My only hope is that people here will see how negative you are. You profess to be a font of wisdom, but dis anyone that dose not agree with you.
First off, my handle was never Morano or Morono.  Youve been doing that shit for some time now.  And you are f--king complaining about being dissed?  You have the same problem as that other cat.  You dont pay attention to the level of disrespect that you dish.  You only realize it when some of it comes back at you.   Respect begets respect.   Clean up your victimization act.  You are NO victim here. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 08:22:47 PM
Murano , I don't know what f**ked up your life to make you so negative. I just hope you get help.
I dont know what f--ked up your life to make you so blind to your own folly. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
You profess to be a font of wisdom, but dis anyone that dose not agree with you.
I am going to address this right here.   What you said is a lie?  I allegedly dis "ANYONE" that does not agree with me?   Are you sure about that?  Here's the deal.  I dont agree with that lie you just told.  And as such, I have no problem exercising my prerogative in telling you that that is a lie.  Me telling you that you are wrong , does not represent me disagreeing with ANYONE.  My disagreement is with you, and you only.

Next, you need to understand something basic about a discussion board.  It's common practice that disagreements may occur from time to time.  A disagreement is NOT automatically dissing a person.  It's merely an acknowledgement that one does not agree with a POV.

Maybe your problem is you associate a disagreement with dissing a person, where I dont.  Now heres the meat here.  When I have a differing POV,  I have no problem giving reasons or some perspective to support  what I disagree with.   Other parties can offer their own perspective, even if they disagree.   That is the foundation of a constructive debate.  That all parties express their point POV.   

You on the other hand, do not debate or counter a POV that you disagree with.  Thats where you should be focusing your energy.   Giving reasons, examples, and a perspective that someone can consider entertaining.   Doing what you do is not offering supportive reasons showing you disagree with the content.   All it shows is that you disagree with the individual that you are angry or upset with.   Why cant you state your own disagreement on just the content if you think someone is wrong?   

Dont just bellyache complaining like a child.  You think you are this, you think you are that.  Believe me, I have seen this type of behavior for years.  Some muggs just cant put together a good counter argument without making it personal instead.  Thats because they dont have a counter argument.   There are a dozen or more cats on this board that I have a decent exchange with, until I get to individuals like you.   Most here are giving their POV, and nobody is complaining like you. 

You need to ask yourself this.  What happens when people dont agree?   They arent supposed to express where they disagree?   Were only allowed to agree?   
   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Newyorkny on January 19, 2023, 09:02:10 PM
This thread got confusing lol I'm not sure who's talking about who anymorr
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 09:32:30 PM
Murano, you are right, this board promotes conversation, advice, opinion, and disagreement some times. My problem is that your verbal diarrhea  tends to be demeaning, with very little redeeming qualities.You profess to be imparting wisdom in the guise self aggrandizement.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 09:41:04 PM
Murano , I don't know what f**ked up your life to make you so negative. I just hope you get help.
Now you know how to spell my handle, huh?   WTF happened to Morono, Morrano, Morano?   Like I said before.  You are no victim here.  You initiate slapping, you get slapped.  So dont complain.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 09:54:13 PM
Murano, you are right, this board promotes conversation, advice, opinion, and disagreement some times. My problem is that your verbal diarrhea  tends to be demeaning, with very little redeeming qualities.You profess to be imparting wisdom in the guise self aggrandizement.
So what does you misrepresenting my handle have to do with this?   I challenge you to prove your allegation of self aggrandizement?   As for your "verbal diarrhea", "tends to be demeaning", "very little redeeming qualities".   That can easily be summed up as exactly what you said. That is "YOUR PROBLEM"   

I only think in one head.  I dont think in yours.  Your problems, your sensitivities and intolerances are not my problem.  I dont live through your perception of how other people express themselves, and how you assimilate information emotionally.   All I know, is your tendency to be demeaning by misrepresenting my handle.  You deserve what you dish.  Like I said, you are no victim here.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 10:14:38 PM
Murano, your statement  shows more about your abnormal psychopathy. You turn any perceived negative comment back on the person that said it, regardless intent, you key in on only the few words that you feel  hurt you in some way.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 19, 2023, 10:55:28 PM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

They don’t know the whole story, all they now is what the girl told them during there gossiping session..

Story:
Had one over (August trip).who received a phone call, she went outside to answer the call, when she came back inside she was crying.

My first thought was oh boy here we go, here comes the bullshit.

I never asked what’s wrong, instead I said let me call you a taxi and I will see you when you feel better.

Her - She asked me, you don’t want to know what’s wrong.
Me - No, it’s not my business.
Her - Let me tell you.

I did not want to hear it, she’s not my friend and I’m not a shoulder for her to cry on, we are business partners (for 1 & 2 hours) and sex is our business.

I do not listen to women problems or gossip with them here at home, so I’m damn sure not listening or gossiping with Dominican women..... That shit is not cool.

Mannnn I had a chick tell me her uncle m*lested her and is now m*lesting her 8yr old daughter.

I went by her crib La Liberacion (behind La Union) to kick it....I told this BITCH I was omw - I get there she's not there. Her uncle opens the door and I see in the background her 8yr old...naked, walking from one bedroom to the other.

I wanted to choke the life outta this dude. The kid eventually came to the door behind him (dressed), so I told her to come with me to the store. I kept her out with me until the chick came home.

Of course I asked her 'how are you - are you ok'....she said she was good. She wasn't crying or anything...just acting like a normal happy kid after I bought her snacks and a soda.

She actually reached out to me for help. As much as I wanted to do something (he lived with her, her mom and the daughter), I was like 'you need to call the police'.

I refuse to get involved with any of the locals and their family problems.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 19, 2023, 10:56:59 PM
Murano, your statement  shows more about your abnormal psychopathy. You turn any perceived negative comment back on the person that said it, regardless intent, you key in on only the few words that you feel  hurt you in some way.
Says the pot calling the kettle.   Think about this.  If I turn a negative comment BACK on you based on something you did.  That means that you are the individual that initiated the negativity.  All I did is get to the point of not letting it slide anymore.  I expect women and children to complain about getting slapped after they initiated slapping.  Not grown men.   

In what world do you live in, where you can continuously disrespect someone , and then act like a victim, when someone dishes disrespect back to you?   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 19, 2023, 11:31:17 PM
Murano; my analytical observations from reading your statements is that you have a narcissist personality. There fore you will see anyone that disagrees with your point of view as the "enemy". Having a rational discussion is impossible.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 20, 2023, 01:41:23 AM
Murano; my analytical observations from reading your statements is that you have a narcissist personality. There fore you will see anyone that disagrees with your point of view as the "enemy". Having a rational discussion is impossible.
That is one thing I agree on.  It's definitely impossible having a rational discussion with an individual like yourself.   Were done here. This thread is going back to its original purpose.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on January 20, 2023, 06:58:07 AM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

They don’t know the whole story, all they now is what the girl told them during there gossiping session..

Story:
Had one over (August trip).who received a phone call, she went outside to answer the call, when she came back inside she was crying.

My first thought was oh boy here we go, here comes the bullshit.

I never asked what’s wrong, instead I said let me call you a taxi and I will see you when you feel better.

Her - She asked me, you don’t want to know what’s wrong.
Me - No, it’s not my business.
Her - Let me tell you.

I did not want to hear it, she’s not my friend and I’m not a shoulder for her to cry on, we are business partners (for 1 & 2 hours) and sex is our business.

I do not listen to women problems or gossip with them here at home, so I’m damn sure not listening or gossiping with Dominican women..... That shit is not cool.

Mannnn I had a chick tell me her uncle m*lested her and is now m*lesting her 8yr old daughter.

I went by her crib La Liberacion (behind La Union) to kick it....I told this BITCH I was omw - I get there she's not there. Her uncle opens the door and I see in the background her 8yr old...naked, walking from one bedroom to the other.

I wanted to choke the life outta this dude. The kid eventually came to the door behind him (dressed), so I told her to come with me to the store. I kept her out with me until the chick came home.

Of course I asked her 'how are you - are you ok'....she said she was good. She wasn't crying or anything...just acting like a normal happy kid after I bought her snacks and a soda.

She actually reached out to me for help. As much as I wanted to do something (he lived with her, her mom and the daughter), I was like 'you need to call the police'.

I refused to get involved with any of the locals and their family problems.
Yeah that sad stuff makes me really sad. Especially when the child is prepubescent, like what’s attractive about an 8 year old. The mental gymnastics behind that is outstanding. You not getting an 8 year old confused with an adult, at all.

Still not risking my life, or freedom behind some local crap. That’s too much attention and heat. All you could do was give the child a temporary relief from the abuse, however you yourself did the right thing to not get involved. She has to call the police herself, and hopefully not try to mention you
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 20, 2023, 11:22:23 AM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

They don’t know the whole story, all they now is what the girl told them during there gossiping session..

Story:
Had one over (August trip).who received a phone call, she went outside to answer the call, when she came back inside she was crying.

My first thought was oh boy here we go, here comes the bullshit.

I never asked what’s wrong, instead I said let me call you a taxi and I will see you when you feel better.

Her - She asked me, you don’t want to know what’s wrong.
Me - No, it’s not my business.
Her - Let me tell you.

I did not want to hear it, she’s not my friend and I’m not a shoulder for her to cry on, we are business partners (for 1 & 2 hours) and sex is our business.

I do not listen to women problems or gossip with them here at home, so I’m damn sure not listening or gossiping with Dominican women..... That shit is not cool.

Mannnn I had a chick tell me her uncle m*lested her and is now m*lesting her 8yr old daughter.

I went by her crib La Liberacion (behind La Union) to kick it....I told this BITCH I was omw - I get there she's not there. Her uncle opens the door and I see in the background her 8yr old...naked, walking from one bedroom to the other.

I wanted to choke the life outta this dude. The kid eventually came to the door behind him (dressed), so I told her to come with me to the store. I kept her out with me until the chick came home.

Of course I asked her 'how are you - are you ok'....she said she was good. She wasn't crying or anything...just acting like a normal happy kid after I bought her snacks and a soda.

She actually reached out to me for help. As much as I wanted to do something (he lived with her, her mom and the daughter), I was like 'you need to call the police'.

I refused to get involved with any of the locals and their family problems.
Yeah that sad stuff makes me really sad. Especially when the child is prepubescent, like what’s attractive about an 8 year old. The mental gymnastics behind that is outstanding. You not getting an 8 year old confused with an adult, at all.

Still not risking my life, or freedom behind some local crap. That’s too much attention and heat. All you could do was give the child a temporary relief from the abuse, however you yourself did the right thing to not get involved. She has to call the police herself, and hopefully not try to mention you

I recently asked an amiga why guys like Tex described are not reported to the police. She said it was purely economics. The guy is paying the bills and in return in some households he has access to the daughter or daughters as a consequence. What I found depressing was that my amiga viewed this as simply life in the barrio or campo. It was basically what the females in that hypothetical situation had to do to survive was none of her business.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 20, 2023, 04:00:40 PM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

They don’t know the whole story, all they now is what the girl told them during there gossiping session..

Story:
Had one over (August trip).who received a phone call, she went outside to answer the call, when she came back inside she was crying.

My first thought was oh boy here we go, here comes the bullshit.

I never asked what’s wrong, instead I said let me call you a taxi and I will see you when you feel better.

Her - She asked me, you don’t want to know what’s wrong.
Me - No, it’s not my business.
Her - Let me tell you.

I did not want to hear it, she’s not my friend and I’m not a shoulder for her to cry on, we are business partners (for 1 & 2 hours) and sex is our business.

I do not listen to women problems or gossip with them here at home, so I’m damn sure not listening or gossiping with Dominican women..... That shit is not cool.

Mannnn I had a chick tell me her uncle m*lested her and is now m*lesting her 8yr old daughter.

I went by her crib La Liberacion (behind La Union) to kick it....I told this BITCH I was omw - I get there she's not there. Her uncle opens the door and I see in the background her 8yr old...naked, walking from one bedroom to the other.

I wanted to choke the life outta this dude. The kid eventually came to the door behind him (dressed), so I told her to come with me to the store. I kept her out with me until the chick came home.

Of course I asked her 'how are you - are you ok'....she said she was good. She wasn't crying or anything...just acting like a normal happy kid after I bought her snacks and a soda.

She actually reached out to me for help. As much as I wanted to do something (he lived with her, her mom and the daughter), I was like 'you need to call the police'.

I refused to get involved with any of the locals and their family problems.
Yeah that sad stuff makes me really sad. Especially when the child is prepubescent, like what’s attractive about an 8 year old. The mental gymnastics behind that is outstanding. You not getting an 8 year old confused with an adult, at all.

Still not risking my life, or freedom behind some local crap. That’s too much attention and heat. All you could do was give the child a temporary relief from the abuse, however you yourself did the right thing to not get involved. She has to call the police herself, and hopefully not try to mention you

I recently asked an amiga why guys like Tex described are not reported to the police. She said it was purely economics. The guy is paying the bills and in return in some households he has access to the daughter or daughters as a consequence. What I found depressing was that my amiga viewed this as simply life in the barrio or campo. It was basically what the females in that hypothetical situation had to do to survive was none of her business.

Why is that so surprising considering that Chicas offer their relatives to you once you get tired of f--king them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 20, 2023, 05:02:32 PM
There’s a small group of guys who love these girls more then they love themselves…

They openly admit that they spend time talking about other men with the girls.

In there eyes the men are always wrong, ( let me rephrase, they think 9 times out of 10 the girl was did wrong).

They don’t know the whole story, all they now is what the girl told them during there gossiping session..

Story:
Had one over (August trip).who received a phone call, she went outside to answer the call, when she came back inside she was crying.

My first thought was oh boy here we go, here comes the bullshit.

I never asked what’s wrong, instead I said let me call you a taxi and I will see you when you feel better.

Her - She asked me, you don’t want to know what’s wrong.
Me - No, it’s not my business.
Her - Let me tell you.

I did not want to hear it, she’s not my friend and I’m not a shoulder for her to cry on, we are business partners (for 1 & 2 hours) and sex is our business.

I do not listen to women problems or gossip with them here at home, so I’m damn sure not listening or gossiping with Dominican women..... That shit is not cool.

Mannnn I had a chick tell me her uncle m*lested her and is now m*lesting her 8yr old daughter.

I went by her crib La Liberacion (behind La Union) to kick it....I told this BITCH I was omw - I get there she's not there. Her uncle opens the door and I see in the background her 8yr old...naked, walking from one bedroom to the other.

I wanted to choke the life outta this dude. The kid eventually came to the door behind him (dressed), so I told her to come with me to the store. I kept her out with me until the chick came home.

Of course I asked her 'how are you - are you ok'....she said she was good. She wasn't crying or anything...just acting like a normal happy kid after I bought her snacks and a soda.

She actually reached out to me for help. As much as I wanted to do something (he lived with her, her mom and the daughter), I was like 'you need to call the police'.

I refused to get involved with any of the locals and their family problems.
Yeah that sad stuff makes me really sad. Especially when the child is prepubescent, like what’s attractive about an 8 year old. The mental gymnastics behind that is outstanding. You not getting an 8 year old confused with an adult, at all.

Still not risking my life, or freedom behind some local crap. That’s too much attention and heat. All you could do was give the child a temporary relief from the abuse, however you yourself did the right thing to not get involved. She has to call the police herself, and hopefully not try to mention you

I recently asked an amiga why guys like Tex described are not reported to the police. She said it was purely economics. The guy is paying the bills and in return in some households he has access to the daughter or daughters as a consequence. What I found depressing was that my amiga viewed this as simply life in the barrio or campo. It was basically what the females in that hypothetical situation had to do to survive was none of her business.

Why is that so surprising considering that Chicas offer their relatives to you once you get tired of f--king them.

I didn’t say I found it surprising. I said I found my amiga’s attitude towards it depressing. I’ve heard many molestation horror stories both here and at home.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 20, 2023, 05:38:48 PM
@Murano,
I saw your report about Mango Tropical, you gave it a thumbs up, I’ve walked by and seen the sign with there selection of steaks including the tomahawk’s, but never stopped in.

I’m going to give them a try during my March trip.. Thanks for the review.!

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 20, 2023, 06:15:27 PM
@Murano,
I saw your report about Mango Tropical, you gave it a thumbs up, I’ve walked by and seen the sign with there selection of steaks including the tomahawk’s, but never stopped in.

I’m going to give them a try during my March trip.. Thanks for the review.!
We went to Mango Tropical about 10 days ago.  Two of us had the salmon.  Very good.  Decent size piece of grilled salmon.  I had salad and mash potatoes with it.   Mash was tasty.   I believe that it was $RD 1,150 with taxes.  The price I paid was the same price on the menu. ( no drink )  Oh yeah I also asked for garlic bread.  Enough for two.  There was no extra charge on the bill.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 20, 2023, 10:51:38 PM
The food must be good, you’ve been there more then once.
Your post where you mention having the burger and your friends having steaks & salad bar caught my attention.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 21, 2023, 09:13:36 AM
The food must be good, you’ve been there more then once.
Your post where you mention having the burger and your friends having steaks & salad bar caught my attention.
Every guy that I was with who had steaks, said they enjoyed them.  Usually people are skeptical about what their steak are going to be like when it hits the table.  Especially at a restaurant they have never been before.  Is it going to be cooked right?  Is it going to be too tough?  Is it going to be too small for the price?   I have heard reports from 4 guys praising Mango Tropical steaks. 

Makes me wanna try a steak one of these days.  I used to avoid red meat for decades, up until last year.  So if I am going to eat red meat every once in awhile, I would want it to be good quality, and worth it.    The Angus beef burger I had there was worth it.  What I want to try next, is going to be the fish and chicken burgers,  and the salad with chicken.    The guy who had the salad with chicken on my 1st visit, said his salad was good.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 21, 2023, 09:31:12 AM
The food must be good, you’ve been there more then once.
Your post where you mention having the burger and your friends having steaks & salad bar caught my attention.
Every guy that I was with who had steaks, said they enjoyed them.  Usually people are skeptical about what their steak are going to be like when it hits the table.  Especially at a restaurant they have never been before.  Is it going to be cooked right?  Is it going to be too tough?  Is it going to be too small for the price?   I have heard reports from 4 guys praising Mango Tropical steaks. 

Makes me wanna try a steak one of these days.  I used to avoid red meat for decades, up until last year.  So if I am going to eat red meat every once in awhile, I would want it to be good quality, and worth it.    The Angus beef burger I had there was worth it.  What I want to try next, is going to be the fish and chicken burgers,  and the salad with chicken.    The guy who had the salad with chicken on my 1st visit, said his salad was good.
Roger that… Thanks bro.!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Pussyrus1422 on January 21, 2023, 02:33:30 PM
Makes me wanna try a steak one of these days.  I used to avoid red meat for decades, up until last year.  So if I am going to eat red meat every once in awhile, I would want it to be good quality, and worth it.    
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Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu



 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 21, 2023, 03:55:10 PM
Had lunch once at Nelson's Bistro, the burger was  great, but the place was loud, a kids party was going on.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on January 21, 2023, 04:03:51 PM
Haven't had the steaks at Mango Tropical yet but can say the steaks at Nelsons are easily some of the best in Sousa.

Burgers are great to.
They do pizza in a fire brick oven and it's very good as well

True it does get a little loud with the kids having a good time on the playground but if you sit away from that area its not to bad

Sit in the back where it's quiet but the waitstaff tends to forget you back there.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 21, 2023, 07:36:44 PM

Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu
For the life of me, I could not remember where Nelsons was located.  But now I know. I have been a few times.   Across the street and down the block from Super Pola.    Me and a buddy had some pasta with chicken in it, on one occasion.  And some delicious garlic bread with cheese in it.   Back in 2021.   I thought the food was great, but a place I would NOT go frequently.   Mainly because the food was pricey, and I dont like paying 28% taxes on the bill as if Im a tourist on vacation.   

I recall the feeling I had when I saw 28% tax on the bill.    I felt like, if I was a Dominican, I could buy some food staples at the local colmado with it.   The other occasions I bought pizza for take out.   The pizza was good. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 22, 2023, 03:41:48 AM

Yeah that sad stuff makes me really sad. Especially when the child is prepubescent, like what’s attractive about an 8 year old. The mental gymnastics behind that is outstanding. You not getting an 8 year old confused with an adult, at all.

Still not risking my life, or freedom behind some local crap. That’s too much attention and heat. All you could do was give the child a temporary relief from the abuse, however you yourself did the right thing to not get involved. She has to call the police herself, and hopefully not try to mention you

That's what was on my mind.

I stopped going over there - I didn't want to be accused of touching her, just to save the uncle.

All I could think of is the STREET JUSTICE that would have been exacted on me, as I proclaim my innocence.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on January 22, 2023, 04:11:56 AM
Makes me wanna try a steak one of these days.  I used to avoid red meat for decades, up until last year.  So if I am going to eat red meat every once in awhile, I would want it to be good quality, and worth it.    

Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu
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Where exactly is Nelson’s located???
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on January 22, 2023, 04:21:05 AM
Just up the side street where Super Pola is

(https://i.postimg.cc/3wnywPF3/nelsons.png) (https://postimages.org/)

You likely have been past it and never realized it is there
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2023, 07:29:38 AM

Where exactly is Nelson’s located???
It's one of those places one may pass by frequently, and not know exactly what's there, or pay attention to the name.   The 1st thing you notice in passing is the childrens playground in the foreground of the establishment.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 22, 2023, 08:03:17 AM

Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu
For the life of me, I could not remember where Nelsons was located.  But now I know. I have been a few times.   Across the street and down the block from Super Pola.    Me and a buddy had some pasta with chicken in it, on one occasion.  And some delicious garlic bread with cheese in it.   Back in 2021.   I thought the food was great, but a place I would NOT go frequently.   Mainly because the food was pricey, and I dont like paying 28% taxes on the bill as if Im a tourist on vacation.   

I recall the feeling I had when I saw 28% tax on the bill.    I felt like, if I was a Dominican, I could buy some food staples at the local colmado with it.   The other occasions I bought pizza for take out.   The pizza was good.
Doesn’t matter where you eat tax is tax like back home , some include in price some don’t most will tell you on menu included or not , sucks but it is what it is.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 22, 2023, 10:31:03 AM

Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu
For the life of me, I could not remember where Nelsons was located.  But now I know. I have been a few times.   Across the street and down the block from Super Pola.    Me and a buddy had some pasta with chicken in it, on one occasion.  And some delicious garlic bread with cheese in it.   Back in 2021.   I thought the food was great, but a place I would NOT go frequently.   Mainly because the food was pricey, and I dont like paying 28% taxes on the bill as if Im a tourist on vacation.   

I recall the feeling I had when I saw 28% tax on the bill.    I felt like, if I was a Dominican, I could buy some food staples at the local colmado with it.   The other occasions I bought pizza for take out.   The pizza was good.
Doesn’t matter where you eat tax is tax like back home , some include in price some don’t most will tell you on menu included or not , sucks but it is what it is.
Why do you say it doesnt matter where you eat?  Are you suggesting that meals ( at restaurants ) with taxes that are assumed to be included, the final price will be the same or equivalent with another restaurant that adds 28% taxes on the bill? 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on January 24, 2023, 08:10:22 AM

Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu
For the life of me, I could not remember where Nelsons was located.  But now I know. I have been a few times.   Across the street and down the block from Super Pola.    Me and a buddy had some pasta with chicken in it, on one occasion.  And some delicious garlic bread with cheese in it.   Back in 2021.   I thought the food was great, but a place I would NOT go frequently.   Mainly because the food was pricey, and I dont like paying 28% taxes on the bill as if Im a tourist on vacation.   

I recall the feeling I had when I saw 28% tax on the bill.    I felt like, if I was a Dominican, I could buy some food staples at the local colmado with it.   The other occasions I bought pizza for take out.   The pizza was good.
Doesn’t matter where you eat tax is tax like back home , some include in price some don’t most will tell you on menu included or not , sucks but it is what it is.
Why do you say it doesnt matter where you eat?  Are you suggesting that meals ( at restaurants ) with taxes that are assumed to be included, the final price will be the same or equivalent with another restaurant that adds 28% taxes on the bill?
No, some restaurants include taxes on menu prices some add taxes to price like back home. You have to look at menu at restaurant it will say taxe incl. (impuestos incluidos) or taxes added to price . By law restaurant and bars has to have digital register for audit purposes..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 24, 2023, 01:05:45 PM

Not sure if you have eaten at Nelson's Lounge & Bistro, however the Angus Churrasco will not disappoint.

All their steaks are now US Angus as per the new meat selections.

https://www.nlbsosua.com/index.php/es/menu
For the life of me, I could not remember where Nelsons was located.  But now I know. I have been a few times.   Across the street and down the block from Super Pola.    Me and a buddy had some pasta with chicken in it, on one occasion.  And some delicious garlic bread with cheese in it.   Back in 2021.   I thought the food was great, but a place I would NOT go frequently.   Mainly because the food was pricey, and I dont like paying 28% taxes on the bill as if Im a tourist on vacation.   

I recall the feeling I had when I saw 28% tax on the bill.    I felt like, if I was a Dominican, I could buy some food staples at the local colmado with it.   The other occasions I bought pizza for take out.   The pizza was good.
Doesn’t matter where you eat tax is tax like back home , some include in price some don’t most will tell you on menu included or not , sucks but it is what it is.
Why do you say it doesnt matter where you eat?  Are you suggesting that meals ( at restaurants ) with taxes that are assumed to be included, the final price will be the same or equivalent with another restaurant that adds 28% taxes on the bill?
No, some restaurants include taxes on menu prices some add taxes to price like back home. You have to look at menu at restaurant it will say taxe incl. (impuestos incluidos) or taxes added to price . By law restaurant and bars has to have digital register for audit purposes..
Ok you did say that.  But that doesnt explain how it doesnt matter where you eat.   Reason being, some places that have taxes included,  the prices of the food and drink may still be cheaper overall than the prices of food/drink from some restaurants who add 28% tax to the bill.   

Sometimes drink prices can make the difference.  Where one place may charge a relatively low price for their drinks, and another place almost doubles the price of their drinks.   Further adding to the overall cost.   

One can go to places like Cheers,Fat Jessies, or Plan B and get select drinks as a special.  Might be cheap liquor.   Go to another place that charges 250 to 300 pesos ( might still be cheap liquor ) plus they add 28% taxes on top of that.   Several drinks later, and one has a nice bill to pay. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 25, 2023, 05:31:05 PM
Wednesday January 25th, 2023 

Had lunch at Mango Tropical.  This time we both had the Cesar salad with chicken.  This visit I paid attention to the bill and how they charge.  The price for everything has the 18% included in the bill.  So for 2 salads, one Presidente and one Passion fruit juice, the bill came to 1574 pesos.  Basically 800 pesos per person without tip.  What I like about this place, is that we also got 2 side orders of garlic bread ( we ordered it ) , but that did not cost extra.  A nice touch.   

While having lunch there, I'm noticing bunches of cats in town.  Several groups of 2's up to 10 dudes walking around.  Many looking like short timers (2 to 5 yrs ) coming to Sosua.   Also groups of chicas are filling up the town too.  A mixture of fresh faces ( new to me ) and Sosua vets ( that everybody has seen plenty of ).   

Nice to see chicas are making a comeback after weeks of it being slow here.  Sad to see so many of them though looking like street hood rats patrolling the area like they have no value.   It was a treat back in the day seeing women sitting in places like Merengue, New Garden, Rumba,  etc early or late afternoon into the evening.   If they were decent, they did not wait too long before being snatched up. 

It almost seems the p4p game was more personable back then when we had less technology at our disposal.  But with the cell phones we have now,  there is no FOMO, nor any urgency to make things happen right away.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on January 25, 2023, 09:34:35 PM
Wednesday January 25th, 2023 

Had lunch at Mango Tropical.  This time we both had the Cesar salad with chicken.  This visit I paid attention to the bill and how they charge.  The price for everything has the 18% included in the bill.  So for 2 salads, one Presidente and one Passion fruit juice, the bill came to 1574 pesos.  Basically 800 pesos per person without tip.  What I like about this place, is that we also got 2 side orders of garlic bread ( we ordered it ) , but that did not cost extra.  A nice touch.   

While having lunch there, I'm noticing bunches of cats in town.  Several groups of 2's up to 10 dudes walking around.  Many looking like short timers (2 to 5 yrs ) coming to Sosua.   Also groups of chicas are filling up the town too.  A mixture of fresh faces ( new to me ) and Sosua vets ( that everybody has seen plenty of ).   

Nice to see chicas are making a comeback after weeks of it being slow here.  Sad to see so many of them though looking like street hood rats patrolling the area like they have no value.   It was a treat back in the day seeing women sitting in places like Merengue, New Garden, Rumba,  etc early or late afternoon into the evening.   If they were decent, they did not wait too long before being snatched up. 

It almost seems the p4p game was more personable back then when we had less technology at our disposal.  But with the cell phones we have now,  there is no FOMO, nor any urgency to make things happen right away.

"sitting in places" this right here!!!!

I don't get it, is the average girl not allowed in? Has Merengue and New Garden been told no chicas allowed?  Some are in Rhumba, but committing to a dinner table, I don't like it in there.

City Lights has reopened and it's nice. I am way more likely to walk around and to take the time to chat to a girl in there than one standing outside Montreal. Ok... I will NEVER chat to a girl outside Montreal. But they are not going into City Lights!!!

Why?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 02:50:44 AM
"sitting in places" this right here!!!!

I don't get it, is the average girl not allowed in? Has Merengue and New Garden been told no chicas allowed?  Some are in Rhumba, but committing to a dinner table, I don't like it in there.

City Lights has reopened and it's nice. I am way more likely to walk around and to take the time to chat to a girl in there than one standing outside Montreal. Ok... I will NEVER chat to a girl outside Montreal. But they are not going into City Lights!!!

Why?
I can speculate :  During the day,  all kinds of things may be going on with chicas.  Some still sleeping or chilling indoors, some wifed up or having a morning session, some having breakfast and about to be dismissed by their client.  Some preparing to head to WU or to the bank to make a deposit/withdrawal or exchange money.   Some actually on a moto in transit to head home, or to see another client. 

By early afternoon, enough chicas are ready to hit the streets looking for work, and/or looking for a cheap place to have lunch.   That could be on the strip, on the beach, or with some dude that stops them and gets them to join him.  Some chicks may have early appts to see a client. 

By mid afternoon while Kings, Merengue , Chez Montreal and every bar in town is open, chicks are not going in these places because there are little to no guys in there to hire them. Back before Davids Plaza was open, David had the old High Society open.   He had food, and he had drinks.  He offered a free drink to the chicks as an incentive to come there. 

That lasted a few visits.  The chicks would come in and get their free drink and walk the f--k out.  No clients, no takers, no business.  Part of it has something to do with the reasons were talking about.  A lot of these chicks vibe does not inspire guys to hire them Johnny on the spot.  Them chicks have that thirsty hood rat vibe.  "Hey you, Im looking for work,  Which one of you sons a bitches is ready to hire me"?  "Lets get going, I aint got all day"   

To top it off, they are usually parading around in groups, like a mob of classless chicks.    That doesnt inspire some guys either.   Chicks dont realize that sometimes guys have feelings.  They have standards too.  They need to be stimulated.  Incentivized.   

My point here is, many of this generation of chicks do not have the style of chicks from years past.      These chicks ( IMO ) seem to lack class and home training as a collective.   Sitting comfortably at a venue for enough of them is a time waster.  Especially when they perceive that they may be missing out on all of the guys that are out and about.

Take the "big circle".  Chicks not at the beach in the day time, will walk around the strip, circle around past every hotel and restaurant, and back around to PC.  Covering a lot of ground, and bumping into guys in the process.   Exchanging numbers while on patrol.   Sitting up in Kings, Merengue, and other bars doesnt get the same results.   

Plus it puts many of them in the position of possibly having to spend their own money on food and drink while being bored waiting for "quality/dime" male customers to engage.  LOL.   Many of them may go hungry or thirsty before spending their own money mid to late afternoon before making any money. 

Enough cats are not ready for day time action as well.  So it serves little purpose for them to sit down somewhere with nobody ready to take them out to go smash.   And that can happen all day up until the early evening for some chicks.   Including the chicks posted up at Bailee's.  Oh they exchange numbers, but some cats are there to eat, enjoy the sights.  Grab some numbers and bounce.  Maybe 30% to 50% of the time, a chica in Bailee's may be actually leaving with a guy to smash.  Meanwhile dozens of others are getting no work, just attention. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 02:51:21 AM
Part 100

Thats why we see some of these chicks posted up outside of hotels like New Garden on the taxi side of the street.    These chicks are trying to catch a client before they even hit the street.  Many chicks get invited into smash just from the exposure of being outside.  So it's all about the FOMO ( fear of missing out ).  Sitting in a venue knowing their competition is out on patrol,  doesnt quite sit well with the casual sandal/sneaker wearing chica.   Kinda reminds me of moto drivers competing for fares.   The moto that accepts a fare that another moto turned down, thats the one that appears to be successful.   

Now this is something else to consider.  You may recall, in the past, that Haitian chicks were discouraged and often not welcomed into some places.  Merengue checked chicas coming in at the door, and kept them out. Rumba and D Latin used to do the same thing.  That may also apply to Classico as well.   

So Haitian chicks have a history of not being openly welcome in those places.  And thats one reason why Haitians gravitate to places like Bar Central, the German restaurant, Rancho Tipico, Cheers, and especially City/Sosua lights.   CL/SL was Haitian chicks safe haven.  It was one of the main clubs where Haitians chicks could go in, sit down and nobody would bother them,  or make them buy food or drink.   

If anything, many of those chicks would end up sitting with a guy within 30 minutes of coming in, and be drinking whatever her heart desired.  Haitian chicks got mad love up in CL/SL.   They got to dance/laugh and enjoy themselves.   Dominican chicks would go in there, but they did not pile up in CL/SLas as much as the Haitians.  The most you would see, is the Dominican chicks going in and out of the chica hotel right next door to the club.    Peep inside CL/SL, maybe go to the restroom and see if they pull a client out of there. 

So even though CL/SL is open now.  Time of day plays a role in why chicks may not be posted up in there.  And also because many chicas have adopted the patrol style of acquiring clients.  Later in the evening, some chicks will come out looking like they should be paid $100 and up.   Less casual and more dressed up, and maybe in heels.    Now when chicks break out with the heavy artillery,  they expect to be hired.

I think it hurts their ego, to get dressed up nicely with heels and still not get a client.  But for a typical evening, Kings, Merengue, Big City Flame may be the desired sitting posts.  The only other exposure would be a slight stroll on the strip hoping to catch a client.   

Back when Bourbon Street was open,  that place was a perfect sitting place for many of these chicks that acted like they had more class, even though dozens of other chicks were still on the sidewalk walking back and forth like extras in a movie.   And we still had chicks doing the Big Circle walk as well.   Oh yeah, Ahnvee did well for a while back in late 2020 up until 2021.   Many chicks did post up there.   Lined up outside trying to get in.

Interesting enough not every monger liked going to Ahnvee.  Some guys avoided Ahnvee because they themselves didnt like the clientele/vibe/ or the courtyard ambiance, or the inflated quotes chicks were asking/demanding.  Other cats paid that no mind, and they went anyway because there was plenty of juice to hire.  Ahnvee was an example of what it was like back in the day, of seeing chicks sitting at tables , dressed up and looking for work, instead of on foot patrol with running shoes or sandals on.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 03:16:15 AM
Now that all of the major holidays are out of the way, and chicks are slowly making a come back to Sosua,  guys should start seeing a lot more chicks sitting inside the typical places ( Merengue,Kings,Big City Flame,Bar Central,CL/SL etc ) mainly in the evenings and special events.     But chicas on foot patrol?  Standing outside of venues, hotels etc and doing the Big Circle walk?   

That practice is an essential part of most p4p chicas SOP.  As long as they can get away with it.    Lets not forget.  There are a lot more chicas with cars, pasolas and 4 wheelers in town.   They have their own system of transportation, acquiring clients and pimping going on.  There is also collaborations going on with motoconchos and taxis.   We can include couriering "street pharmacueticals" too.   Above Shennelles kitchen is an active "street pharmacy", inside of the salon.   Thats why that salon has people going in and out all day long.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 07:15:32 AM
Another plausible conclusion in regards to why some chicks are not posting up inside of City/Sosua Lights?

City/Sosua Lights was known as Haitian station ( by some, also Bar Central ).   Dominican chicks were not as active hanging in there as the Haitian chicks ( same with Bar Central ).  Many Haitians have been actively getting deported during 2022 and up until now.  So if guys are noticing an absence of chicks in CL/SL or Bar Central these days, it could be many Haitian chicks fear getting arrested and/or harassed.     

That can also apply to Haitian chicks in Sosua overall.   Police were actually searching and finding Haitians in their barrios and campos.  Arresting them at their homes or walking in the street.   I imagine, some of those chicas dont know if it's safe to go in CL/SL or hang out in front of Bar Central or the German Bar.    What they might do.  If they see enough guys going in there,  then it may be safe to go in.   Use the guys in there as pretend clients.   The way they do on the street when they're running from the cops.   

But if there are not many clients in there, they may feel it's better to stick to foot patrol. 

I saw David ( owner of CL/SL )  at the bank two weeks ago.  He told me that business at CL/SL was picking up, and that he did good $$$ that particular weekend.   Im assuming that meant both guys and chicks were up in there buying and consuming plenty of drinks.    What I dont know, is what was the breakdown of folks in there?  Tourists, Haitians,Dominicans,Mongers?    Is CL/SL starting to look like it used to?   70% white guys and 30% other.  70% Haitian chicas and 30% other.    IDK?

It may still be too early to see chicas flocking into CL/SL at the volume we used to see, as long as there is not enough potential clients posted up inside to hire them. If there is no money to made inside a venue, then it must be on the street.  Like in front of Chez Montreal,Bar Central,all of PC., The Big Circle
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 09:43:32 AM
Thursday January 26, 2023

New Garden @ 9am :

2 tables are occupied by 4 or 5 black guys 45 and under.  1 table occupied by 4 white guys, over 50 possibly over 60.  One table occupied by tourist/snowbird looking white folks, joined later by a 40is white guy with a beautiful Dominicana.   

One table was occupied by a couple of cute average weight classed Dominicanas. Sat down and ordered breakfast, and possibly hoping to also to snag a client.  No other chicas were posted up inside, at least not within an hour that I was there.  All other tables were occupied by one male.

During my time there, I see several chicas being escorted to the front desk.  One pair with one guy, both chicks were attractive, both with asses that looked like they had been altered.   

One of the chicks at the group table was definitely sporting an extra large surgical ass.  She eventually left to go back to the room, she changed and came out to be escorted to the gate.  Her date/stay was done.

Last but not least.  Before I left a huge linebacker sized dude comes out with a MayTag washer shaped short chica to escort her out.   Which only goes to show.  Not all guys may care about quality or dimes the way other guys see it.   Even if that chick was a lousy lay, he still chose her.   Her appearance was not a deterrent. 

If he had a good time with that chica, and I were to ask him if Sosua is on a downfall,  he probably would say no.   There are now an abundance of chicas just like her eager and waiting to be hired.  And still, dont be surprised if the guy paid her $100 for a TLN.  A chick being FAT does not necessarily mean a chick will be less expensive.   But the point is.   

Some guys may not see Sosua as on a demise or experiencing a downfall in terms of the appearance/quality of chicas.   One mans trash is another mans treasure.  Some may be repulsed by some chicks and ignore them, while other men sees their availability as an opportunity. 

A 50ish nice looking Dominicana comes into New Garden.  Turns out she does massages and personal grooming.  She eventually comes to my table to introduce herself, and offer her card/services.  I ask out of curiosity,  how much for a massage, and how much for a pedicure?   

She said 2000 pesos for a massage, and 1000 pesos for a pedicure.   I say thanks for the information.   She says, you dont want my card?  I say no mi amor, I wont need it because it's too much.  I can get an hour massage at Kika Massage for only 800 pesos.   

Apparently any tourist looking person in NG to her may look like they would easily pay her 2000 pesos ( gringo prices ) for a massage.

So compare that exchange to how enough chicas these days start off asking/demanding $100 and up just for short time.  And almost bust out with an attitude when some guys arent breaking their necks to pay it. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on January 26, 2023, 11:47:33 AM
I must say you don't @ Murano you don't make Sosua seem desirable from what you describe we got poorly dressed chicks with bad attitudes and trying to charge high prices. The point about chicas hanging at hotels yea they always did that one thing I noticed about that is there usually sub par chicks trying to grab a thirsty newbie. On the linebacker size dude with the ugly fat chick and him staying if you were to ask is Sosua in a down fall and him staying no all I say to that is yea some dudes still like Sosua and as I say if your a newbie or have low standards then Sosua can still be a top mongering location.

The fact that Sosua has such low quality likely doesn't bother you as much because you aren't a sport f--ker and instead deal with regulars you aren't a tourist so have the time to just kinda hangout and wait until an attractive chick appears. You say you don't know what the downfall of Sosua is but when I read what you write your describing it. To summarize  what I think it is there are less venues to find chicks and party than in the past there are alot less chicks than in the past there attitude and appearance is worst than in the past and they try to charge alot more than in the past.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Silkyslim75 on January 26, 2023, 12:32:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 01:00:25 PM
I must say you don't @ Murano you don't make Sosua seem desirable from what you describe we got poorly dressed chicks with bad attitudes and trying to charge high prices. The point about chicas hanging at hotels yea they always did that one thing I noticed about that is there usually sub par chicks trying to grab a thirsty newbie. On the linebacker size dude with the ugly fat chick and him staying if you were to ask is Sosua in a down fall and him staying no all I say to that is yea some dudes still like Sosua and as I say if your a newbie or have low standards then Sosua can still be a top mongering location.

The fact that Sosua has such low quality likely doesn't bother you as much because you aren't a sport f--ker and instead deal with regulars you aren't a tourist so have the time to just kinda hangout and wait until an attractive chick appears. You say you don't know what the downfall of Sosua is but when I read what you write your describing it. To summarize  what I think it is there are less venues to find chicks and party than in the past there are alot less chicks than in the past there attitude and appearance is worst than in the past and they try to charge alot more than in the past.
More accurately WT3 what I have been trying to get across, is Sosua's demise or a downfall or  those that see Sosua as their paradise is in the eyes of the beholder.   There is no one size fits all way to assess Sosua.

A lot of guys see beautiful available chicas of all sizes and shapes.   
And that there are guys who are enjoying Sosua regardless of what others may think or feel. 

Another thing to note, I did not exactly say the fat chick with the linebacker sized dude was ugly.  I just inferred that she might not be perceived as quality or a dime.   And I meant,  through the lens of certain others.   I wouldnt consider the chick ugly,  but for me I wouldnt be attracted to her shape.  She wouldnt be my dime.  But I aint mad at the dude she was with for choosing her.   He was older and she was younger.  Thats one of the benefits to the p4p game here.

For all I know her skills in the bedroom might far exceed some chicks most would think they would perform well, but may disappoint.    I guess Im also addressing, that sometimes guys may need to accept the fact that they arent the only ones on the planet ,who has a say so on what Sosua represents to them. Or what quality is and what isnt.   

As as for me?  Im just trying to be more open minded and accepting that the demise and downfall guys arent the only ones that have an opinion or an assessment of what Sosua represents.

Early today, I talked to a friend of mine.  A white dude that just got back to Sosua, after being absent for over a year.   He said he was having the time of his life.   I can give many examples of guys saying the same thing to me.  None are talking about a downfall or a demise of Sosua, as if it's stopping them from doing something.   They/WE all acknowledge how things have changed.  How the chicas are etc.  But to enough of us, Sosua is still a paradise.  Most cats I know travel to other destinations.  And still they have an affection for this place.  And they still come back in spite of Sosuas perceived and observed flaws. 

I get it, that these are not the examples that some cats want to hear.  But I am showing positive examples of how others coming to Sosua may be happy and content being here, or at least they have adapted to the way things are.   Ive heard some cats say  "A bad day in Sosua, is better than any day in the states"   

And thats exactly how some guys feel.   When I was at Mango Tropical yesterday , I saw over a dozen fine ass chicas ( fine to me ).  But I didnt describe them as such.  I just said I saw some chicas, and how I perceived them ( characteristics ).  I dont focus much on quality in terms of appearance.  I focus more on quality when it comes to how chicks carry themselves, especially out in public.   

When I do decide to try a new chick, the attraction comes 1st.  And then I look for the attitude, the vibe, and signs of trouble.   If we dont have a meeting of the minds on price or services, I dont assume that Sosua is on some downfall or demise.   I just move on and find another one to vet.   Eventually I find one that I can kick it with.

Like I said before.  I can only be in one hole at a time.  The majority of chicks in Sosua dont have to meet my standards of quality in order for me to find just one chick to hire.  Thats why I cant blame Sosua or everybody in Sosua supposedly contributing to some negative outcome for something I still have a certain degree of leverage and control over. 


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 26, 2023, 01:18:19 PM
"sitting in places" this right here!!!!

I don't get it, is the average girl not allowed in? Has Merengue and New Garden been told no chicas allowed?  Some are in Rhumba, but committing to a dinner table, I don't like it in there.

City Lights has reopened and it's nice. I am way more likely to walk around and to take the time to chat to a girl in there than one standing outside Montreal. Ok... I will NEVER chat to a girl outside Montreal. But they are not going into City Lights!!!

Why?
I can speculate :  During the day,  all kinds of things may be going on with chicas.  Some still sleeping or chilling indoors, some wifed up or having a morning session, some having breakfast and about to be dismissed by their client.  Some preparing to head to WU or to the bank to make a deposit/withdrawal or exchange money.   Some actually on a moto in transit to head home, or to see another client. 

By early afternoon, enough chicas are ready to hit the streets looking for work, and/or looking for a cheap place to have lunch.   That could be on the strip, on the beach, or with some dude that stops them and gets them to join him.  Some chicks may have early appts to see a client. 

By mid afternoon while Kings, Merengue , Chez Montreal and every bar in town is open, chicks are not going in these places because there are little to no guys in there to hire them. Back before Davids Plaza was open, David had the old High Society open.   He had food, and he had drinks.  He offered a free drink to the chicks as an incentive to come there. 

That lasted a few visits.  The chicks would come in and get their free drink and walk the f--k out.  No clients, no takers, no business.  Part of it has something to do with the reasons were talking about.  A lot of these chicks vibe does not inspire guys to hire them Johnny on the spot.  Them chicks have that thirsty hood rat vibe.  "Hey you, Im looking for work,  Which one of you sons a bitches is ready to hire me"?  "Lets get going, I aint got all day"   

To top it off, they are usually parading around in groups, like a mob of classless chicks.    That doesnt inspire some guys either.   Chicks dont realize that sometimes guys have feelings.  They have standards too.  They need to be stimulated.  Incentivized.   

My point here is, many of this generation of chicks do not have the style of chicks from years past.      These chicks ( IMO ) seem to lack class and home training as a collective.   Sitting comfortably at a venue for enough of them is a time waster.  Especially when they perceive that they may be missing out on all of the guys that are out and about.

Take the "big circle".  Chicks not at the beach in the day time, will walk around the strip, circle around past every hotel and restaurant, and back around to PC.  Covering a lot of ground, and bumping into guys in the process.   Exchanging numbers while on patrol.   Sitting up in Kings, Merengue, and other bars doesnt get the same results.   

Plus it puts many of them in the position of possibly having to spend their own money on food and drink while being bored waiting for "quality/dime" male customers to engage.  LOL.   Many of them may go hungry or thirsty before spending their own money mid to late afternoon before making any money. 

Enough cats are not ready for day time action as well.  So it serves little purpose for them to sit down somewhere with nobody ready to take them out to go smash.   And that can happen all day up until the early evening for some chicks.   Including the chicks posted up at Bailee's.  Oh they exchange numbers, but some cats are there to eat, enjoy the sights.  Grab some numbers and bounce.  Maybe 30% to 50% of the time, a chica in Bailee's may be actually leaving with a guy to smash.  Meanwhile dozens of others are getting no work, just attention.

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 26, 2023, 01:45:44 PM
I must say you don't @ Murano you don't make Sosua seem desirable from what you describe we got poorly dressed chicks with bad attitudes and trying to charge high prices. The point about chicas hanging at hotels yea they always did that one thing I noticed about that is there usually sub par chicks trying to grab a thirsty newbie. On the linebacker size dude with the ugly fat chick and him staying if you were to ask is Sosua in a down fall and him staying no all I say to that is yea some dudes still like Sosua and as I say if your a newbie or have low standards then Sosua can still be a top mongering location.

The fact that Sosua has such low quality likely doesn't bother you as much because you aren't a sport f--ker and instead deal with regulars you aren't a tourist so have the time to just kinda hangout and wait until an attractive chick appears. You say you don't know what the downfall of Sosua is but when I read what you write your describing it. To summarize  what I think it is there are less venues to find chicks and party than in the past there are alot less chicks than in the past there attitude and appearance is worst than in the past and they try to charge alot more than in the past.
More accurately WT3 what I have been trying to get across, is Sosua's demise or a downfall or  those that see Sosua as their paradise is in the eyes of the beholder.   There is no one size fits all way to assess Sosua.

A lot of guys see beautiful available chicas of all sizes and shapes.   
And that there are guys who are enjoying Sosua regardless of what others may think or feel. 

Another thing to note, I did not exactly say the fat chick with the linebacker sized dude was ugly.  I just inferred that she might not be perceived as quality or a dime.   And I meant,  through the lens of certain others.   I wouldnt consider the chick ugly,  but for me I wouldnt be attracted to her shape.  She wouldnt be my dime.  But I aint mad at the dude she was with for choosing her.   He was older and she was younger.  Thats one of the benefits to the p4p game here.

For all I know her skills in the bedroom might far exceed some chicks most would think they would perform well, but may disappoint.    I guess Im also addressing, that sometimes guys may need to accept the fact that they arent the only ones on the planet ,who has a say so on what Sosua represents to them. Or what quality is and what isnt.   

As as for me?  Im just trying to be more open minded and accepting that the demise and downfall guys arent the only ones that have an opinion or an assessment of what Sosua represents.

Early today, I talked to a friend of mine.  A white dude that just got back to Sosua, after being absent for over a year.   He said he was having the time of his life.   I can give many examples of guys saying the same thing to me.  None are talking about a downfall or a demise of Sosua, as if it's stopping them from doing something.   They/WE all acknowledge how things have changed.  How the chicas are etc.  But to enough of us, Sosua is still a paradise.  Most cats I know travel to other destinations.  And still they have an affection for this place.  And they still come back in spite of Sosuas perceived and observed flaws. 

I get it, that these are not the examples that some cats want to hear.  But I am showing positive examples of how others coming to Sosua may be happy and content being here, or at least they have adapted to the way things are.   Ive heard some cats say  "A bad day in Sosua, is better than any day in the states"   

And thats exactly how some guys feel.   When I was at Mango Tropical yesterday , I saw over a dozen fine ass chicas ( fine to me ).  But I didnt describe them as such.  I just said I saw some chicas, and how I perceived them ( characteristics ).  I dont focus much on quality in terms of appearance.  I focus more on quality when it comes to how chicks carry themselves, especially out in public.   

When I do decide to try a new chick, the attraction comes 1st.  And then I look for the attitude, the vibe, and signs of trouble.   If we dont have a meeting of the minds on price or services, I dont assume that Sosua is on some downfall or demise.   I just move on and find another one to vet.   Eventually I find one that I can kick it with.

Like I said before.  I can only be in one hole at a time.  The majority of chicks in Sosua dont have to meet my standards of quality in order for me to find just one chick to hire.  Thats why I cant blame Sosua or everybody in Sosua supposedly contributing to some negative outcome for something I still have a certain degree of leverage and control over.

What would be the down sides of living on PC or Dr. Rosen?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 03:16:40 PM

What would be the down sides of living on PC or Dr. Rosen?
For me, One thing would be parking.  I have several forms of transpo.  All conveniently off of the street and undercover.   Living on PC or Dr Rosen would mean subjecting my vehicles to vandalism, theft, and increased exposure to the elements.   Also loss of a convenient parking space closer to wherever I may be staying.  Also when I travel for months at a time, I wouldnt want my vehicles sitting there.   Especially when they might need to be moved when the streets were paved. 

Currently, I dont have that problem.  I can leave everything I drive for a year, without any concern. 

Increased noise?   That could be considered another downside. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 03:27:31 PM
For me, the positives of living in Sosua far outweigh any downfall or demise that others may be experiencing.   One of the main benefits I value by living here, is that I am not tethered to Sosua as if Im stuck in some sort of rut.   As if Sosua is the only place in the world I see value in.   I believe my perspective is that of an ordinary expat, not like someone on a timed vacation that has to get it in, or feel they have wasted their time and money on poor quality.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 03:42:13 PM

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.
Thats a reality that does exist for enough guys.   Too bad we dont have stats for the guys who represent themselves better than those guys.   They exist too, but how and when do they get acknowledgement for handling their business with these chicas better than the other guys?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 04:56:49 PM
You say you don't know what the downfall of Sosua is but when I read what you write your describing it. To summarize  what I think it is there are less venues to find chicks and party than in the past there are alot less chicks than in the past there attitude and appearance is worst than in the past and they try to charge alot more than in the past.
Im not sure if I articulated it like that.  I believe I said, or at least meant, is that I do not recognize a downfall or a demise of Sosua as it relates to my perspective.   I DO recognize a change or an evolution with Sosua and the people that visit.  And that people will have to make a decision on how they choose to deal with it, or not.   

Yes there are less venues to find chicks.  But how many venues does one need to find chicks?  Who said we needed all of the venues that Sosua used to have just to find chicks?  Is claiming there are less venues a way of making excuses for not getting laid by who we want?   Like I said before, many cats that come to Sosua never went to those venues that were open.  They cant miss what they cant measure.  Others adapted to the closures.  And still Sosua thrives.  What do we have now, casinos and a club down by Playa Chiquita? 

There are more chicks with attitude, and more chicas charging more?   I agree.   Now check this out.

Out of all of the chicks that come to Sosua.  Exactly what would be the % of chicks that have an attitude, and those that flat out wont budge from their high prices?   Compared to the ones that are decent quality, easy going attitude, and flexible in their pricing?   Both types co exist in Sosua. 

Here's where Im going.  Dudes need to stop judging all of these women by only one narrative.  All with attitudes and all over charging.  Chicks with attitude and over charging is in addition to women who dont represent themselves that way.   Just because some cats get a dozen chicks with attitude or overcharging, that doesnt apply to every chick in Sosua.   

We have all read trip reports right here from guys proving that the opposite narrative is true for enough chicas.  Decent quality, decent vibe, good price.   Came to Sosua and had a ball.  What downfall or demise did that guy experience?

Thats what I was getting at before.  Now that Sosua has evolved,  maybe it's time that guys put in more effort towards vetting the chicks that they find attractive, dont have a bad attitude, and that are flexible with their expectations$$$.   

Now if thats too much for some cats to do,  then I dont recognize Sosua being on some sort of downfall or demise through their lens.  I look at it like this, it's an individual problem or responsibility for their perception or feelings of a downfall or a demise.   Every time I decide to try some new talent, no matter where I found her, and she turns out to be a winner. 

Im not thinking about closed venues, or attitude of other chicks that I encountered before, or poor quality of chicks that dont turn me on.   The one dick I have ,is hopefully going in the chick I got in front of me.   

The present is the moment Im living in,  not the past or the future.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: El_lobo00 on January 26, 2023, 05:47:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN

Ill acknowledge that a lot of blk brothers that visit the DR (particularly sosua) ain’t moving right. But it is unfair and inaccurate to generalize all blk men as ghetto just as it would be unfair to generalize all dominican women as chapis. That would be like someone visiting the US for the first time, going to Las Vegas and thinking the entire country is a casino…

As far as that dominicana in the YouTube video is concerned, she’s inadvertently reveals her own racist beliefs by the way she compares and generalizes blk and white men. At around the 5 minute mark, She even remarks that when she encounters blk men that proclaim their affection for dominicanas, she encourages them to visit the DR so that they can get taken advantage of economically by the local women. I don’t think she realizes that she is further pushing the stereotype of Dr women being chapis by saying that.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 05:51:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN.
Murano does this video cut too close for you to opine. This DR. woman sound like she knows what shes talking about. From what I know she is spot on.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 26, 2023, 06:05:24 PM

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.
Thats a reality that does exist for enough guys.   Too bad we dont have stats for the guys who represent themselves better than those guys.   They exist too, but how and when do they get acknowledgement for handling their business with these chicas better than the other guys?   

@Bat man,
Me and Murano just spoke on this… Who is leading and who is being led. I’ve seen guys walking with a chica, but the chica is in front holding him by the hand walking him to his hotel( similar to a child walking behind his mother)…

Now today I read a post where dude said that 6000 for ST is the going rate in the casino.. My question how does he know this?

1. Did one of his so called amigas tell him this?

2. Did he round up all the chicas and conduct a survey?

3. Or was this the price all the girls he approached,
quoted him, after he gave them the lead by asking how much?

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 06:26:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN

Ill acknowledge that a lot of blk brothers that visit the DR (particularly sosua) ain’t moving right. But it is unfair and inaccurate to generalize all blk men as ghetto just as it would be unfair to generalize all dominican women as chapis. That would be like someone visiting the US for the first time, going to Las Vegas and thinking the entire country is a casino…

As far as that dominicana in the YouTube video is concerned, she’s inadvertently reveals her own racist beliefs by the way she compares and generalizes blk and white men. At around the 5 minute mark, She even remarks that when she encounters blk men that proclaim their affection for dominicanas, she encourages them to visit the DR so that they can get taken advantage of economically by the local women. I don’t think she realizes that she is further pushing the stereotype of Dr women being chapis by saying that.
THELOB. I do not think her opinion is racist on its face, its a cultural bias. Pretenders get no respect, so if you are a pretender you will get shit on. The Dominicans f--k us over because we are an easy target. Been in DR. a total of about 3yrs. been ran over a couple of times by young chicas. One thing I have learned is that an older women with a job will not f--k you over.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 06:34:26 PM

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.
Thats a reality that does exist for enough guys.   Too bad we dont have stats for the guys who represent themselves better than those guys.   They exist too, but how and when do they get acknowledgement for handling their business with these chicas better than the other guys?   

@Bat man,
Me and Murano just spoke on this… Who is leading and who is being led. I’ve seen guys walking with a chica, but the chica is in front holding him by the hand walking him to his hotel( similar to a child walking behind his mother)…

Now today I read a post where dude said that 6000 for ST is the going rate in the casino.. My question how does he know this?

1. Did one of his so called amigas tell him this?

2. Did he round up all the chicas and conduct a survey?

3. Or was this the price all the girls he approached,
quoted him, after he gave them the lead by asking how much?
WHAT post said a guy paid 6000 ST, I did not see it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Even if some fool paid that, it would not change what i pay.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on January 26, 2023, 06:51:57 PM
Bingo!!  Hold the Line!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 07:10:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN

Ill acknowledge that a lot of blk brothers that visit the DR (particularly sosua) ain’t moving right. But it is unfair and inaccurate to generalize all blk men as ghetto just as it would be unfair to generalize all dominican women as chapis. That would be like someone visiting the US for the first time, going to Las Vegas and thinking the entire country is a casino…

As far as that dominicana in the YouTube video is concerned, she’s inadvertently reveals her own racist beliefs by the way she compares and generalizes blk and white men. At around the 5 minute mark, She even remarks that when she encounters blk men that proclaim their affection for dominicanas, she encourages them to visit the DR so that they can get taken advantage of economically by the local women. I don’t think she realizes that she is further pushing the stereotype of Dr women being chapis by saying that.
I finally watched the video.  I concur with your assessment.  Moreover, you can find Dominican men in this country that have openly complained about some of their own women.  Like enough of them are money hungry.  Never satisfied.    And always thinks a man is supposed to just spring into action and start providing resources and money the moment the man expresses liking the lady. 

Dominican women have a high percentage of having children by men that have no plans of being a father full time to support the kids.  A practice all too common in the DR, that foreign men are all too familiar with.

I think that chicks POV is just one way for Dominican chicks to conveniently sweep under the rug how f--ked up their position is in life.  And how many of them dont really bring anything to the table, except drama and baggage.

By the time any man ( local or foreigner ) steps to enough DR chicks, she's already got too much responsibility that she expects some man to take on.      Just like the 27 yr old DC Cupid chick in my other thread, looking for a guy from the US.   

Later in the video, the guy in the video made some generalizations about women in the DR appreciating men who are doing xyz.  Brother must not have studied female nature before, especially in relation to men.   I'd like to know what mechanism or attribute do DR women supposedly have that makes them more appreciative towards foreign man doing their thing as opposed to appreciating their own men doing likewise?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on January 26, 2023, 07:12:18 PM

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.
Thats a reality that does exist for enough guys.   Too bad we dont have stats for the guys who represent themselves better than those guys.   They exist too, but how and when do they get acknowledgement for handling their business with these chicas better than the other guys?   

@Bat man,
Me and Murano just spoke on this… Who is leading and who is being led. I’ve seen guys walking with a chica, but the chica is in front holding him by the hand walking him to his hotel( similar to a child walking behind his mother)…

Now today I read a post where dude said that 6000 for ST is the going rate in the casino.. My question how does he know this?

1. Did one of his so called amigas tell him this?

2. Did he round up all the chicas and conduct a survey?

3. Or was this the price all the girls he approached,
quoted him, after he gave them the lead by asking how much?
WHAT post said a guy paid 6000 ST, I did not see it.
I did not say he said he paid that… (even though I believe he did)..I said he said that’s the going rate the girls are asking in the casino..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 26, 2023, 07:37:42 PM
Dont fall for the okey-doke.   Chicks with that mentality dont distinguish one man from another.  He can be  perceived as a pretender , or he can have serious intentions.   Makes no difference.  Their treatment of a man will be exactly the same.  To treat him as a mule or a tool.    The contempt for a man is the driving force and it's already the default setting in those women. 

They dont have contempt simply due to detecting pretense.  Their contempt comes from them innately knowing that they havent done anything to deserve the attention and benefits these men are willing to give them, UNEARNED.   Thats why they dont respect them.   Hanging on some dudes boat doesnt change what she is with him for.   With a black guy or a white guy,  acting and tolerating comes natural to enough women.   

And IMO the chick in that video was simply playing a role in exchange for whatever he gave her for being with him. 

   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 26, 2023, 07:47:29 PM
"sitting in places" this right here!!!!

I don't get it, is the average girl not allowed in? Has Merengue and New Garden been told no chicas allowed?  Some are in Rhumba, but committing to a dinner table, I don't like it in there.

City Lights has reopened and it's nice. I am way more likely to walk around and to take the time to chat to a girl in there than one standing outside Montreal. Ok... I will NEVER chat to a girl outside Montreal. But they are not going into City Lights!!!

Why?
I can speculate :  During the day,  all kinds of things may be going on with chicas.  Some still sleeping or chilling indoors, some wifed up or having a morning session, some having breakfast and about to be dismissed by their client.  Some preparing to head to WU or to the bank to make a deposit/withdrawal or exchange money.   Some actually on a moto in transit to head home, or to see another client. 

By early afternoon, enough chicas are ready to hit the streets looking for work, and/or looking for a cheap place to have lunch.   That could be on the strip, on the beach, or with some dude that stops them and gets them to join him.  Some chicks may have early appts to see a client. 

By mid afternoon while Kings, Merengue , Chez Montreal and every bar in town is open, chicks are not going in these places because there are little to no guys in there to hire them. Back before Davids Plaza was open, David had the old High Society open.   He had food, and he had drinks.  He offered a free drink to the chicks as an incentive to come there. 

That lasted a few visits.  The chicks would come in and get their free drink and walk the f--k out.  No clients, no takers, no business.  Part of it has something to do with the reasons were talking about.  A lot of these chicks vibe does not inspire guys to hire them Johnny on the spot.  Them chicks have that thirsty hood rat vibe.  "Hey you, Im looking for work,  Which one of you sons a bitches is ready to hire me"?  "Lets get going, I aint got all day"   

To top it off, they are usually parading around in groups, like a mob of classless chicks.    That doesnt inspire some guys either.   Chicks dont realize that sometimes guys have feelings.  They have standards too.  They need to be stimulated.  Incentivized.   

My point here is, many of this generation of chicks do not have the style of chicks from years past.      These chicks ( IMO ) seem to lack class and home training as a collective.   Sitting comfortably at a venue for enough of them is a time waster.  Especially when they perceive that they may be missing out on all of the guys that are out and about.

Take the "big circle".  Chicks not at the beach in the day time, will walk around the strip, circle around past every hotel and restaurant, and back around to PC.  Covering a lot of ground, and bumping into guys in the process.   Exchanging numbers while on patrol.   Sitting up in Kings, Merengue, and other bars doesnt get the same results.   

Plus it puts many of them in the position of possibly having to spend their own money on food and drink while being bored waiting for "quality/dime" male customers to engage.  LOL.   Many of them may go hungry or thirsty before spending their own money mid to late afternoon before making any money. 

Enough cats are not ready for day time action as well.  So it serves little purpose for them to sit down somewhere with nobody ready to take them out to go smash.   And that can happen all day up until the early evening for some chicks.   Including the chicks posted up at Bailee's.  Oh they exchange numbers, but some cats are there to eat, enjoy the sights.  Grab some numbers and bounce.  Maybe 30% to 50% of the time, a chica in Bailee's may be actually leaving with a guy to smash.  Meanwhile dozens of others are getting no work, just attention.

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.

That attitude bemuses me. Sitting around waiting on some chick to choose you is either a sign that you don't have the balls to approach a chick or that you don't give a damn about the type of chick that you're f--king. It could also be that you don't have the desire to have sex at that time, which is something I find myself guilty of from time to time, however, when I'm in that state of mind I'm not waiting on a chick to choose me. I simply don't want to be bothered other than possibly exchanging numbers.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 26, 2023, 07:59:32 PM

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.
Thats a reality that does exist for enough guys.   Too bad we dont have stats for the guys who represent themselves better than those guys.   They exist too, but how and when do they get acknowledgement for handling their business with these chicas better than the other guys?   

@Bat man,
Me and Murano just spoke on this… Who is leading and who is being led. I’ve seen guys walking with a chica, but the chica is in front holding him by the hand walking him to his hotel( similar to a child walking behind his mother)…

Now today I read a post where dude said that 6000 for ST is the going rate in the casino.. My question how does he know this?

1. Did one of his so called amigas tell him this?

2. Did he round up all the chicas and conduct a survey?

3. Or was this the price all the girls he approached,
quoted him, after he gave them the lead by asking how much?

Might I be that guy? Maybe not, because I did not write that 6,000 ST was the going rate in the casino. What I wrote was that there are more than a few guys paying the amount. I've never paid that amount. I was quoted that amount a few times during my recent stay and the dismissive manner at the way my attempts to negotiate were address I could only conclude that type of price quote was getting accepted more often that I would have suspected. There was a time where they were uncomfortable pressing for foolish amounts. That no longer appears to be the case so what that shows me is that those crazy numbers are now starting to be accepted.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 08:18:44 PM
Jazzy sure a chica would give you flack when you blew her price off. Just part of the game, chicas hope that if you hear that price long enough you will pay it. They all in on the scam. The way I look at is, if I give a chica what she could make in 2 days at a real job, for hour an hour of her time, it's fare!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 26, 2023, 08:27:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN

Ill acknowledge that a lot of blk brothers that visit the DR (particularly sosua) ain’t moving right. But it is unfair and inaccurate to generalize all blk men as ghetto just as it would be unfair to generalize all dominican women as chapis. That would be like someone visiting the US for the first time, going to Las Vegas and thinking the entire country is a casino…

As far as that dominicana in the YouTube video is concerned, she’s inadvertently reveals her own racist beliefs by the way she compares and generalizes blk and white men. At around the 5 minute mark, She even remarks that when she encounters blk men that proclaim their affection for dominicanas, she encourages them to visit the DR so that they can get taken advantage of economically by the local women. I don’t think she realizes that she is further pushing the stereotype of Dr women being chapis by saying that.
I finally watched the video.  I concur with your assessment.  Moreover, you can find Dominican men in this country that have openly complained about some of their own women.  Like enough of them are money hungry.  Never satisfied.    And always thinks a man is supposed to just spring into action and start providing resources and money the moment the man expresses liking the lady. 

Dominican women have a high percentage of having children by men that have no plans of being a father full time to support the kids.  A practice all too common in the DR, that foreign men are all too familiar with.

I think that chicks POV is just one way for Dominican chicks to conveniently sweep under the rug how f--ked up their position is in life.  And how many of them dont really bring anything to the table, except drama and baggage.

By the time any man ( local or foreigner ) steps to enough DR chicks, she's already got too much responsibility that she expects some man to take on.      Just like the 27 yr old DC Cupid chick in my other thread, looking for a guy from the US.   

Later in the video, the guy in the video made some generalizations about women in the DR appreciating men who are doing xyz.  Brother must not have studied female nature before, especially in relation to men.   I'd like to know what mechanism or attribute do DR women supposedly have that makes them more appreciative towards foreign man doing their thing as opposed to appreciating their own men doing likewise?
OMG, I have finally realized something. Murano you are a women!! It all makes sense now, how did I miss it?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on January 26, 2023, 08:49:01 PM
Jazzy sure a chica would give you flack when you blew her price off. Just part of the game, chicas hope that if you hear that price long enough you will pay it. They all in on the scam. The way I look at is, if I give a chica what she could make in 2 days at a real job, for hour an hour of her time, it's fare!

I didn't say I was given flack. What I got in response to my "estas loca" was this look that I interpreted as "that's my price. If you want me you pay it". I chose to walk.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 26, 2023, 09:13:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN

Ill acknowledge that a lot of blk brothers that visit the DR (particularly sosua) ain’t moving right. But it is unfair and inaccurate to generalize all blk men as ghetto just as it would be unfair to generalize all dominican women as chapis. That would be like someone visiting the US for the first time, going to Las Vegas and thinking the entire country is a casino…

As far as that dominicana in the YouTube video is concerned, she’s inadvertently reveals her own racist beliefs by the way she compares and generalizes blk and white men. At around the 5 minute mark, She even remarks that when she encounters blk men that proclaim their affection for dominicanas, she encourages them to visit the DR so that they can get taken advantage of economically by the local women. I don’t think she realizes that she is further pushing the stereotype of Dr women being chapis by saying that.

That Dominicana is just saying what the content creator and her subs want to hear. A lot of people are shitting on the "passport bros".

First of all Dominicans dont look at race in the stark forms that we do in the states with our one drop rules.

Second of all like a Dominicana in Sosua really gives a f--k about what any monger thinks outside of getting pesos out of them. I really doubt that even the dumbest dub dub is waxing poetic about Dominican women while shitting on american women. Your average dub dub with 12 trips a year for the least 12 years probably doesn't know what Sancocho is and doesn't speak a word of Spanish yet they're telling them about US "sex prisions" and the bitch C.O.'s who controll them?

Not likely
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 26, 2023, 09:21:12 PM
"sitting in places" this right here!!!!

I don't get it, is the average girl not allowed in? Has Merengue and New Garden been told no chicas allowed?  Some are in Rhumba, but committing to a dinner table, I don't like it in there.

City Lights has reopened and it's nice. I am way more likely to walk around and to take the time to chat to a girl in there than one standing outside Montreal. Ok... I will NEVER chat to a girl outside Montreal. But they are not going into City Lights!!!

Why?
I can speculate :  During the day,  all kinds of things may be going on with chicas.  Some still sleeping or chilling indoors, some wifed up or having a morning session, some having breakfast and about to be dismissed by their client.  Some preparing to head to WU or to the bank to make a deposit/withdrawal or exchange money.   Some actually on a moto in transit to head home, or to see another client. 

By early afternoon, enough chicas are ready to hit the streets looking for work, and/or looking for a cheap place to have lunch.   That could be on the strip, on the beach, or with some dude that stops them and gets them to join him.  Some chicks may have early appts to see a client. 

By mid afternoon while Kings, Merengue , Chez Montreal and every bar in town is open, chicks are not going in these places because there are little to no guys in there to hire them. Back before Davids Plaza was open, David had the old High Society open.   He had food, and he had drinks.  He offered a free drink to the chicks as an incentive to come there. 

That lasted a few visits.  The chicks would come in and get their free drink and walk the f--k out.  No clients, no takers, no business.  Part of it has something to do with the reasons were talking about.  A lot of these chicks vibe does not inspire guys to hire them Johnny on the spot.  Them chicks have that thirsty hood rat vibe.  "Hey you, Im looking for work,  Which one of you sons a bitches is ready to hire me"?  "Lets get going, I aint got all day"   

To top it off, they are usually parading around in groups, like a mob of classless chicks.    That doesnt inspire some guys either.   Chicks dont realize that sometimes guys have feelings.  They have standards too.  They need to be stimulated.  Incentivized.   

My point here is, many of this generation of chicks do not have the style of chicks from years past.      These chicks ( IMO ) seem to lack class and home training as a collective.   Sitting comfortably at a venue for enough of them is a time waster.  Especially when they perceive that they may be missing out on all of the guys that are out and about.

Take the "big circle".  Chicks not at the beach in the day time, will walk around the strip, circle around past every hotel and restaurant, and back around to PC.  Covering a lot of ground, and bumping into guys in the process.   Exchanging numbers while on patrol.   Sitting up in Kings, Merengue, and other bars doesnt get the same results.   

Plus it puts many of them in the position of possibly having to spend their own money on food and drink while being bored waiting for "quality/dime" male customers to engage.  LOL.   Many of them may go hungry or thirsty before spending their own money mid to late afternoon before making any money. 

Enough cats are not ready for day time action as well.  So it serves little purpose for them to sit down somewhere with nobody ready to take them out to go smash.   And that can happen all day up until the early evening for some chicks.   Including the chicks posted up at Bailee's.  Oh they exchange numbers, but some cats are there to eat, enjoy the sights.  Grab some numbers and bounce.  Maybe 30% to 50% of the time, a chica in Bailee's may be actually leaving with a guy to smash.  Meanwhile dozens of others are getting no work, just attention.

I notice that a lot of guys want click and point meaning they want a chica to pick them out of crowd and lead the whole situation. That's the reason why dudes are paying sky high rates all the chica has to do is to smile at him, flirt , engage in a little chit chat and lead the dude back to his room. The delusion bubble pops when she quoted him 200 dollars for ST.

That attitude bemuses me. Sitting around waiting on some chick to choose you is either a sign that you don't have the balls to approach a chick or that you don't give a damn about the type of chick that you're f--king. It could also be that you don't have the desire to have sex at that time, which is something I find myself guilty of from time to time, however, when I'm in that state of mind I'm not waiting on a chick to choose me. I simply don't want to be bothered other than possibly exchanging numbers.

There's a lot of f--ked up incellish dudes out here. Then there's a Black Older cats The guy I saw being led by a woman is actually Afro Latino (not from the DR or Colombia) I could imagine him growing up with zero representation and putting lightskins on a pedestal.

As  for Young guys who saw a Black President get elected They don't have that excuse. Other than being beat down by the Gynocracy in the west I can't see why dudes would be intimidated by hookers.

I Have more respect for the Dub dub 3 happy hour a day sportsf--ker at least they take the bull by the horns like Men are supposed to do.

The Pussification of the west continues.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 26, 2023, 09:25:37 PM
For me, the positives of living in Sosua far outweigh any downfall or demise that others may be experiencing.   One of the main benefits I value by living here, is that I am not tethered to Sosua as if Im stuck in some sort of rut.   As if Sosua is the only place in the world I see value in.   I believe my perspective is that of an ordinary expat, not like someone on a timed vacation that has to get it in, or feel they have wasted their time and money on poor quality.   

Do you randomly stop in little towns and pick up different chicks?  The DR is a relatively compact country and the roads are better than in Jamaica.
One thing I notice is nice well appointed Cabanas/ Love Hotels are all over the place you drive outside of any sized town and there's at least one, and I have been given The Look in roadside colmados all over the Island
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 27, 2023, 05:41:31 AM

Do you randomly stop in little towns and pick up different chicks? 
No I dont.  Living here with an abundance, including having regulars here and abroad, my need or desire to pick up chicks while in transit is lying dormant.   My goal is usually to get to where Im going, and get back to Sosua safely and off the road.   But it's always been nice to know, that being able to pick up chicks while in transit is possible. 




 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on January 27, 2023, 10:47:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN.

I have the least respect for Dominican women anyway.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 27, 2023, 03:26:40 PM

Do you randomly stop in little towns and pick up different chicks? 
No I dont.  Living here with an abundance, including having regulars here and abroad, my need or desire to pick up chicks while in transit is lying dormant.   My goal is usually to get to where Im going, and get back to Sosua safely and off the road.   But it's always been nice to know, that being able to pick up chicks while in transit is possible.

I guess if you stopped in say Miches on your way to Punta Cana that would make for a long trip LOL.

What I mean is do you have hoes in different area codes in the DR so to speak?  Like if you happened to go to Bani do you have booty in Bani?

How do you manage your international rotations? I have some regulars that I keep in contact with that don't send RFM
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 27, 2023, 04:34:34 PM

Do you randomly stop in little towns and pick up different chicks? 
No I dont.  Living here with an abundance, including having regulars here and abroad, my need or desire to pick up chicks while in transit is lying dormant.   My goal is usually to get to where Im going, and get back to Sosua safely and off the road.   But it's always been nice to know, that being able to pick up chicks while in transit is possible.

I guess if you stopped in say Miches on your way to Punta Cana that would make for a long trip LOL.

What I mean is do you have hoes in different area codes in the DR so to speak?  Like if you happened to go to Bani do you have booty in Bani?

How do you manage your international rotations? I have some regulars that I keep in contact with that don't send RFM
If you are counting DR women I had but arent seeing regularly or none at all, then yeah I know a few.   But these days, I dont travel within the DR to go see any chicks.  Thats a major waste of time and it's unnecessary.   The last time I actually went to visit a chick, was back in 2016.   A chick that lived in San Francisco De Marcoris.      After that trip , I said I wont ever drive to go see a chick again. 

Most of my regulars Ive encountered in the early years, were chicks I met in Sosua.  Freelancers ( part time and full time ), DC chicks, Hookups through friends.   Over the years regulars come and they go.   Some that live in the area are always down to make some money.   Dont need or want a GF. 

Makes it easier when it's time to travel.   I have the same setup when I go to stay in my other place.  Chicks that I have a rapport with.  Freelancers as well as chicks with jobs.  I consider them PRETEND Girlfriends.   When any of the chicks I mess with have moved on or are unavailable,  I dont trip.   Wherever I am, Im in a pussy rich environment.  And when Im not engaged, I enjoy taking a break from pursuing or entertaining women.   I value connecting with my friends and acquaintances just as much, probably moreso.

No RFM's or WU.   I used to have one pretend GF in the DR that I didnt mind buying stuff for that she needed rather than pay her in cash.  I dont have anybody like that anymore.   I dont get into their business.  Whatever they earn, it's up to them to take care of their own needs.   

In my other place abroad, I have done the same thing with them.  Sometimes buy them stuff, in lieu of cash.  Like groceries, clothes etc.  But the difference is, these chicks are putting in work outside of the bedroom, so they deserve the extra I blessed them with. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on January 27, 2023, 09:45:01 PM
Not to change the subject radically, but to revisit a topic touched upon earlier in the thread; if the info in this article at the link below can be relied upon, then at least some of the surgically altered chicas may be doing their foot patrol blithely unaware of the risks they took on, or possibly were aware, but just didn't care:
https://people.com/health/butt-implants-linked-deadly-cancer/
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on January 28, 2023, 09:27:17 AM
Ah Reminds me of the fake docters doing half ass face lifts and tummy tucks back in the states.Chicas must be paying out big bucks for ass and boob upgrades or should i say the WU cpatains trying to save them,,,,think there are a lot of unhealthy habbi9ts these chicas have drinking every day drugs  weed not so bad, eating bad food . getting pounded  high life time dick count .funny a few hoes i have known in the past 7 years they were hot sexy in shape, now fat ragged worn out street look,, may not be bad as your haggard druggie street hoes back in the states.but this hard life takes its toll ! be safe sirs !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on January 28, 2023, 11:13:59 AM
Yeah... There's certainly lots of visual reminders that it's a gig that comes with a high burnout rate and an environment that's rich in easily accessible occupational hazards (drugs, alcohol, bad food, as you mentioned), which after a while are perceived as "creature comforts" employed for a sort of escapism.

With the butt augmentation thing, it seems to be a they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't type of thing:

It's either they're young and too slim to show voluptuous curves in the process of emulating the J-lo's and Kim Kardashian's of the world, so the solution way is to get potentially deadly silicone implants, or they wait until they are burned out and got enough fat around the middle for a fat transfer to the butt, but then they look too worn out for that brazilian butt lift to have much of a positive impact in the overall looks department that can take them to a significant next level earnings increase wise.

I have been with one that had fat transfers done to her butt and that was alright, it looked and felt natural. I do wonder just how the silicone implants feel to the touch when actually engaging with a chica that has one, and whether it looks and feels unnatural in the nude to the point that it can actually take away from the man's experience and actually be a turn off. Shallow observation I know, but hey, regardless of how amicable they may come across to me, I know that to them, I'm just a hard dick with a few USD wrapped around it for them to unveil.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on January 28, 2023, 12:51:48 PM
Ah Reminds me of the fake docters doing half ass face lifts and tummy tucks back in the states.Chicas must be paying out big bucks for ass and boob upgrades or should i say the WU cpatains trying to save them,,,,think there are a lot of unhealthy habbi9ts these chicas have drinking every day drugs  weed not so bad, eating bad food . getting pounded  high life time dick count .funny a few hoes i have known in the past 7 years they were hot sexy in shape, now fat ragged worn out street look,, may not be bad as your haggard druggie street hoes back in the states.but this hard life takes its toll ! be safe sirs !

Even women will tell you that too much dick or even dick that has too much pussy upsets their PH balance,

It seems like women can take only so much dick before it f--ks up their minds and bodies.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on January 28, 2023, 03:17:55 PM
Now there's an example of chicas not lying.
Too much dick causing bad toto ph.
Looked it up.
https://www.bboutique.co/blog/942/vaginal-ph-what-it-is-and-how-to-keep-it-groovy
So much for sticking johnson in without a raincoat, specially as a monger partaking in toto timeshares...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on January 28, 2023, 05:27:47 PM
Now there's an example of chicas not lying.
Too much dick causing bad toto ph.
Looked it up.
https://www.bboutique.co/blog/942/vaginal-ph-what-it-is-and-how-to-keep-it-groovy
So much for sticking johnson in without a raincoat, specially as a monger partaking in toto timeshares...
WOW, who would have thought it, bad pussy PH messes with them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on January 31, 2023, 10:26:10 AM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 01, 2023, 12:23:00 AM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about.

Sosua will always be Sosua,

I just thought of why the DR government doesn't move against the creep cammers.  Think about it I saw in a Cuba Dave video where they were talking about cleaning up Sosua people would take that to mean the end of "mixed tourism" . No matter what is said about the partial closure of the beach shacks as long as some goofball is pointing his Iphone 6 at some girls butt on PC Sosua will always be Sosua.

I too expect a gangbusters Superbowl weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on February 01, 2023, 08:01:25 AM
I'm also interested to see what turn out for Superbowl is going to be was there last year and didn't notice much difference than say Halloween weekend more dudes sure but not much new talent in town. Got a buddy in town now so I'll get some good feedback on it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 01, 2023, 08:35:45 AM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about.

Was it some type of tour group?
My last trip a saw a tour bus riding around town with mostly white people staring out the windows.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 01, 2023, 09:03:59 AM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about.

Was it some type of tour group?
My last trip a saw a tour bus riding around town with mostly white people staring out the windows.

Nah... Just plenty wipipo everywhere. Takes one to know one. Jolly Roger packed everyday, Smileys packed most nights (usually walk right past if there is live music, but two weekends ago they had some really good bands). The spot down the road from the banks, packed... And I happened to go to the restaurant at Casa Linda on a Wednesday when they have music... Not a seat open.

Revenge tourism, snowbirds and retirees seem to be the majority. Demographic definitely 55 plus.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 01, 2023, 12:29:12 PM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about.

Was it some type of tour group?
My last trip a saw a tour bus riding around town with mostly white people staring out the windows.
Gee IDK?  But it looked like several Westjet planes must have landed in the last few days.   At Super Pola yesterday,  I saw the same demographic in there shopping ( like I did in the Playero ).   Lots of people walking with groceries.  Every day. 

BTW the exchange rate was 56 to 1 USD outside of Caribe Express.  I dont keep up with Canadian currency.    Passed by Cheers and Plan B, FULL of the usual demographic.  Some are known Canadians, others are Americans I know.   In the last few weeks of me being back,  Ive noticed a blend of folks in Cheers.   Mostly white folks but a few black guys in there.  They have a happy hour there from 2 to 6pm.   They have food, Dominican and Haitian waitresses.   They have a pool table in the back.   The owner is black.  Good for him.  He's provided a venue anybody can come to enjoy.  A much much better attitude and friendlier than that guy that owned Rancho Tipico a few years ago.   

Im told, the last former owner of Cheers is a Haitian dude, that supposedly owns the bar across the street from Cheers.   Mostly white folks in there.   So IMO,  everybody thats coming to Sosua is represented and has options.   Families, mongers, expats, tourists, and investors.   

I say investors, because I keep running into people that want to have a business in Sosua.   It doesnt matter all of the others that have failed, some people have a lot of ambition.   And they need to find out the only way they know how.   Some who do start a business are barely here to run it.  Instead they rely on locals to run it for them.  Which IMO, is a bad move.   Even an honest local cant protect your interests as well as the owner needs to.    Me?  Im content just being retired. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 01, 2023, 12:47:11 PM
I did talk to a few Canadian guys at various times in the past.  I believe this time of year is ideal for Canadians to travel and leave Canada.  Then return to Canada within 6 months.  Mainly because they cant be gone more than 6 months or they may forfeit their free healthcare.  Or at least be penalized before being reinstated.  Also, by the time 6 months has elapsed, it should be spring like weather creeping in.   

Please correct me on details I have got wrong or misunderstood. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 01, 2023, 01:28:33 PM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about.

Was it some type of tour group?
My last trip a saw a tour bus riding around town with mostly white people staring out the windows.
Gee IDK?  But it looked like several Westjet planes must have landed in the last few days.   At Super Pola yesterday,  I saw the same demographic in there shopping ( like I did in the Playero ).   Lots of people walking with groceries.  Every day. 

BTW the exchange rate was 56 to 1 USD outside of Caribe Express.  I dont keep up with Canadian currency.    Passed by Cheers and Plan B, FULL of the usual demographic.  Some are known Canadians, others are Americans I know.   In the last few weeks of me being back,  Ive noticed a blend of folks in Cheers.   Mostly white folks but a few black guys in there.  They have a happy hour there from 2 to 6pm.   They have food, Dominican and Haitian waitresses.   They have a pool table in the back.   The owner is black.  Good for him.  He's provided a venue anybody can come to enjoy.  A much much better attitude and friendlier than that guy that owned Rancho Tipico a few years ago.   

Im told, the last former owner of Cheers is a Haitian dude, that supposedly owns the bar across the street from Cheers.   Mostly white folks in there.   So IMO,  everybody thats coming to Sosua is represented and has options.   Families, mongers, expats, tourists, and investors.   

I say investors, because I keep running into people that want to have a business in Sosua.   It doesnt matter all of the others that have failed, some people have a lot of ambition.   And they need to find out the only way they know how.   Some who do start a business are barely here to run it.  Instead they rely on locals to run it for them.  Which IMO, is a bad move.   Even an honest local cant protect your interests as well as the owner needs to.    Me?  Im content just being retired.
been down here since Dec 13 th. yes alot of folks in town   jolly roger full of white folks meteos a good crowd some of the smaller donimican spots not so much.  As far as weekend  Roller not to many new york guys   goibg to ve a busy month superbowl and folks hust here on vacation snow birds mongers vacationers ect. Seems like the high air line tickets are no affect on dolks booking vacations in the DR ! Have Fun !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 01, 2023, 03:44:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6z2b4MnB0

Your Thoughts Guys?
I knew in general that DR. women are all looking to get their "lick in" form gringos and from chicas I am close with that they over charge black men or avoid them completely. Granted the number of DR' women I know personally is less than 10, but their opinions reinforce my own observations. Men from any may be no class, but you can't be ghetto and earn respect with DR. WOMEN.

I have the least respect for Dominican women anyway.

Tex, I assume you only stay a few days at a time. Staying a few months at at time requires more finesse.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 01, 2023, 04:01:31 PM
January 31, 2023  10:30am

Playero parking lot was full.  Went in the store, and each checkout line was full.   Mostly white folks.  Looks like a blend of tourists,expats and snowbirds.   I thought I'd see more black dudes shopping today, but no.   I guess the Playero and Super Pola will see a lot more shoppers the closer we get to Super Bowl week.

Im still noticing more and more single guys filling up the town.  I guess these guys have accepted Sosuas downfall/demise?   I wouldnt be surprised if Ive seen a few TMBTS board members in Sosua out and about.

Was it some type of tour group?
My last trip a saw a tour bus riding around town with mostly white people staring out the windows.

Nah... Just plenty wipipo everywhere. Takes one to know one. Jolly Roger packed everyday, Smileys packed most nights (usually walk right past if there is live music, but two weekends ago they had some really good bands). The spot down the road from the banks, packed... And I happened to go to the restaurant at Casa Linda on a Wednesday when they have music... Not a seat open.

Revenge tourism, snowbirds and retirees seem to be the majority. Demographic definitely 55 plus.
LOLOL, Revenge of the Canadians, us old farts like to party, LOL.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 01, 2023, 04:18:02 PM
been down here since Dec 13 th. yes alot of folks in town   jolly roger full of white folks meteos a good crowd some of the smaller donimican spots not so much.  As far as weekend  Roller not to many new york guys   goibg to ve a busy month superbowl and folks hust here on vacation snow birds mongers vacationers ect. Seems like the high air line tickets are no affect on dolks booking vacations in the DR ! Have Fun !
Tug besides New Yorkers, what other states do you know of where guys come to Sosua?  Especially black guys?   Point being, How does one know guys are New Yorkers until you actually ask them?  What about all of the other guys from the other states that come to Sosua?   How do you identify them?   Are they also New Yorkers too?    Or do you block them out as if they dont exist?

Even when it comes to white folks.  I know that every white person I see in the last few days is not automatically from Canada, just because I see more of them here recently.  Right now in Jolly Rogers, Plan B, Cheers, and The German Bar next to Bar Central, I know several guys there that happen to be from Canada, and a handful from the US.   Some are expats and snowbirds.   All pleasant chaps. 

So when I hear or read about people identifying certain guys as them being New Yorkers it sort of makes me wonder what is behind that assumption?  And for the record, I dont hear or read that coming from white guys only.  I hear/read enough black guys saying the same thing. 

Judging them by how they look, dressed or maybe their ethnicity.  And sometimes by certain behavior.     A lot of guys dress and manifest similar behavior from all over the world.   

I got a old regular that always asks me how is my family in New York.   I never confirmed to her where I used to live.  But since New York is the only thing she relates to,  I dont even bother.  New York it is.    What I have done, is when I am in good company I actually ask a person where are you from. 

The Canadians Ive conversed with recently have been way west close to the Washington Border.   A few times I have mistakenly assumed a person was from Canada, only to find out they were from the US.  No identifiers.  Sure I think I can tell some Canadians from Americans.   I can even tell some New Yorkers when I see and hear them.   But the best way to know where people are from and be sure,  is to ask them.   

Not all New Yorkers represent a certain look , dress or manifest a certain behavior.   And they definitely dont represent only one race or ethnicity.   Same with Canadians or any other folks that come to Sosua.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 01, 2023, 05:44:34 PM
Yeah it is strange that some Americans in the Northwest talk like Canadians. Met a guy at the condo pool from Oregon, Nov. It took a minute to hear it but I knew he was American.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on February 01, 2023, 06:59:13 PM
I am Cuban born, lived my childhood there, grew up in the Chicago 'burbs, and I have had people throughout the years tell me I have a northeastern U.S. inflection in my voice, even though I grew up in the midwest. In my earlier life, I've had Greek moms try to set me up with their daughters, Puerto Rican moms with theirs, and one of my college teachers swore he thought I was Yugoslavian. A chica that was pitching herself to me at King's once asked me why I spoke like a "little Spaniard". To Murano's point, we're really not that easy to place, I guess. We can be dismissed just based on what someone erroneously perceives us as being.

When I vacation in Sosua, I seem to get much more attention from lighter skinned chicas than the darker skinned toned ones. I'm thinking the latter take one look at me and see a white guy of uncertain origin with white skin and a shaved head and think to themselves "racist neonazi - AVOID!"

If that's true in any case, then I'm at a very unfair disadvantage, as Sosua is filled with darker lovelies and I don't write off a chica based on skin tone, nor am I a racist or neonazi. I do discriminate on the basis of how non-mercenary the chica is in her disposition/demeanor, placing more value on that over her overall physical appearance.

Just for fun, when DNA testing to determine one's percentage breakdown of gene ethnicity origins became a fad, I would tell people that my DNA test results came back 100% Earthling genes, and that I was very relieved to find out because all my life I was convinced I was from Uranus (yeah, that one, the one you're thinking about). At the end of the day, we're all made on, and from, stuff contained on the same rock floating in space.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on February 01, 2023, 11:45:44 PM
Tex, I assume you only stay a few days at a time. Staying a few months at at time requires more finesse.

I've lived in Sosua off and on for about 3 years, but I admit I do not venture outside of Sosua very much.

I'm speaking on their women outside of DR as well. I go to St. Thomas, the DR women there are known to be mostly hoes.

Here in NYC, they are the least represented in business outside of strip clubs and bodegas. They seem to be on that same ole come up through selling pussy. Haitian women come here and do waaaay better.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jett on February 02, 2023, 12:11:34 AM
been down here since Dec 13 th. yes alot of folks in town   jolly roger full of white folks meteos a good crowd some of the smaller donimican spots not so much.  As far as weekend  Roller not to many new york guys   goibg to ve a busy month superbowl and folks hust here on vacation snow birds mongers vacationers ect. Seems like the high air line tickets are no affect on dolks booking vacations in the DR ! Have Fun !
Tug besides New Yorkers, what other states do you know of where guys come to Sosua?  Especially black guys?   Point being, How does one know guys are New Yorkers until you actually ask them?  What about all of the other guys from the other states that come to Sosua?   How do you identify them?   Are they also New Yorkers too?    Or do you block them out as if they dont exist?

Even when it comes to white folks.  I know that every white person I see in the last few days is not automatically from Canada, just because I see more of them here recently.  Right now in Jolly Rogers, Plan B, Cheers, and The German Bar next to Bar Central, I know several guys there that happen to be from Canada, and a handful from the US.   Some are expats and snowbirds.   All pleasant chaps. 

So when I hear or read about people identifying certain guys as them being New Yorkers it sort of makes me wonder what is behind that assumption?  And for the record, I dont hear or read that coming from white guys only.  I hear/read enough black guys saying the same thing. 

Judging them by how they look, dressed or maybe their ethnicity.  And sometimes by certain behavior.     A lot of guys dress and manifest similar behavior from all over the world.   

I got a old regular that always asks me how is my family in New York.   I never confirmed to her where I used to live.  But since New York is the only thing she relates to,  I dont even bother.  New York it is.    What I have done, is when I am in good company I actually ask a person where are you from. 

The Canadians Ive conversed with recently have been way west close to the Washington Border.   A few times I have mistakenly assumed a person was from Canada, only to find out they were from the US.  No identifiers.  Sure I think I can tell some Canadians from Americans.   I can even tell some New Yorkers when I see and hear them.   But the best way to know where people are from and be sure,  is to ask them.   

Not all New Yorkers represent a certain look , dress or manifest a certain behavior.   And they definitely dont represent only one race or ethnicity.   Same with Canadians or any other folks that come to Sosua.

This made me chuckle a bit, Murano. Why? Because I can usually spot other black dudes from New York fairly easily. Granted, I'm not always spot on but when I'm wrong it's because I find out that they're either from New Jersey or in rare instances, the DMV (DC, Maryland, Virginia) area.

Being from California, I find that New York guys aren't hard to identify. Sure, the Yankee fitted baseball caps are a no-brainer. However, one of the easiest ways to spot a New Yorker is their gait. New Yorkers(particularly black men) don't seem to walk; they plod. They move as if their body is too difficult to manage. Young or old seem to be inflicted with this manner of moving and I don't know why. It's difficult to explain. You have to watch people and observe. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Many New York guys speak louder than other Americans for some odd reason(which is saying something because Americans as a whole are arguably the loudest foreigners anywhere). I don't know if it's to draw attention to themselves as some seem to believe. I just think that New York is a competitive place and if one wishes to be heard then he/she must speak with resoluteness and brevity.

Lastly, I think what makes a New Yorker easy to identify if that they...

MUST tell you within 1 minute of initial introduction that they're from New York. (Try this it really works!)

EVERY New Yorker will tell you that they're from New York whether you asked them or not. I find this highly annoying as a a traveler/monger. I spoken to enough New Yorkers to come away with the impression that they know very little or care to know anything west of the Hudson. Anything outside of the major metro New York area is "out there" and should be explored; but not by them. After all, why leave when nobody can make a better pizza than Don Antonio's? To many New Yorkers I've spoken to, the City is literally the center of the known universe. All else might as well be from Mars or some other distant planet within our solar system. Look what's going on in Sosua/DR. These bro's act like they discovered the island like Christopher Columbus. The DR has been there the whole time and it wasn't really until a few years ago that that crowd decided to crash Sosua for 3 day weekends. All hail to JetBlue ("New York's official airline).

So I find it humorous as a black guy when I'm asked where I'm from and I cheerfully say, "I'm from San Diego, California". The look on the New York faces is absolutely priceless and worth the price of admission every time. After the blank stare that seems to drag on for an eternity, I'm then asked, "So do they have good pizza 'out there'?"

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on February 02, 2023, 01:44:20 AM
I did talk to a few Canadian guys at various times in the past.  I believe this time of year is ideal for Canadians to travel and leave Canada.  Then return to Canada within 6 months.  Mainly because they cant be gone more than 6 months or they may forfeit their free healthcare.  Or at least be penalized before being reinstated.  Also, by the time 6 months has elapsed, it should be spring like weather creeping in.   

Please correct me on details I have got wrong or misunderstood.

I can only speak of how healthcare works in Ontario because I live in Toronto.  In Ontario the health care plan is called OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan). We pay taxes that pay into the plan.  Below is how living outside of of Canada for anyone who lives in Ontario.


“If you plan to be outside Canada for more than seven months in any 12-month period you can keep your OHIP coverage for up to two years”

 
https://www.ontario.ca/page/ohip-coverage-while-outside-canada#section-1
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 02, 2023, 05:55:13 AM

This made me chuckle a bit, Murano. Why? Because I can usually spot other black dudes from New York fairly easily. Granted, I'm not always spot on but when I'm wrong it's because I find out that they're either from New Jersey or in rare instances, the DMV (DC, Maryland, Virginia) area.

Being from California, I find that New York guys aren't hard to identify. Sure, the Yankee fitted baseball caps are a no-brainer. However, one of the easiest ways to spot a New Yorker is their gait. New Yorkers(particularly black men) don't seem to walk; they plod. They move as if their body is too difficult to manage. Young or old seem to be inflicted with this manner of moving and I don't know why. It's difficult to explain. You have to watch people and observe. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Many New York guys speak louder than other Americans for some odd reason(which is saying something because Americans as a whole are arguably the loudest foreigners anywhere). I don't know if it's to draw attention to themselves as some seem to believe. I just think that New York is a competitive place and if one wishes to be heard then he/she must speak with resoluteness and brevity.

Lastly, I think what makes a New Yorker easy to identify if that they...

MUST tell you within 1 minute of initial introduction that they're from New York. (Try this it really works!)

EVERY New Yorker will tell you that they're from New York whether you asked them or not. I find this highly annoying as a a traveler/monger. I spoken to enough New Yorkers to come away with the impression that they know very little or care to know anything west of the Hudson. Anything outside of the major metro New York area is "out there" and should be explored; but not by them. After all, why leave when nobody can make a better pizza than Don Antonio's? To many New Yorkers I've spoken to, the City is literally the center of the known universe. All else might as well be from Mars or some other distant planet within our solar system. Look what's going on in Sosua/DR. These bro's act like they discovered the island like Christopher Columbus. The DR has been there the whole time and it wasn't really until a few years ago that that crowd decided to crash Sosua for 3 day weekends. All hail to JetBlue ("New York's official airline).

So I find it humorous as a black guy when I'm asked where I'm from and I cheerfully say, "I'm from San Diego, California". The look on the New York faces is absolutely priceless and worth the price of admission every time. After the blank stare that seems to drag on for an eternity, I'm then asked, "So do they have good pizza 'out there'?"
Very informative breakdown.  So if I were to summarize what you have provided.  Enough individuals you have personally encountered, as well as others you may know experiencing the same thing, those individuals have made an impression of having certain characteristics that represents they may be from New York?  Or some of the other places you named nearby? 

TBH, I dont have a problem with that.  Mainly because some of what you said, I have observed as well in enough individuals.  Except for a few minor things.   Im a detail oriented person too.   Some of what I have observed.  Is that a lot of black guys between perhaps 20 and 60 look like men from almost any big city in the US.  Especially when they are dressed down casual.   And especially when they come to a place like Sosua.   

And many wear similar attire, many are proud to tell you where they are from when asked or not, have their own gait or swag.  And enough exhibit mannerisms, that usually assigned to New Yorkers.   Including appearing to not know or care much about anything outside of their own interests or awareness base.   

When it comes to encountering these individuals on vacation, the consumption of alcohol and/or drugs, and just by the mere excitement of being on vacation in "paradise" transforms enough men into whatever we see.  The ones that may be laid back,quiet or reserved are ignored or dont exist, and there is no accounting of their behavior or characteristics, and where they fit in ( in Sosua or anywhere in general ).   Thats telling in of itself.     Are there quiet, reserved, laid back guys in Sosua that come from New York?   How are they identified and distinguishable from the sterotypical New Yorker? 

One of the main distinctions that may help me identify where some cats may reside in the US, is their dialect or drawl, not so much what they are wearing.  Enunciation when speaking.  But when it comes to attitude and things you mentioned, I find that what you described is not isolated to only one region.  Not saying or assuming you implied that.   

It's just a matter of any individual being exposed to or encountering enough people to see where different people may share some similarities.  If one is limited to what and who they are exposed to, obviously their assessment or awareness of others may be limited or not considered. 

For example.  At the beach, there are group of guys that hang out at 64.   They have been coming for years.  They all travel to other places.  Colombia, Brazil, Thailand etc.   They will occupy several tables, bring their own liquor, and chasers.  They'll be loud, blasting hiphop, tatted up, smoking cigars and represent just about any stereotype that people use to identify them.  I happen to know where those cats are from.  California, Chicago, Baltimore, Houston, New York, Philly, ATL,Las Vegas etc.   

Now these are cats that know me, and I know them.  I dont hang with them because Im more laid back.  I dont drink like they do, and I dont like sitting with large groups of guys like that.   I cant listen to hard core hiphop and all of that loud talking and the rest of it.   To the average individual walking the beach seeing them, I'd bet money every one of those cats sitting at those tables would be identified as New Yorkers.   

Yup, look at them.  Loud, check.  Hip Hop blaring, check.  Looks like they are into their own world, check.  Some wearing caps or Jerseys, check.  Several Jetblue flights came in recently, check.   All we need to do is fill in the stereotypical blanks, and it's a done deal.   They are all New Yorkers.  IMHO, that is how enough New Yorkers are identified.  It does not matter if they are from New York or not. 

Nobody is going to take the time to distinguish who is from California, who is from Chicago, who sitting at the table is from the UK.  There will always be white guys and black guys who are going to identify whatever they observe by what makes it easier for them to separate themselves from what they have observed.   

"Me and the people I know arent like that"   My point is, in the proper setting, you can get just about any group of people together to exhibit the same mannerisms or characteristics.   Especially in a relaxed setting where they dont feel they are being judged by superficial criteria.   

Another thing Ive observed, is non New Yorkers wearing New York logo outfits and caps, even though they werent from NY.  Why?  One reason is, some cats just like certain NY teams and/or their attire.  The Yankees attire is pretty sharp.  Much of it looks good with blue jeans.  I can see why some cats would sport it even if they werent New Yorkers. 

Im not much of a jersey wearer. But I have had some attire that had colors of certain teams.  Or I have a non official jersey of a Cowboy player, and a Braves shirt.   Out in public it was common to get comments from guys assuming I was a fan or from the city where that jersey was from.   

Ive worn NYPD and NYFD tee shirts, and have been approached by people assuming I was a New Yorker that worked for the police or FD in NY.  They even thanked me for my service.   How wrong they were.  The thing is, there is a large margin of error, that some people may not allow in terms of their assessment and identification of people.

So how uncommon would it be for many individuals seeing someone wearing Yankee attire to assume right off the bat, that the person wearing it is NOT a New Yorker?   

No, you wear it, you must be connected to the place regardless of where you are from.  That is how many people process what they observe.    Even if one is not a New Yorker,  if you behave like what people perceive to be how a New Yorker behaves, you might as well be a New Yorker.   Especially when it comes to being black.  Rhetorical questions.    How does a white guy from New York typically behave?  What are the identifiers?    And if there are differences between how white guys and black guys represent themselves as a New Yorker what are they?

Anybody know Coach?  This dude is in his 60's, about 6' 7" wears baseball caps almost every day.  Sports jewelry, watches, and usually wearing sports attire.  One could easily assume he was a New Yorker by appearance alone.  But he's not.  He's from the midwest.   If one hears him talk they may hear a difference.   Ive been assumed to be from cities, not where Im originally from.  Why?   Because they say I dont sound or act like whats typical to them.   

I get that from both black folks and white folks.  All one has to do is multiply my experience by several hundred thousand.   Because there are a lot of people that dont represent themselves the way some people may perceive someone from a certain place behaves.   It was mentioned that some people have a certain look when they discover something doesnt fit.   

Ive seen the same thing when it comes to some finding out a person may be a New Yorker or from New York, but they dont recognize it.   If they dont see the typical stereotypes they believe fits, they're stunned or even baffled on why they didnt pick up on it.   And some I believe find it difficult to accept when enough folks dont manifest certain sterotypes.   

The big take away from my novel is this.  Not every individual is going to analyze closely or be afforded the opportunity to get that close in order to determine where every individual is really from.   There will always be people who will assume things without confirmation, and leave it at that. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on February 02, 2023, 06:44:02 AM
Tex, I assume you only stay a few days at a time. Staying a few months at at time requires more finesse.

I've lived in Sosua off and on for about 3 years, but I admit I do not venture outside of Sosua very much.

I'm speaking on their women outside of DR as well. I go to St. Thomas, the DR women there are known to be mostly hoes.

Here in NYC, they are the least represented in business outside of strip clubs and bodegas. They seem to be on that same ole come up through selling pussy. Haitian women come here and do waaaay better.

By far
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 02, 2023, 06:59:23 AM
I did talk to a few Canadian guys at various times in the past.  I believe this time of year is ideal for Canadians to travel and leave Canada.  Then return to Canada within 6 months.  Mainly because they cant be gone more than 6 months or they may forfeit their free healthcare.  Or at least be penalized before being reinstated.  Also, by the time 6 months has elapsed, it should be spring like weather creeping in.   

Please correct me on details I have got wrong or misunderstood.

I can only speak of how healthcare works in Ontario because I live in Toronto.  In Ontario the health care plan is called OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan). We pay taxes that pay into the plan.  Below is how living outside of of Canada for anyone who lives in Ontario.


“If you plan to be outside Canada for more than seven months in any 12-month period you can keep your OHIP coverage for up to two years”

 
https://www.ontario.ca/page/ohip-coverage-while-outside-canada#section-1
Thanks for the feedback, 2UP.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 02, 2023, 08:07:16 AM
Besides the colors Blue and Red, how do Crips and Bloods distinguish one from the other?   If you dont hear people speak, but only observe their behavior,  how do you determine precisely that they are from a certain place?   And if they dont fit the stereotype, how does one process that reality?   

Im kinda getting to something here.  Basically how people are profiled daily, often unjustifiably.   Like the guys sitting at Rumba/Kings not talking to any of the chicks in there looking to be hired.  Some cats can come up with only one self serving conclusion of what they are observing.

And how cops profile a lot of people.  Not just black people.  And how enough people profile cops as all being a certain way.  Usually as corrupt, liars, above the law, with superiority complexes.   Meanwhile the honest ones, what is their status?   

Lets face it.   We live in a highly biased world.  A world of stereotypes, biases, racism, discrimination.  Hate, self-hate, misogyny, misandry, including men towards other men and women towards other women etc.   

And also people can be guilty of whatever is assumed, just by association alone.   You black?, you are guilty.  You from New York?  You are guilty.  You arrive on a JetBlue flight, happen to be black, even if it was a connecting flight from New Orleans, you are guilty.   

He just happen to be an older white guy, walking around with mismatched clothes and colors, sporting a Hawaiian looking shirt, he's going to be guilty of something.

What you are guilty of will be determined as needed by the biased observer.   Like a judgmental black guy thinking the white guy is a nerd with no swag.  Or the Haitian ( or Dominican ) chicks thinking he is an easy target.   Especially if hes drunk.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 03, 2023, 02:52:40 PM

This made me chuckle a bit, Murano. Why? Because I can usually spot other black dudes from New York fairly easily. Granted, I'm not always spot on but when I'm wrong it's because I find out that they're either from New Jersey or in rare instances, the DMV (DC, Maryland, Virginia) area.

Being from California, I find that New York guys aren't hard to identify. Sure, the Yankee fitted baseball caps are a no-brainer. However, one of the easiest ways to spot a New Yorker is their gait. New Yorkers(particularly black men) don't seem to walk; they plod. They move as if their body is too difficult to manage. Young or old seem to be inflicted with this manner of moving and I don't know why. It's difficult to explain. You have to watch people and observe. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Many New York guys speak louder than other Americans for some odd reason(which is saying something because Americans as a whole are arguably the loudest foreigners anywhere). I don't know if it's to draw attention to themselves as some seem to believe. I just think that New York is a competitive place and if one wishes to be heard then he/she must speak with resoluteness and brevity.

Lastly, I think what makes a New Yorker easy to identify if that they...

MUST tell you within 1 minute of initial introduction that they're from New York. (Try this it really works!)

EVERY New Yorker will tell you that they're from New York whether you asked them or not. I find this highly annoying as a a traveler/monger. I spoken to enough New Yorkers to come away with the impression that they know very little or care to know anything west of the Hudson. Anything outside of the major metro New York area is "out there" and should be explored; but not by them. After all, why leave when nobody can make a better pizza than Don Antonio's? To many New Yorkers I've spoken to, the City is literally the center of the known universe. All else might as well be from Mars or some other distant planet within our solar system. Look what's going on in Sosua/DR. These bro's act like they discovered the island like Christopher Columbus. The DR has been there the whole time and it wasn't really until a few years ago that that crowd decided to crash Sosua for 3 day weekends. All hail to JetBlue ("New York's official airline).

So I find it humorous as a black guy when I'm asked where I'm from and I cheerfully say, "I'm from San Diego, California". The look on the New York faces is absolutely priceless and worth the price of admission every time. After the blank stare that seems to drag on for an eternity, I'm then asked, "So do they have good pizza 'out there'?"
Very informative breakdown.  So if I were to summarize what you have provided.  Enough individuals you have personally encountered, as well as others you may know experiencing the same thing, those individuals have made an impression of having certain characteristics that represents they may be from New York?  Or some of the other places you named nearby? 

TBH, I dont have a problem with that.  Mainly because some of what you said, I have observed as well in enough individuals.  Except for a few minor things.   Im a detail oriented person too.   Some of what I have observed.  Is that a lot of black guys between perhaps 20 and 60 look like men from almost any big city in the US.  Especially when they are dressed down casual.   And especially when they come to a place like Sosua.   

And many wear similar attire, many are proud to tell you where they are from when asked or not, have their own gait or swag.  And enough exhibit mannerisms, that usually assigned to New Yorkers.   Including appearing to not know or care much about anything outside of their own interests or awareness base.   

When it comes to encountering these individuals on vacation, the consumption of alcohol and/or drugs, and just by the mere excitement of being on vacation in "paradise" transforms enough men into whatever we see.  The ones that may be laid back,quiet or reserved are ignored or dont exist, and there is no accounting of their behavior or characteristics, and where they fit in ( in Sosua or anywhere in general ).   Thats telling in of itself.     Are there quiet, reserved, laid back guys in Sosua that come from New York?   How are they identified and distinguishable from the sterotypical New Yorker? 

One of the main distinctions that may help me identify where some cats may reside in the US, is their dialect or drawl, not so much what they are wearing.  Enunciation when speaking.  But when it comes to attitude and things you mentioned, I find that what you described is not isolated to only one region.  Not saying or assuming you implied that.   

It's just a matter of any individual being exposed to or encountering enough people to see where different people may share some similarities.  If one is limited to what and who they are exposed to, obviously their assessment or awareness of others may be limited or not considered. 

For example.  At the beach, there are group of guys that hang out at 64.   They have been coming for years.  They all travel to other places.  Colombia, Brazil, Thailand etc.   They will occupy several tables, bring their own liquor, and chasers.  They'll be loud, blasting hiphop, tatted up, smoking cigars and represent just about any stereotype that people use to identify them.  I happen to know where those cats are from.  California, Chicago, Baltimore, Houston, New York, Philly, ATL,Las Vegas etc.   

Now these are cats that know me, and I know them.  I dont hang with them because Im more laid back.  I dont drink like they do, and I dont like sitting with large groups of guys like that.   I cant listen to hard core hiphop and all of that loud talking and the rest of it.   To the average individual walking the beach seeing them, I'd bet money every one of those cats sitting at those tables would be identified as New Yorkers.   

Yup, look at them.  Loud, check.  Hip Hop blaring, check.  Looks like they are into their own world, check.  Some wearing caps or Jerseys, check.  Several Jetblue flights came in recently, check.   All we need to do is fill in the stereotypical blanks, and it's a done deal.   They are all New Yorkers.  IMHO, that is how enough New Yorkers are identified.  It does not matter if they are from New York or not. 

Nobody is going to take the time to distinguish who is from California, who is from Chicago, who sitting at the table is from the UK.  There will always be white guys and black guys who are going to identify whatever they observe by what makes it easier for them to separate themselves from what they have observed.   

"Me and the people I know arent like that"   My point is, in the proper setting, you can get just about any group of people together to exhibit the same mannerisms or characteristics.   Especially in a relaxed setting where they dont feel they are being judged by superficial criteria.   

Another thing Ive observed, is non New Yorkers wearing New York logo outfits and caps, even though they werent from NY.  Why?  One reason is, some cats just like certain NY teams and/or their attire.  The Yankees attire is pretty sharp.  Much of it looks good with blue jeans.  I can see why some cats would sport it even if they werent New Yorkers. 

Im not much of a jersey wearer. But I have had some attire that had colors of certain teams.  Or I have a non official jersey of a Cowboy player, and a Braves shirt.   Out in public it was common to get comments from guys assuming I was a fan or from the city where that jersey was from.   

Ive worn NYPD and NYFD tee shirts, and have been approached by people assuming I was a New Yorker that worked for the police or FD in NY.  They even thanked me for my service.   How wrong they were.  The thing is, there is a large margin of error, that some people may not allow in terms of their assessment and identification of people.

So how uncommon would it be for many individuals seeing someone wearing Yankee attire to assume right off the bat, that the person wearing it is NOT a New Yorker?   

No, you wear it, you must be connected to the place regardless of where you are from.  That is how many people process what they observe.    Even if one is not a New Yorker,  if you behave like what people perceive to be how a New Yorker behaves, you might as well be a New Yorker.   Especially when it comes to being black.  Rhetorical questions.    How does a white guy from New York typically behave?  What are the identifiers?    And if there are differences between how white guys and black guys represent themselves as a New Yorker what are they?

Anybody know Coach?  This dude is in his 60's, about 6' 7" wears baseball caps almost every day.  Sports jewelry, watches, and usually wearing sports attire.  One could easily assume he was a New Yorker by appearance alone.  But he's not.  He's from the midwest.   If one hears him talk they may hear a difference.   Ive been assumed to be from cities, not where Im originally from.  Why?   Because they say I dont sound or act like whats typical to them.   

I get that from both black folks and white folks.  All one has to do is multiply my experience by several hundred thousand.   Because there are a lot of people that dont represent themselves the way some people may perceive someone from a certain place behaves.   It was mentioned that some people have a certain look when they discover something doesnt fit.   

Ive seen the same thing when it comes to some finding out a person may be a New Yorker or from New York, but they dont recognize it.   If they dont see the typical stereotypes they believe fits, they're stunned or even baffled on why they didnt pick up on it.   And some I believe find it difficult to accept when enough folks dont manifest certain sterotypes.   

The big take away from my novel is this.  Not every individual is going to analyze closely or be afforded the opportunity to get that close in order to determine where every individual is really from.   There will always be people who will assume things without confirmation, and leave it at that.

Man you do talk some shit!! Jeff was talking about guys he met and what he thought of who he met.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on February 03, 2023, 03:02:16 PM
New York is a big place... As a fellow New Yorker lol, if you aint from one of the 4 boroughs, you're pretty much considered an out of towner too.

Bronx N!66az wear Yankee fitted's. Queens N!66az rock the orange & blue, on some Mets sh!T. Brooklyn stay on they Nets sh!T. N Harlem Ni66aZ just be flashy N tight lol. That's New York! If a place wasn't mentioned, it's cause real New Yorkers don't even acknowledge it lol🤷🏽‍♂️
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 03, 2023, 03:15:28 PM

Man you do talk some shit!! Jeff was talking about guys he met and what he thought of who he met.
What you need to do is remove your knee jerk blind ass from this thread.  Buy yourself a better pair of glasses.   Who the f--k is Jeff?   And if you need some assistance moving along, I dont mind obliging. 

DONE!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 03, 2023, 03:43:06 PM
Friday February 3, 2023

I have to say, the weather has been very spring like on the north coast.  For me, it's almost kinda scary.  Why?  Well during the day the temperature daily has been in the mid 80's F.     Over the years I have been used to much warmer temps during this time of year.  Like consistently 93 degrees F and above.    Warm enough to where one may need to use some A/C.

But now, it's cooler and breezy 1st thing in the morning.  Dont even need a fan.  And then at night, it can get chilly.   One can feel it more if riding on a moto or pasola.    On the positive, one can save money on electricity.   

Last night Thursday, the strip was alive.  Chicks all over the place.  Many obviously got the memo that money has come to town, better come and get it.    Not very certain, but I think Sosua Lights is attracting more business.   The Haitian chicks now have their safe haven back.   Even one of my regulars has took a few extra days off.   They all know that a lot of monger tourists are in town, and that their regulars aint going no where.

Even the Haitian Tinder chick I met a couple of weeks ago had a status video of her chilling in Sosua Lights.   Plenty of chicks and options to be had all over town.   Performance, cleanliness, trustworthiness and price? Thats an issue all by itself.   Many of the bars and restaurants around town have been full of patrons.   Sosua looks alive.    I wonder how the club in playa Chiquita is doing.   Havent heard much about it lately?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 03, 2023, 11:10:28 PM
Friday February 3, 2023

I have to say, the weather has been very spring like on the north coast.  For me, it's almost kinda scary.  Why?  Well during the day the temperature daily has been in the mid 80's F.     Over the years I have been used to much warmer temps during this time of year.  Like consistently 93 degrees F and above.    Warm enough to where one may need to use some A/C.

But now, it's cooler and breezy 1st thing in the morning.  Dont even need a fan.  And then at night, it can get chilly.   One can feel it more if riding on a moto or pasola.    On the positive, one can save money on electricity.   

Last night Thursday, the strip was alive.  Chicks all over the place.  Many obviously got the memo that money has come to town, better come and get it.    Not very certain, but I think Sosua Lights is attracting more business.   The Haitian chicks now have their safe haven back.   Even one of my regulars has took a few extra days off.   They all know that a lot of monger tourists are in town, and that their regulars aint going no where.

Even the Haitian Tinder chick I met a couple of weeks ago had a status video of her chilling in Sosua Lights.   Plenty of chicks and options to be had all over town.   Performance, cleanliness, trustworthiness and price? Thats an issue all by itself.   Many of the bars and restaurants around town have been full of patrons.   Sosua looks alive.    I wonder how the club in playa Chiquita is doing.   Havent heard much about it lately?
Or The Anvhee or Davids Plaza DOA !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 10:55:26 AM
Friday February 10, 2023  about 12:30am

Went out last night to see what was happening out in town.  Drove down Dr Rosen, around to Bailee's,  onto Pedro Clisante.  Last stop was City Lights. 

Starting with Dr Rosen at the bus station.  It was lively by the time I got to the intersection of PC.   Wings and Waffles at Hotel Las Palmeras looked dead.  A few chicks standing outside of Hotel Las Palmeras gate.   And a few chicks on the sidewalk going towards PC.   Right next to Hotel Las Palmeras is a clothing store, and a small alley way where some chicas stay.   So I see a few chicks spilled out on the sidewalk in that area.

When I get to PC corner,  looking towards Kings I see a crowd of people, but I cant focus on everything.   
After driving around the strip,  I park and now Im on foot, checking things out.   

On the Chez Montreal side there are about 10 chicks on the corner.  Nervous looking chicks. LOL   I'll explain later.   On the other side is the small bar close to the corner.   A small safe haven for Haitian chicas it appears to me.   About a dozen holed up inside of there.   All looking quite hungry, IMO.   Some doable, but no stars in the bunch.  Some looking like a def no no.   

There's another bar a few feet down ( Dr Rosen ), I see some more chicks there.  Across from that Blue Ice is open,  with chicks standing outside mostly.   I think they might have been freelancers and/or staff trying to get the jump on guys passing by?    So far all of these venues have a few male patrons.   Im seeing mostly white guys so far.    Im assuming when I get to Kings, I see more.     

When I drove on PC, stopping periodically, it was dead at Jolly Roger, Fat Jessies and the plaza there.   The Italian restaurant was closed, and the two bars next to each other, were open, but hardly anybody there.   I stop in front of Merengue, door wide open.  A very weak crowd.  A few chicks and few guys inside.  It would be a good place to take a chick to for vetting ( like from a loud place ).   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 11:21:33 AM
Friday morning cont :

Across the street is Brick Flame and Coco Loco.  CL was playing Karaoke,  a bunch of white folks inside and outside having a good time.   Brick Flame, a few hotties standing outside.  Maybe 3 or 4 inside,  but basically dead.  Bar Central, open but dead at that hour.   Im thinking why?   Then it dawned on me.   It's 1am,  the place could have been filled with chicas and patrons, and now most people have left? 

Ironically the German restaurant next door, had a nice crowd of guys inside,  with a handful of Haitian chicks inside or outside still looking for work.  Along with all my visuals, Im seeing police strategically standing in several places on the strip.   In front of Merengue, over by Brick Flame, then near where El Flow used to be, and also on the Kings side of the street.   In front of or near Chez Montreal.   And the Politur pickup truck parked by the Chinese tienda ( Bourbon Street location ).

So basically the strip is heavily being monitored by police.  What was interesting is that the police were mostly showing their presence, but not necessarily making moves.  If anything it was the chicks scrambling every time the police came anywhere near them.   At one point I saw chicks standing in front of Chez Montreal,  and the cops near them on the same side of the street.   Nobody was tripping.

Now when it came to the guys mostly by Kings, or by the small fast food window of Chez Montreal,  this is where I saw the most black guys hovering around.   It appeared that Kings had a small crowd of mongers and chicks inside and outside, with the typical spillage on the sidewalk.   Cops walking back and forth as usual.

Bear in mind, it's now past 1am.  The cops are fixing to make sure everything closes down at 2am.   IMO, PC looked like a sausage fest as we sometimes say.   Instead of it looking like plenty of chicks,  it looked more like chicks and guys matched each other.   For many of the chicks I saw,  I dont think much of them got any work later that night.    If they got in work earlier,  thats another story.   

But my guess is,  a lot of chicks may not have gotten any work yesterday or last night.  IMO,  many of the chicks are to blame for why many may not be getting hired.  Me thinks a decent % of men are fed up with some of these chicks prices or expectations,  including lackluster performance.   Of course there will always be guys here that dont give a F about that.   They are going to go for what they find attractive.

But I still say, enough guys are willing to wait or even forgo pursuing a session until they nail what they deem to be a suitable provider.   All in all, there are just about every type of chick out there on the hustle.   Some looking mighty tempting.   But the attitude and vibe some of these chicks have, I can see why enough guys are not going all in with some of these chicks. 

Not to mention all of the tricks and bamboozling some chicks have been known to do, that some guys are catching onto. 

So basically,  maybe if I had arrived sooner, like around 10ish,  the scene would have looked a lot more promising from a monger perspective?   

Next stop City Lights. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 11:55:48 AM
Friday continued :

Ok I walk over to City Lights, and climb their little stairway to come in.   I sit at a table.  About a dozen chicks in there spread around.  Unimpressive.  But then I have to remember,  it's after 1am now.  The place closes at 2am.

One table occupied by what looked like Haitian guys with a couple of their girls.  They're just chillin and vaping.  A few freelancers in there,  nothing new I havent seen walking around town or the beach.   What I like about the setup,  is that the lighting is subdued.   Unlike inside of Kings.  Which is all lit up and bright.
I think City Lights and Merengues setup is a more suitable setup to pickup chicks. 

I can sit and entertain a chick in there more comfortably and almost feel I have a sense of privacy,  than I would doing the same thing at Kings.  Thats just me.   

It didnt take long.  One live wire Haitian chica approaches me.  Does her intro, and asks me for my number.  I can tell shes probably hit every table in the joint before I got there.   Not bad looking, but she looks like straight up trouble.  For all I know she might even be on some narcotic.   She def was f--kable, but I would need a separate f--k den for her.   Later I see her talking to some Haitian dude.   

If I see chicks connected with local dudes, I usually leave them alone.  Next I saw her moving around a lot, then smoking a cigarette.   Maybe too hardcore for me to even think about hitting it.   I was there mostly just to check out the scene. 

I see about 4 or 5 tables occupied by white guys.  Some had girls swarming them,  one had one of the waitress's at his table.   Another was dancing with this tall wild Haitian chica, that appeared high or drunk.  All over the place.   

After the 1st chick moved on,  the Tinder Haitian chick I met a few weeks ago came over to my table.  Asking me why havent I responded blah blah blah.   I made up some shit, and told her I MIGHT check her out later.   That got her to go back to where she was with her cousin.   All of the chicks there were basically still looking for work.    IMO, many of the Haitian chicks are just as guilty as enough DR chicks for why they arent getting snatched up by enough guys.   

On my 1st date/connection with the Haitian chick, she did not leave an impression worth hiring her again.  Moreover, she still is confused when it comes to making arrangements and being on time. 

Neverheless,  the little head was considering on hiring her.   I wouldnt have to negotiate price,  so that wasnt a problem.  Maybe it could work.  But then I thought about why I stopped bothering with her in the 1st place.  Basically, she was not a good provider, FOR ME.   I did discuss some of my reasons with her last night.  Of course she claimed that she was going to do better.  But Ive been in this game long enough.

If you give some of these muggs a chance to f--k up, they most certainly will f--k up again.  Her main goal is to get paid last night.  By hook or by crook.  A chick will say anything to get a dude to take them.  At 2am when it was time to leave, chick follows me outside.   Im on the fence on whether or not I should take her.   But something tells me,  nahhh, just let it go.   But before I rolled out,  chick had the nerve to tell me that she was hungry.   

These chicks got balls.  Many cant put in a decent effort to perform a service for 30 minutes, but they want and expect favors.   I had told my Haitian regular not tonight ( Thursday night ).  Im glad I didnt waste leche and pesos on that chick in City lights.    Whats bad is,  she is a decent looking chick with a nice fat ass.   Me thinks enough of those regular dudes in City Lights may have already encountered her flaky work ethic?    If not yet, they will very soon.    I hope for her sake,  she got paid earlier in the day/night?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 12:22:15 PM
Bailes's was empty last night,  just regular dining patrons.  I should have went to each casino to see how things were there.   Does anyone know if Haitian chicks are allowed to go into the casinos?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 01:08:09 PM
Thursday February 9th 2023  1pm to 6:45pm

Spent the afternoon at the beach.   The open area by #64 had several tables occupied by monger guys and chicas.  Most of the guys I saw appear to be relatively new to the scene.   Like under 5yrs.   With a mixture of Sosua vets.   

The chicas are the same chicas we always see.  With a miniscule mixture of new chicks.   Overall, I expect to see more guys and chicks Friday, Saturday and Sunday.   But maybe not a lot more.   Because when it comes to Super Bowl week, Sosua usually starts filling up more than a week before SB Sunday.   

So technically, the monger and chica representation as of yesterday looks very weak IMO ( compared to SB weeks pre pandemic ).   But lets not under estimate the weekend warriors contribution to their presence. 
Especially them damn New Yorkers from all around the US, Canada and the UK. 

Another thing I noticed, is that the surf at Sosua beach was extremely rough.  A lot of water coming up on the beach.   A lot of lounge chairs were removed.  The temps at the beach was very mild, with periods of rain.   Almost not even warm enough to take a swim. 

I was told that the surf in Cabarete was so bad, that they banned kite surfing yesterday.  If the surf was bad at Sosua beach, it had to be 2 or 3 times worse in Cabarete. 

A couple of days ago I checked out the entire beach.   It really looked dead.  Fast Freddie was closed ( he's Caseta# 163 and 164 ).  Big Mama was dead.  The only one that looked a little busy was Velero and Malibu.  But not overwhelmingly so. 

Sad to pass by to see the Tree House closed.  Finger Finger's spot and the other restaurants adjacent all looked dead.  Jorge Mayra kitchen operates out of Caseta #87 ( formerly Big D's last spot in Sosua ) 
Jorge/Mayra still has tables in front of their old spot in front of Caseta#64.   But now they ( staff and lounge chair guys ) have to literally walk back and forth for everything at #87. 

Heard the owner of Jorge/Mayra did something or failed to do something which caused her to lose her prime spot on the beach ( #64 ).   So I guess if someone needs to use the toilet, they have to walk all of the way to #87 to use one?   Crazy.   

Caseta#39 Miltons place which is usually busy.  He owns Wings and Waffles now which is at Hotel Las Palmeras.  His place on the beach normally attracts a decent crowd of hip hop lovers.  His place was dead yesterday.   Mainly the open area by #64, to #76 were the busiest areas of the beach.   Oh and yes there were still locals coming to the beach yesterday as well. 

Marias restaurant at the bottom of the stairs at the midway point, and also next to Aris restaurant #67, has been closed the last few visits.  My guess is, the landlord may have wanted their 1 or 2 years rent in advance.  So they may have had to shut down because of that?   Hopefully they may have moved, but there was no sign saying so.  I saw mucho chicas come through there on my visits to the beach, looking to get lunch (because it's so cheap) , only to find it closed.   

Sosua itself is not dead,  thats just a basic report on how Super Bowl week in Sosua looks through my eyes/perspective.   Man so many surgical asses, these days.  And so many big chicks.   There are plenty of nicely shaped chicks too.  The thing is, with probably most of them, you already know they are going to come out of their faces with some ridiculous figure$ for their time.   

Many not budging, because they think they are in heavy demand.  I think many can do well with just 5 to 10 clients a month.  They dont have to work every day, or all day.  And also enough have a steady income from WU.  Funny, maybe I have been missing it, but I dont recall seeing the usual chicks driving their cars around in Sosua?  I see enough chicks on pasolas and four wheelers, but not in cars.   I'll keep my eyes open. 



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 10, 2023, 02:23:14 PM
Yes Sirs ,lousy attitudes lousy intractions for the most part half the chicas suck .no pun intended .as vets or guys that have mongered before vett and vibe any red flaggs move on. now if your a thirsty dude its a roll of the dice  best of luck ! I just came back from a 50 day stay .cocure on muranos observations !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 10, 2023, 04:06:41 PM
Good stuff @Murano…. Respect bro.!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on February 10, 2023, 04:27:55 PM
Thursday February 9th 2023  1pm to 6:45pm

Spent the afternoon at the beach.   The open area by #64 had several tables occupied by monger guys and chicas.  Most of the guys I saw appear to be relatively new to the scene.   Like under 5yrs.   With a mixture of Sosua vets.   

The chicas are the same chicas we always see.  With a miniscule mixture of new chicks.   Overall, I expect to see more guys and chicks Friday, Saturday and Sunday.   But maybe not a lot more.   Because when it comes to Super Bowl week, Sosua usually starts filling up more than a week before SB Sunday.   

So technically, the monger and chica representation as of yesterday looks very weak IMO ( compared to SB weeks pre pandemic ).   But lets not under estimate the weekend warriors contribution to their presence. 
Especially them damn New Yorkers from all around the US, Canada and the UK. 

Another thing I noticed, is that the surf at Sosua beach was extremely rough.  A lot of water coming up on the beach.   A lot of lounge chairs were removed.  The temps at the beach was very mild, with periods of rain.   Almost not even warm enough to take a swim. 

I was told that the surf in Cabarete was so bad, that they banned kite surfing yesterday.  If the surf was bad at Sosua beach, it had to be 2 or 3 times worse in Cabarete. 

A couple of days ago I checked out the entire beach.   It really looked dead.  Fast Freddie was closed ( he's Caseta# 163 and 164 ).  Big Mama was dead.  The only one that looked a little busy was Velero and Malibu.  But not overwhelmingly so. 

Sad to pass by to see the Tree House closed.  Finger Finger's spot and the other restaurants adjacent all looked dead.  Jorge Mayra kitchen operates out of Caseta #87 ( formerly Big D's last spot in Sosua ) 
Jorge/Mayra still has tables in front of their old spot in front of Caseta#64.   But now they ( staff and lounge chair guys ) have to literally walk back and forth for everything at #87. 

Heard the owner of Jorge/Mayra did something or failed to do something which caused her to lose her prime spot on the beach ( #64 ).   So I guess if someone needs to use the toilet, they have to walk all of the way to #87 to use one?   Crazy.   

Caseta#39 Miltons place which is usually busy.  He owns Wings and Waffles now which is at Hotel Las Palmeras.  His place on the beach normally attracts a decent crowd of hip hop lovers.  His place was dead yesterday.   Mainly the open area by #64, to #76 were the busiest areas of the beach.   Oh and yes there were still locals coming to the beach yesterday as well. 

Marias restaurant at the bottom of the stairs at the midway point, and also next to Aris restaurant #67, has been closed the last few visits.  My guess is, the landlord may have wanted their 1 or 2 years rent in advance.  So they may have had to shut down because of that?   Hopefully they may have moved, but there was no sign saying so.  I saw mucho chicas come through there on my visits to the beach, looking to get lunch (because it's so cheap) , only to find it closed.   

Sosua itself is not dead,  thats just a basic report on how Super Bowl week in Sosua looks through my eyes/perspective.   Man so many surgical asses, these days.  And so many big chicks.   There are plenty of nicely shaped chicks too.  The thing is, with probably most of them, you already know they are going to come out of their faces with some ridiculous figure$ for their time.   

Many not budging, because they think they are in heavy demand.  I think many can do well with just 5 to 10 clients a month.  They dont have to work every day, or all day.  And also enough have a steady income from WU.  Funny, maybe I have been missing it, but I dont recall seeing the usual chicks driving their cars around in Sosua?  I see enough chicks on pasolas and four wheelers, but not in cars.   I'll keep my eyes open.

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 07:07:57 PM
Brief update!   Friday February 10th 2023 

Not my eyes, but my neighbor said the beach was packed with "brothers" and chicas today.  He was on the beach Thursday afternoon, when I was.  He said today there were many more people on the beach today, than yesterday.   What a difference a day or flight can make.   And yet still, aside from my neighbors observations, I still dont feel Sosua is at it's peak ( of tourists and chicas ) for Super Bowl Sunday/week. 

While sitting still out and about I was able to see a few of the usual chicks driving around Sosua in their cars.  Aside from their own p4p hustle, some of these chicks seem to be doing a little pimping on the side.  At the very least, shuttling chicas back and forth to clients.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 07:21:59 PM

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Yes it's adjacent.  However,  #67 Aris restaurant and #74 Mofongo King are separated by the exit path.   

If you are facing the exit path, #74 Mofongo King is on the right, and #67 Aris restaurant is on the left.   Starting at #67 and working your way left, is Joeselito's restaurant.  He is #66,  continue left is Dominics restaurant #65.   Then left of Dominics is #64 Jorge/Mayra restaurant, which is physically closed there but their kitchen is now at #87.  They have a few tables in the sand by #64,  and also at #87 where the kitchen is now.

Now they have a lot further to travel to serve food and beverages to customers sitting near #64 area. 

#64/#87 Jorge Mayra restaurant has decent Red Snapper fish.  I like the way they season their fish.  Aris restaurant too.  Aris gives you decent amount of food for your money.  Aris does a good job with their cocktails and soft drinks.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 10, 2023, 07:40:31 PM
Good stuff @Murano…. Respect bro.!
Thanks Ace!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 10, 2023, 11:01:03 PM
Bailes's was empty last night,  just regular dining patrons.  I should have went to each casino to see how things were there.   Does anyone know if Haitian chicks are allowed to go into the casinos?

The casino is full of haitian chicks.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 10, 2023, 11:16:59 PM
Murano,

Excellent reporting. It’s appreciated. 👌🏾💯

From the sound of it all (minimal crowds on Thursday to somewhat bustling crowds on Friday), it does seem like the literal weekend warriors arrived today (Friday) and will definitely be gone by Monday, presumably.

Considering that dudes will spend a lot of time watching the game on Sunday, I don’t see how a lot of chicas are gonna make any real $$$ in such a small window of time. Maybe that reality will cause them to stop with the ridiculous price quotes. Smh.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Ted68 on February 11, 2023, 12:09:12 AM
Definitely appreciate the report Murano 👍🏾..I'm hoping to get back down either next month or April.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 06:25:28 AM
Bailes's was empty last night,  just regular dining patrons.  I should have went to each casino to see how things were there.   Does anyone know if Haitian chicks are allowed to go into the casinos?

The casino is full of haitian chicks.
Ok good to know
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 06:50:33 AM
Murano,

Excellent reporting. It’s appreciated. 👌🏾💯

From the sound of it all (minimal crowds on Thursday to somewhat bustling crowds on Friday), it does seem like the literal weekend warriors arrived today (Friday) and will definitely be gone by Monday, presumably.

Considering that dudes will spend a lot of time watching the game on Sunday, I don’t see how a lot of chicas are gonna make any real $$$ in such a small window of time. Maybe that reality will cause them to stop with the ridiculous price quotes. Smh.
This aint hard to figure out at this point.  But I feel similarly.  There are so many chicks on the scene.  Some chicks will make some money, no doubt, but I also believe enough chicks will be like mannequins in a display window.   Seen on display, but not used. 

Some chicks who were used to making a windfall during this time,  may be disappointed if they end up making a lot less than what they were accustomed to. 

It does seem obvious to me, that even though a lot of guys come to Sosua thirsty,  it still appears that enough men arent pulling the trigger on chicks, until they are sure of making a move.   I know I feel that way on my end, most times when it comes to trying someone new. 

I see it even with some white guys at Bar Central or the German restaurant next door.   You see Haitian chicks sitting or standing around for a while sometimes before somebody may talk to them or hire them.   I think even some of those guys try to avoid having a chick sit with them, only to end up feeding them and quenching their thirst.   

Getting nothing out of it,  except some company.  Of course some guys love doing that.  Those guys like socializing with their mates, just like any other monger.  Chicks sometimes interfere with their fellowship going on. 

IMO the main reality that might invoke a change is, chicks seeing consistent failures in being hired for a long duration.  Not making enough during SBW is not enough incentive, IMO.   Because there will still be guys coming down after SBW to pick up where the other guys may have fell short.     

And also,  I believe chicas think of income on a monthly basis, not necessarily on a daily basis.  In a months time, a chick should have made enough to take care of all of her monthly and daily expenses.  Anything else she earns is gravy.   Sure it's nice having a good day, earning quick cash.    Like getting to eat and drink for free, so they dont have to spend their own money.  Thats a good day.  Dudes paying for a chicks transpo,  thats a good day.   A chick getting unexpected cash for doing nothing, thats a good day.

Chicks convincing 8 to 10 dudes to send her money for whatever lie or convenient excuse she can come up with.  Rent, birthdays, electricity, you name it.   There will always be guys sending supplemental income.   With all of this money circulating from guys, I dont see chicks getting any incentive to lower their expectations from us.   They see us as rich f--ks that have too much money and resources as it is.  We cant hide it.   

The problem is, many chicks are not wired to see their assumed occupation,  and being rehired may mean meeting the demands and satisfaction of their clients.  Many chicks dont give a f--k about satisfying the client, it's about getting his money.   Enough chicks are just very good at hiding their indifference towards mongers.    Same with the motoconcho dudes scooting these chicks around.  Those dudes have an opinion about us too.  But it's kept under wraps.  All for the sake of,  they have to make a living off of us. 

Mostly all of their living expenses is much cheaper in their world than it is for us.   Plus they have family to back them up, if they dont have their own places to live.  Plus family helps babysit the kids so the chica can go out to work.   It's a well oiled system,  even though it may seem dysfunctional or chaotic to us. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 11, 2023, 07:11:50 AM
I agree that Merengue and City Lights have way better environment than Rumba.

I Don't know why more people, men and women, don't hang out in Merengue.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 11, 2023, 07:39:44 AM
Murano,

Excellent reporting. It’s appreciated. 👌🏾💯

From the sound of it all (minimal crowds on Thursday to somewhat bustling crowds on Friday), it does seem like the literal weekend warriors arrived today (Friday) and will definitely be gone by Monday, presumably.

Considering that dudes will spend a lot of time watching the game on Sunday, I don’t see how a lot of chicas are gonna make any real $$$ in such a small window of time. Maybe that reality will cause them to stop with the ridiculous price quotes. Smh.
This aint hard to figure out at this point.  But I feel similarly.  There are so many chicks on the scene.  Some chicks will make some money, no doubt, but I also believe enough chicks will be like mannequins in a display window.   Seen on display, but not used. 

Some chicks who were used to making a windfall during this time,  may be disappointed if they end up making a lot less than what they were accustomed to. 

It does seem obvious to me, that even though a lot of guys come to Sosua thirsty,  it still appears that enough men arent pulling the trigger on chicks, until they are sure of making a move.   I know I feel that way on my end, most times when it comes to trying someone new. 

I see it even with some white guys at Bar Central or the German restaurant next door.   You see Haitian chicks sitting or standing around for a while sometimes before somebody may talk to them or hire them.   I think even some of those guys try to avoid having a chick sit with them, only to end up feeding them and quenching their thirst.   

Getting nothing out of it,  except some company.  Of course some guys love doing that.  Those guys like socializing with their mates, just like any other monger.  Chicks sometimes interfere with their fellowship going on. 

IMO the main reality that might invoke a change is, chicks seeing consistent failures in being hired for a long duration.  Not making enough during SBW is not enough incentive, IMO.   Because there will still be guys coming down after SBW to pick up where the other guys may have fell short.     

And also,  I believe chicas think of income on a monthly basis, not necessarily on a daily basis.  In a months time, a chick should have made enough to take care of all of her monthly and daily expenses.  Anything else she earns is gravy.   Sure it's nice having a good day, earning quick cash.    Like getting to eat and drink for free, so they dont have to spend their own money.  Thats a good day.  Dudes paying for a chicks transpo,  thats a good day.   A chick getting unexpected cash for doing nothing, thats a good day.

Chicks convincing 8 to 10 dudes to send her money for whatever lie or convenient excuse she can come up with.  Rent, birthdays, electricity, you name it.   There will always be guys sending supplemental income.   With all of this money circulating from guys, I dont see chicks getting any incentive to lower their expectations from us.   They see us as rich f--ks that have too much money and resources as it is.  We cant hide it.   

The problem is, many chicks are not wired to see their assumed occupation,  and being rehired may mean meeting the demands and satisfaction of their clients.  Many chicks dont give a f--k about satisfying the client, it's about getting his money.   Enough chicks are just very good at hiding their indifference towards mongers.    Same with the motoconcho dudes scooting these chicks around.  Those dudes have an opinion about us too.  But it's kept under wraps.  All for the sake of,  they have to make a living off of us. 

Mostly all of their living expenses is much cheaper in their world than it is for us.   Plus they have family to back them up, if they dont have their own places to live.  Plus family helps babysit the kids so the chica can go out to work.   It's a well oiled system,  even though it may seem dysfunctional or chaotic to us.
key words well oiled ! yup whatever it takes its common for family member to baby sit the kids while mommys out working, there may or may not be a novio in the back ground unless its the lazy farther or babys daddy that dosent work   the Hoe cycle of life !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 11, 2023, 07:47:46 AM
I agree that Merengue and City Lights have way better environment than Rumba.

I Don't know why more people, men and women, don't hang out in Merengue.

I feel the same… Also Coco Loca is a great place but guys don’t know about the place or just walk right by with there minds focused on getting to Kings/Rumbas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 07:54:37 AM
I agree that Merengue and City Lights have way better environment than Rumba.

I Don't know why more people, men and women, don't hang out in Merengue.
I believe it's what I refer to as the "Who is There?" dynamic.  If no mongers are in there, then less chicas will show up.  If there are less chicas in there then less mongers will show up.    Like the problem 2413 Sports Bar@ Davids Plaza, had.  Or High Society next door to Davids Plaza. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 07:55:14 AM
Just my opinion :

Kings has taken over as the best place for chicas to go ( in the evening ) where they may get the most exposure.  Plus, if you recall back in 2010 up until lets say 2014,  more chicks usually piled up inside of venues, with only a minimal amount of chicas patrolling the strip and around the blocks.   

Fast forward to now,  and the practice of chicas on patrol in the streets has picked up a lot in the last few years.  Many of these chicks these days, are dressed for walking for miles on the strip,  and for running from the cops.  I bet if some of those chicks had the Samsung Health app on, many would have put in about 20,000 steps per day.     

Chicks on patrol are trying to snag clients before they even get to venues.  Thats another reason some chicks sit up in Kings for hours at a time, without scoring a client,  except for exchanging numbers.  Even in the last 2 years,  chicks standing outside of Bailee's were sometimes scoring clients outside without even going inside of Bailees to spend any money.   

Remember when Bourbon Street was open.  That was a cool meeting place too.  Sometimes chicks sat around there for hours while all of that elevator Jazz was playing in the background.  Many chicks looking bored as a f--k.  Those that scored clients were happy to finally get work.   Meanwhile on the street chicks were patrolling the strip like extras in a movie.   Those that had the right look,  they got clients that might have been on their way to a venue.

So with Merengue,  they have a lot of detriments to overcome.  Plenty of patrolling streetwalkers on deck.  Plenty of other places to go where chicks and guys are more exposed.  A dude can sit at Chez Montreal and snatch a chick up thats just standing on the corner.   He doesnt have to meet her inside,  like what a guy would do at Merengue,  hoping chicks are inside looking for work.  Same with Kings.  A dude can sit outside on the patio area of Kings and pluck chicas on patrol right from the sidewalk.   Cant do that sitting at the bar at Merengue.   Not unless you are sitting close to the window.   

The chicks with the most exposure, they are the ones getting a nice chunk of the business.  IMO if more chicks were also good at inspiring repeat business they would do pretty good.  But too often, many of these chicks are only good for one session, and done.   Also what goes along with patrolling SW is the potential perception of them being more hardcore and untrustworthy.   Many dont offer a vibe inspiring guys to hire them.   But enough of them get by because they look very f--kable. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 08:02:50 AM
I agree that Merengue and City Lights have way better environment than Rumba.

I Don't know why more people, men and women, don't hang out in Merengue.

I feel the same… Also Coco Loca is a great place but guys don’t know about the place or just walk right by with there minds focused on getting to Kings/Rumbas.
So far Ive only passed by Coco Loco, never patronized the place.   I have seen some chicks spilled out on the sidewalk near CL and Brick Flame.   But what would inspire guys to go to those places,  if there are no chicks actually inside, but only on the street?   I heard the prices at CL wasnt cheap, but neither is Kings.   But Kings location has the longer standing rep of being the place to go.  Plus a lot more room.   More chicas and more potential clients.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 11, 2023, 08:20:55 AM
True
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 08:27:09 AM
What I think is going on a lot is, mongers and chicas do more contact exchanging than actually seeing them getting up and walking together to handle their business.  We see it all of the time.  Chicks on patrol on the street,  or at the beach, or at a venue.  Chick passes by,  catches a guys eye.  Guy calls her over.  Whips out his phone, hands it to the chick to put her number in, or he enters the info himself.  Thats SOP these days.

The interaction we used to see between mongers and chicas has been reduced to that common practice.  Sometimes chicas are hardly engaging with the guy that stopped her.  Sometimes no eye contact.  Almost like, "Ok ninja, I'll give you my number even though you are just wasting my time"   

As soon as the chick walks away,  her getting a call back is 40/60.   And they know it.  Many guys just like flirting with chicks.  It kinda makes up for all of the rejection they're accustomed to getting from the women, where they are from. 

Some chicks with a slight desperate streak will try to get the guys number, so they can Whatsapp him in case he doesnt reach out 1st.   This also strokes the male mongers ego to a certain extent.   If chicks were all that good,  or doing very well,  they wouldnt need to pursue customers.   

Dudes would be waiting their turn to get with them.  The biggest problem is the unknown for enough guys.   They like what they see,  but unsure if they should take the risk of wasting their money or their time on a particular chick in front of them.   Subconsciously, if it looks too good to be true ( of good quality ), it may not be worth pursuing. 

Some of these chicks are just not fun to sit with and entertain.  Plus the language barrier.  But even chicks that speak perfect English,  many of them outside of the bedroom,  they are a waste of a guys time. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on February 11, 2023, 01:13:09 PM

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Yes it's adjacent.  However,  #67 Aris restaurant and #74 Mofongo King are separated by the exit path.   

If you are facing the exit path, #74 Mofongo King is on the right, and #67 Aris restaurant is on the left.   Starting at #67 and working your way left, is Joeselito's restaurant.  He is #66,  continue left is Dominics restaurant #65.   Then left of Dominics is #64 Jorge/Mayra restaurant, which is physically closed there but their kitchen is now at #87.  They have a few tables in the sand by #64,  and also at #87 where the kitchen is now.

Now they have a lot further to travel to serve food and beverages to customers sitting near #64 area. 

#64/#87 Jorge Mayra restaurant has decent Red Snapper fish.  I like the way they season their fish.  Aris restaurant too.  Aris gives you decent amount of food for your money.  Aris does a good job with their cocktails and soft drinks.

Thanks. It seems like every time I sit and eat and the Mofongo King, there’s always a group of dudes eating at that restaurant Aris with their chicas, playing hip hop on their boom box to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear it. Every time as I walking at the beach and go past Aris restaurant, the girl with the menu always try to persuade me to sit and eat that place, but I always refuse and one day she asked as I was leaving the Mofongo King, walking past,  why won’t I eat there? I told her that her restaurant was too god damn loud!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 01:51:18 PM
Murano,

Excellent reporting. It’s appreciated. 👌🏾💯

From the sound of it all (minimal crowds on Thursday to somewhat bustling crowds on Friday), it does seem like the literal weekend warriors arrived today (Friday) and will definitely be gone by Monday, presumably.

Considering that dudes will spend a lot of time watching the game on Sunday, I don’t see how a lot of chicas are gonna make any real $$$ in such a small window of time. Maybe that reality will cause them to stop with the ridiculous price quotes. Smh.
This aint hard to figure out at this point.  But I feel similarly.  There are so many chicks on the scene.  Some chicks will make some money, no doubt, but I also believe enough chicks will be like mannequins in a display window.   Seen on display, but not used. 

Some chicks who were used to making a windfall during this time,  may be disappointed if they end up making a lot less than what they were accustomed to. 

It does seem obvious to me, that even though a lot of guys come to Sosua thirsty,  it still appears that enough men arent pulling the trigger on chicks, until they are sure of making a move.   I know I feel that way on my end, most times when it comes to trying someone new. 

I see it even with some white guys at Bar Central or the German restaurant next door.   You see Haitian chicks sitting or standing around for a while sometimes before somebody may talk to them or hire them.   I think even some of those guys try to avoid having a chick sit with them, only to end up feeding them and quenching their thirst.   

Getting nothing out of it,  except some company.  Of course some guys love doing that.  Those guys like socializing with their mates, just like any other monger.  Chicks sometimes interfere with their fellowship going on. 

IMO the main reality that might invoke a change is, chicks seeing consistent failures in being hired for a long duration.  Not making enough during SBW is not enough incentive, IMO.   Because there will still be guys coming down after SBW to pick up where the other guys may have fell short.     

And also,  I believe chicas think of income on a monthly basis, not necessarily on a daily basis.  In a months time, a chick should have made enough to take care of all of her monthly and daily expenses.  Anything else she earns is gravy.   Sure it's nice having a good day, earning quick cash.    Like getting to eat and drink for free, so they dont have to spend their own money.  Thats a good day.  Dudes paying for a chicks transpo,  thats a good day.   A chick getting unexpected cash for doing nothing, thats a good day.

Chicks convincing 8 to 10 dudes to send her money for whatever lie or convenient excuse she can come up with.  Rent, birthdays, electricity, you name it.   There will always be guys sending supplemental income.   With all of this money circulating from guys, I dont see chicks getting any incentive to lower their expectations from us.   They see us as rich f--ks that have too much money and resources as it is.  We cant hide it.   

The problem is, many chicks are not wired to see their assumed occupation,  and being rehired may mean meeting the demands and satisfaction of their clients.  Many chicks dont give a f--k about satisfying the client, it's about getting his money.   Enough chicks are just very good at hiding their indifference towards mongers.    Same with the motoconcho dudes scooting these chicks around.  Those dudes have an opinion about us too.  But it's kept under wraps.  All for the sake of,  they have to make a living off of us. 

Mostly all of their living expenses is much cheaper in their world than it is for us.   Plus they have family to back them up, if they dont have their own places to live.  Plus family helps babysit the kids so the chica can go out to work.   It's a well oiled system,  even though it may seem dysfunctional or chaotic to us.

excellent detailed analysis.  The only thing i would say for the vast majority all the money earned in the Sosua salt mines is gravy Dominicanos trick too but its in the realm if 300 to 500 pesos. And i had a conservation about the differences between mexican spanish and Domincan Spanish in a high end massage parlor in Santo Domingo near the malecon.

Especially during Covid i saw a lot of beauty ship owners and restauranters in the casinos and the nicer hotels on the Malecon supplementing their lost income
If you want a universal view of hoe thought read the sex worker subreddits.

I know a perfume shop proprietor who gives excellent service. Where she falls down is on  punctuality. Meaning shell say shes coming over and not show. The performance is so good That i allow this. i just dont wait her her if she doesnt show i move on.

But as good as the performance i noticed that she keeps it within 2 hours before she has to go. i had problems finishing and she asked.me to make her a cup of joe

I told in the DR usually women make me coffee since anyone who knows me knows im a coffee addict
anyway i made the coffee did a little foreplay and was out the door

I dont blame her for my inability to come but i miggt have been down for another attempt but that wouldve broken the two hour rule.

Again i can go Inside baseball on hoe motivations because it fasinates me. But my overall point is that although she has to deal with the ups and downs of being a business ownet The money she gets from is pure gravy because I dont call chicas they call me and I tell then when i can see them. That and new referrals is basically the way I monger
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 01:56:38 PM
I agree that Merengue and City Lights have way better environment than Rumba.

I Don't know why more people, men and women, don't hang out in Merengue.

people go where they know. Yall think people hate creep camners 90% of the film the beach, and Rumbas and Bailees exclusively. Im not sure if they still flim the atrium.(and only the Atrium) at the casinos.

dub dubs see these places and they go straight there.

Its gonna get to the point where creep cammers may charge the spots for free promotion
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 01:59:33 PM
I agree that Merengue and City Lights have way better environment than Rumba.

I Don't know why more people, men and women, don't hang out in Merengue.
I believe it's what I refer to as the "Who is There?" dynamic.  If no mongers are in there, then less chicas will show up.  If there are less chicas in there then less mongers will show up.    Like the problem 2413 Sports Bar@ Davids Plaza, had.  Or High Society next door to Davids Plaza.

If i were the owner of those places Id pay hoes to hang out and start a creep cam youtube channel
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 02:13:27 PM
Just my opinion :

Kings has taken over as the best place for chicas to go ( in the evening ) where they may get the most exposure.  Plus, if you recall back in 2010 up until lets say 2014,  more chicks usually piled up inside of venues, with only a minimal amount of chicas patrolling the strip and around the blocks.   

Fast forward to now,  and the practice of chicas on patrol in the streets has picked up a lot in the last few years.  Many of these chicks these days, are dressed for walking for miles on the strip,  and for running from the cops.  I bet if some of those chicks had the Samsung Health app on, many would have put in about 20,000 steps per day.     

Chicks on patrol are trying to snag clients before they even get to venues.  Thats another reason some chicks sit up in Kings for hours at a time, without scoring a client,  except for exchanging numbers.  Even in the last 2 years,  chicks standing outside of Bailee's were sometimes scoring clients outside without even going inside of Bailees to spend any money.   

Remember when Bourbon Street was open.  That was a cool meeting place too.  Sometimes chicks sat around there for hours while all of that elevator Jazz was playing in the background.  Many chicks looking bored as a f--k.  Those that scored clients were happy to finally get work.   Meanwhile on the street chicks were patrolling the strip like extras in a movie.   Those that had the right look,  they got clients that might have been on their way to a venue.

So with Merengue,  they have a lot of detriments to overcome.  Plenty of patrolling streetwalkers on deck.  Plenty of other places to go where chicks and guys are more exposed.  A dude can sit at Chez Montreal and snatch a chick up thats just standing on the corner.   He doesnt have to meet her inside,  like what a guy would do at Merengue,  hoping chicks are inside looking for work.  Same with Kings.  A dude can sit outside on the patio area of Kings and pluck chicas on patrol right from the sidewalk.   Cant do that sitting at the bar at Merengue.   Not unless you are sitting close to the window.   

The chicks with the most exposure, they are the ones getting a nice chunk of the business.  IMO if more chicks were also good at inspiring repeat business they would do pretty good.  But too often, many of these chicks are only good for one session, and done.   Also what goes along with patrolling SW is the potential perception of them being more hardcore and untrustworthy.   Many dont offer a vibe inspiring guys to hire them.   But enough of them get by because they look very f--kable.

This is the click and point that dudes want same thing in Parque lleras in Medellin. Dudes sit at tables facing out and point at the girls they want and they come over.

The average dub dub is looking for validation which is why they fly thousands of miles to pop bottles that they could do back home

a guy with 48 hours boots on ground is looking for dime first and foremost Dimes worldwide tend to be pillow princesses unless they know they guy well.

Besides what do dub dubs do they get head then backshot hoes for 10 mins and nut. Getting the all important picture to front that their increditable game got this chica or that she is their girl is where the focus is.

again outside of maybe a church you can pick up anywhere on the island the sole reason Sosua exists and thrive is because a dub dub could book a jet blue flight stay at the seabreeze and have 3 happy hours a day
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 02:19:57 PM
What I think is going on a lot is, mongers and chicas do more contact exchanging than actually seeing them getting up and walking together to handle their business.  We see it all of the time.  Chicks on patrol on the street,  or at the beach, or at a venue.  Chick passes by,  catches a guys eye.  Guy calls her over.  Whips out his phone, hands it to the chick to put her number in, or he enters the info himself.  Thats SOP these days.

The interaction we used to see between mongers and chicas has been reduced to that common practice.  Sometimes chicas are hardly engaging with the guy that stopped her.  Sometimes no eye contact.  Almost like, "Ok ninja, I'll give you my number even though you are just wasting my time"   

As soon as the chick walks away,  her getting a call back is 40/60.   And they know it.  Many guys just like flirting with chicks.  It kinda makes up for all of the rejection they're accustomed to getting from the women, where they are from. 

Some chicks with a slight desperate streak will try to get the guys number, so they can Whatsapp him in case he doesnt reach out 1st.   This also strokes the male mongers ego to a certain extent.   If chicks were all that good,  or doing very well,  they wouldnt need to pursue customers.   

Dudes would be waiting their turn to get with them.  The biggest problem is the unknown for enough guys.   They like what they see,  but unsure if they should take the risk of wasting their money or their time on a particular chick in front of them.   Subconsciously, if it looks too good to be true ( of good quality ), it may not be worth pursuing. 

Some of these chicks are just not fun to sit with and entertain.  Plus the language barrier.  But even chicks that speak perfect English,  many of them outside of the bedroom,  they are a waste of a guys time.

Exactly the dubs are hollering at chicks  they cant get at home.

But also some of the few smart  dub dubs are getting numbers to make them bid on a date on chica demands 100 for short time another might take 3000 pesos instead
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 02:22:23 PM

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Yes it's adjacent.  However,  #67 Aris restaurant and #74 Mofongo King are separated by the exit path.   

If you are facing the exit path, #74 Mofongo King is on the right, and #67 Aris restaurant is on the left.   Starting at #67 and working your way left, is Joeselito's restaurant.  He is #66,  continue left is Dominics restaurant #65.   Then left of Dominics is #64 Jorge/Mayra restaurant, which is physically closed there but their kitchen is now at #87.  They have a few tables in the sand by #64,  and also at #87 where the kitchen is now.

Now they have a lot further to travel to serve food and beverages to customers sitting near #64 area. 

#64/#87 Jorge Mayra restaurant has decent Red Snapper fish.  I like the way they season their fish.  Aris restaurant too.  Aris gives you decent amount of food for your money.  Aris does a good job with their cocktails and soft drinks.

Thanks. It seems like every time I sit and eat and the Mofongo King, there’s always a group of dudes eating at that restaurant Aris with their chicas, playing hip hop on their boom box to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear it. Every time as I walking at the beach and go past Aris restaurant, the girl with the menu always try to persuade me to sit and eat that place, but I always refuse and one day she asked as I was leaving the Mofongo King, walking past,  why won’t I eat there? I told her that her restaurant was too god damn loud!

you do know Carribean culture is to blast music as loud as possible right?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 03:59:10 PM

Thanks. It seems like every time I sit and eat and the Mofongo King, there’s always a group of dudes eating at that restaurant Aris with their chicas, playing hip hop on their boom box to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear it. Every time as I walking at the beach and go past Aris restaurant, the girl with the menu always try to persuade me to sit and eat that place, but I always refuse and one day she asked as I was leaving the Mofongo King, walking past,  why won’t I eat there? I told her that her restaurant was too god damn loud!
My bad.   Aris restaurant is not the one with the chicks with menus.  I believe you are referring to Joselitos restaurant #66 which is right on the corner ( of the walk path and the exit path ).  Dominics #65 also has a chick standing out front with menus trying to get people to eat there.     

It just so happens, that Aris restaurant and Joselitos restaurant both are separated from Mofongo King by the entrance/exit path.   Aris restaurant though,  sits a few feet in on the exit path, not on the corner.   You may not have even noticed it.  Because its slightly around the corner from the beach path. 

Aris has two large wooden tables, with benches and umbrellas right in front of his establishment, and some tables/chairs inside.  And those tables/benches in front face the SIDE of Mofongo King ( their bar ).   Aris place is usually quiet.   

Aris also has table/chairs out in the sand where all of those restaurants have designated areas for their customers.   Out in the sand is where all of that loud music is blasting.   That can happen at anybodies table out in the sand.   

I prefer where it's quieter,  so I rarely will sit out in the sand area.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 04:07:51 PM

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Yes it's adjacent.  However,  #67 Aris restaurant and #74 Mofongo King are separated by the exit path.   

If you are facing the exit path, #74 Mofongo King is on the right, and #67 Aris restaurant is on the left.   Starting at #67 and working your way left, is Joeselito's restaurant.  He is #66,  continue left is Dominics restaurant #65.   Then left of Dominics is #64 Jorge/Mayra restaurant, which is physically closed there but their kitchen is now at #87.  They have a few tables in the sand by #64,  and also at #87 where the kitchen is now.

Now they have a lot further to travel to serve food and beverages to customers sitting near #64 area. 

#64/#87 Jorge Mayra restaurant has decent Red Snapper fish.  I like the way they season their fish.  Aris restaurant too.  Aris gives you decent amount of food for your money.  Aris does a good job with their cocktails and soft drinks.

Thanks. It seems like every time I sit and eat and the Mofongo King, there’s always a group of dudes eating at that restaurant Aris with their chicas, playing hip hop on their boom box to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear it. Every time as I walking at the beach and go past Aris restaurant, the girl with the menu always try to persuade me to sit and eat that place, but I always refuse and one day she asked as I was leaving the Mofongo King, walking past,  why won’t I eat there? I told her that her restaurant was too god damn loud!

you do know Carribean culture is to blast music as loud as possible right?
That is a truism.  Because they blast their latin music too.   However the area he is referring to, a lot of New Yorkers, err I mean tourist dudes are blasting their hip hop music at the tables in the sand. 

Sometimes they bring their own music blasting equipment.  And I believe Joselitos and Dominic have their own large speakers, so they can blast music or so their customers can blast their own music while dining at their tables in the sand.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 04:34:57 PM
What I think is going on a lot is, mongers and chicas do more contact exchanging than actually seeing them getting up and walking together to handle their business.  We see it all of the time.  Chicks on patrol on the street,  or at the beach, or at a venue.  Chick passes by,  catches a guys eye.  Guy calls her over.  Whips out his phone, hands it to the chick to put her number in, or he enters the info himself.  Thats SOP these days.

The interaction we used to see between mongers and chicas has been reduced to that common practice.  Sometimes chicas are hardly engaging with the guy that stopped her.  Sometimes no eye contact.  Almost like, "Ok ninja, I'll give you my number even though you are just wasting my time"   

As soon as the chick walks away,  her getting a call back is 40/60.   And they know it.  Many guys just like flirting with chicks.  It kinda makes up for all of the rejection they're accustomed to getting from the women, where they are from. 

Some chicks with a slight desperate streak will try to get the guys number, so they can Whatsapp him in case he doesnt reach out 1st.   This also strokes the male mongers ego to a certain extent.   If chicks were all that good,  or doing very well,  they wouldnt need to pursue customers.   

Dudes would be waiting their turn to get with them.  The biggest problem is the unknown for enough guys.   They like what they see,  but unsure if they should take the risk of wasting their money or their time on a particular chick in front of them.   Subconsciously, if it looks too good to be true ( of good quality ), it may not be worth pursuing. 

Some of these chicks are just not fun to sit with and entertain.  Plus the language barrier.  But even chicks that speak perfect English,  many of them outside of the bedroom,  they are a waste of a guys time.

Exactly the dubs are hollering at chicks  they cant get at home.

But also some of the few smart  dub dubs are getting numbers to make them bid on a date on chica demands 100 for short time another might take 3000 pesos instead
Yes this is true.  Many cats including myself dont like discussing price in person, especially the very moment that we stop a chick.  I guess the idea is to try to pretend theres a natural attraction and vibe going on between us?

Discussing price right off the bat can be a fantasy killer.   Using our phones can be an asset, after the initial meet/greet.  One can negotiate details through Whatsapp.  And also both can save face, in cases where there is no agreement.  Both can also leave things open,  in case either changes their mind.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
I remember another important reason enough guys are reserved when it comes to pulling the trigger on chicks.   Timing!!!   Very often guys spot a lot of chicks they'd like to f--k.  We know sometimes one better get that number right then and there, because we dont know when we may see the chick again. 

BUT, sometimes there's a price to pay for getting a chicks contact information too soon.  For chicks, the moment a guy stops them , the pussy meter starts buzzing.  How many guys have gotten a chicks contact information, but wasnt ready to hire her?  But was seriously considering on making it happen, in their own time?

In the meantime, a guy might bump into many more chicks,  the same way.  Now he has to sort through who he might want get with 1st.  What can and has happened to enough guys?  The guys see the chicks out and about, and then the chicks bust out with an attitude because the guy took her contact info but didnt follow through.  Also seeing the guy with another chick instead of her. 

Sometimes the chick that acts like she's been dissed,  ends up being a missed opportunity because her own ego is on the line.   A guy can literally have a dozen chicks pissed off at him just because he didnt follow through on some chicks time frame.   And thats another reason why some guys may avoid pursuing chicks when they are out and about,  until they are sure they are ready to pull the trigger. 

A lot of chicks start giving guys attitude, the finger, or saying "You bullshit" blah blah blah.   So rather than have to hear all of that noise, enough guys may avoid giving a chick the impression that she is hired just from taking her contact info. 

It's to the point you cant even say hola to a chick on Whatsapp because she is figuring you are contacting her to arrange a session so she can get paid.   So enough guys keep numbers of chicks that they end up not even using.    Guys want good vibes when they are ready to contact a chick, not no stank attitude. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 05:06:13 PM
What I think is going on a lot is, mongers and chicas do more contact exchanging than actually seeing them getting up and walking together to handle their business.  We see it all of the time.  Chicks on patrol on the street,  or at the beach, or at a venue.  Chick passes by,  catches a guys eye.  Guy calls her over.  Whips out his phone, hands it to the chick to put her number in, or he enters the info himself.  Thats SOP these days.

The interaction we used to see between mongers and chicas has been reduced to that common practice.  Sometimes chicas are hardly engaging with the guy that stopped her.  Sometimes no eye contact.  Almost like, "Ok ninja, I'll give you my number even though you are just wasting my time"   

As soon as the chick walks away,  her getting a call back is 40/60.   And they know it.  Many guys just like flirting with chicks.  It kinda makes up for all of the rejection they're accustomed to getting from the women, where they are from. 

Some chicks with a slight desperate streak will try to get the guys number, so they can Whatsapp him in case he doesnt reach out 1st.   This also strokes the male mongers ego to a certain extent.   If chicks were all that good,  or doing very well,  they wouldnt need to pursue customers.   

Dudes would be waiting their turn to get with them.  The biggest problem is the unknown for enough guys.   They like what they see,  but unsure if they should take the risk of wasting their money or their time on a particular chick in front of them.   Subconsciously, if it looks too good to be true ( of good quality ), it may not be worth pursuing. 

Some of these chicks are just not fun to sit with and entertain.  Plus the language barrier.  But even chicks that speak perfect English,  many of them outside of the bedroom,  they are a waste of a guys time.

Exactly the dubs are hollering at chicks  they cant get at home.

But also some of the few smart  dub dubs are getting numbers to make them bid on a date on chica demands 100 for short time another might take 3000 pesos instead
Yes this is true.  Many cats including myself dont like discussing price in person, especially the very moment that we stop a chick.  I guess the idea is to try to pretend theres a natural attraction and vibe going on between us?

Discussing price right off the bat can be a fantasy killer.   Using our phones can be an asset, after the initial meet/greet.  One can negotiate details through Whatsapp.  And also both can save face, in cases where there is no agreement.  Both can also leave things open,  in case either changes their mind.   

also its evidence in case the chica changes up you have price agreed on. and for dudes who like them seconds over 18 they can take pictures of cedulas i know and SD pat who keeps pictures of all cedulas front and back sounds like overkill but it might save your ass
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 11, 2023, 05:24:25 PM

also its evidence in case the chica changes up you have price agreed on. and for dudes who like them seconds over 18 they can take pictures of cedulas i know and SD pat who keeps pictures of all cedulas front and back sounds like overkill but it might save your ass
Taking pics of cedulas makes perfect sense.   Especially where I live, because our security does not hold ID's of chicks.   

I never felt secure,  that I could rely on Whatsapp as evidence of a price agreement.   Because who am I  relying on to examine my evidence, and make some chick relent?   I always felt that a chick could easily circumvent whats on my phone  by changing up on the fly.  She can say, that was the original agreement, but things changed and we didnt use whatsapp.   She can claim the guy did something that has nothing to do with the price/dispute. 

If they are willing to cause a scene, I can expect them to lie about what the dispute is all about. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 11, 2023, 06:36:03 PM

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Yes it's adjacent.  However,  #67 Aris restaurant and #74 Mofongo King are separated by the exit path.   

If you are facing the exit path, #74 Mofongo King is on the right, and #67 Aris restaurant is on the left.   Starting at #67 and working your way left, is Joeselito's restaurant.  He is #66,  continue left is Dominics restaurant #65.   Then left of Dominics is #64 Jorge/Mayra restaurant, which is physically closed there but their kitchen is now at #87.  They have a few tables in the sand by #64,  and also at #87 where the kitchen is now.

Now they have a lot further to travel to serve food and beverages to customers sitting near #64 area. 

#64/#87 Jorge Mayra restaurant has decent Red Snapper fish.  I like the way they season their fish.  Aris restaurant too.  Aris gives you decent amount of food for your money.  Aris does a good job with their cocktails and soft drinks.

Thanks. It seems like every time I sit and eat and the Mofongo King, there’s always a group of dudes eating at that restaurant Aris with their chicas, playing hip hop on their boom box to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear it. Every time as I walking at the beach and go past Aris restaurant, the girl with the menu always try to persuade me to sit and eat that place, but I always refuse and one day she asked as I was leaving the Mofongo King, walking past,  why won’t I eat there? I told her that her restaurant was too god damn loud!

you do know Carribean culture is to blast music as loud as possible right?
Dont forget to get on a moto go like a bat out of hell with the loudest muffler! its like guys with big power boats going wide open in a no wake zone !!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 11, 2023, 09:09:10 PM

also its evidence in case the chica changes up you have price agreed on. and for dudes who like them seconds over 18 they can take pictures of cedulas i know and SD pat who keeps pictures of all cedulas front and back sounds like overkill but it might save your ass
Taking pics of cedulas makes perfect sense.   Especially where I live, because our security does not hold ID's of chicks.   

I never felt secure,  that I could rely on Whatsapp as evidence of a price agreement.   Because who am I  relying on to examine my evidence, and make some chick relent?   I always felt that a chick could easily circumvent whats on my phone  by changing up on the fly.  She can say, that was the original agreement, but things changed and we didnt use whatsapp.   She can claim the guy did something that has nothing to do with the price/dispute. 

If they are willing to cause a scene, I can expect them to lie about what the dispute is all about.

theres a risk invovled unless it was more than Grand if the chica changes up i would just pay off.

This is where living in a non Gynocentric country has its benefits a cop shows up he can make a judgement call. Throw in a donation to the Patrolmens benevolent fund and its squashed.

But if youre scared you can record anything thats said in your room. Everyone has their own confort level of risk.

The DR is the 4th most corrupt country in the western hemisphere money talks
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 12, 2023, 08:09:57 PM
February 12, 2023  Super Bowl Sunday.   

A mild but decent crowd of guys at various venues on or near the strip.  Most guys were already where they intended to be.  I did see some guys walking around,  like they were making their way to Kings or just out being curious.   

Kings, full of guys and chicks inside, from what I could see.  @7:30pm a lot of people trying to get into Kings as well.  Fat Jessies had it's seating area full in that plaza, they had a barricade of sorts setup, to let in only paying customers.  Not sure if they were sponsering that space with Mile High who has their bar/restaurant upstairs. 

Merengue Bar looked full as far as the bar seats being full.  Chicks and guys.  Maybe more guys.   Not the entire place was full.  Brick Flame had patrons and chicas up in there.  Coco Loco had a small crowd of patrons and chicks outside.  Not many chicks on the sidewalk at Merengue.  A few chicks standing in front of the Chinese store but closer to the German restaurant.  Mostly Haitian chicas.   Once you got past the Chinese store, you only saw a few chicks when you got to the corner.   

Small crowd of white guys at the German Bar. Im assuming they werent interested in watching the game.  Mr Flip Flop had a decent crowd.  Not hard to fill his place, because it's kinda small.  But some serious football watching was going on.  Maybe some chicas that usually patrol,  passed through there looking for work.  Guys looking but paying attention more to the game.

Chez Montreal corner was full of patrons, looked like a bunch of "New Yorkers", and a good amount of chicas on the sidewalk in front.  Chicks hungry looking for work.   Passed by Alexs Jamaican restaurant on Dr Rosen. He had a few tables with patrons set outside, and he was showing the game.  Heard he had an all you can eat buffet, plus the game ( for a fee ). 

New Garden had the game on, with a small crowd up in there.  Mostly white guys from what I could see.  But it seemed quiet.   Cheers and Plan B had their usual crowd.   Quieter in Plan B, than in Cheers.  Cheers had the game on.   Ramonas bar had an average crowd.    They might have had the game on,  not sure

It was definitely a sausage fest this evening ( to be expected of course, it's game day )  And as far as I could tell,  chicks were not going to be making any money until after the game and until the crowds dispersed.   There were a lot of chicas out tonight, but overall,  the guys appeared to me, they outnumbered the chicas.   Plus, a lot of guys were not out on the strip,  they were probably watching the game somewhere else, in their hotels or villas? 

This is definitely not like Super Bowl weeks, pre pandemic.  On the positive side,  this year SBW did not have the crazy vibe of having too many people wilding out , like we used to see.   I wouldnt be surprised if some guys liked this vibe more,  than prior years. 

Plenty of law enforcement on deck, on corners, on foot patrol, and riding around on motorbikes , with the pickup parked in the same spot, just like the previous night I was out.   But it's not just the Politur Police Im seeing, only.   The extra police look more military, in their camouflage fatigues.  One guy looks like he was wearing riot gear ( he may not have been the only one ).

Another thing I noticed.  I dont see any of the female Politur police on the strip like I used to see.   I also noticed, I did not see or feel a presence of a lot of Haitian males in the area.   Almost as if many of them have been deliberately removed from hanging in the area.   It will be interesting after tonight,  how quick the town thins out due to the volume of guys that may be leaving next week.     

Not many chicks on foot patrol.  They were much safer staying close to an open venue.  The police on motorbikes were circling the block over and over, even earlier in the day.  And they had no problem plucking chicas up off of the street if they caught them.   

That is a quick report.   It's about 9pm now.  I dont think my report will be much different after the game, other than chicks may finally get the opportunity of trying to drum up some business.   I strongly believe, the guys out tonight, have more leverage than the chicas do.  Hope some guys do well.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 12, 2023, 09:59:11 PM
February 12, 2023  Super Bowl Sunday.   

A mild but decent crowd of guys at various venues on or near the strip.  Most guys were already where they intended to be.  I did see some guys walking around,  like they were making their way to Kings or just out being curious.   

Kings, full of guys and chicks inside, from what I could see.  @7:30pm a lot of people trying to get into Kings as well.  Fat Jessies had it's seating area full in that plaza, they had a barricade of sorts setup, to let in only paying customers.  Not sure if they were sponsering that space with Mile High who has their bar/restaurant upstairs. 

Merengue Bar looked full as far as the bar seats being full.  Chicks and guys.  Maybe more guys.   Not the entire place was full.  Brick Flame had patrons and chicas up in there.  Coco Loco had a small crowd of patrons and chicks outside.  Not many chicks on the sidewalk at Merengue.  A few chicks standing in front of the Chinese store but closer to the German restaurant.  Mostly Haitian chicas.   Once you got past the Chinese store, you only saw a few chicks when you got to the corner.   

Small crowd of white guys at the German Bar. Im assuming they werent interested in watching the game.  Mr Flip Flop had a decent crowd.  Not hard to fill his place, because it's kinda small.  But some serious football watching was going on.  Maybe some chicas that usually patrol,  passed through there looking for work.  Guys looking but paying attention more to the game.

Chez Montreal corner was full of patrons, looked like a bunch of "New Yorkers", and a good amount of chicas on the sidewalk in front.  Chicks hungry looking for work.   Passed by Alexs Jamaican restaurant on Dr Rosen. He had a few tables with patrons set outside, and he was showing the game.  Heard he had an all you can eat buffet, plus the game ( for a fee ). 

New Garden had the game on, with a small crowd up in there.  Mostly white guys from what I could see.  But it seemed quiet.   Cheers and Plan B had their usual crowd.   Quieter in Plan B, than in Cheers.  Cheers had the game on.   Ramonas bar had an average crowd.    They might have had the game on,  not sure

It was definitely a sausage fest this evening ( to be expected of course, it's game day )  And as far as I could tell,  chicks were not going to be making any money until after the game and until the crowds dispersed.   There were a lot of chicas out tonight, but overall,  the guys appeared to me, they outnumbered the chicas.   Plus, a lot of guys were not out on the strip,  they were probably watching the game somewhere else, in their hotels or villas? 

This is definitely not like Super Bowl weeks, pre pandemic.  On the positive side,  this year SBW did not have the crazy vibe of having too many people wilding out , like we used to see.   I wouldnt be surprised if some guys liked this vibe more,  than prior years. 

Plenty of law enforcement on deck, on corners, on foot patrol, and riding around on motorbikes , with the pickup parked in the same spot, just like the previous night I was out.   But it's not just the Politur Police Im seeing, only.   The extra police look more military, in their camouflage fatigues.  One guy looks like he was wearing riot gear ( he may not have been the only one ).

Another thing I noticed.  I dont see any of the female Politur police on the strip like I used to see.   I also noticed, I did not see or feel a presence of a lot of Haitian males in the area.   Almost as if many of them have been deliberately removed from hanging in the area.   It will be interesting after tonight,  how quick the town thins out due to the volume of guys that may be leaving next week.     

Not many chicks on foot patrol.  They were much safer staying close to an open venue.  The police on motorbikes were circling the block over and over, even earlier in the day.  And they had no problem plucking chicas up off of the street if they caught them.   

That is a quick report.   It's about 9pm now.  I dont think my report will be much different after the game, other than chicks may finally get the opportunity of trying to drum up some business.   I strongly believe, the guys out tonight, have more leverage than the chicas do.  Hope some guys do well.   

Another fantastic and incredibly detailed report from a reliable source. Thank you good sir. 💯

The report confirms the suspicions I’ve always had: that Super Bowl weekend was a typically exaggerated event that went on to reach mythic proportions.

It’s an American event in the United States; so as to why this event would be something allegedly so huge in the Dominican Republic that dudes HAD to just fly down there to watch it, was always beyond belief to me.

I think that the appearance of an influx of dudes in Sosua on Super Bowl Sunday, are probably just a high number of expats that all decided to come out at the same time, and dudes that just happened to already be visiting the Su in general (outside of any Super Bowl reason). I speculate that these aforementioned factors created an illusion that the Super Bowl was some huge event in DR when it never really was.

I’m glad I never wasted my money flying down at this time.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 13, 2023, 03:47:46 AM
I personnally think its an excuse for dub dubs to travel.

its like going to vegas or miami but cheaper. That being said it absolutely got marketed by the youtubers and proprietors on the strip.

But if price and performance matters to you more than "turning up" with 20 similarly clad buddies squezzed into the  smallest villa in Casa Linda then yeah its a terrible time to be in sosua
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on February 13, 2023, 08:02:33 AM
@Murano great report of the situation on the ground I was there for last years Supberbowl and as I said it really wasn't some big event more dudes out and about but the same girls that had been there the months prior. It was my first Superbowl so I put the lack of a massive crowd like I heard about down to covid but who knows. Hopefully we get some trip reports of a few of the other guys in town on this board to give there take on the scene.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 13, 2023, 08:24:03 AM
Good report ! seems like a complete invasion by Jet Blue NY was not so. well the good thing. seems like no one got stabed robbed or killed
.or drowned. as big sea conditioms made swiming no bunea. Im going to predick as the high season wanes Sosua going to be very slow...i wont say ghost town but ,with economic conditions folks may not make many trips or scale back...as far as the family tourist they will come as long as folks dont run up there credit cards or just say f--k it an dont travel  every ones gas tanks are on fumes ,some folks are pay check to pay check.....  best of luck sirs !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 13, 2023, 08:24:28 AM
@Murano great report of the situation on the ground I was there for last years Supberbowl and as I said it really wasn't some big event more dudes out and about but the same girls that had been there the months prior. It was my first Superbowl so I put the lack of a massive crowd like I heard about down to covid but who knows. Hopefully we get some trip reports of a few of the other guys in town on this board to give there take on the scene.
Now hearing from the guys who were here for SBW, that would truly be interesting.  My report only glosses over visuals while out and about.  Some trip reports would be truly eye opening.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 13, 2023, 08:44:30 AM
@Murano great report of the situation on the ground I was there for last years Supberbowl and as I said it really wasn't some big event more dudes out and about but the same girls that had been there the months prior. It was my first Superbowl so I put the lack of a massive crowd like I heard about down to covid but who knows. Hopefully we get some trip reports of a few of the other guys in town on this board to give there take on the scene.

It also can’t be overlooked that the monger herd in general has also thinned out a bit.

1. All the Covid PPP & unemployment money has been thoroughly burned through by the newbies, weekend warriors, and pookies. You won’t be seeing these particular types of travelers for a long time, because monger travel was not ever something they were normally able to afford in the first place. Not before the temporary government money handouts.

2. The vet monger herd has spread out a bit, in order to avoid overrun locations.

We can assume that these factors have or will stabilize the size of monger crowds in a lot of different places.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 13, 2023, 08:55:18 AM
February 12, 2023   Super Bowl Sunday

I spotted a chick in front of the Chinese store yesterday mid afternoon.  Got a nice smile as I was driving by.  I pulled over and walked back to check her out.  Turns out, it was a Haitian chick I bumped into pre-pandemic.   

Back then we had failed negotiations.  She wanted 3000 pesos for ST.  She was very new to the scene, and a little slimmer but had a nice body.  Horrible wig.   Today she still has a nice body but looking noticeably older ( with a wig ) and more seasoned about the hustle. 

I have watched her over the years, and seen how she rolls.  Back then her preferred client leaned more towards white guys.  At least it appeared that way.  Now she seems to be a lot more flexible in the game because the money probably aint flowing as much as she would like.  She also knows her kind is dwindling from the market.   A lot of chicks ( especially Haitianas ) are getting picked up left and right by police. 

It's interesting how some chicks that I would find to be reasonably attractive, still have to stand around looking for work, instead of being in demand.  I assume she may have a few regulars to keep her busy.  But IMO,  chicks that are good providers,  they usually get snatched up and wifed up.   Maybe she aint any good, and thats why she is standing around looking for work? 

Me thinks enough of these chicks dont get that far, because they really arent wired for performing satisfactorily, it's just about getting paid.  Plus enough of these chicks have their real boyfriends/husbands either here or back home that they are probably supporting.

Anyway,  I told her I remembered her, and Im assuming she remembered me from being on the scene ( not necessarily from our past encounter ).    She said she changed her number.  And now, I hear some English coming out of her.  Later she texted me in English.   At 3:30pm she was already texting me to see if I was home.  I lied and told her Id be home by 7.   I went out at 7:30pm to check out the scene.

By 11:30pm I think the game had just finished.  Then she texts me to ask me if  we are going to make love.  So Im thinking, this chick may have been standing around most of the afternoon, and evening looking for work.  Didnt get any during the game.   Everybody started dispersing and now her and all of her competition is scrambling to get guys to hire them.   At this point she is a needle in a haystack.   

So what does she do?  Reach out to the potential client she bumped into earlier ( Me ).   I told her,  what I can give her until 8am.  And I told her what I wanted in the bedroom.  She didnt appear to have a problem with the amount, but she said she couldnt perform what I wanted.  To which I said, no problem.  Have a good night.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JayMillz on February 13, 2023, 10:05:51 AM
I think a lot more Passport Bros and dudes in general are in Colombia, Thailand, Brazil and Costa Rica this year.  The guys with a vested interest in tourism in Sosua are still hyping up the Super Bowl and holidays.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on February 13, 2023, 10:10:58 AM

Is restaurant #64, adjacent to the Mofongo King, that is separated by an exit way???
Yes it's adjacent.  However,  #67 Aris restaurant and #74 Mofongo King are separated by the exit path.   

If you are facing the exit path, #74 Mofongo King is on the right, and #67 Aris restaurant is on the left.   Starting at #67 and working your way left, is Joeselito's restaurant.  He is #66,  continue left is Dominics restaurant #65.   Then left of Dominics is #64 Jorge/Mayra restaurant, which is physically closed there but their kitchen is now at #87.  They have a few tables in the sand by #64,  and also at #87 where the kitchen is now.

Now they have a lot further to travel to serve food and beverages to customers sitting near #64 area. 

#64/#87 Jorge Mayra restaurant has decent Red Snapper fish.  I like the way they season their fish.  Aris restaurant too.  Aris gives you decent amount of food for your money.  Aris does a good job with their cocktails and soft drinks.

Thanks. It seems like every time I sit and eat and the Mofongo King, there’s always a group of dudes eating at that restaurant Aris with their chicas, playing hip hop on their boom box to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear it. Every time as I walking at the beach and go past Aris restaurant, the girl with the menu always try to persuade me to sit and eat that place, but I always refuse and one day she asked as I was leaving the Mofongo King, walking past,  why won’t I eat there? I told her that her restaurant was too god damn loud!

you do know Carribean culture is to blast music as loud as possible right?

I’ve been going to Sosua beach since 2006 and never seen Dominicans blasting Hip Hop music up to the highest volume so that the entire beach to hear! They don’t even play Latin music that loud!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 13, 2023, 01:18:11 PM
@Murano great report of the situation on the ground I was there for last years Supberbowl and as I said it really wasn't some big event more dudes out and about but the same girls that had been there the months prior. It was my first Superbowl so I put the lack of a massive crowd like I heard about down to covid but who knows. Hopefully we get some trip reports of a few of the other guys in town on this board to give there take on the scene.

It also can’t be overlooked that the monger herd in general has also thinned out a bit.

1. All the Covid PPP & unemployment money has been thoroughly burned through by the newbies, weekend warriors, and pookies. You won’t be seeing these particular types of travelers for a long time, because monger travel was not ever something they were normally able to afford in the first place. Not before the temporary government money handouts.

2. The vet monger herd has spread out a bit, in order to avoid overrun locations.

We can assume that these factors have or will stabilize the size of monger crowds in a lot of different places.

All true and adding in Colombia, Thailand and the Phillipines being open takes some of the pressure of the DR.

Some guys are hive minded Taylor decamped to Thailand now Thailand is the best place ever
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: dku2nite on February 13, 2023, 02:42:12 PM
February 12, 2023   Super Bowl Sunday

I spotted a chick in front of the Chinese store yesterday mid afternoon.  Got a nice smile as I was driving by.  I pulled over and walked back to check her out.  Turns out, it was a Haitian chick I bumped into pre-pandemic.   

Back then we had failed negotiations.  She wanted 3000 pesos for ST.  She was very new to the scene, and a little slimmer but had a nice body.  Horrible wig.   Today she still has a nice body but looking noticeably older ( with a wig ) and more seasoned about the hustle. 

I have watched her over the years, and seen how she rolls.  Back then her preferred client leaned more towards white guys.  At least it appeared that way.  Now she seems to be a lot more flexible in the game because the money probably aint flowing as much as she would like.  She also knows her kind is dwindling from the market.   A lot of chicks ( especially Haitianas ) are getting picked up left and right by police. 

It's interesting how some chicks that I would find to be reasonably attractive, still have to stand around looking for work, instead of being in demand.  I assume she may have a few regulars to keep her busy.  But IMO,  chicks that are good providers,  they usually get snatched up and wifed up.   Maybe she aint any good, and thats why she is standing around looking for work? 

Me thinks enough of these chicks dont get that far, because they really arent wired for performing satisfactorily, it's just about getting paid.  Plus enough of these chicks have their real boyfriends/husbands either here or back home that they are probably supporting.

Anyway,  I told her I remembered her, and Im assuming she remembered me from being on the scene ( not necessarily from our past encounter ).    She said she changed her number.  And now, I hear some English coming out of her.  Later she texted me in English.   At 3:30pm she was already texting me to see if I was home.  I lied and told her Id be home by 7.   I went out at 7:30pm to check out the scene.

By 11:30pm I think the game had just finished.  Then she texts me to ask me if  we are going to make love.  So Im thinking, this chick may have been standing around most of the afternoon, and evening looking for work.  Didnt get any during the game.   Everybody started dispersing and now her and all of her competition is scrambling to get guys to hire them.   At this point she is a needle in a haystack.   

So what does she do?  Reach out to the potential client she bumped into earlier ( Me ).   I told her,  what I can give her until 8am.  And I told her what I wanted in the bedroom.  She didnt appear to have a problem with the amount, but she said she couldnt perform what I wanted.  To which I said, no problem.  Have a good night.   

So the amount was good but she wasn't willing to bust it wide open...what the heck did you ask her to do
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 13, 2023, 02:57:16 PM
I guess you guys have a handle on many of the reasons monger presence seems to have diminished in Sosua :

1. Word of mouth opening up opportunities for guys to consider traveling to other places.  We can thank some of the Ytubers for that.  Friends and acquaintances we encounter giving us feedback. 

2. On the other hand.  Flight prices and flight itineraries have been very unfavorable.   Especially when business is slow.   A lot of people for the 1st time were seeing crazy ass prices, and the worst layovers and connections.  In August 2021, I was trying to get from Tampa to POP.  At the time,  the best flight I could get had a 10hr layover in JFK airport.   

And that was only a one way flight itinerary, which was over $800.   In the past Ive paid $460 for a one way flight to POP from Tampa, and even that is too gottdam high.   Flying directly to POP is a luxury.  Cheaper to fly into STI or SDQ, but it can be a hassle getting to Sosua.   And getting back to those airports, when it's time to leave.

3. Some guys may be totally turned off by the scene.  How many of the chicks look, how they behave, the tricks, the BS, the lying and stealing.   

4. Some guys may feel they have outgrown Sosua.  Figuring it's a small town,  and some of the main attractions are not available.   

5. Maybe the police presence, and seeing chicks constantly being harassed and arrested turned enough off from coming?

6. Maybe guys are noticing that things are getting kinda expensive here in Sosua.  The prices of food and drink,  plus taxes.  Less portions and smaller vessels for drinks?   But then again,  that maybe more of an expat issue.  Expats and vets generally know where to dine more affordably, and avoid paying high taxes.

7. As was stated some cats just may not be able to afford to come here.  I bumped into 2 cats yesterday that I met years ago.  They remembered me.   What it is,  a lot more guys ARE traveling to other places.
and they are experiencing a whole different monger experience and vibe.  And they love it.

8. A lot of guys that travel are married and/or in relationships.  Some guys may have just decided to slow down or stopped mongering altogether.   Then there are many guys contemplating on getting married where they come from.   I had a buddy that was also my neighbor here.  Deep down he was trying to make a serious connection with chicks here.   

No matter who he connected with, the constant bullshit he had to deal with lead him to realize,  that he's not really cut out to live here, full-time.  He moved back to the states and back to his house.  And he's back to dating in the states,  with the possibility of getting married or living with a chick.  So for enough cats the monger grass isnt always greener for them.   

Many cats that still like Sosua,  enough of them will drop off from coming, and you wont see them until they decide to come back.  For some that can take years.   Havent we all read reports from guys here telling us how long ago it's been that they visited Sosua?   Well, thats another reasone why the herd has thinned out.   
 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: TheRealDallas on February 13, 2023, 04:54:23 PM
☝🏾 well put

Even this board is dying 😢
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 13, 2023, 04:56:54 PM
Monday February 13th 2023  @1600hrs

Sosua strip looks like it's back to normal.   Regular afternoon,  nothing special going on.  What I like about what Im seeing these past few weeks, is that many of the guys that I see in town, look like ordinary guys with jobs.  A lot of mature aged guys.  They arent wilding out, they arent acting up, I dont see any guys grabbing asses and dry humping chicks,  or making it rain. 

Just a normal scene of guys visiting or staying here.  Shopping at the supermercados, walking or driving back to their places with groceries.   Ive seen a few cars with 3 to 4 guys driving around.  But they arent making a scene.   At most, you may see them pull over to talk to a group of chicas on foot patrol.   Normal shit. 

The only thing I might see that looks less immature ( to me ), are some of the guys riding around like teenagers on 4 wheelers or motorbikes.   Or guys in groups of 4 to 10 all walking together like a team.   But hey, they are all just having fun.  They dont represent everybody else thats here.  Live and let live, right?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 13, 2023, 05:26:56 PM
Monday February 13th 2023  @1600hrs

Sosua strip looks like it's back to normal.   Regular afternoon,  nothing special going on.  What I like about what Im seeing these past few weeks, is that many of the guys that I see in town, look like ordinary guys with jobs.  A lot of mature aged guys.  They arent wilding out, they arent acting up, I dont see any guys grabbing asses and dry humping chicks,  or making it rain. 

Just a normal scene of guys visiting or staying here.  Shopping at the supermercados, walking or driving back to their places with groceries.   Ive seen a few cars with 3 to 4 guys driving around.  But they arent making a scene.   At most, you may see them pull over to talk to a group of chicas on foot patrol.   Normal shit. 

The only thing I might see that looks less immature ( to me ), are some of the guys riding around like teenagers on 4 wheelers or motorbikes.   Or guys in groups of 4 to 10 all walking together like a team.   But hey, they are all just having fun.  They dont represent everybody else thats here.  Live and let live, right?

That’s also my impression. The current crop of guys appear and act more mature. There’s a definite absence of younger under 30 guys here.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 13, 2023, 05:48:23 PM
February 12, 2023  Super Bowl Sunday.   

A mild but decent crowd of guys at various venues on or near the strip.  Most guys were already where they intended to be.  I did see some guys walking around,  like they were making their way to Kings or just out being curious.   

Kings, full of guys and chicks inside, from what I could see.  @7:30pm a lot of people trying to get into Kings as well.  Fat Jessies had it's seating area full in that plaza, they had a barricade of sorts setup, to let in only paying customers.  Not sure if they were sponsering that space with Mile High who has their bar/restaurant upstairs. 

Merengue Bar looked full as far as the bar seats being full.  Chicks and guys.  Maybe more guys.   Not the entire place was full.  Brick Flame had patrons and chicas up in there.  Coco Loco had a small crowd of patrons and chicks outside.  Not many chicks on the sidewalk at Merengue.  A few chicks standing in front of the Chinese store but closer to the German restaurant.  Mostly Haitian chicas.   Once you got past the Chinese store, you only saw a few chicks when you got to the corner.   

Small crowd of white guys at the German Bar. Im assuming they werent interested in watching the game.  Mr Flip Flop had a decent crowd.  Not hard to fill his place, because it's kinda small.  But some serious football watching was going on.  Maybe some chicas that usually patrol,  passed through there looking for work.  Guys looking but paying attention more to the game.

Chez Montreal corner was full of patrons, looked like a bunch of "New Yorkers", and a good amount of chicas on the sidewalk in front.  Chicks hungry looking for work.   Passed by Alexs Jamaican restaurant on Dr Rosen. He had a few tables with patrons set outside, and he was showing the game.  Heard he had an all you can eat buffet, plus the game ( for a fee ). 

New Garden had the game on, with a small crowd up in there.  Mostly white guys from what I could see.  But it seemed quiet.   Cheers and Plan B had their usual crowd.   Quieter in Plan B, than in Cheers.  Cheers had the game on.   Ramonas bar had an average crowd.    They might have had the game on,  not sure

It was definitely a sausage fest this evening ( to be expected of course, it's game day )  And as far as I could tell,  chicks were not going to be making any money until after the game and until the crowds dispersed.   There were a lot of chicas out tonight, but overall,  the guys appeared to me, they outnumbered the chicas.   Plus, a lot of guys were not out on the strip,  they were probably watching the game somewhere else, in their hotels or villas? 

This is definitely not like Super Bowl weeks, pre pandemic.  On the positive side,  this year SBW did not have the crazy vibe of having too many people wilding out , like we used to see.   I wouldnt be surprised if some guys liked this vibe more,  than prior years. 

Plenty of law enforcement on deck, on corners, on foot patrol, and riding around on motorbikes , with the pickup parked in the same spot, just like the previous night I was out.   But it's not just the Politur Police Im seeing, only.   The extra police look more military, in their camouflage fatigues.  One guy looks like he was wearing riot gear ( he may not have been the only one ).

Another thing I noticed.  I dont see any of the female Politur police on the strip like I used to see.   I also noticed, I did not see or feel a presence of a lot of Haitian males in the area.   Almost as if many of them have been deliberately removed from hanging in the area.   It will be interesting after tonight,  how quick the town thins out due to the volume of guys that may be leaving next week.     

Not many chicks on foot patrol.  They were much safer staying close to an open venue.  The police on motorbikes were circling the block over and over, even earlier in the day.  And they had no problem plucking chicas up off of the street if they caught them.   

That is a quick report.   It's about 9pm now.  I dont think my report will be much different after the game, other than chicks may finally get the opportunity of trying to drum up some business.   I strongly believe, the guys out tonight, have more leverage than the chicas do.  Hope some guys do well.   

Another fantastic and incredibly detailed report from a reliable source. Thank you good sir. 💯

The report confirms the suspicions I’ve always had: that Super Bowl weekend was a typically exaggerated event that went on to reach mythic proportions.

It’s an American event in the United States; so as to why this event would be something allegedly so huge in the Dominican Republic that dudes HAD to just fly down there to watch it, was always beyond belief to me.

I think that the appearance of an influx of dudes in Sosua on Super Bowl Sunday, are probably just a high number of expats that all decided to come out at the same time, and dudes that just happened to already be visiting the Su in general (outside of any Super Bowl reason). I speculate that these aforementioned factors created an illusion that the Super Bowl was some huge event in DR when it never really was.

I’m glad I never wasted my money flying down at this time.
Agreed SBW is a non event for Dominicans, except for those that own bars. All business owners want to cash-in on what is normally a slow day (Sunday). They offer cheap drinks and food to get the crowds in, for the expat crowd its just another excuse to party with friends.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 13, 2023, 07:58:27 PM
Monday February 13th 2023  @1600hrs

Sosua strip looks like it's back to normal.   Regular afternoon,  nothing special going on.  What I like about what Im seeing these past few weeks, is that many of the guys that I see in town, look like ordinary guys with jobs.  A lot of mature aged guys.  They arent wilding out, they arent acting up, I dont see any guys grabbing asses and dry humping chicks,  or making it rain. 

Just a normal scene of guys visiting or staying here.  Shopping at the supermercados, walking or driving back to their places with groceries.   Ive seen a few cars with 3 to 4 guys driving around.  But they arent making a scene.   At most, you may see them pull over to talk to a group of chicas on foot patrol.   Normal shit. 

The only thing I might see that looks less immature ( to me ), are some of the guys riding around like teenagers on 4 wheelers or motorbikes.   Or guys in groups of 4 to 10 all walking together like a team.   But hey, they are all just having fun.  They dont represent everybody else thats here.  Live and let live, right?

That’s also my impression. The current crop of guys appear and act more mature. There’s a definite absence of younger under 30 guys here.
It appears to me to be that way as well, Jazzy. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on February 15, 2023, 10:01:05 AM

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All true and adding in Colombia, Thailand and the Phillipines being open takes some of the pressure of the DR.

Some guys are hive minded Taylor decamped to Thailand now Thailand is the best place ever
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Yea that likely is it there was a time where some mongers had the favorite spot and would just keep going there I know that was true for me as from 2013-2015 I only went to Sosua I had heard of other spot but had no desire to see them as Sosua to me was that good.Now alot of mongers go everywhere. Also during covid everywhere was closed so Sosua even if it was in decline it had a influx of dudes due to everywhere  else being closed. I've seen Taylor out in town as well as other faces from Sosua that now live here so that is part of it. With Thailand being so far away dudes didn't want to come all the way out here and not like it but with youtube and message boards around dudes can see the chicks that are there to be had and then decide to go as they know what's there already.

Also Pattaya is cheaper than Sosua so if your going for a two week trip the money can break close to even with the flight being double.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 15, 2023, 11:24:37 AM
2 or for week vist should be plebty of time to enjoy the thia girls   probably more pussy selection  cheaper than sosua. food and pussy wise !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 15, 2023, 03:00:55 PM


All true and adding in Colombia, Thailand and the Phillipines being open takes some of the pressure of the DR.

Some guys are hive minded Taylor decamped to Thailand now Thailand is the best place ever
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Yea that likely is it there was a time where some mongers had the favorite spot and would just keep going there I know that was true for me as from 2013-2015 I only went to Sosua I had heard of other spot but had no desire to see them as Sosua to me was that good.Now alot of mongers go everywhere. Also during covid everywhere was closed so Sosua even if it was in decline it had a influx of dudes due to everywhere  else being closed. I've seen Taylor out in town as well as other faces from Sosua that now live here so that is part of it. With Thailand being so far away dudes didn't want to come all the way out here and not like it but with youtube and message boards around dudes can see the chicks that are there to be had and then decide to go as they know what's there already.

Also Pattaya is cheaper than Sosua so if your going for a two week trip the money can break close to even with the flight being double.
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It what way is Pattaya cheaper than Sosua?  We all know about Thai imfamous street food so Dollar for Dollar where is cheaper for accomodations, sit down restaurants and pussy?

Even the Pussy we have to put an asterisk on Bar Girls so to do a proper pound for pound lets talk of pure freesylers and Tinder chicks.

I hear people on the forums talking about the insane plane prices so that was probaly a factor as well.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 16, 2023, 08:33:56 AM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 16, 2023, 08:41:01 AM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.
Now in that case, this one time I have to agree with the girl, a misfit out there flossing, showboating and trying to be big time. All the girls (even the 1’s - 4’s) should look to tax his silly ass..

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 16, 2023, 10:28:55 AM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.
If chicas thinking that it's ok to assume and treat every individual who is NOT making it rain, like the fools that are making it rain,  then hell yes I feel I can knock them.   

In any other form of business,  chicas, hell Dominicans and Haitians are extremely capable of sorting out the people they are doing business with.  The very act of entering into negotiations sets the tone that two  individuals are about to work out an agreement. 

Those make it rain guys represent themselves, they dont represent guys unlike them.  The main thing they may have in common with any other monger/trick on the scene, is that by a locals standards they both are considered rich.   And thats the problem.   That is a default setting many chicas ( locals ) may have regardless of whether or not some guys are making fools of themselves. 

Just the mere fact that we pay the airfares ( and everything else we pay for ) is enough to have locals thinking we should be willing and able to pay more.   From paying more for an avocado to paying more for some pussy.   They may feel we should accept losses for theft, and happlily pay their expenses ( dining, transpo, phone minutes etc ).   Were already targeted for financial abuse. 

It doesnt take making it rain in order to spark the kind of negativity and grift mentality that comes from locals towards us.  From the foot venders to the motoconcho drivers who sound like children asking grown ass men if they want a ride.   Chicas default setting.  They dont necessarily like or respect us.   Many dont even know anything about us.   Nothing.  Only what we volunteer to tell them, us acting like they give a shit. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: JayMillz on February 16, 2023, 10:42:15 AM
2 or for week vist should be plebty of time to enjoy the thia girls   probably more pussy selection  cheaper than sosua. food and pussy wise !

I couldn't do less than a month in Thailand.  So much to see and enjoy and the flight is so long.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 16, 2023, 10:46:17 AM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.
If chicas thinking that it's ok to assume and treat every individual who is NOT making it rain, like the fools that are making it rain,  then hell yes I feel I can knock them.   

In any other form of business,  chicas, hell Dominicans and Haitians are extremely capable of sorting out the people they are doing business with.  The very act of entering into negotiations sets the tone that two  individuals are about to work out an agreement. 

Those make it rain guys represent themselves, they dont represent guys unlike them.  The main thing they may have in common with any other monger/trick on the scene, is that by a locals standards they both are considered rich.   And thats the problem.   That is a default setting many chicas ( locals ) may have regardless of whether or not some guys are making fools of themselves. 

Just the mere fact that we pay the airfares ( and everything else we pay for ) is enough to have locals thinking we should be willing and able to pay more.   From paying more for an avocado to paying more for some pussy.   They may feel we should accept losses for theft, and happlily pay their expenses ( dining, transpo, phone minutes etc ).   Were already targeted for financial abuse. 

It doesnt take making it rain in order to spark the kind of negativity and grift mentality that comes from locals towards us.  From the foot venders to the motoconcho drivers who sound like children asking grown ass men if they want a ride.   Chicas default setting.  They dont necessarily like or respect us.   Many dont even know anything about us.   Nothing.  Only what we volunteer to tell them, us acting like they give a shit.

Murano,

I agree with you. I’m just saying that the behavior of these “make it rain” fools are reinforcing the innate biases the chicas and the locals already have against all of us.

They see a gringo throwing money and they make no distinction between that particular foreign fool and every other gringo. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 16, 2023, 10:47:35 AM
2 or for week vist should be plebty of time to enjoy the thia girls   probably more pussy selection  cheaper than sosua. food and pussy wise !

I couldn't do less than a month in Thailand.  So much to see and enjoy and the flight is so long.

Went for 5 weeks more than 30 years ago. But... I took sand the beach. Who knew?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 16, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
Ya know I am one who was never a fan of casas.  But I must say,  back when Sosua had La Passions or CMP,  and when I think about all of the casas in Colombia, Brazil and Thailand,  I can see why that business model can work out well for some guys.   Once you have people who have a savage mentality under appropriate supervision, thats when you can enjoy the benefits.   Like Black Beards, and Field of Dreams back then. 

Same with customer service in the states.  You see how efficient things can be when you have strict rules and guidelines that employees have to follow?  "This call will be monitored for quality assurance"   Now the muthablubba that would normally give you hell,  is forced to be respectful.  Forced to give you quality service/assistance.  Forced to let you talk to a supervisor if requested. 

Now lets apply what were dealing with in Sosua.   I aint even going to say shit.  We already know what the problem is.  It aint just mongers causing the things that we see and the problems we encounter.   These chicks, and locals in general do not have any structure or anybody to answer to.   So the monger game is run amuck by people on both sides with no monger or chica code of ethics, except to do whatever you think you can get away with. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 16, 2023, 11:01:56 AM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.
If chicas thinking that it's ok to assume and treat every individual who is NOT making it rain, like the fools that are making it rain,  then hell yes I feel I can knock them.   

In any other form of business,  chicas, hell Dominicans and Haitians are extremely capable of sorting out the people they are doing business with.  The very act of entering into negotiations sets the tone that two  individuals are about to work out an agreement. 

Those make it rain guys represent themselves, they dont represent guys unlike them.  The main thing they may have in common with any other monger/trick on the scene, is that by a locals standards they both are considered rich.   And thats the problem.   That is a default setting many chicas ( locals ) may have regardless of whether or not some guys are making fools of themselves. 

Just the mere fact that we pay the airfares ( and everything else we pay for ) is enough to have locals thinking we should be willing and able to pay more.   From paying more for an avocado to paying more for some pussy.   They may feel we should accept losses for theft, and happlily pay their expenses ( dining, transpo, phone minutes etc ).   Were already targeted for financial abuse. 

It doesnt take making it rain in order to spark the kind of negativity and grift mentality that comes from locals towards us.  From the foot venders to the motoconcho drivers who sound like children asking grown ass men if they want a ride.   Chicas default setting.  They dont necessarily like or respect us.   Many dont even know anything about us.   Nothing.  Only what we volunteer to tell them, us acting like they give a shit.

Murano,

I agree with you. I’m just saying that the behavior of these “make it rain” fools are reinforcing the innate biases the chicas and the locals already have against all of us.

They see a gringo throwing money and they make no distinction between that particular foreign fool and every other gringo.
I dont know PTC.  I think it's more about guys like you and me are just expressing our embarrassment of seeing guys act like that.   To the locals, the moment we set foot on their soil and started using their resources ( and not really paying enough ),  we were done.

The make it rain guys are no better or worse than the guys buying chicks cars, pasolas, allowing themselves to get cheated, robbed, sending WU thinking they are helping the poor, believing their stories and sending WU.   IMHO, those practices are just as bad.   The make it rain crap is just theater.   Just like conservative DR locals would probably not be happy with seeing their women gyrating their asses and stripping up at Ahnvee or at Wings and Waffles a few nights ago.   

The make it rain guys would not exist if there werent local fools there chasing their money.  I recall way back in 2013.  Me sitting up in Winner Circle seeing some dude make it rain.   I noticed the chick that was sitting next to me in there,  never budged from her seat.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 16, 2023, 12:26:09 PM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.
If chicas thinking that it's ok to assume and treat every individual who is NOT making it rain, like the fools that are making it rain,  then hell yes I feel I can knock them.   

In any other form of business,  chicas, hell Dominicans and Haitians are extremely capable of sorting out the people they are doing business with.  The very act of entering into negotiations sets the tone that two  individuals are about to work out an agreement. 

Those make it rain guys represent themselves, they dont represent guys unlike them.  The main thing they may have in common with any other monger/trick on the scene, is that by a locals standards they both are considered rich.   And thats the problem.   That is a default setting many chicas ( locals ) may have regardless of whether or not some guys are making fools of themselves. 

Just the mere fact that we pay the airfares ( and everything else we pay for ) is enough to have locals thinking we should be willing and able to pay more.   From paying more for an avocado to paying more for some pussy.   They may feel we should accept losses for theft, and happlily pay their expenses ( dining, transpo, phone minutes etc ).   Were already targeted for financial abuse. 

It doesnt take making it rain in order to spark the kind of negativity and grift mentality that comes from locals towards us.  From the foot venders to the motoconcho drivers who sound like children asking grown ass men if they want a ride.   Chicas default setting.  They dont necessarily like or respect us.   Many dont even know anything about us.   Nothing.  Only what we volunteer to tell them, us acting like they give a shit.

Murano,

I agree with you. I’m just saying that the behavior of these “make it rain” fools are reinforcing the innate biases the chicas and the locals already have against all of us.

They see a gringo throwing money and they make no distinction between that particular foreign fool and every other gringo.
I dont know PTC.  I think it's more about guys like you and me are just expressing our embarrassment of seeing guys act like that.   To the locals, the moment we set foot on their soil and started using their resources ( and not really paying enough ),  we were done.

The make it rain guys are no better or worse than the guys buying chicks cars, pasolas, allowing themselves to get cheated, robbed, sending WU thinking they are helping the poor, believing their stories and sending WU.   IMHO, those practices are just as bad.   The make it rain crap is just theater.   Just like conservative DR locals would probably not be happy with seeing their women gyrating their asses and stripping up at Ahnvee or at Wings and Waffles a few nights ago.   

The make it rain guys would not exist if there werent local fools there chasing their money.  I recall way back in 2013.  Me sitting up in Winner Circle seeing some dude make it rain.   I noticed the chick that was sitting next to me in there,  never budged from her seat.

Facts. 💯

By the way, I wish I could somehow post that chica’s Playa Chiquita video. Looked like a sausage party up in there with dudes recording the make it rain cat. Smh. 🤦🏾‍♂️
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 16, 2023, 02:10:21 PM
Any halfway observant individual sees what a dude Making it Rain . is doing.  He has a deep desire to be seen and acknowledged. It has nothing to do with women it's a case of someone never getting attention and attempting to buy attention.

The same way some one feels that they need to have a VIP section In Front of everyone and that's also why the have people bring them bottles with sparklers attached So that everyone can see them. This is also "making it rain"  and just as patethic.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 16, 2023, 02:51:23 PM
Facts. 💯

By the way, I wish I could somehow post that chica’s Playa Chiquita video. Looked like a sausage party up in there with dudes recording the make it rain cat. Smh. 🤦🏾‍♂️
Here's an example of what might be needed   https://www.youtube.com/live/MiiP52rd4lY (https://www.youtube.com/live/MiiP52rd4lY)   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 16, 2023, 04:28:06 PM
I didn't know where to put this but I was told that a Dub Dub spent 25 hours in Sosua before having to fly back for an emergency. Homie admitted to getting 2 hours of sleep and having 6 chicas.

If that doesn't put someone in the Dub Dub all of fame I don't know what will.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 16, 2023, 05:44:49 PM
Man that movie clip was funny as f**k,lololol, like the way back machine! That said. yes we all need to put more thought into how act.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 16, 2023, 07:20:00 PM
I didn't know where to put this but I was told that a Dub Dub spent 25 hours in Sosua before having to fly back for an emergency. Homie admitted to getting 2 hours of sleep and having 6 chicas.

If that doesn't put someone in the Dub Dub all of fame I don't know what will.

Bat Man,

I think the last time I might have heard the term “dub dub” was when I was walking by a parent in a park, and she was offering her child the pacifier. Please stop with the baby language gibberish. 🤦🏾‍♂️🙏🏾

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 16, 2023, 08:43:18 PM
I didn't know where to put this but I was told that a Dub Dub spent 25 hours in Sosua before having to fly back for an emergency. Homie admitted to getting 2 hours of sleep and having 6 chicas.

If that doesn't put someone in the Dub Dub all of fame I don't know what will.

You want me to write out weekend warrior every single time?

Bat Man,

I think the last time I might have heard the term “dub dub” was when I was walking by a parent in a park, and she was offering her child the pacifier. Please stop with the baby language gibberish. 🤦🏾‍♂️🙏🏾
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 16, 2023, 10:28:07 PM
I didn't know where to put this but I was told that a Dub Dub spent 25 hours in Sosua before having to fly back for an emergency. Homie admitted to getting 2 hours of sleep and having 6 chicas.

If that doesn't put someone in the Dub Dub all of fame I don't know what will.

You want me to write out weekend warrior every single time?

Bat Man,

I think the last time I might have heard the term “dub dub” was when I was walking by a parent in a park, and she was offering her child the pacifier. Please stop with the baby language gibberish. 🤦🏾‍♂️🙏🏾

Bat Man,

Yes, write out weekend warrior or WW. 😆🙏🏾
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 16, 2023, 11:45:49 PM
Dub Dub  funny as hell, Yup the casinos a pefect place for that 150 usd not pesos. whale  like posted sausege fest. You got a whole bunch of newbies or guys not used to mongering .   high priced pussy spoon fed ...it is what is !  Side note   any one think the up comeing slow season going to make sosua a ghost town, lets say end of May till October .hmmmmm if so  price reset on these hoes !!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on February 17, 2023, 04:09:22 AM
It what way is Pattaya cheaper than Sosua?  We all know about Thai imfamous street food so Dollar for Dollar where is cheaper for accomodations, sit down restaurants and pussy?
pure freesylers and Tinder chicks.

I hear people on the forums talking about the insane plane prices so that was probaly a factor as well.
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Ok I'm just going to put how much things cost in dollars for hotels you can get hotels nicer than Sosua Inn and Casa Valeria for like 40 dollars with a pool and gym. Sit town restaurants since there are a lot more there is a big range but you can get something like say spaghetti bolognese for four dollars. The price of tinder chick or freelancers is 30 to 45 st and Lt is 45 to 60 so that's cheaper also.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 17, 2023, 07:35:12 AM
Dub Dub  funny as hell, Yup the casinos a pefect place for that 150 usd not pesos. whale  like posted sausege fest. You got a whole bunch of newbies or guys not used to mongering .   high priced pussy spoon fed ...it is what is !  Side note   any one think the up comeing slow season going to make sosua a ghost town, lets say end of May till October .hmmmmm if so  price reset on these hoes !!!!

I doubt if it will be a ghost town but Sue Tubers decamping for Pattaya (Flip Flop announced an upcoming trip) High Airline prices and every place being wide open now will make Sosua compete for the monger dollar.

If Sosua was in Thailand and not 90 minutes away from Miami then it probably would be a ghost town but Location Location Location, It's too easy for a Wal Mart cashier to take two days off and make the cost of the trip back with 4 days of Overtime.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 17, 2023, 07:38:21 AM
It what way is Pattaya cheaper than Sosua?  We all know about Thai imfamous street food so Dollar for Dollar where is cheaper for accomodations, sit down restaurants and pussy?
pure freesylers and Tinder chicks.

I hear people on the forums talking about the insane plane prices so that was probaly a factor as well.

Ok I'm just going to put how much things cost in dollars for hotels you can get hotels nicer than Sosua Inn and Casa Valeria for like 40 dollars with a pool and gym. Sit town restaurants since there are a lot more there is a big range but you can get something like say spaghetti bolognese for four dollars. The price of tinder chick or freelancers is 30 to 45 st and Lt is 45 to 60 so that's cheaper also.
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I get it and there's a floor for decent accomodations and cheap attractive 3rd world box.

That being said a savvy Vet could get similar prices in Sosua or at least the north coast but you'd have to haggle and I guess that Thailand is easier to navigate the true cost of things especially box.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 18, 2023, 05:30:05 PM
Don't know apartment rates in Thialand, but in Sosua the monthly rate is 50-60% less than nightly. You also get the added bonus of telling chicas you are there for the winter,even if you are not. They put the long play game on, and then you leave.lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on February 18, 2023, 06:19:15 PM
As always it depends on where in Thailand you go and what you choose for places to stay but for the most part it will be significantly cheaper in Thailand.

If you pick a place like say Pattaya you are going to be able to stay in better hotels for less than you will in Sosua mainly because there are so many more rooms available.   If you want to stay long term than you will generally be able to find places to stay even cheaper.

No comparison with food in that you will easily eat way better food for less money than you can in Sosua.   To be quite frank the food in Sosua is pretty average to below average.

Drink prices again depends on your beverage of choice but it will end up being similar if not a little less in Thailand

I find that pussy prices tend to be fairly similar no matter where you go if you know what you are doing.
My experience is that Thai girls are way less hassle then you will find the DR.
And I worry way less about a Thai girl stealing from me and not a single time has a Thai girl every tried to pull the upcharge/price change bull shit that is common  with DR chicas.

Airfare will be more and right now there doesn't seem to be very many places that one can fly to very cheaply but the airfares will reign themselves in at some point.

The DR is still nice for those that have a week or less to travel.    To go to Thailand you might as well plan on at least 10 days.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 18, 2023, 06:50:23 PM
JD, all things being equal as far as p*ssy prices, food is a non factor, as is accommodations. Where I stay and what I eat is up to me. What some pay a week I pay a month in food and accommodations in Sosua and live very well. My budget when there is about 2000 USD/ month.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 18, 2023, 11:01:07 PM
As always it depends on where in Thailand you go and what you choose for places to stay but for the most part it will be significantly cheaper in Thailand.

If you pick a place like say Pattaya you are going to be able to stay in better hotels for less than you will in Sosua mainly because there are so many more rooms available.   If you want to stay long term than you will generally be able to find places to stay even cheaper.

No comparison with food in that you will easily eat way better food for less money than you can in Sosua.   To be quite frank the food in Sosua is pretty average to below average.

Drink prices again depends on your beverage of choice but it will end up being similar if not a little less in Thailand

I find that pussy prices tend to be fairly similar no matter where you go if you know what you are doing.
My experience is that Thai girls are way less hassle then you will find the DR.
And I worry way less about a Thai girl stealing from me and not a single time has a Thai girl every tried to pull the upcharge/price change bull shit that is common  with DR chicas.

Airfare will be more and right now there doesn't seem to be very many places that one can fly to very cheaply but the airfares will reign themselves in at some point.

The DR is still nice for those that have a week or less to travel.    To go to Thailand you might as well plan on at least 10 days.

I've found that global short time prices are similar for a savvy traveler.

Where you save coin is on accomodations and food.

That being said although there's freelancers on Beach Road The reason you have less to worry about with a Thai whore is because Bar girls are controlled by the mamasans.  You got a problem with a bar girl go to the Mamasan.

Say what you want about the scamming hustler culture of Su chicas there's always a slight chance that she might be honest with you. A Sosua chick is an independent contractor and a Thai is a employee.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on February 19, 2023, 01:19:52 AM
As always it depends on where in Thailand you go and what you choose for places to stay but for the most part it will be significantly cheaper in Thailand.

If you pick a place like say Pattaya you are going to be able to stay in better hotels for less than you will in Sosua mainly because there are so many more rooms available.   If you want to stay long term than you will generally be able to find places to stay even cheaper.

No comparison with food in that you will easily eat way better food for less money than you can in Sosua.   To be quite frank the food in Sosua is pretty average to below average.

Drink prices again depends on your beverage of choice but it will end up being similar if not a little less in Thailand

I find that pussy prices tend to be fairly similar no matter where you go if you know what you are doing.
My experience is that Thai girls are way less hassle then you will find the DR.
And I worry way less about a Thai girl stealing from me and not a single time has a Thai girl every tried to pull the upcharge/price change bull shit that is common  with DR chicas.

Airfare will be more and right now there doesn't seem to be very many places that one can fly to very cheaply but the airfares will reign themselves in at some point.

The DR is still nice for those that have a week or less to travel.    To go to Thailand you might as well plan on at least 10 days.

I've found that global short time prices are similar for a savvy traveler.

Where you save coin is on accomodations and food.

That being said although there's freelancers on Beach Road The reason you have less to worry about with a Thai whore is because Bar girls are controlled by the mamasans.  You got a problem with a bar girl go to the Mamasan.

Say what you want about the scamming hustler culture of Su chicas there's always a slight chance that she might be honest with you. A Sosua chick is an independent contractor and a Thai is a employee.

Most of the Thai girls that I spend time with are freelancers from the discos, Thai friendly or wechat so you have no employer to go back on if things go south.
Even the employer of the beer bar girls or go go girls who are technically employed aren't going to do jack squat for you if there is a problem but at least you know where to go find them if they should steal from you but in my experience it just doesn't happen.
 
I stand by my words about DR chicas.  They will steal from you if given the opportunity no matter where they come from or how long you have known them.
They are way more drama

Haitians tend to be better about not causing problems for me
Even the girls from Jamaica are less likely to rip you off
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 19, 2023, 09:06:47 AM
As always it depends on where in Thailand you go and what you choose for places to stay but for the most part it will be significantly cheaper in Thailand.

If you pick a place like say Pattaya you are going to be able to stay in better hotels for less than you will in Sosua mainly because there are so many more rooms available.   If you want to stay long term than you will generally be able to find places to stay even cheaper.

No comparison with food in that you will easily eat way better food for less money than you can in Sosua.   To be quite frank the food in Sosua is pretty average to below average.

Drink prices again depends on your beverage of choice but it will end up being similar if not a little less in Thailand

I find that pussy prices tend to be fairly similar no matter where you go if you know what you are doing.
My experience is that Thai girls are way less hassle then you will find the DR.
And I worry way less about a Thai girl stealing from me and not a single time has a Thai girl every tried to pull the upcharge/price change bull shit that is common  with DR chicas.

Airfare will be more and right now there doesn't seem to be very many places that one can fly to very cheaply but the airfares will reign themselves in at some point.

The DR is still nice for those that have a week or less to travel.    To go to Thailand you might as well plan on at least 10 days.

I've found that global short time prices are similar for a savvy traveler.

Where you save coin is on accomodations and food.

That being said although there's freelancers on Beach Road The reason you have less to worry about with a Thai whore is because Bar girls are controlled by the mamasans.  You got a problem with a bar girl go to the Mamasan.

Say what you want about the scamming hustler culture of Su chicas there's always a slight chance that she might be honest with you. A Sosua chick is an independent contractor and a Thai is a employee.

Most of the Thai girls that I spend time with are freelancers from the discos, Thai friendly or wechat so you have no employer to go back on if things go south.
Even the employer of the beer bar girls or go go girls who are technically employed aren't going to do jack squat for you if there is a problem but at least you know where to go find them if they should steal from you but in my experience it just doesn't happen.
 
I stand by my words about DR chicas.  They will steal from you if given the opportunity no matter where they come from or how long you have known them.
They are way more drama

Haitians tend to be better about not causing problems for me
Even the girls from Jamaica are less likely to rip you off
How true they will steal from you if given the oppertunity, its survival, the have and have nots, unless your a rich donimican or well off Haitian, lets say your a low level worker maid house keeper ect, its dog eat dog meaning any chance they get there going to clip find and angle a scam a hustle any way to make cash  most are in survivel mode  id say 95 % of these chicas too there going to lie cheat  ect.  the only ones that may be honest are folks that are well off , a non pro chica not in the game that is well taken care of by a local or gringo,,this is an other reason some chicas go for the long game,lets say you found that cool dream chica, she checks all the boxes you start cacthing feelings she gives you the porn star sex, at first she does not ask for money, but as a good dude you hand her 2500 pesos and she says thanks,  you keep seeing her every trip, then shes starts asking that you be her Novio, shes starts asking for help WU  to pay her rent you give in then its request for cell phones motos furniture, clothes nails salon hair ect, then the last bell ringer is to make baby or take her with you back to the states, marrige green cards the whole nine yards,,  How many more Mr Speakah,that come to the USA get home sick and retun to the DR or pull a houdini and disapear to hook up with family an other donimicans or haitians .,Vamous, shes gone your holding your balls, wallet drained bank account decimated,and you thought it was true love and you found your princess,,,,Welcome to the DR ,Have fun be safe do not try to Save them you will be like on the titantic as the last life boat dissapears into the darkness !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 19, 2023, 09:24:38 AM
As always it depends on where in Thailand you go and what you choose for places to stay but for the most part it will be significantly cheaper in Thailand.

If you pick a place like say Pattaya you are going to be able to stay in better hotels for less than you will in Sosua mainly because there are so many more rooms available.   If you want to stay long term than you will generally be able to find places to stay even cheaper.

No comparison with food in that you will easily eat way better food for less money than you can in Sosua.   To be quite frank the food in Sosua is pretty average to below average.

Drink prices again depends on your beverage of choice but it will end up being similar if not a little less in Thailand

I find that pussy prices tend to be fairly similar no matter where you go if you know what you are doing.
My experience is that Thai girls are way less hassle then you will find the DR.
And I worry way less about a Thai girl stealing from me and not a single time has a Thai girl every tried to pull the upcharge/price change bull shit that is common  with DR chicas.

Airfare will be more and right now there doesn't seem to be very many places that one can fly to very cheaply but the airfares will reign themselves in at some point.

The DR is still nice for those that have a week or less to travel.    To go to Thailand you might as well plan on at least 10 days.

I've found that global short time prices are similar for a savvy traveler.

Where you save coin is on accomodations and food.

That being said although there's freelancers on Beach Road The reason you have less to worry about with a Thai whore is because Bar girls are controlled by the mamasans.  You got a problem with a bar girl go to the Mamasan.

Say what you want about the scamming hustler culture of Su chicas there's always a slight chance that she might be honest with you. A Sosua chick is an independent contractor and a Thai is a employee.

Most of the Thai girls that I spend time with are freelancers from the discos, Thai friendly or wechat so you have no employer to go back on if things go south.
Even the employer of the beer bar girls or go go girls who are technically employed aren't going to do jack squat for you if there is a problem but at least you know where to go find them if they should steal from you but in my experience it just doesn't happen.
 
I stand by my words about DR chicas.  They will steal from you if given the opportunity no matter where they come from or how long you have known them.
They are way more drama

Haitians tend to be better about not causing problems for me
Even the girls from Jamaica are less likely to rip you off

What do you like about the DR and Dominican chicas that bring you back.

I was told by a dude who's been mongering in SEA for 30 years that generally speaking Thais don't like Black people.

Obviously not all feel this way but outside of Club 808 I heard that Thai's have a strong perference .

What I will say I prefer the more freewheeling atmosphere of the DR especially when things go wrong and even the knowledge that they will try you at any given time is helpful. There's the stereotype of the submissive loving Asian woman who easily gets WU novios and 90 day fianceéd  because dudes let their guards down because they got a good massage.

All that being said almost every monger who's been there raves about Thailand so I have to check it out at least once.

I don't know how long you stayed but Stink just copped to a 2K monthly budget in Sosua what would say your budget is for Thailand or say how much you paid for hotels/ airbnb's in Thailand vs. the DR.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 19, 2023, 11:11:38 AM

I was told by a dude who's been mongering in SEA for 30 years that generally speaking Thais don't like Black people.

Obviously not all feel this way but outside of Club 808 I heard that Thai's have a strong perference .

All that being said almost every monger who's been there raves about Thailand so I have to check it out at least once.
I am one of those guys who heard for years from other guys about how great Thailand was as far as mongering.   I heard it online, on forums like this, and from guys in person.  Ive seen pics from guys of the chicks they got with.   I heard about all of the places where girls can be bar fined, or where one can get a soapy massage. 

I made my 1st visit to TL in 2015 to see for myself.  My 1st impression was that Pattaya was more of a white mans paradise.   And a paradise for those into deviant behavior.   So I was wondering, well where do the Black guys go?    In Sosua, guys can hook up with freelance chicks 24/7.   I didnt see that readily available in Pattaya.   Guys would have to know where to meet freelance chicks in the day time.   In Sosua, you dont need to know where FL are.   They are all over the place.  In Sosua, the fish jump in the boat. 

Black guys not totally familiar of where to go in Pattaya, generally go to the clubs on Walking Street, Bars on the Sois, or Freelancers on Beach Road.   That means, one would usually be going out very late at night to certain clubs where Thai women consort with black guys.  That is a key detail a lot of guys fail to divulge when it comes to describing how the scene is.   

I believe now with dating apps and social media, it may be much easier to monger in TL or even find regular chicks without having to go to clubs late at night or go on foot patrol looking for chicks on Beach Road.   

IMO, the Thai women that have above average looks are generally not in abundance.  Those that are above average are usually in high demand.  But may not be available.   Unlike the Latin women.  Many Latin women, especially in mongering locations are above average, and there are many that will be available. 

Where women in TL excel is giving mongers less problems.  In some cases may be more cooperative.  More into taking care of their men.  Less theft.    I didnt do much in Thailand , because Im just not feeling them. So I enjoy TL for other things.   I found my experience in the Philippines to be much better than my experience with TL women.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 19, 2023, 08:53:20 PM
As always it depends on where in Thailand you go and what you choose for places to stay but for the most part it will be significantly cheaper in Thailand.

If you pick a place like say Pattaya you are going to be able to stay in better hotels for less than you will in Sosua mainly because there are so many more rooms available.   If you want to stay long term than you will generally be able to find places to stay even cheaper.

No comparison with food in that you will easily eat way better food for less money than you can in Sosua.   To be quite frank the food in Sosua is pretty average to below average.

Drink prices again depends on your beverage of choice but it will end up being similar if not a little less in Thailand

I find that pussy prices tend to be fairly similar no matter where you go if you know what you are doing.
My experience is that Thai girls are way less hassle then you will find the DR.
And I worry way less about a Thai girl stealing from me and not a single time has a Thai girl every tried to pull the upcharge/price change bull shit that is common  with DR chicas.

Airfare will be more and right now there doesn't seem to be very many places that one can fly to very cheaply but the airfares will reign themselves in at some point.

The DR is still nice for those that have a week or less to travel.    To go to Thailand you might as well plan on at least 10 days.

I've found that global short time prices are similar for a savvy traveler.

Where you save coin is on accomodations and food.

That being said although there's freelancers on Beach Road The reason you have less to worry about with a Thai whore is because Bar girls are controlled by the mamasans.  You got a problem with a bar girl go to the Mamasan.

Say what you want about the scamming hustler culture of Su chicas there's always a slight chance that she might be honest with you. A Sosua chick is an independent contractor and a Thai is a employee.

Most of the Thai girls that I spend time with are freelancers from the discos, Thai friendly or wechat so you have no employer to go back on if things go south.
Even the employer of the beer bar girls or go go girls who are technically employed aren't going to do jack squat for you if there is a problem but at least you know where to go find them if they should steal from you but in my experience it just doesn't happen.
 
I stand by my words about DR chicas.  They will steal from you if given the opportunity no matter where they come from or how long you have known them.
They are way more drama

Haitians tend to be better about not causing problems for me
Even the girls from Jamaica are less likely to rip you off
How true they will steal from you if given the oppertunity, its survival, the have and have nots, unless your a rich donimican or well off Haitian, lets say your a low level worker maid house keeper ect, its dog eat dog meaning any chance they get there going to clip find and angle a scam a hustle any way to make cash  most are in survivel mode  id say 95 % of these chicas too there going to lie cheat  ect.  the only ones that may be honest are folks that are well off , a non pro chica not in the game that is well taken care of by a local or gringo,,this is an other reason some chicas go for the long game,lets say you found that cool dream chica, she checks all the boxes you start cacthing feelings she gives you the porn star sex, at first she does not ask for money, but as a good dude you hand her 2500 pesos and she says thanks,  you keep seeing her every trip, then shes starts asking that you be her Novio, shes starts asking for help WU  to pay her rent you give in then its request for cell phones motos furniture, clothes nails salon hair ect, then the last bell ringer is to make baby or take her with you back to the states, marrige green cards the whole nine yards,,  How many more Mr Speakah,that come to the USA get home sick and retun to the DR or pull a houdini and disapear to hook up with family an other donimicans or haitians .,Vamous, shes gone your holding your balls, wallet drained bank account decimated,and you thought it was true love and you found your princess,,,,Welcome to the DR ,Have fun be safe do not try to Save them you will be like on the titantic as the last life boat dissapears into the darkness !

Tug, You sound like Mitch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqX6z6djbD4
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 19, 2023, 09:35:14 PM

I was told by a dude who's been mongering in SEA for 30 years that generally speaking Thais don't like Black people.

Obviously not all feel this way but outside of Club 808 I heard that Thai's have a strong perference .

All that being said almost every monger who's been there raves about Thailand so I have to check it out at least once.
I am one of those guys who heard for years from other guys about how great Thailand was as far as mongering.   I heard it online, on forums like this, and from guys in person.  Ive seen pics from guys of the chicks they got with.   I heard about all of the places where girls can be bar fined, or where one can get a soapy massage. 

I made my 1st visit to TL in 2015 to see for myself.  My 1st impression was that Pattaya was more of a white mans paradise.   And a paradise for those into deviant behavior.   So I was wondering, well where do the Black guys go?    In Sosua, guys can hook up with freelance chicks 24/7.   I didnt see that readily available in Pattaya.   Guys would have to know where to meet freelance chicks in the day time.   In Sosua, you dont need to know where FL are.   They are all over the place.  In Sosua, the fish jump in the boat. 

Black guys not totally familiar of where to go in Pattaya, generally go to the clubs on Walking Street, Bars on the Sois, or Freelancers on Beach Road.   That means, one would usually be going out very late at night to certain clubs where Thai women consort with black guys.  That is a key detail a lot of guys fail to divulge when it comes to describing how the scene is.   

I believe now with dating apps and social media, it may be much easier to monger in TL or even find regular chicks without having to go to clubs late at night or go on foot patrol looking for chicks on Beach Road.   

IMO, the Thai women that have above average looks are generally not in abundance.  Those that are above average are usually in high demand.  But may not be available.   Unlike the Latin women.  Many Latin women, especially in mongering locations are above average, and there are many that will be available. 

Where women in TL excel is giving mongers less problems.  In some cases may be more cooperative.  More into taking care of their men.  Less theft.    I didnt do much in Thailand , because Im just not feeling them. So I enjoy TL for other things.   I found my experience in the Philippines to be much better than my experience with TL women.

This is exactly what I heard and I share you other sentiments too. I know a broke ass white boy who teaches english and has to barter english lessons for pussy who loves Thailand but is currently in Colombia with no plans to leave.

The 30 year Monger is a Black guy and spent the majority of his time there before the Dating apps became ubiquitious and with his knowledge of the place he didn't really need the apps.

One thing he said is the Zones is where you can pick up and generally a Black guy especially isn't gonna have a chance meeting at a Mall and set up an arrangement, again not saying it's not possible and the Black guy did have a 3 year off and on relationship with a Thai but generally especially in Bangkok you're not getting a Bank teller to Bang Cock. He said that generally when dudes start whipping out their cameras showing you "thick" Thais generally those girls are from the far south and like all cuties with booties they know that they do better with Black Men if they have some ass.

I heard the same thing about the Phillipines and dated a couple of Pinays back in High school. They are way more accepting of Black Men and don't allow a wierd preference to get in the way of a come up, same as Dominicanas.

Finally I also have a preference I also know that there's a smattering of African women out there but they're super ran through, I know another dude from Belgian who's white but prefers Black women who completely simped out on this Ugandan Streetwalker even following her back to Kampala when she was deported. I low key laughed when he told me his story in Kenya but  I was in Medellin recently and was eying the few Black women in SGB's despite their being a decent number of Paisa Barbies in the house.

I prefer Black and Black adjacent women, I like music with bass and I like to see women who can effectively twerk so being in Thailand might not appeal to me especially since I spend several months in a place. One other thing that's different about Thailand is because of white brokepats the Police randomly check visas and I always Fit the description so being stopped is too much like Stop and Frisk for my tastes.

I even like the fact that I have to keep on my toes with Latin women so I don't lull myself into simpery by having too much trust or not beleiving that it's more than what it is.

That being said I heard so many dudes rave about it including one dude in SD saying A tisket a Tasket you got to get her in the basket. That's all he said it took me hours of googling to get what he meant. Maybe just maybe the Soapy massages are so mind blowing that they're worth the trip, but I heard that the BJ bars are staffed by older Bar girls and other than the occasional virtuoso the hummers are Ho Hum.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Blacknight69 on February 19, 2023, 10:06:54 PM
Ya'll want to go ahead and start a thread about Thailand & the Philippines?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: El_lobo00 on February 20, 2023, 01:59:02 AM
A chica from WhatsApp posted a video of a fool standing on top of the bar and “making it rain” in Playa Chiquita yesterday. This was her emoji reaction: 🤦‍♀️

Chica also said that these guys do this, but only want to give them $80 USD. 🫠

Interesting logic from a chica in real time. If you want to act like a baller, then you should pay baller prices, yes? Lol. Can we really knock the chicas for thinking this way?

When it comes to the price wars, it looks like some mongers may be their own worst enemy. Smh.

Agreed. When you put it that way, it makes sense that chicas would think that. However, the problem is then sssuming that just because a couple of idiots engage in that make it rain buffoonery that all gringos move the same way…

Recently took a business trip to the dirty south, and Decided to visit a strip club to view the talent. These young boys were makin it rain on chicks on stage who were literally just sitting down on stage. No VIP,  no private lap dances, nothing. I kid you not. Now imagine the same type of dudes in the Dominican Republic 🤷🏿‍♂️

Often men experience bad attitudes and entitlement from women due to behavior described above. Stop rewarding women for doing absolutely nothing!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 20, 2023, 08:11:31 AM
Placing these chicas on a pedestal, when 99 % of them are prostitutes one way or an other !not all of us are whore masters, sure are hobby can be fun, but there always land mines and booby traps !enjoy  !!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 20, 2023, 09:35:14 AM
Saturday & Sunday February 18 & 19

Sosua looks like it's still thriving.   Plenty of the same people in town that I previously mentioned, prior to Super Bowl.   Regular stuff.  Beach is still a good place to go in the day time.  The only problem is we seem to be in somewhat of a cool spell.  With showers or rain happening from time to time. 

Afternoon and evenings, folks can hang out anywhere they want.  Plenty of options for people to socialize while they dine/drink.  Spring like weather in the day, with cool temps at night.  Barely need air-
conditioning.

Checked out the exchange rate at Caribe Express by Super Pola yesterday.  RD 55.25 to 1 USD ( it slipped a little, previously RD 56 to 1 three weeks ago ) .   Ive read that the price of eggs was supposedly going up in the states.   I bought a dozen and a half of eggs for RD 139 pesos.   And 4 medium bananas for RD 18.62.   Both decent prices.   Im glad that egg prices seem to be normal here.   

BTW the eggs were set up near the courtesy counter.   A very large display of eggs were available.   These days the Haitian fruit/veggie vendors are trying to charge 10 pesos for just one banana.  I admire their hustle , since they are on foot.   I sometimes over pay them.   But I did note, that the bananas seem to be cheaper if you buy them directly from the supermercado.  Same thing with Avocados. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on February 20, 2023, 02:24:03 PM
If the death of this forum was discussed earlier, perhaps the concern about getting $5600RD vs $5525RD for your hundred dollar bill could well be a turning point.

I think that negative spread of $75 pesos can be hedged by purchasing bananas from the supermarket instead of the street for a positive spread of $5RD each.

In other words....

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: sosuajefe on February 20, 2023, 03:14:14 PM
This thread has gone completely off topic. Its about whats going on, on Pedro Clisante. Keep it to that. Nobody trying to read novels about other topics
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 20, 2023, 05:15:39 PM
It's to the point, that as far as whats currently going on in Sosua,  there really isnt anything significant to report.   Sosua is just Sosua.  Tell me.  All of you guys complaining about the thread direction, what do you have new to contribute to this thread?  Im sure you all have friends that have been to Sosua.  What did they report to you?  Nothing huh?   So you have nothing to offer either?

And please dont act like, this is the 1st time you saw a thread deviate or go off on a tangent.   Trust, if there was something substantial or significant to report, there aint nothing stopping any of you from reporting or asking for feedback on something you deem important, so someone can possibly do some research on it.   





Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on February 20, 2023, 08:28:21 PM
Saturday & Sunday February 18 & 19

Sosua looks like it's still thriving.   Plenty of the same people in town that I previously mentioned, prior to Super Bowl.   Regular stuff.  Beach is still a good place to go in the day time.  The only problem is we seem to be in somewhat of a cool spell.  With showers or rain happening from time to time. 

Afternoon and evenings, folks can hang out anywhere they want.  Plenty of options for people to socialize while they dine/drink.  Spring like weather in the day, with cool temps at night.  Barely need air-
conditioning.

Checked out the exchange rate at Caribe Express by Super Pola yesterday.  RD 55.25 to 1 USD ( it slipped a little, previously RD 56 to 1 three weeks ago ) .   Ive read that the price of eggs was supposedly going up in the states.   I bought a dozen and a half of eggs for RD 139 pesos.   And 4 medium bananas for RD 18.62.   Both decent prices.   Im glad that egg prices seem to be normal here.   

BTW the eggs were set up near the courtesy counter.   A very large display of eggs were available.   These days the Haitian fruit/veggie vendors are trying to charge 10 pesos for just one banana.  I admire their hustle , since they are on foot.   I sometimes over pay them.   But I did note, that the bananas seem to be cheaper if you buy them directly from the supermercado.  Same thing with Avocados.

Did the math, you paid about DOP equivalent of 8 cents US per banana, and you mentioned the Haitians selling them on the strip are charging about 18 cents US.  Freakin' Walmart near me in central Florida is charging 24 cents US per banana - a full 300% higher than what you paid at the store down there by you. Walmart charges just 33% higher than the Haitians, so yeah, the Haitians may look all "pobrecitas" but they are shrewd businesswomen indeed!


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 20, 2023, 09:33:49 PM
Saturday & Sunday February 18 & 19

Sosua looks like it's still thriving.   Plenty of the same people in town that I previously mentioned, prior to Super Bowl.   Regular stuff.  Beach is still a good place to go in the day time.  The only problem is we seem to be in somewhat of a cool spell.  With showers or rain happening from time to time. 

Afternoon and evenings, folks can hang out anywhere they want.  Plenty of options for people to socialize while they dine/drink.  Spring like weather in the day, with cool temps at night.  Barely need air-
conditioning.

Checked out the exchange rate at Caribe Express by Super Pola yesterday.  RD 55.25 to 1 USD ( it slipped a little, previously RD 56 to 1 three weeks ago ) .   Ive read that the price of eggs was supposedly going up in the states.   I bought a dozen and a half of eggs for RD 139 pesos.   And 4 medium bananas for RD 18.62.   Both decent prices.   Im glad that egg prices seem to be normal here.   

BTW the eggs were set up near the courtesy counter.   A very large display of eggs were available.   These days the Haitian fruit/veggie vendors are trying to charge 10 pesos for just one banana.  I admire their hustle , since they are on foot.   I sometimes over pay them.   But I did note, that the bananas seem to be cheaper if you buy them directly from the supermercado.  Same thing with Avocados.

Just bought a donzen eggs here In Cali cost 1.50 USD a liter of milk was 85 cents

I really like to get into the weeds of economics the dollar is trading at 1 to 4912.15 COP
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 20, 2023, 09:43:52 PM
If the death of this forum was discussed earlier, perhaps the concern about getting $5600RD vs $5525RD for your hundred dollar bill could well be a turning point.

I think that negative spread of $75 pesos can be hedged by purchasing bananas from the supermarket instead of the street for a positive spread of $5RD each.

In other words....

Completely understandable just like there's creep cam channels that everyone claims to hate with 40K subs The price of eggs in china is really really inside baseball shit.

But since you have to pay to watch pictures that people upload here for free a daily Where Da Hoes at???

gets a little repetitive besides no one can give you up to the minute hoe reports better than the creep cammers.

This is information that expats and potential expats would consider and deem valuable

And the WU Novios and dumb Dub Dubs giving whores 150 USD for groceries at Super Pola.

To anyone who wants to know 150K COP will feed a family of 5 for 10 to 12 days at Tienda D1 (the overall cheapest chain store to shop in Colombia other than farmers markets)

156K will cover a week to 10 days of imported food at Jumbo (the most expensive place to Shop in Colombia)

150K is $30.60 USD right now.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 20, 2023, 09:51:58 PM
Saturday & Sunday February 18 & 19

Sosua looks like it's still thriving.   Plenty of the same people in town that I previously mentioned, prior to Super Bowl.   Regular stuff.  Beach is still a good place to go in the day time.  The only problem is we seem to be in somewhat of a cool spell.  With showers or rain happening from time to time. 

Afternoon and evenings, folks can hang out anywhere they want.  Plenty of options for people to socialize while they dine/drink.  Spring like weather in the day, with cool temps at night.  Barely need air-
conditioning.

Checked out the exchange rate at Caribe Express by Super Pola yesterday.  RD 55.25 to 1 USD ( it slipped a little, previously RD 56 to 1 three weeks ago ) .   Ive read that the price of eggs was supposedly going up in the states.   I bought a dozen and a half of eggs for RD 139 pesos.   And 4 medium bananas for RD 18.62.   Both decent prices.   Im glad that egg prices seem to be normal here.   

BTW the eggs were set up near the courtesy counter.   A very large display of eggs were available.   These days the Haitian fruit/veggie vendors are trying to charge 10 pesos for just one banana.  I admire their hustle , since they are on foot.   I sometimes over pay them.   But I did note, that the bananas seem to be cheaper if you buy them directly from the supermercado.  Same thing with Avocados.

Did the math, you paid about DOP equivalent of 8 cents US per banana, and you mentioned the Haitians selling them on the strip are charging about 18 cents US.  Freakin' Walmart near me in central Florida is charging 24 cents US per banana - a full 300% higher than what you paid at the store down there by you. Walmart charges just 33% higher than the Haitians, so yeah, the Haitians may look all "pobrecitas" but they are shrewd businesswomen indeed!

It's little things like this that pushed me to retire overseas, Even at Walmart I was averaging 70 bucks a week 5 years ago for the basics. Let me go to a high end grocery and cop Grass fed or Organic Ostrich burgers and I'm paying way more.

I also did the math I can save more by not working living overseas than I would save if i worked in the states and that was before the post COVID inflation.

Dub Dubs and new expats constantly complain about getting gringo priced well that's what knowing how much eggs cost will do for you, If you're buying from a Farmers market I would assume that there's a 20% discount off the top of anything you'd buy at any chain store.

Buying from a street hawker could be the same price as market or more than a grocery chain depending on the seller and the buyer.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 20, 2023, 10:03:42 PM
For the slow traveler, snowbird or retiree:

Generally the prices in the DR is roughly in line with prices in Colombia ( hear different things about Thailand but since no one posts how much they pay for eggs we can only speculate)

The Problem is the north coast and especially Sosua, Puerta Plata and Caberete is more expensive that even the Capital. The only reason for this is because Dominicans especially in those towns seem to agree to charge gringos sky high prices for everything. I was blown away when I found that Taylor was paying 1200 USD for his place. Maybe if he was living at the Sea Horse in Caberete maybe that would make sense but no Bungalow in PP should cost anywhere near that much. His young padawan left PP and his 800 a month rental to pay 375 a month for a deluxe apartment in Santiago.

When he decamped for Brazil he was told by his landlord that His price will not be the next tenant's prices as the Airbnb host craze extended to Santiago. I saw a halfway decent spot in Gazcue for 475 but a better spot in Piantini for 550 a month both unfurnished of course. The main knock against the DR is the difficulty of getting the real price for anything, everything is jacked up for the foriegner knowing the true cost of things lets you know what the true cost of living is and how much is fair to pay for random services and Chicas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on February 21, 2023, 02:57:01 AM
Saturday & Sunday February 18 & 19

Sosua looks like it's still thriving.   Plenty of the same people in town that I previously mentioned, prior to Super Bowl.   Regular stuff.  Beach is still a good place to go in the day time.  The only problem is we seem to be in somewhat of a cool spell.  With showers or rain happening from time to time. 

Afternoon and evenings, folks can hang out anywhere they want.  Plenty of options for people to socialize while they dine/drink.  Spring like weather in the day, with cool temps at night.  Barely need air-
conditioning.

Checked out the exchange rate at Caribe Express by Super Pola yesterday.  RD 55.25 to 1 USD ( it slipped a little, previously RD 56 to 1 three weeks ago ) .   Ive read that the price of eggs was supposedly going up in the states.   I bought a dozen and a half of eggs for RD 139 pesos.   And 4 medium bananas for RD 18.62.   Both decent prices.   Im glad that egg prices seem to be normal here.   

BTW the eggs were set up near the courtesy counter.   A very large display of eggs were available.   These days the Haitian fruit/veggie vendors are trying to charge 10 pesos for just one banana.  I admire their hustle , since they are on foot.   I sometimes over pay them.   But I did note, that the bananas seem to be cheaper if you buy them directly from the supermercado.  Same thing with Avocados.

Did the math, you paid about DOP equivalent of 8 cents US per banana, and you mentioned the Haitians selling them on the strip are charging about 18 cents US.  Freakin' Walmart near me in central Florida is charging 24 cents US per banana - a full 300% higher than what you paid at the store down there by you. Walmart charges just 33% higher than the Haitians, so yeah, the Haitians may look all "pobrecitas" but they are shrewd businesswomen indeed!

It's little things like this that pushed me to retire overseas, Even at Walmart I was averaging 70 bucks a week 5 years ago for the basics. Let me go to a high end grocery and cop Grass fed or Organic Ostrich burgers and I'm paying way more.

I also did the math I can save more by not working living overseas than I would save if i worked in the states and that was before the post COVID inflation.

Dub Dubs and new expats constantly complain about getting gringo priced well that's what knowing how much eggs cost will do for you, If you're buying from a Farmers market I would assume that there's a 20% discount off the top of anything you'd buy at any chain store.

Buying from a street hawker could be the same price as market or more than a grocery chain depending on the seller and the buyer.

Ugh....I'm skipping all of your damn messages. I'm tired of reading "Dub Dubs" like you trying to make that the new saying. Put it on a t-shirt.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 09:15:49 AM

The Problem is the north coast and especially Sosua, Puerta Plata and Caberete is more expensive that even the Capital. The only reason for this is because Dominicans especially in those towns seem to agree to charge gringos sky high prices for everything. I was blown away when I found that Taylor was paying 1200 USD for his place. Maybe if he was living at the Sea Horse in Caberete maybe that would make sense but no Bungalow in PP should cost anywhere near that much. His young padawan left PP and his 800 a month rental to pay 375 a month for a deluxe apartment in Santiago.

The main knock against the DR is the difficulty of getting the real price for anything, everything is jacked up for the foriegner knowing the true cost of things lets you know what the true cost of living is and how much is fair to pay for random services and Chicas.
I agree that it's cheaper to live in the Capitol overall.   And it was generally cheaper to rent or buy property in Puerto Plata than in Sosua or Cabarete.   Times have changed.  Realtors on the north coast have taken full advantage of the housing market where foreigners choose to live.  Personally, I have never felt like I could live on the South coast. 

It may be cheaper, but I prefer the look and feel of the north coast.  Most importantly, most severe weather that comes to the DR hits east and the southern coastal areas.  Whereas the north coast has historically been relatively mild weather wise.

When I 1st acquired my one BR apt in Sosua in 2013, $350 seemed like a lot by DR standards ( definitely not by US standards ).  Back then apts in PP were much cheaper.  Plus you could get a 2 BR apt for that same $350.  But I never liked PP for living there.  I hate driving there.   But now, in 2023?  $350 a month for a one BR apt in Sosua is a steal.   Especially with off street parking, and a backup generator on the premises. 

The key for finding places for living abroad anywhere,  is TIMING and LOCATION.  If you are a Johnny come lately thinking about retiring somewhere, it would behoove you to get it way before the market is out of control or there is no availability.   All the residences that have recently been built in Sosua are starting in the ball park $600/800 and up for rent.    In some cases they have no back up generator.   

I have also heard complaints from a few individuals that although the rent was doable, when they got their electric bills,  the bills were as if they were paying for two units, instead of one.   Getting bogus electric bills can be a problem in the DR.   Where I am, we havent had that problem, SO FAR. 

Now when it comes to food shopping over all, the higher cost of buying groceries here on the north coast depends on what you buy.  Imports is where most of the damage is.   But the thing is, most people will deal with the higher cost of imports because they feel fortunate that the imports are available.  I'd rather have the imports available just in case, than not having them available.    Still with the improved exchange rates over the years, the increases of food prices has not done that much damage to most foreigners. 

Now when it comes to eating and drinking out in Sosua, THAT is where I feel the surge in costs in terms of DR living.  Obviously if I were to make a comparison to costs of dining out in the US, hands down Sosua would still be much cheaper to dine out than in most big cities I would visit.  It's just that every time prices rise, people usually have a knee jerk reaction to it.   

Just like when the publico taxis on the north coast came out with new prices for transpo between Sosua to PP.  The locals had a fit.  Their complaints got the fares lowered.

When I was in the Philippines, I noticed the prices for dining had increased.  But the increases was insignificant.  The average menu the prices only went up by 10 to 50 pesos.   Things like seafood or meat were the main menu items that had more noticeable increases.  But overall, dining out was and is still cheaper than Sosua.   And in the PH they dont charge 28% taxes either.   

Higher prices brings a common knee jerk reaction of disappointment.  But then one has to look at the bigger picture.  Locals usually feel the impact more, even if foreigners are the intended targets.  The exchange rate for foreigners using USD ( in the PH ) went from 48 to 1 three years ago to 58 to 1 the middle of last year ( it's dropped since then ).   That increase meant major buying power for foreigners.

My point is, the increase in dining or buying groceries abroad has not had a major impact other than to temporarily piss some foreigners off.   Many people dont like change when it costs more or interferes with what one is accustomed to.   

Even the cost of pussy around the world hasnt gone up that much for foreigners if you factor in the exchange rate from 2010 until the present.  The main thing that went up is chicks demands, and mongers gullibility and thirst.   Which is subjective and manageable.  User controlled, in other words. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 09:38:56 AM
I was blown away when I found that Taylor was paying 1200 USD for his place.
If you are referring to the house he was renting off of the malecon in PP,  I believe his breakdown was $800 for rent.  He once mentioned in a video that he was paying about RD $11,000 a month for electric on certain months of heavy consumption.   

Around the time he started renting, realtors were already milking foreigners that were eager to live in the DR.  That place a year or two before he moved in could have easily went for $500/600 a month.  Just like many places up in the Torre Alto area.    Before 2015,  that was a good time to rent or buy anywhere in the DR
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 04:35:19 PM

The Problem is the north coast and especially Sosua, Puerta Plata and Caberete is more expensive that even the Capital. The only reason for this is because Dominicans especially in those towns seem to agree to charge gringos sky high prices for everything. I was blown away when I found that Taylor was paying 1200 USD for his place. Maybe if he was living at the Sea Horse in Caberete maybe that would make sense but no Bungalow in PP should cost anywhere near that much. His young padawan left PP and his 800 a month rental to pay 375 a month for a deluxe apartment in Santiago.

The main knock against the DR is the difficulty of getting the real price for anything, everything is jacked up for the foriegner knowing the true cost of things lets you know what the true cost of living is and how much is fair to pay for random services and Chicas.
I agree that it's cheaper to live in the Capitol overall.   And it was generally cheaper to rent or buy property in Puerto Plata than in Sosua or Cabarete.   Times have changed.  Realtors on the north coast have taken full advantage of the housing market where foreigners choose to live.  Personally, I have never felt like I could live on the South coast. 

It may be cheaper, but I prefer the look and feel of the north coast.  Most importantly, most severe weather that comes to the DR hits east and the southern coastal areas.  Whereas the north coast has historically been relatively mild weather wise.

When I 1st acquired my one BR apt in Sosua in 2013, $350 seemed like a lot by DR standards ( definitely not by US standards ).  Back then apts in PP were much cheaper.  Plus you could get a 2 BR apt for that same $350.  But I never liked PP for living there.  I hate driving there.   But now, in 2023?  $350 a month for a one BR apt in Sosua is a steal.   Especially with off street parking, and a backup generator on the premises. 

The key for finding places for living abroad anywhere,  is TIMING and LOCATION.  If you are a Johnny come lately thinking about retiring somewhere, it would behoove you to get it way before the market is out of control or there is no availability.   All the residences that have recently been built in Sosua are starting in the ball park $600/800 and up for rent.    In some cases they have no back up generator.   

I have also heard complaints from a few individuals that although the rent was doable, when they got their electric bills,  the bills were as if they were paying for two units, instead of one.   Getting bogus electric bills can be a problem in the DR.   Where I am, we havent had that problem, SO FAR. 

Now when it comes to food shopping over all, the higher cost of buying groceries here on the north coast depends on what you buy.  Imports is where most of the damage is.   But the thing is, most people will deal with the higher cost of imports because they feel fortunate that the imports are available.  I'd rather have the imports available just in case, than not having them available.    Still with the improved exchange rates over the years, the increases of food prices has not done that much damage to most foreigners. 

Now when it comes to eating and drinking out in Sosua, THAT is where I feel the surge in costs in terms of DR living.  Obviously if I were to make a comparison to costs of dining out in the US, hands down Sosua would still be much cheaper to dine out than in most big cities I would visit.  It's just that every time prices rise, people usually have a knee jerk reaction to it.   

Just like when the publico taxis on the north coast came out with new prices for transpo between Sosua to PP.  The locals had a fit.  Their complaints got the fares lowered.

When I was in the Philippines, I noticed the prices for dining had increased.  But the increases was insignificant.  The average menu the prices only went up by 10 to 50 pesos.   Things like seafood or meat were the main menu items that had more noticeable increases.  But overall, dining out was and is still cheaper than Sosua.   And in the PH they dont charge 28% taxes either.   

Higher prices brings a common knee jerk reaction of disappointment.  But then one has to look at the bigger picture.  Locals usually feel the impact more, even if foreigners are the intended targets.  The exchange rate for foreigners using USD ( in the PH ) went from 48 to 1 three years ago to 58 to 1 the middle of last year ( it's dropped since then ).   That increase meant major buying power for foreigners.

My point is, the increase in dining or buying groceries abroad has not had a major impact other than to temporarily piss some foreigners off.   Many people dont like change when it costs more or interferes with what one is accustomed to.   

Even the cost of pussy around the world hasnt gone up that much for foreigners if you factor in the exchange rate from 2010 until the present.  The main thing that went up is chicks demands, and mongers gullibility and thirst.   Which is subjective and manageable.  User controlled, in other words.

I want to do a deep dive into this so I'll break up my responses.

So technically TMD and Chapapa TV were paying at the top of the market rates but generally market rates for Puerto Plata

PP is bigger than the Su yet it's cheaper interesting.  I notice some of the Su 'Pat youtubers are moving into Puerta Plata and away from the Malecon, I thought it was for safety and not wanting to be surrounded by chicas 24/7 and the additional noise but it's probably because it's much cheaper
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 04:38:13 PM
I was blown away when I found that Taylor was paying 1200 USD for his place.
If you are referring to the house he was renting off of the malecon in PP,  I believe his breakdown was $800 for rent.  He once mentioned in a video that he was paying about RD $11,000 a month for electric on certain months of heavy consumption.   

Around the time he started renting, realtors were already milking foreigners that were eager to live in the DR.  That place a year or two before he moved in could have easily went for $500/600 a month.  Just like many places up in the Torre Alto area.    Before 2015,  that was a good time to rent or buy anywhere in the DR

Again homie was an alledged "Millionaire" He was all in on Sosua (till he wasn't)  why didn't he buy a place? Couldn't super effiecient modern appliances helped keep the price down?  Or did he get scammed by the Power company and didn't know any better because he didn't ask?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 04:46:04 PM

The Problem is the north coast and especially Sosua, Puerta Plata and Caberete is more expensive that even the Capital. The only reason for this is because Dominicans especially in those towns seem to agree to charge gringos sky high prices for everything. I was blown away when I found that Taylor was paying 1200 USD for his place. Maybe if he was living at the Sea Horse in Caberete maybe that would make sense but no Bungalow in PP should cost anywhere near that much. His young padawan left PP and his 800 a month rental to pay 375 a month for a deluxe apartment in Santiago.

The main knock against the DR is the difficulty of getting the real price for anything, everything is jacked up for the foriegner knowing the true cost of things lets you know what the true cost of living is and how much is fair to pay for random services and Chicas.
I agree that it's cheaper to live in the Capitol overall.   And it was generally cheaper to rent or buy property in Puerto Plata than in Sosua or Cabarete.   Times have changed.  Realtors on the north coast have taken full advantage of the housing market where foreigners choose to live.  Personally, I have never felt like I could live on the South coast. 

It may be cheaper, but I prefer the look and feel of the north coast.  Most importantly, most severe weather that comes to the DR hits east and the southern coastal areas.  Whereas the north coast has historically been relatively mild weather wise.

When I 1st acquired my one BR apt in Sosua in 2013, $350 seemed like a lot by DR standards ( definitely not by US standards ).  Back then apts in PP were much cheaper.  Plus you could get a 2 BR apt for that same $350.  But I never liked PP for living there.  I hate driving there.   But now, in 2023?  $350 a month for a one BR apt in Sosua is a steal.   Especially with off street parking, and a backup generator on the premises. 

The key for finding places for living abroad anywhere,  is TIMING and LOCATION.  If you are a Johnny come lately thinking about retiring somewhere, it would behoove you to get it way before the market is out of control or there is no availability.   All the residences that have recently been built in Sosua are starting in the ball park $600/800 and up for rent.    In some cases they have no back up generator.   

I have also heard complaints from a few individuals that although the rent was doable, when they got their electric bills,  the bills were as if they were paying for two units, instead of one.   Getting bogus electric bills can be a problem in the DR.   Where I am, we havent had that problem, SO FAR. 

Now when it comes to food shopping over all, the higher cost of buying groceries here on the north coast depends on what you buy.  Imports is where most of the damage is.   But the thing is, most people will deal with the higher cost of imports because they feel fortunate that the imports are available.  I'd rather have the imports available just in case, than not having them available.    Still with the improved exchange rates over the years, the increases of food prices has not done that much damage to most foreigners. 

Now when it comes to eating and drinking out in Sosua, THAT is where I feel the surge in costs in terms of DR living.  Obviously if I were to make a comparison to costs of dining out in the US, hands down Sosua would still be much cheaper to dine out than in most big cities I would visit.  It's just that every time prices rise, people usually have a knee jerk reaction to it.   

Just like when the publico taxis on the north coast came out with new prices for transpo between Sosua to PP.  The locals had a fit.  Their complaints got the fares lowered.

When I was in the Philippines, I noticed the prices for dining had increased.  But the increases was insignificant.  The average menu the prices only went up by 10 to 50 pesos.   Things like seafood or meat were the main menu items that had more noticeable increases.  But overall, dining out was and is still cheaper than Sosua.   And in the PH they dont charge 28% taxes either.   

Higher prices brings a common knee jerk reaction of disappointment.  But then one has to look at the bigger picture.  Locals usually feel the impact more, even if foreigners are the intended targets.  The exchange rate for foreigners using USD ( in the PH ) went from 48 to 1 three years ago to 58 to 1 the middle of last year ( it's dropped since then ).   That increase meant major buying power for foreigners.

My point is, the increase in dining or buying groceries abroad has not had a major impact other than to temporarily piss some foreigners off.   Many people dont like change when it costs more or interferes with what one is accustomed to.   

Even the cost of pussy around the world hasnt gone up that much for foreigners if you factor in the exchange rate from 2010 until the present.  The main thing that went up is chicks demands, and mongers gullibility and thirst.   Which is subjective and manageable.  User controlled, in other words.

You mentioned the Phillipines so you have checked out all of the main monger hubs we know how you feel about Colombia and Thailand what about the Phillipines made it a No for you?

I know a guy who left his Condo in Angeles City for Cali and not looking back. He ws renting his One bedroom out to Koreans for 700 a month.

Even if pussy was 30 bucks for Overnights if 700 is standard for a one bedroom that means the Phillipines is actually pretty expensive.

Like Colombia I hear that Phillipino food is nothing to write home about. i did hear that despite the frequency of guys getting the Clap that the Phillipines was a barebackers paradise as well as a Backpackers paradise.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 06:38:56 PM
I want to do a deep dive into this so I'll break up my responses.

So technically TMD and Chapapa TV were paying at the top of the market rates but generally market rates for Puerto Plata

PP is bigger than the Su yet it's cheaper interesting.  I notice some of the Su 'Pat youtubers are moving into Puerta Plata and away from the Malecon, I thought it was for safety and not wanting to be surrounded by chicas 24/7 and the additional noise but it's probably because it's much cheaper
Most of PP is residential.  And foreigners make up only a fraction of the residents that live there.  Go back to lets say 2010, there werent as many foreigners living in PP then.   And those that were living in PP, the rents and the amount of space you got for your money was a win/win.   

Foreigners were usually known to stay in resorts.  Sosua on the other hand,  is much smaller.  But more touristic.   Look at the people that come from far and wide just to be in Sosua to hustle.  Most locals in PP have regular jobs.   Where they are used to being around mostly other locals. 

Santiago is similar.  Santiago is not touristic.  It caters mostly to locals.  Rents and the amount of space one can get used to be very affordable.  But now more foreigners and well to do locals are paying more, in certain areas of Santiago.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 07:03:36 PM
Again homie was an alledged "Millionaire" He was all in on Sosua (till he wasn't)  why didn't he buy a place? Couldn't super effiecient modern appliances helped keep the price down?  Or did he get scammed by the Power company and didn't know any better because he didn't ask?
Well he did buy a place.  The one in Sosua.  But a year and a half later he took on the place in PP.   This is just my guess.  But around the time he got the place in PP,  he was getting a lot of heat from the Dominicans that did not appreciate some of his content putting Dominicans on blast. 

Around that time he removed alot of his content, and took a break from vlogging.  Started being a philanthropist/humanitarian.   As for the house,  there could be a number of reasons why he didnt buy the house.  For one, he still had the condo in Sosua.   2ndly,  he got his travel legs, and started going abroad.

And BTW, as an expat, when he bought the condo,  I thought that was a knee jerk move.  Mainly because, he never lived in the DR full time before.  It would have been wiser to rent the place in Sosua for a while.  Find out how living in the DR, particularly Sosua is,  and then make an educated decision on where you might want to live.   As an expat/vet, that has been exactly what I would recommend to just about any dude that I met in Sosua looking for some feedback.

So basically he did something that I thought was an unwise move.  And look what happened?  He ended up leaving the condo to rent someplace else.  As for the new place.  Many houses and apartments 5 or more years ago did not have the energy efficient appliances that we have today.

Im willing to bet that whatever appliances that were there, was already there when he moved in.  Just like a lot of the old monger hotels.  Old air cons that use a lot of electricity, and old box TVs or cheap small flat screen TVs.   Maybe he did some upgrades along the way, but who knows?  He would. 

At the house in PP,  he had air cons all over the house, and a pool.  Just to keep the pool clean, a refrigerator , a freezer and running a/c day and night might have ran up the electric bill.   

Judging by the way he left the condo to live in PP, Im willing to bet he wasnt sure how vested he would be living in that house in PP, before moving on again.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 07:20:19 PM


You mentioned the Phillipines so you have checked out all of the main monger hubs we know how you feel about Colombia and Thailand what about the Phillipines made it a No for you?

I know a guy who left his Condo in Angeles City for Cali and not looking back. He ws renting his One bedroom out to Koreans for 700 a month.

Even if pussy was 30 bucks for Overnights if 700 is standard for a one bedroom that means the Phillipines is actually pretty expensive.

Like Colombia I hear that Phillipino food is nothing to write home about. i did hear that despite the frequency of guys getting the Clap that the Phillipines was a barebackers paradise as well as a Backpackers paradise.
I never said the Philippines was a NO.  Colombia for me is a NO.  Nothing wrong with Colombia.   I spent 29 days there.  But food choices was a problem.   I like the Philippines.   Im comfortable being there.  Living there.   Filipino food is not the only food to eat in the Philippines. 

In fact one can get just about any type of food they want.   I have a very good Thai restaurant I go to all of the time.   As well as an Indian restaurant, I like.  Several places that serve multiple cuisines.  A steakhouse restaurant I like.  There's a wholesale club I go to to get stuff I like.     

The most important thing is, it's usually better to experience a place for oneself, rather than relying on word of mouth or assumptions alone.   YMMD.   Thailand is not for everybody.  Sosua is not for everybody.  The Philippines is not for everybody.   Places in Africa is not for everybody.  Colombia is not for everybody.  Brazil is not for everybody.   Everyone is free to find what works for them.   Me?   With my passport,  I can explore and/or live where I want as long as it's open to me and safe.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 07:24:36 PM
Tuesday February 21, 2023

An absolutely beautiful sunny, warm day on the beach.   Was saddened to hear, that a dude I know died 2 days ago in his Casa Linda place.  Less than 2 weeks ago he was sitting with me and my buddy on the beach. 
I believe he said he was celebrating his birthday that day/week.   I was told that he died of a heart attack. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 21, 2023, 07:29:27 PM
Again homie was an alledged "Millionaire" He was all in on Sosua (till he wasn't)  why didn't he buy a place? Couldn't super effiecient modern appliances helped keep the price down?  Or did he get scammed by the Power company and didn't know any better because he didn't ask?
Well he did buy a place.  The one in Sosua.  But a year and a half later he took on the place in PP.   This is just my guess.  But around the time he got the place in PP,  he was getting a lot of heat from the Dominicans that did not appreciate some of his content putting Dominicans on blast. 

Around that time he removed alot of his content, and took a break from vlogging.  Started being a philanthropist/humanitarian.   As for the house,  there could be a number of reasons why he didnt buy the house.  For one, he still had the condo in Sosua.   2ndly,  he got his travel legs, and started going abroad.

And BTW, as an expat, when he bought the condo,  I thought that was a knee jerk move.  Mainly because, he never lived in the DR full time before.  It would have been wiser to rent the place in Sosua for a while.  Find out how living in the DR, particularly Sosua is,  and then make an educated decision on where you might want to live.   As an expat/vet, that has been exactly what I would recommend to just about any dude that I met in Sosua looking for some feedback.

So basically he did something that I thought was an unwise move.  And look what happened?  He ended up leaving the condo to rent someplace else.  As for the new place.  Many houses and apartments 5 or more years ago did not have the energy efficient appliances that we have today.

Im willing to bet that whatever appliances that were there, was already there when he moved in.  Just like a lot of the old monger hotels.  Old air cons that use a lot of electricity, and old box TVs or cheap small flat screen TVs.   Maybe he did some upgrades along the way, but who knows?  He would. 

At the house in PP,  he had air cons all over the house, and a pool.  Just to keep the pool clean, a refrigerator , a freezer and running a/c day and night might have ran up the electric bill.   

Judging by the way he left the condo to live in PP, Im willing to bet he wasnt sure how vested he would be living in that house in PP, before moving on again.
Who knows how much $$$ TMD has,,,must be make some $$ if hes mongering in thialand he still mabey owns and rents the palce in sosau. as fer as cheap rents in sosua its gone up like any where else.   even a chica i know is paying$400 for a small aparment in Sosua as she works in a hotel sure rents a re cheaper out side the tourist buble lets say caberrete charimicos and othe places, but you will need a car or a moto, you will probaly want some thing decent with security Ac Tv and internet all that stuff adds up unles you want to live real chaep no ac or running hot water half these chicas casas, no hot running water no Tv or internet  there all glude to there I phones ....so in a nut shell every things gone up !side note any one see the stock market take a dive today !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 08:24:44 PM
I want to do a deep dive into this so I'll break up my responses.

So technically TMD and Chapapa TV were paying at the top of the market rates but generally market rates for Puerto Plata

PP is bigger than the Su yet it's cheaper interesting.  I notice some of the Su 'Pat youtubers are moving into Puerta Plata and away from the Malecon, I thought it was for safety and not wanting to be surrounded by chicas 24/7 and the additional noise but it's probably because it's much cheaper
Most of PP is residential.  And foreigners make up only a fraction of the residents that live there.  Go back to lets say 2010, there werent as many foreigners living in PP then.   And those that were living in PP, the rents and the amount of space you got for your money was a win/win.   

Foreigners were usually known to stay in resorts.  Sosua on the other hand,  is much smaller.  But more touristic.   Look at the people that come from far and wide just to be in Sosua to hustle.  Most locals in PP have regular jobs.   Where they are used to being around mostly other locals. 

Santiago is similar.  Santiago is not touristic.  It caters mostly to locals.  Rents and the amount of space one can get used to be very affordable.  But now more foreigners and well to do locals are paying more, in certain areas of Santiago.

The real estate gold rush extends Island wide. You can get to Sosua within 5 hours from almost any place in the DR and you're no more than two hours away from a beach no matter where you are.

A guy can live in Monticristi (and I know a guy who has a farm up there) and go to Sosua whenever he wants. To most at this juncture the juice of cheaper rents living in La Vega is not worth the squeeze of having everything at your fingertips in Santo Domingo.

The bubble may crack slightly now that all those Russians are getting sanctioned.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on February 21, 2023, 08:27:28 PM
Again homie was an alledged "Millionaire" He was all in on Sosua (till he wasn't)  why didn't he buy a place? Couldn't super effiecient modern appliances helped keep the price down?  Or did he get scammed by the Power company and didn't know any better because he didn't ask?
Well he did buy a place.  The one in Sosua.  But a year and a half later he took on the place in PP.   This is just my guess.  But around the time he got the place in PP,  he was getting a lot of heat from the Dominicans that did not appreciate some of his content putting Dominicans on blast. 

Around that time he removed alot of his content, and took a break from vlogging.  Started being a philanthropist/humanitarian.   As for the house,  there could be a number of reasons why he didnt buy the house.  For one, he still had the condo in Sosua.   2ndly,  he got his travel legs, and started going abroad.

And BTW, as an expat, when he bought the condo,  I thought that was a knee jerk move.  Mainly because, he never lived in the DR full time before.  It would have been wiser to rent the place in Sosua for a while.  Find out how living in the DR, particularly Sosua is,  and then make an educated decision on where you might want to live.   As an expat/vet, that has been exactly what I would recommend to just about any dude that I met in Sosua looking for some feedback.

So basically he did something that I thought was an unwise move.  And look what happened?  He ended up leaving the condo to rent someplace else.  As for the new place.  Many houses and apartments 5 or more years ago did not have the energy efficient appliances that we have today.

Im willing to bet that whatever appliances that were there, was already there when he moved in.  Just like a lot of the old monger hotels.  Old air cons that use a lot of electricity, and old box TVs or cheap small flat screen TVs.   Maybe he did some upgrades along the way, but who knows?  He would. 

At the house in PP,  he had air cons all over the house, and a pool.  Just to keep the pool clean, a refrigerator , a freezer and running a/c day and night might have ran up the electric bill.   

Judging by the way he left the condo to live in PP, Im willing to bet he wasnt sure how vested he would be living in that house in PP, before moving on again.
Who knows how much $$$ TMD has,,,must be make some $$ if hes mongering in thialand he still mabey owns and rents the palce in sosau. as fer as cheap rents in sosua its gone up like any where else.   even a chica i know is paying$400 for a small aparment in Sosua as she works in a hotel sure rents a re cheaper out side the tourist buble lets say caberrete charimicos and othe places, but you will need a car or a moto, you will probaly want some thing decent with security Ac Tv and internet all that stuff adds up unles you want to live real chaep no ac or running hot water half these chicas casas, no hot running water no Tv or internet  there all glude to there I phones ....so in a nut shell every things gone up !side note any one see the stock market take a dive today !

Speaking strictly for the overall market, yes. Wouldn't worry too much about it though if you're holding something like an SP500 index fund mostly. You're always going to have shakeouts periodically, but over the long term it has always gone up. I'm expecting there to be a shorter term blip downwards -days-weeks - but over next few months and into 2024, an upward trend. This is the year before an election year. Historically, though not always, it's a year where the incumbent party in the White House has a tendency to do what it can to provide a favorable environment for the market - they want voters to be happy to have them in power. Unless there are any more geopolitical events that scare markets like the Ukraine war did at first, or blackswan events (global pandemics, financial sector meltdowns/bubble bursts), the overall market seems poised to resume an upward bias. And what does this have to do with observations on the strip? Nothing, unless I prove to be correct and it yields some of us a bit of extra banana and toto money to play with on the strip.
Disclaimer: no, I'm not qualified to give stock market advice, and no, I'm not a zillionaire. I'm a working stiff, and if I'm lucky to retire, I'ma have to watch my pennies just like the rest of us. I'm just an old fart whose kept his finger on the market's pulse since very young and it's gotten to the point where the worst news don't bother me. I refused to sell with the 2000 DOT COM bubble crash. I refused to sell during the 2008 mortage/real estate bubble crash. I refused to sell during the 2020 covid pandemic. It always comes back in a big way in a few short years (longest bear market ever about 2.5 years) and makes every downturn look like a small blip on a chart. It's just a matter of time. I'm on track to afford some quality time with the one-eyed Haitian that roams the strip, if she's still around when I decide to finally smell the roses.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 08:37:55 PM
Again homie was an alledged "Millionaire" He was all in on Sosua (till he wasn't)  why didn't he buy a place? Couldn't super effiecient modern appliances helped keep the price down?  Or did he get scammed by the Power company and didn't know any better because he didn't ask?
Well he did buy a place.  The one in Sosua.  But a year and a half later he took on the place in PP.   This is just my guess.  But around the time he got the place in PP,  he was getting a lot of heat from the Dominicans that did not appreciate some of his content putting Dominicans on blast. 

Around that time he removed alot of his content, and took a break from vlogging.  Started being a philanthropist/humanitarian.   As for the house,  there could be a number of reasons why he didnt buy the house.  For one, he still had the condo in Sosua.   2ndly,  he got his travel legs, and started going abroad.

And BTW, as an expat, when he bought the condo,  I thought that was a knee jerk move.  Mainly because, he never lived in the DR full time before.  It would have been wiser to rent the place in Sosua for a while.  Find out how living in the DR, particularly Sosua is,  and then make an educated decision on where you might want to live.   As an expat/vet, that has been exactly what I would recommend to just about any dude that I met in Sosua looking for some feedback.

So basically he did something that I thought was an unwise move.  And look what happened?  He ended up leaving the condo to rent someplace else.  As for the new place.  Many houses and apartments 5 or more years ago did not have the energy efficient appliances that we have today.

Im willing to bet that whatever appliances that were there, was already there when he moved in.  Just like a lot of the old monger hotels.  Old air cons that use a lot of electricity, and old box TVs or cheap small flat screen TVs.   Maybe he did some upgrades along the way, but who knows?  He would. 

At the house in PP,  he had air cons all over the house, and a pool.  Just to keep the pool clean, a refrigerator , a freezer and running a/c day and night might have ran up the electric bill.   

Judging by the way he left the condo to live in PP, Im willing to bet he wasnt sure how vested he would be living in that house in PP, before moving on again.

He had one foot out the door for years before he left. The fact that he was the world's most formost expert on Sosua kept him there sorta like Flip Flop.

You'll never get the real story from him alledgely the reason he dipped from the Sosua condo is because he was tired of hoes grabbing his junk whenever he stepped on Pedro. Every longtime Su 'Pat  told me afterwhile the women leave you alone unless you're buying. TMD copped to smashing almost every day even at 63 so maybe he did pick up something on PC enough for chicks to make a play for him everytime they saw him.

Again he also said the PP spot was for security granted the burgulary was an inside job but still you'd assume that he'd  know better.

I like Balconies but there's no way I'd get a place with a Balcony if I didn't have security gates on the windows even if you wanted or had to go Low tech I would've gotten 3M shatterproof glass (this is the carribean we're talking about Hurricanes happen) and 2X4  to make it not that easy for someone to climb up and jimmy the window.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 08:54:02 PM


You mentioned the Phillipines so you have checked out all of the main monger hubs we know how you feel about Colombia and Thailand what about the Phillipines made it a No for you?

I know a guy who left his Condo in Angeles City for Cali and not looking back. He ws renting his One bedroom out to Koreans for 700 a month.

Even if pussy was 30 bucks for Overnights if 700 is standard for a one bedroom that means the Phillipines is actually pretty expensive.

Like Colombia I hear that Phillipino food is nothing to write home about. i did hear that despite the frequency of guys getting the Clap that the Phillipines was a barebackers paradise as well as a Backpackers paradise.
I never said the Philippines was a NO.  Colombia for me is a NO.  Nothing wrong with Colombia.   I spent 29 days there.  But food choices was a problem.   I like the Philippines.   Im comfortable being there.  Living there.   Filipino food is not the only food to eat in the Philippines. 

In fact one can get just about any type of food they want.   I have a very good Thai restaurant I go to all of the time.   As well as an Indian restaurant, I like.  Several places that serve multiple cuisines.  A steakhouse restaurant I like.  There's a wholesale club I go to to get stuff I like.     

The most important thing is, it's usually better to experience a place for oneself, rather than relying on word of mouth or assumptions alone.   YMMD.   Thailand is not for everybody.  Sosua is not for everybody.  The Philippines is not for everybody.   Places in Africa is not for everybody.  Colombia is not for everybody.  Brazil is not for everybody.   Everyone is free to find what works for them.   Me?   With my passport,  I can explore and/or live where I want as long as it's open to me and safe.

I get it we're just spitballin'here, this may help the newbie who's starting a thread saying First Time Traveler help me decide.

That being said information is power especially if you know what you want

For example my Paradise would be New York City in the Tropics, all the amenities of living in the "greatest city on earth" with better weather and no family court, no duluth protocols no #METOO and no Feminism.

Move Manhattan Island to where Hispanola is and I'd be happy.

Obviously this doesn't exist but that's what I'd want a low cost Long Island.

The Phillipine Expat is one of the best expat channels out not just for the Phillipines but general travel,  I'm not even subbed to him but I know just enough to know that I don't want to be swatting flies in the boondocks (turns out that's a Tagalong phrase) where he is.

AC & Manilla is too dirty for me ( I know NYC is way dirtier) I could live there and I will defenitely visit but generally it's a NO for me, and that doesn't even mention the fact that I have a preference and I like my culture. So far FOR ME. Colombia checks most of the boxes, If Colombia just delevoped Buenaventura for tourism then Cali would check almost every box I have.

Most people moan about Dub Dubs and gringos in general but everyone likes Bitches beaches and buddies in that order and the DR and Sosua specifically has that in spades.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 08:59:14 PM

Even if pussy was 30 bucks for Overnights if 700 is standard for a one bedroom that means the Phillipines is actually pretty expensive.

Again, this is why it's best to go and see for yourself, rather than rely on limited information or very few examples.  $700 a month for a one BR is not standard in the Philippines.   It all depends on where one lives.   

I have a very nice 2br, 2 bath apartment in the Philippines, with a 3rd floor loft room that runs the length of the bldg.  A driveway in which to park a car.  I pay in pesos.   Last year when the exchange rate was 58 to 1,  my rent was only 20,000 pesos ($345 a month.)    When the exchange rate was 48 to 1,  it was about $418 a month.   

When I was locked out during the pandemic, I had turned off my electricity.  But my monthly bill for electric was only 50 pesos a month.  Water bill 320 pesos a month.   This time I decided to leave my electric on.  My 1st bill after I left is about 300 pesos.   Thats what I will pay every month, until I return.   All inverter/energy appliances I paid for,  as well as all of my furniture. 

My point being.  A person can live very affordably and comfortably abroad, without breaking the bank.  Im sure it's the same in Colombia or Thailand and other places.   One place I looked at back in 2019 ( in the PH ), was a small 2br, one bath house.  A small back yard.  Very small parking space.  At the time they wanted $25,000 pesos for it ( about $490 ).  It was ok, but I wasnt feeling having only one bathroom.  And old a/cs installed.     Im glad that I held out for the place I have now.   

In the Philippines, I had several expat friends with very nice places too.  And paying close to what I am paying.   Many guys can end up paying $1,000 USD or more for a place.  But thats usually guys renting or buying places that are expensive mainly because foreigners live there, it has security staff, and also many are already fully furnished.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 09:01:21 PM
Tuesday February 21, 2023

An absolutely beautiful sunny, warm day on the beach.   Was saddened to hear, that a dude I know died 2 days ago in his Casa Linda place.  Less than 2 weeks ago he was sitting with me and my buddy on the beach. 
I believe he said he was celebrating his birthday that day/week.   I was told that he died of a heart attack.

That's too bad but there's worse places to check out at. One reason why I might want to live in a High rise is a well tipped nosy Security Guard might find my body before it rots in the heat, add in a Liked One who would hopefully give enough of a f--k to have my body shipped to the states. I qualify to be buried at Arlington but I suspect it will be full by the time I check out.

I wonder if there's a way I could pay for someone to ensure my body goes back to the states and my family proberly notified some kind of death insurance if I had plenty of buddies maybe they'd at least notify the embassy. I have to ask them what's the procedure.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 21, 2023, 09:19:51 PM

He had one foot out the door for years before he left. The fact that he was the world's most formost expert on Sosua kept him there sorta like Flip Flop.

You'll never get the real story from him alledgely the reason he dipped from the Sosua condo is because he was tired of hoes grabbing his junk whenever he stepped on Pedro. Every longtime Su 'Pat  told me afterwhile the women leave you alone unless you're buying. TMD copped to smashing almost every day even at 63 so maybe he did pick up something on PC enough for chicks to make a play for him everytime they saw him.

Again he also said the PP spot was for security granted the burgulary was an inside job but still you'd assume that he'd  know better.

I like Balconies but there's no way I'd get a place with a Balcony if I didn't have security gates on the windows even if you wanted or had to go Low tech I would've gotten 3M shatterproof glass (this is the carribean we're talking about Hurricanes happen) and 2X4  to make it not that easy for someone to climb up and jimmy the window.
That version I wouldnt believe it , even if somebody paid me.   And I dont think he's that old yet. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on February 21, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
Again homie was an alledged "Millionaire" He was all in on Sosua (till he wasn't)  why didn't he buy a place? Couldn't super effiecient modern appliances helped keep the price down?  Or did he get scammed by the Power company and didn't know any better because he didn't ask?
Well he did buy a place.  The one in Sosua.  But a year and a half later he took on the place in PP.   This is just my guess.  But around the time he got the place in PP,  he was getting a lot of heat from the Dominicans that did not appreciate some of his content putting Dominicans on blast. 

Around that time he removed alot of his content, and took a break from vlogging.  Started being a philanthropist/humanitarian.   As for the house,  there could be a number of reasons why he didnt buy the house.  For one, he still had the condo in Sosua.   2ndly,  he got his travel legs, and started going abroad.

And BTW, as an expat, when he bought the condo,  I thought that was a knee jerk move.  Mainly because, he never lived in the DR full time before.  It would have been wiser to rent the place in Sosua for a while.  Find out how living in the DR, particularly Sosua is,  and then make an educated decision on where you might want to live.   As an expat/vet, that has been exactly what I would recommend to just about any dude that I met in Sosua looking for some feedback.

So basically he did something that I thought was an unwise move.  And look what happened?  He ended up leaving the condo to rent someplace else.  As for the new place.  Many houses and apartments 5 or more years ago did not have the energy efficient appliances that we have today.

Im willing to bet that whatever appliances that were there, was already there when he moved in.  Just like a lot of the old monger hotels.  Old air cons that use a lot of electricity, and old box TVs or cheap small flat screen TVs.   Maybe he did some upgrades along the way, but who knows?  He would. 

At the house in PP,  he had air cons all over the house, and a pool.  Just to keep the pool clean, a refrigerator , a freezer and running a/c day and night might have ran up the electric bill.   

Judging by the way he left the condo to live in PP, Im willing to bet he wasnt sure how vested he would be living in that house in PP, before moving on again.
Who knows how much $$$ TMD has,,,must be make some $$ if hes mongering in thialand he still mabey owns and rents the palce in sosau. as fer as cheap rents in sosua its gone up like any where else.   even a chica i know is paying$400 for a small aparment in Sosua as she works in a hotel sure rents a re cheaper out side the tourist buble lets say caberrete charimicos and othe places, but you will need a car or a moto, you will probaly want some thing decent with security Ac Tv and internet all that stuff adds up unles you want to live real chaep no ac or running hot water half these chicas casas, no hot running water no Tv or internet  there all glude to there I phones ....so in a nut shell every things gone up !side note any one see the stock market take a dive today !

Speaking strictly for the overall market, yes. Wouldn't worry too much about it though if you're holding something like an SP500 index fund mostly. You're always going to have shakeouts periodically, but over the long term it has always gone up. I'm expecting there to be a shorter term blip downwards -days-weeks - but over next few months and into 2024, an upward trend. This is the year before an election year. Historically, though not always, it's a year where the incumbent party in the White House has a tendency to do what it can to provide a favorable environment for the market - they want voters to be happy to have them in power. Unless there are any more geopolitical events that scare markets like the Ukraine war did at first, or blackswan events (global pandemics, financial sector meltdowns/bubble bursts), the overall market seems poised to resume an upward bias. And what does this have to do with observations on the strip? Nothing, unless I prove to be correct and it yields some of us a bit of extra banana and toto money to play with on the strip.
Disclaimer: no, I'm not qualified to give stock market advice, and no, I'm not a zillionaire. I'm a working stiff, and if I'm lucky to retire, I'ma have to watch my pennies just like the rest of us. I'm just an old fart whose kept his finger on the market's pulse since very young and it's gotten to the point where the worst news don't bother me. I refused to sell with the 2000 DOT COM bubble crash. I refused to sell during the 2008 mortage/real estate bubble crash. I refused to sell during the 2020 covid pandemic. It always comes back in a big way in a few short years (longest bear market ever about 2.5 years) and makes every downturn look like a small blip on a chart. It's just a matter of time. I'm on track to afford some quality time with the one-eyed Haitian that roams the strip, if she's still around when I decide to finally smell the roses.
Funny you mentiond the one eyed haitian shes alive and well, my last trip i gave her 300 pesos for food i did not hire her for exstras she haunted me a  few times,, i should have bent her over a couch and dump one in her haha !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 21, 2023, 10:48:22 PM

Even if pussy was 30 bucks for Overnights if 700 is standard for a one bedroom that means the Phillipines is actually pretty expensive.

Again, this is why it's best to go and see for yourself, rather than rely on limited information or very few examples.  $700 a month for a one BR is not standard in the Philippines.   It all depends on where one lives.   

I have a very nice 2br, 2 bath apartment in the Philippines, with a 3rd floor loft room that runs the length of the bldg.  A driveway in which to park a car.  I pay in pesos.   Last year when the exchange rate was 58 to 1,  my rent was only 20,000 pesos ($345 a month.)    When the exchange rate was 48 to 1,  it was about $418 a month.   

When I was locked out during the pandemic, I had turned off my electricity.  But my monthly bill for electric was only 50 pesos a month.  Water bill 320 pesos a month.   This time I decided to leave my electric on.  My 1st bill after I left is about 300 pesos.   Thats what I will pay every month, until I return.   All inverter/energy appliances I paid for,  as well as all of my furniture. 

My point being.  A person can live very affordably and comfortably abroad, without breaking the bank.  Im sure it's the same in Colombia or Thailand and other places.   One place I looked at back in 2019 ( in the PH ), was a small 2br, one bath house.  A small back yard.  Very small parking space.  At the time they wanted $25,000 pesos for it ( about $490 ).  It was ok, but I wasnt feeling having only one bathroom.  And old a/cs installed.     Im glad that I held out for the place I have now.   

In the Philippines, I had several expat friends with very nice places too.  And paying close to what I am paying.   Many guys can end up paying $1,000 USD or more for a place.  But thats usually guys renting or buying places that are expensive mainly because foreigners live there, it has security staff, and also many are already fully furnished.   

Let me find out my buddy got the TMD treatment. He also bought while still working and admitted that he never spent more than 6 weeks in the Phillipines at any one time.  he's lucky he found a fool to pay his mortgage.

That being said unless you're gonna tell me your spot is in Northern Mindanao 345 a month is a decent price.

Maybe it's the Sosuaitzation of the Phillipines to charge such wildly different prices.

The other downsides might be Phillipino style toilets and of course the fact that you can't own land outright. The possibility of Pinay Pussy Possesing your pad simply because she posts up there is an issue as well.  Add in the pleathora of Pancake ass and Sosua looks good in comparison.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 22, 2023, 04:50:52 PM
So I’m sitting out on the street seating area of Rumba late last night and suddenly there’s a unicorn right out in front. Had that straight off Caribe Tours look about her. Very pretty girl. A guy from inside sends his Dominican guide out front to nab her. What does this fella start doing?  Commences to try to wine and dine her. I’m like asshole take that chick back to your place and f--k her. After that he would know if she was worth pursuing. For what ever reason the shit irritated me. Lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 22, 2023, 05:26:21 PM
So I’m sitting out on the street seating area of Rumba late last night and suddenly there’s a unicorn right out in front. Had that straight off Caribe Tours look about her. Very pretty girl. A guy from inside sends his Dominican guide out front to nab her. What does this fella start doing?  Commences to try to wine and dine her. I’m like asshole take that chick back to your place and f--k her. After that he would know if she was worth pursuing. For what ever reason the shit irritated me. Lol

Your joking…. Right?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 22, 2023, 05:32:32 PM
So I’m sitting out on the street seating area of Rumba late last night and suddenly there’s a unicorn right out in front. Had that straight off Caribe Tours look about her. Very pretty girl. A guy from inside sends his Dominican guide out front to nab her. What does this fella start doing?  Commences to try to wine and dine her. I’m like asshole take that chick back to your place and f--k her. After that he would know if she was worth pursuing. For what ever reason the shit irritated me. Lol

Your joking…. Right?

No. I’m serious. 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 22, 2023, 05:36:32 PM
Wow…
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 08:29:37 AM
So I’m sitting out on the street seating area of Rumba late last night and suddenly there’s a unicorn right out in front. Had that straight off Caribe Tours look about her. Very pretty girl. A guy from inside sends his Dominican guide out front to nab her. What does this fella start doing?  Commences to try to wine and dine her. I’m like asshole take that chick back to your place and f--k her. After that he would know if she was worth pursuing. For what ever reason the shit irritated me. Lol
Im bored.  So let me get this straight.  You were sitting out front of Kings/Rumba that night.  You said you saw a unicorn out front. 

Im assuming you mean she had the attributes that might make her a good provider, right?.  You also found her to be very pretty.  That would appear to qualify her to be hired, or at the very least to be pursued by you.    I'm assuming that since you were out front, you had a better vantage point and enough time to get that very pretty unicorn yourself, take her back to your spot and f--k her. 

For some odd reason,  while you were out front just looking at this very pretty unicorn, you allowed some dude from inside of Kings, to pursue her after you spotted her 1st?   Sends someone outside to get her to come inside.   So what Im curious about, how does a guy who has a problem with other guys hesitating on  going for chicks and just sitting around looking and staring, miss an opportunity of getting with a chick he claims is a very pretty unicorn? 

The dude that wanted the chick was inside, and you were outside.  Which means you spotted her 1st.   And by your description of the girl, you were checking her out long enough to know she was worth pursing maybe even hiring right on the spot, just like the other guy.   

Then, once some other guy takes some initiative.....you become disturbed over the guy taking the time to vett the chick with food and drink, before taking her to f--k.  But you dont see nothing wrong with your own blatant inaction towards pursuing the chick yourself?  And even if you werent going to take the chick right then,  did you make any type of contact with the chick before the other guy did?  If not, why not? 

Also what seems clear to me.  When you are out and about,  you seem to do a lot of looking and judging of what other guys are doing or not doing.  Meanwhile you dont give your own behavior much thought to how other guys might pay attention to you and make their own assessment of how you operate. 

Technically,  since you are not into dudes hesitating or taking their time.  You were supposed to be the one to pursue the unicorn,  not some dude inside of the restaurant.   What were you doing that was so important that you noticed that chick but you couldnt make your own move to pursue the chick?

And please dont tell me that you already had a date set up for later, or you were spent from a recent session. Thats no excuse, because you still could have exchanged contact information with this unicorn.   Also you werent talking to a chick in front of you, because you were clearly focused on the chick and who finally  approached her.   This is what I dont get.  Why is it you tend to judge how other guys roll?  What  other guys do or dont do, but you apparently have another standard for yourself? 

Suppose that guy inside of Kings was watching you?  Thinking to himself.  Why is that dude looking at her like that?  Salivating over her but not making no moves?   Dude inside says f--k it.  If he and nobody else isnt going for her, I will.   Im glad I saw her from this distance.    If he mentally called you out for not pursuing the chick yourself, would it be fair for him doing so, especially based on how you judge other men for not pursuing women according to your standards or expectations? 

Im just curious, and bored. 

       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 08:43:37 AM
Another question.  If you were sitting out in front of Kings, and the guy she eventually was with was inside, what did you do to confirm that the dude was entertaining the chick inside with food and drink?   Was it that you needed to go inside to take a piss, and then took the time to seek her out and see who she was with?   

Or did you purposely go inside just so you can get a close up of who she came inside to sit with?   Or both?   Or were you deliberately peeking through or around the partition separating the inside and outside seating area?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 08:56:27 AM
In Sosua, 4 beautiful sunny warm ( not very hot ) days just passed.  Today Sunday February 26, looks promising.   It's the early morning shower and clouds that keeps throwing me off, to how the rest of the day may be.   Each day ( last 4 days ) that started off cloudy, ended up being a very nice day.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 09:33:26 AM
Another interesting observation :    A few weeks ago, I mentioned that I did not recall many Haitian males out and about on the strip.   I had originally presumed that many Haitian males got snatched up and deported.  That may be true,  but there are still plenty around.

I saw enough of them in the last few nights.  Most of them are the ones many of us have always seen.  I guess they have their papers in order.   Some might be both Dominican and Haitian, and might have a cedula instead of just a passport.  There are a few very young Haitian ( boys ) beggars going around. 

Also I noticed, about a dozen or more Haitian chicas on foot patrol.  What was interesting is, the ones I saw the most werent sticking to or around Bar Central or the German restaurant.  All of these chicks were patrolling where they could possibly get the most money.  Kings primarily,  Chez Montreal and just walking back and forth like extras in a movie. 

Of course many Dominican chicks were on foot patrol as well.  Many many chicks available trying to get hired but they look pathetic in my opinion.   Someone some time ago brought up the possibility that many of these chicks are gonna lose a lot of their leverage as time passes.   Due to all of the f--ked up business practices that they put out there. 

Just to look at them being reduced to being a streetwalker instead of looking like a chick with some class,  it's sad to see.   I dont care how fine some of them look,  how sexy they are dressing, how much makeup and other props they're using,  many of them look pathetic.   Nowa days,  dozens , maybe hundreds of guys have encountered almost every single one of these chicks in one form or another.

We know how much they expect,  we know how some of them are as providers.  We know who is worth it and who isnt.  We know who looks great, but we also know she told guys she wants $200.   Do you know what all of this does to the hiring rate for enough of these women?   

It makes most of the women on the strip nothing but fixtures.   Yes some guys are hiring them.  But for every chick that fails to perform,  tries to rush a dude,  or gives a dude some other problem,  the more the p4p game for chicas overall gets worse.   

Later out of curiosity I stopped by City Lights.   It was sort of dead.  More Haitian chica staff, than patrons.  I was wondering.  Now that City Lights is open,  why arent many of the Haitian chicks I saw out on foot patrol inside of City Lights trying to score a client?   And why werent many Haitian chicas hanging exclusively around Bar Central or the German restaurant, like they usually do?   

Is it because the white dudes have caught on to the shenanigans coming from many of these Haitian chicks?    Them trying to get paid as much or close to what the DR chicks are trying to get?  Them dudes at those places arent trying to pay 3500 to 5000 pesos for ST with a Haitian chick. 

And they arent trying to get hustled by some Haitian chick thats trying to get back on the strip within 30 minutes.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 26, 2023, 09:57:39 AM
Of course many Dominican chicks were on foot patrol as well.  Many many chicks available trying to get hired but they look pathetic in my opinion.   Someone some time ago brought up the possibility that many of these chicks are gonna lose a lot of their leverage as time passes.   Due to all of the f--ked up business practices that they put out there. 

I’m not surprised. It was only a matter of time before the message really got around by word of mouth and through social media, what types of chicas dudes need to avoid.

I think the $100 ST quote has finally turned enough dudes off that most dudes, newbies and all, are really not paying it, and these chicas aren’t getting any business. Of course, the chica response to that now, is to try to give themselves a raise and settle at $80 USD (like it’s some sort of new average) and dudes need to reject that shit as well.

I’m also impressed to hear that chicas serving bad attitudes and bad service are getting benched. They forget that dudes talk too.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 10:37:41 AM
Of course many Dominican chicks were on foot patrol as well.  Many many chicks available trying to get hired but they look pathetic in my opinion.   Someone some time ago brought up the possibility that many of these chicks are gonna lose a lot of their leverage as time passes.   Due to all of the f--ked up business practices that they put out there. 

I’m not surprised. It was only a matter of time before the message really got around by word of mouth and through social media, what types of chicas dudes need to avoid.

I think the $100 ST quote has finally turned enough dudes off that most dudes, newbies and all, are really not paying it, and these chicas aren’t getting any business. Of course, the chica response to that now, is to try to give themselves a raise and settle at $80 USD (like it’s some sort of new average) and dudes need to reject that shit as well.

I’m also impressed to hear that chicas serving bad attitudes and bad service are getting benched. They forget that dudes talk too.
Thats about the size of it.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 10:38:43 AM
And it's also disappointing for me to hear/read that seasoned vets with top notch social skills are allowing unicorns to get pre hired,  instead of setting the example for how pursuing chicas is supposed to be done.

Just thinking out loud.  How long does it take for Kings to serve a guy and his chica food and drink, while a guy sitting outside is there long enough and interested enough to know about it?    Does that mean the guy sitting outside is bullshitting, looking and staring at chicks but not hiring any chicks himself?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 26, 2023, 11:31:41 AM
Like I said it's all about Click and Point for some guys, when you think about it most guys and lookiloo's  taking in the scene full kid in a candystore mode analysis paralysis so many options that they can't decide so they settle on the girl who grabs their junk and and says "Freaky Freaky Papi?""
Just like those same guys do the [Aw Shucks /i] dance when the chica says Happy Hour papi?

Usually the other chick is way less attractive but only the lonely with no experience with women allows chicas to pick them and allow the chica to set all the parameters of the date to include the price.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 26, 2023, 01:42:01 PM
So I’m sitting out on the street seating area of Rumba late last night and suddenly there’s a unicorn right out in front. Had that straight off Caribe Tours look about her. Very pretty girl. A guy from inside sends his Dominican guide out front to nab her. What does this fella start doing?  Commences to try to wine and dine her. I’m like asshole take that chick back to your place and f--k her. After that he would know if she was worth pursuing. For what ever reason the shit irritated me. Lol
Im bored.  So let me get this straight.  You were sitting out front of Kings/Rumba that night.  You said you saw a unicorn out front. 

Im assuming you mean she had the attributes that might make her a good provider, right?.  You also found her to be very pretty.  That would appear to qualify her to be hired, or at the very least to be pursued by you.    I'm assuming that since you were out front, you had a better vantage point and enough time to get that very pretty unicorn yourself, take her back to your spot and f--k her. 

For some odd reason,  while you were out front just looking at this very pretty unicorn, you allowed some dude from inside of Kings, to pursue her after you spotted her 1st?   Sends someone outside to get her to come inside.   So what Im curious about, how does a guy who has a problem with other guys hesitating on  going for chicks and just sitting around looking and staring, miss an opportunity of getting with a chick he claims is a very pretty unicorn? 

The dude that wanted the chick was inside, and you were outside.  Which means you spotted her 1st.   And by your description of the girl, you were checking her out long enough to know she was worth pursing maybe even hiring right on the spot, just like the other guy.   

Then, once some other guy takes some initiative.....you become disturbed over the guy taking the time to vett the chick with food and drink, before taking her to f--k.  But you dont see nothing wrong with your own blatant inaction towards pursuing the chick yourself?  And even if you werent going to take the chick right then,  did you make any type of contact with the chick before the other guy did?  If not, why not? 

Also what seems clear to me.  When you are out and about,  you seem to do a lot of looking and judging of what other guys are doing or not doing.  Meanwhile you dont give your own behavior much thought to how other guys might pay attention to you and make their own assessment of how you operate. 

Technically,  since you are not into dudes hesitating or taking their time.  You were supposed to be the one to pursue the unicorn,  not some dude inside of the restaurant.   What were you doing that was so important that you noticed that chick but you couldnt make your own move to pursue the chick?

And please dont tell me that you already had a date set up for later, or you were spent from a recent session. Thats no excuse, because you still could have exchanged contact information with this unicorn.   Also you werent talking to a chick in front of you, because you were clearly focused on the chick and who finally  approached her.   This is what I dont get.  Why is it you tend to judge how other guys roll?  What  other guys do or dont do, but you apparently have another standard for yourself? 

Suppose that guy inside of Kings was watching you?  Thinking to himself.  Why is that dude looking at her like that?  Salivating over her but not making no moves?   Dude inside says f--k it.  If he and nobody else isnt going for her, I will.   Im glad I saw her from this distance.    If he mentally called you out for not pursuing the chick yourself, would it be fair for him doing so, especially based on how you judge other men for not pursuing women according to your standards or expectations? 

Im just curious, and bored. 

     

To be honest I was f--ked out. I had already put in two heroic efforts earlier in the day and there was no way I could successfully pull off another session. I was content to sit out front and observe the street goings on.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 26, 2023, 03:17:51 PM
To be honest I was f--ked out. I had already put in two heroic efforts earlier in the day and there was no way I could successfully pull off another session. I was content to sit out front and observe the street goings on.

Lol! Truth. After some serious smashing, the libido meter drops and you temporarily lose all desire to engage. You can only observe. 😆
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 07:22:05 PM
To be honest I was f--ked out. I had already put in two heroic efforts earlier in the day and there was no way I could successfully pull off another session. I was content to sit out front and observe the street goings on.
You know I got questions, right?   

First thing.  What does being f--ked out have to do with anything?  When is it necessary that a guy has to be ready to f--k, if he is only exchanging contact information?  Any dude just exchanging contact information, can hook up with a chick when he is ready.  No one is under any obligation to go f--k a chick,  just because she is out working. 

Next thing.  Why is it you assume the dudes you see not engaging with chicks, is indicative of them being  scared of them?   Your reason for not pursuing that pretty unicorn was because you were all f--ked out, right?.

Did it ever occur to you that you may have misjudged some of the guys you observed by assuming they were scared to approach the chicas?   Maybe they may have been content just chilling.   Just like you.      Did it ever occur to you that they may have their own reasons for not engaging?   

One being, they could have all been f--ked out.  Whatever the reason, what is it with you that you dont give other men some consideration for their own motivations and how they might roll?  Like I said before.  Other cats can easily judge you for not engaging the pretty unicorn.

They may have noticed how creepy you were checking her out,  saying nothing,  then noticed you obviously bothered by the chick not being hired to f--k right away.   You might have been observed and misjudged by your surveillance behavior?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on February 26, 2023, 07:26:42 PM
To be honest I was f--ked out. I had already put in two heroic efforts earlier in the day and there was no way I could successfully pull off another session. I was content to sit out front and observe the street goings on.
You know I got questions, right?   

First thing.  What does being f--ked out have to do with anything?  When is it necessary that a guy has to be ready to f--k, if he is only exchanging contact information?  Any dude just exchanging contact information, can hook up with a chick when he is ready.  No one is under any obligation to go f--k a chick,  just because she is out working. 

Next thing.  Why is it you assume the dudes you see not engaging with chicks, is indicative of them being  scared of them?   Your reason for not pursuing that pretty unicorn was because you were all f--ked out, right?.

Did it ever occur to you that you may have misjudged some of the guys you observed by assuming they were scared to approach the chicas?   Maybe they may have been content just chilling.   Just like you.      Did it ever occur to you that they may have their own reasons for not engaging?   

One being, they could have all been f--ked out.  Whatever the reason, what is it with you that you dont give other men some consideration for their own motivations and how they might roll?

I knew you were going to go there. Touché. 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 26, 2023, 07:31:00 PM
To be honest I was f--ked out. I had already put in two heroic efforts earlier in the day and there was no way I could successfully pull off another session. I was content to sit out front and observe the street goings on.
You know I got questions, right?   

First thing.  What does being f--ked out have to do with anything?  When is it necessary that a guy has to be ready to f--k, if he is only exchanging contact information?  Any dude just exchanging contact information, can hook up with a chick when he is ready.  No one is under any obligation to go f--k a chick,  just because she is out working. 

Next thing.  Why is it you assume the dudes you see not engaging with chicks, is indicative of them being  scared of them?   Your reason for not pursuing that pretty unicorn was because you were all f--ked out, right?.

Did it ever occur to you that you may have misjudged some of the guys you observed by assuming they were scared to approach the chicas?   Maybe they may have been content just chilling.   Just like you.      Did it ever occur to you that they may have their own reasons for not engaging?   

One being, they could have all been f--ked out.  Whatever the reason, what is it with you that you dont give other men some consideration for their own motivations and how they might roll?

I knew you were going to go there. Touché. 😂😂😂
It's ok.  Were family here.  I aint mad at you.   Im just saying.  You got to see an element of hypocrisy.  It's glaringly obvious.   At least to me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: airportlizard on February 26, 2023, 09:20:24 PM
Has anyone observed first hand the earth moving equipment clearing ground toward the Charamicos side of the beach? Malibu bar owner recently shared that word is that - true or not, even he admits - is that the plan seems to be to close off beach access from the downtown Sosua side, and permit beach access only from the Charamicos side, once the supposed plaza construction on that end has been completed. If that comes to pass, it would be interesting to see how that might change the chica presence quality on the beach, and if that new dynamic might gradually encourage classier chicas into coming to Sosua beach to blow off some steam as a break from their rigurous college curriculums down in Santiago and S.D.
Aaaahhh... a monger can dream, can't he?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: uth on February 26, 2023, 11:38:14 PM
Has anyone observed first hand the earth moving equipment clearing ground toward the Charamicos side of the beach? Malibu bar owner recently shared that word is that - true or not, even he admits - is that the plan seems to be to close off beach access from the downtown Sosua side, and permit beach access only from the Charamicos side, once the supposed plaza construction on that end has been completed. If that comes to pass, it would be interesting to see how that might change the chica presence quality on the beach, and if that new dynamic might gradually encourage classier chicas into coming to Sosua beach to blow off some steam as a break from their rigurous college curriculums down in Santiago and S.D.
Aaaahhh... a monger can dream, can't he?

No, it won't encourage any "classier chicas"
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 27, 2023, 09:51:25 AM
Sunday February 26th 2023

Chilling at Kings.   A slow afternoon on the strip overall.  Bunch of guys inside of Kings watching boxing.   Hardly any chicks inside.  The skeleton crew of chicas are on deck in Sosua and most of the chicas have gone home to spend time with their families.   Tomorrow, the 27th is a holiday.  It's the DR's Independence Day celebration.     

Around 4 or 5ish in the afternoon,  I see Flip Flop coming towards Kings looking like he was on a mission to find somebody.  A hammer partially cuffed in his hand.   Im like damn, WTF happened for him to come down there like that?    He went in Kings for maybe a minute or two, and eventually came out.   Was briefly on the sidewalk, soon to be joined by a couple of guys trying to mitigate whatever was bothering him.   

At one point, I saw what looked like he was tearing up and angry at the same time.  He was escorted down the street by the concerned guys, going towards Flip Flop.  But they just stopped on the corner of Brick Flame and was just talking.   Saw Rey from Kings walked down there to talk as well.   Rey didnt appear to be who FF had the beef with.   It may have been with the big security guard at Kings or someone else?

After a few minutes I saw FF sit down by Brick Flame or Coco Loco to just chill, accompanied by the guys that had walked with him from Kings.   FF may have stayed there a good 30 or 40 minutes before he eventually left. 

So Im curious to what was that all about.   Apparently FF had made a video earlier at Mr Flip Flop.  Towards the end of the live, 2 Dominican dudes confront FF.  One of them popping off more than the other.   According to what I understood,  FF was supposedly cut off by one of the Dominican guys?   Maybe at Kings?   Whatever happened, an altercation took place at the time.  But apparently it may not have  escalated any further other than some mutual trash talking. 

But during FF's live the Dominican he had the altercation with, comes with his brother to confront FF at Mr Flip Flop.   FF had pretty much finished his live with a guest when those guys showed up.   What ended up happening, the brother was popping off at the mouth. 

FF stood up, said a few things, and sat back down.  He wasnt nearly as confrontational as the Dominican dudes.  But where it turned uglier is after the DR guys left.   FF started talking about going to look for the guy to f--k him up.  All because of this new confrontation at the business.   So when I saw FF walking towards Kings yesterday,  he was doing like he said he was going to do.  Look for the guy to f--k him up. 

FF is known to me.  I like the brother.  I respect his hustle.  But Im worried for this brother.   He should be setting the example of what not to do when having issues with locals.  I dont care how tough someone else thinks they are, anyone can end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt f--king with the wrong people. 

There is no way FF or anybody else is going to be able to protect themselves or watch their own backs 24/7. 

Many of the locals dont give a f--k about going to jail for killing somebody.  You cant use the logic you would use where you come from to deal with locals using a whole different set of logic in how they deal with conflict.   We see how some of these chicas are, when they be cutting each other up.   They dont give a f--k about the consequences. 

Moreover, it's obvious to me, that alcohol consumption on FF's side is the most significant factor that contributed to a need to express his aggression.   To seek , find and destroy some dude that threatened him.  Not even the guy he originally had the beef with.  But he felt the need to go after the brother, because he was verbally threatened. 

Now please tell me?  Even if you beat the brother up, what exactly will be the cost for you doing that?  You might lose your business to a mysterious fire.   Get retaliated against physically.   Get your vehicle damaged.   You may never know when shit might happen.   You could be sitting at your spot and someone runs up on you a month later to toss some acid on you or cuts you up.   

The best advice and best course of action, is to avoid heated confrontations with locals.   Even if they do some f--ked up shit.  Resist the urge to feel you need to set them straight.  For example.   Some Dominican cuts you off while driving, but there is no contact or accident.  Let that shit go.   Yeah you might be mad or angry by what was done.  But you dont know what is in a mofos mind, who might be looking for a reason to cut or shoot someone.   This aint the place to get macho or fight every battle on principle. 

Pick your battles wisely, and handle them creatively.  And if ones aggression towards conflict is alcohol induced, that indeed is not the condition to be in for making decisions on how to handle an altercation.  You have a business.  You have a brand.  Right or wrong, you cant be talking about going after someone on a worldwide platform.   I hope that the guys that joined FF to talk with him over by Coco Loco, were successful in convincing him that what he was trying to do wasnt worth it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8)    This live stream has the footage of the altercation with the two Dominican dudes. What transpired and what was said after they left.   The confrontation starts @1:12:35.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 27, 2023, 10:43:37 AM
I forgot to add some other potential outcomes if things go bad dealing with locals.   You successfully beat the Dominican up.  But you get f--ked up too.   Now you got injuries and scars for something that could have been avoided.  You end up going to jail.  In jail, no food ( until someone brings it ) , no decent toilet or bed to sleep in.   And that doesnt mean you get everything someone brought to you. 

Having to deal with the stench of being locked up for hours or even days.  Maybe wearing the same clothes.   And if you seriously injure or kill the Dominican, one might find themselves facing a long term detention for months before a trial date is set.   

Remember the Dominican Jose that had the Souvenir/cigar shop on the beach?  One super heated incident terminated his life in an instant.  Had a fight with his own relative.  The relative supposedly cut an artery in Joses neck during the fight/altercation, and he bled out.   Jose might have been alive today if not for the decision to get into it with that relative.   And I do believe alcohol played a key part. 

This happened last year around the DR Independence Day.   Holiday time sometimes brings out the worst in some people.   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 27, 2023, 11:15:51 AM
Sunday February 26th 2023

Chilling at Kings.   A slow afternoon on the strip overall.  Bunch of guys inside of Kings watching boxing.   Hardly any chicks inside.  The skeleton crew of chicas are on deck in Sosua and most of the chicas have gone home to spend time with their families.   Tomorrow, the 27th is a holiday.  It's the DR's Independence Day celebration.     

Around 4 or 5ish in the afternoon,  I see Flip Flop coming towards Kings looking like he was on a mission to find somebody.  A hammer partially cuffed in his hand.   Im like damn, WTF happened for him to come down there like that?    He went in Kings for maybe a minute or two, and eventually came out.   Was briefly on the sidewalk, soon to be joined by a couple of guys trying to mitigate whatever was bothering him.   

At one point, I saw what looked like he was tearing up and angry at the same time.  He was escorted down the street by the concerned guys, going towards Flip Flop.  But they just stopped on the corner of Brick Flame and was just talking.   Saw Rey from Kings walked down there to talk as well.   Rey didnt appear to be who FF had the beef with.   It may have been with the big security guard at Kings or someone else?

After a few minutes I saw FF sit down by Brick Flame or Coco Loco to just chill, accompanied by the guys that had walked with him from Kings.   FF may have stayed there a good 30 or 40 minutes before he eventually left. 

So Im curious to what was that all about.   Apparently FF had made a video earlier at Mr Flip Flop.  Towards the end of the live, 2 Dominican dudes confront FF.  One of them popping off more than the other.   According to what I understood,  FF was supposedly cut off by one of the Dominican guys?   Maybe at Kings?   Whatever happened, an altercation took place at the time.  But apparently it may not have  escalated any further other than some mutual trash talking. 

But during FF's live the Dominican he had the altercation with, comes with his brother to confront FF at Mr Flip Flop.   FF had pretty much finished his live with a guest when those guys showed up.   What ended up happening, the brother was popping off at the mouth. 

FF stood up, said a few things, and sat back down.  He wasnt nearly as confrontational as the Dominican dudes.  But where it turned uglier is after the DR guys left.   FF started talking about going to look for the guy to f--k him up.  All because of this new confrontation at the business.   So when I saw FF walking towards Kings yesterday,  he was doing like he said he was going to do.  Look for the guy to f--k him up. 

FF is known to me.  I like the brother.  I respect his hustle.  But Im worried for this brother.   He should be setting the example of what not to do when having issues with locals.  I dont care how tough someone else thinks they are, anyone can end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt f--king with the wrong people. 

There is no way FF or anybody else is going to be able to protect themselves or watch their own backs 24/7. 

Many of the locals dont give a f--k about going to jail for killing somebody.  You cant use the logic you would use where you come from to deal with locals using a whole different set of logic in how they deal with conflict.   We see how some of these chicas are, when they be cutting each other up.   They dont give a f--k about the consequences. 

Moreover, it's obvious to me, that alcohol consumption on FF's side is the most significant factor that contributed to a need to express his aggression.   To seek , find and destroy some dude that threatened him.  Not even the guy he originally had the beef with.  But he felt the need to go after the brother, because he was verbally threatened. 

Now please tell me?  Even if you beat the brother up, what exactly will be the cost for you doing that?  You might lose your business to a mysterious fire.   Get retaliated against physically.   Get your vehicle damaged.   You may never know when shit might happen.   You could be sitting at your spot and someone runs up on you a month later to toss some acid on you or cuts you up.   

The best advice and best course of action, is to avoid heated confrontations with locals.   Even if they do some f--ked up shit.  Resist the urge to feel you need to set them straight.  For example.   Some Dominican cuts you off while driving, but there is no contact or accident.  Let that shit go.   Yeah you might be mad or angry by what was done.  But you dont know what is in a mofos mind, who might be looking for a reason to cut or shoot someone.   This aint the place to get macho or fight every battle on principle. 

Pick your battles wisely, and handle them creatively.  And if ones aggression towards conflict is alcohol induced, that indeed is not the condition to be in for making decisions on how to handle an altercation.  You have a business.  You have a brand.  Right or wrong, you cant be talking about going after someone on a worldwide platform.   I hope that the guys that joined FF to talk with him over by Coco Loco, were successful in convincing him that what he was trying to do wasnt worth it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8)    This live stream has the footage of the altercation with the two Dominican dudes. What transpired and what was said after they left.   The confrontation starts @1:12:35.   
Gawd damn.!!!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on February 27, 2023, 11:32:53 AM
Sunday February 26th 2023

Chilling at Kings.   A slow afternoon on the strip overall.  Bunch of guys inside of Kings watching boxing.   Hardly any chicks inside.  The skeleton crew of chicas are on deck in Sosua and most of the chicas have gone home to spend time with their families.   Tomorrow, the 27th is a holiday.  It's the DR's Independence Day celebration.     

Around 4 or 5ish in the afternoon,  I see Flip Flop coming towards Kings looking like he was on a mission to find somebody.  A hammer partially cuffed in his hand.   Im like damn, WTF happened for him to come down there like that?    He went in Kings for maybe a minute or two, and eventually came out.   Was briefly on the sidewalk, soon to be joined by a couple of guys trying to mitigate whatever was bothering him.   

At one point, I saw what looked like he was tearing up and angry at the same time.  He was escorted down the street by the concerned guys, going towards Flip Flop.  But they just stopped on the corner of Brick Flame and was just talking.   Saw Rey from Kings walked down there to talk as well.   Rey didnt appear to be who FF had the beef with.   It may have been with the big security guard at Kings or someone else?

After a few minutes I saw FF sit down by Brick Flame or Coco Loco to just chill, accompanied by the guys that had walked with him from Kings.   FF may have stayed there a good 30 or 40 minutes before he eventually left. 

So Im curious to what was that all about.   Apparently FF had made a video earlier at Mr Flip Flop.  Towards the end of the live, 2 Dominican dudes confront FF.  One of them popping off more than the other.   According to what I understood,  FF was supposedly cut off by one of the Dominican guys?   Maybe at Kings?   Whatever happened, an altercation took place at the time.  But apparently it may not have  escalated any further other than some mutual trash talking. 

But during FF's live the Dominican he had the altercation with, comes with his brother to confront FF at Mr Flip Flop.   FF had pretty much finished his live with a guest when those guys showed up.   What ended up happening, the brother was popping off at the mouth. 

FF stood up, said a few things, and sat back down.  He wasnt nearly as confrontational as the Dominican dudes.  But where it turned uglier is after the DR guys left.   FF started talking about going to look for the guy to f--k him up.  All because of this new confrontation at the business.   So when I saw FF walking towards Kings yesterday,  he was doing like he said he was going to do.  Look for the guy to f--k him up. 

FF is known to me.  I like the brother.  I respect his hustle.  But Im worried for this brother.   He should be setting the example of what not to do when having issues with locals.  I dont care how tough someone else thinks they are, anyone can end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt f--king with the wrong people. 

There is no way FF or anybody else is going to be able to protect themselves or watch their own backs 24/7. 

Many of the locals dont give a f--k about going to jail for killing somebody.  You cant use the logic you would use where you come from to deal with locals using a whole different set of logic in how they deal with conflict.   We see how some of these chicas are, when they be cutting each other up.   They dont give a f--k about the consequences. 

Moreover, it's obvious to me, that alcohol consumption on FF's side is the most significant factor that contributed to a need to express his aggression.   To seek , find and destroy some dude that threatened him.  Not even the guy he originally had the beef with.  But he felt the need to go after the brother, because he was verbally threatened. 

Now please tell me?  Even if you beat the brother up, what exactly will be the cost for you doing that?  You might lose your business to a mysterious fire.   Get retaliated against physically.   Get your vehicle damaged.   You may never know when shit might happen.   You could be sitting at your spot and someone runs up on you a month later to toss some acid on you or cuts you up.   

The best advice and best course of action, is to avoid heated confrontations with locals.   Even if they do some f--ked up shit.  Resist the urge to feel you need to set them straight.  For example.   Some Dominican cuts you off while driving, but there is no contact or accident.  Let that shit go.   Yeah you might be mad or angry by what was done.  But you dont know what is in a mofos mind, who might be looking for a reason to cut or shoot someone.   This aint the place to get macho or fight every battle on principle. 

Pick your battles wisely, and handle them creatively.  And if ones aggression towards conflict is alcohol induced, that indeed is not the condition to be in for making decisions on how to handle an altercation.  You have a business.  You have a brand.  Right or wrong, you cant be talking about going after someone on a worldwide platform.   I hope that the guys that joined FF to talk with him over by Coco Loco, were successful in convincing him that what he was trying to do wasnt worth it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8)    This live stream has the footage of the altercation with the two Dominican dudes. What transpired and what was said after they left.   The confrontation starts @1:12:35.   

When you say FF was supposedly cut off by the Dominican guy, possibly at Kings, cut off as in what?? Verbally or something else??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 27, 2023, 11:40:12 AM
I’m thinking driving..@Al
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on February 27, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
I’m thinking driving..@Al

Oh ok. Thanks. That’s really stupid to start shit over someone cutting you off driving. Especially in a foreign country.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 27, 2023, 11:59:27 AM

When you say FF was supposedly cut off by the Dominican guy, possibly at Kings, cut off as in what?? Verbally or something else??
It wasnt very clear, but I think it was something like the Dominican guy cut in front of him.  Maybe while walking or standing somewhere in or around Kings.  In the video I briefly heard some mention of a security guard involved.  Kings has several.  One that most people have seen, because he's been there awhile.  The big Dominican guard.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 27, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
I’m thinking driving..@Al

Oh ok. Thanks. That’s really stupid to start shit over someone cutting you off driving. Especially in a foreign country.
I went back to re watch the clip.  Flip Flop clearly said something about being jumped in front of.  Later mentioning he was cut off.   It could very well be a driving incident.  Like FF driving through on his pasola or vehicle over there by Kings, and the Dominican cutting him off or jumping in front of him.   Even if it was not a road rage incident,  that doesnt change anything.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 27, 2023, 12:18:35 PM
Yo that white guy got the hell out of there when shit jumped off.🤣🤣🤣

All jokes aside, this could be a very dangerous situation for Greg, he needs to be careful.

Ask Finger Finger, a Dominican hit him with a machete across his neck area.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on February 27, 2023, 01:05:18 PM
The white guy that jumped out of the way is the owner of Casa de Compai in Sosua.  He is an American expat that has been living in Sosua for quite some time
He knows when a potential confrontation is about to go down and knows better than to be in the middle of it. 
Lot's of those guys carry guns and don't have a problem using them

Go back and listen to the confrontation part of the video and slow the speed down to .75% or .50% and it will be more understandable

I think they are talking about a confrontation that happened at the bar the night before.  It wasn't a road rage incident.

That guy in the hat that was part of the confrontation looks very familiar and I know I have seen him out and about in Sosua
He either is a taxi driver a hustler type or works at Kings.  Possible he could have been a patron as well that night.

Greg/Flip saying things about physical threats of violence more than once on a live video feed was a very foolish thing to do.

One very important thing that needs to be understood about places like Sosua is they do not place very much value on life and it doesn't take a whole lot for a local to "take care of things" when they feel disrespected.   Especially when it is a gringo.   Greg should know better.



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 27, 2023, 01:57:42 PM
It sounds like dude in the hat said Greg was drunk and something about having a bat.

@JD66,
Your correct dude in the hat is sometimes hanging around with the guys by the ice cream parlor who exchange money. I’ve also seen him at the door at Kings.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 27, 2023, 02:26:47 PM
Slowing the video down made a difference.  The Dominican dude with the hat said something about FF being drunk.  He said it at least twice and I think he said FF brought a bat that night.   So it seems the alleged slight happened, and the situation escalated.   

Security got involved, and maybe it got squashed for the time being, that night.   And then it sparked up again the next day when both brothers came straight to Mr Flip Flop to rehash the situation.   

One key point to be made.  Some people dont need to be drinking when they go out.   And then if you are one that feels the need to be confrontational, it's only going to make the possibility of getting hurt much worse.  I wouldnt be surprised to find out that the disrespectful move FF was complaining about might have been blown out of proportion.  Including by the alleged offender. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on February 27, 2023, 03:12:05 PM
😬😬😬 Interesting video...

FLip need him some REAL security! Cause Hommie got too close...

You see, the way my nervous is set up.... lol 🤷🏽‍♂️ Sh!T would have went real bad, real quick!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on February 27, 2023, 03:46:47 PM
😬😬😬 Interesting video...

FLip need him some REAL security! Cause Hommie got too close...

You see, the way my nervous is set up.... lol 🤷🏽‍♂️ Sh!T would have went real bad, real quick!

word up they were right on him, they couldve smacked him or clapped him right there.

It's wild to think that Homie sets up his lives right there he's probably right there in the corner where the laptop is always at anyone could sneak up on him.

I'm surprised that there hasn't been a major incident yet.

Homie needs to walk light he always incinuates affiations with the Feurtados and the Corleys but that doesn't mean anything in Sosua.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 27, 2023, 03:52:57 PM
The one in the cap put hands on him three times.
And asked him what you want or going to do.

I know it would not have been a good idea but…….
After the touching Greg was suppose to sucker punch his ass and either deal with the other one or run..🤣🤣

Hit the big n……. First and watch the rest sit down.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on February 27, 2023, 04:57:24 PM
I hope there's no come back on Greg. It is never a good move to get in a beef with locals.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on February 27, 2023, 05:54:52 PM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Can’t be out there trying to run a business and having to look over your shoulder 24/7. It’s not worth it. Especially when people have easy access to you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on February 28, 2023, 04:19:40 AM
Sunday February 26th 2023

Chilling at Kings.   A slow afternoon on the strip overall.  Bunch of guys inside of Kings watching boxing.   Hardly any chicks inside.  The skeleton crew of chicas are on deck in Sosua and most of the chicas have gone home to spend time with their families.   Tomorrow, the 27th is a holiday.  It's the DR's Independence Day celebration.     

Around 4 or 5ish in the afternoon,  I see Flip Flop coming towards Kings looking like he was on a mission to find somebody.  A hammer partially cuffed in his hand.   Im like damn, WTF happened for him to come down there like that?    He went in Kings for maybe a minute or two, and eventually came out.   Was briefly on the sidewalk, soon to be joined by a couple of guys trying to mitigate whatever was bothering him.   

At one point, I saw what looked like he was tearing up and angry at the same time.  He was escorted down the street by the concerned guys, going towards Flip Flop.  But they just stopped on the corner of Brick Flame and was just talking.   Saw Rey from Kings walked down there to talk as well.   Rey didnt appear to be who FF had the beef with.   It may have been with the big security guard at Kings or someone else?

After a few minutes I saw FF sit down by Brick Flame or Coco Loco to just chill, accompanied by the guys that had walked with him from Kings.   FF may have stayed there a good 30 or 40 minutes before he eventually left. 

So Im curious to what was that all about.   Apparently FF had made a video earlier at Mr Flip Flop.  Towards the end of the live, 2 Dominican dudes confront FF.  One of them popping off more than the other.   According to what I understood,  FF was supposedly cut off by one of the Dominican guys?   Maybe at Kings?   Whatever happened, an altercation took place at the time.  But apparently it may not have  escalated any further other than some mutual trash talking. 

But during FF's live the Dominican he had the altercation with, comes with his brother to confront FF at Mr Flip Flop.   FF had pretty much finished his live with a guest when those guys showed up.   What ended up happening, the brother was popping off at the mouth. 

FF stood up, said a few things, and sat back down.  He wasnt nearly as confrontational as the Dominican dudes.  But where it turned uglier is after the DR guys left.   FF started talking about going to look for the guy to f--k him up.  All because of this new confrontation at the business.   So when I saw FF walking towards Kings yesterday,  he was doing like he said he was going to do.  Look for the guy to f--k him up. 

FF is known to me.  I like the brother.  I respect his hustle.  But Im worried for this brother.   He should be setting the example of what not to do when having issues with locals.  I dont care how tough someone else thinks they are, anyone can end up losing their lives or being seriously hurt f--king with the wrong people. 

There is no way FF or anybody else is going to be able to protect themselves or watch their own backs 24/7. 

Many of the locals dont give a f--k about going to jail for killing somebody.  You cant use the logic you would use where you come from to deal with locals using a whole different set of logic in how they deal with conflict.   We see how some of these chicas are, when they be cutting each other up.   They dont give a f--k about the consequences. 

Moreover, it's obvious to me, that alcohol consumption on FF's side is the most significant factor that contributed to a need to express his aggression.   To seek , find and destroy some dude that threatened him.  Not even the guy he originally had the beef with.  But he felt the need to go after the brother, because he was verbally threatened. 

Now please tell me?  Even if you beat the brother up, what exactly will be the cost for you doing that?  You might lose your business to a mysterious fire.   Get retaliated against physically.   Get your vehicle damaged.   You may never know when shit might happen.   You could be sitting at your spot and someone runs up on you a month later to toss some acid on you or cuts you up.   

The best advice and best course of action, is to avoid heated confrontations with locals.   Even if they do some f--ked up shit.  Resist the urge to feel you need to set them straight.  For example.   Some Dominican cuts you off while driving, but there is no contact or accident.  Let that shit go.   Yeah you might be mad or angry by what was done.  But you dont know what is in a mofos mind, who might be looking for a reason to cut or shoot someone.   This aint the place to get macho or fight every battle on principle. 

Pick your battles wisely, and handle them creatively.  And if ones aggression towards conflict is alcohol induced, that indeed is not the condition to be in for making decisions on how to handle an altercation.  You have a business.  You have a brand.  Right or wrong, you cant be talking about going after someone on a worldwide platform.   I hope that the guys that joined FF to talk with him over by Coco Loco, were successful in convincing him that what he was trying to do wasnt worth it. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSzJ4oZa4Z8)    This live stream has the footage of the altercation with the two Dominican dudes. What transpired and what was said after they left.   The confrontation starts @1:12:35.   

One thing I learned a while ago from Mario Chessa (who owned Hotel Villa Chessa before he died) is to have a great 'relationship' with police - the higher ranking the better.
After some shit like this....I would definitely call my police friends for advice.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 28, 2023, 12:47:06 PM
Greg aka Flip Flop just can’t leave this alone.

https://m.youtube.com/live/ch_hGdZBKTI?feature=sha
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 28, 2023, 01:13:03 PM
Greg aka Flip Flop just can’t leave this alone.

https://m.youtube.com/live/ch_hGdZBKTI?feature=sha
I dont understand his logic.   He seems to be praising himself about his restraint from what was seen in the video.  But what about the part where he broadcasted that he was going to f--k the dude up?  He said that in the presence of his guest that was on his live?   Even showed the hammer, that I saw later when he came to Kings.   The Dominicans could easily see that video and consider that as an ongoing threat, that they need to address 1st.

Then later, I saw him in the flesh with the hammer going into Kings to confront somebody.   Im only up to 10 minutes of this new video.   But what Im hearing now, doesnt match the lack of restraint I saw at Kings,  from what he was talking about at his place.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 28, 2023, 01:19:23 PM
Greg aka Flip Flop just can’t leave this alone.

https://m.youtube.com/live/ch_hGdZBKTI?feature=sha
I dont understand his logic.   He seems to be praising himself about his restraint from what was seen in the video.  But what about the part where he broadcasted that he was going to f--k the dude up?  He said that in the presence of his guest that was on his live?  The Dominicans could easily see that as an ongoing threat, that they need to address 1st.

Then later, I saw him in the flesh with the hammer going into Kings to confront somebody.   Im only up to 10 minutes of this new video.   But what Im hearing now, doesnt match the lack of restraint I saw at Kings,  from what he was talking about at his place.
He is going to keep playing around with those two crazy Dominicans and end up getting his head split to the white meat.

First he came with a bat, later he shows up with a hammer.. He has declared war with those actions.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 28, 2023, 01:25:15 PM
Greg aka Flip Flop just can’t leave this alone.

https://m.youtube.com/live/ch_hGdZBKTI?feature=sha
I dont understand his logic.   He seems to be praising himself about his restraint from what was seen in the video.  But what about the part where he broadcasted that he was going to f--k the dude up?  He said that in the presence of his guest that was on his live?  The Dominicans could easily see that as an ongoing threat, that they need to address 1st.

Then later, I saw him in the flesh with the hammer going into Kings to confront somebody.   Im only up to 10 minutes of this new video.   But what Im hearing now, doesnt match the lack of restraint I saw at Kings,  from what he was talking about at his place.
He is going to keep playing around with those two crazy Dominicans and end up getting his head split to the white meat.

First he came with a bat, later he shows up with a hammer.. He has declared war with those actions.
Good point.  He brought out the bat the night of the original incident.  Just because one exercises restraint at their place of business doesnt mean they are exercising good judgement by going to get a bat, or going the next day with a hammer to confront somebody.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on February 28, 2023, 01:29:01 PM
Another point.  If the Dominican is drunk, all of the experience and wisdom one may have of how the Dominican is expected to react, could easily be miscalculated.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on February 28, 2023, 01:46:02 PM
Another point.  If the Dominican is drunk, all of the experience and wisdom one may have of how the Dominican is expected to react, could easily be miscalculated.
In his latest video he said they where coke heads and high on cocaine.. Now anyone with common sense knows, a person high on cocaine can be very dangerous, factor in there crazy, scared and threatened… JEEZUS..!!!!

Leave those muthaf--ka’s alone..!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on February 28, 2023, 02:36:50 PM
Another point.  If the Dominican is drunk, all of the experience and wisdom one may have of how the Dominican is expected to react, could easily be miscalculated.
In his latest video he said they where coke heads and high on cocaine.. Now anyone with common sense knows, a person high on cocaine can be very dangerous, factor in there crazy, scared and threatened… JEEZUS..!!!!

Leave those muthaf--ka’s alone..!!

Easy fix 4 Flip...

Just give them ni66az a bad batch 🤷🏽‍♂️

On the house! Lol Lines for everyone.... 🤣🤣🤣 Whole time it be Fukin Ajax
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on February 28, 2023, 11:51:32 PM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Nobody who walks into your establishment and immediately shakes your hand, is truly looking for smoke.  Little man was just making a Big Show for his buddy or else he would have done something when Greg stood up and stepped towards them!!  The old heads taught when I was young that "It's the dog that doesn't bark, that you need to be afraid of!' 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on March 01, 2023, 03:11:56 AM
Greg aka Flip Flop just can’t leave this alone.

https://m.youtube.com/live/ch_hGdZBKTI?feature=sha

Flip need to stop that fake ass, Southside Jamaica Queens shit and quit drinking.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: HitandRun on March 01, 2023, 04:46:29 AM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Nobody who walks into your establishment and immediately shakes your hand, is truly looking for smoke.  Little man was just making a Big Show for his buddy or else he would have done something when Greg stood up and stepped towards them!!  The old heads taught when I was young that "It's the dog that doesn't bark, that you need to be afraid of!'
you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on March 01, 2023, 06:21:57 AM
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on March 01, 2023, 08:06:37 AM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Nobody who walks into your establishment and immediately shakes your hand, is truly looking for smoke.  Little man was just making a Big Show for his buddy or else he would have done something when Greg stood up and stepped towards them!!  The old heads taught when I was young that "It's the dog that doesn't bark, that you need to be afraid of!'
you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

Gringos are beating and choking out Dominican chicas over sex negotiations gone wrong everyday. You ever see or hear any of these chicas’ novios or family members stepping up for revenge on some get back? No. You don’t. So you sound a little “brainwashed” yourself, don’t you think?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: HitandRun on March 01, 2023, 08:33:50 AM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Nobody who walks into your establishment and immediately shakes your hand, is truly looking for smoke.  Little man was just making a Big Show for his buddy or else he would have done something when Greg stood up and stepped towards them!!  The old heads taught when I was young that "It's the dog that doesn't bark, that you need to be afraid of!'
you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

Gringos are beating and choking out Dominican chicas over sex negotiations gone wrong everyday. You ever see or hear any of these chicas’ novios or family members stepping up for revenge on some get back? No. You don’t. So you sound a little “brainwashed” yourself, don’t you think?
ok you are sensitive lol.
gringos are choking out chicas.
you mean choking out ho's on a strip.
you mean gringos are choking out chicas in their neghbothoods.
gtfoh
when was the last time you witness that.
also you tell me the last time you saw a gringo beat a dominicans ass?
please come up with a bs story.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 01, 2023, 08:37:05 AM
Tuesday February 28th,  2023

Was out and about on the strip early evening.  Something I said years ago still is applicable today.  You cant accurately judge the status or vibe of Sosua by one day, one week or one month.  Or one vacation from the previous vacation.  One day can be different from the next.  One vacation can be different from the next or the previous vacation.

So every time when guys ( especially myself ) try to make judgements and assessments about the status of Sosua, especially it's visitors,  they/we need to take into consideration that that report is only good for that moment.  That report or observation does not or will not necessarily be valid for another day, week or vacation.

The other day I saw chicas on foot patrol.  Hardly any activity by Bar Central, The German restaurant.  Much of the foot traffic was closer to Kings and Chez Montreal.  Hardly any chicas inside Kings on that day/night.  And not many chicks by Chez Montreal

Fast forward to last night, and this time I see a good amount of Haitian chicas posted up by Bar Central, the German restaurant, and several a few feet away just to the right of The German restaurant.   Yesterday was one of the best warm weather days weve had.  So Im assuming the beach had a few chicas strolling the beach or even sitting still at tables in the open area.

Yesterday, I must have seen a dozen different groups of guys walking together on the strip.  All seemed to be newer guys to me.   Also, you can see the increased presence of new expats.  Including guys who probably felt it was a good idea to live away from Sosua.  Like in PP, or Cabarete, but every time you look, you see them in Sosua because they dont have much going on where they chose to live. 

Sosua lights still seems very slow.   Very few Haitian chicas pile up in there looking for work.  Most seem to want to be on the strip where more action and exposure is.  Standing on the sidewalk looking like a prostitute,  they can score a client.  Sitting at a table inside of Sosua Lights waiting to score a client makes them look like they have some class.   Cant have that can we?   That takes too much time.   Guy wants to talk and buy drinks.  Many of these chicks aint got time for all of that.  Not even enough of these Haitian chicks.

The Dominican chicks we see on foot patrol.  Many of them seem to have the same MO.  Many of them dont have the patience to come inside of Kings to sit their asses down, and appear as if they have some class.  The chicks that do operate like that,  we have to slowly wait for them to return to work.   

Those are the ones that may make the effort of dressing up a little bit.  Wearing heels.  Their absence may be attributed to being with family/boyfriends etc.  And also tending to their side hustle from their Whatsapp contacts.  Like the clients flying into SDQ or STI.  Once done with them, they can hustle on up to Sosua. 

But dont be fooled gents.  That doesnt mean any of them chicks have class or are worth more than the chicks on foot patrol.  All they are doing is trying to look a certain way to fake guys out into thinking they should be paying more for the fancy package.  Stuff that easily impresses a lot of guys.  Especially many of the guys Im seeing walking around Sosua, with a DR or Haitian hustler(s) in tow. 

Still seeing dudes coming here wearing flashy jewelry and watches.  Trying to pay for shit with US cash instead of pesos.   A new set of guys that will need to learn some lessons on how to roll in this environment.  The hustlers, chicas and locals that live off of foreigners,  are in heaven. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on March 01, 2023, 09:09:51 AM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Nobody who walks into your establishment and immediately shakes your hand, is truly looking for smoke.  Little man was just making a Big Show for his buddy or else he would have done something when Greg stood up and stepped towards them!!  The old heads taught when I was young that "It's the dog that doesn't bark, that you need to be afraid of!'
you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

Gringos are beating and choking out Dominican chicas over sex negotiations gone wrong everyday. You ever see or hear any of these chicas’ novios or family members stepping up for revenge on some get back? No. You don’t. So you sound a little “brainwashed” yourself, don’t you think?
ok you are sensitive lol.
gringos are choking out chicas.
you mean choking out ho's on a strip.
you mean gringos are choking out chicas in their neghbothoods.
gtfoh
when was the last time you witness that.
also you tell me the last time you saw a gringo beat a dominicans ass?
please come up with a bs story.

I’m not sensitive at all. I just fact-check nonsense when I see it. My chica WhatsApp rolodex is extensive. I see their WhatsApp posts daily, and I see the stories they post. I’ve read many stories of gringos attacking chicas/hoes and I’ve been told that gringos have gotten away with it, if police didn’t get involved, etc. I provided that situational dynamic as an example that demonstrates that locals aren’t automatically flocking to the rescue of their own as soon as something happens to one of them. It doesn’t matter if their own is even a working girl. 

In regard to Flip, you stated that Dominicans (locals) would never let a gringo harm another Dominican without that gringo getting touched (f--ked up). That’s false. Like any other race or ethnic group, there are many Dominicans who have no desire to get mixed up in the issues another Dominican may have with a gringo.

Dominicans don’t always operate as the collectively attacking beehive you suggest when a gringo has a problem with one of them. That’s an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: HitandRun on March 01, 2023, 09:56:50 AM
Greg needs to turn down the heat. The dude he’s beefing with is a little dude. When you see a little dude trying to turn up like that, that’s an indication that he’s got something for you, i.e., a weapon.

Nobody who walks into your establishment and immediately shakes your hand, is truly looking for smoke.  Little man was just making a Big Show for his buddy or else he would have done something when Greg stood up and stepped towards them!!  The old heads taught when I was young that "It's the dog that doesn't bark, that you need to be afraid of!'
you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

Gringos are beating and choking out Dominican chicas over sex negotiations gone wrong everyday. You ever see or hear any of these chicas’ novios or family members stepping up for revenge on some get back? No. You don’t. So you sound a little “brainwashed” yourself, don’t you think?
ok you are sensitive lol.
gringos are choking out chicas.
you mean choking out ho's on a strip.
you mean gringos are choking out chicas in their neghbothoods.
gtfoh
when was the last time you witness that.
also you tell me the last time you saw a gringo beat a dominicans ass?
please come up with a bs story.

I’m not sensitive at all. I just fact-check nonsense when I see it. My chica WhatsApp rolodex is extensive. I see their WhatsApp posts daily, and I see the stories they post. I’ve read many stories of gringos attacking chicas/hoes and I’ve been told that gringos have gotten away with it, if police didn’t get involved, etc. I provided that situational dynamic as an example that demonstrates that locals aren’t automatically flocking to the rescue of their own as soon as something happens to one of them. It doesn’t matter if their own is even a working girl. 

In regard to Flip, you stated that Dominicans (locals) would never let a gringo harm another Dominican without that gringo getting touched (f--ked up). That’s false. Like any other race or ethnic group, there are many Dominicans who have no desire to get mixed up in the issues another Dominican may have with a gringo.

Dominicans don’t always operate as the collectively attacking beehive you suggest when a gringo has a problem with one of them. That’s an exaggeration.
you are beyond wrong.
most dominican males are not going to just let a gringo f them up if they do, and go lick their wounds.
they are coming back with cousins, friends, whatever.
you let on to know more than you know.
you are the same naive that think they ran from flip late that evening.
you are the same naive and kissing up to, to believe flip went hunting in the neighborhoods for them and he approached them and they ran.
no gringo is hunting down dominican people to kick their asses a d there is no consequences.
you must think this is Training Day where the white boy walks into the hood for Alonzo.
smh
plus any of you who think flp flop can whip all asses you must think less of yourself as a man and he can kick your asses.
flip flop on that video has to keep up an image to you all that worship him like scared men.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on March 01, 2023, 10:04:22 AM
Tuesday February 28th,  2023

The other day I saw chicas on foot patrol.  Hardly any activity by Bar Central, The German restaurant.  Much of the foot traffic was closer to Kings and Chez Montreal.  Hardly any chicas inside Kings on that day/night.  And not many chicks by Chez Montreal.

The Dominican chicks we see on foot patrol.  Many of them seem to have the same MO.  Many of them dont have the patience to come inside of Kings to sit their asses down, and appear as if they have some class.  The chicks that do operate like that,  we have to slowly wait for them to return to work.   

Those are the ones that may make the effort of dressing up a little bit.  Wearing heels.  Their absence may be attributed to being with family/boyfriends etc.  And also tending to their side hustle from their Whatsapp contacts.  Like the clients flying into SDQ or STI.  Once done with them, they can hustle on up to Sosua.   

Your reporting is always appreciated. 💯

I’ve spoken to a number of chicas that have told me that they dislike Kings; it’s vibe, the type of clientele that tend to frequent the place at busier times (the loud and rowdy type) etc.

I believe that’s why a fair amount of chicas don’t want to come inside and post up these days. It also doesn’t help that Kings isn’t exactly a classy looking place. Like someone once said, the spot looks like a South Bronx bingo hall, lol. I don’t like it either. I’m usually in and out of there in short order.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on March 01, 2023, 10:12:45 AM
You are beyond wrong.
most dominican males are not going to just let a gringo f them up if they do, and go lick their wounds.
they are coming back with cousins, friends, whatever.
you let on to know more than you know.
you are the same naive that think they ran from flip late that evening.
you are the same naive and kissing up to, to believe flip went hunting in the neighborhoods for them and he approached them and they ran.
no gringo is hunting down dominican people to kick their asses a d there is no consequences.
you must think this is Training Day where the white boy walks into the hood for Alonzo.
smh
plus any of you who think flp flop can whip all asses you must think less of yourself as a man and he can kick your asses.
flip flop on that video has to keep up an image to you all that worship him like scared men.

I’m not there. There’s no way for me to know if those Dominicans harassing Flip ran from him or not. 🤷🏾‍♂️

But I do know however, based on Murano’s report, that Flip definitely went looking for them.

If things escalate, yes, Flip would need to watch his back, but that goes for anyone, not just gringos.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 01, 2023, 12:08:58 PM
Tuesday February 28th,  2023

The other day I saw chicas on foot patrol.  Hardly any activity by Bar Central, The German restaurant.  Much of the foot traffic was closer to Kings and Chez Montreal.  Hardly any chicas inside Kings on that day/night.  And not many chicks by Chez Montreal.

The Dominican chicks we see on foot patrol.  Many of them seem to have the same MO.  Many of them dont have the patience to come inside of Kings to sit their asses down, and appear as if they have some class.  The chicks that do operate like that,  we have to slowly wait for them to return to work.   

Those are the ones that may make the effort of dressing up a little bit.  Wearing heels.  Their absence may be attributed to being with family/boyfriends etc.  And also tending to their side hustle from their Whatsapp contacts.  Like the clients flying into SDQ or STI.  Once done with them, they can hustle on up to Sosua.   

Your reporting is always appreciated. 💯

I’ve spoken to a number of chicas that have told me that they dislike Kings; it’s vibe, the type of clientele that tend to frequent the place at busier times (the loud and rowdy type) etc.

I believe that’s why a fair amount of chicas don’t want to come inside and post up these days. It also doesn’t help that Kings isn’t exactly a classy looking place. Like someone once said, the spot looks like a South Bronx bingo hall, lol. I don’t like it either. I’m usually in and out of there in short order.
I liked Rumba when it looked much cozier inside.  More subdued lighting.  Kings seems too bright, and open. 

When I hear reports of chicks complaints of a place,  I think it has more to do with their success rate ( or lack of ) in scoring clients.   When I compare my recollection of Rumbas around 2012 on, before Rey took over.  Many chicks got clients very easily up in Rumbas.   In fact you might recall seeing some cats sit by the rest room so they can see the chicks going in and coming out.   

A dude could see them in the rest room from a distance, combing their real hair.  Taking the Tubi off.   Then coming out the rest room looking more stunning than when they entered.   Guys catching chicks right at the rest room is how some chicks got hired. 

I do not believe these days, there is a large volume of guys snatching up chicks like THAT,  in Kings.  Mainly because many of those chicks have shot themselves in the foot.   The old Rumbas, discussing price and time, was a formality, just to confirm they both were in the same ballpark.   But today discussing price is a necessity.   

What many of those chicks are asking is TLN prices for ST service.  So, what has happened IMO, a lot of guys love looking at the chicas, but the hiring rate has slowed down so much, that the chicas trying to post up inside of Kings , have taken notice.  Many guys are being more cautious in hiring chicks,  knowing what to expect.   That means more chicks sitting around for long periods of time.  Not working, but guys flirting and taking numbers.   That IMO is why a lot chicks claim they dont like Kings.

It's like the group of chicks that go out to a disco/club.  The chicks that get to dance and have drinks bought for them,  they love the place.   The chicks that got no attention or the wrong attention from guys they didnt like, and no drinks, hated the place.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on March 01, 2023, 12:39:09 PM
@Murano, 
Yes sir…Indeed.!!!

Rumbas/Kings was best when they had the high tables and chairs and the guys and girls sat side by side, back to back..

The place was small and cozy and you had to say excuse me or pardon me to move around.

When you entered all eyes where on you, girls smiled and grabbed at your arm or whatever else they could get hold of to get your attention.

Now it’s to spread out, to loud with both TV’s and music going at the same time.. The place now is just to big.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 01, 2023, 02:38:02 PM
Yes to  loud ! as far as the chicas maby more guys know the standard prices and are not going to fall for the 100-150 usd price, or there not seasoned mongers  but are not going to be thirsty jumping at chicas, also lousy attitudes rotten aproaches by chicas ,   it was better in the old days with no whatz app  !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on March 01, 2023, 03:39:29 PM
Yes to  loud ! as far as the chicas maby more guys know the standard prices and are not going to fall for the 100-150 usd price, or there not seasoned mongers  but are not going to be thirsty jumping at chicas, also lousy attitudes rotten aproaches by chicas ,   it was better in the old days with no whatz app  !
Agree totally, the place is loud, zero atmosphere, loud music and TVs at the same time and people talking over all of that. Like Poontang said,feels like a bingo hall.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on March 02, 2023, 03:23:46 AM
My take on Livegate is They could just be some random dustheads but I have a hard time beleiving that Flip could just go whip their asses and that would be the end of it.

The one dude sounded like a New Yorker himself so he's probably a criminal deportee same as 3rd Mundo at the very least Jail means a short time in the bing. If Flip goes to jail it will be a short time in the Bing as well but with no connections and no one to run his business while he's locked and he'd be deported back to the States.

For that reason alone it wouldn't be worth it to engage in fisticuffs unless directly attacked.

That's the wierdest thing about Greg the fake Tough guy act.  I remember when he was going back and forth with Mayor of Sosua and in one video he had some dudes (from the states) around insinuating they would smack Mayor If Flip pressed a button.

Mayor is just a rando expat and the closest to getting slapped was with Jendry and even that was a sassfest argument that didn't actually lead to hands being applied. Other than appearing Tough and like he showed them, I don't see how this is a good look for Greg again anyone could walk up on him at anytime, At end of the day the Dominicans really didn't seem to want problems because if they did they could fought him right there.

Other than the I'm from 40's and Baliey's and Pappy Mason is my Pop's . I can't see how or why anyone should be impressed.  Besides f--k it if he is affilliated any Queens Mobs then just say it instead of  constantly alluding to it. Even if he was down with 7 crowns Lance Feurtado is an old ass Man, I really doubt that Dominican dudes would move on his say so.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on March 02, 2023, 03:32:55 AM
Tuesday February 28th,  2023

Was out and about on the strip early evening.  Something I said years ago still is applicable today.  You cant accurately judge the status or vibe of Sosua by one day, one week or one month.  Or one vacation from the previous vacation.  One day can be different from the next.  One vacation can be different from the next or the previous vacation.

So every time when guys ( especially myself ) try to make judgements and assessments about the status of Sosua, especially it's visitors,  they/we need to take into consideration that that report is only good for that moment.  That report or observation does not or will not necessarily be valid for another day, week or vacation.

The other day I saw chicas on foot patrol.  Hardly any activity by Bar Central, The German restaurant.  Much of the foot traffic was closer to Kings and Chez Montreal.  Hardly any chicas inside Kings on that day/night.  And not many chicks by Chez Montreal

Fast forward to last night, and this time I see a good amount of Haitian chicas posted up by Bar Central, the German restaurant, and several a few feet away just to the right of The German restaurant.   Yesterday was one of the best warm weather days weve had.  So Im assuming the beach had a few chicas strolling the beach or even sitting still at tables in the open area.

Yesterday, I must have seen a dozen different groups of guys walking together on the strip.  All seemed to be newer guys to me.   Also, you can see the increased presence of new expats.  Including guys who probably felt it was a good idea to live away from Sosua.  Like in PP, or Cabarete, but every time you look, you see them in Sosua because they dont have much going on where they chose to live. 

Sosua lights still seems very slow.   Very few Haitian chicas pile up in there looking for work.  Most seem to want to be on the strip where more action and exposure is.  Standing on the sidewalk looking like a prostitute,  they can score a client.  Sitting at a table inside of Sosua Lights waiting to score a client makes them look like they have some class.   Cant have that can we?   That takes too much time.   Guy wants to talk and buy drinks.  Many of these chicks aint got time for all of that.  Not even enough of these Haitian chicks.

The Dominican chicks we see on foot patrol.  Many of them seem to have the same MO.  Many of them dont have the patience to come inside of Kings to sit their asses down, and appear as if they have some class.  The chicks that do operate like that,  we have to slowly wait for them to return to work.   

Those are the ones that may make the effort of dressing up a little bit.  Wearing heels.  Their absence may be attributed to being with family/boyfriends etc.  And also tending to their side hustle from their Whatsapp contacts.  Like the clients flying into SDQ or STI.  Once done with them, they can hustle on up to Sosua. 

But dont be fooled gents.  That doesnt mean any of them chicks have class or are worth more than the chicks on foot patrol.  All they are doing is trying to look a certain way to fake guys out into thinking they should be paying more for the fancy package.  Stuff that easily impresses a lot of guys.  Especially many of the guys Im seeing walking around Sosua, with a DR or Haitian hustler(s) in tow. 

Still seeing dudes coming here wearing flashy jewelry and watches.  Trying to pay for shit with US cash instead of pesos.   A new set of guys that will need to learn some lessons on how to roll in this environment.  The hustlers, chicas and locals that live off of foreigners,  are in heaven.

Fresh Meat is not necessarily a bad thing. They pay for the improvements and contribute to the local economy. I've Met Colombianas in Sosua There's casas staffed with Colombianas in SD. The draw for Dominicans, Haitians, Vennies Colombians and Cubans is the classic Dumb ass Dub Dubs.

It's the whole reason why that sleeply little beach town is so special.  There's a reason why you're in Sosua and not say Miches both are beach towns but one has way more nicer restaurantes and way more bitches than the other. Like you said about the superbowl let fresh "mangoes" get sucked in the game by wild stories of their amigas who claimed they made 500 USD for a 3 minute handjob. When they find out that wasn't true you could f--k her 6 ways to sunday for 35 bucks.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on March 02, 2023, 03:47:54 AM
The crazy price quotes and the rise of online shopping leads to analysis paralysis. Dudes are in full Kid in a Candystore mode. They'd sportsf--k or lay up with one or two chicas If prices were more regulated. But inviting a random unvetted chica to you Villa is bad news so dudes spend way more time watching and collecting numbers than actually f--king.

Guys are taking pictures and getting the Ho Fax before they even engage, not to mention dudes furiously swiping on Tinder.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on March 02, 2023, 05:30:30 AM

you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

I kinda get where you are coming from. They were too close for comfort.

The prolem is.....Dominicans can pretty much talk big shit all they want to gringos. Even if Flip two-pieced both of them and put their lights out...guess who's going to jail, paying a shit ton of money, and potentially losing his job?

In fact, I would have told them YOU KNOW IF I KNOCK THIS BIG CLOWN OUT THEN BODY SLAM YOUR LITTLE ASS...I GOTTA GO TO JAIL.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on March 02, 2023, 06:09:44 AM
My take on Livegate is They could just be some random dustheads but I have a hard time beleiving that Flip could just go whip their asses and that would be the end of it.

The one dude sounded like a New Yorker himself so he's probably a criminal deportee same as 3rd Mundo at the very least Jail means a short time in the bing. If Flip goes to jail it will be a short time in the Bing as well but with no connections and no one to run his business while he's locked and he'd be deported back to the States.

For that reason alone it wouldn't be worth it to engage in fisticuffs unless directly attacked.

That's the wierdest thing about Greg the fake Tough guy act.  I remember when he was going back and forth with Mayor of Sosua and in one video he had some dudes (from the states) around insinuating they would smack Mayor If Flip pressed a button.

Mayor is just a rando expat and the closest to getting slapped was with Jendry and even that was a sassfest argument that didn't actually lead to hands being applied. Other than appearing Tough and like he showed them, I don't see how this is a good look for Greg again anyone could walk up on him at anytime, At end of the day the Dominicans really didn't seem to want problems because if they did they could fought him right there.

Other than the I'm from 40's and Baliey's and Pappy Mason is my Pop's . I can't see how or why anyone should be impressed.  Besides f--k it if he is affilliated any Queens Mobs then just say it instead of  constantly alluding to it. Even if he was down with 7 crowns Lance Feurtado is an old ass Man, I really doubt that Dominican dudes would move on his say so.

Man....Flip is a pathological LIAR. This dude says he was a star athlete with scholarship offers and at the same time a drug dealer and a rapper. He lies so much that it gets uncomfortable being around him and listening to that nonsense.

Flip hasn't been on USA soil in YEARS. That means he has ALREADY been deported out of the USA, or he can't go back because of child support or taxes.

Mayor has mental issues, but he's tolerable. I ran into him in Copa one late night. He had beef with some local young drug dealers/gun runners, regarding his gambling practices one night at the casino.

I give it to Mayor, he didn't punk out. He did get thrown out of Copa. The young dude PAID for Mayor's beer as a show of power to get him thrown out.

The young dude spoke good English, and after Mayor left he said this to me:

I remember you from when I was a kid. You are a good guy. But he better watch his back. I got guns (flashed the butt of it on his waist) and drugs on the street, I can really do something bad to him.

He was with 3 or 4 other dudes. I told him 'thanks' and 'take care of yourself', gave him a bro hand shake and left.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on March 02, 2023, 06:25:35 AM

you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

I kinda get where you are coming from. They were too close for comfort.

The prolem is.....Dominicans can pretty much talk big shit all they want to gringos. Even if Flip two-pieced both of them and put their lights out...guess who's going to jail, paying a shit ton of money, and potentially losing his job?

In fact, I would have told them YOU KNOW IF I KNOCK THIS BIG CLOWN OUT THEN BODY SLAM YOUR LITTLE ASS...I GOTTA GO TO JAIL.

The jail thing goes out the window the minute he picked up that bat and hammer and went (supposedly) looking for them.

If he’s going to brandish weapons later, he may as well kicked there ass right then and there.

So let’s be honest here.. He was worried about jail and the restaurant when they approached him, but not worried about jail and the restaurant when he grabbed the bat and hammer..

Please help me make sense of that because I can’t figure it out on my own.🤔🤔
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 02, 2023, 08:35:04 AM
Like ive said before, Sosua at Times is a freak show.with Drama ,You know how things work! here today gone tommoro, Get the pop corn and cotton candy !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 02, 2023, 08:40:45 AM

One thing I learned a while ago from Mario Chessa (who owned Hotel Villa Chessa before he died) is to have a great 'relationship' with police - the higher ranking the better.
After some shit like this....I would definitely call my police friends for advice.
I also learned there are pros and cons to having a "relationship" with the police.  My recollection of Mario was that although he had the police as backup, or he was left alone, that relationship came with a no turning back cost factor.  Mario also used his police friends and clout to help other guys who had law enforcement problems, chica problems or other problems.   

Thing is, it's hard for me to depict the DR police as real friends, or having a great relationship with them.   Their connection to Mario was IMO based on neither of those concepts.   Their connection was more of an understanding.  We can afford you some benefits, but you have to compensate us.  Not sure who initiated the relationship?  Sometimes business owners initiate getting involved with the police.  Start paying them or giving them treats before being approached.  And then the compensation relationship builds from there. 

Other times, it's the police that drop the hints, to get the compensation ball rolling. "Here, here's my number.  If you have any problems just call me".    Once you start calling,  now you are in bed with the police.  And the wants and needs of police escalate from there.   

The problem Im speaking of,  is that once you get in bed with the police,  there aint no turning it off.  Once in, and they consider you a rich gringo, you cant be cheap.  The cops perks may escalate from a few bucks here and there, or a few meals here and there at Villa Chessa to being quite extensive. 

The more things they do for you, and the higher the severity of the situation they handle for you, the more one may be expected to pay in compensation to those looking out for THEIR cash cow.   True one can think of it as just having paid security.   But regular security usually has a fixed salary, including maybe medical.
You can sever ties with your security by following the rules.  Terminate without consequences. 

When dealing with cops, or even other entities, like the mayor? :   

One can be expected to kick out hundreds , maybe even thousands of dollars a year to satisfy the people who supposedly have this great "relationship" with them.   Once in bed with the cops, they arent just protecting the business owner, they are protecting their income stream. 

Just like some man/woman relationships.  The relationship is only good for some women, when the women feel appropriately compensated.  Stop paying for the relationship with the cops, and see how easily they can turn on their benefactor.   Just like an employee strike. 

David from the 2413 Sports Bar was approached to pay a certain % in order to be able to operate his Sports Complex.  And Im not talking about police brass.   Although Im sure they also were in the mix when David was trying to open when the lockdowns were being lifted.   

At the time he refused the extortion.  But paid a price for not playing ball.   So it's not always a good idea for a business to consider the police their friends, or supposedly having a great relationship with them, if the main thing bonding them is you have to pay them.   And if you change up or dont compensate, they then may become retaliatory.         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 02, 2023, 09:04:10 AM
I adopted the strategy ( Im not assuming it's fool proof ) that I will offer compensation to certain cops, where we have an understanding that compensation will be offered when services or assistance has been provided.  Not the way Ive seen, where one doesnt know what to expect.  I want to control when and what the compensation is, not the people offering their services.   

For instance, getting a request to bring back a laptop or a new iPhone.  Expecting me to pay for it too, but them not reimbursing me.   2ndly, how do I know when or if Im ever caught up with paying them, if they keep expecting me to wet their beaks?   What happens the time I need them, and they're not available?  Or dont answer because I didnt buy the Iphone or Laptop they requested. 

IMO payment for services rendered is a better policy.  Just like how we compensate chicas.  Notice how when we pay chicas up front,expecting to get compensated later, you end up paying more.  Because they dont remember or care about the shit you did for them before.  They still think you owe them, even though you paid them already.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on March 02, 2023, 09:29:26 AM
Just here for a few days, weekend warrior style. Talking about Rumba, I cant even go in there it makes me so uncomfortable. I have said before, maybe they have been told they can not have high tables because it is a "restaurant". But the atmosphere sucks, just a giant room with bright lights, banquet tables and plastic chairs.

I don't know why no girls go in Merengue, the owners must have been told not to let them in.

City lights probably has the best potential right now but... The door is searching bags for all the chicas going in, a pretty girl last night, clearly off work from a hotel in a work uniform and the guy turned her away. So barely anyone inside.

So whats left, the sidewalk... How are you supposed to stop and speak to a chica when the beggars, trannies, moto's and really ran through old gals are all in the mix trying to get you attention.

This place... It's getting kind of depressing here.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: HitandRun on March 02, 2023, 10:00:49 AM
with flip flop I am just being real.
we all know he thinks sosua strip is his.
he even said on video don't have a Halloween party while he has his.
but he has constantly say people are hating on him.
he still saying that after over 3 years on youtube.
who is he talking about?
is he rich?
does he live in house?
etc
who is hating?
but he has always said pull up if you got someone to say.
well dudes pulled up.
so after he has to keep that persona up.
on youtube, I am going to go f--k them up.
you all figure it out!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 02, 2023, 10:02:34 AM
HAVING ESTABLISHED REGULARS, can solve that problem.  Finding alternative venues, one doesnt frequent or knows exist.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on March 02, 2023, 10:19:54 AM
HAVING ESTABLISHED REGULARS, can solve that problem.  Finding alternative venues, one doesnt frequent or knows exist.

Yes but with the regulars, familiarity breeds contempt, on both sides. I do need to update the roster, trying to, but I am weak as water and always answer the request for a visit when I am here.

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on March 02, 2023, 12:56:59 PM
My take on Livegate is They could just be some random dustheads but I have a hard time beleiving that Flip could just go whip their asses and that would be the end of it.

The one dude sounded like a New Yorker himself so he's probably a criminal deportee same as 3rd Mundo at the very least Jail means a short time in the bing. If Flip goes to jail it will be a short time in the Bing as well but with no connections and no one to run his business while he's locked and he'd be deported back to the States.

For that reason alone it wouldn't be worth it to engage in fisticuffs unless directly attacked.

That's the wierdest thing about Greg the fake Tough guy act.  I remember when he was going back and forth with Mayor of Sosua and in one video he had some dudes (from the states) around insinuating they would smack Mayor If Flip pressed a button.

Mayor is just a rando expat and the closest to getting slapped was with Jendry and even that was a sassfest argument that didn't actually lead to hands being applied. Other than appearing Tough and like he showed them, I don't see how this is a good look for Greg again anyone could walk up on him at anytime, At end of the day the Dominicans really didn't seem to want problems because if they did they could fought him right there.

Other than the I'm from 40's and Baliey's and Pappy Mason is my Pop's . I can't see how or why anyone should be impressed.  Besides f--k it if he is affilliated any Queens Mobs then just say it instead of  constantly alluding to it. Even if he was down with 7 crowns Lance Feurtado is an old ass Man, I really doubt that Dominican dudes would move on his say so.

Man....Flip is a pathological LIAR. This dude says he was a star athlete with scholarship offers and at the same time a drug dealer and a rapper. He lies so much that it gets uncomfortable being around him and listening to that nonsense.

Flip hasn't been on USA soil in YEARS. That means he has ALREADY been deported out of the USA, or he can't go back because of child support or taxes.

Mayor has mental issues, but he's tolerable. I ran into him in Copa one late night. He had beef with some local young drug dealers/gun runners, regarding his gambling practices one night at the casino.

I give it to Mayor, he didn't punk out. He did get thrown out of Copa. The young dude PAID for Mayor's beer as a show of power to get him thrown out.

The young dude spoke good English, and after Mayor left he said this to me:

I remember you from when I was a kid. You are a good guy. But he better watch his back. I got guns (flashed the butt of it on his waist) and drugs on the street, I can really do something bad to him.

He was with 3 or 4 other dudes. I told him 'thanks' and 'take care of yourself', gave him a bro hand shake and left.

I met Flip and Mayor and both of them seemed cool and some of this is Youtube postering.

But why are you getting into it with locals? Why are getting kicked out of spots like some low bottom PC Rat?

This youtube shit goes to all of their heads They all really think they are that guy. Forgetting that we are all guests and subject to be kicked out at a moment's notice.

A friend of a friend was deported back to the States while flying from Cali to Medellin while his visa was getting sorted out. Overstaying a day makes you liable to be deported yet dudes want to have problems with people?

I remember I was in Club Mixxer in SD and some goofy that we were with talked to a girl at a table her dude came back to the table words was exchanged and homie was about to get stomped out. 

Luckly a bouncer knew my Mans who was with us and the goofy and got it sqaushed with the suggestion that we dip expeditiously The goofball didn't understand why we were leaving.

It was impossible to explain that the DR is a major transhipment point for Cocaine and usually Papi the connect in New York is usually a Dominican dude.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on March 02, 2023, 01:05:25 PM
I adopted the strategy ( Im not assuming it's fool proof ) that I will offer compensation to certain cops, where we have an understanding that compensation will be offered when services or assistance has been provided.  Not the way Ive seen, where one doesnt know what to expect.  I want to control when and what the compensation is, not the people offering their services.   

For instance, getting a request to bring back a laptop or a new iPhone.  Expecting me to pay for it too, but them not reimbursing me.   2ndly, how do I know when or if Im ever caught up with paying them, if they keep expecting me to wet their beaks?   What happens the time I need them, and they're not available?  Or dont answer because I didnt buy the Iphone or Laptop they requested. 

IMO payment for services rendered is a better policy.  Just like how we compensate chicas.  Notice how when we pay chicas up front,expecting to get compensated later, you end up paying more.  Because they dont remember or care about the shit you did for them before.  They still think you owe them, even though you paid them already.

That's why I would be extremely reluctant to open a brick and mortar business anywhere in the 3rd world.

But if the cops came around Cops paying for meals and drinks is optional but If asked for a bribe unless they demanded a piece of the business in which case I'd strongly consider cutting them in I'd say I'm completely legitimate if you see me committing a crime arrest me... or not If you do me a favor I will compensate you

So yeah pay as you go just like these hoes.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 02, 2023, 01:28:23 PM
HAVING ESTABLISHED REGULARS, can solve that problem.  Finding alternative venues, one doesnt frequent or knows exist.

Yes but with the regulars, familiarity breeds contempt, on both sides. I do need to update the roster, trying to, but I am weak as water and always answer the request for a visit when I am here.
At least with repeats you know what your going to get, once there with you then you rember they can be pain in the ass for various reasons , a few new ones to the roster is good !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Ted68 on March 03, 2023, 12:31:02 AM
The white guy that jumped out of the way is the owner of Casa de Compai in Sosua.  He is an American expat that has been living in Sosua for quite some time
He knows when a potential confrontation is about to go down and knows better than to be in the middle of it. 
Lot's of those guys carry guns and don't have a problem using them

Go back and listen to the confrontation part of the video and slow the speed down to .75% or .50% and it will be more understandable

I think they are talking about a confrontation that happened at the bar the night before.  It wasn't a road rage incident.

That guy in the hat that was part of the confrontation looks very familiar and I know I have seen him out and about in Sosua
He either is a taxi driver a hustler type or works at Kings.  Possible he could have been a patron as well that night.


Greg/Flip saying things about physical threats of violence more than once on a live video feed was a very foolish thing to do.

One very important thing that needs to be understood about places like Sosua is they do not place very much value on life and it doesn't take a whole lot for a local to "take care of things" when they feel disrespected.   Especially when it is a gringo.   Greg should know better.
The guy wearing the cap used to either manage or own a barbershop further down the strip past Cafe Cubano about 4-5 years ago. My 2nd trip me and my homeboy stopped in for a haircut and we chopped it up a bit.  He mentioned that he lived in the states a while back. Offered to be our tour guide but we politely declined lol.  Looks like the barbershop has since closed (a white building with big columns) and recently I've seen him working a couple of spots on the beach and out and about in town.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on March 03, 2023, 05:02:49 PM
HAVING ESTABLISHED REGULARS, can solve that problem.  Finding alternative venues, one doesnt frequent or knows exist.

Yes but with the regulars, familiarity breeds contempt, on both sides. I do need to update the roster, trying to, but I am weak as water and always answer the request for a visit when I am here.
At least with repeats you know what your going to get, once there with you then you rember they can be pain in the ass for various reasons , a few new ones to the roster is good !
Yes agreed, I try to insert a new one in rotation every trip and drop the biggest pain in the ass, don't block her, but never call her. After a while they are sweet as pie again.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bigpop1969 on March 04, 2023, 07:07:36 PM
I have seen the video and Flip Flop did not do a damn thing. The smaller Dominican guy told Flip Flop that he did not give a "f--k" that he was on live. The smaller guys told Flip Flop he was about that life bitch. The Dominican with the cap pushed Flip Flop's hand away once and even touched him twice in the chest. By the way, Flip Flop had the hammer on the table at the moment according to the video. The timing was perfect if he was ready for the major league. This is not the first time he had an altercation in the DR.

He went after the Mayor of Sosua and requested 100 hundred dollars on the behalf of the New York guys. Apparently, the Mayor was running his mouth as usual about New York guys and their sexuality. Flip Flop told him that a few of the guys were upset about his language toward guys from New York. First of all, you cannot get any props for challenging the mayor. Again, this is who Flip Flop is as a person.

He made a video about Miko Worldwide and claimed he knew things about the rumors concerning Miko. Straight up lie. First, I am not a fan of anyone who engages inappropriate conduct with any minors. If this was true as he claimed, He should have reported it as a father and a man. However, he failed to mention the Cuban Dave of the world. Why? Because he is selective in the people he confronts. Real gangster does not pick and choose his opponents. They take on all comers.

He went after Dean Cole because he bought a business in Puerto Plata that Flip Flop claimed to want. I guess he could not afford it or did not have funds. I saw the video about Dean Cole in its entirety and apparently Flip Flop could not handle his alcohol. He was drunk making threats and talking about what he had and done previously in his life. In my world, we call them "has been". Dean Cole made a response to the video and called him out. To my knowledge, this was the end of that. This Flip Flop dude is a jealous individual while he is counting shrimps, others are enjoying the fruits of their labor. He even went after Cerise and how she took his cook. Again, you do not get any props for going after Cerise and a woman. Flip Flop is an egotist and want to be something that he is not.

He may be from New York, and this is about it. I lived in Brooklyn before and most of the people in New York do not own a brick on the block. They live like sardines. Isn't it sad to claim and even fight and kill for something that does not belong to you. These are New Yorkers and most Negroes from the larger cities. Black on Black crime is their motive. Flip Flop is no exception. He was a rapper, a star athlete with scholarships, and a gang banger. I guess he learned a few rap songs, failed as an athlete, and after the incident with the Dominicans, it seems to me he has not even burst a grape. Sadly, why would anyone over 40 years old brag about being a gang banger when most of you just hurt and killed people who look like you over the terp that belongs to the other man. Stupidity 101.

It is difficult for me to understand why so many grown ass men kiss his ass. It speaks a lot about them as well. He claimed to have investigated others. Ask Flip Flop to land in the United States and we will know the real story. He is a fraud and an apostle. And those Dominicans men proved to me after I watched the video that he can definitely talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. Now, he will want to go after anyone for telling the truth about him. It is not where you are from that makes the MAN, but how far are you willing to go to defend yours.

I will not promote causing problems especially with the locals in another country. Of course, no one asks Flip Flop for his gangster talk and LIES. He is a narcissist working as a manager counting shrimps. I guess this was his goal as a child while playing in the sandbox. One day when I grow up, I want to manage a restaurant in the Dominican Republic and count shrimps. I guess he has arrived. Again, Flip Flop is jealous of other successes. For all of you who are kissing his ass, come up for air. LOL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 05, 2023, 08:20:48 AM
I have seen the video and Flip Flop did not do a damn thing. The smaller Dominican guy told Flip Flop that he did not give a "f--k" that he was on live. The smaller guys told Flip Flop he was about that life bitch. The Dominican with the cap pushed Flip Flop's hand away once and even touched him twice in the chest. By the way, Flip Flop had the hammer on the table at the moment according to the video. The timing was perfect if he was ready for the major league. This is not the first time he had an altercation in the DR.

He went after the Mayor of Sosua and requested 100 hundred dollars on the behalf of the New York guys. Apparently, the Mayor was running his mouth as usual about New York guys and their sexuality. Flip Flop told him that a few of the guys were upset about his language toward guys from New York. First of all, you cannot get any props for challenging the mayor. Again, this is who Flip Flop is as a person.

He made a video about Miko Worldwide and claimed he knew things about the rumors concerning Miko. Straight up lie. First, I am not a fan of anyone who engages inappropriate conduct with any minors. If this was true as he claimed, He should have reported it as a father and a man. However, he failed to mention the Cuban Dave of the world. Why? Because he is selective in the people he confronts. Real gangster does not pick and choose his opponents. They take on all comers.

He went after Dean Cole because he bought a business in Puerto Plata that Flip Flop claimed to want. I guess he could not afford it or did not have funds. I saw the video about Dean Cole in its entirety and apparently Flip Flop could not handle his alcohol. He was drunk making threats and talking about what he had and done previously in his life. In my world, we call them "has been". Dean Cole made a response to the video and called him out. To my knowledge, this was the end of that. This Flip Flop dude is a jealous individual while he is counting shrimps, others are enjoying the fruits of their labor. He even went after Cerise and how she took his cook. Again, you do not get any props for going after Cerise and a woman. Flip Flop is an egotist and want to be something that he is not.

He may be from New York, and this is about it. I lived in Brooklyn before and most of the people in New York do not own a brick on the block. They live like sardines. Isn't it sad to claim and even fight and kill for something that does not belong to you. These are New Yorkers and most Negroes from the larger cities. Black on Black crime is their motive. Flip Flop is no exception. He was a rapper, a star athlete with scholarships, and a gang banger. I guess he learned a few rap songs, failed as an athlete, and after the incident with the Dominicans, it seems to me he has not even burst a grape. Sadly, why would anyone over 40 years old brag about being a gang banger when most of you just hurt and killed people who look like you over the terp that belongs to the other man. Stupidity 101.

It is difficult for me to understand why so many grown ass men kiss his ass. It speaks a lot about them as well. He claimed to have investigated others. Ask Flip Flop to land in the United States and we will know the real story. He is a fraud and an apostle. And those Dominicans men proved to me after I watched the video that he can definitely talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. Now, he will want to go after anyone for telling the truth about him. It is not where you are from that makes the MAN, but how far are you willing to go to defend yours.

I will not promote causing problems especially with the locals in another country. Of course, no one asks Flip Flop for his gangster talk and LIES. He is a narcissist working as a manager counting shrimps. I guess this was his goal as a child while playing in the sandbox. One day when I grow up, I want to manage a restaurant in the Dominican Republic and count shrimps. I guess he has arrived. Again, Flip Flop is jealous of other successes. For all of you who are kissing his ass, come up for air. LOL
Powerful perspective.   Aside from that, how do you feel about the food, and the customer service at Mr Flip Flop?   Last time I was there to meet up with somebody, he was obviously intoxicated hooping and hollering over the game.  While there, I was minding my business, having a meal with a friend.  I can see that he was off.   

On the other hand, I was impressed by the wait staff girls. 

Apparently they were trained to come check on the customers regularly to see if they needed anything.   Even in his inebriation, he was watching the game and watching the girls.   His behavior when drunk is way off for someone there running a business. Not a good look at all.  You can see that his employees just deal with it.    He looked odd trying to supervise what his staff was doing, and being hyped over the game. 

So the day he did that live, and the Dominicans showed up.  He was not in the state of mind of someone prepared to use sound judgement.   And thats probably why the Dominican dude could be up on him like that putting his hands on him.   You cant fault him for not doing anything,  because he wasnt sober.  People who are intoxicated try to act like they got their faculties, but they usually dont. 

That wasnt Flip Flop the Dominicans were dealing with, that was Flip Flops super hyped egotistical representative.   The representative that may get business man Flip Flop in serious trouble.   The sad thing though,  he may very well need some professional help.   He said he deals with depression.  That could also mean that he is dealing with some bi polar issues.  And the alcohol may augment his sensitivities, resulting in hyped behavior. 

To tell you the truth, anybody running into somebody like that better watch their own back.  Anything can trigger a short circuit.   This kinda reminds me of the times I encountered very attractive women in the states that were single and available.   You wondered why is this nice looking chick available?   After dealing with them, you soon find out you are dealing with an individual that has some issues.   And if they got high or intoxicated, those issues may be amplified. 

That being said.  Calling out someone who appears to have personal issues to work on is like picking on Joe Biden for his incoherent representation during speeches and press conferences.  We know there is a problem, even if everybody pretend like they dont see it.    The white guy that was being interviewed during the live knew there was a problem.  He knew that no matter what he said, FF was not in his right mind for listening.   And unfortunately, that may also apply if Flip was sober. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 05, 2023, 09:46:03 AM
So do you think Flips needs  a Phychiatrist ,?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 05, 2023, 10:57:53 AM
So do you think Flips needs  a Phychiatrist ,?
No, I feel he needs a holistic natural health practitioner.   Someone that can help him to cope and heal, starting with proper diet and nutrition.  That means right off the bat, no drinking and no smoking.   Next is for the practitioner to do a complete assessment of his diet and lifestyle.  His sleep/wake patterns.

Determine if any medications prescribed, including those the CDC recommended, arent affecting his behavior/depression, and overall health.   

I had a GF back when I was in my 20's that I used to think was bi polar.   Fast forward. She was hospitalized, and they found a tumor in her head.   After her surgeries and subsequent recovery, personality wise she became a whole different person.   

So in essence, if a person reveals they have depression,  they may have some sort of chemical imbalance, that needs to be addressed.  Not necessarily with drugs.  Drugs might make things worse.   Through counseling?  IDK   You saw the white guy guest try to get through to him, about needing to calm down, that it wasnt that serious that he needed to go after the guy.    He was not responding to that.   

Seeing that?  I would say a psychiatrist might not be what he needs initially.   That can come later.  1st and foremost is to address whatever may be causing certain behavior.  If a person is cool in a relaxed setting, but is easily triggered and put under stress, that person will not be in a position to be reasoned with.    Thats my unprofessional opinion. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nickmirr on March 05, 2023, 12:02:40 PM
@Murano,
Sir if I may add my 2 cent to the discussion?

Greg is really a good guy and the times I’ve needed him to deliver food from Flip Flop he was excellent with his service.

But I think deep down inside he’s unhappy with the direction he allowed his life to go (explains the heavy drinking).. So what did he do, he created this character (VPchill).. Now VP is this big bad guy from Queens.

VP holds it down in the VIP sections, walks around Sousa without a care, and everybody knows not to f--k with him.

Greg admires VP… Alcohol turns him into VP… VP makes him feel powerful.

The truth is Greg is mad with Greg… And the character he created VP is his way to escape from Greg…

That’s my thoughts on it… Greg has to get back to loving Greg and by who he truly is.. A great guy, who runs a great place that we like when in Sousa.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on March 05, 2023, 01:27:17 PM
@Murano,
Sir if I may add my 2 cent to the discussion?

Greg is really a good guy and the times I’ve needed him to deliver food from Flip Flop he was excellent with his service.

But I think deep down inside he’s unhappy with the direction he allowed his life to go (explains the heavy drinking).. So what did he do, he created this character (VPchill).. Now VP is this big bad guy from Queens.

VP holds it down in the VIP sections, walks around Sousa without a care, and everybody knows not to f--k with him.

Greg admires VP… Alcohol turns him into VP… VP makes him feel powerful.

The truth is Greg is mad with Greg… And the character he created VP is his way to escape from Greg…

That’s my thoughts on it… Greg has to get back to loving Greg and by who he truly is.. A great guy, who runs a great place that we like when in Sousa.
I copy loud and clear. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: HitandRun on March 05, 2023, 01:43:42 PM
he maybe unhappy that is true.
it is his business, but his life is a mystery and unusual.
to be living in a non English speaking country trying to unconventionally survive and make ends meet by running a little restaurant in a tourist area has to be stressful.
his persona is to have you believe that he is living the dream.
as said I am sure he is a good guy but he has a lot of dynamics to him.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 05, 2023, 04:00:24 PM
Well i thik he has a touch of Sosuaidous, the feeling after you have been there for a long time you get bored or worn down from the hustle, I know after a long time stay a month or more Sosua will wear on you,,, Greg will be ok  , Just have to calm down a bit !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on March 05, 2023, 07:11:58 PM
Well i thik he has a touch of Sosuaidous, the feeling after you have been there for a long time you get bored or worn down from the hustle, I know after a long time stay a month or more Sosua will wear on you,,, Greg will be ok  , Just have to calm down a bit !
"Susuaidous", that is a fitting term. I've stayed for as long as 4 months, and learned you have to dial it back allot to survive more than a week or two. It's no longer a "vacation", you live there. Act as if you were at home, but in a really nice place to do it. Sure I'm not hustling like Greg, but the fact remains, keeping it real helps you survive.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on March 07, 2023, 05:38:53 AM
Well i thik he has a touch of Sosuaidous, the feeling after you have been there for a long time you get bored or worn down from the hustle, I know after a long time stay a month or more Sosua will wear on you,,, Greg will be ok  , Just have to calm down a bit !
"Susuaidous", that is a fitting term. I've stayed for as long as 4 months, and learned you have to dial it back allot to survive more than a week or two. It's no longer a "vacation", you live there. Act as if you were at home, but in a really nice place to do it. Sure I'm not hustling like Greg, but the fact remains, keeping it real helps you survive.

Flip is "trapped in paradise". For whatever reason, he cannot go back to the states.

Imagine how you would feel sometimes if you can't go see your kids, can't see a loved one who's dying wish was to see you, can't visit life long friends. That depression impacts your whole life. There are times that he may be 'angry' about being in the Dominican Republic.

There is plenty of getting drunk and crying real tears of depression with these dudes. In Flip's case, he works hard and is able to visit other countries. But the bottom line is....how can he get back to NYC?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: HitandRun on March 07, 2023, 06:55:41 AM
Well i thik he has a touch of Sosuaidous, the feeling after you have been there for a long time you get bored or worn down from the hustle, I know after a long time stay a month or more Sosua will wear on you,,, Greg will be ok  , Just have to calm down a bit !
"Susuaidous", that is a fitting term. I've stayed for as long as 4 months, and learned you have to dial it back allot to survive more than a week or two. It's no longer a "vacation", you live there. Act as if you were at home, but in a really nice place to do it. Sure I'm not hustling like Greg, but the fact remains, keeping it real helps you survive.

Flip is "trapped in paradise". For whatever reason, he cannot go back to the states.

Imagine how you would feel sometimes if you can't go see your kids, can't see a loved one who's dying wish was to see you, can't visit life long friends. That depression impacts your whole life. There are times that he may be 'angry' about being in the Dominican Republic.

There is plenty of getting drunk and crying real tears of depression with these dudes. In Flip's case, he works hard and is able to visit other countries. But the bottom line is....how can he get back to NYC?
your points are on point.
it is a fascinating dynamic.
3.5 hours from Nyc.
it is imposible not to want to go home.
it is imposible not to go home unless you cannot.
the brother is trapped.
but is a mystery why he cannot return.
he goes to Brazil, Colombia, but not to the States.
I would be depressed out my mind.
so close but yet so far away.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on March 07, 2023, 10:40:43 AM
I have seen the video and Flip Flop did not do a damn thing. The smaller Dominican guy told Flip Flop that he did not give a "f--k" that he was on live. The smaller guys told Flip Flop he was about that life bitch. The Dominican with the cap pushed Flip Flop's hand away once and even touched him twice in the chest. By the way, Flip Flop had the hammer on the table at the moment according to the video. The timing was perfect if he was ready for the major league. This is not the first time he had an altercation in the DR.

He went after the Mayor of Sosua and requested 100 hundred dollars on the behalf of the New York guys. Apparently, the Mayor was running his mouth as usual about New York guys and their sexuality. Flip Flop told him that a few of the guys were upset about his language toward guys from New York. First of all, you cannot get any props for challenging the mayor. Again, this is who Flip Flop is as a person.

He made a video about Miko Worldwide and claimed he knew things about the rumors concerning Miko. Straight up lie. First, I am not a fan of anyone who engages inappropriate conduct with any minors. If this was true as he claimed, He should have reported it as a father and a man. However, he failed to mention the Cuban Dave of the world. Why? Because he is selective in the people he confronts. Real gangster does not pick and choose his opponents. They take on all comers.

He went after Dean Cole because he bought a business in Puerto Plata that Flip Flop claimed to want. I guess he could not afford it or did not have funds. I saw the video about Dean Cole in its entirety and apparently Flip Flop could not handle his alcohol. He was drunk making threats and talking about what he had and done previously in his life. In my world, we call them "has been". Dean Cole made a response to the video and called him out. To my knowledge, this was the end of that. This Flip Flop dude is a jealous individual while he is counting shrimps, others are enjoying the fruits of their labor. He even went after Cerise and how she took his cook. Again, you do not get any props for going after Cerise and a woman. Flip Flop is an egotist and want to be something that he is not.

He may be from New York, and this is about it. I lived in Brooklyn before and most of the people in New York do not own a brick on the block. They live like sardines. Isn't it sad to claim and even fight and kill for something that does not belong to you. These are New Yorkers and most Negroes from the larger cities. Black on Black crime is their motive. Flip Flop is no exception. He was a rapper, a star athlete with scholarships, and a gang banger. I guess he learned a few rap songs, failed as an athlete, and after the incident with the Dominicans, it seems to me he has not even burst a grape. Sadly, why would anyone over 40 years old brag about being a gang banger when most of you just hurt and killed people who look like you over the terp that belongs to the other man. Stupidity 101.

It is difficult for me to understand why so many grown ass men kiss his ass. It speaks a lot about them as well. He claimed to have investigated others. Ask Flip Flop to land in the United States and we will know the real story. He is a fraud and an apostle. And those Dominicans men proved to me after I watched the video that he can definitely talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. Now, he will want to go after anyone for telling the truth about him. It is not where you are from that makes the MAN, but how far are you willing to go to defend yours.

I will not promote causing problems especially with the locals in another country. Of course, no one asks Flip Flop for his gangster talk and LIES. He is a narcissist working as a manager counting shrimps. I guess this was his goal as a child while playing in the sandbox. One day when I grow up, I want to manage a restaurant in the Dominican Republic and count shrimps. I guess he has arrived. Again, Flip Flop is jealous of other successes. For all of you who are kissing his ass, come up for air. LOL
Like a turkey fanning  all its feather or a peacock nothing to see folks move along !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bigpop1969 on March 07, 2023, 12:53:28 PM
I have seen the video and Flip Flop did not do a damn thing. The smaller Dominican guy told Flip Flop that he did not give a "f--k" that he was on live. The smaller guys told Flip Flop he was about that life bitch. The Dominican with the cap pushed Flip Flop's hand away once and even touched him twice in the chest. By the way, Flip Flop had the hammer on the table at the moment according to the video. The timing was perfect if he was ready for the major league. This is not the first time he had an altercation in the DR.

He went after the Mayor of Sosua and requested 100 hundred dollars on the behalf of the New York guys. Apparently, the Mayor was running his mouth as usual about New York guys and their sexuality. Flip Flop told him that a few of the guys were upset about his language toward guys from New York. First of all, you cannot get any props for challenging the mayor. Again, this is who Flip Flop is as a person.

He made a video about Miko Worldwide and claimed he knew things about the rumors concerning Miko. Straight up lie. First, I am not a fan of anyone who engages inappropriate conduct with any minors. If this was true as he claimed, He should have reported it as a father and a man. However, he failed to mention the Cuban Dave of the world. Why? Because he is selective in the people he confronts. Real gangster does not pick and choose his opponents. They take on all comers.

He went after Dean Cole because he bought a business in Puerto Plata that Flip Flop claimed to want. I guess he could not afford it or did not have funds. I saw the video about Dean Cole in its entirety and apparently Flip Flop could not handle his alcohol. He was drunk making threats and talking about what he had and done previously in his life. In my world, we call them "has been". Dean Cole made a response to the video and called him out. To my knowledge, this was the end of that. This Flip Flop dude is a jealous individual while he is counting shrimps, others are enjoying the fruits of their labor. He even went after Cerise and how she took his cook. Again, you do not get any props for going after Cerise and a woman. Flip Flop is an egotist and want to be something that he is not.

He may be from New York, and this is about it. I lived in Brooklyn before and most of the people in New York do not own a brick on the block. They live like sardines. Isn't it sad to claim and even fight and kill for something that does not belong to you. These are New Yorkers and most Negroes from the larger cities. Black on Black crime is their motive. Flip Flop is no exception. He was a rapper, a star athlete with scholarships, and a gang banger. I guess he learned a few rap songs, failed as an athlete, and after the incident with the Dominicans, it seems to me he has not even burst a grape. Sadly, why would anyone over 40 years old brag about being a gang banger when most of you just hurt and killed people who look like you over the terp that belongs to the other man. Stupidity 101.

It is difficult for me to understand why so many grown ass men kiss his ass. It speaks a lot about them as well. He claimed to have investigated others. Ask Flip Flop to land in the United States and we will know the real story. He is a fraud and an apostle. And those Dominicans men proved to me after I watched the video that he can definitely talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. Now, he will want to go after anyone for telling the truth about him. It is not where you are from that makes the MAN, but how far are you willing to go to defend yours.

I will not promote causing problems especially with the locals in another country. Of course, no one asks Flip Flop for his gangster talk and LIES. He is a narcissist working as a manager counting shrimps. I guess this was his goal as a child while playing in the sandbox. One day when I grow up, I want to manage a restaurant in the Dominican Republic and count shrimps. I guess he has arrived. Again, Flip Flop is jealous of other successes. For all of you who are kissing his ass, come up for air. LOL
Like a turkey fanning  all its feather or a peacock nothing to see folks move along !
I have seen the video and Flip Flop did not do a damn thing. The smaller Dominican guy told Flip Flop that he did not give a "f--k" that he was on live. The smaller guys told Flip Flop he was about that life bitch. The Dominican with the cap pushed Flip Flop's hand away once and even touched him twice in the chest. By the way, Flip Flop had the hammer on the table at the moment according to the video. The timing was perfect if he was ready for the major league. This is not the first time he had an altercation in the DR.

He went after the Mayor of Sosua and requested 100 hundred dollars on the behalf of the New York guys. Apparently, the Mayor was running his mouth as usual about New York guys and their sexuality. Flip Flop told him that a few of the guys were upset about his language toward guys from New York. First of all, you cannot get any props for challenging the mayor. Again, this is who Flip Flop is as a person.

He made a video about Miko Worldwide and claimed he knew things about the rumors concerning Miko. Straight up lie. First, I am not a fan of anyone who engages inappropriate conduct with any minors. If this was true as he claimed, He should have reported it as a father and a man. However, he failed to mention the Cuban Dave of the world. Why? Because he is selective in the people he confronts. Real gangster does not pick and choose his opponents. They take on all comers.

He went after Dean Cole because he bought a business in Puerto Plata that Flip Flop claimed to want. I guess he could not afford it or did not have funds. I saw the video about Dean Cole in its entirety and apparently Flip Flop could not handle his alcohol. He was drunk making threats and talking about what he had and done previously in his life. In my world, we call them "has been". Dean Cole made a response to the video and called him out. To my knowledge, this was the end of that. This Flip Flop dude is a jealous individual while he is counting shrimps, others are enjoying the fruits of their labor. He even went after Cerise and how she took his cook. Again, you do not get any props for going after Cerise and a woman. Flip Flop is an egotist and want to be something that he is not.

He may be from New York, and this is about it. I lived in Brooklyn before and most of the people in New York do not own a brick on the block. They live like sardines. Isn't it sad to claim and even fight and kill for something that does not belong to you. These are New Yorkers and most Negroes from the larger cities. Black on Black crime is their motive. Flip Flop is no exception. He was a rapper, a star athlete with scholarships, and a gang banger. I guess he learned a few rap songs, failed as an athlete, and after the incident with the Dominicans, it seems to me he has not even burst a grape. Sadly, why would anyone over 40 years old brag about being a gang banger when most of you just hurt and killed people who look like you over the terp that belongs to the other man. Stupidity 101.

It is difficult for me to understand why so many grown ass men kiss his ass. It speaks a lot about them as well. He claimed to have investigated others. Ask Flip Flop to land in the United States and we will know the real story. He is a fraud and an apostle. And those Dominicans men proved to me after I watched the video that he can definitely talk the talk but cannot walk the walk. Now, he will want to go after anyone for telling the truth about him. It is not where you are from that makes the MAN, but how far are you willing to go to defend yours.

I will not promote causing problems especially with the locals in another country. Of course, no one asks Flip Flop for his gangster talk and LIES. He is a narcissist working as a manager counting shrimps. I guess this was his goal as a child while playing in the sandbox. One day when I grow up, I want to manage a restaurant in the Dominican Republic and count shrimps. I guess he has arrived. Again, Flip Flop is jealous of other successes. For all of you who are kissing his ass, come up for air. LOL
Like a turkey fanning  all its feather or a peacock nothing to see folks move along !
You are talking to the wrong man if this is for me. I do not take orders real well as I do not need anyone telling me what I should and should not do. Since you are in that business, take an English class as it is obvious not your primary language. I have not said anything I won't say again period. DONE
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 25, 2023, 05:39:28 PM
Thursday May 25th, 2023

Man it's great to be back home.  Been back for a few days. As soon as I got back I had to tend to some of the same problems, that can happen with this climate.   When you dont use your stuff here for a while,  sometimes you come back and shit will stop working.   The humidity here wrecks havoc on electronics, your clothes , your vehicles.   

Full cans of aerosol sprays rusted out and leaked it's contents, just from sitting underneath the kitchen sink.  My rear brakes on my pasola froze up, just from sitting.  This trip my clothes were spared from mold.   I keep my closets opened, and windows opened enough to keep the humidity to a minimum.   I removed all of the batteries to my remotes, and cables and cords that were inserted in my devices.   

I learned my lesson from a previous incident where the batteries would corrode/rust and destroy my remotes.   My clothes would get mold and mildewed from sitting in a closed closet.   That didnt happen this trip.  2 UPS backup boxes, were dead when I got back.  They were fine before I left.   Had to replace the batteries, and now their fine.

Anyway, went to the beach today.  Beautiful sunny warm day on the beach.  Plenty of newbie looking chicas on foot patrol.   2 sexy Haitian chicks passed by.   Both on a mission headed down where many of the white guys hang out.   But before they got that far,  they each had got attention from BM that wanted their number.   

Looked like the typical stop, put number in a guys phone and keep it moving.   Fine ass chicks but almost no personality.   Thats because exchanging numbers is so routine,  very often nobody take the other seriously.   And its quite possible these Haitian chicks are not really interested in the guys stopping them.   Especially since nobody is going above or beyond taking chicks numbers.   No offers to sit down.  No offers of a drink or food.    But down the beach path where they were headed, they will get hydrated and fed just by the way they look.   

It was nice just kicking it with the fellas.  3 of them were on vacation, and 3 of us live here.   Sosua is the best place for me for socializing with mature men.   That includes some white guys as well.   The ones that dont have a problem with brothers.    I have a bunch of brothers that come from Chi town.    They stay near Europa, but they sometimes go to Plan B for food or drink.   Most of the time,  were accepted up in Plan B.   But every now and then, there may be some asshole white dude, drunk and trying to cause trouble.
 
But me and my dudes are a class act.  All of them cats except me, are over 6 2, but wouldnt hurt a fly and totally ignored the drunk white guy fussing at us because of the music the staff was playing.   Music we didnt ask to be played.    Im like this, I dont care what color you are.   If you can be civil with me,  I can be civil with you.   If anything we were hoping he didnt do something crazy like attack any of us,  or throw something which might lead to us to mitigate his problem.   

Anyway,  it was a great day.   While cruising around town the last couple of days, I see some of the construction going on.   I see they are f--king up the highway again.   Instead of making the roads wider,  they are narrowing the road.  Now it may be more difficult to pass cars making turns.   Im assuming they are trying to make sidewalks?   

Stopped in the Playero.   I see some imported items is sky high.   I bought an electric kettle for 2700 pesos, and then see the exact same thing on Amazon for 1/2 the price.   Except it wasnt Black & Decker like the one in Playero.    I saw a quart of beverage that looked like egg nog.  It was almost 500 pesos???

Some prices for fruit at the market is crazy.   Today Flip Flop had a lady named Jay cooking some of her specialty dishes.   She used to cook out of her house in PP 2 yrs ago.   It was called Jays Juke Joint.   She would make a spread of food at her place, and then have people come by reservation.   Food and selection was good.   1,000 pesos would get you very well fed and hydrated.   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 25, 2023, 06:04:40 PM
You got Right ,items at Playjero Double US prices !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 25, 2023, 06:33:41 PM
Import prices way up, you have to buy local stuff if you can, Bavaro is worse than than North Coast for prices, even for domestic things.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 27, 2023, 03:57:42 PM
Friday, March 26th 2023

Was a great day!  1st started off at the beach.  Had lunch.   Same chicks on patrol, but I never get tired of chica watching.   2 weeks ago while in the states, I dined out with friends.   One was a Spanish restaurant we usually go to, and the other was at Tops restaurant in East Newark. 

Both places I consider the food to be kinda pricey.   Me and my buddy had lamb burgers.   $23 each for something that did not have any special flavor whatsoever.  To us , it tasted just like a beef burger.  His wife had some seafood platter.   Then the drinks.   After were done the bill is about $142 with the tip.   Too me, thats too much money to be spending on dining out.   

The total markup has nothing to do with the quality of the food, and all about paying for the ambiance of eating there.   Everytime I come back to the states, I think about what it must be like going on lunch or dinner dates with chicks.  Spending up to $200 for food, with someone who aint coming up with a dime towards the bill.    I couldnt do it.   Which leads me to this :

On the beach Thursday I had the fried red snapper with yellow rice, salad and veggies, a soft drink, and a grande beer for my buddy.  All of that, I paid 1600 pesos with tip.   $29.    Then yesterday my other buddy bought me lunch ( fried wings, with salad, yellow rice with garlic sauce ) and a soft drink which was 900 pesos.   $17.   

Im bringing this up because,  when Im living here full time,  the prices have surely risen in the last year dining in Sosua.   But when I compare it to what dining out costs in the states,  Sosua is a f--king bargain.

Maybe my sentiments is why guys come to the DR to over pay for pussy?   

Anyway, later last night a group of us got together and ate at the Mile High bar/restaurant on Pedro Clisante.  The food was cooked and prepared by Kerry at home, and brought to Mile High.  Kerry is the dude that had the Zanizibar restaurant/bar on the beach.   Then, Fat Jesses downstairs donated some fried fish and coleslaw to add to our party.  He was making a small investment, since all of us are customers of his anyway.    We had mac n cheese w/shrimp,  turkey sausage and cabbage, cornbread, the fried fish, the coleslaw.

The fellowshipping was great.  A select bunch of mature guys asked to meet up for dinner.   With all of us blessing the cook with some pesos for his effort.   The music was on point, because Fat Jesse has a dude that operates Karaoke downstairs.  So we were listening to the old school R&B he was playing before the karaoke got started.   

Truly a good night,  just for men.    I dont know anywhere else in my travels that I get this level of interaction with decent guys.   Most of us there were expats.  Some were relatively new expats with about 2yrs or less on the books.   Im sure the guys there that were on vacation, they enjoyed themselves too.   Getting together like that, could turn into a regular thing.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 27, 2023, 04:39:05 PM
Friday, March 26th 2023
 
Truly a good night,  just for men.    I dont know anywhere else in my travels that I get this level of interaction with decent guys.   Most of us there were expats.  Some were relatively new expats with about 2yrs or less on the books.   Im sure the guys there that were on vacation, they enjoyed themselves too.   Getting together like that, could turn into a regular thing.   

I had an old pal visit me recently. He easily dropped into the small group of men I have coffee with a couple of times a week and every Wednesday night for dinner. Sometimes you take your friends for granted. The visitor said he wished he had a group at home he could hang with on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 27, 2023, 05:03:45 PM
Friday, March 26th 2023
 
Truly a good night,  just for men.    I dont know anywhere else in my travels that I get this level of interaction with decent guys.   Most of us there were expats.  Some were relatively new expats with about 2yrs or less on the books.   Im sure the guys there that were on vacation, they enjoyed themselves too.   Getting together like that, could turn into a regular thing.   

I had an old pal visit me recently. He easily dropped into the small group of men I have coffee with a couple of times a week and every Wednesday night for dinner. Sometimes you take your friends for granted. The visitor said he wished he had a group at home he could hang with on a regular basis.
WORD!   Sometimes where were from, everybody is so busy.   Quality get togethers are becoming scarce.   That sometimes also goes for family back home.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on May 27, 2023, 08:37:43 PM
Friday, March 26th 2023

  Kerry is the dude that had the Zanizibar restaurant/bar on the beach. 

Hey I ran into him a few months back it couldn't been last year to be honest I lose track of time in treetown in Pattaya he told me he was moving to Pattaya did he change his mind.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 28, 2023, 08:03:18 AM
Friday, March 26th 2023

  Kerry is the dude that had the Zanizibar restaurant/bar on the beach. 

Hey I ran into him a few months back it couldn't been last year to be honest I lose track of time in treetown in Pattaya he told me he was moving to Pattaya did he change his mind.
Yes he changed his mind.  His 1st visit to TL and Pattaya according to him, he had a blast.  Everything was all new to him, and it was a major change from Sosua.  Sosua I think had worn him down from being bogged down trying to run a business so soon after starting to live in the DR. 

Plus he had never been anywhere in several years.  So after he closed the business, he finally decided to put his travel wings on.   When he left Pattaya after the 1st visit,  he said he needed to go back to see if he could really live in TL.   His 2nd visit confirmed for him that living in TL full time was not really for him.   

Now, I think he has realized,  that he should just stick to traveling.   I dont think Im out of line saying this.  But he shared with me, he felt that the camaraderie and maintaining connections with the expats in TL was not as tightknit as he was accustomed to in the DR.   
   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on May 28, 2023, 03:42:15 PM
Friday, March 26th 2023

  Kerry is the dude that had the Zanizibar restaurant/bar on the beach. 

Hey I ran into him a few months back it couldn't been last year to be honest I lose track of time in treetown in Pattaya he told me he was moving to Pattaya did he change his mind.
Yes he changed his mind.  His 1st visit to TL and Pattaya according to him, he had a blast.  Everything was all new to him, and it was a major change from Sosua.  Sosua I think had worn him down from being bogged down trying to run a business so soon after starting to live in the DR. 

Plus he had never been anywhere in several years.  So after he closed the business, he finally decided to put his travel wings on.   When he left Pattaya after the 1st visit,  he said he needed to go back to see if he could really live in TL.   His 2nd visit confirmed for him that living in TL full time was not really for him.   

Now, I think he has realized,  that he should just stick to traveling.   I dont think Im out of line saying this.  But he shared with me, he felt that the camaraderie and maintaining connections with the expats in TL was not as tightknit as he was accustomed to in the DR.   
   
Oh really interesting I don't really hang in that group but know a few of the members of the black expat guys here and the bars they all go to and they seem pretty tight. I don't like being in the black expat groups because you miss out on some of the other scene Pattaya has to offer what I mean by that those guys don't really like go go bars and only really go to the black clubs like 808 or Flexx so when it comes to chick your getting the groupie type chicks that every other black dude in town knows.

Yea the camaraderie in Sosua is great even for dudes just visiting. Angeles city was kinda like that but more so for guys that were in the Military the only thing I thought about it there is that there aren't many younger dudes around.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on May 28, 2023, 03:47:16 PM
Friday, March 26th 2023

  Kerry is the dude that had the Zanizibar restaurant/bar on the beach. 

Hey I ran into him a few months back it couldn't been last year to be honest I lose track of time in treetown in Pattaya he told me he was moving to Pattaya did he change his mind.
Yes he changed his mind.  His 1st visit to TL and Pattaya according to him, he had a blast.  Everything was all new to him, and it was a major change from Sosua.  Sosua I think had worn him down from being bogged down trying to run a business so soon after starting to live in the DR. 

Plus he had never been anywhere in several years.  So after he closed the business, he finally decided to put his travel wings on.   When he left Pattaya after the 1st visit,  he said he needed to go back to see if he could really live in TL.   His 2nd visit confirmed for him that living in TL full time was not really for him.   

Now, I think he has realized,  that he should just stick to traveling.   I dont think Im out of line saying this.  But he shared with me, he felt that the camaraderie and maintaining connections with the expats in TL was not as tightknit as he was accustomed to in the DR.   
   

If an expat has his money right I see no need to try to get right back to the grindstone in a 3rd world country. If an expat gets bored it's way better to just volunteer. Even running a bar is hard work people think they just hand out a few beers here and there let their local employees do all the work and just collect cash.

There's a million things that can and do go wrong.
but agian not personally visiting Asia and hearing many mongers talk about the upsides and downsides it seems that the main problem of Thailand is that it's even more point and click than Sosua. No one needs to buy a youtube consultation to go to a beer bar and barfine a bitch.

If said monger is stupid enough to think that the freelancers on Beach road are "different" than the ran throughs in bars then he'll find out after he figures out how to spot the ladyboys.

of course any "baddies with bubbles". have been super duper ran through and has been with every Black guy who ever stepped foot in Thailand.

There's not a need to ask for advice or post L's and W's. Guys bond over learning that a third world woman is still a woman The fact that women are so user friendly means that dudes start to think they're "that guy" so they never have to ask why a chicka cheated them.
In Sosua it's freelance city dudes come down stub their toe get pickpocketed on thir first day, get upcharged  realize that they get gringoed at every oppertunity and they learn to seek out advice from vets.

Just learning that she doesn't love you or want your company without being richly compensated teaches dubs that dudes are the only people that don't want or need anything from them.

Dudes don't go simply to f--k women they come for Beers Bitches Beaches and Buddies..  I just spent a lunch with a 76 year old white guy who wanted someone to talk to.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 29, 2023, 07:26:05 AM
Half the fun is listening to other mongers telling chica stories, good for a few laughs or the chica score board the good bad and ugly 500 peso blow job chica !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on May 29, 2023, 08:54:20 AM
Half the fun is listening to other mongers telling chica stories, good for a few laughs or the chica score board the good bad and ugly 500 peso blow job chica !

Like I said guys want Bitches Beers Beaches and Buddies.  I asked this old timer why he bothered to take pictures when he barely knew how to use a smartphone. He said it was for bragging rights back home.

 A lot of guys seek me out not because they need or want advice they want to hang out with me between f--k sessions
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 31, 2023, 01:36:21 PM
Half the fun is listening to other mongers telling chica stories, good for a few laughs or the chica score board the good bad and ugly 500 peso blow job chica !

Like I said guys want Bitches Beers Beaches and Buddies.  I asked this old timer why he bothered to take pictures when he barely knew how to use a smartphone. He said it was for bragging rights back home.

 A lot of guys seek me out not because they need or want advice they want to hang out with me between f--k sessions
For sure, hanging out and talking is great fun!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 01, 2023, 12:31:44 PM
Wednesday May 31, & Thursday June 1, 2023


There was a MASS exodus of guys leaving Sosua, yesterday and today.  Just about every hotel I passed by had guys packed and ready to go.    It will be interesting to see if the planes coming in are packed with the same amount of guys coming in, to replace the ones that left.   Not all travelers are leaving from POP.   

I met enough guys that were leaving Sosua to go to STI and SDQ.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on June 01, 2023, 03:13:43 PM
Half the fun is listening to other mongers telling chica stories, good for a few laughs or the chica score board the good bad and ugly 500 peso blow job chica !

Like I said guys want Bitches Beers Beaches and Buddies.  I asked this old timer why he bothered to take pictures when he barely knew how to use a smartphone. He said it was for bragging rights back home.

 A lot of guys seek me out not because they need or want advice they want to hang out with me between f--k sessions
For sure, hanging out and talking is great fun!

that's all that some guys want to do which explains the plethora of bars on PC
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on June 01, 2023, 03:14:58 PM
Wednesday May 31, & Thursday June 1, 2023


There was a MASS exodus of guys leaving Sosua, yesterday and today.  Just about every hotel I passed by had guys packed and ready to go.    It will be interesting to see if the planes coming in are packed with the same amount of guys coming in, to replace the ones that left.   Not all travelers are leaving from POP.   

I met enough guys that were leaving Sosua to go to STI and SDQ.

The Dub Dubs gotta go back to work and pay for the overspending and future WU payments and new trips.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 04, 2023, 09:20:28 AM
Saturday June 3rd, 2023

I think there is an informal APB out on a 60ish plus white male expat.   Seen leaving Cheers Bar intoxicated.  Upon arrival to Cheers in his green SUV, he parked it directly across from Cheers.  He parked his vehicle extremely close to a pasola, owned by a Haitian lady at the salon right there.   

After a certain amount of time of him drinking in Cheers it was time for him to go.  He made it to his vehicle.  One of the patrons inside brought him a pair of shoes that he left inside of the bar.  He took the shoes, got in his vehicle.   Started it up, and proceeded to leave the parking spot. 

Dude forgot that he parked the nose of his vehicle awhile ago right next to a pasola.   So when he pulled off, he knocked the pasola over and partially ran over it.  Broke the ladies mirrors , and who knows what else?  Just before it happened,  the guy was being yelled at because a couple of people right there saw that he was about to hit the pasola.  But it was too late.  Did he stop to look at the damage?   Nope.  Dude kept right on going, like nothing happened.   

I think the lady was in shock, when it happened.  And nobody else was there with transpo to go after the car.  I dont think dude will be coming back to Cheers for a long while.   He's a regular at the bar, and he parks in that spot near her salon and the fruit stand regularly.  So anybody should recognize him if he ever comes back.  Where he lives may very well be known to some of the locals.   But damn, dude clobbered her pasola.   

Now if that had of happened to a Dominican persons pasola, that dude wouldnt have made it to his house without several locals going after him.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 04, 2023, 10:27:30 AM
The Dude should do the right thing and compensate the haitian women for damages ,SAVE face !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 04, 2023, 12:13:36 PM
The Dude should do the right thing and compensate the haitian women for damages ,SAVE face !
I agree.  However the way enough locals are, they dont believe in fair compensation.  Some will try to claim you have to pay them enough for another pasola.   A guy told me about a guy hitting a pasola on the strip with his motorbike.  The bike belonged to one of the chicks working inside of the restaurant. 

Chick over exaggerated the damage to her pasola.  She wanted $150 for minimal damage.  Worse, she claimed she was hurt from being on the pasola.  And that is what she was going to tell the police.   She wasnt anywhere near the pasola at the time the dude hit it.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 04, 2023, 03:17:35 PM
Not to preach , if you have a car or truck have a dash cam, can save your ass  , if a local claiming more damage or bogas claims,,also dont get three sheets to the wind and drive no bunea !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 04, 2023, 06:09:06 PM
Not to preach , if you have a car or truck have a dash cam, can save your ass  , if a local claiming more damage or bogas claims,,also dont get three sheets to the wind and drive no bunea !
My buddy showed me his dash cam.   Looked very nice.  Front and rear cameras w/32gb memory card.   He bought it on Amazon, and had it installed by place on the highway near Los Castillo. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 04, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Not to preach , if you have a car or truck have a dash cam, can save your ass  , if a local claiming more damage or bogas claims,,also dont get three sheets to the wind and drive no bunea !
My buddy showed me his dash cam.   Looked very nice.  Front and rear cameras w/32gb memory card.   He bought it on Amazon, and had it installed by place on the highway near Los Castillo.
Think Dan on W & R youtube did a segment on dash cams and driving in sosua and the DR . good advice
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: zava3545@gmail.com on June 05, 2023, 08:06:37 AM
I was at BB for the weekend. There were about 4 to 6 guys spending the night in the Hotel.
Some guys would show up at night but only to eat and watch.
Not enough business for the girls.
I was hoping to see more guys so I could slowly make my picks. (I had to turn down a lot this weekend)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 05, 2023, 09:18:51 AM
@ zava3545  :  You may want to go back and edit your post.   So it doesnt look like one big quote.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 05, 2023, 10:20:45 AM
Not to preach , if you have a car or truck have a dash cam, can save your ass  , if a local claiming more damage or bogas claims,,also dont get three sheets to the wind and drive no bunea !
My buddy showed me his dash cam.   Looked very nice.  Front and rear cameras w/32gb memory card.   He bought it on Amazon, and had it installed by place on the highway near Los Castillo.
Think Dan on W & R youtube did a segment on dash cams and driving in sosua and the DR . good advice
Thanks
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on June 05, 2023, 02:24:14 PM
Wednesday May 31, & Thursday June 1, 2023


There was a MASS exodus of guys leaving Sosua, yesterday and today.  Just about every hotel I passed by had guys packed and ready to go.    It will be interesting to see if the planes coming in are packed with the same amount of guys coming in, to replace the ones that left.   Not all travelers are leaving from POP.   

I met enough guys that were leaving Sosua to go to STI and SDQ.
Is this a new trend? Sunday-Thur. flights in the past have always been cheaper. Mid week departures and returns have often been 20-30% cheaper With the huge increases of late, it might be a factor.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 05, 2023, 02:32:00 PM
If you can do 7 days out of Ny, RT  take jet blue non stop saturday to saturday, a hare cheaper
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on June 05, 2023, 02:41:39 PM
Where I'm from Tuesday to Tuesday is the cheap one.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 05, 2023, 03:02:14 PM
Wednesday May 31, & Thursday June 1, 2023


There was a MASS exodus of guys leaving Sosua, yesterday and today.  Just about every hotel I passed by had guys packed and ready to go.    It will be interesting to see if the planes coming in are packed with the same amount of guys coming in, to replace the ones that left.   Not all travelers are leaving from POP.   

I met enough guys that were leaving Sosua to go to STI and SDQ.
Is this a new trend? Sunday-Thur. flights in the past have always been cheaper. Mid week departures and returns have often been 20-30% cheaper With the huge increases of late, it might be a factor.
Ones things for sure.   Enough guys Ive talked to were not all weekenders.   Many guys have various lengths of time spent in the DR/Sosua.   And as reported, not all are flying in or out of POP.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 05, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
I was at BB for the weekend. There were about 4 to 6 guys spending the night in the Hotel.
Some guys would show up at night but only to eat and watch.
Not enough business for the girls.
I was hoping to see more guys so I could slowly make my picks. (I had to turn down a lot this weekend)
You had to turn down a lot this weekend?  Sounds like a good problem to have.  LOL
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Warrior118 on June 05, 2023, 05:26:03 PM
"It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas sitting inside with some white guys yesterday.

Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.

They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.

Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.

Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story."


This why I come on here, unless your fat out shape dude with no game you shouldn't be paying over 4 thousand pesos no Americans money period. Who school you, sound like dude is sim. Paying 100$ us for hour with chick. You can't make this shit up, but for veteran that been on here since 2017 I told these corny dudes was coming over paying for market up, making videos, being loud with etc.. I still pay 3-4 thousands pesos for any girl I want. Like tell sosua new chicks these high ass quote you need find one these corny ass sim.. dammmm dude mess this place up
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on June 06, 2023, 09:04:15 PM
"It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas sitting inside with some white guys yesterday.

Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.

They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.

Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.

Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story."


This why I come on here, unless your fat out shape dude with no game you shouldn't be paying over 4 thousand pesos no Americans money period. Who school you, sound like dude is sim. Paying 100$ us for hour with chick. You can't make this shit up, but for veteran that been on here since 2017 I told these corny dudes was coming over paying for market up, making videos, being loud with etc.. I still pay 3-4 thousands pesos for any girl I want. Like tell sosua new chicks these high ass quote you need find one these corny ass sim.. dammmm dude mess this place up
2017 huh man you yourself was late and some would say your overpaying.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on June 08, 2023, 12:51:03 PM
3-4000
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on June 08, 2023, 01:09:30 PM
3-3500 for 2 times in 2 hours is Ok, if the chica puts in the work!! Kick the dead fishes out if the first round sucks,2 Mil out the door!! Some take the money and leave, others beg for a second chance. I stay for a month Min. so the chicas I pick know there is steady money from me if I choose them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Warrior118 on June 11, 2023, 09:16:22 PM
"It is 8:00 pm Friday Jan 10,2020. No sign of life with Merengue, Clasico, Bourbon Street, Kings (Rumba location), El Flow (Pranitium?) The closed signs are still posted outside. The main ones open are Flame Bar (dead), Bar Central (mucho patrons inside with a few chicas inside too). Chez Montreal open but sporadic business. Did see a couple of chicas sitting inside with some white guys yesterday.

Another interesting thing I observed is about 2 dozen or more chicas walking about on the strip this evening And also around the corner on Dr Rosen. A couple in front of the mercado. A couple standing outside New Garden. While I stood on PC for a few minutes, a Politur pickup pulled up and parked in front of the Chinese general store because they saw some Haitian girls standing around in front.

They scattered. But these officers started walking around looking for girls. The Supervisor walked across to the German restaurant because one girl was standing in front but not with anybody. She pointed inside even though she wasnt with anybody. He told her to move inside the restaurant. Then the officers walked around the corner (Dr Rosen) and started to direct the girls hanging around that bar to move inside.

Oh and BTW, Policia Nacionals and the Politur have been circling around and around all afternoon and early evening. Keeping a close eye on anything they don't like going on in the area especially the strip. IMO, even if some more businesses open up, I can see the police are going to make it very hard for chicas to move about, or even go in or leave establishments on PC. I think the reason I see enough chicas around the strip, is because the night time action at Ahnvee is much later. Meanwhile chicas see potential clients ( guys staying in the hotels ) are around the strip.

Generally speaking, some of the cuties I see walking around look new to Sosua. Just some random chicas here in Sosua to make some money. Usually already schooled to set the price at $100 or 5 k for ST. It's getting closer to SB week. Vet chicas usually start making plans for their rooms way ahead. Because once most of the rooms are taken, chicas will have to stay in Charimicos or PP, or wherever they can. So expect more chicas to pile into town, but also expect the outrageous price expectations to come with it. Good service? Thats another story."


This why I come on here, unless your fat out shape dude with no game you shouldn't be paying over 4 thousand pesos no Americans money period. Who school you, sound like dude is sim. Paying 100$ us for hour with chick. You can't make this shit up, but for veteran that been on here since 2017 I told these corny dudes was coming over paying for market up, making videos, being loud with etc.. I still pay 3-4 thousands pesos for any girl I want. Like tell sosua new chicks these high ass quote you need find one these corny ass sim.. dammmm dude mess this place up
2017 huh man you yourself was late and some would say your overpaying.

Who would say I'm over paying.. Unless your Spanish is tight that only way I see someone paying less than 3k. I pay 4k one time but she let me knock it down 2 times. So idk brother. 2017 I was paying 1,200 -1,500. Shit change idk when last time you been down there. In past year I been there 4 times it different. Chick asking for American money if you really been going to sosua that was unheard of. Always pesos I been going since 2011..
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on June 11, 2023, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: murano2010 link=topic=11712.msg206490#msg206490 date=1578703214

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2017 huh man you yourself was late and some would say your overpaying.

Who would say I'm over paying.. Unless your Spanish is tight that only way I see someone paying less than 3k. I pay 4k one time but she let me knock it down 2 times. So idk brother. 2017 I was paying 1,200 -1,500. Shit change idk when last time you been down there. In past year I been there 4 times it different. Chick asking for American money if you really been going to Sosua that was unheard of. Always pesos I been going since 2011..
I stopped going in 2016 because to me at time Sosua had become trash I came back during covid as everywhere outside of DR and Mexico was closed haven't been since April 2022. Yea I can remember some chicks asking for dollars in 2016. Well there are guys that claim they get chicks for 2k can't speek to the quality as people come up with reasons not to post a pic but thats what some say.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Warrior118 on June 12, 2023, 03:46:23 AM
Quote from: murano2010 link=topic=11712.msg206490#msg206490 date=1578703214

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2017 huh man you yourself was late and some would say your overpaying.

Who would say I'm over paying.. Unless your Spanish is tight that only way I see someone paying less than 3k. I pay 4k one time but she let me knock it down 2 times. So idk brother. 2017 I was paying 1,200 -1,500. Shit change idk when last time you been down there. In past year I been there 4 times it different. Chick asking for American money if you really been going to Sosua that was unheard of. Always pesos I been going since 2011..
I stopped going in 2016 because to me at time Sosua had become trash I came back during covid as everywhere outside of DR and Mexico was closed haven't been since April 2022. Yea I can remember some chicks asking for dollars in 2016. Well there are guys that claim they get chicks for 2k can't speek to the quality as people come up with reasons not to post a pic but thats what some say.

I was out there in 2016. That like right before flip of strip. dudes don't post no more their simps on here telling and show them the post. Alot of stop doing that years ago. Truth to be told some of people on here are from sosua writing posts
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 12, 2023, 06:02:49 AM
Why are you guys making your posts look like one big fat quote?   Once one guy f--ks it up everybody else responding in the chain continues f--king it up.  Making the whole response into a quote.   Once you see the result of what you submitted, it's best to just reply without quoting and just acknowledge the person you are responding to.   Unless you know how to edit the part where the problem is. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on June 12, 2023, 06:48:43 AM
Why are you guys making your posts look like one big fat quote?   Once one guy f--ks it up everybody else responding in the chain continues f--king it up.  Making the whole response into a quote.   Once you see the result of what you submitted, it's best to just reply without quoting and just acknowledge the person you are responding to.   Unless you know how to edit the part where the problem is.
Murano your funny as hell, your the quote master ,Spelling B judge,,End Quote !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on June 12, 2023, 02:26:35 PM
The man does like to talk, JAJAJAJAJ
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 12, 2023, 04:51:14 PM
Why are you guys making your posts look like one big fat quote?   Once one guy f--ks it up everybody else responding in the chain continues f--king it up.  Making the whole response into a quote.   Once you see the result of what you submitted, it's best to just reply without quoting and just acknowledge the person you are responding to.   Unless you know how to edit the part where the problem is.
Murano your funny as hell, your the quote master ,Spelling B judge,,End Quote !
Tug you are too kind.  My spelling, grammar and sentence structure is worse than yours.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bangoskank on June 12, 2023, 05:02:00 PM
Why are you guys making your posts look like one big fat quote?   Once one guy f--ks it up everybody else responding in the chain continues f--king it up.  Making the whole response into a quote.   Once you see the result of what you submitted, it's best to just reply without quoting and just acknowledge the person you are responding to.   Unless you know how to edit the part where the problem is.
Murano your funny as hell, your the quote master ,Spelling B judge,,End Quote !
Tug you are too kind.  My spelling, grammar and sentence structure is worse than yours.

😳😳😳
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on June 12, 2023, 05:54:00 PM
Why are you guys making your posts look like one big fat quote?   Once one guy f--ks it up everybody else responding in the chain continues f--king it up.  Making the whole response into a quote.   Once you see the result of what you submitted, it's best to just reply without quoting and just acknowledge the person you are responding to.   Unless you know how to edit the part where the problem is.
Murano your funny as hell, your the quote master ,Spelling B judge,,End Quote !
Tug you are too kind.  My spelling, grammar and sentence structure is worse than yours.

I'm wondering why you kept removing my responses to your posts in the other chat, regarding Haitian chicas preferring white dudes.

That's LIGHT-SKINNED level sensitivity, for real.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on June 12, 2023, 06:17:38 PM
Or sensitive ego maybe?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 13, 2023, 01:36:15 AM
Any person who starts a thread was given the privilege by the moderators to maintain his own thread.   That means if you initiate insults, troll peoples topics and fail to engage in intelligent discourse, where you explain what the f--k you are talking about when somebody asks for clarification,  that OP can take reasonable measures to mitigate posts that ruin the flow of the thread.  The moderators seem to encourage threads to be managed by their OPs, rather than getting involved in petty squabbles. 

You two, are just the type that fit that criteria.   With one of you close to being permanently banned.  Because he just wont STFU.     And besides, if you have a personal beef or concerns with something you think someone did,  then you could have used the PM function.  You dont have to troll people in other topics, to get at them.  I find that to be very juvenile. 

This is a friendly and last warning.  You will get Kevin Samueled for your ill intent, disruptive participation,  if you continue trolling and/or making unnecessary remarks instead of staying on topic.     You can do and say whatever you want in anybody else's topic,  just not mine.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 13, 2023, 01:45:03 PM
Anybody know the young US Citizen Curtis Wright that died while at Sosua beach?    It happened at Sosua beach yesterday ( or the day before ).   Somebody sent me a video, showing civilians giving someone ( presumed to be Curtis Wright ) chest compressions.   His passport shows that he was almost 37 yrs old.   

I have no confirmation, but he allegedly had a heart attack.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: alexis on June 13, 2023, 02:54:17 PM
Anybody know the young US Citizen Curtis Wright that died while at Sosua beach?    It happened at Sosua beach yesterday ( or the day before ).   Somebody sent me a video, showing civilians giving someone ( presumed to be Curtis Wright ) chest compressions.   His passport shows that he was almost 37 yrs old.   

I have no confirmation, but he allegedly had a heart attack.

OMG! That’s a tragedy and very sad to hear.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Hobby on June 13, 2023, 03:24:38 PM
Anybody know the young US Citizen Curtis Wright that died while at Sosua beach?    It happened at Sosua beach yesterday ( or the day before ).   Somebody sent me a video, showing civilians giving someone ( presumed to be Curtis Wright ) chest compressions.   His passport shows that he was almost 37 yrs old.   

I have no confirmation, but he allegedly had a heart attack.

I heard about this last night while out on the town in the Su. I asked the guy whom told me to give a bit more info but he was not sure about it as well.  I looked at all the Dominican on-line news papers and nothing at least at that time.  Sad story.

Hobby
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 23, 2023, 02:26:35 PM
Friday June 23rd 2023

Went to Super Pola to buy groceries.    I noticed something different about the credit/debit card machine while checking out.    I asked the clerk can I use my phone to pay?  He said yes.  So I paid for my groceries at Super Pola using my android phone and Samsung Wallet.    Charles Schwab is my preferred digital wallet card since I dont have to worry about foreign transaction fees. 

Not sure when SP upgraded their card readers at the register, but a while back only the Playero  supermarket was accepting payments using Samsung Wallet or Apple Pay.   But now, Super Pola has joined the rest, in making purchases much easier with cashless payments.

Some of you may already know, I can pay for gas at the Texaco station in Sosua with Samsung Wallet on my phone.   Pesos gets spent quick, but using my phone at those places keeps more pesos in my pocket.   

Domex courier service has an office in Sosua.  They will let one pay with their phone as well.   Dont forget, Domex is the courier service that the US Embassy in SD uses for those sending or receiving documents.   Like my passport renewal.   Back in 2020 Sosua did not have a Domex branch office.   I had to go all the way to Puerto Plata.    Since Domex has an office in Sosua now, I decided that my next online purchases, I would have it delivered to the Sosua office.   My test runs went very well. 

If anyone decides to use Domex for receiving packages, they charge 250 pesos a lb.   So if you order something from Amazon to have delivered to Sosua, and the total weight is 4lbs.   You will have to pay RD $1,000 for your package in the Sosua office.    So be careful with heavy weight items.   Because if you dont it could cost you a lot just because of the weight.   

I usually use EPS or BM Cargo, but decided to try Domex for a change.   It usually takes about 7 to 10 business days to receive something you purchased online to reach Sosua.    What was good about my last 2 deliveries with Domex, my purchases were over $200 USD.   The other courier services make a big deal about any purchases totaling over $200 USD, claiming customs in SD will add a surcharge accordingly.   

That did not happen using Domex with my 2 separate orders that were both over $200 USD.  I only paid for the weight of my packages.    Customs in SD did not make me pay a surcharge.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on June 23, 2023, 02:43:26 PM
A word of caution anyone using courier services in the DR when ordering goods online.  Certain items you buy can be taxed at customs in Santo Domingo fiercely.  Like a cell phone.   Several years ago I asked the clerk at BM Cargo approx how much would the taxes be on a phone that cost $900 USD online?   When she got back to me, she told me I would have to pay approx RD $15,000 to $18,000 pesos in taxes on that phone.   And I still would have to pay for the weight of the item at the courier service.   

Bear in mind, some items you purchase in the states these courier services won't ship it.  Like certain automotive parts, or maybe items considered dangerous.  So one should check with their courier service 1st  in the DR, before ordering stuff in the states for them to deliver to the DR from the Miami address ( given to you by the courier service ).     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on June 23, 2023, 08:10:24 PM
Friday June 23rd 2023

Went to Super Pola to buy groceries.    I noticed something different about the credit/debit card machine while checking out.    I asked the clerk can I use my phone to pay?  He said yes.  So I paid for my groceries at Super Pola using my android phone and Samsung Wallet.    Charles Schwab is my preferred digital wallet card since I dont have to worry about foreign transaction fees. 

Not sure when SP upgraded their card readers at the register, but a while back only the Playero  supermarket was accepting payments using Samsung Wallet or Apple Pay.   But now, Super Pola has joined the rest, in making purchases much easier with cashless payments.

Some of you may already know, I can pay for gas at the Texaco station in Sosua with Samsung Wallet on my phone.   Pesos gets spent quick, but using my phone at those places keeps more pesos in my pocket.   

Domex courier service has an office in Sosua.  They will let one pay with their phone as well.   Dont forget, Domex is the courier service that the US Embassy in SD uses for those sending or receiving documents.   Like my passport renewal.   Back in 2020 Sosua did not have a Domex branch office.   I had to go all the way to Puerto Plata.    Since Domex has an office in Sosua now, I decided that my next online purchases, I would have it delivered to the Sosua office.   My test runs went very well. 

If anyone decides to use Domex for receiving packages, they charge 250 pesos a lb.   So if you order something from Amazon to have delivered to Sosua, and the total weight is 4lbs.   You will have to pay RD $1,000 for your package in the Sosua office.    So be careful with heavy weight items.   Because if you dont it could cost you a lot just because of the weight.   

I usually use EPS or BM Cargo, but decided to try Domex for a change.   It usually takes about 7 to 10 business days to receive something you purchased online to reach Sosua.    What was good about my last 2 deliveries with Domex, my purchases were over $200 USD.   The other courier services make a big deal about any purchases totaling over $200 USD, claiming customs in SD will add a surcharge accordingly.   

That did not happen using Domex with my 2 separate orders that were both over $200 USD.  I only paid for the weight of my packages.    Customs in SD did not make me pay a surcharge.   

The heads up about Domex is good to know
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Warrior118 on June 24, 2023, 01:33:19 AM
A word of caution anyone using courier services in the DR when ordering goods online.  Certain items you buy can be taxed at customs in Santo Domingo fiercely.  Like a cell phone.   Several years ago I asked the clerk at BM Cargo approx how much would the taxes be on a phone that cost $900 USD online?   When she got back to me, she told me I would have to pay approx RD $15,000 to $18,000 pesos in taxes on that phone.   And I still would have to pay for the weight of the item at the courier service.   

Bear in mind, some items you purchase in the states these courier services won't ship it.  Like certain automotive parts, or maybe items considered dangerous.  So one should check with their courier service 1st  in the DR, before ordering stuff in the states for them to deliver to the DR from the Miami address ( given to you by the courier service ).   

I know you was definitely down there. I just got back but when I arrived june 18th they was definitely counting bottle and try pull tax shit on new item stuff . I pulled that tax thing in another direction 20$ us. He said anything over 10 bottle & new ticket items. the new administration he said is not have it. The su was majority on dead side, I met alot of 1st time. Definitely rain off and on. I stop at flip flop to see G let him see my arm( torn biceps).. I like going in & out the new whore door on side of rumba .. priceless lol
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 15, 2023, 05:10:48 PM
Yup down here now on Pc posted up at the shumerglube german restwraunt  kinds slow for a monday night but a few old hands on patrol. Mateos is closed dont know if for vacation. , probably get busy later this week ill report back  stay cool!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 17, 2023, 11:15:12 AM
As usual the one eyed haitian chica and the midget on patrol  they must have a lot of mileage !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on July 20, 2023, 03:05:28 PM
Tug, wtf , are you OK?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 04, 2023, 04:31:41 PM
It's not just the chicas to blame for sky high prices in Sosua.   Everything has gone up.   Usually, August is considered low season.  But booking rooms can be a daunting task.   A buddy of mine is coming in a few weeks.   I decided to help him out because none of the hotel choices he was looking for had rooms for the dates he wanted.   A lot of places are already sold out.

I went to Sosua Inn 1st.  No rooms available.   The rep there said, you have to book several months in advance.    The prices at Sosua Inn are more than I thought.   I went to Casa Valeria.   I didnt know they had rooms for over $80 a night.   Their luxury room is $105 a night.   10% off if you pay cash.    I got him the luxury room there.  Online, they said there were no rooms available for his dates.   So it pays to have someone book for you, if they have boots on the ground. 

I know it's been awhile since I stayed in a hotel, but I thought that hotel rates in Sosua during low season were around $55 to $60 a night.    Id hate to see what the rates are/were during the high season.   

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 04, 2023, 06:34:00 PM
Sosua suites ,empty cheap 2 star cot and a crapper hotel if your on a budget, Disclaimer no finacial intrest !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 05, 2023, 11:16:24 AM
Sosua suites ,empty cheap 2 star cot and a crapper hotel if your on a budget, Disclaimer no finacial intrest !
Yeah,  Sosua Suites was my 2nd go to place back in 2011, and before that Hotel Seabreeze was my 1st hotel that I stayed at.    Since it's about my buddies comfort, I know he wouldnt like SS.    But he claimed he liked Casa Valeria from the photos online, and the video I made for him.   Plus it's only 4 days.     

If it was just me,  I could stay at SS.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on August 05, 2023, 12:21:39 PM
Sosua suites ,empty cheap 2 star cot and a crapper hotel if your on a budget, Disclaimer no finacial intrest !
Yeah,  Sosua Suites was my 2nd go to place back in 2011, and before that Hotel Seabreeze was my 1st hotel that I stayed at.    Since it's about my buddies comfort, I know he wouldnt like SS.    But he claimed he liked Casa Valeria from the photos online, and the video I made for him.   Plus it's only 4 days.     

If it was just me,  I could stay at SS.

Not sure if Kelsey still owns the place or not but he is a super nice dude.

I used to stay there at one time but there were issues that caused me to go elsewhere and haven't been back
The noise from El Flow was a problem (they are gone now) So noise probably not much of a issue now.
Rooms very dated often the a/c not the best.   (I see from the pictures at least a few rooms have been updated so if you get a new room it might be ok)
Pool was often dirty

There were also issues with security letting uninvited chicas onto the property.   That was something I simply could not tolerate and have not gone back because of it.   (Perhaps it's not an issue now).   

The ability to keep unwanted chicas away from you is something that I think should be a pretty high priority in Sosua.   I don't want to be bothered with them and there are places I can stay that is not an issue.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 05, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
This AirBNB seems nice.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/883289795222196018?check_in=2023-09-06&check_out=2023-09-09&source_impression_id=p3_1691261795_TFnAoiKbft5pZP2W&previous_page_section_name=1000&federated_search_id=9d5a627e-055e-43bf-8228-33652430ad47
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 05, 2023, 03:40:59 PM
Sosua suites ,empty cheap 2 star cot and a crapper hotel if your on a budget, Disclaimer no finacial intrest !
Yeah,  Sosua Suites was my 2nd go to place back in 2011, and before that Hotel Seabreeze was my 1st hotel that I stayed at.    Since it's about my buddies comfort, I know he wouldnt like SS.    But he claimed he liked Casa Valeria from the photos online, and the video I made for him.   Plus it's only 4 days.     

If it was just me,  I could stay at SS.

Not sure if Kelsey still owns the place or not but he is a super nice dude.

I used to stay there at one time but there were issues that caused me to go elsewhere and haven't been back
The noise from El Flow was a problem (they are gone now) So noise probably not much of a issue now.
Rooms very dated often the a/c not the best.   (I see from the pictures at least a few rooms have been updated so if you get a new room it might be ok)
Pool was often dirty

There were also issues with security letting uninvited chicas onto the property.   That was something I simply could not tolerate and have not gone back because of it.   (Perhaps it's not an issue now).   

The ability to keep unwanted chicas away from you is something that I think should be a pretty high priority in Sosua.   I don't want to be bothered with them and there are places I can stay that is not an issue.
Back when I was staying at SS, I always chose UNIT#C2.  that was a little further from El Flow.   What got me started with SS, was it was a step up from Seabreeze in terms of space.    At Seabreeze you walk into your room.   At SS, you at least had a mini apt.   

You are correct that the place was dated, even back then.   But for some reason that didnt bother me at the time.   Maybe it's because I usually got the same unit each visit.   I dont recall security being a problem.   The security guy at the time seemed ok.   

Kelsey does still own it.  In fact he lives there himself.  And his wife has the dental office right next door, that used to be the barber/salon.    Several years ago as you may recall, Kelsey was less hands on.   Rick from Rocky's Blues Bar/Restaurant ( across the street ) was managing bookings, cleaning staff and other stuff for SS ( Kelsey).   

After SS, I started staying at Condos Margarita.   I felt I had stepped up.  The only problem is the location.  Sosua Suites had the best location, if one wanted to be close to the action.   Easy to walk a chica to your spot from the strip.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 08, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
In a pinch I will stay at Sea breeze ok rooms and close to what you want. My first few years in Sosua I stayed there (reno. room) and Casa Cyena ( BEFORE THE MURDER). It was run by an old German guy, included 2 meals/ day for 50 usd. Sea Breeze was 42 usd.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 12, 2023, 03:08:02 PM
A contact sent me a forwarded Whatsapp message.   

The message says :

"Lionel was found unresponsive by his landlady & rushed to the hospital. His roadie Lance & landlady were with him when he passed. We are asking for any donations to help with his funeral. If you'd like to donate cash app is $PHLgingerPOP... Thanks to everyone who has dmed. I appreciate it."

I dont know the facts or have any information, and I have nothing to do with any fund drive.   Just passing on what was sent to me.   If anybody has any details about him,  share it.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 12, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
RIP Lionell. hes was one of the first dudes to offer advive when i stepped foot on PC back in 2013 , got to be a pain in the ass once in a while i always gave him a few pesos .
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 12, 2023, 04:42:38 PM
Sosua suites ,empty cheap 2 star cot and a crapper hotel if your on a budget, Disclaimer no finacial intrest !
Yeah,  Sosua Suites was my 2nd go to place back in 2011, and before that Hotel Seabreeze was my 1st hotel that I stayed at.    Since it's about my buddies comfort, I know he wouldnt like SS.    But he claimed he liked Casa Valeria from the photos online, and the video I made for him.   Plus it's only 4 days.     

If it was just me,  I could stay at SS.

Not sure if Kelsey still owns the place or not but he is a super nice dude.

I used to stay there at one time but there were issues that caused me to go elsewhere and haven't been back
The noise from El Flow was a problem (they are gone now) So noise probably not much of a issue now.
Rooms very dated often the a/c not the best.   (I see from the pictures at least a few rooms have been updated so if you get a new room it might be ok)
Pool was often dirty

There were also issues with security letting uninvited chicas onto the property.   That was something I simply could not tolerate and have not gone back because of it.   (Perhaps it's not an issue now).   

The ability to keep unwanted chicas away from you is something that I think should be a pretty high priority in Sosua.   I don't want to be bothered with them and there are places I can stay that is not an issue.
Back when I was staying at SS, I always chose UNIT#C2.  that was a little further from El Flow.   What got me started with SS, was it was a step up from Seabreeze in terms of space.    At Seabreeze you walk into your room.   At SS, you at least had a mini apt.   

You are correct that the place was dated, even back then.   But for some reason that didnt bother me at the time.   Maybe it's because I usually got the same unit each visit.   I dont recall security being a problem.   The security guy at the time seemed ok.   

Kelsey does still own it.  In fact he lives there himself.  And his wife has the dental office right next door, that used to be the barber/salon.    Several years ago as you may recall, Kelsey was less hands on.   Rick from Rocky's Blues Bar/Restaurant ( across the street ) was managing bookings, cleaning staff and other stuff for SS ( Kelsey).   

After SS, I started staying at Condos Margarita.   I felt I had stepped up.  The only problem is the location.  Sosua Suites had the best location, if one wanted to be close to the action.   Easy to walk a chica to your spot from the strip.
My go to spot  ,Kelsey good pepole !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 12, 2023, 06:32:31 PM
A contact sent me a forwarded Whatsapp message.   

The message says :

"Lionel was found unresponsive by his landlady & rushed to the hospital. His roadie Lance & landlady were with him when he passed. We are asking for any donations to help with his funeral. If you'd like to donate cash app is $PHLgingerPOP... Thanks to everyone who has dmed. I appreciate it."

I dont know the facts or have any information, and I have nothing to do with any fund drive.   Just passing on what was sent to me.   If anybody has any details about him,  share it.

Guys had got to take better care of themselves. is he american?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 12, 2023, 07:08:49 PM
A contact sent me a forwarded Whatsapp message.   

The message says :

"Lionel was found unresponsive by his landlady & rushed to the hospital. His roadie Lance & landlady were with him when he passed. We are asking for any donations to help with his funeral. If you'd like to donate cash app is $PHLgingerPOP... Thanks to everyone who has dmed. I appreciate it."

I dont know the facts or have any information, and I have nothing to do with any fund drive.   Just passing on what was sent to me.   If anybody has any details about him,  share it.

Guys had got to take better care of themselves. is he american?
No he was Haitian.  He was a Sosua fixture.  He was known for selling Spanish lesson cd's and books.   He also was a hustler.   Helping guys get chicas, and helping chicas get customers.    He would sit around guys listening to everything they said.     

IMO he was instrumental (along with other hustlers) in schooling chicas and giving them intel on just about anything about us.   Especially since he regularly hung around guys who freely blabbed about everything in his presence.   

I stopped dealing with him very quickly.   He would ask a guy where he was from.   And after that, start telling the guy what he knew about the area.   Then he would tell guys that he used to sell drugs in the states and ended up getting deported.   

I never disputed his story.  I just realized why he was doing it.  To come off as being honest and someone who had turned his life around.   With that, he could gain a guys confidence.  Which eventually would lead to him getting and expecting favors.  Food ( including leftovers ), money, gifts, clothes etc.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 12, 2023, 07:28:40 PM
A contact sent me a forwarded Whatsapp message.   

The message says :

"Lionel was found unresponsive by his landlady & rushed to the hospital. His roadie Lance & landlady were with him when he passed. We are asking for any donations to help with his funeral. If you'd like to donate cash app is $PHLgingerPOP... Thanks to everyone who has dmed. I appreciate it."

I dont know the facts or have any information, and I have nothing to do with any fund drive.   Just passing on what was sent to me.   If anybody has any details about him,  share it.
I dont know the cause of his death, but his death is possibly a signal that he was drinking too much.   Hard liquor too.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 12, 2023, 07:32:22 PM
RIP . I though the same
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 12, 2023, 08:28:27 PM
A contact sent me a forwarded Whatsapp message.   

The message says :

"Lionel was found unresponsive by his landlady & rushed to the hospital. His roadie Lance & landlady were with him when he passed. We are asking for any donations to help with his funeral. If you'd like to donate cash app is $PHLgingerPOP... Thanks to everyone who has dmed. I appreciate it."

I dont know the facts or have any information, and I have nothing to do with any fund drive.   Just passing on what was sent to me.   If anybody has any details about him,  share it.
I dont know the cause of his death, but his death is possibly a signal that he was drinking too much.   Hard liquor too.
For sure he like the hard stuff,meaning hard Booze !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: blue-eyed-devil on August 12, 2023, 09:49:18 PM
Imagine living in a foreign country and having to make a living begging for scraps off tourists and hustlting them for tips after you do them 'favors'. No thanks.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 14, 2023, 12:52:48 PM
Imagine living in a foreign country and having to make a living begging for scraps off tourists and hustlting them for tips after you do them 'favors'. No thanks.
I don't think he was a foreigner, just learned English for his hustle, loved the game on the man. There are a few old time hustles on the streets of Sosua, they even got shirts to make themselves look legit.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 14, 2023, 03:30:16 PM
Imagine living in a foreign country and having to make a living begging for scraps off tourists and hustlting them for tips after you do them 'favors'. No thanks.
I don't think he was a foreigner, just learned English for his hustle, loved the game on the man. There are a few old time hustles on the streets of Sosua, they even got shirts to make themselves look legit.
Are you referring to Lionel the guy that died?  If so, he was Haitian.  That makes him a foreigner, who was living in a foreign country.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 14, 2023, 03:33:04 PM
spliting hairs, come on now!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 14, 2023, 08:28:35 PM
Nobody is splitting hairs.  Is the extra information a problem?   The dude was Haitian, and he lived in the US for a while.  He may have learned some English in Haiti, and became proficient in the US.   So it's not clear where and when he started speaking English and started hustling.   

According to him, he told many people that he used to sell drugs in the US and that is why he supposedly got deported.   Im assuming he got deported back to Haiti, and he eventually made it to the DR.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: hughgrection4u on August 16, 2023, 06:49:26 PM
Is this the Haitian guy that (most recently) used to hang around the Jamaican restaurant right down from New Garden? Part of his story was that he used to live in the states and pick vegetables in Indiana (or Iowa) til he got deported.

RIP Lionell. hes was one of the first dudes to offer advive when i stepped foot on PC back in 2013 , got to be a pain in the ass once in a while i always gave him a few pesos .
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 16, 2023, 07:02:52 PM
Is this the Haitian guy that (most recently) used to hang around the Jamaican restaurant right down from New Garden? Part of his story was that he used to live in the states and pick vegetables in Indiana (or Iowa) til he got deported.


The one were talking about was also known for selling Spanish lesson cd's and book's.  And acted as a hustler.   Yes, he claimed to have lived in the states.   I personally dont know about him picking veggies in Indiana.  But he told me and others that he got caught selling drugs, and ended up getting deported from the US.   Im assuming to Haiti, and later on he made it to the DR.   

Thing is, everything Im saying is ACCORDING TO HIM.   I dont know which parts were fact and which parts were fiction.    His role in Sosua was to hustle to get paid.   Some of that involved lying and saying whatever he needed to say to sound convincing to whoever his target was.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 22, 2023, 08:07:01 AM
Recent Weather Conditions in Sosua

Monday August 21, 2023

In Sosua yesterday morning there was a brief shower about 10 am, and then it cleared up.  Sunny, dry and hot all afternoon.   After 6pm until 9pm it was just a normal warm evening.   And then about 930pm it rained heavy off and on for a few hours.   

Tuesday August 22, 2023

It's early morning at the moment, it's sunny, warm and dry here in Sosua.    Just watched a live news/weather channel on DR TV.   It was raining, and some roads were flooded in Santo Domingo.   As many may already know, storms and hurricanes in the Caribbean tend to come from the south and south/east and work their way in a northern, west and/or northwest direction.   

Very often, the north coastal areas of Sosua, Puerto Plata do not get the brunt of most storm activity that Santo Domingo and other south coast regions of the DR does.   Punta Cana and Puerto Rico can be targets of storm and hurricane activity.   

If flights are not cancelled to POP, one should be ok, staying on the north coast of Puerto Plata province during the course of the storm.   If flights are cancelled to POP today and Wednesday the 23rd, it's probably for the best because we still can get a lot of rain, leading to flooded areas.   Streets and roads.     

I believe official businesses ( examples banks ) will be closed early today in Sosua (probably throughout the DR)     

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 22, 2023, 08:11:00 AM
https://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=41435 (https://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=41435)

Warning of floods, landslides and flooding of rivers due to storm Franklin
Last Update: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 . By: The Writing

The National Hurricane Center reported that heavy rains from Franklin are expected for the Dominican Republic and Haiti, as well as for Puerto Rico until the middle of this week, also indicating that the downpours can produce areas of flash and urban flooding, as well as landslides and river floods.

The entity explained that from Tuesday to Wednesday it is possible that significant flash floods occur, which can be fatal, so citizens are recommended to remain alert to information from the corresponding agencies.

It is expected that as of Tuesday Franklin will bring tropical storm conditions, in view of this, Siglo XXI Dominican Airports (Aerodom) recommended that people who have pending flights for those days from or to the Dominican Republic, contact the airlines to verify the status of your flight .

“Storm warnings are in effect,” the National Hurricane Center stated in its bulletin.

Franklin continues to transit over warm waters of the Caribbean Sea, favoring marginal strengthening, but the trough through the southwestern Bahamas and east of Cuba, as well as dry air to the west, maintain unfavorable conditions for it to reach hurricane intensity before touching the Dominican territory.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 22, 2023, 10:56:13 AM
Tuesday August 22, 2023

11:53am the sky just opened up here in Sosua.   Moderate to Heavy Rain.   Looks like it could last all day. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 22, 2023, 02:31:22 PM
Tuesday August 22, 2023

3:30 PM partly cloudy here in Sosua.    28 degrees C,  dry, slightly breezy.  May have light sprinkles of rain depending on where you are.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 22, 2023, 05:18:14 PM
Had a video chat with a friend in Punta Cana this morning (8am AST) the rain was coming down in sheets and windy. The bulk of the storm will cut straight across the island from SD TO PP by early Wed. (2-3 am).
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 22, 2023, 06:55:54 PM
Tuesday August 22, 2023

7:45 PM, breezy, temp mild, dry.   

A weather graphic online is showing the potential for heavy rain starting around 4am Wed the 23rd and continue until 8pm.    The % of the potential for rain varies during that time frame.   This could mean that the storm may veer off and miss certain areas expecting heavy rain.

In Sosua most places to eat had already closed earlier this afternoon.   These are the restaurants that I had a chance to see were open when I passed by at 6pm and again at 7:30pm.    Dolce Sapori, Margot, Casa Valeria, Terra Linda.   

There may be others but most restaurants all over town was closed.   President Luis Abinader called off work for Tuesday, 22 August 2023 after 12pm.  And also on Wednesday, 23 August 2023 after a cabinet meeting at the Presidential Palace to decide on measures to mitigate the impact of Tropical Storm Franklin.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 22, 2023, 07:57:00 PM
Tuesday August 22, 2023

7:45 PM, breezy, temp mild, dry.   

A weather graphic online is showing the potential for heavy rain starting around 4am Wed the 23rd and continue until 8pm.    The % of the potential for rain varies during that time frame.   This could mean that the storm may veer off and miss certain areas expecting heavy rain.

In Sosua most places to eat had already closed earlier this afternoon.   These are the restaurants that I had a chance to see were open when I passed by at 6pm and again at 7:30pm.    Dolce Sapori, Margot, Casa Valeria, Terra Linda.   

There may be others but most restaurants all over town was closed.   President Luis Abinader called off work for Tuesday, 22 August 2023 after 12pm.  And also on Wednesday, 23 August 2023 after a cabinet meeting at the Presidential Palace to decide on measures to mitigate the impact of Tropical Storm Franklin.

And the creep cammers will still be on PC fliming available asses.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 22, 2023, 09:51:59 PM
Is this the Haitian guy that (most recently) used to hang around the Jamaican restaurant right down from New Garden? Part of his story was that he used to live in the states and pick vegetables in Indiana (or Iowa) til he got deported.


The one were talking about was also known for selling Spanish lesson cd's and book's.  And acted as a hustler.   Yes, he claimed to have lived in the states.   I personally dont know about him picking veggies in Indiana.  But he told me and others that he got caught selling drugs, and ended up getting deported from the US.   Im assuming to Haiti, and later on he made it to the DR.   

Thing is, everything Im saying is ACCORDING TO HIM.   I dont know which parts were fact and which parts were fiction.    His role in Sosua was to hustle to get paid.   Some of that involved lying and saying whatever he needed to say to sound convincing to whoever his target was.
ive know lionell snice 2013 hes been on the hustle for years. id always had him keep tabs on certain chicas id always threw him a few pesos,,
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 06:47:17 AM
Wednesday August 23, 2023

It's early, but my gut feeling is that this storm is just going to be a bad rainy day for most of the DR, and only severe or problematic for certain areas.    I dont believe the President needed to order businesses countrywide to close after 12pm yesterday.  I think he could have left that decision up to the businesses themselves, based on the current conditions.  Now for today?   That decision may be warranted. 

So far the previous weather graph I saw yesterday did not happen.   That graph showed that heavy rain was to start as of 4am last night, and end around 8pm.   It's 7:38am now and I dont recall it raining at all last night ( at least in my area of Sosua ).       The new graph shows rain starting at the 9am mark in Sosua.   And ending around the 8pm mark.

So technically, Sosua should see some rain before 12 noon today.   At the moment there is no rain, only a light breeze/wind, and it's pretty cloudy. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 23, 2023, 07:22:35 AM
They have already had over 5 inches of rain in Barahona where the storm made landfall and another 3+ expected. Santo Domingo is at about 3" and another 2" expected.

I think when the storm did start to head north it slowed right down (why we thought it would be here sometime yesterday) and that could be problematic with the amount of water that comes down as Franklin slowly moves across the country.

The north coast is on a tropical storm warning still, and most of the country is on a red level alert, oddly Puerto Plata is on yellow at the moment.

Not even a sprinkle in Sosua at 8:20, but I wont be putting my wellingtons away just yet.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 07:31:31 AM
Earlier this morning ( about 730am ) I was watching a DR news channel covering the weather in Azua.   The weather lady was covered in a big ass raincoat standing in a light rain.   Meanwhile a few cars and motos were passing by.   One guy in shorts and a T shirt ( no umbrella ) casually walked by her carrying groceries.   He seemed unfazed by the current weather conditions.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 09:12:36 AM
It's after 10am in Sosua.   Drove around a little.   I only felt drops of rain.  Margot restaurant was open for business, but they kinda made it look like they werent open.   Much easier for a hotel with a restaurant on premises to pull it off.   

Bailees looked closed.  But I believe Casa Valeria and Terra Linda restaurants may have been open.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 11:41:36 AM
12:35 PM and it's raining very lightly.  Gets heavier, and then goes back to light rain.  The breeze/wind is light here in Sosua.  No heavy storm or hurricane levels so far.   

A buddy of mine whose family is vacationing in Santiago said it was just very cloudy at the moment where they are now.    My buddies flight from the US was delayed earlier, but he should be boarding soon, and on his way to STI within the hour.   

Another buddy forwarded a video of conditions in SD.   Heavier rain there.  The wind there seems sort of calm.   Maybe things will pick up there within the next few hours.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 04:38:10 PM
5:30pm and Hurricane Franklin in Sosua is a wet noodle.   

Light rain, and no wind, cloudy.   Minimal flooding in the usual areas of Sosua.  Thats it.  Only restaurant I noticed that was open was Margots.   The dining area was full of customers.   

My buddy landed safely into STI from the US.   He is in his prearranged taxi and on his way to Sosua.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 23, 2023, 04:58:35 PM
The folklore that the North Coast does not get the bad weather lives on.

Shocked actually, i am a storm watcher and I expected... something. 

Nothing against the forecasters or folks who decided that today was a no work day but... wow.

That said, I know they got their ass handed to them in Baharona and parts of the south coast up to Costanza, hope all affected get through safely.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 23, 2023, 05:18:26 PM
The folklore that the North Coast does not get the bad weather lives on.

Shocked actually, i am a storm watcher and I expected... something. 

Nothing against the forecasters or folks who decided that today was a no work day but... wow.

That said, I know they got their ass handed to them in Baharona and parts of the south coast up to Costanza, hope all affected get through safely.

No doubt the south got hit. I saw a Meme of a Noah's Ark being built on Churchill in SD.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on August 23, 2023, 06:35:00 PM
Thank god Super Pola opened today here in Sosua or we’d have been shit out of luck. All the local comalos and Playero were all shuttered. We’ve been shut down since yesterday and I’ve seen no more than light rain. I’m glad to have been disappointed.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 23, 2023, 08:20:55 PM
side Note any one agree the strip is looking shabby and dirty ?, side walks dirty the dark strectch past bar cebtral shitty side walks across from bialies, even some of resteraunts shabby looking run down  thought sosua was geting its act together !!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 23, 2023, 08:55:11 PM
side Note any one agree the strip is looking shabby and dirty ?, side walks dirty the dark strectch past bar cebtral shitty side walks across from bialies, even some of resteraunts shabby looking run down  thought sosua was geting its act together !!!

Side note to the side note... First, agreed.

But anyone notice what is happening on the Martinez and Duarte strip? It is certainly getting better. Tropical Mango opened a year or so ago, it's nice. Sky lounge at Sosua Inn, the Conti coffeeshop, new spa' next to Santana and a new barber shop across from that, there is a nice new bar fronting the parkette  and a major renovation underway that looks like it could be a bar between the the park and Santana.

There is also a big renovation happening on Rosen, is that Rocky's? Sharks? Something New?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 08:55:51 PM
Thank god Super Pola opened today here in Sosua or we’d have been shit out of luck. All the local comalos and Playero were all shuttered. We’ve been shut down since yesterday and I’ve seen no more than light rain. I’m glad to have been disappointed.
Actually the Latino Market on Alejo Martinez by Infinity Blue, was open all day, and open now ( 9:53pm ).  And DelaCruz supermercardo on Pedro Clisante was open all day.   I happen to go in earlier, but the lines were too long.  Spoke to the owner briefly, and he said they were closing tonight at 11pm.    Margot's restaurant is open now ( 9:54 pm )
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 23, 2023, 09:06:18 PM
While out and about this evening, I noticed about 3 dozen chicks scattered around looking for work.  Some walking solo around the strip, some down towards New Garden.   Some across from NG, and some hanging around Tiki Wiki ( formerly Chez Montreal restaurant ) on the corner.   Some on motos scooting around looking for clients.

Some in the vicinity of the Latino Market.   Some near hotel Europa.    IMO, they all seemed rachet like.   Like they were the skeleton crew on duty due to the weather.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 23, 2023, 09:40:47 PM
While out and about this evening, I noticed about 3 dozen chicks scattered around looking for work.  Some walking solo around the strip, some down towards New Garden.   Some across from NG, and some hanging around Tiki Wiki ( formerly Chez Montreal restaurant ) on the corner.   Some on motos scooting around looking for clients.

Some in the vicinity of the Latino Market.   Some near hotel Europa.    IMO, they all seemed rachet like.   Like they were the skeleton crew on duty due to the weather.   
Key word skeleton Crew !if you had to look in there eyes soul less  ! desperate times call for desperat mesures,,, i bet many big cities in the USA going to see a lot more street whores to make ends meet or to feed the habit,, Sure is nice with the southern borders wide open  and the fentonal exspress !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 29, 2023, 08:41:31 PM
While out and about this evening, I noticed about 3 dozen chicks scattered around looking for work.  Some walking solo around the strip, some down towards New Garden.   Some across from NG, and some hanging around Tiki Wiki ( formerly Chez Montreal restaurant ) on the corner.   Some on motos scooting around looking for clients.

Some in the vicinity of the Latino Market.   Some near hotel Europa.    IMO, they all seemed rachet like.   Like they were the skeleton crew on duty due to the weather.   
Key word skeleton Crew !if you had to look in there eyes soul less  ! desperate times call for desperat mesures,,, i bet many big cities in the USA going to see a lot more street whores to make ends meet or to feed the habit,, Sure is nice with the southern borders wide open  and the fentonal exspress !

Because I know you can take a joke I'll say it.

It's always the Fox News MAGA crowd that's chasing said 3rd world pussy while overstaying their visas that's worried about the boarder.


Again low key a joke and i do care about the border as the child of Legal migrants myself  but I can't unsee the irony.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 29, 2023, 08:57:10 PM
For shits and grins type in Kenisington  street ,Philadelphia you tube  , this is exsibit A for the cartel exspress, drugs across the open boders, even if your a democrat how can things get this bad in the USA !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 29, 2023, 11:44:01 PM
For shits and grins type in Kenisington  street ,Philadelphia you tube  , this is exsibit A for the cartel exspress, drugs across the open boders, even if your a democrat how can things get this bad in the USA !

Philly is just the new ground zero, before that it was Balitmore and before that it was Hunts Point in the Bronx.  Everytime I heard a countryboy slobber over a Picture of JLo I thought about Puerto Rican Lorena from Lowell Mass. who was the first person I heard of who was a passport sis for Heroin.  She OD'ed ( didn't die though)  in the bathroom of this PR club/ restaurant near Spofford Ave in the Bronx.

Tug you're probably a lifelong Democrat and already mailed in your vote for Biden.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 30, 2023, 12:01:19 AM
Nah i voted for the orange man ,trying to go easy on the democrats or the folks that voted for biden . any ways back to toto
Hunting !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 30, 2023, 01:44:33 PM
Tug, sorry you won't get to vote for the orange man in 2024.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 30, 2023, 01:48:03 PM
Nah i voted for the orange man ,trying to go easy on the democrats or the folks that voted for biden . any ways back to toto
Hunting !

f--k it let's go there was the presidency stolen or not?

You plan on voting for him in the general?

Do you expect Biden to be imprisioned for usurping the presidency?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 30, 2023, 02:02:36 PM
All good questions that need to be addressed. I read some where a convicted felon can not run for office.Is this true?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 30, 2023, 02:36:43 PM
All good questions that need to be addressed. I read some where a convicted felon can not run for office.Is this true?

That is not true. Nothing in the constitutions states that a felon can not run nor hold office.

But...

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


He may be disqualified for participating in the insurrection. You know the one where over a thousand people were charged, hundreds were jailed, and more than a few have been convicted of seditious conspiracy and facing long sentences. Some of them may have an opinion about whether or not he was involved.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on August 30, 2023, 03:38:28 PM
All good questions that need to be addressed. I read some where a convicted felon can not run for office.Is this true?

That is not true. Nothing in the constitutions states that a felon can not run nor hold office.

But...

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


He may be disqualified for participating in the insurrection. You know the one where over a thousand people were charged, hundreds were jailed, and more than a few have been convicted of seditious conspiracy and facing long sentences. Some of them may have an opinion about whether or not he was involved.

There was no “insurrection” that Trump participated in or directed.

His video and tweet telling everyone to stay and remain peaceful was removed from Twitter by Twitter’s liberal Democrat censors at the time. This is fact.

Another fact is that there’s hours and hours of video footage inside of the Capitol showing Capitol officers literally HOLDING doors OPEN for protestors to waltz in. We’ve all seen it. Does that look or sound like an insurrection to you? Come on, bro. 😆
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on August 30, 2023, 03:44:37 PM
OK, but would you want a felon as your President? How could the Christian Republicans justify the  immorality of a man like this, it's just mind boggling, a person with such low moral standards should not represent your country.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 30, 2023, 04:11:06 PM
Nah i voted for the orange man ,trying to go easy on the democrats or the folks that voted for biden . any ways back to toto
Hunting !

f--k it let's go there was the presidency stolen or not?

You plan on voting for him in the general?

Do you expect Biden to be imprisioned for usurping the presidency?
Dont think bidens going to last 6 months he going to be like mitch McConnell all frozen up, we should be woried about Kamila !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on August 30, 2023, 04:14:32 PM
All good questions that need to be addressed. I read some where a convicted felon can not run for office.Is this true?

That is not true. Nothing in the constitutions states that a felon can not run nor hold office.

But...

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


He may be disqualified for participating in the insurrection. You know the one where over a thousand people were charged, hundreds were jailed, and more than a few have been convicted of seditious conspiracy and facing long sentences. Some of them may have an opinion about whether or not he was involved.

There was no “insurrection” that Trump participated in or directed.

His video and tweet telling everyone to stay and remain peaceful was removed from Twitter by Twitter’s liberal Democrat censors at the time. This is fact.

Another fact is that there’s hours and hours of video footage inside of the Capitol showing Capitol officers literally HOLDING doors OPEN for protestors to waltz in. We’ve all seen it. Does that look or sound like an insurrection to you? Come on, bro. 😆
Didnt Booze Bag pelosi refuse exsta security Nah the insurection was from George Sorros thugs !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 30, 2023, 04:32:58 PM
A mind is a terrible thing to waste...

Yes, you election deniers and insurrectionists prefer to refer to the rebellion (i will give you this one) "The Capitol Riots" as a peaceful tourist visit. What about the 3 police officers who died following the riot, the two folks who had heart attacks that day, the woman who was crushed? Ask the woman who was shot as she broke through the window which was the last line of defence of the elected officials. The entire thing was engineered to inturupt official proceedings, but you have drank too much Kool-Aid.

Take your head back of the sand and go volunteer for the GOP and get the clown who has no path to the White House out of the way so that you can put someone up who can actually beat Biden in 2024.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Atlas1976 on August 30, 2023, 05:34:16 PM
Can we get back to current observations on the strip/pc please?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Coochie93 on August 30, 2023, 06:16:30 PM
Can we get back to current observations on the strip/pc please?

exactly lmao! dudes in a foreign country worrying about political discourse
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on August 30, 2023, 06:34:39 PM
Can we get back to current observations on the strip/pc please?

what do you want to discuss?  Where the hoes at? we all know where they are at this point shit is like a conversation in rumbas it's about everything and nothing
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 30, 2023, 07:14:47 PM
Ive been out on the strip a few nights this week.  Except for some having nice bodies,  and being cute, many of these chicks are not very inspiring for me to want to hire them.  I would need 6 months leave from Sosua so I can come back thirsty, and maybe I might be inclined to waste money on some these mutant streetwalkers.


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on August 31, 2023, 05:37:12 AM
If I vote I don't it would be for Trump. Yea Sousa is trash you gotta hunt to damn hard to find just a decent chick. A bunch of fools go now and they  still think it's great I'm on a group chat and some dumb ass said 7000 pesos for 24 hours is a bargain.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: alexis on August 31, 2023, 05:43:24 AM
If I vote I don't it would be for Trump. Yea Sousa is trash you got hunt to damn hard to find just a decent chick. A bunch of fools go now and they  still think it's great I'm on a group chat and some dumb ass said 7000 pesos for 24 hours is a bargain.

This sounds crazy! The part about 7000 pesos (he really must be a dumb ass!) not the part about Trump.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on August 31, 2023, 07:24:58 AM
What's crazy (Did WT3 spell doubt wrong, or miss a comma?) is that 4 years ago guys on here were raving about Pica Flor. I stopped in to both locations but never pulled anything because... i felt $7000 was out of my budget.

The rates were $100 ST and $150 24hrs and plenty of folks on here were fine with that. Yes the girls were above average when the spot was in Cabarete, and when it first opened in Sosua, but after a while the very plain girls that sat all day in Rumba, just migrated to the back of Pica Flor and sat all day.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on August 31, 2023, 09:24:32 AM
If I vote I don't it would be for Trump. Yea Sousa is trash you gotta hunt to damn hard to find just a decent chick. A bunch of fools go now and they  still think it's great I'm on a group chat and some dumb ass said 7000 pesos for 24 hours is a bargain.

No. 7000 pesos for all day IS a bargain in the year 2023. The problem with a lot of you guys is that you still think you should be paying the same rates you were paying back in 2010, lol.

You’re not being realistic if you think you should pay an ST rate for an all day arrangement. That’s fantasy-land crazy, unless you and that particular chica already had a longstanding relationship arrangement or, you’re dealing with bottom of the barrel rat trash.

Generally speaking, no attractive chica rated 7 or above is staying with anyone all day for less than 5500 pesos if that’s what you’re implying. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 31, 2023, 09:26:42 AM
If I vote I don't it would be for Trump. Yea Sousa is trash you gotta hunt to damn hard to find just a decent chick. A bunch of fools go now and they  still think it's great I'm on a group chat and some dumb ass said 7000 pesos for 24 hours is a bargain.
Sosua is trash mainly because it's hard to find a decent chick?    Your angst is duly noted.  But I wouldnt go so far as to label a destination/location as trash just because it's hard to find a decent woman.   



 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on August 31, 2023, 10:22:29 AM
If I vote I don't it would be for Trump. Yea Sousa is trash you gotta hunt to damn hard to find just a decent chick. A bunch of fools go now and they  still think it's great I'm on a group chat and some dumb ass said 7000 pesos for 24 hours is a bargain.

No. 7000 pesos for all day IS a bargain in the year 2023. The problem with a lot of you guys is that you still think you should be paying the same rates you were paying back in 2010, lol.

You’re not being realistic if you think you should pay an ST rate for an all day arrangement. That’s fantasy-land crazy, unless you and that particular chica already had a longstanding relationship arrangement or, you’re dealing with bottom of the barrel rat trash.

Generally speaking, no attractive chica rated 7 or above is staying with anyone all day for less than 5500 pesos if that’s what you’re implying.
The thing is, chicks mentalities and circumstances have evolved over the years.  Now, many chicks are more about maximizing their income, focused mainly on getting the most from their encounters. 

Their aim is to work less ( mostly ST sessions, hit or miss performance ) and get paid more.  Or put in the extra time ( TLN or long term arrangements ) as long as they think the job pays enough to make it worth their while.   

Back in the day, women in the p4p game seemed to be more humble, even in business.  More willing to negotiate and more willing to seal a deal with a potential client.   More appreciative of getting to enjoy the side benefits that came with being around a gringo.   

His room or hotel accommodations, her meals and drinks, him paying for her transport, giving her chump change to buy shit with ( cell phone credit,  salon, groceries), doing enough to hopefully get rehired etc.   

But now?   These muggs are on the clock for everything.  Quality of service is a hit or miss.  Even with just stopping them to have a conversation, you can tell that their meters are running.  Many dont want to invest time stopping to talk.   All they are interested in is getting hired and getting the money, so they can get back on the street.   

Many guys follow suit.  They are going right for the price the moment they stop a chick.  I have seen guys flat out ask a chick out loud, how much?  Then take the chicks number.   The p4p scene exchange looks pretty bad, right about now. Enough guys know enough not to let chicks sit down next to them, because they know these chicks do not appreciate kind gestures.       

 



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 04, 2023, 06:41:08 PM
Another one bites the dust? 

Several reports are circulating saying that the magic man El Mago died recently.   People are  dropping left and right.  Are people even a little bit curious or concerned as to why so many people are sick and dying all around us?    Is this the new normal?

Ive been hearing of many stories of people who lost current and ex co workers/friends and family.  And of course we hear about people we dont even know.    Many of them are not even elderly. 

Somebody sent me a pic of another guy that died recently.  He was from the US and was a Sosua regular.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on September 05, 2023, 09:27:13 AM
El Mago was a fixture on the beach ... he was a kind a funny man.
But the thing is: people may look like they are healthy but aren't. You probably know that most dominicans, especially the poorest ones, they don't go to the clinic to get their health checked yearly. They go to see a doctor when something is wrong or they feel sick.
So many older dominicans may look healthy but in reality, they have undiagnosed health problems that can lead to sudden death by stroke or something related to hearth disease.
Most of them had never had real ealthy food to eat ...  they eat lots and lots of deep fried food.
They only die like our elders were dying 60 years ago from the lack of preventive actions regarding their health.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: alexis on September 05, 2023, 10:58:09 AM
El Mago was a fixture on the beach ... he was a kind a funny man.
But the thing is: people may look like they are healthy but aren't. You probably know that most dominicans, especially the poorest ones, they don't go to the clinic to get their health checked yearly. They go to see a doctor when something is wrong or they feel sick.
So many older dominicans may look healthy but in reality, they have undiagnosed health problems that can lead to sudden death by stroke or something related to hearth disease.
Most of them had never had real ealthy food to eat ...  they eat lots and lots of deep fried food.
They only die like our elders were dying 60 years ago from the lack of preventive actions regarding their health.

Indeed, you are right. And El Mago was smoking every day all day. At some point that probably catches up on you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on September 05, 2023, 12:36:56 PM
The lives of Dominicans are hard lives lived, by most. They work hard and love to party, so most men don't get to 65-70. Case in point: I went with my chica to her fathers 60th,I was 65,he looked much older than me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 05, 2023, 02:49:01 PM
 Stigu .Well thats good news in a way,meaning since were the elders in this forum and have at least been to a docter patched up and can live a few more years  cut back on booze and smokeing any hard drugs, try and eat healthy food,( Pussy Is good food ) possible live a long life,as far as the locals some live hard lives, an other topic how long can hoes survive ? think there one or 2 in there 50s still working the strip !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on September 05, 2023, 03:47:45 PM
NONE, most in their 35-50 aged out of the street game (if their smart). They post up at a few spots on there time off from real jobs to earn on the side. These semi's are what I hunt, you will not find them up town where the prices are high.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 07, 2023, 03:15:52 PM
Wednesday Sept 6th 2023

4 of us had lunch at the Haitian restaurant on the beach.  Caseta#93.   

2 of us had the Jerk Turkey.  Came with peas and rice, plantains and a Coleslaw looking garnishment.

One guy had the 1lb Red Snapper with the same sides as us above.

And the 4th guy had the Macaroni & Cheese Penne Pasta with small pieces of Ground Beef in it. 

1st the pros :

Each of us liked the taste of our food, except the one that had the pasta dish.  There was no cheese in the dish, even though it says macaroni and cheese on the menu.     I had the Jerk Turkey, and I did like the flavor of the sauce on the meat.   The rice had a nice flavor but different taste ( different not necessarily better ) than much of the Dominican peas and rice dishes I have had.   All of us that had the rice were in agreement.

The dude who had the fish came slightly after we got there.  So his entire order was nice and hot when it came to the table.    Ya'll see where this is going, right?   

They only charged 10% taxes on the bill, so that was cool.    3 of us knew not to order any beverages.   200 pesos for a Gatorade?   And it's only 80 or 90 pesos at the little colmado on the beach.  No thanks.   

Now the cons :

The meals for the 3 of us was pre-arranged with the owner around 2PM.   So that he would have ample time to prepare our food, so that we wouldnt have to wait too long to enjoy it.   IMO, I didnt see anything special about our order, that required extra time to prepare.   

What I think happened, is that the guy didnt want to start cooking the main dishes until we actually were there.   So we get there at 3:40pm, and get the food about 4:50pm.   The owner was never present while we were there. 

Thick Haitian waitress who was working there, had a stank attitude.   The Haitian waiter had a better attitude, but he was useless in resolving an issue.   Everybody's food was cold except the dude who had the Red Snapper, and ordered his food upon arrival.   It's almost as if our food had been sitting on a counter the whole time, until they decided to bring it out.   

When we brought that issue to his attention, he just listened and didnt do anything to make it right.   Me and the dude that had the Jerk Turkey found the 2 fried plantains and the coleslaw inedible.     The Jerk Turkey meals were not worth 900 pesos IMO.   The meat was semi tender.   And one piece had no meat, it was just bone and gristle.   

Later that evening the main guy that arranged this meal with the owner, told the owner about our experience.  The only response was, "Im sorry."    Im sure this wasnt the first time they disappointed a customer.   There are two other Haitian restaurants flanking this place.  Finger Finger is on the left.   The other is on the right.   I wouldnt be surprised having the same experience with them. 

So I paid 1200 pesos total, which included a propina.   Realistically, I could have got a Dominican meal from one of my spots down the highway near Ocean Village.   They serve tender turkey meat, similar rice and peas with salad for only 175 pesos.   

And for 100 pesos more you can add more meat.     Patronizing some of the places on the beach is definitely a tourist ripoff.    Josélitos#66 restaurant charging my buddy 400 pesos for a Cuba Libre.  Ridiculous.   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: nacho on September 07, 2023, 03:59:18 PM
Not sure if I am referring to the same place or one beside, but recently I bumped into a chica I used to know, and I bought her a small presidente light.....I got charged $250 pesos. Holy shit I paid and left. My usual spot at Oso Polar, #106 charges that or less for a grande. Some spots are hosing the customers, and so tough shit if they get bulldozed. Although unfortunately the beach ambiance will be gone if that happens.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 07, 2023, 05:03:19 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention.  The Red Snapper was 1100 pesos at that Haitian restaurant.   Everywhere else on the beach sells a 1lb Red Snapper meal for 850 to 900 pesos.   And they give you more food with the fish.    There is nothing special about the Haitian guys Red Snapper to warrant 1100 pesos.   

Aris Restaurant#67, has a 2 for 1 special.  You can get two smaller Red Snapper fish that adds up to one pound.   The sides that come with the meal is plenty.   You can get two meals out of one order.   And Aris only charges 10% taxes on the bill. 

Another thing I like about Aris, is that if you order cocktails, they give it to you in a nice sized glass, full.    Across from Aris is Mofongo King restaurant#74.   They have cut back on portions of food and how they serve all of their beverages.   

With their one pound Red Snapper fish meal, I think Mofongo Kings price is the same or slightly higher than Aris', but now they only give you one side with your meal.  And the portion of that side is noticeably small.   When it comes to cocktails and soft drinks like lemonade or juices, they either dont fill the glass to the top, or they give you a lot of ice in it, or a smaller glass.     

Side Note!  The meal at Aris comes with 2 sides.  The Rice and the salad.   The broccoli in the photo was extra ( I think 150 pesos more ).   But if I wanted broccoli and rice, or salad and broccoli, that combination could be my two sides to go with the fish.   The habichuela ( beans ) comes with the rice if requested. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 07, 2023, 05:59:56 PM
Everything across the board has gone up food booze chicas,  Sosua anit cheap any more, bet expats be buying beers at local colmodos and skip eating out,,, have you notice chicas bitching not enough money for food haha !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 07, 2023, 07:26:56 PM
Everything across the board has gone up food booze chicas,  Sosua anit cheap any more, bet expats be buying beers at local colmodos and skip eating out,,, have you notice chicas bitching not enough money for food haha !
I can still dine out and find decent prices.   I try to avoid places that charge 18% to 28% taxes on the bill.   I think a lot of people may think it's the price of food where establishments may make most of their money.   

But more and more I feel establishments are making a killing when it comes to serving beverages/drinks.  Especially in glasses.   The heavy use of ice is one of the most common ways restaurants and bars make a killing.    You can fill a glass or cup with ice, and pour only 3 to 4 ounces of any beverage you want, and nobody will pay attention to that.   Dress it up with a lime, and some tissue.    4 or 5 sips later and it's gone.

Then they serve everything in smaller glasses filled with ice.   You pay for a few sips of a beverage, end up buying more drinks to satisfy yourself.       

On the beach , I can go to the little colmado there and buy natural juices, Gatorade, alcohol etc.   Order food at an establishment, and provide my own drinks.   The reason why I dont see that as a problem is because everywhere you look, food vendors try to sell their food and snacks at almost every restaurant they pass.   

If the restaurants can put up with people selling food, the restaurant should be able to tolerate a customer bringing his own beverages to their restaurant ( at the beach.) as long as they are buying food too.   I will usually buy at least one beverage where I eat at. 

Now if, I need some ice for my outside drinks.  I dont have a problem paying for the ice and tipping them slightly extra for their service.         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 08, 2023, 02:16:44 AM
Odd goings on in Sosua. More and more guys appear to be going back to their spots solo. My read is that quality combined with price of chicas has dropped below the acceptable level for some guys. Lots of girls on the street tonight spawning limited interest.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 08, 2023, 04:37:26 AM
Odd goings on in Sosua. More and more guys appear to be going back to their spots solo. My read is that quality combined with price of chicas has dropped below the acceptable level for some guys. Lots of girls on the street tonight spawning limited interest.
Funny you should say that Jazzy.   I have said things similar.   But the p4p scene in Sosua has always ebbed and flowed like waves at the beach.   One day, night or week you see mostly low quality chicks on patrol looking for work.  Some of these chicks be expecting or demanding 4000 and up for an hour.  And it appears that nobody is hiring them.

And then on another day, night or week, it can be a whole different show/vibe.   A whole variety and selection of chicks might be in Sosua looking for work. And the guys who happen to be in Sosua at that time, may have a totally different perspective about Sosua and the chicas, than the guys that were in Sosua when the scene and the chicas were a major disappointment to them.   

Another thing you already know.  When some guys have come here long enough, and experienced the same BS from many of these chicas, they pass that information and intel to other guys they know.  That can and has had a ripple effect on why a lot of chicks are not getting hired.   Or being hired a lot less




       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on September 08, 2023, 06:21:22 AM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention.  The Red Snapper was 1100 pesos at that Haitian restaurant.   Everywhere else on the beach sells a 1lb Red Snapper meal for 850 to 900 pesos.   And they give you more food with the fish.    There is nothing special about the Haitian guys Red Snapper to warrant 1100 pesos.   

Aris Restaurant#67, has a 2 for 1 special.  You can get two smaller Red Snapper fish that adds up to one pound.   The sides that come with the meal is plenty.   You can get two meals out of one order.   And Aris only charges 10% taxes on the bill. 

Another thing I like about Aris, is that if you order cocktails, they give it to you in a nice sized glass, full.    Across from Aris is Mofongo King restaurant#74.   They have cut back on portions of food and how they serve all of their beverages.   

With their one pound Red Snapper fish meal, I think Mofongo Kings price is the same or slightly higher than Aris', but now they only give you one side with your meal.  And the portion of that side is noticeably small.   When it comes to cocktails and soft drinks like lemonade or juices, they either dont fill the glass to the top, or they give you a lot of ice in it, or a smaller glass.     

Side Note!  The meal at Aris comes with 2 sides.  The Rice and the salad.   The broccoli in the photo was extra ( I think 150 pesos more ).   But if I wanted broccoli and rice, or salad and broccoli, that combination could be my two sides to go with the fish.   The habichuela ( beans ) comes with the rice if requested.

Every time I’m sitting at the Mofongo King, there’s seem to always a group of dudes sitting at Aris ,with the Bluetooth speaker blasting loud music to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear them! It’s so annoying as f--k!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 08, 2023, 09:17:17 AM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention.  The Red Snapper was 1100 pesos at that Haitian restaurant.   Everywhere else on the beach sells a 1lb Red Snapper meal for 850 to 900 pesos.   And they give you more food with the fish.    There is nothing special about the Haitian guys Red Snapper to warrant 1100 pesos.   

Aris Restaurant#67, has a 2 for 1 special.  You can get two smaller Red Snapper fish that adds up to one pound.   The sides that come with the meal is plenty.   You can get two meals out of one order.   And Aris only charges 10% taxes on the bill. 

Another thing I like about Aris, is that if you order cocktails, they give it to you in a nice sized glass, full.    Across from Aris is Mofongo King restaurant#74.   They have cut back on portions of food and how they serve all of their beverages.   

With their one pound Red Snapper fish meal, I think Mofongo Kings price is the same or slightly higher than Aris', but now they only give you one side with your meal.  And the portion of that side is noticeably small.   When it comes to cocktails and soft drinks like lemonade or juices, they either dont fill the glass to the top, or they give you a lot of ice in it, or a smaller glass.     

Side Note!  The meal at Aris comes with 2 sides.  The Rice and the salad.   The broccoli in the photo was extra ( I think 150 pesos more ).   But if I wanted broccoli and rice, or salad and broccoli, that combination could be my two sides to go with the fish.   The habichuela ( beans ) comes with the rice if requested.

Every time I’m sitting at the Mofongo King, there’s seem to always a group of dudes sitting at Aris ,with the Bluetooth speaker blasting loud music to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear them! It’s so annoying as f--k!!
Bad timing for you obviously.   That problem is already solved for me.   If Im eating at Aris, there are usually no guys occupying the large table that I sit at.    It's only rare times, guys will show up to sit at the smaller table and blast their music.   

Even so, Joselito next door to Aris is known for playing their music loud, especially when large crowds show up.    Then on Sundays and holidays, the locals come with their blasting equipment.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on September 08, 2023, 12:58:25 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention.  The Red Snapper was 1100 pesos at that Haitian restaurant.   Everywhere else on the beach sells a 1lb Red Snapper meal for 850 to 900 pesos.   And they give you more food with the fish.    There is nothing special about the Haitian guys Red Snapper to warrant 1100 pesos.   

Aris Restaurant#67, has a 2 for 1 special.  You can get two smaller Red Snapper fish that adds up to one pound.   The sides that come with the meal is plenty.   You can get two meals out of one order.   And Aris only charges 10% taxes on the bill. 

Another thing I like about Aris, is that if you order cocktails, they give it to you in a nice sized glass, full.    Across from Aris is Mofongo King restaurant#74.   They have cut back on portions of food and how they serve all of their beverages.   

With their one pound Red Snapper fish meal, I think Mofongo Kings price is the same or slightly higher than Aris', but now they only give you one side with your meal.  And the portion of that side is noticeably small.   When it comes to cocktails and soft drinks like lemonade or juices, they either dont fill the glass to the top, or they give you a lot of ice in it, or a smaller glass.     

Side Note!  The meal at Aris comes with 2 sides.  The Rice and the salad.   The broccoli in the photo was extra ( I think 150 pesos more ).   But if I wanted broccoli and rice, or salad and broccoli, that combination could be my two sides to go with the fish.   The habichuela ( beans ) comes with the rice if requested.

Every time I’m sitting at the Mofongo King, there’s seem to always a group of dudes sitting at Aris ,with the Bluetooth speaker blasting loud music to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear them! It’s so annoying as f--k!!
Bad timing for you obviously.   That problem is already solved for me.   If Im eating at Aris, there are usually no guys occupying the large table that I sit at.    It's only rare times, guys will show up to sit at the smaller table and blast their music.   

Even so, Joselito next door to Aris is known for playing their music loud, especially when large crowds show up.    Then on Sundays and holidays, the locals come with their blasting equipment.

That restaurant next to Mofongo King that is separated by a exit passageway is Aris?? Or Joselito?? Which ever on that is, there’s seem to be a group of dudes with their females in tow blasting hip hop music to the highest volume.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 08, 2023, 01:36:40 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention.  The Red Snapper was 1100 pesos at that Haitian restaurant.   Everywhere else on the beach sells a 1lb Red Snapper meal for 850 to 900 pesos.   And they give you more food with the fish.    There is nothing special about the Haitian guys Red Snapper to warrant 1100 pesos.   

Aris Restaurant#67, has a 2 for 1 special.  You can get two smaller Red Snapper fish that adds up to one pound.   The sides that come with the meal is plenty.   You can get two meals out of one order.   And Aris only charges 10% taxes on the bill. 

Another thing I like about Aris, is that if you order cocktails, they give it to you in a nice sized glass, full.    Across from Aris is Mofongo King restaurant#74.   They have cut back on portions of food and how they serve all of their beverages.   

With their one pound Red Snapper fish meal, I think Mofongo Kings price is the same or slightly higher than Aris', but now they only give you one side with your meal.  And the portion of that side is noticeably small.   When it comes to cocktails and soft drinks like lemonade or juices, they either dont fill the glass to the top, or they give you a lot of ice in it, or a smaller glass.     

Side Note!  The meal at Aris comes with 2 sides.  The Rice and the salad.   The broccoli in the photo was extra ( I think 150 pesos more ).   But if I wanted broccoli and rice, or salad and broccoli, that combination could be my two sides to go with the fish.   The habichuela ( beans ) comes with the rice if requested.

Every time I’m sitting at the Mofongo King, there’s seem to always a group of dudes sitting at Aris ,with the Bluetooth speaker blasting loud music to the highest volume as if they want the entire Sosua beach to hear them! It’s so annoying as f--k!!
Bad timing for you obviously.   That problem is already solved for me.   If Im eating at Aris, there are usually no guys occupying the large table that I sit at.    It's only rare times, guys will show up to sit at the smaller table and blast their music.   

Even so, Joselito next door to Aris is known for playing their music loud, especially when large crowds show up.    Then on Sundays and holidays, the locals come with their blasting equipment.

That restaurant next to Mofongo King that is separated by a exit passageway is Aris?? Or Joselito?? Which ever on that is, there’s seem to be a group of dudes with their females in tow blasting hip hop music to the highest volume.
Aris #67 and Joselito #66 are both separated by the exit passageway.   Josélitos entrance is actually on the beach walking path, whereas Aris's entrance is on the exit passageway.    You have to pass Aris and MK bar to get to the stairs leading to the highway.       
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 08, 2023, 02:12:20 PM
While I’m definitely not at Aris’ every day I’ve never heard hip hop music while there. Funny thing is that last week when we had the discussion in another thread about hip hop in Sosua I spent three hours at Aris’ with friends and heard nothing, but classic Dominican/Latin music the entire time I was there played by the adjacent restaurant.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on September 08, 2023, 03:07:04 PM
While I’m definitely not at Aris’ every day I’ve never heard hip hop music while there. Funny thing is that last week when we had the discussion in another thread about hip hop in Sosua I spent three hours at Aris’ with friends and heard nothing, but classic Dominican/Latin music the entire time I was there played by the adjacent restaurant.

It's more the folks who bring a speaker, and it is more at the spot that has the tables on the beach that play drill and cloud crap that... I don't know, i must be old, but that shit is... shit.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: alexis on September 08, 2023, 03:57:21 PM
While I’m definitely not at Aris’ every day I’ve never heard hip hop music while there. Funny thing is that last week when we had the discussion in another thread about hip hop in Sosua I spent three hours at Aris’ with friends and heard nothing, but classic Dominican/Latin music the entire time I was there played by the adjacent restaurant.

It's more the folks who bring a speaker, and it is more at the spot that has the tables on the beach that play drill and cloud crap that... I don't know, i must be old, but that shit is... shit.

It usually starts Thursday or Friday when the crowd on the beach changes. And you are right, in that area of the beach you can’t escape that kind of music over the weekend.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on September 09, 2023, 06:23:09 AM
While I’m definitely not at Aris’ every day I’ve never heard hip hop music while there. Funny thing is that last week when we had the discussion in another thread about hip hop in Sosua I spent three hours at Aris’ with friends and heard nothing, but classic Dominican/Latin music the entire time I was there played by the adjacent restaurant.

Lucky you.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PMIdump on September 10, 2023, 09:52:00 AM
Love Aris place been going there almost 20 years. Scary thinking about how old we are all getting. This is my go to beach spot.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on September 11, 2023, 05:52:32 PM
Not sure if I am referring to the same place or one beside, but recently I bumped into a chica I used to know, and I bought her a small presidente light.....I got charged $250 pesos. Holy shit I paid and left. My usual spot at Oso Polar, #106 charges that or less for a grande. Some spots are hosing the customers, and so tough shit if they get bulldozed. Although unfortunately the beach ambiance will be gone if that happens.
HAAH, I love Oso Polar, Lulu is a great gal, and yes she has the lowest prices because she dose not sell food. You can bring food to her tables, and a drink , as long as you buy another.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 12, 2023, 05:08:15 AM
The Ambience ship sailed from the beach long time ago !Sosuas like a falling tide all boats grounded,,,looks what was fun and  gone ,in the last 10 years,  Passions fabulas bar and whore house with a take out menue, pica flow compound full of hoes, rancho tipico was a great spot d latins hot spot bar, bermuda bar, classico up stairs  Rumbas nothing like todays atmospheres many other fun small bars on Pc and the beach  bailees up fors sale mailbus beach bar sold and closed shop ,jolly roger for sale, bailees & matteos for sale,bye bye sosua !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 12, 2023, 05:17:53 AM
Contibuting factors, An anti hoe women mayor, then police crack downs shutting bars and clubs catering to mongers and hoes  also killed the night life, Covide pandemic, Global enconomic down fall, many factors that once wild party spot gone to the dogs,,,low level bottom of the barrel thieving chicas for the most part...the turmoil of the new beach plazas being built ect, unless your a vet or have some trusted chicas or civillians on your roster , the quality of chicas are the pitts, you might as well grab derilick chicas of the street like in keningston street philidelphia or like mass and cass in boston   !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: vacationtime on September 12, 2023, 08:50:48 AM
you are spot on tug. im thinking of a trip to pattaya
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on September 13, 2023, 03:44:14 PM
you are spot on tug. im thinking of a trip to pattaya
HAHAHA Tug will never leave Sousa!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 14, 2023, 07:49:44 PM
Somebody sent me a picture and story claiming The Playero supermercado was burglarized yesterday?   

From Detras Del Rumor :

ATTENTION SOSUA - HARD BLOW TO SUPER
Unknown people penetrated in the early hours of the morning today the facilities of the Playero Supermarket and broke a safe, taking cash.  And although the amount is  undetermined at the moment, it is known that it is a lot of money.
More to come soon...
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Dstm on September 14, 2023, 07:59:09 PM
Yes it was robbed nobody saying how much yet.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 14, 2023, 09:24:58 PM
You know things are getting worse and folks are desperate,,,   inside job hmmmmmmm !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on September 15, 2023, 04:48:08 PM
Dude ... the Playero is literally in the backyard of the policia nacional station  :o
Something's wrong with that robbery  ???
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 15, 2023, 05:21:36 PM
Dude ... the Playero is literally in the backyard of the policia nacional station :o
Something's wrong with that robbery  ???
I may be mistaken, but have the Police Nacional personnel moved their day to day operations back to where it was,  next door to the Playero?    If not, they are still operating at the station they erected on Avenida Alejo Martinez next to Infinity Blue.    If thats the case, thieves would easily be brazen enough to break into the Playero, or hide inside until everybody is gone.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 16, 2023, 12:21:38 PM
A SOSUA EXPAT    Link To Story In Post Below. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on September 16, 2023, 12:26:04 PM
A SOSUA EXPAT

Did he kill someone back home and ran to Sosua to hide out? In Creep cammer central?

Besides booty view vids True crime is the most popular genre on youtube if he is really in sosua being bopped on a bootyview vid will earn him a trip to bootyville
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 16, 2023, 12:39:21 PM
https://www.fox43.com/article/news/crime/homicide-lancaster-2009-arrest-carl-hunter/521-fde3ba19-d7f7-44ba-a9e5-f389fdaf03d4 (https://www.fox43.com/article/news/crime/homicide-lancaster-2009-arrest-carl-hunter/521-fde3ba19-d7f7-44ba-a9e5-f389fdaf03d4)



LANCASTER, Pa. — A man that was wanted for a 2009 homicide in Lancaster has been arrested in the Dominican Republic, and extradited back to Lancaster County to face charges.

Carl Hunter, 56, has been wanted since December 2009 on criminal conspiracy, manufacturing of a controlled substance and criminal homicide charges.

On Friday, December 18, 2009, police responded to a home in the 400 block of W. Lemon St. for a stabbing around 11:15 p.m.

The victim, Michael Evans, was found with a stab wound to the torso.

He was taken to a hospital for treatment but died as a result of his injuries.

The Lancaster County Coroner ruled Evans’ death as a homicide.

A warrant had been issued in 2009 for Hunter on the criminal conspiracy, manufacturing of a controlled substance charge, but he was not located or apprehended on that warrant.

An investigative grand jury, convened last year by Lancaster County District Attorney Craig Stedman, heard testimony on the case. The grand jury has subpoena power, but not indictment ability. In this case, the panel ultimately issued a presentment, or a recommendation that charges be filed based on testimony heard.

According to the presentment, Evans was killed amidst a marijuana grow operation involving himself and others. Police found marijuana plants at the West Lemon Street home, where Evans lived with a roommate.

Hunter went to the home on the night of Dec. 18, 2009, to discuss something with Evans regarding the grow operation. Hunter was an acquaintance of a female also involved in the grow operation.

During the discussion, Hunter stabbed Evans in the torso with a pair of scissors. Evans’ roommate was present and provided information.

Multiple individuals with knowledge of the incident and/or grow operation identified Hunter – known as “Low” – from a photo array.

It had been nearly 14 years, but now, Hunter is back in Lancaster County and will face charges.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: WT3 on September 16, 2023, 12:43:48 PM
Interesting I remember speaking with this guy briefly a few times over the years during my time there.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 16, 2023, 12:51:07 PM
Interesting I remember speaking with this guy briefly a few times over the years during my time there.
I saw him pretty much daily.  Either walking on the strip, or riding his pasola.  He wasnt very sociable or communicative.   I used to think he was anti social.    He would speak when spoken to or only a nod, but that was about it.   Maybe because of his past, he was trying not to get too close to people?   IDK, if I was on the run from the law, I would have chosen a different country to hide out in.  Including choosing a different continent, like Africa.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bravo1818 on September 16, 2023, 01:41:03 PM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 16, 2023, 02:22:50 PM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.

I’ve known C since he first arrived in Sosua. He was not antisocial.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 16, 2023, 02:44:12 PM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.

I’ve known C since he first arrived in Sosua. He was not antisocial.
If he's found guilty, convicted and imprisoned, being sociable wont be a problem. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 16, 2023, 02:52:15 PM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.

I’ve known C since he first arrived in Sosua. He was not antisocial.
If he's found guilty, convicted and imprisoned, being sociable wont be a problem.

What’s the real point you’re trying to make?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on September 16, 2023, 11:56:36 PM
How did he move from Rio to the DR especially in small town Sosua? Dude must have filmed hundteds if not thoudands of times.

Youd think hed go to Africa and cross his fingers thst he wouldnt pop up on cameras.

Dont know shit about him but with all those Dominicanos in that McDonalds in Inwood and he thinks theres not a great working relationship and apprehension appartus?


Thats like trying to hide out in Jamaica.

I guess even hes surprised that he was able to be on the run so long I guess he decided before he got a train ran up his ass hed crash for gash.

I guess if Tug thinks dying on top of a fat rat is the way to go I guess whale hunting for a while is worth a lifetime in a cell married to your hand.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 12:07:23 AM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.

I’ve known C since he first arrived in Sosua. He was not antisocial.
If he's found guilty, convicted and imprisoned, being sociable wont be a problem.

What’s the real point you’re trying to make?
If you want an answer, whats in it for me?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 12:26:15 AM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.
Even before this story emerged, Ive heard other guys claim that he acted like he was anti social or aloof.  Thats not to say, that he was like that with each and every living being 24/7.   

But for enough individuals who have encountered this cat in casual settings or just in passing, thats typically how he represented himself publicly.   How he interacted with others when he flipped a switch is moot. 

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on September 17, 2023, 08:30:01 AM
You can see the guy is not the brightest ... why he did not chose a country with no extradition with the US??
There are a couple in South America  ::)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 17, 2023, 09:32:01 AM
You can see the guy is not the brightest ... why he did not chose a country with no extradition with the US??
There are a couple in South America  ::)

What countries might those be?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Travelguy90 on September 17, 2023, 10:02:33 AM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.
Even before this story emerged, Ive heard other guys claim that he acted like he was anti social or aloof.  Thats not to say, that he was like that with each and every living being 24/7.   

But for enough individuals who have encountered this cat in casual settings or just in passing, thats typically how he represented himself publicly.   How he interacted with others when he flipped a switch is moot.
Was he antisocial as in being withdrawn and to himself, not extroverted? I mean i would likely not was to become a popular person, and instead just be another background face if on the run. No need for people to look into you, try digging for personal information, etc… likely how he managed to stay hidden in plain site. If he were like Miko and on front street, he’d have gotten caught up earlier.

If he was antisocial as in the DSM-V definition, he might be stupid. That type of antisocial personality is characterized by infringement on the rights of others. You’d be making yourself a target or at least more known than you want to be.

I can see living in sosua and having minimum interactions with folks. It takes a few days and annoyances before you shut down, depending on your personality. You have no issues or stress, it’s just easier to ignore people and their BS if you keep moving ahead with headphones on blocking out the outside
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 12:44:27 PM
You can see the guy is not the brightest ... why he did not chose a country with no extradition with the US??
There are a couple in South America  ::)
FWIW.   This is unconfirmed, but I was told that where he lived, there was a suspicious official looking SUV vehicle in the vicinity of where he lived with individuals sitting in it.   He was made aware of this.  I dont know if he noticed the vehicle himself, or others made the observation and shared it with him?     

According to the source, he left the premises through the back.   Went to the gym like he normally would do, and supposedly got apprehended when he returned to the crib later.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 12:55:12 PM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.
Even before this story emerged, Ive heard other guys claim that he acted like he was anti social or aloof.  Thats not to say, that he was like that with each and every living being 24/7.   

But for enough individuals who have encountered this cat in casual settings or just in passing, thats typically how he represented himself publicly.   How he interacted with others when he flipped a switch is moot.
Was he antisocial as in being withdrawn and to himself, not extroverted? I mean i would likely not was to become a popular person, and instead just be another background face if on the run. No need for people to look into you, try digging for personal information, etc… likely how he managed to stay hidden in plain site. If he were like Miko and on front street, he’d have gotten caught up earlier.

If he was antisocial as in the DSM-V definition, he might be stupid. That type of antisocial personality is characterized by infringement on the rights of others. You’d be making yourself a target or at least more known than you want to be.

I can see living in sosua and having minimum interactions with folks. It takes a few days and annoyances before you shut down, depending on your personality. You have no issues or stress, it’s just easier to ignore people and their BS if you keep moving ahead with headphones on blocking out the outside
Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him.  Him being on the run, his aloof or assumed anti social behavior makes perfect sense.    It just so happens, that enough people I knew and myself felt that he was kinda standoffish.   Aloof.   

Others have said he did engage them in small talk.   Ive had brief exchanges as well.   But it took years for that to happen.   When he 1st came on the scene, he was a lot more aloof or anti social.   Would barely greet if passing by.   May reply to a greeting, but I didnt expect him to initiate a greeting.   Im assuming after seeing some people here for a number of years, he started to open up more.   

I have been here long enough not to be surprised in finding out that some expats living here have something going on that they are hiding from, or they cant go back to where they came from.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 17, 2023, 01:10:59 PM
He used to live in Rio de Janeiro before he moved to the DR, I used to see him all the time.   Members are correct when they say he was anti social and didnt speak to anyone.
Even before this story emerged, Ive heard other guys claim that he acted like he was anti social or aloof.  Thats not to say, that he was like that with each and every living being 24/7.   

But for enough individuals who have encountered this cat in casual settings or just in passing, thats typically how he represented himself publicly.   How he interacted with others when he flipped a switch is moot.
Was he antisocial as in being withdrawn and to himself, not extroverted? I mean i would likely not was to become a popular person, and instead just be another background face if on the run. No need for people to look into you, try digging for personal information, etc… likely how he managed to stay hidden in plain site. If he were like Miko and on front street, he’d have gotten caught up earlier.

If he was antisocial as in the DSM-V definition, he might be stupid. That type of antisocial personality is characterized by infringement on the rights of others. You’d be making yourself a target or at least more known than you want to be.

I can see living in sosua and having minimum interactions with folks. It takes a few days and annoyances before you shut down, depending on your personality. You have no issues or stress, it’s just easier to ignore people and their BS if you keep moving ahead with headphones on blocking out the outside
Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him.  Him being on the run, his aloof or assumed anti social behavior makes perfect sense.    It just so happens, that enough people I knew and myself felt that he was kinda standoffish.   Aloof.   

Others have said he did engage them in small talk.   Ive had brief exchanges as well.   But it took years for that to happen.   When he 1st came on the scene, he was a lot more aloof or anti social.
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]  Would barely greet if passing by.   May reply to a greeting, but I didnt expect him to initiate a greeting.   Im assuming after seeing some people here for a number of years, he started to open up more.   

I have been here long enough not to be surprised in finding out that some expats living here have something going on that they are hiding from, or they cant go back to where they came from.   

Actually it was the exact opposite. When C first arrived here he was as gregarious as Greg was back then. Over time he became more reclusive. It went from seeing him damn near every day to barely seeing him. The noose that was tightening in the US may have had something to do with that.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 02:59:51 PM

Actually it was the exact opposite. When C first arrived here he was as gregarious as Greg was back then. Over time he became more reclusive. It went from seeing him damn near every day to barely seeing him. The noose that was tightening in the US may have had something to do with that.
As far as Im concerned.  I made it quite clear already.  "Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him."

Whatever you claim is true I dont have a problem with.  Your perspective is based on yours or others who corroborate your observation.  My observation is based mostly on my interactions/encounters and observations of him at the times I made them.   And some input I got from a few people as well.   

As far as Im concerned any perspective or observations of this individual can be true, when it applies.   It's not necessarily got to be one or the other.   Im just reporting my observations and encounters with the dude.    No one can assume my perspective is wrong or invalid just because they werent there to witness what I observed, for years up until the present.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 17, 2023, 03:09:05 PM

Actually it was the exact opposite. When C first arrived here he was as gregarious as Greg was back then. Over time he became more reclusive. It went from seeing him damn near every day to barely seeing him. The noose that was tightening in the US may have had something to do with that.
As far as Im concerned.  I made it quite clear already.  "Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him."

Whatever you claim is true I dont have a problem with.  Your perspective is based on yours or others who corroborate your observation.  My observation is based mostly on my interactions/encounters and observations of him at the times I made them.   And some input I got from a few people as well.   

As far as Im concerned any perspective or observations of this individual can be true, when it applies.   It's not necessarily got to be one or the other.   Im just reporting my observations and encounters with the dude.    No one can assume my perspective is wrong or invalid just because they werent there to witness what I observed, for years up until the present.     

Just curious, were you or anyone you got your information from living in Sosua in 2009-2011 time frame? There weren’t a lot of us here doing so at the time and we all tended to know one another.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 04:31:52 PM

Actually it was the exact opposite. When C first arrived here he was as gregarious as Greg was back then. Over time he became more reclusive. It went from seeing him damn near every day to barely seeing him. The noose that was tightening in the US may have had something to do with that.
As far as Im concerned.  I made it quite clear already.  "Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him."

Whatever you claim is true I dont have a problem with.  Your perspective is based on yours or others who corroborate your observation.  My observation is based mostly on my interactions/encounters and observations of him at the times I made them.   And some input I got from a few people as well.   

As far as Im concerned any perspective or observations of this individual can be true, when it applies.   It's not necessarily got to be one or the other.   Im just reporting my observations and encounters with the dude.    No one can assume my perspective is wrong or invalid just because they werent there to witness what I observed, for years up until the present.     

Just curious, were you or anyone you got your information from living in Sosua in 2009-2011 time frame? There weren’t a lot of us here doing so at the time and we all tended to know one another.
Im curious too.  I thought my previous response was sufficient.   What else do you need to know now that is relevant?

If you really want to engage in some discourse, please step on over to my thread where I asked you for some specific feedback.   

https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=15776.msg299710#msg299710 (https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=15776.msg299710#msg299710)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 17, 2023, 04:57:59 PM

Actually it was the exact opposite. When C first arrived here he was as gregarious as Greg was back then. Over time he became more reclusive. It went from seeing him damn near every day to barely seeing him. The noose that was tightening in the US may have had something to do with that.
As far as Im concerned.  I made it quite clear already.  "Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him."

Whatever you claim is true I dont have a problem with.  Your perspective is based on yours or others who corroborate your observation.  My observation is based mostly on my interactions/encounters and observations of him at the times I made them.   And some input I got from a few people as well.   

As far as Im concerned any perspective or observations of this individual can be true, when it applies.   It's not necessarily got to be one or the other.   Im just reporting my observations and encounters with the dude.    No one can assume my perspective is wrong or invalid just because they werent there to witness what I observed, for years up until the present.     

Just curious, were you or anyone you got your information from living in Sosua in 2009-2011 time frame? There weren’t a lot of us here doing so at the time and we all tended to know one another.
Im curious too.  I thought my previous response was sufficient.   What else do you need to know now that is relevant?

If you really want to engage in some discourse, please step on over to my thread where I asked you for some specific feedback.   

https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=15776.msg299710#msg299710 (https://takemebacktososua.com/index.php?topic=15776.msg299710#msg299710)

Bottom line is you didn’t know what you were talking about and tried desperately to clean it up. Nobody who was here at the time told you that C was anti social or even aloof when he first arrived here. You just made shit up. No worries, we’re good.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 05:28:55 PM

Bottom line is you didn’t know what you were talking about and tried desperately to clean it up. Nobody who was here at the time told you that C was anti social or even aloof when he first arrived here. You just made shit up. No worries, we’re good.
So thats what you are bugging out on.  You got to be kidding me?   Dude, me saying when  C 1st came on the scene is not equal to an exact year and time frame he arrived in Sosua.   Apparently you dont understand colloquial expression of thought.  But thats okay, I make allowances for the shortsighted with an axe to grind.   

When he 1st came on the scene is from my point of reference of observing and engaging with him,  not from his point of reference or when he 1st came to Sosua.    Be sure to process that correctly and get it right.  Because you were wrong.  Whatever he was about before I came on the scene, is irrelevant to my POV and point of reference.   

Let me say it one more time   "Depending on who you talk to, various people obviously have a similar or different perspective of him."

Whatever you claim is true I dont have a problem with.  Your perspective is based on yours or others who corroborate your observation.  My observation is based mostly on my interactions/encounters and observations of him at the times I made them.   And some input I got from a few people as well. " 



Please let that marinate. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 05:30:22 PM
For you Jazzy :

A colloquial expression is an informal expression used to communicate with other people. it is the phrases used in everyday lives for example through casual speaking and slang.

For example, when a person says when so and so 1st came on the scene,  the emphasis or message is not about pin pointing an exact time frame.  But to get the message across that whatever the message is,  to distinguish an earlier time frame as opposed to a current or recent time frame.   That is called common language expression 101.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 17, 2023, 05:36:13 PM

Bottom line is you didn’t know what you were talking about and tried desperately to clean it up. Nobody who was here at the time told you that C was anti social or even aloof when he first arrived here. You just made shit up. No worries, we’re good.
So thats what you are bugging out on.  You got to be kidding me?   Dude, me saying when  C 1st came on the scene is not equal to an exact year and time frame he arrived in Sosua.   Apparently you dont understand colloquial expression of thought.  But thats okay, I make allowances for the shortsighted with an axe to grind.   

When he 1st came on the scene is from my point of reference of observing and engaging with him,  not from his point of reference or when he 1st came to Sosua.    Be sure to process that correctly and get it right.  Because you were wrong.

I’m going to let that simmer. No need to comment. As I said we’re good.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 17, 2023, 05:43:02 PM

Bottom line is you didn’t know what you were talking about and tried desperately to clean it up. Nobody who was here at the time told you that C was anti social or even aloof when he first arrived here. You just made shit up. No worries, we’re good.
So thats what you are bugging out on.  You got to be kidding me?   Dude, me saying when  C 1st came on the scene is not equal to an exact year and time frame he arrived in Sosua.   Apparently you dont understand colloquial expression of thought.  But thats okay, I make allowances for the shortsighted with an axe to grind.   

When he 1st came on the scene is from my point of reference of observing and engaging with him,  not from his point of reference or when he 1st came to Sosua.    Be sure to process that correctly and get it right.  Because you were wrong.

I’m going to let that simmer. No need to comment. As I said we’re good.
Yes let that simmer.  I usually pay attention to details.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on September 18, 2023, 05:07:27 PM
I don't know this guy even though I think I'm seen him on the strip a couple of times, but one thing I wouldn't do on a public forum is to claim to know an international fugitive.

I mean someone may assume that you were somehow harboring him.

I mean when Kay tried to give Tom Hagen a letter for Micheal he refused to accept it Because that would indicate that he knew where Micheal was

I mean at the end of the day whether the dude was anti social or not doesn't really matter, I mean I hope that you didn't know enough about him to know why or why he wasn't antisocial but with no noticeable passive income stream and he lived in two countries and felt comfortable enough to have a pasola with cops in sosua itching for bribes???

Like i said I didn't know him and glad I didn't.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on September 19, 2023, 10:20:02 AM
You can see the guy is not the brightest ... why he did not chose a country with no extradition with the US??
There are a couple in South America  ::)

What countries might those be?

Cuba and Venezuela are almost always systematically refusing extradition requests.
Otherwise, almost every country in Africa along with Madagascar and a couple countries in SEA.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 19, 2023, 10:38:46 AM
Monday Sept 18th , 2023

Yesterday afternoon, chicas on Pedro Clisante in front of the VA clinic were fighting.  In the video I saw, one chick in the video was stabbing the other chick in the back ( and maybe her neck ).   It wasnt until I saw a still photo of both of them side by side, that I realized who one of the chicas was.   

She is the one in the green outfit, a Dominican chica named Caroline.  A chica with slim tight body, but also on drugs, probably coke.  Before the incident, I saw her parking her pasola in Bailees parking lot, then walk towards Bailees.  I noticed her green genie like outfit.  She looked like she was high then. 

So to hear about this incident is crazy.   

I have the video, but it wouldnt upload and send.  Maybe that is for the best. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 19, 2023, 10:52:00 AM
Tuesday Sept 19th, 2023

Ricky's restaurant, and the small little cafe/fruit and veggie place next door, had a fire today.

Ricky's restaurant is on Pedro Clisante a half block from Super Super liquor store and Banco Reservas.  I am not certain of the extent of damage to what is depicted in the photos, or if any other business nearby sustained damage?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 19, 2023, 01:18:26 PM
Monday Sept 18th , 2023

Yesterday afternoon, chicas on Pedro Clisante in front of the VA clinic were fighting.  In the video I saw, one chick in the video was stabbing the other chick in the back ( and maybe her neck ).   It wasnt until I saw a still photo of both of them side by side, that I realized who one of the chicas was.   

She is the one in the green outfit, a Dominican chica named Caroline.  A chica with slim tight body, but also on drugs, probably coke.  Before the incident, I saw her parking her pasola in Bailees parking lot, then walk towards Bailees.  I noticed her green genie like outfit.  She looked like she was high then. 

So to hear about this incident is crazy.   

I have the video, but it wouldnt upload and send.  Maybe that is for the best.
Beautiful chicas high on coke stabbing one another ,yup things are getting worse !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Pussyrus1422 on September 19, 2023, 05:37:31 PM
Tuesday Sept 19th, 2023

Ricky's restaurant, and the small little cafe/fruit and veggie place next door, had a fire today.

Ricky's restaurant is on Pedro Clisante a half block from Super Super liquor store and Banco Reservas. I am not certain of the extent of damage to what is depicted in the photos, or if any other business nearby sustained damage?

Ricky's Pollo, the small Fruit Store,  and part of the Lotto ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxYHTQItJDT/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 19, 2023, 06:00:52 PM
Tuesday Sept 19th, 2023

Ricky's restaurant, and the small little cafe/fruit and veggie place next door, had a fire today.

Ricky's restaurant is on Pedro Clisante a half block from Super Super liquor store and Banco Reservas. I am not certain of the extent of damage to what is depicted in the photos, or if any other business nearby sustained damage?

Ricky's Pollo, the small Fruit Store,  and part of the Lotto ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxYHTQItJDT/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Thanks for that video.    That fire was intense. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on September 19, 2023, 06:06:39 PM
Pretty amazing that it did not take the entire block.  All of those buildings are pretty much tied together
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on September 19, 2023, 06:24:28 PM
Tuesday Sept 19th, 2023

Ricky's restaurant, and the small little cafe/fruit and veggie place next door, had a fire today.

Ricky's restaurant is on Pedro Clisante a half block from Super Super liquor store and Banco Reservas. I am not certain of the extent of damage to what is depicted in the photos, or if any other business nearby sustained damage?

Ricky's Pollo, the small Fruit Store,  and part of the Lotto ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxYHTQItJDT/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Wasnt there another chicken spot between the lottery place and Rickys restaurant?    They sold chicken on a gril.  Whole, half and quarters.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on September 19, 2023, 07:30:15 PM
Monday Sept 18th , 2023

Yesterday afternoon, chicas on Pedro Clisante in front of the VA clinic were fighting.  In the video I saw, one chick in the video was stabbing the other chick in the back ( and maybe her neck ).   It wasnt until I saw a still photo of both of them side by side, that I realized who one of the chicas was.   

She is the one in the green outfit, a Dominican chica named Caroline.  A chica with slim tight body, but also on drugs, probably coke.  Before the incident, I saw her parking her pasola in Bailees parking lot, then walk towards Bailees.  I noticed her green genie like outfit.  She looked like she was high then. 

So to hear about this incident is crazy.   

I have the video, but it wouldnt upload and send.  Maybe that is for the best.
Yes we don't need to see it, high chicas can do some terrible shit. FYI it is not coke their on, it fake coca, mostly PCP with 20-25% coca, its more addictive, the chias can get a balloon for 3-500 pesos, enough for the night to party, the addicted need 2-3xs that every day. I do not advocate drug use, but some women I know use it as an escape, to feel free. When we are together, and she feels secure her true emotions come out.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on September 19, 2023, 10:31:11 PM
Monday Sept 18th , 2023

Yesterday afternoon, chicas on Pedro Clisante in front of the VA clinic were fighting.  In the video I saw, one chick in the video was stabbing the other chick in the back ( and maybe her neck ).   It wasnt until I saw a still photo of both of them side by side, that I realized who one of the chicas was.   

She is the one in the green outfit, a Dominican chica named Caroline.  A chica with slim tight body, but also on drugs, probably coke.  Before the incident, I saw her parking her pasola in Bailees parking lot, then walk towards Bailees.  I noticed her green genie like outfit.  She looked like she was high then. 

So to hear about this incident is crazy.   

I have the video, but it wouldnt upload and send.  Maybe that is for the best.
Yes we don't need to see it, high chicas can do some terrible shit. FYI it is not coke their on, it fake coca, mostly PCP with 20-25% coca, its more addictive, the chias can get a balloon for 3-500 pesos, enough for the night to party, the addicted need 2-3xs that every day. I do not advocate drug use, but some women I know use it as an escape, to feel free. When we are together, and she feels secure her true emotions come out.

You sound like you know but never mentioned it. I know a guy who moved to Colombia for cheaper coke and he said Coke is all over Sosua and a lot of chicas are addicts or have a little habit.

Everyone knows about the spot down the street from Europa and those houses behind the "cow pasture" but he said the ladies room at the atrium in the casino was also a spot where hoes copped.

We discuss every aspect of Sosua in detail but no one talks about how much drugs influence the game in Sosua.

I know about those spots imagine what dudes who spend several months a year and guys who live there know yet never discuss.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on September 19, 2023, 11:08:18 PM
Yes it is everywhere, but stepped on hard, like I said mostly PCP. I have spent about 3yrs. in the last 13,  in Sosua. I was only ST with chicas the first few years, a few days at most.After I found some "keepers" it was more like a GFE, a week at a time. That's when I learned the street game, who was doing and who was selling what. All my chicas smoked (like me) some did a little blow, just to party. I don't buy on the street, my chicas get it delivered.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on September 20, 2023, 08:43:26 AM
Wow! Lil joint Sent me a few videos of this one. I thought she was fronting & it was old sh!T lol. Shorty in green was trying to cut Shorty like they was in the yard 4reaL!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on September 20, 2023, 09:04:05 AM
Tuesday Sept 19th, 2023

Ricky's restaurant, and the small little cafe/fruit and veggie place next door, had a fire today.

Ricky's restaurant is on Pedro Clisante a half block from Super Super liquor store and Banco Reservas. I am not certain of the extent of damage to what is depicted in the photos, or if any other business nearby sustained damage?

Ricky's Pollo, the small Fruit Store,  and part of the Lotto ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxYHTQItJDT/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Wasnt there another chicken spot between the lottery place and Rickys restaurant?    They sold chicken on a gril.  Whole, half and quarters.

There was super chiken besides but I don't know if it was still operating
Did the Almanzar colmado burned too?

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/15/84/94/53/20160517.jpg)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on September 20, 2023, 10:31:35 AM
Monday Sept 18th , 2023

Yesterday afternoon, chicas on Pedro Clisante in front of the VA clinic were fighting.  In the video I saw, one chick in the video was stabbing the other chick in the back ( and maybe her neck ).   It wasnt until I saw a still photo of both of them side by side, that I realized who one of the chicas was.   

She is the one in the green outfit, a Dominican chica named Caroline.  A chica with slim tight body, but also on drugs, probably coke.  Before the incident, I saw her parking her pasola in Bailees parking lot, then walk towards Bailees.  I noticed her green genie like outfit.  She looked like she was high then. 

So to hear about this incident is crazy.   

I have the video, but it wouldnt upload and send.  Maybe that is for the best.
Yes we don't need to see it, high chicas can do some terrible shit. FYI it is not coke their on, it fake coca, mostly PCP with 20-25% coca, its more addictive, the chias can get a balloon for 3-500 pesos, enough for the night to party, the addicted need 2-3xs that every day. I do not advocate drug use, but some women I know use it as an escape, to feel free. When we are together, and she feels secure her true emotions come out.

You sound like you know but never mentioned it. I know a guy who moved to Colombia for cheaper coke and he said Coke is all over Sosua and a lot of chicas are addicts or have a little habit.

Everyone knows about the spot down the street from Europa and those houses behind the "cow pasture" but he said the ladies room at the atrium in the casino was also a spot where hoes copped.

We discuss every aspect of Sosua in detail but no one talks about how much drugs influence the game in Sosua.

I know about those spots imagine what dudes who spend several months a year and guys who live there know yet never discuss.
Yup chicas doing blow ,not all but I'm sure you can combine pussy with blow can have a Hella Time but if shit goes south it can get ugly and deadly!  Even the young teens hanging around Bailees could hook you up last year on one of my walk by, a kid goes to me passing buy says I got weed coke chicas what ever you need, of course  I said no gracious  and kept moving !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on September 20, 2023, 01:11:56 PM
Tuesday Sept 19th, 2023

Ricky's restaurant, and the small little cafe/fruit and veggie place next door, had a fire today.

Ricky's restaurant is on Pedro Clisante a half block from Super Super liquor store and Banco Reservas. I am not certain of the extent of damage to what is depicted in the photos, or if any other business nearby sustained damage?

Ricky's Pollo, the small Fruit Store,  and part of the Lotto ...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxYHTQItJDT/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again
Wasnt there another chicken spot between the lottery place and Rickys restaurant?    They sold chicken on a gril.  Whole, half and quarters.

There was super chiken besides but I don't know if it was still operating
Did the Almanzar colmado burned too?

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f86/15/84/94/53/20160517.jpg)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Bat Man on September 20, 2023, 07:29:50 PM
Wow! Lil joint Sent me a few videos of this one. I thought she was fronting & it was old sh!T lol. Shorty in green was trying to cut Shorty like they was in the yard 4reaL!

That shit hit all the groups yesterday
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: crazy_canuck on September 20, 2023, 10:01:38 PM
Thanks Jazzy
The Ricky restaurant, I did not go on my 3 last trips because they got me sick last time I ate there.
The super chiken restaurant though was doing very good chicken on the bbq ... well seasoned and cheap ... I bought many times from them and never I was disapointed.
Hope nobody was hurt.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 20, 2024, 06:30:46 AM
Friday April 19th, 2024

While driving down PC, I noticed that Rickys Dominican restaurant and the fruit and veggie/mini market cafeteria spot next door were making progress getting back on track, since the fire last year September.

Ricky's looks like the dining area is going to be a lot bigger than before.  The fruit veggie place, looked like they were actually in operation.  I saw new cooking equipment, and I briefly caught a quick glance of their produce set up for sale.   

I wasnt really trying to check out everything around town, but it was apparent that Sosua has accumulated a lot of new barbershops.    I wish some of those new businesses were nail salons or massage parlors.   I need a pedicure like a muthablubba.   I was spoiled having at least one regular that took care of that. 

Looks like now Im going to have to go to Theresa's shop down the hill going towards the beach.  Only thing is, she charges tourist prices.  Or I could go to Los Charamicos in the day time, and find a salon there?   

Or f--k it, maybe I will go to the beach and let Milagros take care of it for me.   Make believe Im a tourist.   At least her and I should be able to  work out a slight discount.   It's not the price, it's the principle.   Negotiation is what people do in the DR.  It helps to take the target off ones back.  I do respect her hustle.   She's been working the beach for a lot of years.   But from her perspective, I may still be considered a walking ATM cash cow.   

In other words, we dont get any respect for who we are or what we represent.  It's always about what they can potentially get out of us, which makes us valuable in their eyes.   Very superficial thinking.  It's amazing how different we think towards them ( personable & positively ) , vs how they seem to operate with us ( seeing us as a potential cash resource and offering us superficial fake friendship ).     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 20, 2024, 07:37:39 AM
Its Saturday April 20th 2024

It's a cloudy, rainy morning so far ( @830 ).    My part time Haitian regular just left.  I expect it to be like this all day.   No beach today.   If I want something special for lunch later, Aris restaurant #67 on the beach will still be open. I can have him deliver my usual meal without having to go the beach to get it.   

Or I can make something, from what I already have.   

Todays a good day to transfer pics and video of my trips onto an external drive.  Also update any devices that require it.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 20, 2024, 07:58:59 AM
I have noticed that the usual illegal street pharmacies around town are still servicing the community and foreigners.   There is this one chick that everybody should know by now.   She is as skinny as a number 2 pencil.   Used to be a nice looking chick.   The drugs has consistently kept her looking like skin and bones, with absolutely no ass whatsoever.   She's about 5' 7" to 5' 8".  medium brown complexion.  Used to have a nice rack.   Now she is rackless.  Used to have a nice smile when she was healthy and on patrol, especially on the beach.   

There's another chick like her that looks wore out as well.   She used to frequent the beach, but the last time I saw her,  she was walking back and forth on the road that leads to La Mulatta.   This one is lighter complected.   When she was healthy, she had a pretty face.   Kinda reminded me of singer/dancer Mya in the face.   

This chick looks horrible now.  She had a baby several years ago.  I believe with some white guy.   But when she turned to hard core drugs, she destroyed herself.   ive even seen her down the highway near Perla Marina trying to get picked up on the side of the road.

The drug thing is one thing I hate that has happened to Sosua.   If it was just weed, or a little blow, it might be ok.   But whatever these neighborhood pharmacists is pushing is f--king up a lot of people.   Also the traffic leading to and from these places, and people blocking the streets is a f--king nuisance.   

If there are chicas working in Sosua that arent hardcore in some form or another, that would have to be a miracle.   One can just look at them, and sense that most of them cant be trusted.   Not for anything.   

Making eye contact and attempting to do business or even inquire about potential business, is like sending them a message of you potentially being a target, and/or how dumb you might be to even think about wanting anything from them.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 20, 2024, 08:19:00 AM
Just asked Google for the weather forecast for the next 10 days,

Tomorrow Sunday about 10% chance of rain.   30% to 40% rain from Monday April 22 until Saturday April 27th.   Then Sunday and Monday following,  it appears the weather is expected to be sunny and dry.   Lets see how this plays out.   At least it's not cold here in the DR.  Ashy hands in the states in April?    I was suffering, the nine days I was in the states before getting back to Sosua.   Too f--king cold, and it rained a lot there. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 20, 2024, 05:16:37 PM
Friday April 19th, 2024

While driving down PC, I noticed that Rickys Dominican restaurant and the fruit and veggie/mini market cafeteria spot next door were making progress getting back on track, since the fire last year September.

Ricky's looks like the dining area is going to be a lot bigger than before.  The fruit veggie place, looked like they were actually in operation.  I saw new cooking equipment, and I briefly caught a quick glance of their produce set up for sale.   

I wasnt really trying to check out everything around town, but it was apparent that Sosua has accumulated a lot of new barbershops.    I wish some of those new businesses were nail salons or massage parlors.   I need a pedicure like a muthablubba.   I was spoiled having at least one regular that took care of that. 

Looks like now Im going to have to go to Theresa's shop down the hill going towards the beach.  Only thing is, she charges tourist prices.  Or I could go to Los Charamicos in the day time, and find a salon there?   

Or f--k it, maybe I will go to the beach and let Milagros take care of it for me.   Make believe Im a tourist.   At least her and I should be able to  work out a slight discount.   It's not the price, it's the principle.   Negotiation is what people do in the DR.  It helps to take the target off ones back.  I do respect her hustle.   She's been working the beach for a lot of years.   But from her perspective, I may still be considered a walking ATM cash cow.   

In other words, we dont get any respect for who we are or what we represent.  It's always about what they can potentially get out of us, which makes us valuable in their eyes.   Very superficial thinking.  It's amazing how different we think towards them ( personable & positively ) , vs how they seem to operate with us ( seeing us as a potential cash resource and offering us superficial fake friendship ).   
If your more than a 2 trip vistor to the su , f--king right chalenge any doni ican or hatian for a better deal, funny my hatian chica looks at me funny when i argu for a better price  with locals or say no bunea too many peso, even got some locals trained to show a me a receipt  befor i pay for Services rendered !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bionicsound on April 21, 2024, 11:31:26 AM
Friday April 19th, 2024

While driving down PC, I noticed that Rickys Dominican restaurant and the fruit and veggie/mini market cafeteria spot next door were making progress getting back on track, since the fire last year September.

Ricky's looks like the dining area is going to be a lot bigger than before.  The fruit veggie place, looked like they were actually in operation.  I saw new cooking equipment, and I briefly caught a quick glance of their produce set up for sale.   

I wasnt really trying to check out everything around town, but it was apparent that Sosua has accumulated a lot of new barbershops.    I wish some of those new businesses were nail salons or massage parlors.   I need a pedicure like a muthablubba.   I was spoiled having at least one regular that took care of that. 

Looks like now Im going to have to go to Theresa's shop down the hill going towards the beach.  Only thing is, she charges tourist prices.  Or I could go to Los Charamicos in the day time, and find a salon there?   

Or f--k it, maybe I will go to the beach and let Milagros take care of it for me.   Make believe Im a tourist.   At least her and I should be able to  work out a slight discount.   It's not the price, it's the principle.   Negotiation is what people do in the DR.  It helps to take the target off ones back.  I do respect her hustle.   She's been working the beach for a lot of years.   But from her perspective, I may still be considered a walking ATM cash cow.   

In other words, we dont get any respect for who we are or what we represent.  It's always about what they can potentially get out of us, which makes us valuable in their eyes.   Very superficial thinking.  It's amazing how different we think towards them ( personable & positively ) , vs how they seem to operate with us ( seeing us as a potential cash resource and offering us superficial fake friendship ).   
If your more than a 2 trip vistor to the su , f--king right chalenge any doni ican or hatian for a better deal, funny my hatian chica looks at me funny when i argu for a better price  with locals or say no bunea too many peso, even got some locals trained to show a me a receipt  befor i pay for Services rendered !

Started to ask what are common prices for goods in the newbie section (e.g. Bottle of water ~ 50 pesos) but since you bring it up...Humor me Mr Tug
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 21, 2024, 12:37:14 PM
30 PESOS  local brand
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 21, 2024, 01:50:55 PM
30 PESOS  local brand
Started to ask what are common prices for goods in the newbie section (e.g. Bottle of water ~ 50 pesos) but since you bring it up...Humor me Mr Tug

I was dissapointed this morning.   I had breakfast at New Garden. The price of the food is cheap, but they did not have any of the meat I usually eat.  But still they charged me full price.  I ordered a glass of pineapple juice.  I get a small glass of juice fit for a 6yr old, full of ice to boot.  150 pesos?   About 4 ozs of juice and the rest ice.   Whereas if you buy a quart of the same juice in the colmado, it's about 90 pesos.   It's little shit like that, that I dont like about dining out.

In the states, a local Spanish restaurant me , my buddy and his wife go to, a pitcher of Sangria costs $37 USD.  And just like any other beverage served these days, the pitcher is full of ice.   I can deal with food being a little pricy.  But I hate paying a grip for drinks and beverages, and getting it in a little glass.   In some cases, I'll drink my beverages later.   Rather than getting gipped on paying for drinks.   At least give a muthablubba a large glass of beverage, even if it is full of ice.   I'd respect the hustle more. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 21, 2024, 02:23:04 PM
Sunday April 21, 2024 about 10:30am

Across the street from New Garden restaurant was a handful of chicas looking for work.  One in particular was Caroline.  She is the chick that got into a fight with another chick last year, ended up stabbing the other chick in her back.  The other chick got the knife and started cutting her up too.

They both went to the hospital that day/night.   Hadnt seen her since that incident. 

The rest of the chicks were an assortment of halfway decent looking chicks mixed with a few whales.  Some of the whales were old vets that blew up over the years.  I recall when they were newbies on the scene.  Now they are Sosuas veterans.

A bunch of dudes in the restaurant were eyeballing this one short chick who had a super round surgical ass.   Is that what they call BBL?    She dropped her ID off at the desk, then crossed the street with an enormous dude.   All the cats in the restaurant were looking at this chick in amazment because of her gigantic round ass. 

They seemed to be envying the guy for what he was about to do with that chick.    I watched as the two of them did the walk of shame across to the new section, with her shorts stuck in the crack of her big ass cheeks.  But thats the style.  I personally think it makes some chicks look stank.   

Anyway, about 20 minutes later, dude was escorting her back to get her ID, and they parted company.   Damn, that must have been a world record session.  Or no session at all.  Was it even worth it?   I wonder how much she got him for?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 21, 2024, 03:09:24 PM
Welcome to the NEW Sosua!!! Dumb asses paying 1/2 the  price of a TLN for 15 minutes, and for a fuggly fat ass!!!! I just don't get it!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 23, 2024, 08:45:07 AM
Sunday & Monday the 21 and the 22 were both beautiful days in Sosua. 

Sunny and dry.   Monday I made it to the beach.  Was there until about 6pm.  Even had a few locals coming to the beach as couples and families.  Come to think about it, I think the banks and schools may have been closed yesterday.   

It appears to be a decent number of guys in town.   I think it's always going to be that way for a while.  Because a number of guys over the years have fell in love with vacationing in Sosua.   As well as guys renting apartments, retiring and now living in or close to Sosua.

A lot of guys love renting those 4 wheelers in town.   And a few opt to rent a pasola/scooter.   You can tell some cats dont usually ride pasolas/scooters just by how awkward they look on them. 

The main thing is, the 40% chance of rain for the area has been kept under wraps.   The weather for the last two days has been gorgeous.    And today, Tuesday the 23rd.....it looks like it may also be another beautiful day.   

Had my Red Snapper 2 for 1 ( 2 small fish making up 1lb ) veggies, yellow rice, and a tiny salad.   With one bottle of water 950 pesos.    I was only able to eat half of it.   The rest I can eat for lunch today.     I can remember when a fish meal at the beach was only 300 pesos.   But of course, the exchange rate then was much much lower.   

Compared to the USA, 800 to 1200 pesos for a fried fish meal is a bargain.   Not much of a bargain from a locals perspective.   Only certain DR locals will spend that much at the beach.   Where I was in the states was a local restaurant that serves fried fish and chicken.   

Very popular in my neighborhood ( In the states ).   They have a special.  2 fried pieces of catfish, 3 wings, one side item ( macaroni salad or potato salad or yellow rice or fries ), and a 12oz can of soda/iced tea/water.   For $10.50      Aside from it not being considered a healthy meal, just the price and taste alone makes it seem like a bargain. 

There's also a Dominican restaurant in my old neighborhood ( in the states ) that my buddy turned me on to.   I got a meal from there 2 weeks ago.   Rice and beans, baked chicken, cabbage with sweet bananas.  Only $10.    Food was very tasty and good portions.   On the beach in Sosua that same meal may cost more.   Including the price of beverages, and an expected tip.   

On the strip, unless Im treating myself, I try to avoid the venues that charge the 28% tax on the bill.   One thing that has evolved in the service industry ( Sosua particularly ), is how restaurants are making more money on how they serve beverages.  Using smaller glasses, using more ice, and jacking the prices up.   

When I was on the beach yesterday,  I bought a bottle of water from the restaurant I ate at.   But I also went to the small colmado on the beach and bought lemonade and carrot juice.   75 pesos for each 16oz cup.   Guy didnt even put ice in the cup because it was already very cold.   

Now, how can I a Sosua vet, justify drinking a beverage from somewhere else at the restaurant Im eating at?   Simple.  Im good with the owner.  I always bring business to his establishment.  Plus, if you look around, there are vendors on the beach stopping by restaurants selling food to customers dining at these restaurants.   What a slap in the face.

And the owners dont say anything about that.   Plus I tip extra even though there is a service charge of 10% on the bill.    Im not in the US, so I know I have some flexibility in how I can operate at some venues.    I dont make it a habit.    I generally wont be doing that at Kings/Rumba or other places on the strip.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Warrior118 on April 23, 2024, 10:35:01 AM
Some you guys forget. Some you guys never been around bunch of pretty women. Brothers that come to island with nasty Attitude against other mongers.  Dudes over paying for hour & overnight. Dudes paying chicks with American money. It almost over
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bingoman on April 23, 2024, 03:19:05 PM
What the current taxi rates to Puerto Plata and Cabarete ?

I hope to take the shared taxi where possible for daytrips but might have to move luggage when I switch accommodations. Thanks !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 23, 2024, 05:02:13 PM
What the current taxi rates to Puerto Plata and Cabarete ?

I hope to take the shared taxi where possible for daytrips but might have to move luggage when I switch accommodations. Thanks !
Wish I could help, but I havent kept up with taxi prices over the years.  And I havent used a taxi to get around on the north coast for years.   The only thing I know as of the 16th of April, is that the taxi ride from POP to Sosua is $25.   As per the price board outside of the terminal.   

In my early days of visiting, I took the chance of renting cars in Sosua to avoid using taxis, and so I could go wherever I want.   I have a buddy from the states who rents a vehicle when he comes to the DR.   His pretend GF lives in PP.    When he's done with the car, the renter drops him off at the airport.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Warrior118 on April 24, 2024, 12:09:59 PM
Dudes mess up this place. I been coming every year since 2012. It dudes that ruin this spot. Dudes are over paying being selfish not worry next men coming. These chicks ask for American money & prices. Internet Dudes that never been no where that talk like he watch women videos all day.so many fools flying into place without looking up information. I'm glad majority of these over paying corny acting nose up dudes. At one time all mongering brothers use be together when boots on ground & speak with each other. Now these dudes mean mug or will look down at next man to please prostitute. Just glad these idiots don't fly far and stay in small flights. It almost over. Thanks fellas smdh Lmaoo
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 24, 2024, 02:13:05 PM
What the current taxi rates to Puerto Plata and Cabarete ?

I hope to take the shared taxi where possible for daytrips but might have to move luggage when I switch accommodations. Thanks !
Take a "Publico", public taxi. One of my chicas works late on Fri. Sat. nights (11:00 pm), takes a "publico" from P.P. Pays 500 p.to my door, which technically they are not suppose to do, ( supposed to stay on fixed route, Hyw# 5). A 100 p. will get you to Cabarete in a publico taxi, 50 P. for the Gua Gua (local bus).
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 24, 2024, 02:16:08 PM
Well weed out the dummies let the over pay, I'm down here now and the slow season is in full affect, less regular tourist not so many dub dubs ,  sure your gonna have ratchet hoes funny I was out at Cinderella hour mid nite and there were 50 chicas at the conner bar next to blue ice all of them not chosen. News flash to chicas lower you f--king prices, a few places are closed or under going renervations , so guys it's the slow season less boobs clowns and crowds
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 24, 2024, 02:39:58 PM
Lets get real here! O.G's  been saying "this B.S. will be over soon", HAS IT HAPPENED? NO!  Their asking prices will never come down! IT's up to us to not pay it!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bingoman on April 24, 2024, 02:45:02 PM
What the current taxi rates to Puerto Plata and Cabarete ?

I hope to take the shared taxi where possible for daytrips but might have to move luggage when I switch accommodations. Thanks !
Wish I could help, but I havent kept up with taxi prices over the years.  And I havent used a taxi to get around on the north coast for years.   The only thing I know as of the 16th of April, is that the taxi ride from POP to Sosua is $25.   As per the price board outside of the terminal.   

In my early days of visiting, I took the chance of renting cars in Sosua to avoid using taxis, and so I could go wherever I want.   I have a buddy from the states who rents a vehicle when he comes to the DR.   His pretend GF lives in PP.    When he's done with the car, the renter drops him off at the airport.   

Thank you, I am going to find out and post back soon.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 24, 2024, 03:29:09 PM
As Murano stated the airport price is $25 US, I use pesos, so it was 1,400 last month. Had to stay one night at Europa (my place for the month was not ready). Next day ( same driver) took me to my place,(help me in), the Super Playero for shopping (waited) and back to my place (carried shopping) for 1,000 p.His name is Johnny Taxi, 1 809 815 5172.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 24, 2024, 05:33:48 PM
April 24th 2024.   Sosua El Batey

65 yr old black expat found dead sitting in a chair on his balcony.   Cancer and/or heart failure most likely the cause.   Left behind a Haitian girlfriend, and a daughter he had with her.  Was supporting them both with his retirement funds.  He lived alone.  Without him alive, all support will cease for the Haitian lady and the daughter.     Unclear if he had relatives in the states to contact. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 25, 2024, 10:26:49 AM
Wednesday April 24th, a beautiful sunny and dry day. 

Thursday April 25th, rained in the wee hours until about 8ish.  Now it's partly cloudy with the sun trying to creep through the clouds.  Perfect temperature.   May turn out to be a lovely day after all. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on April 25, 2024, 12:27:09 PM
April 24th 2024.   Sosua El Batey

65 yr old black expat found dead sitting in a chair on his balcony.   Cancer and/or heart failure most likely the cause.   Left behind a Haitian girlfriend, and a daughter he had with her.  Was supporting them both with his retirement funds.  He lived alone.  Without him alive, all support will cease for the Haitian lady and the daughter.     Unclear if he had relatives in the states to contact.


Any other info?? Like, his name?? Hotel or residence??
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 25, 2024, 12:49:40 PM
April 24th 2024.   Sosua El Batey

65 yr old black expat found dead sitting in a chair on his balcony.   Cancer and/or heart failure most likely the cause.   Left behind a Haitian girlfriend, and a daughter he had with her.  Was supporting them both with his retirement funds.  He lived alone.  Without him alive, all support will cease for the Haitian lady and the daughter.     Unclear if he had relatives in the states to contact.


Any other info?? Like, his name?? Hotel or residence??
His name was Eric.  Im not mentioning his last name for now.  Lived across from the former Mary Rose hotel on Alejo Martinez.   Lived in Sosua about the same amount of time as myself.    This is an old military photo of Eric.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Al NYC on April 25, 2024, 02:13:28 PM
April 24th 2024.   Sosua El Batey

65 yr old black expat found dead sitting in a chair on his balcony.   Cancer and/or heart failure most likely the cause.   Left behind a Haitian girlfriend, and a daughter he had with her.  Was supporting them both with his retirement funds.  He lived alone.  Without him alive, all support will cease for the Haitian lady and the daughter.     Unclear if he had relatives in the states to contact.


Any other info?? Like, his name?? Hotel or residence??
His name was Eric.  Im not mentioning his last name for now.  Lived across from the former Mary Rose hotel on Alejo Martinez.   Lived in Sosua about the same amount of time as myself.    This is an old military photo of Eric.

Thanks. R.I.P. Eric.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 25, 2024, 04:29:20 PM
My replacement Charles Schwab Debit Card was compromised yesterday.   Was contacted by CS yesterday claiming an attempt was made to charge my card $78.  The attempted charge was in Barcelona Spain.   

While in Nairobi, I requested CS to send me a new card to a stateside address, because I knew it would expire soon.  I didnt want to have an expired card while in the DR.   So I requested to get a replacement early. 

This is the 1st time a CS card of mine was compromised.   I physically used it a few times in the states before making it to the DR.   In the DR, all I did was pay my health insurance coverage in the DR, that was through email.   

Had to give them the updated expiration date and CVC code.   The only other purchase was a $5 charge using Charles Schwab on my phones digital wallet at a Super Pola terminal.    And renewing my PriceSmart membership online. 

So I have no idea how that card was compromised, so soon after having it activated.   

Charles Schwab is expediting a replacement card to be sent to the DR.   Should get it in about a week or less.    I hate that the number will be changed.  I had my previous number memorized.   Oh well.  Kudos to Charles Schwab for not even letting that transaction happen, promptly advising me, and sending me another card to the DR with no hesitation.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 27, 2024, 02:42:17 AM
Friday April 26th.  Partly cloudy day.  Some sprinkles late afternoon

I picked up some friends from POP this afternoon.   Took over an hour for them to come out.  Because multiple flights had arrived, which meant that immigration would be super crowded.   When I got back to POP on the 16th, I believe it was only one plane that had arrived.  And I was one of the 1st passengers to make it to immigration.

I was out of the terminal in less than 30 minutes.   These fellas got checked in to their hotel, then we went to get lunch.  After lunch, exchange money and buy groceries at Playero.    On the way to Playero I spotted Mapello.   One guy in my car who knows Mapello, exchanged 300 USD.

Mapello said that the rate dropped slightly during the day, and he was offering 57.80.   The other two cats wasnt feeling Mapello, they decided to wait to exchange in Playero.   Playero only offered 57 to 1.   They probably should have exchanged with Mapello.  But I didnt know what the rate in the store would be.   We all learned what the better choice was.

While in the store, eye contact was made between these dudes and a pair of sexy chicas.   Numbers were exchanged with one.   Later one of the cats said the chick wanted $100.   He claimed she accepted a counter offer of $60.    I guess I wasnt in the frame of mind of getting too deep into what they were doing.   It just seemed like they were enjoying the moment flirting.

But if I were them, I would only be discussing compensation in pesos, not USD.  I wasnt really in teacher mode, and I expected that they should know what they are doing, since all of them have been to Sosua before.   The chick accepted his counter offer, but I dont know if they arranged to meet.   

Which turns out to be something we talked about here before.  Just because chicks tell a guy a hundred dollars doesnt mean thats the bottom line price.    In fact, a dude may be able to do slightly better than that, and offer 3000 pesos for ST.    3000 at todays rate is about $51 USD.    I can recall when 3000 pesos was about $63 USD.    Because that is what I used to give some of my regulars for an overnight. 

Even if a guy offers 3500 pesos for ST today, still thats slightly under $60 dollars.   

On the way out of the store in the parking lot, a tall drink of water pulled up beside my car.  She was getting some attention from the guys in my car.   She turned around to see who was trying to holler at her.   Wide open for business, and spoke English.    That exchange was brief, and then she went into the store because it started drizzling.

My guess is, that chick may be firm on wanting at least 5000 pesos for ST, or quote $100 as her fee.    I base that on her speaking English, her driving a car, and rating her as a solid 7+ visually.  It's always interesting to me, watching how guys behave and operate when they get to Sosua.

I truly see how my perspective navigating in Sosua is totally structured differently than guys coming for vacation.   One major difference is in our choices of places to eat.   While I may have a problem paying 28% tax on a dining bill at the usual venues around town.

Vacationing dudes dont have any reservations of going to the places that do charge 28% tax on the dining bill.   Those are the places many guys want to go to dine.   Because they arent in the same frame of mind as some of us expats in terms of seeing dining in Sosua as taking advantage because we are tourists.   

For the average guy that comes to Sosua,  as far as they are concerned, dining is cheap in Sosua.  Cant argue with that compared to what guys are paying in the states for dining out.

One of the guys had mentioned Finger Finger in terms of how much they enjoyed the food at his place.  But see, I have a totally different mindset when it comes to dealing with a character like Finger Finger.   Certain guys that I know would not even bother with dining at his spot, because they were scammed on their meals or over charged.

But guys on vacation, dont see dining at FF as being overcharged.  Mostly vets and/or expats would see the con games or baiting and switching going on.  To the average guy on vacation, FF is a great host.  A down to earth brother, who serves great food.   Which is totally different from my overall perspective.   

One can apply what Im saying also to Mosha.  Some vacationers swear that Mosha is the most down to earth brother, that serves great food.  He has a great mouthpiece.   He can be personable when he thinks he has customers.    Whereas guys like myself see him from more perspectives than what others may not see or experience. 

What I see in guys today, coming to Sosua is them going to an amusement park, that have somewhat dangerous rides.  They are not necessarily going to be as focused on learning the ins and outs of the game as serious vets or expats.   Their time here is limited, and they will go back home.

They are only going to apply enough information so they can get through their vacation, and then come back to do it all over again.   For the time being they will be in the enamored stage with Sosua and it's players. 

Meanwhile, I may get to a point, I'll be planning my next trip in the next 3 to 4 months, and earn the feeling of missing Sosua all over again.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 27, 2024, 05:42:23 AM
You got that right guys on vacation verses morre seasoned vets that know the prices and places not to get gringoed,,,.Any who just came back from a 4 day trip,,,,,My haitain chica wanted fish,,, so i Stolled down to Sosua beach, one of the first Donimican shacks on the left, for got the name, I ordered red snapper with fried bannas,, Advertiesd price 900 pesos, added tax came to 1100,,,, if it was me i think it was too much, but chica was happy and said other places better fish but 1500 pesos,,,,,So be mindfull on prices if your budget Savey !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bionicsound on April 27, 2024, 07:22:07 AM
That's what I was getting at in a previous post. Sure, advice can be had here for exchange rates, toto/rental car prices and what guys should be paying, however there's little info delving into actual local prices for goods.

Tug, you corrected me on bottled water prices being no more than 30 pesos. Can you gentlemen expound upon this? I've been lucky on a few short squeezes as of late and have money to burn but knowing I'm unfairly paying more for anything would put me in a extremely foul mood. Can't help, got some deep principles.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 27, 2024, 08:11:21 AM
That's what I was getting at in a previous post. Sure, advice can be had here for exchange rates, toto/rental car prices and what guys should be paying, however there's little info delving into actual local prices for goods.

Tug, you corrected me on bottled water prices being no more than 30 pesos. Can you gentlemen expound upon this? I've been lucky on a few short squeezes as of late and have money to burn but knowing I'm unfairly paying more for anything would put me in a extremely foul mood. Can't help, got some deep principles.
The reason why certain specific information is not provided, is because it is not usually asked.   And when it is asked, that info quickly gets buried and lost in piles of pages.

You asked for members to expound.   You mean on prices of water?   Or do you mean the prices on all sorts of things?   IMO, it's better to ask specific questions on what things one is interested in knowing?   Like if one were asking where is the best place to buy liquor in Sosua?  Those who have the answer, may be able to help.

The best price, best place to get it, or where not to look for it etc.    It's easy to post prices of whats common to everyone.

It's not common to free flow giving prices on things that may not be that important or significant to the masses, unless someone asks.    In other words, a well formed question or inquiry on something specific may help those with quality information to provide helpful details.

On the issue of water.   A lot of Airbnbs and some proactive hotels provide water dispensers in their units.   In Sosua, I see most guys going to the supermarket or local colmado to buy small cases of water.   The price on cases of water is not something most guys focus much on in a supermarket or grocery store.

The price of water is more of an issue when dining out somewhere, and ordering a bottle of water to drink.   The price of a bottle of water will be tourist inflated, compared to the 5 gallon water bottle I get from the water plant.   That 5 gallon water bottle price was 35 pesos when I bought my last bottle back in September.   

A 12 oz or 16 oz bottle of water while dining out as a tourist could be anywhere from 60 pesos and up to 100 pesos depending on where one is dining.  Just buying a bottle of cold water from a grocery store, the price will be pretty low.   

Like 15 to 30 pesos, and it will be cold.  Always cheaper in the neighborhoods of locals, than where tourists frequent.    The small colmado on the beach is an excellent place to buy snacks, water or soft drink beverages while lounging on beach chairs.   

One of the things I like about when Im in the Philippines, is the lower cost of soft drink beverages while dining out, even when they are piling on the ice.  Plus most restaurants offer free service water if asked.   In most tourist places in the DR, they dont offer free service water, because they want to make money from serving drinks, even water.   

And now, more and more the vessels that beverages are served in, has gotten smaller.   Cups and glasses. Or they raise the price, if the glasses/cups are the same.   

Where local Haitians or Dominicans dine/eat, pitchers of free water and cups may be on the table.   Thats how many locals operate when they dine together.    Even in the home. The drinking of soda and juice is more of a foreigner practice, and a habit adopted by locals.   An exception is when locals elect to drink cervezas with their meals.  Like at a cookout, at the beach or just in general.   

Most times a visit to a local Dominican restaurant where locals are getting a bargain meal, you will see them drink water.  Not necessarily wasting their money on sweet beverages.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 27, 2024, 08:12:41 AM
That's what I was getting at in a previous post. Sure, advice can be had here for exchange rates, toto/rental car prices and what guys should be paying, however there's little info delving into actual local prices for goods.

Tug, you corrected me on bottled water prices being no more than 30 pesos. Can you gentlemen expound upon this? I've been lucky on a few short squeezes as of late and have money to burn but knowing I'm unfairly paying more for anything would put me in a extremely foul mood. Can't help, got some deep principles.

I don't feel I have ever been unfairly charged for anything is Sosua. You may pay a little less or a little more wherever you end up, but the operators are working to stay open and make a little profit. A burger with fries at the spot of the corner by Bon will be less than $10, at Bailee the same thing with tax added will be about $15 or so. Both fair value for the environment.

On the subject of bottled water, i did pay 15 pesos at a gas station coming back from Santiago to get a bottle of nice cold water into me.

Parking by the lower parking lot of Sosua beach i did not think I would make it to Mofongo King, so I paid 25 pesos at the public bathroom to get it out of me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on April 27, 2024, 08:37:35 AM
That's what I was getting at in a previous post. Sure, advice can be had here for exchange rates, toto/rental car prices and what guys should be paying, however there's little info delving into actual local prices for goods.

Tug, you corrected me on bottled water prices being no more than 30 pesos. Can you gentlemen expound upon this? I've been lucky on a few short squeezes as of late and have money to burn but knowing I'm unfairly paying more for anything would put me in a extremely foul mood. Can't help, got some deep principles.

I don't feel I have ever been unfairly charged for anything is Sosua. You may pay a little less or a little more wherever you end up, but the operators are working to stay open and make a little profit. A burger with fries at the spot of the corner by Bon will be less than $10, at Bailee the same thing with tax added will be about $15 or so. Both fair value for the environment.

On the subject of bottled water, i did pay 15 pesos at a gas station coming back from Santiago to get a bottle of nice cold water into me.

Parking by the lower parking lot of Sosua beach i did not think I would make it to Mofongo King, so I paid 25 pesos at the public bathroom to get it out of me.

Bailee is pretty much charging the equivalent of U.S. based restaurants with its pricing these days.

$15 is roughly the price you pay here in the U.S. for a burger (and maybe some fries, depending on where you go) at most popular mid-tier full service chain restaurants like Chili’s, TGI Friday’s, Red Lobster, IHOP, etc.

Even though Bailee primarily operates with pesos, they have their food priced in such a way that your stronger U.S. currency, whether you exchange it for pesos or not, nets you NO discounted benefit.

This is happening in a lot of places frequented by tourists, not just Bailee, and the f--ked up part about is that this U.S. based pricing model is definitely pinching the locals, who exclusively make their money in pesos. If you’re paying U.S. type prices in pesos, those pesos aren’t going to stretch very far. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 27, 2024, 09:13:40 AM
Yesterday I treated the fellas at Margots restaurant.   One guy had the chicken marsala with rice and veggies. And one small cerveza.     I highly recommend that meal he had.  He said it was good.  It looked great to me. 

Two of us had the fish and chips, and one cerveza ( me nothing to drink ).  We both felt our fish was unseasoned.  It definitely needed the tartar and hot sauce.   Ive tasted much better fish when I was in the states 2 weeks ago, at a local neighborhood spot.    Another guy had a gorgeous slice of chocolate cake ( thats it )

The last dude had some cheese appetizer, then a cheeseburger with fries, and a bottle of water.   Total cost $4,300 pesos.   I think it was either 18% or 28% added to the bill.    Then I added 400 pesos for the tip.    Those guys benefitted from my hospitality because one of those guys I consider him my brother from another mother.   We both have supported each other over the years.  We used to be neighbors as well.    Now were brothers.    He helped me a lot with my house, and my affairs while I was transitioning to living abroad.     

So that bill was basically $80.   One could argue that was too much just for lunch.    I could have taken them to Nonas Dominican restaurant in Sosua, and fed everyone, and with drinks for about $60 USD, but paid it in pesos.

One, the food and the drinks would be cheaper.  There wouldnt be 18% or 28% tax on the bill.   

A local Dominican spot I go to on the highway going towards Cabarete the lunch is 175 pesos for a plate/container.  Rice and beans, meat and salad.   So feeding 5 men , each with one cerveza would cost about $1400 pesos.   Just under $24.    My point here is.   If one is just eating to satisfy hunger, a meal can be had very affordably.

But if it's more about the dining experience, and eating something particular,  the cost of having that can be significantly inflated in a tourist area.   As an expat/vet.   I fluctuate in how I manage my meals daily.   I may pay more mainly when I want something specific to eat.  Or when hanging with other guys.   Other times, I may eat frugally.   I also have no problem eating leftovers.   

I have no set pattern of when I choose to pay more or pay less.   My motivation may strictly lie on what I want to eat in the moment.   On occasion I may be anal on avoiding paying for things I think is not worth it.   Like buying mixed drinks full of ice that arent made well, or the place is stingy on their portions of food.   And of course my disdain for paying 28% tax on a bill that may be equivalent to being able to buy 2 meals at a local Dominican spot. 

At the Playero yesterday, I splurged on buying a rare item they had in the store.  Rica EggNog.   That shit was over 325 pesos for a quart.   I bought two bottles.   That shit costs more than a gallon of gas.   2 bottles is equivalent to $11 USD.   Thats ridiculous when you really pay attention to prices.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bionicsound on April 27, 2024, 12:09:13 PM
Thank you gentlemen. What I gather from what you wrote, is that the USD is ass raping the peso, causing some serious dilution and driving up convenience costs from the locals in gringo hangouts. As fukced as it is, I can't blame them seizing a golden opportunity from tourist ignorance. Still fukced though.

@Murano You treated transient friends out and paid a bit of a premium at what I can assume was a higher end beachfront place? Quality is quality. I could live with something like that.

What I'm effectively trying to ascertain is a ballpark figure of the costs of products overall, not just in the Su but the DR as a whole, most tourist areas excluded.

I know fuel costs are high, but what about tobacco for instance? I pay $10 for a pack of smokes stateside. Case of brew ~$15-$20. Hotel in Santo was $100/night for a 4 star vs $150+ USD. A decent cut of ribeye from a butcher, maybe $25-$35 and so on...

Point is, if I'm in Manhattan, I expect to pay Manhattan prices. Same goes for Anywhereville, Mississippi.

From yalls experiences and viewpoints, how much do you expect to pay for anything in the DR compared to what you'll pay at home or in your birthplace if you're an expat? Trying to be armed with more negotiating prowess, so 50% of US costs, 75% etc?

I'm talking any local good that comes to mind? i.e. a thread mentioned a mango being quoted at 150 pesos when in reality, it was less than 50. Stealing a quote from The Wire, the details matter.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 27, 2024, 01:07:54 PM
2 schools of thought, sure if your on vacation 4 to 7 days and your there for fun  ,enjoy your self,,,, dont over pay for chicas, now if your there for an exstened toime live like a local, your dollar or  meaning when you pay in pesos goes a long way, ,i stayed for 60 days so i was carfule on spending, housing food transportation,,,  Regular budget to maintain a chica well that was costly but i had budget for that, i did find food prices were the same as US,  i did cook all my own food mabey went out to dinner once a week,, So an informed consumer of services and goods you can save money !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 27, 2024, 01:32:34 PM
@Murano You treated transient friends out and paid a bit of a premium at what I can assume was a higher end beachfront place? Quality is quality. I could live with something like that.


To be honest, if the same food me and my buddies had was served at Kings or the Waterfront restaurant.  Each item would have cost a little bit more.  The cervezas and the chocolate cake would have cost a little bit more as well.  Margot's restaurant I dont  exactly consider it higher end and it's not a beachfront establishment.   Me and one of the guys that had the fish and chips, did not consider that a quality meal.  It just looked good on the plate.   

But they do try to provide professional service and ambiance.  To me, it's just a restaurant connected to a hotel that serves mostly tourists or locals that are willing to pay higher prices and the 28% taxes there.   

Margot's is further away from the strip.   Their immediate competition is from the restaurant next door (which used to be called Bologna.  Now it's called Amarone.)   

Bologna/Amarone has been there much longer than Margots.   But Margots has evolved over the years to be a pretty popular restaurant for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.    Their indoor seating is well decorated and has a nice ambiance.   Unlike Bailee's, Margot is not a place where chicas go to hang out, looking for work.

But it is a place one will see guys bringing chicas there to dine, especially if they are staying at the connected hotel Margarita.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on April 27, 2024, 05:30:29 PM
The Ibitis is charged by every place that you will eat at.  They are required to charge it by law.
Most places break it out and charge it separately but at some places it's included in the price.

Look on the menu's at most places and it will tell you if it is included in the price or added to bill.

Now maybe the rice and beans places are not charging it but if your budget dictates that is where you need to be eating at then by all means go for it.


Not every place charges the 10% extra for service but many do.
As a seasoned traveler I have come to understand that ibitis is just part of the travel budget and so is fairly tipping the staff for their service.

They know who the dudes that are barato.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on April 27, 2024, 07:02:38 PM
April 24th 2024.   Sosua El Batey

65 yr old black expat found dead sitting in a chair on his balcony.   Cancer and/or heart failure most likely the cause.   Left behind a Haitian girlfriend, and a daughter he had with her.  Was supporting them both with his retirement funds.  He lived alone.  Without him alive, all support will cease for the Haitian lady and the daughter.     Unclear if he had relatives in the states to contact.


Any other info?? Like, his name?? Hotel or residence??
His name was Eric.  Im not mentioning his last name for now.  Lived across from the former Mary Rose hotel on Alejo Martinez.   Lived in Sosua about the same amount of time as myself.    This is an old military photo of Eric.
Well may the poor guy rest in peace,, hopefully enjoyed his life with his hatain Gf and kid,,, This brings up the subject that many haitain women and some Donimican will seek out a gringo for the long term,,, funny im dealing with on such chica now,,, Once that life suport is gone in that case, they probaly will seek an other gringo,,, there not going to turn to there own kind, unless there well establish or well of donimcan family or savy haitains that succeded,,,Buyer beware if you go down this route,,   they will start of slow asking for stuff,,, if you take them out of the game ,your exspected to pay for every thing, even helping out the family, lets say your chica has elderly parents back in haiti,, there under the gun to suport them and your gonna be asked,,,,,you have to weaigh the cost to benefit's, Number one, unlimited toto when you visit, does she cook and clean will she stay loyal or only have afew extra boy friends or WU guys,,,,,,no matter how good the pussy is you gotta draw the line,,,,,be ware they always want more and some will even say i need an other boy friend or husband haha,,,, true story,,,,,you gotta let them stay in there lane,,,,,be safe have fun      !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 28, 2024, 08:29:00 AM

What I'm effectively trying to ascertain is a ballpark figure of the costs of products overall, not just in the Su but the DR as a whole, most tourist areas excluded.

I know fuel costs are high, but what about tobacco for instance? I pay $10 for a pack of smokes stateside. Case of brew ~$15-$20. Hotel in Santo was $100/night for a 4 star vs $150+ USD. A decent cut of ribeye from a butcher, maybe $25-$35 and so on...

Point is, if I'm in Manhattan, I expect to pay Manhattan prices. Same goes for Anywhereville, Mississippi.

From yalls experiences and viewpoints, how much do you expect to pay for anything in the DR compared to what you'll pay at home or in your birthplace if you're an expat? Trying to be armed with more negotiating prowess, so 50% of US costs, 75% etc?

I'm talking any local good that comes to mind? i.e. a thread mentioned a mango being quoted at 150 pesos when in reality, it was less than 50. Stealing a quote from The Wire, the details matter.
TBH bionicsound.  You can ascertain what things in the DR will cost by just getting down here and finding out for yourself.   I mean really.   I'll bet you that is how most guys found out what things they were interested in costs.   

Pursuing info while here is the best way to get an accurate account of what YOUR costs might be.   For instance, someone here may give an example of tobacco costs.  You get down here and find a place or someone who can get you a lower price or better quality.   If that were to happen, what could be the conclusion?   

Them guys tried to help online, but they didnt have the best information.  Thats why it may be best to just come down here, see for yourself, and do your own research.   

You made the comment  "if I'm in Manhattan, I expect to pay Manhattan prices."   You said that comment, possibly alluding to the potential that prices in Manhattan are expected to be high or higher, correct?

Well, Sosua/DR and Manhattan both have something in common.   As far as price is concerned, Manhattan prices can vary and are subjective depending on where the expense takes place.   For instance,  a person can go to a Dominican restaurant in Manhattan and get a meal for $15.   But they can also go to a restaurant in Manhattan and pay $80 for a similar meal.   Both places offered Manhattan prices, but both places were not equal in terms of expense.

Sosua/DR is no different.   Sosua/DR prices can vary and is subjective to where one gets their goods or services from.    I got a pedicure the other day from a lady that used to operate on the beach.   She charged me 700 pesos.   But Im reasonably sure, when tourists stop by her shop, she may charge them 1000 or more for a pedicure.

Further down towards Ahnvee there is a salon that may charge me 500 or 600 pesos for a pedicure.   Is the cheaper option worth it?   It's hard to know, unless I try them out.   For the time being, I got it done by someone I knew could do the job, because she had done it before. 

Which also goes to show, in some instances, it's not only where you go, but who you know, or who knows you.   One good thing any vacationer can do.  Is to come down here and be sociable.  Connect with some vets or expats who are already in Sosua.   In person and face to face is one of the best ways to get quality information.     

Other than that, nothing wrong with trial and error.  Thats part of the learning curve that a lot of vets had to go through.  Sometimes guys have to accept that reality.  Not every lesson or piece of info can be sorted out before one gets here.    I know guys that come to Sosua, and they still dont know how to navigate around town.   Dont know the streets or landmarks.   My guys the other day got lost trying to get downtown.    They literally walked around in a circle and ended up back to where they started.   LOL. 

But guess what?   After doing that shit, they learned.  The hard way, but they learned.   Same for one of those guys that met the chicks the other day at Playero.   Both chicks arranged to smash those guys.   The price was supposed to be $60.   

For some strange reason, one of the guys paid the chick 7000 pesos.    He did not know the value of the money he was paying the girl with.   He thought he was paying her what they agreed to.   Found out later, he made a huge mistake.   

He could have asked me or the other two guys before making that mistake.  A lot of mistakes are made, because some cats are just not wise in how they handle themselves.  Dont forsee potential problems.   

The other dude, paid his provider what they agreed to.   The $60, that the other guy negotiated, but ended up over paying.    Thats how it is.  You come to Sosua, and your learning curve for almost everything starts when boots are on the ground.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 28, 2024, 10:05:07 AM
Saturday the sky opened up.   Rained hard much of the day.  Sosua streets flooded.  I can only imagine what happened again in the other towns nearby.    At some point the rain stopped, and the flooded water in the streets receded into the sewer system.

Then later it rained hard again.  I sat through it at Tiki Wiki watching the street action.   

Now it's Sunday morning, still raining.   I think the forecast says it will rain more next week.  The area has had several brown outs over night, and more this morning.   My emergency generator kicks in each time.   

Here in Sosua, it pays to buy those backup UPS units for ones crib.  For the internet, and for other things where one does not want interrupted power.   It's definitely best for a complex to have an emergency back up generator.   

Inverter batteries are ok, but in a small unit, they typically dont provide full back up power to certain appliances, like a fridge/freezer or airconditioner.  Inverter back up , is mainly good for powering outlets and lights for a few hours.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 28, 2024, 02:21:04 PM
Stayed in a place that only had an inverter, never again!!! Over the 2 weeks (2018) had no power for 5 days in total, every Sunday it was like clockwork 9-10 am, nada!!!! I don't think its any better now, maybe worse? I stayed for 4 months over the last 15, same place, the generator was on alot!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 28, 2024, 04:06:35 PM
Sunday April 28th, 2024

Lunch at Terra Linda restaurant.   At least I thought it was still called Terra Linda until I looked at the receipt I kept.   On the receipt it says Hotel Costa Tropical.   So maybe thats the new name of the restaurant and the hotel.   Nobody, especially myself paid any attention to the signs outside, nor the name on the menu.

Anyway, 4 of us had lunch here today.  Attached is a copy of the bill, so people can see the 28% taxes that is applied to the bill.   The breakdown is.....18% Itbis taxes was 669 pesos ( or $11.38 usd )    &

The 10% Ley or service charge was 372 pesos ( or 6.38 usd ).   Combined thats 28% taxes ( 17.71 usd ).

The food and drink alone was 3,720 pesos ( or 63.30 )
Add the food/drink and taxes together and the total is 4,761.60 pesos ( or 81.01 usd )

But look at the bottom of the bill.   They tell you what to pay if paying in USD.  $95 if paying in USD.  You have to pay $14 dollars more if one pays with US currency.    This is one of the main reasons I do not like dining out at tourist traps.  1st off, generally speaking......for the Dominican Republic, the food and drink price was inflated. 

And having to pay $14 more just to pay with USD is adding insult to injury.   They clobber you with the f--ked up taxes, part of which is really the gratuity, supposedly for the staff.   And then they shit on you by giving you a horrible exchange rate if you pay in USD.   Then they take your USD, and they exchange it to get more pesos.

The 18% tax and/or the 10% Ley tax is enough to pay for 2 to 5 meals depending on where you go. The guys still put a tip ( about 300 pesoss ) in the sleeve when the server came back with their change.   The total bill was paid in pesos.   

Food :
Two of us had the jerk chicken with rice and sweet plantains.
One had the red snapper
One had the shrimp scampi pasta.

Drinks :
Two Presidentes
One cranberry juice
One apple juice.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 28, 2024, 04:36:22 PM
In the Philippines, if one can find similar food we consumed in Sosua, the total bill would have been slashed in half. 

Where I live in the Philippines, I was getting seafood platters or grilled salmon meals for  less than 600 pesos, each.  Soft drink beverages like ice tea or lemonade usually come in big glasses.   In some places, refills of sweet tea is complimentary.   Usually you dont see any major additions to a dining bill.   10% in some cases.  Tipping percentage is optional.   Not like in the states where 15% tip is the minimal that is given or expected.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on April 28, 2024, 05:18:59 PM
What you don't say, is almost 5000p. was a good price for the meals ? It was lunch after all!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on April 28, 2024, 07:14:01 PM
A couple of days ago someone was talking about choosing USD on the credit card vs pesos... Case in point right here. When using a card always choose the local currency and let your bank do the exchange.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bingoman on April 30, 2024, 05:15:04 PM
I got only 57.6 per USD today, the cambio guy said he expected it to go further down this week.

There was a slim-thick fair girl working the strip from the corner to Matteos today.
Found another near Margots but she was already taken.

Saw the Giamo guy near the moneygram shop, talking to an American in a car and they were talking about his youtube videos, didnt bother talking. May be will ask him what he is upto if I see him again.

Havent stopped at Baileys so far, seemed crowded this afternoon
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 30, 2024, 05:55:23 PM
I got only 57.6 per USD today, the cambio guy said he expected it to go further down this week.

There was a slim-thick fair girl working the strip from the corner to Matteos today.
Found another near Margots but she was already taken.

Saw the Giamo guy near the moneygram shop, talking to an American in a car and they were talking about his youtube videos, didnt bother talking. May be will ask him what he is upto if I see him again.

Havent stopped at Baileys so far, seemed crowded this afternoon
Caribe Express was offering 57.75 as of 12pm in the afternoon.  It's possible that who ever you went to was offering the tourist upsell.   Where Caribe Express and possibly Mapello ( the mobile exchange genteleman ) were still offering 57.75.   

It is true, that within a weeks time the exchange rate has been slipping.    When I got back around the 16th of April, Caribe Express was offering 58.10.     Then it started slipping each day I passed by.     About 5 days ago Caribe Express was offering 57.80.   

If one were exchanging hundreds or thousands of US dollars,  those small changes in the rate can make a difference.  Like paying for gas in ones pasola, or paying for a drink or food.    The 1st day in Sosua my friends went to Playero,  they only got 57 to 1.   A few minutes earlier one of the other guys got 57.80 from Mapello.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on April 30, 2024, 05:58:08 PM
I got only 57.6 per USD today, the cambio guy said he expected it to go further down this week.


BTW what cambio guy did you go to?   What ever you do, do not go to the cambio guy directly across from Kings on Pedro Clisante.   You may get the wrong amount and/or some fake bills.   And if you turn your back to walk away and suddenly discover he gave you the wrong amount, he's gonna deny it.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bingoman on April 30, 2024, 09:02:52 PM
I got only 57.6 per USD today, the cambio guy said he expected it to go further down this week.


BTW what cambio guy did you go to?   What ever you do, do not go to the cambio guy directly across from Kings on Pedro Clisante.   You may get the wrong amount and/or some fake bills.   And if you turn your back to walk away and suddenly discover he gave you the wrong amount, he's gonna deny it.   


I went to cambio in Plaza Colonial, which is open only 9-5. Quite upfront, gives a printed slip as well. People have warned about the one across Kings.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 01, 2024, 10:50:29 AM
I got only 57.6 per USD today, the cambio guy said he expected it to go further down this week.


BTW what cambio guy did you go to?   What ever you do, do not go to the cambio guy directly across from Kings on Pedro Clisante.   You may get the wrong amount and/or some fake bills.   And if you turn your back to walk away and suddenly discover he gave you the wrong amount, he's gonna deny it.   


I went to cambio in Plaza Colonial, which is open only 9-5. Quite upfront, gives a printed slip as well. People have warned about the one across Kings.
FYI, that guy at Plaza Colonial is one of the safest exchange places, but sometimes his rate may be slightly lower than Caribe Express or Mapello, the Mobile exchange guy.   I also believe he sizes up individuals that seem new to him and alone.  Especially if they are not there exchanging with other guys.   

I took one of my friends to Plaza Colonial and the rate was 57.60.  At the time Caribe Express was offering 57.80    There could be a reason for that.   The dude was only exchanging $100.    I think the more one exchanges the better the rate may be offered.    I noticed that has been the case with Mapello.   He asks how much a person is exchanging, and he will assign the rate based on how much one is exchanging.   

Exchanging lets say $500 and up, one may get a better rate.  That may apply to several places/cambios.   But if somebody is only exchanging $100, one might get the base exchange rate.    I do not think Caribe Express varies their exchange rate depending on how much one is exchanging, but I could be mistaken. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 01, 2024, 08:42:29 PM
I think you might be right on better rate for lager amounts. I use Plaza Colonial all the time, the rate always seem to be higher for $300 or more. Just thought the daily had changed, or both. I will keep that in mind, thanks.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 02, 2024, 06:30:21 PM
Thursday May 2, 2024.    Had lunch at Fat Jesses. 

Later posted up at Tiki Wiki until 6:45pm

While there, plenty of chicas out on patrol as usual.  Around 230 pm a pair of chicas were arguing on the street, Dr Rosen side of Rumbas.   One of the girls who walked away, crossed the street by Tiki Wiki.  Seconds later the chica she was arguing with came up behind her, stopped briefly to go into the metal garbage can on the corner to find a bottle.

Then she started going after the other girl.  The girl took off running.  Just before she got to the sidewalk, the girl in pursuit threw the bottle at her.  Just barely missing her.  The aggressive one, picked up a broken piece, to continue after the girl.   The girl being chased ran into the liquor store.

Didnt take long, a pair of Politur Police on a motorbike showed up.  Minutes later several  combat ready officers showed up.   I guess they were looking to arrest the girl that threw the bottle.  Plus they scared the daylights out of all of the chicks that were standing around by the liquor store and the back alley where chicas stay, watching the drama unfold.

Around 530 pm the Politur Police came out in numbers with their vehicles to take control of the corners and the streets.   At this point, all chicas knew not be caught standing around or on patrol.   The police also was making motorbikes move from being parked too close to the corner, outside of the parking lane.   

Down the street across from Kings, the Police had their paddy wagon and pickup trucks set up to arrest chicas.   They were about the business of arresting chicas and taking them off the streets.

Last Monday, one of my guys had briefly stopped a chick on Dr Rosen by Rumba.  She took his number, and they parted company.  Seconds later, she must have spotted some Politur police eyeballing her from a distance.  Because she immediately turned around to try to reconnect with him and act she was with him. 

Those cops werent having it.  They grabbed her, and took her to jail, with her pleading for my man to come to the jail to bail her out.   For a brief moment he was actually trying to help her, by claiming she was with him.  But the cops were not entertaining that.   I tried to get his attention, telling him to let it go.   Let them do their job.

Let her pleas for your help/assistance fall on deaf ears.   Chick ended up spending the night.  Got released in the morning.  Then sent my buddy voice messages asking why he didnt come to the jailhouse to bail her out.   I listened to her message.  Everything she said was in perfect English as if she was from the US.   

I have my doubts on whether or not she would have thanked my man with a quality session for coming to bail her out.      BTW since Im on the subject.   What is the protocol when chicks are arrested?   Can they pay a certain amount so they dont have to get locked up?    Even if they stay over night and they are released in the morning,  do they have to pay anything then or later?    How much do the chicks have to pay for getting caught or for their freedom?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 02, 2024, 07:04:57 PM
I'm told the ATM withdrawal fees at Banco Reservas and Banco Popular is 300 pesos per transaction.   Im assuming any bank in the DR is charging the same for ATM withdrawals vs the 250 pesos it used to be.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe even Banco Nacional is charging an ATM fee per transaction.  It used to be free to make withdrawals at Banco Nacional.   

Additionally, I learned that Banco Reservas only allows one to withdraw only up to 10k pesos per transaction.   Banco Popular supposedly allows one to withdraw up to 20k pesos per transaction.   

Yesterday I received my new replacement Charles Schwab Visa card from DHL in PP.   Activated the card, and then went to use it at Banco Nacional.  Only to find out that the ATM machine was down.   

This card replacement has been a pain in the ass.  Because now Charles Schwabs computer system seems to need to relearn my usage habits.  Several attempts of me using the card while in the DR for my routine expenses, were flagged as if fraud was being committed.   

And yes, I have my travel notice of me being in the DR already established.  It's to the point that I may need to contact CS beforehand, to avoid having to verify my transactions that I have been doing for several years.   The problem is, many of my routine transactions are not always for DR expenditures.   Kudos to CS system trying to protect it's customers, and it's own interests.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 02, 2024, 10:07:46 PM
Thursday May 2, 2024.    Had lunch at Fat Jesses. 

Later posted up at Tiki Wiki until 6:45pm

While there, plenty of chicas out on patrol as usual.  Around 230 pm a pair of chicas were arguing on the street, Dr Rosen side of Rumbas.   One of the girls who walked away, crossed the street by Tiki Wiki.  Seconds later the chica she was arguing with came up behind her, stopped briefly to go into the metal garbage can on the corner to find a bottle.

Then she started going after the other girl.  The girl took off running.  Just before she got to the sidewalk, the girl in pursuit threw the bottle at her.  Just barely missing her.  The aggressive one, picked up a broken piece, to continue after the girl.   The girl being chased ran into the liquor store.

Didnt take long, a pair of Politur Police on a motorbike showed up.  Minutes later several  combat ready officers showed up.   I guess they were looking to arrest the girl that threw the bottle.  Plus they scared the daylights out of all of the chicks that were standing around by the liquor store and the back alley where chicas stay, watching the drama unfold.

Around 530 pm the Politur Police came out in numbers with their vehicles to take control of the corners and the streets.   At this point, all chicas knew not be caught standing around or on patrol.   The police also was making motorbikes move from being parked too close to the corner, outside of the parking lane.   

Down the street across from Kings, the Police had their paddy wagon and pickup trucks set up to arrest chicas.   They were about the business of arresting chicas and taking them off the streets.

Last Monday, one of my guys had briefly stopped a chick on Dr Rosen by Rumba.  She took his number, and they parted company.  Seconds later, she must have spotted some Politur police eyeballing her from a distance.  Because she immediately turned around to try to reconnect with him and act she was with him. 

Those cops werent having it.  They grabbed her, and took her to jail, with her pleading for my man to come to the jail to bail her out.   For a brief moment he was actually trying to help her, by claiming she was with him.  But the cops were not entertaining that.   I tried to get his attention, telling him to let it go.   Let them do their job.

Let her pleas for your help/assistance fall on deaf ears.   Chick ended up spending the night.  Got released in the morning.  Then sent my buddy voice messages asking why he didnt come to the jailhouse to bail her out.   I listened to her message.  Everything she said was in perfect English as if she was from the US.   

I have my doubts on whether or not she would have thanked my man with a quality session for coming to bail her out.      BTW since Im on the subject.   What is the protocol when chicks are arrested?   Can they pay a certain amount so they dont have to get locked up?    Even if they stay over night and they are released in the morning,  do they have to pay anything then or later?    How much do the chicks have to pay for getting caught or for their freedom?   

My understanding is if they’re arrested you can’t bail them out. They need to spend the night in the slammer. It’s a professional hazard of working the street. One of my regulars claims to have been arrested at least eight times. For whatever reason she finds it funny.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 03, 2024, 04:38:42 AM
@Jazzy.....It's obvious there are different opinions and perspectives on what the protocols may be.   Plus some things may have changed over years and months in how the police handle the girls.  Im kinda wondering if different outcomes also happen depending on the whims of the officers at the time?   

And do the cops take bribes before getting arrested chicks to the station?   Like if they pick up a chick on a motorbike, while out of sight of their supervisors.   In the past, Ive seen chicks pulled off the street, placed in the pickup truck, but a few minutes later saw them right back on the street.   What I dont know, is why were they released?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 03, 2024, 05:17:42 AM
Since Ive been back to Sosua, as of yesterday I think I know what has been bothering me about what appears to have happened to Sosua in a negative way.  Ironically, it's not necessarily the girls this time.  Although I could focus on them too.

But the major problem I see, is that there are too many Dominican and Haitian local men hanging around Sosua ALL damn day.   It's these muthablubbas that are ruining the laid back vibe that Sosua once had.   Sosua has become loud and obnoxious at times.

Everywhere you look there are Dominican and Haitian local men that have filled up the town with their presence.  Back in the day, you saw a few male hustlers, and a decent amount of harmless motoconchos.   Now the Dominican and Haitian male representation seems to have increased dramatically over the years. 

Just the traffic alone of cars, and motorbikes all up and down the street is an eye and ear sore.  Many of the kids in Sosua that we watched when they were young, are now fully grown adults.   

There is major drug trafficking going on all over Sosua.  So that means a lot more hustle and bustle going on with moving product, and accommodating customers.  Bikes, cars and 4 wheelers speeding and racing around town.   Some of which are about servicing clients around town.   

Bottom line there are too many local men hanging around Sosua all damn day.    There may even be enough that are actually living in Sosua now, so they dont have far to go, getting back to their hustle. 

Just look around.  Everywhere you look, motorbikes of men are parked everywhere.  And if they arent parked, they are on the road zipping around recklessly.   It's hard for some non hustlers and foreigners with cars to drive peacefully, and also find a place to park close to a venue where they are going.   Look at the traffic on the highway.   Sosua traffic volume and aggressiveness wasnt always like that.   

Combine the male tourists that are in Sosua with the local DR/Haitian male representation and p4p gays, and Sosua almost appears to be a major sausage fest, compared to the amount of p4p women represented in Sosua.   

Sosua was much better when there was significantly less local males hanging around Sosua all day.   Back in the day, Sosua had hustlers but it did not appear to be like it is today.   A visit to the Texaco gas station can result in a long wait at times, because a bunch of local males are trying to get gas for their bikes.

And like I mentioned before.  A lot of the Gen X and Millennial hustlers are grown now.  We also have a new breed of beggars & young boy hustlers, coming up behind them fast.   Another thing to factor in, how a certain % of chicks in Sosua have been taken down by drug use.   Women we see, and the ones we dont see anymore.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Henny White on May 03, 2024, 08:55:08 AM
We were just saying this same shit last night lol. A whole bunch of local bozos is just lurking. That corner bar across from Kings had damn near all men in it! -and what the Fuk is up with the Mooks? Shit is getting real out of control wit them slinging that boy butt smh
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 03, 2024, 01:58:37 PM
We were just saying this same shit last night lol. A whole bunch of local bozos is just lurking. That corner bar across from Kings had damn near all men in it! -and what the Fuk is up with the Mooks? Shit is getting real out of control wit them slinging that boy butt smh

I’ve been waiting on someone to say something about the number of transvestites working the strip. In the last few weeks on the weekends there have been consistently more than 10 parading up and down Pedro. And they’re in the open mixed amongst the girls.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Coochie93 on May 03, 2024, 03:35:41 PM
Since Ive been back to Sosua, as of yesterday I think I know what has been bothering me about what appears to have happened to Sosua in a negative way.  Ironically, it's not necessarily the girls this time.  Although I could focus on them too.

But the major problem I see, is that there are too many Dominican and Haitian local men hanging around Sosua ALL damn day.   It's these muthablubbas that are ruining the laid back vibe that Sosua once had.   Sosua has become loud and obnoxious at times.

Everywhere you look there are Dominican and Haitian local men that have filled up the town with their presence.  Back in the day, you saw a few male hustlers, and a decent amount of harmless motoconchos.   Now the Dominican and Haitian male representation seems to have increased dramatically over the years. 

Just the traffic alone of cars, and motorbikes all up and down the street is an eye and ear sore.  Many of the kids in Sosua that we watched when they were young, are now fully grown adults.   

There is major drug trafficking going on all over Sosua.  So that means a lot more hustle and bustle going on with moving product, and accommodating customers.  Bikes, cars and 4 wheelers speeding and racing around town.   Some of which are about servicing clients around town.   

Bottom line there are too many local men hanging around Sosua all damn day.    There may even be enough that are actually living in Sosua now, so they dont have far to go, getting back to their hustle. 

Just look around.  Everywhere you look, motorbikes of men are parked everywhere.  And if they arent parked, they are on the road zipping around recklessly.   It's hard for some non hustlers and foreigners with cars to drive peacefully, and also find a place to park close to a venue where they are going.   Look at the traffic on the highway.   Sosua traffic volume and aggressiveness wasnt always like that.   

Combine the male tourists that are in Sosua with the local DR/Haitian male representation and p4p gays, and Sosua almost appears to be a major sausage fest, compared to the amount of p4p women represented in Sosua.   

Sosua was much better when there was significantly less local males hanging around Sosua all day.   Back in the day, Sosua had hustlers but it did not appear to be like it is today.   A visit to the Texaco gas station can result in a long wait at times, because a bunch of local males are trying to get gas for their bikes.

And like I mentioned before.  A lot of the Gen X and Millennial hustlers are grown now.  We also have a new breed of beggars & young boy hustlers, coming up behind them fast.   Another thing to factor in, how a certain % of chicks in Sosua have been taken down by drug use.   Women we see, and the ones we dont see anymore.
why do you think there are so many local men? Because the notoriety and influx of male foreigners now which means more people to fleece and maybe the latino machoism of having other men come and f--k "their" women.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Coochie93 on May 03, 2024, 03:37:11 PM
We were just saying this same shit last night lol. A whole bunch of local bozos is just lurking. That corner bar across from Kings had damn near all men in it! -and what the Fuk is up with the Mooks? Shit is getting real out of control wit them slinging that boy butt smh

I’ve been waiting on someone to say something about the number of transvestites working the strip. In the last few weeks on the weekends there have been consistently more than 10 parading up and down Pedro. And they’re in the open mixed amongst the girls.

good god almighty. Welp for anyone reading this, make sure you stay about your wits and don't drink too much.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 03, 2024, 08:16:23 PM

why do you think there are so many local men? Because the notoriety and influx of male foreigners now which means more people to fleece and maybe the latino machoism of having other men come and f--k "their" women.
It's really quite simple.  Sosua is regarded as a place locals can earn a daily living.  It's not just chicas that need money.  Local men need money too.   

Local men who dont have regular jobs come to Sosua for :
Basically because foreigners bring a lot of money to Sosua.

A local male can :
 
Be a motoconcho/taxi driver
Be a beggar for handouts, get free money, food or drink.  Especially from foreigners
One can sell products like male enhancement substances to foreigners at a mark up
One can pimp chicas, or act as a go between for chicas or mongers hooking up.
One can sell or deliver drugs
One can act as tour guides, hired protectors, or hired escorts to help foreigners that cant speak up for themselves.
Act as a handyman
Be a go fetch it helper or errand runner. 
One can find vulnerable foreigners to hustle and or cheat out of their money.
Fill in the blank in regards to any deviant shit__________that also goes on in Sosua.

The thing is, I feel it seems like there is more local male representation is because a lot of the old hustlers have not gone anywhere.  And young boys who started hustling years ago are now grown.   Put them all together, and thats why it seems as if the male representation of locals has increased.   At least it has from where I sit.   

We also have to consider, the local male representation from regular employment.   A lot of local men have regular jobs in Sosua too.   



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Coochie93 on May 03, 2024, 08:52:08 PM

why do you think there are so many local men? Because the notoriety and influx of male foreigners now which means more people to fleece and maybe the latino machoism of having other men come and f--k "their" women.
It's really quite simple.  Sosua is regarded as a place locals can earn a daily living.  It's not just chicas that need money.  Local men need money too.   

Local men who dont have regular jobs come to Sosua for :
Basically because foreigners bring a lot of money to Sosua.

A local male can :
 
Be a motoconcho/taxi driver
Be a beggar for handouts, get free money, food or drink.  Especially from foreigners
One can sell products like male enhancement substances to foreigners at a mark up
One can pimp chicas, or act as a go between for chicas or mongers hooking up.
One can sell or deliver drugs
One can act as tour guides, hired protectors, or hired escorts to help foreigners that cant speak up for themselves.
Act as a handyman
Be a go fetch it helper or errand runner. 
One can find vulnerable foreigners to hustle and or cheat out of their money.
Fill in the blank in regards to any deviant shit__________that also goes on in Sosua.

The thing is, I feel it seems like there is more local male representation is because a lot of the old hustlers have not gone anywhere.  And young boys who started hustling years ago are now grown.   Put them all together, and thats why it seems as if the male representation of locals has increased.   At least it has from where I sit.   

We also have to consider, the local male representation from regular employment.   A lot of local men have regular jobs in Sosua too.

that's nuts, people paying for that dumbass shit?!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 03, 2024, 10:47:12 PM
We were just saying this same shit last night lol. A whole bunch of local bozos is just lurking. That corner bar across from Kings had damn near all men in it! -and what the Fuk is up with the Mooks? Shit is getting real out of control wit them slinging that boy butt smh

And this is where things get more dangerous. Strap up gentlemen.

As more and more bisexual (gay men) get in the mix amongst what’s already a smaller pool of chicas, that’s when more and more STD’s, including HIV & AIDS really start popping.

As you might already know, the gay crowd is a high risk group. So as the increase in trannies brings more switch-hitters into town, things get more and more risky. Syphilis, drug resistant gonorrhea, etc.

The chicas who know better are not gonna f--k with dudes who they suspect are gay. However, there are a lot of chicas who don’t know better and don’t understand the greater risk, so fellas, remain vigilant, and educate your chica roster so they know not to f--k with gay dudes or any dude they observe leaving with trannies.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 04, 2024, 07:54:17 AM
Yup you got switch hitters bi men maby a few bi chicas i, if there cum swapping and other freaky shit, correct the Aids Monster can Appear !so strap up sirs         !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 04, 2024, 11:03:06 AM
Im repulsed by gay men and male homosexual behavior.   However, I dont believe people need the excuse of gay men or trannies connecting in Sosua to justify protecting themselves.   Many of the diseases people should be concerned about probably come directly from foreigners ( they dont have to be gay or a tranny ), that come to the DR, who have the capacity to infect hundreds and thousands of people.   

And as local women interact with these carriers from various countries, the risk of infection to dozens of people, that should be just as much of a concern.   With that, educating chicas about gay men or trannies, is a lost cause.   What infectious diseases are women themselves bringing to the sexual market place?   

The HIV virus and later AIDS, was a targeted plandemic where homo sexual males were injected with substances under the guise of helping or preventing something.  They were used as guinea pigs/experimentation.   The result was causing masses of those people to become sick or ill.   

They did the same thing to people in other countries on other continents.   Went there as humanitarians, and infected the population with immune compromising substances.   And then offered them, the antidote.  Which had the opposite result of what they said it was for.   Does that sound familiar?

Back then in America, they went with the narrative that it had something to do with gays infecting each other through sexual contact.   When the real story was that people were injected with poison.   The idea was, to make people believe that it was simply about a gay and promiscuous lifestyle which was the cause of HIV.   They added drug use, and other things to sweeten the narrative, to make it more believable.

Next came the bogus and totally unreliable HIV tests.   Then the drugs to take to prevent one from developing AIDS from HIV.  Which lead to massive illnesses & deaths.  Drugs like AZT was given, but instead of helping people, it destroyed people.  But HIV leading to AIDS got the blame.  Sound familiar?   People were totally unaware that anti AIDS drugs was really the culprit.   Instead the gay or down low lifestyle got the blame.   And we bought it hook, line and sinker. 

Point being.  Dont make gay sexual relations the scapegoat for choosing to protect yourself.  Protect yourself because a lot of people that travel abroad are just f--ked up with all kinds of diseases and dont give a f--k about other peoples health or safety, especially a prostitute.   

Gay sex is always going to be around.  If it was all about gay sex being the ultimate cause of HIV/AIDS, more people would have been infected daily & dead a long time ago.   Of course if you go after gays and trannies and deliberately infect them, expect them to get sick and die.  It's not because they are gay that they got sick or died.  It's because they were targeted.   Heterosexual people that infected or died, were just collateral damage.  Acceptable losses.   

The real health concerns should be towards avoiding being infected with diseases that are hard to cure and manage.  Herpes, Syphilis, other forms of diseases etc.  And also immune compromising diseases some people derived from getting unnecessary Covid shots and boosters for the last 3 plus years.   Many people are going to be exposed to sick people whose immune system has been compromised and weakened by injections, boosters and hard core drug use.   

Were not going to be able to put the blame mostly on gays and trannies if and when that happens to enough people.   A wise course of action, is to do a good job at boosting ones immune system, or at least not tearing it down.   The truth is, many diseases are around us every hour of the day.   The main reason many of us are surviving these diseases, is because our immune systems is doing it's job.   Your immune system doesnt tell you what it's dealing with, it just does what it is supposed to do, if you let it and help it.       

Knock on wood.  My entire life, I dont believe I ever suffered or obtained a sexually transmitted disease.   And if I did unknowingly, my body must have dealt with it, and took care of me.     

         
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 04, 2024, 07:31:27 PM
Murano,

I agree with what you’re saying. Dudes should strap up anyway, but the gay/tranny phenomenon unfolding in Sosua should also serve as an urgent wake up call and reminder to those who have been moving recklessly to straighten up.

It’s a medical fact that homosexual sex and IV drug use are the highest risk factors for HIV/AIDS. And of course with that, comes opportunistic STD infections; some which are of the super strain variety.

I understand that no one wants to scapegoat anyone or anything, but facts are facts.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 05, 2024, 09:30:34 AM
Murano,

I agree with what you’re saying. Dudes should strap up anyway, but the gay/tranny phenomenon unfolding in Sosua should also serve as an urgent wake up call and reminder to those who have been moving recklessly to straighten up.

It’s a medical fact that homosexual sex and IV drug use are the highest risk factors for HIV/AIDS. And of course with that, comes opportunistic STD infections; some which are of the super strain variety.

I understand that no one wants to scapegoat anyone or anything, but facts are facts.
I agree that IV drug use SHARING may increase one's risk of being exposed to HIV.   I dont readily connect that homosexual sex is a risk factor for HIV.    I do support the premise that if one is Infected with HIV, that individual maybe capable of transmitting HIV regardless of their sexual orientation. 

Not because they were homosexuals having sex, and thats supposed to result in HIV transmission.   What about all the homosexuals that have been having sex with each other for years, but never contracted HIV?    What saved their butts?   Why are they the exception.  Do certain homosexual butts matter in who is at risk from who isnt at risk?   Pun intended.   

During the 80's hundreds of thousands of gay men were injected with Hepatitis vaccines all across America.  That resulted in a lot of illnesses and a lot of deaths.  The mechanism of transmission of infection was because homosexual men were infecting each other.  Sex was the mechanism of transmission.   Not that sex between homosexuals causes HIV.   Thats the main part I want to make sure were both being clear on.

Also during that time, heterosexual people were also subject to infection.  At some point you didnt need a homosexual to infect a heterosexual individual.  HIV infection got around to anybody.   Many men, women and children got their HIV infections from tainted blood.   And that was no accident.   Im talking maybe hundreds of thousands of people.

What Im getting at is this.  HIV is not a pandemic of homosexual behavior,  just like Covid wasnt a pandemic of the unvaccinated like the way they made us believe.   

The mechanism of injury may typically come by way of sexual contact, but one or both individuals need to be infected and/or susceptible to transmission.   Also, one can get an HIV infection from HIV tainted blood. 

Sexual orientation of the individual infected is not significant.       My point is.......infection may have affected homosexuals over the last few decades the most because they were targeted for infection through the hepatitus vaccination program.   And later through offering gays and heterosexuals life ending drugs like AZT.    Since then HIV has managed to make it's way through humans regardless of sexual orientation.   

Where are the masses of illnesses and deaths from HIV today coming from gays primarily?   Once the experimental vaccinations with gays were phased out, notice how concern of HIV infections in America sort of phased out, or has been mitigated.

HIV infection doesnt distinguish whether we are heterosexual or homosexual.   The only thing that matters is if an infected person, regardless of sexual orientation, is a carrier, and whether or not the other party is fortunate enough to survive being exposed to an infected individual. 

Another important thing to consider.   It's been a few decades since HIV and AIDS in the US was a major daily concern.  Since then people have been more relaxed about the threat of HIV transmission.   In the last 2 decades, how much has HIV or AIDS transmission or infection been a factor in Sosua, or the DR overall?......or how about with health officials in the USA knowing foreigners frequent places like the DR?     

If we never paid attention to the extra gays and trannies in Sosua,  would we even be having this conversation?    Gays and trannies have been in Sosua.   They didnt just appear out of nowhere.   What is the HIV rate of infection or status in Sosua today?   

I may not be privy to what some aspects of social and sexual behavior in the US these days, but has the concern from heterosexuals in the US contracting HIV mitigated somewhat since the 80's and 90s when HIV and AIDS was a major concern?    Or are people still extremely concerned about HIV infection from anybody?   

I know Im all over the place and wordy as a muthablubba, but I hope I made some sense. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 05, 2024, 11:12:35 AM

What Im getting at is this.  HIV is not a pandemic of homosexual behavior,  just like Covid wasnt a pandemic of the unvaccinated like the way they made us believe.   

The mechanism of injury may typically come by way of sexual contact, but one or both individuals need to be infected and/or susceptible to transmission.   Also, one can get an HIV infection from HIV tainted blood. 

Sexual orientation of the individual infected is not significant.       My point is.......infection may have affected homosexuals over the last few decades the most because they were targeted for infection through the hepatitus vaccination program.   And later through offering gays and heterosexuals life ending drugs like AZT.    Since then HIV has managed to make it's way through humans regardless of sexual orientation.   

Where are the masses of illnesses and deaths from HIV today coming from gays primarily?   Once the experimental vaccinations with gays were phased out, notice how HIV infections in America sort of phased out, or has been mitigated.

HIV infection doesnt distinguish whether we are heterosexual or homosexual.   The only thing that matters is if an infected person, regardless of sexual orientation, is a carrier, and whether or not the other party is fortunate enough to survive being exposed to an infected individual. 

That’s actually inaccurate. HIV/AIDS (in the beginning & presently) is indeed and primarily a pandemic of homosexual behavior.

That’s not to say that heterosexuals haven’t been heavily impacted, but if you look at the stats and look at the health-targeting campaigns in any major city, you’ll notice there’s always a heavy ad focus toward gay populations. This is not part of a generalized health campaign, but a very specific one for THEM.

Homosexual sex between men (primarily anal) makes that population more susceptible to infection and transmission. This is due to the fact that membranes of the anus are more susceptible to tearing and damage as an orifice that wasn’t naturally designed for penetrative lubrication. Additionally, medical research has also shined major light on how the HIV/AIDS virus damages, alters, and proliferates in the microbiome of the gut, making secretions of the gut and anus (not even blood) extraordinarily infectious, in tandem with microscopic tearing of the anal/rectal membrane through sex.

This is how and why HIV/AIDS devastated the gay community at warp speed when it first appeared in the very late 70’s and early 80’s. When you also consider the general promiscuity of men in general and factor in that same promiscuity in dealing with other men, you have a perfect storm of rapid infection (and tainted blood) passed around through IV drug use, blood transfusions, etc., before the world at large even realized what was going on.

Bisexual men (switch-hitters as I call them) were instrumental in spreading HIV/AIDS to the heterosexual population. They weren’t the only vectors, but they played a large part in it, and continue to do so.

As to the origins of HIV/AIDS itself? We all know it didn’t just walk out of the forest and jump people, but like you mentioned, it appears that it was indeed introduced through a flawed vaccination program back in the day. Was this deliberate? It’s anyone’s guess, but I think it was definitely deliberate.

In a nutshell, sexual orientation when it comes to HIV/AIDS was and still is significant, because of the variation and prevalence of certain high risk behaviors that we can demonstrably attach to certain groups. Outside of orientation, lifestyle factors also play into that. IV drug use, prostitution, etc. You already know.

There are less people dying from HIV/AIDS today because of course, advances in medicine have made it a profitable (but still deadly) chronic illness. As a result of this change, and considering how long HIV/AIDS has been around, we’re not gonna hear the reports that we used to hear about how bad it is, but worldwide, it’s still going down.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 05, 2024, 02:21:29 PM
Good response.  I have some feedback on what you said.    PTC in BOLD

That’s actually inaccurate. HIV/AIDS (in the beginning & presently) is indeed and primarily a pandemic of homosexual behavior.


I will tell you why I disagree with that.   HIV/AIDS is primarily a pandemic due to it being  man made in a lab.   Homosexuals in America and children were just the 1st targets.  Here's another reason why I disagree.  In certain countries in the world, scientists went to those countries and intentionally infected masses of people there so they would develop  HIV.   How do we explain masses of people getting HIV, if they didnt obtain it primarily through homosexual sex?   

That’s not to say that heterosexuals haven’t been heavily impacted, but if you look at the stats and look at the health-targeting campaigns in any major city, you’ll notice there’s always a heavy ad focus toward gay populations. This is not part of a generalized health campaign, but a very specific one for THEM.

True, but havent we learned by now, that whatever we were being told by the so called health officials was probably lies and propaganda?   Check it.  Back then did health officials and MSM openly inform the public that the hepititus vaccines were contributing to HIV infection?    Did they also admit that gays and later heterosexuals who took AZT is what was killing a lot of people that took that poison?   Of course not.

So how can we take the word of health officials back then, when back then they ( the medical field, clinics, hospitals, doctors etc)  all were getting paid off, the same way they got paid off during the Covid debacle?   Of course they made a huge campaign about HIV and AIDS in the media and everywhere.  The HIV/AIDS plandemic was a profitable cash cow.   

Campaigning for HIV/AIDS was the only thing that was allowed to be covered publicly.   But you couldnt tell the truth about what was really happening.  You couldnt talk about the origins of HIV or AIDS.  You had to stick to the narrative.  A pandemic about gay males and IV drug use.   You can bet the stats were juked back then, just like they did for covid.   

I think it would be a waste of time trying to vouch for whatever the exact stats were that we were being told existed back then.   We were being lied to all along.   I have never ever heard any health officials or pharma companies from back in the day admit that they created HIV or drugs like AZT and killed people with it.    Most of my counter arguments is coming from independent sources Ive obtained.  And some POV are from just using deductive reasoning.   

But we can bet our bottom dollar you never heard those same health officials or pharma companies admit they created the HIV and infected the population with it.   You obviously know about the hepatitus vaccine program.  But back then, none of those health officials admitted that they were experimenting on gays.   We were all led to believe that gays were being helped.

Back in the 80's that was a well orchestrated depopulation campaign, not a homosexual pandemic that just sprung up in the late 70's.   And like many pandemics, when it was only unvaccinated and homosexuals that were getting infected nobody batted an eye.   But when it became apparent that it was not a pandemic of the unvaccinated or mainly from homosexual men......peoples eyes began to open up.   

People who thought they were safe because they were not gay men, and they were not IV drug users, soon found out they could get infected too.   Thats when it was revealed that we were no longer dealing with a pandemic of the gay or homosexual.

You alluded to the transmission of HIV infection being accomplished through the anus of homosexual men.   You also mentioned that men need to strap up in dealing with these prostitutes, and that we need to educate prostitutes about the dangers of them messing around with gays or trannies.   

If a man is strapping up with prostitutes out of concern of possibly being infected with HIV from that prostitute,  doesnt that kinda debunk the premise that HIV is a pandemic of gays or homosexuals?    Why should a female prostitute have to protect herself from an HIV infection from a gay or homosexual man, if she is not a male homosexual herself?   

The answer is obvious, it does not require an individual to be gay or a homosexual, in order to be infected with HIV.  The mechanism of infection is due to an infected person of any sexual orientation infecting another person.   

Moreover, what makes a gay mans anal cavity different from a womans anal cavity?  Are we to assume that HIV infection only happens with gay/homosexual men, but bypasses women altogether?    My argument isnt about who has the most cases of HIV, gay men or heterosexual men/women.   

Im only pointing what appears to be somewhat of a contradiction.   When we tell Sosua prostitutes to avoid sex with gay men, and at the same time we tell heterosexual men to strap up with prostitutes, that to me is an indirect acknowledgement that HIV transmission is not primarily a gay or homosexual issue.   It's about avoiding infection from whoever may be a carrier.   

What happens when a confirmed non infected gay man or switch hitter man is slamming the asshole of a woman?   Is she at risk of being infected with HIV?   I wouldnt think so.

Suppose it's a confirmed HIV infected strictly heterosexual man slamming the asshole of a woman?   Is she at risk of being infected with HIV?    In this case, Id say yes. 

What made the difference?   It wasnt because of the sexual orientation of the participants.  It was because of one major factor.   In one instance the non gay man was infected with HIV and had a means of transmission , and in the other instance the Gay person was not infected with HIV , and yet they were performing the same sexual act, but there may not have been any risk of infecting the woman.    Infection made the difference, not sexual orientation. 

Here's another way Im looking at it.   Two gay men confirmed and tested to be uninfected with HIV/AIDS.  If they perform the same anal sexual activity,  does that mean that they run the risk of contracting HIV or AIDS, even if they were never infected to begin with?

Im asking because I got the impression that a pair of gay men are at risk of being infected  because of some hormonal or chemical reaction going on in the rectum.  Something particular that affects gay men but for some reason it supposedly doesnt affect women the same? 

Is it you dont believe the same chemical or hormonal tissue damage and transmission happens with an uninfected heterosexual man pounding the asshole of an uninfected heterosexual woman?    If that is the case, would her risk of being infected increase if the man was infected with HIV?   

I could be wrong, but I believe the narrative of gay men contracting HIV because they have a particular chemical or hormonal connection going on in the rectum, was intentional misinformation that was fed to the general public.   

I believe the real story is, that a significant number of gays were directly and intentionally infected with HIV, and the transmission of infection among the masses was aided through sexual activity. (In the rectum.)     In other words, I believe the intentional infection of gays came before gay sexual activity.   

 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 05, 2024, 03:08:24 PM
Another thing I want to add :

The HIV/AIDS scandal is so f--king similar to the Covid scandal that it's not funny.   It's like a f--king clone. 

Back when HIV/AIDS was a thing, remember when there were inexpensive alternative medicines and treatments that were revealed, that could work to treat HIV? 

What happened back then?  That type of information was not allowed to be publicized.  No doctor or hospital was allowed to administer alternative treatments for HIV.   No media outlet was allowed to talk about any such alternative treatments.   

The only medicines that were allowed or could be discussed was whatever health officials claimed worked.    Thats it, that all I wanted to say on that.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 05, 2024, 03:14:59 PM
Saturday May 4, 2024

A totally bummed out day.  It was cloudy, and it rained so hard much of the night.   Im sure the streets were flooded as usual.   

I had a date with an old regular, that was supposed to come over.   Chick couldnt make it because of the rain.   She should be able to make it tonight.   

I dont have much interest in pulling the trigger with all of that on patrol talent out in the street.  I prefer dealing with chicks Ive had history with.    I admit, Im out of touch when dealing with many of the new chicks on the scene.   I cant even imagine them in my apartment, and having a good vibe with them.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 05, 2024, 04:56:47 PM
Murano,

I completely agree; I also believe that HIV/AIDS was man made, and as far as to why and how HIV/AIDS became a pandemic, two things can be true at once. It was indeed developed in a lab, and it’s spread was also attributed to person-to-person contact, along with other forms of external transmission.

I also want to clarify and state that I’m not saying that HIV/AIDS magically appears only when two gay men have sex. One of those gay men would have to already have the virus, of course. What I’ve been saying is that the prevalence and frequency of HIV/AIDS and it’s transmission is HIGHEST amongst men who have sex with men, based on their preferred, typical, and primary method of sex; anal.

When it comes to STD and HIV/AIDS transmission, anal sex of any sort, even in heterosexual relationships, poses the highest health risk for disease transmission if the health status of one’s partner is positive and/or unknown. Unprotected vaginal sex also poses a risk, but that risk isn’t as high as anal based on research data.

Like I mentioned before, the heterosexual population has also been slammed by HIV/AIDS cases, and many of these cases can be traced back to the switch-hitter bisexual gay men that were playing both sides of the sexual fence. The gay population was always higher risk, based on their typical sexual habits.

If a heterosexual woman is having unprotected sex with any man of unknown status, even if he’s straight, both partners are putting themselves at risk. That risk is AMPLIFIED if that woman is having sex with a gay man and/or a man that also indulges in gay sexual activities (like f--king trannies, and that man, whether he admits it or not, is still gay, lol). That’s why I warn dudes to really strap up; because once the homosexual component enters the game, that switch-hitting population, based on their typically high risk habits, increases the existing risk for everyone.

If chicas are going raw with higher risk bisexual dudes that just finished getting slammed by trannies themselves, this spells big trouble for the straight dude that foolishly might hit that chica next, going raw.

To summarize, HIV/AIDS is no longer solely a “gay” disease of course, but the gay population is still FAR ahead of the straight population when it comes to infection. Because of this, when there’s sexual intermingling of gay and straight populations (like trannies in Sosua), it increases the risks for all.

This is why chicas in Sosua need to avoid having relations with dudes they see and know are messing with trannies. Those men are gay, and therefore pose a higher risk.

And dudes who are aware that chicas are f--king dudes that are gay and/or having sexual relations with trannies, need to generally stay away from those chicas.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 05, 2024, 06:24:48 PM
Saturday May 4, 2024

A totally bummed out day.  It was cloudy, and it rained so hard much of the night.   Im sure the streets were flooded as usual.   

I had a date with an old regular, that was supposed to come over.   Chick couldnt make it because of the rain.   She should be able to make it tonight.   

I dont have much interest in pulling the trigger with all of that on patrol talent out in the street.  I prefer dealing with chicks Ive had history with.    I admit, Im out of touch when dealing with many of the new chicks on the scene.   I cant even imagine them in my apartment, and having a good vibe with them.
Concour Sirs you gotta have good trusted repaets on your roster to come over, especially if you have lousy weather   ,go hunting for fresh faces on sunny days,, keep a keen eye out for that new tenderoni new to the game chica or an older milf semi pro will fit the bill, avoide the new crop of tatted un friendly rachet hoes   That seem to hang out at Victors hatian food spot at the coner of Pedro cilante and DR Rosen, Also side note that coner bar right next door plays loud music ,how the hell do you sit ther and listen to loud shitty muisic    just saying !!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 05, 2024, 11:15:21 PM
Since this thread seems to be temporarily self hijacked, I would like to add my two cents on an unrelated topic.

If anyone enjoys watching a good movie, I highly recommend "The Sixth".

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 05, 2024, 11:34:48 PM
With Sosua being a freaky place surprise there arnt a shit load of ghost and crazy spirits, Like in the movie Ebenezer scrooge with the three ghosts past presant and future,,, be really scrary if we had past chica ghost haunt us or if we could tell the future,, ah my bad we already get haunted by chicas on a daily basis ! dont get scouged by chicas    or they my call you a grinch !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 06:21:22 AM
@ PTC all of your points are duly noted.  I do take into consideration the parts we both concur on. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 07:07:41 AM
Sunday May 5, 2024   Cinco De Mayo

Turned out to be an awesome day, compared to the fierce rains we had Saturday night.   I went to the Playero early morning.   Then after I ate breakfast at home, I went out for a bike ride.  After all I said about local male representation in Sosua, I actually enjoyed the morning ride without the usual hustle and bustle of seeing and hearing motos,cars and 4 wheelers, or even a lot of people.

Since I didnt come out later, Sunday turned out to be quite peaceful all day, and night.  And no freaking rain.  If it did rain last night, I didnt hear jack.    My old regular made it over last night.   I was expecting a older slightly worn out looking chica.

Only to be surprised by her looking like she did when I 1st met her years ago when she used to work on the beach.  Slim, trim, and all of the bumps in the right places.

She's a brown Dominican, could easily be mistaken to be Haitian.  She has natural straight black hair, with no fake attachments, no fake eyelashes, or fake body enhancements.  Looking pretty good for a 38yr old.   Always had a nice easy going personality.   She's another one that I started dealing with back in 2015.   

She used to be my ex pretend girlfriends friend.  They both worked at the same restaurant on the beach. Back then, I kept eyeballing her for an entire year before we actually got together.   But once we did pull off a sneaky meet, it was bang zoom from that point on.   I dont think my ex PGF ever knew her friend turned out to be my regular, but if she did, I guess I had her blessing. 

Speaking of that ex PGF,  she might make it to my welcome back roster.  Only thing is, the last time I physically saw her.  I was not happy or attracted to the weight she had gained.   Her Whatsapp profile pictures had thrown me off.    At the time I met up with her 2yrs ago, I let her spend the night, and didnt even touch her.   I just gave her some pesos in the morning.

Now, if I find out that she transformed herself back to looking like she used to ,like her GF did, I would have no problem resuming hitting that.   Plus she is about 6 yrs younger than her friend.   Back then she had the bomb head.  A real follow through trooper.  No getting up to run to the toilet without speaking. LOL.   Just lay back and prepare for sleep,  kinda girl.   

Also, she had a very responsive juice box that was always nice and wet.  Getting her off was no chore.   The best part, when she busted a nut, she didnt turn into a possum, like some chicks do.   Freeze up and dont want to continue.   

Last night on my phone, Galaxy Girl and Round Ass both reached out.  And Blondie was wanted to come yesterday morning, but I told her next time.    Im like where is all of this coming from?   It's amazing, from me being away for several months, to all of these ex regulars all making themselves available for work.   Im partly responsible of course.   

While I was away all of that time, I did contact each of them or returned their texts when I turned on that chica DR phone.   I gave each an idea that I'd be back soon.   Then when I did come back, I sent a brief hello to each.   I rarely chase or set up meets even with regulars.   I let chicks do most of the pursuing for business.  But of course, since I was off the grid, I did have to give them some incentive, by telling them I was actually back. 

Like I always tell guys that ask me how Sosua is........Sosua for me, is a place where you dont need to cast your fishing rod with bait, because in Sosua the fish jump in the boat.   It does make me wonder though.  What were my old regulars doing all of this time, that they are available, instead of snatched up and wifed up?   

Is business slow for them?  Or is it, that they just dont want to miss an opportunity for easy money to be added to the pot?   Another way to look at it.  These chicks dont have much of a future selling ass.  No pension, no benefits.   They are all getting older.   These chicks age in dog years.

I met Galaxy girl when she was only 21.  Today she is about 33.  Technically, she is over the hill.  Yes she has a house, car and kids, maybe a savings account.   But other than that what does she have to show for the years she put in?    She's still a slave to punching the p4p clock far away from home.   P4P work has got to take it's toll on her, mentally and physically.   

Perhaps all of her efforts is not for her, but for her kids future?   The other regulars all seem to be in the same boat.  They all have families to take care of.  Nobody is going to wife them up.   Although, I do know one older American cat who was totally enamored with Galaxy girl.   Me and my buddy both kept our mouths shut, hearing this guy talk about how he was taking Galaxy Girl on vacation with him.

I bet he's not with her now.  He eventually got his wake up call Im sure.  She was and is a good provider.   And he was a new expat.  He hadnt got past his learning curve yet.   I wonder how that cat is doing these days?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 09:38:53 AM
My buddy who spent 5 days here in Sosua told me last night.   

The night before he flew back to the US, he had a super great time with all of us chopping it up at Fat Jesses.   

That little get together consisted of Sherman ( who had the Tree House on the beach ) myself, my buddy and his two friends from the states, Kerry who had the Zanzibar restaurant on the beach, and a couple of other cats that came by.

I spotted Sherman early when I was at Tiki Wiki.  He was driving by, and decided to park and come sit with us.  That was a rare thing, for Sherman to do that.  Because Sherm is usually always on the go.  I guess things for him have quieted down, due to not being involved in any entertainment projects. 

Anyway, at some point I asked Sherm to join us at Fat Jesses, and he came.  Later my buddies showed up.  Then we turned out to be a couple of tables full of jolly fools.   Sherm is a riot.  Always cracking jokes, and telling jokes he's got up in his head.

The main point here, is how much fun a bunch of guys can have just enjoying each others company without being focused on chasing women.  I do believe that part of the reason for us getting together is due to our concern for the recent death of a fellow expat and friend.  A fella that would have been there with us enjoying the evening, if he had lived.   

So even though we didnt exactly bring him up, I believe he brought us together.  The camaraderie that day/night was one of the things I love about being back home.   Good food, good company, good weather, nice "visuals" all around us.......and the chance to do it all over again another day. 

So my man from the states wanted to tell me how much he enjoyed his 5 day stay, and that last night out with the fellas was a nice ending to his trip.

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 10:05:14 AM
I found out that one of the expat dudes I know here in Sosua, moved into one of the recently built apartment complexes.   It was still under construction before I left Sosua last September.  Now it's complete.   The dude said he is paying $1,100 USD a month.  Gottdamn!   

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway.    Im leaning more and more towards that feeling.   It's just I always felt that it's a good idea to have a nice financial cushion set up, just in case.   

More and more Im seeing expats dying and leaving behind a fortune that they never got to use or to pass on to others.   I dont want to be that guy.   At least for the time being, Im using my pension resources for travel.   Since my overall regular monthly expenses is relatively low.   

But sooner or later, I may need to consider tapping into investments and savings instead of it just sitting there gathering cyber dust.   Still, it's important for me to consider my health cost needs that I may incur while traveling, if my stateside or DR side healthcare coverage is not available when I need it.   I dont exactly trust travel insurance companies, although I think it's probably wise to get a policy.  Who knows if they really pay out?

Enjoy life to the fullest.  Splurge every now and then.   You only got one life to live.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 06, 2024, 12:15:06 PM
@ PTC all of your points are duly noted.  I do take into consideration the parts we both concur on.

Absolutely. Always a pleasure sir. 🤝

Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 06, 2024, 12:20:10 PM

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway. 

I agree. Nothing wrong with a little splurge, but $1100 in Sosua? That’s equivalent to rental prices that can still be found in the U.S., and that’s kinda outrageous when you consider how much the dollar is worth compared to the peso.

It seems like people and certain industries in DR are bending over backwards to make sure that you don’t “get over” with a stronger American currency. They must really hate the spending power of gringos and try to level the playing field any chance they get, even if they have to resort to damn near robbery, fraud, or extortion. Smh.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 01:54:35 PM

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway. 

I agree. Nothing wrong with a little splurge, but $1100 in Sosua? That’s equivalent to rental prices that can still be found in the U.S., and that’s kinda outrageous when you consider how much the dollar is worth compared to the peso.

It seems like people and certain industries in DR are bending over backwards to make sure that you don’t “get over” with a stronger American currency. They must really hate the spending power of gringos and try to level the playing field any chance they get, even if they have to resort to damn near robbery, fraud, or extortion. Smh.
In the last few years, a lot of guys have become expats here in Sosua.  They all were more than willing to pay the gringo inflated prices renters are demanding these days.   

Even though my apartment complex is old, still with what Im paying per month in rent in Sosua, I feel like it's too good to be true.    My landlord hasnt gone up on the rent, the entire time since I acquired my place back in 2013.     11 yrs of paying $1,100 a month comes to $145,200.   11 yrs of paying $350 a month comes to $46,200.

I can make believe I saved $99,000 by choosing the cheaper option.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 02:15:10 PM
Monday May 6th 2024

Started off being a nice bright sunny day.  At 12 noon, it stayed that way.   Went for lunch  at the newly named Amarone restaurant on Alejo Martinez.   Formerly called Bologna restaurant. 

They had many of the same staff members as before.  I was advised by someone that they changed the name because they had  some kind of financial crisis.  They ended up having their furniture taken out of there.   Now the entire restaurant is using plastic chairs and tables.   I recall something like that happened at Ahnvee a couple of years ago.   What I dont know, is if the place changed owners?   

Technically it's still seems like Bologna but under a different name.   Anyway, they have a lunch menu with a list of items that only cost 400 pesos.   I had the chicken Florentine/spinach with yellow rice.   They also served up some warm tasty buttery garlic bread.   There arent many places, one can go to get a tasty meal like that for only 400 pesos.   

Maybe another day, I'll see if their pizza is still good.  I used to get their pizza to go a few years ago.   Im debating now, on who has the best pizza in Sosua?   Margot?  Bailee's?  New Garden?  Pizzeria UNO @ Costa Tropical ( formerly Terra Linda ), Dolci Sapori, or Osteria Toscana ( across from Flip Flop ), or somewhere else?

The last pizza I was getting regularly was from Osteria Toscana.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Newyorkny on May 06, 2024, 02:58:34 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: jd66 on May 06, 2024, 03:02:42 PM
I saw a post on Facebook a few days ago that Amarone is up for sale
1.4 million USD   :o

Many of those places finance or rent the furniture and when they don't make the payments on time it immediately gets repossessed

It has happened to AD several times since he doesn't pay his bills very well
It also supposedly happened to Ahnvee as well.   (I guess they weren't  all they claimed to be)  ::)

There was some issues with the new ownership when Bolonga sold to the new owners.  Have heard some rumblings that things were not going very well for them,


I think the best pizza in Sosua comes from Nelsons Bistro

They have other food there that is really good as well

The price point at Nelsons is a little higher but IMO it's well worth it.
Pretty sure they charge the 18% ITBIS plus the 10% service charge at Nelson's so that might make it a no go for some dudes but not me since the food there is really good and I have no problem paying for it plus they have good service there.





Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 06, 2024, 03:17:22 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

Coconuts for me.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 06, 2024, 03:38:12 PM

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway. 

I agree. Nothing wrong with a little splurge, but $1100 in Sosua? That’s equivalent to rental prices that can still be found in the U.S., and that’s kinda outrageous when you consider how much the dollar is worth compared to the peso.

It seems like people and certain industries in DR are bending over backwards to make sure that you don’t “get over” with a stronger American currency. They must really hate the spending power of gringos and try to level the playing field any chance they get, even if they have to resort to damn near robbery, fraud, or extortion. Smh.
In the last few years, a lot of guys have become expats here in Sosua.  They all were more than willing to pay the gringo inflated prices renters are demanding these days.   

Even though my apartment complex is old, still with what Im paying per month in rent in Sosua, I feel like it's too good to be true.    My landlord hasnt gone up on the rent, the entire time since I acquired my place back in 2013.     11 yrs of paying $1,100 a month comes to $145,200.   11 yrs of paying $350 a month comes to $46,200.

I can make believe I saved $99,000 by choosing the cheaper option.

Well your savings does not make much sense as there were not really any apartments for rent for $1100 a month 11 years ago. And if there was, the landlord would have raised the rent a few times already.

But what there was were condos for sale at around $60k. In a make believe world had you put $12k down on one the mortgage would have been around $600 a month. $72k over the first 10 years plus the deposit, and now you not only would be rent free, but your $84K investment could well be worth $120K. You could have been up $36K!

But not so fast, had you taken that $12K 11 years ago and invested it in the S&P and every month added the $250 diff between your rent and the mortgage you would well be sitting with more than twice that, over $80K and had the freedom to move whenever you want, borrow against your savings, or cash out at a moments notice.

Woulda, shoulda, coulda.... I need to take my own advice sometimes.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Jazzy2019 on May 06, 2024, 04:13:08 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

My vote goes to Dolci Sapori. Until about three months ago the pepperoni pizza was only 400 pesos. The new price is 500 pesos.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 04:37:08 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

Coconuts for me.
Where is Coconuts?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 06, 2024, 04:53:50 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

Coconuts for me.
Where is Coconuts?

Well you are missing out! Five-ten minutes away at Hideaway Beach in Enquentro, Take the entrance by the Casa Linda condos, there is a gate on the left a few hundred yards down the road.

Just a spectacular ocean front setting, big lawn with... COCONUT trees, good view of the surfing if you walk out on the lawn. The grand kids love it.

It's a nice new building that replaced Chez Arsenio about 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 05:05:05 PM

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway. 

I agree. Nothing wrong with a little splurge, but $1100 in Sosua? That’s equivalent to rental prices that can still be found in the U.S., and that’s kinda outrageous when you consider how much the dollar is worth compared to the peso.

It seems like people and certain industries in DR are bending over backwards to make sure that you don’t “get over” with a stronger American currency. They must really hate the spending power of gringos and try to level the playing field any chance they get, even if they have to resort to damn near robbery, fraud, or extortion. Smh.
In the last few years, a lot of guys have become expats here in Sosua.  They all were more than willing to pay the gringo inflated prices renters are demanding these days.   

Even though my apartment complex is old, still with what Im paying per month in rent in Sosua, I feel like it's too good to be true.    My landlord hasnt gone up on the rent, the entire time since I acquired my place back in 2013.     11 yrs of paying $1,100 a month comes to $145,200.   11 yrs of paying $350 a month comes to $46,200.

I can make believe I saved $99,000 by choosing the cheaper option.

Well your savings does not make much sense as there were not really any apartments for rent for $1100 a month 11 years ago. And if there was, the landlord would have raised the rent a few times already.

But what there was were condos for sale at around $60k. In a make believe world had you put $12k down on one the mortgage would have been around $600 a month. $72k over the first 10 years plus the deposit, and now you not only would be rent free, but your $84K investment could well be worth $120K. You could have been up $36K!

But not so fast, had you taken that $12K 11 years ago and invested it in the S&P and every month added the $250 diff between your rent and the mortgage you would well be sitting with more than twice that, over $80K and had the freedom to move whenever you want, borrow against your savings, or cash out at a moments notice.

Woulda, shoulda, coulda.... I need to take my own advice sometimes.
What I said wasnt about making sense, sir.   Back when I 1st started visiting in Sosua, and later on started living in Sosua, I never considered buying any real estate in the DR. 

And to this day, I still dont care to buy any real estate property.  And that is exactly what I used to recommend to would be expats that came to the DR/Sosua.  I suggested that they wait awhile before entertaining the idea of buying real estate.  Live in the DR 1st.  See how you like where you live.   Some that bought property knee jerk, regret their decision. 

There are advantages and disadvantages to buying real estate property.

My advantages of renting instead of buying, is a person may be exempt from having to be responsible for maintenance and/or maintenance fee costs of the property.   

Ive heard of folks buying condos, but also them having to pay maintenance fees, which one has to factor in to the overall cost of their property.   If the residence is privately owned, then that individual is 100% responsible for any and everything.   Thats a headache I was never interested in acquiring.   

Sometimes renting is the better option.  I do it with chicas, and I feel the same with real estate in the DR.  No buying, only renting.



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 05:09:57 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

Coconuts for me.
Where is Coconuts?

Well you are missing out! Five-ten minutes away at Hideaway Beach in Enquentro, Take the entrance by the Casa Linda condos, there is a gate on the left a few hundred yards down the road.

Just a spectacular ocean front setting, big lawn with... COCONUT trees, good view of the surfing if you walk out on the lawn. The grand kids love it.

It's a nice new building that replaced Chez Arsenio about 4-5 years ago.
Ohhhhh, I know where you mean.  A couple of guys were telling me about that area last year.  I just never made it there, and forgot all about it.   Is the path to get there paved?   Because if my memory serves me right, the road to get back there is mostly dirt road.   My buddies that were going, went on their pasolas or ATV's.     

I would hate to go in my vehicle and get it all muddied up.   Especially with the amount of rain weve been getting. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 05:15:55 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

My vote goes to Dolci Sapori. Until about three months ago the pepperoni pizza was only 400 pesos. The new price is 500 pesos.
This pizza critic friend of mine said that Dolci Sapori had the best pizza until lately.   He said he had a couple of pies where it was not completely cooked in the middle.
Said he was going to bring it to the attention of the owner.   

One thing that might be an issue about the pizza quality he was talking about.  He likes pizza with the works.  I only eat cheese pizza.  Occasionally, I'll eat a pizza with onions and peppers on it, or chicken.  But I mostly stick with plain cheese pizzas.   I dont think they can go wrong with a plain cheese pizza.     
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: sosuajefe on May 06, 2024, 05:28:07 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

My vote goes to Dolci Sapori. Until about three months ago the pepperoni pizza was only 400 pesos. The new price is 500 pesos.

I agree. Dolci Sapori pizza is one of the better pizzas in Sosua.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 05:31:12 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

My vote goes to Dolci Sapori. Until about three months ago the pepperoni pizza was only 400 pesos. The new price is 500 pesos.

I agree. Dolci Sapori pizza is one of the better pizzas in Sosua.
Another endorsement?  This is gonna make me have to go there for my next pizza. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 06, 2024, 06:30:42 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

 

One thing that might be an issue about the pizza quality he was talking about.  He likes pizza with the works.  I only eat cheese pizza.  Occasionally, I'll eat a pizza with onions and peppers on it, or chicken.  But I mostly stick with plain cheese pizzas.   I dont think they can go wrong with a plain cheese pizza.   

Cheese only pizza, you take your pie seriously. Kind of like this New Yorker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Aa6ncIk70
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 06, 2024, 06:36:28 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

 

One thing that might be an issue about the pizza quality he was talking about.  He likes pizza with the works.  I only eat cheese pizza.  Occasionally, I'll eat a pizza with onions and peppers on it, or chicken.  But I mostly stick with plain cheese pizzas.   I dont think they can go wrong with a plain cheese pizza.   

Cheese only pizza, you take your pie seriously. Kind of like this New Yorker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Aa6ncIk70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXIpp59eoU

Very serious.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 06:41:05 PM

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway. 

I agree. Nothing wrong with a little splurge, but $1100 in Sosua? That’s equivalent to rental prices that can still be found in the U.S., and that’s kinda outrageous when you consider how much the dollar is worth compared to the peso.

It seems like people and certain industries in DR are bending over backwards to make sure that you don’t “get over” with a stronger American currency. They must really hate the spending power of gringos and try to level the playing field any chance they get, even if they have to resort to damn near robbery, fraud, or extortion. Smh.
You reminded me of one of the other reasons why I am and was reluctant to buy real estate property in the DR.   These muthablubbing Dominicans are ruthless when it comes to robbing, fraud and extortion.   Doing business on their turf is risky.   A lot of foreigners come to the DR thinking that as long as they have good legal representation they can circumvent being caught up in fraudelent business practices.   

Thats one of the reasons why I put the idea of buying real estate in the DR, out of my vocabulary.   

And about that $1,100 USD.  The only reason rents have skyrocketed like that is because Dominicans know that foreigners will pay it.    I believe Im one of the last breed of old school mentality expats.  After my group, the mentality of visitors and would be expats has morphed into a bunch of lead by the wallet misfits.    "Oh, thats the price?  Ok, no problem.  Here, take all of my money"

It's like 50% or more of guys coming to the DR want to start and run a business.   And the other 50% are content with just retiring and just enjoying life.   The real estate market in the DR reminds me of the real estate market in the US.   Especially when it came to northerners moving to the southern states for the last few decades. 

Southern Realtors took full advantage of the spending power of northerners.   And many northerners bought property and didnt give a f--k about negotiating.  As far as they were concerned, whatever the price was, it was a bargain to them.

So the southern realtors started to realize that they could jack up the price of the properties they had for rent or for sale.  Which is exactly what is going on with the real estate market here in Sosua.   

That $1,100 a month apt could very well go for $600 to $800.   But, would most buyers reject paying any more than that?  Nope, many cats today always compare prices in the DR to the US, and thats how they determine if it's a deal or not.  And DR realtors know that.

But what I have come to find, and weve been talking about this on various levels, especially when it comes to dealing with chicas......muthablubbers from abroad do not have any standards when it comes to certain things.  They just let people take advantage of them.   

The DR is a negotiating country.  But many of the foreigners that come here, have no clue when it comes to adapting to whats customary here.   This is one of the reasons why some things in tourist areas are becoming over priced for no reason, other than it's because they know they can get foreigners to accept being over charged without complaint.   

There is a breed of narcissistic foreigners these days who like to brag about overpaying and paying for shit, comparing themselves to other foreigners just because they arent doing what they do.   This is the newjack mentality that exists today.  And that attitude in enough people travels to other destinations in the world to infect those destinations as well.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 06:54:35 PM
Back in 2013 when I was about to agree to renting my place, I asked the landlord for a discount on the rent.   I sweetened the deal by offering to pay several months in advance.   It was a measly $25 a month discount, but I asked for it anyway. And got it.   The best part, is that the rent discount I asked for, became permanent.   $350 monthly rent, instead of $375 a month. 

$25 a month discount x 12 months x 11 yrs = $3,300.    $3,300 / $350 a month = almost 9.5 payments of $350 I didnt have to pay.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 06, 2024, 07:03:28 PM

Who would have thought that rent for a 2BR apt in Sosua would be that expensive?  $1,100 is 3 months rent for my Sosua Apt. Or 3 months rent for my Philippines Apt.   

Another way to look at it though, if you can afford to pay, then why not?   After all, if you die today or tomorrow, whatever you leave behind is no good to you anyway. 

I agree. Nothing wrong with a little splurge, but $1100 in Sosua? That’s equivalent to rental prices that can still be found in the U.S., and that’s kinda outrageous when you consider how much the dollar is worth compared to the peso.

It seems like people and certain industries in DR are bending over backwards to make sure that you don’t “get over” with a stronger American currency. They must really hate the spending power of gringos and try to level the playing field any chance they get, even if they have to resort to damn near robbery, fraud, or extortion. Smh.
You reminded me of one of the other reasons why I am and was reluctant to buy real estate property in the DR.   These muthablubbing Dominicans are ruthless when it comes to robbing, fraud and extortion.   Doing business on their turf is risky.   A lot of foreigners come to the DR thinking that as long as they have good legal representation they can circumvent being caught up in fraudelent business practices.   

Thats one of the reasons why I put the idea of buying real estate in the DR, out of my vocabulary.   

And about that $1,100 USD.  The only reason rents have skyrocketed like that is because Dominicans know that foreigners will pay it.    I believe Im one of the last breed of old school mentality expats.  After my group, the mentality of visitors and would be expats has morphed into a bunch of lead by the wallet misfits.    "Oh, thats the price?  Ok, no problem.  Here, take all of my money"

It's like 50% or more of guys coming to the DR want to start and run a business.   And the other 50% are content with just retiring and just enjoying life.   The real estate market in the DR reminds me of the real estate market in the US.   Especially when it came to northerners moving to the southern states for the last few decades. 

Southern Realtors took full advantage of the spending power of northerners.   And many northerners bought property and didnt give a f--k about negotiating.  As far as they were concerned, whatever the price was, it was a bargain to them.

So the southern realtors started to realize that they could jack up the price of the properties they had for rent or for sale.  Which is exactly what is going on with the real estate market here in Sosua.   

That $1,100 a month apt could very well go for $600 to $800.   But, would most buyers reject paying any more than that?  Nope, many cats today always compare prices in the DR to the US, and thats how they determine if it's a deal or not.  And DR realtors know that.

But what I have come to find, and weve been talking about this on various levels, especially when it comes to dealing with chicas......muthablubbers from abroad do not have any standards when it comes to certain things.  They just let people take advantage of them.   

The DR is a negotiating country.  But many of the foreigners that come here, have no clue when it comes to adapting to whats customary here.   This is one of the reasons why some things in tourist areas are becoming over priced for no reason, other than it's because they know they can get foreigners to accept being over charged without complaint.
Dummies  Fools with money surley get fleeced Even the apartment i rented for 60 days was 500 a month on short notice,, bet if i agured or stayed longer would have been cheaper,, f--k what are chicas paying a month? bet its cheaper   !!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 07:24:41 PM
Some food for thought.  Things I share with guys that were interested in living in the DR.   The reason why I only got a cheaper apartment back then, instead of going all out for a more luxurious and/or more expensive apt, is because I wasnt sure if this was going to be where I was going to settle permanently. 

Another reason is, having an affordable apt as a start, allowed me to afford branching out.  I could find another place to live in the DR, or I could live in another country or two.   And easily afford to pay for them all.   Which I made a reality.   If there is another country, I want to live in right now, if the price is right, I could rent a place there. 

Now that Airbnb's are a thing, I can live more places in the world at my convenience.  Like I did in Nairobi and Thailand.  $37 a day/night is doable.   I have yet to pursue Airbnb living in the states in the area I used to live.  Right now Im paying about $115 to $130 a night to stay in a hotel room in the states.  There has to be a better and cheaper way.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 06, 2024, 08:30:17 PM
Dummies  Fools with money surley get fleeced Even the apartment i rented for 60 days was 500 a month on short notice,, bet if i agured or stayed longer would have been cheaper,, f--k what are chicas paying a month? bet its cheaper   !!
$500 a month for an apt for a vacation rental is ok in my book.   Thats about $17 a day.   Before I acquired my apt, I used to spend my vacations at Condo Margarita for $385 a week.   

That was the reason, I started looking for an apartment.   Back in 2013, $350 a month for an apt in Sosua was still considered tourist prices, because a one BR or even a 2BR Apt in PP could be found for that price.   Now, $350 for a one BR apt in Sosua may be considered a bargain.   At least from a foreigner's POV.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 07, 2024, 03:56:29 AM
Yesterday ( Monday May 6, 2024 ) while at lunch at Amarone restaurant, several individuals passed by randomly walking on the other side of the street.  What they all had in common, is that they all were talking to themselves.   

I saw the one chick that looks like a number two pencil, she was walking by the restaurant.  I noticed that she changed her footwear.  Earlier in the morning, I saw her wearing the same clothes, but she had high heels on, but she was over by the liquor store near Tiki Wiki. 

Next I saw another chick who actually had a nice body, but she seemed bugged out and  figgity, walking and talking to herself too.   Then I saw a young Dominican with no shirt on, he was walking and talking to himself as well.  Same bugged out behavior.

Im assuming there must be a place nearby where they are copping their drug of choice.  I saw each of them when they were walking in each direction.  I just didnt see where they stopped or where they ended up.   

When I think about the other people in town that seem to be on the same stuff, I think I can count about 5 more out there that are walking around bugged out.   There's a skinny dark Haitian chick walking and talking in the street, the dude that usually walks around in his underwear with sand all over him.   The main character thats always on the corner of Dr Rosen and PC drinking unfinished bottles of beer., the tall light skin guy that sometimes is bugged out dancing in the street.   

Then there is this Haitian chick with a short hair cut, she looks like a dude now.  Speaks perfect English.  She's lost a lot of weight.  Constantly begging, walking and talking to herself.   I see her walking from time to time to cop from one of the spots I know.   Then there are few hustlers in town, that also look like they have been using the same shit.

I cant say each and everyone of these characters are using the exact same substances.  But what is the particular drug that they may be using causing them to walk around talking to themselves like that?   And losing weight and wearing the same clothes every day?   With that blank drug induced looking expression?

This is very very bad for Sosua.   The thing thats f--ked up about it, is that police, and the mayor are tolerating this shit.   They know this shit is going on, and yet they have done nothing about it.  Damn worrying about prostitution.   Do something about the drug trafficking and drug use.   

If a typical foreigner including Haitians were to get caught with drugs on them, the police would try to prosecute them to the full extent of the law.   But do nothing when it comes to their own f--king up a thriving tourist community.   Selective law enforcement like this,  is like living in a horror movie or the Twlight Zone.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 07, 2024, 04:13:14 AM
Another thing that seems strange.  Since ive been back,  I dont recall seeing the presence of the AMET traffic police in full force DAILY, stopping vehicles not obeying lights, traffic direction, etc.   And as a result, Im noticing more people driving against traffic.  Not just on motorbikes, but in cars.   Too many drivers are on the road that dont respect traffic lights or stop signs.   

If you are in a vehicle and the light turns green for you, you better f--king look every which way before you move, because you'll end up getting hit head on or T boned by idiots driving through a red light like they have the right of way.   People are bugging out.  There is no structure, no enforcement and no self discipline.   

Enough muggs here are acting like f--king savages that cant be tamed.    Is there something in the food, in the air?   It cant be all about drug use.    Did something happen to the masses of people here in the last 3 to 4 yrs?   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 07, 2024, 04:24:11 AM
Im also noticing more and more weird behavior coming from acquaintances, friends, even family.

More selfishness, opportunistic behavior, being flaky or just thoughtless inconsiderate behavior.  Detachment.  Aloof behavior.  I see more user type behavior, being manifested in enough people.  In these instances, this isnt about drug use.  But it almost seems as if something has taken over the minds of enough people.    These observations are strictly anecdotal.   Many people seem normal, but something seems off.   I saw it happening with that expat before he died.   I also see it in other people.

Here's an example.  A dude asks for a pickup from the airport, but when he gets to Sosua he'll ghost you.  Dude does his thing.   Then when it's time to go, he looks to get a ride back to the airport.   Gets in th car and asks, can I offer you gas money?   Did the same ghosting to another guy that he got a ride from.   When the cat ended up bumping into him while out and about he started swearing that he hadnt forgot about the guy, and they were going to get together. 

Treat him to lunch/dinner.  But those meets and treats never happened.  Only the request for a ride back to the airport.   Thing is, this cat was not always like that.  He used to be very considerate and appreciative, if he got a ride to the airport.

But something happened to him and other people like him.  just like I see in others.   A chick Ive known since 2017 in the Philippines, who has a regular job, advised me that she supposedly has stage 1 cancer.   Chick ghosted me when I was in the Philippines last year.  Even though I have done numerous favors for her. 

Treated her, and offered her rides to work.   But now that she has her alleged dilemma, she wants financial help.   She didnt try to be a friend when I was in the Philippines, but now has the nerve and the balls to use my sympathy to try to get money from me.    I gave the chick some much needed life lesson feedback.

Her response was a shallow, "I understand".  No acknowledgement of her behavior.   Then she deleted her texts to me, then deleted her Whatsapp profile pic, and made it a black empty square.    Because her last text was "ok I understand, be a friend, if I survive".   

This chick could very well be sick enough that she may not make it.   That may happen with or without my help.  Im just one spoke in her wheel.   I know I aint the only cat she will try to use.

But the thing that boggles my mind, is how some people these days feel entitled to your money, your time, your resources, your listening ear, when they havent taken the time to provide commensurate reciprocation. 

Nor demonstrate any sincere effort to show that they deserve what they feel you should give them.    And moreover, when you tell them about what you see in them, they dont really acknowledge their behavior or what you are telling them.  They are in denial.  Or they try to placate, like they get what you are saying.  But they really dont give a f--k. 

It's almost like they just realize they cant use you, so they just look for someone else that they can get over on.  Is this what present day vampires are like?   

I had another Filipina chick do something like that.  Texted me to ask me to send her 6000 pesos so she can have a BD party for some kids in the province.  This chick in all the years Ive known her, has never ever did anything like that before?   It wasnt the request that was f--ked up. 

But it was the flaky, underhanded way that she presented her request.     And this is what I meant about how behaviors of some people seems to have dramatically changed.  Normally, a person will have a conversation with you.  Ask you how you are doing.  Re establish a rapport, if you havent heard from each other in a while.   

This chick cant do anything for me or with me while she is supposedly in the province.  She has no collateral, except our history.  And thats not enough incentive for me, especially since I know she wont appreciate me sending her money.  My kindness would be deemed  a weakness.  Not a virtue. She has that dreaded disease I call YOUGOTITLIKETHATITIS.

But what muggs are doing these days, is using your prior history/connection/relationship with them, to try to get things from people.   It doesnt matter if it's an ex lover, a male friend, an acquaintance or a family member.  I see this type of selfish opportunistic behavior happening a lot with more people these days.   Not just me, I see and hear other people experiencing and going through the same with others, and talking about it.   

One key thing about them, you may rarely see these people initiating doing anything for others.  It's usually them trying to get something from other people.   And if they do initiate doing something for others, you can bet there are nefarious strings attached to their offerings.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 07, 2024, 06:04:52 AM
Joder no f--k no is what you say to these chicas,  Get the f--k out of here get out of town, there gonna play yah if you let em
Funny i was arguing with my long time repaet over gifts she wanted,, part of the deal,,,forgot one item so she starts bitching and quotes that shes being played, i counted that ill shove off, bye bye vamos adios ,hehe  she changed her tune pronto,,,
Any who you gotta be on guard when dealing with donimicans, and chicas,,,,The hustle,Some think your a walking ATM Machine, and see how they can fleece you,,,Thats when the word no gracious nada respecto come into play,,,be firm but nice,, most will back down,,,,chicas put them in there place as well ,you dont see any donimicans  0r haitian men take any bullshit or grief from women,, there shut right the f--k down,, your the boss,  Dont get hosed by chicas ! side note some expats are just as bad watch out for bad deals and scams dealing with real estate and other business deals,
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bingoman on May 07, 2024, 06:25:22 PM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

My vote goes to Dolci Sapori. Until about three months ago the pepperoni pizza was only 400 pesos. The new price is 500 pesos.


I agree. Dolci Sapori pizza is one of the better pizzas in Sosua.

Another endorsement:

I have tried the steaks, breakfast and the pizza there for the past few days. It is very good. Even yesterday night, I saw an American gentleman come in for a pizza takeout, even though he already had another takeout box with him.

This is also one of my favorite coffee spots. Just be careful to sit under a fan, otherwise the mosquitos are a nuisance (as they are everywhere else)
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Tex1988 on May 07, 2024, 09:26:09 PM
Im also noticing more and more weird behavior coming from acquaintances, friends, even family.

More selfishness, opportunistic behavior, being flaky or just thoughtless inconsiderate behavior.  Detachment.  Aloof behavior.  I see more user type behavior, being manifested in enough people.  In these instances, this isnt about drug use.  But it almost seems as if something has taken over the minds of enough people.    These observations are strictly anecdotal.   Many people seem normal, but something seems off.   I saw it happening with that expat before he died.   I also see it in other people.

Here's an example.  A dude asks for a pickup from the airport, but when he gets to Sosua he'll ghost you.  Dude does his thing.   Then when it's time to go, he looks to get a ride back to the airport.   Gets in th car and asks, can I offer you gas money?   Did the same ghosting to another guy that he got a ride from.   When the cat ended up bumping into him while out and about he started swearing that he hadnt forgot about the guy, and they were going to get together. 

Treat him to lunch/dinner.  But those meets and treats never happened.  Only the request for a ride back to the airport.   Thing is, this cat was not always like that.  He used to be very considerate and appreciative, if he got a ride to the airport.

But something happened to him and other people like him.  just like I see in others.   A chick Ive known since 2017 in the Philippines, who has a regular job, advised me that she supposedly has stage 1 cancer.   Chick ghosted me when I was in the Philippines last year.  Even though I have done numerous favors for her. 

Treated her, and offered her rides to work.   But now that she has her alleged dilemma, she wants financial help.   She didnt try to be a friend when I was in the Philippines, but now has the nerve and the balls to use my sympathy to try to get money from me.    I gave the chick some much needed life lesson feedback.

Her response was a shallow, "I understand".  No acknowledgement of her behavior.   Then she deleted her texts to me, then deleted her Whatsapp profile pic, and made it a black empty square.    Because her last text was "ok I understand, be a friend, if I survive".   

This chick could very well be sick enough that she may not make it.   That may happen with or without my help.  Im just one spoke in her wheel.   I know I aint the only cat she will try to use.

But the thing that boggles my mind, is how some people these days feel entitled to your money, your time, your resources, your listening ear, when they havent taken the time to provide commensurate reciprocation. 

Nor demonstrate any sincere effort to show that they deserve what they feel you should give them.    And moreover, when you tell them about what you see in them, they dont really acknowledge their behavior or what you are telling them.  They are in denial.  Or they try to placate, like they get what you are saying.  But they really dont give a f--k. 

It's almost like they just realize they cant use you, so they just look for someone else that they can get over on.  Is this what present day vampires are like?   

I had another Filipina chick do something like that.  Texted me to ask me to send her 6000 pesos so she can have a BD party for some kids in the province.  This chick in all the years Ive known her, has never ever did anything like that before?   It wasnt the request that was f--ked up. 

But it was the flaky, underhanded way that she presented her request.     And this is what I meant about how behaviors of some people seems to have dramatically changed.  Normally, a person will have a conversation with you.  Ask you how you are doing.  Re establish a rapport, if you havent heard from each other in a while.   

This chick cant do anything for me or with me while she is supposedly in the province.  She has no collateral, except our history.  And thats not enough incentive for me, especially since I know she wont appreciate me sending her money.  My kindness would be deemed  a weakness.  Not a virtue. She has that dreaded disease I call YOUGOTITLIKETHATITIS.

But what muggs are doing these days, is using your prior history/connection/relationship with them, to try to get things from people.   It doesnt matter if it's an ex lover, a male friend, an acquaintance or a family member.  I see this type of selfish opportunistic behavior happening a lot with more people these days.   Not just me, I see and hear other people experiencing and going through the same with others, and talking about it.   

One key thing about them, you may rarely see these people initiating doing anything for others.  It's usually them trying to get something from other people.   And if they do initiate doing something for others, you can bet there are nefarious strings attached to their offerings.

Good post - felt like I was reading a fortune cookie left in my Chinese food take out order.

I remember the expat that died was acting selfish and entitled a few years prior to the end.

I have a close family member with YOUGOTITLIKETHATITIS.

I know a chica who recently lost her phone....and was looking for that handout. She offered no 'sexo gratis' payment plan or nothing.

I am a friendly guy....but I am starting to enjoy being by myself more and more because of people like this.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 08, 2024, 06:48:00 AM
Pizza eaters chime in, I usually like dining in the local cuisine but a good pizza is always nice

My vote goes to Dolci Sapori. Until about three months ago the pepperoni pizza was only 400 pesos. The new price is 500 pesos.


I agree. Dolci Sapori pizza is one of the better pizzas in Sosua.

Another endorsement:

I have tried the steaks, breakfast and the pizza there for the past few days. It is very good. Even yesterday night, I saw an American gentleman come in for a pizza takeout, even though he already had another takeout box with him.

This is also one of my favorite coffee spots. Just be careful to sit under a fan, otherwise the mosquitos are a nuisance (as they are everywhere else)
Fighting bugs while dining is one of my strong pet peeves anywhere, but especially in Sosua.  At the beach particularly.   What cracks me up about the flies.   If you are eating a meal, fish for instance, and you have a separate plate to put the fish parts, bones and anything else that you dont want on that plate, and then you put the plate away from you.....

The f--king flies will ignore the juicy food on that decoy plate, but will keep trying to eat from your main meal plate.    The flies are not happy, unless they are buzzing around you, trying to share the plate you are eating from.   It's like it's a game to them, to land on your food, eat a little bit, and then avoid being slapped away.    The decoy plate is over there, mofo's, eat all you want.   I aint gonna swat you away.  f--king flies. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 08, 2024, 07:04:11 AM

Good post - felt like I was reading a fortune cookie left in my Chinese food take out order.

I remember the expat that died was acting selfish and entitled a few years prior to the end.

I have a close family member with YOUGOTITLIKETHATITIS.

I know a chica who recently lost her phone....and was looking for that handout. She offered no 'sexo gratis' payment plan or nothing.

I am a friendly guy....but I am starting to enjoy being by myself more and more because of people like this.
It can be very disconcerting when someone close to you, or someone you know well or had history with changes on you.   People like that have a way of making it seem as if there is something wrong with the other people who wont tolerate their shit.  Or who wisely takes measures to protect themselves from some nefarious behavior or schemes.

The other thing thats important.  Accepting gifts or favors from schemers, could be costly.
A saying I use ( the long version ) : "Be careful what you get for free or what is seemingly offered as if there are no strings attached, because you never know what trouble it may bring, or what it may cost you, much later."     

Beware of the free lunch  (not my saying)

Anecdotal example :   I have a female relative about 4 yrs older than me.  Married and lives in the states.  Everytime we play catch up on the phone.......sooner or later a RFM would come at me.  This has been happening for decades.   I avoided all of those requests except one.  The one that woke me up.  Chick still owes me that money.   But I made that loan leverage against any future requests for money, from her. 

Fast forward to today?   Chick keeps trying to invite me to come stay at her house.   She knows I travel a lot, and I end up staying in the states between trips.  She thinks by inviting me to her house to stay, that I will end up owing her down the road.   

Moreover, I know how some people are.  You go stay at their house, you may end up being judged for any and everything you do that might irritate them about your presence.  Even though the muthablubba invited you, as if they really wanted to enjoy you being there.   

A person has got to know his/her limitations when it comes to dealing with certain people and their idiosyncrasies and weird behavior.    Best to stay in a hotel or safe environment, than set yourself up with a nutcase, user relative etc etc etc.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 08, 2024, 09:35:18 AM

Good post - felt like I was reading a fortune cookie left in my Chinese food take out order.

I remember the expat that died was acting selfish and entitled a few years prior to the end.

I have a close family member with YOUGOTITLIKETHATITIS.

I know a chica who recently lost her phone....and was looking for that handout. She offered no 'sexo gratis' payment plan or nothing.

I am a friendly guy....but I am starting to enjoy being by myself more and more because of people like this.
It can be very disconcerting when someone close to you, or someone you know well or had history with changes on you.   People like that have a way of making it seem as if there is something wrong with the other people who wont tolerate their shit.  Or who wisely takes measures to protect themselves from some nefarious behavior or schemes.

The other thing thats important.  Accepting gifts or favors from schemers, could be costly.
A saying I use ( the long version ) : "Be careful what you get for free or what is seemingly offered as if there are no strings attached, because you never know what trouble it may bring, or what it may cost you, much later."     

Beware of the free lunch  (not my saying)

Anecdotal example :   I have a female relative about 4 yrs older than me.  Married and lives in the states.  Everytime we play catch up on the phone.......sooner or later a RFM would come at me.  This has been happening for decades.   I avoided all of those requests except one.  The one that woke me up.  Chick still owes me that money.   But I made that loan leverage against any future requests for money, from her. 

Fast forward to today?   Chick keeps trying to invite me to come stay at her house.   She knows I travel a lot, and I end up staying in the states between trips.  She thinks by inviting me to her house to stay, that I will end up owing her down the road.   

Moreover, I know how some people are.  You go stay at their house, you may end up being judged for any and everything you do that might irritate them about your presence.  Even though the muthablubba invited you, as if they really wanted to enjoy you being there.   

A person has got to know his/her limitations when it comes to dealing with certain people and their idiosyncrasies and weird behavior.    Best to stay in a hotel or safe environment, than set yourself up with a nutcase, user relative etc etc etc.   
That goes for chicas as well be carful going to a chicas casa unless you have had good history with,,,,,when you have a trusted repeat at your own caas or an apartment you have the upper hand your the boss there on your turf  had a to tell a chica in a bad mood to go home if she had a shitty attitude or was being a cunt or wench  no big deal !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 08, 2024, 09:37:48 AM
WE ARE IN A RAINY SEASON

I had hopes that the weather was going to change and go back to spring like days.  But I might as well face it.  It's rainy season.   Yesterday ( Tuesday the 7th ) it started off dry and sunny, but eventually became cloudy and gloomy.  Off and on periods of rain.

Now it's Wednesday the 8th and it started raining in the wee hours, stopped briefly and started back up again.     

The positive?  My old Haitian regular came over last night.  It's been hard getting chicks to come when they live in those neighboring towns where they may be getting more rain and flooding than here in Sosua.   But she made it here, even though it was raining where she was coming from.   

Chick looked like she may have been coming from Sosua/City Lights instead of to see me.  Had a nice dress on, hair nicely braided.  And acting very affectionate.  I was wondering if she was aware of what address her moto dropped her off at.   Something positively weird about her.   She rarely asks me for moto money when she comes here.

She arrives, pays her moto, and then comes inside.  Every other chick, especially my DR regulars, all look for me to pay their moto when they arrive.   Strange though.  My old Dominican regular who came over the other night, she did not ask me for moto money.   

What she did do, when she got dropped off,  she did not let me see who dropped her off.  She made sure he dropped her off before the entrance to my gate.   Then she walked to the gate for me to let her in.  I estimate that may be the local BF.  Either that, or her driver and her have worked out a sexual barter and exchange agreement.     

I took note of something else she did, which she's done before.  She wont get a moto when she leaves my spot.  Instead she always wants me to drive her.   She always asks to be dropped off by the plaza where Edenorte is, or where the 2nd hand clothing store is, where the old WU office used to be.   One time she had me drop her off at the Texaco station.

Now see, I know all too well whats going on here.  Ive seen it done many times, especially with other guys.  When a chick gets dropped off.  Her intention is to catch up with her other regulars she's got, not to go home.  But you arent supposed to know what she is doing. 

The other morning she told me to drop her off by Edenorte to pay a bill LOL.   I dont give a f--k.  I enjoyed my ride the night before and I paid my fee.  Im just glad the ride is over and I am free again.   I know how to play the p4p game just like the next man.  No harm, no foul.   This is the way the game is played.  Discretion, and no ball busting.  Do what you gotta do.   

Just dont come at me with no bullshit schemes and stories, and were good.  Well what do you know, it just stopped raining for now.   10:37am Wednesday May 8th
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 08, 2024, 10:02:13 AM
WE ARE IN A RAINY SEASON

I had hopes that the weather was going to change and go back to spring like days.  But I might as well face it.  It's rainy season.   Yesterday ( Tuesday the 7th ) it started off dry and sunny, but eventually became cloudy and gloomy.  Off and on periods of rain.

Now it's Wednesday the 8th and it started raining in the wee hours, stopped briefly and started back up again.     

The positive?  My old Haitian regular came over last night.  It's been hard getting chicks to come when they live in those neighboring towns where they may be getting more rain and flooding than here in Sosua.   But she made it here, even though it was raining where she was coming from.   

Chick looked like she may have been coming from Sosua/City Lights instead of to see me.  Had a nice dress on, hair nicely braided.  And acting very affectionate.  I was wondering if she was aware of what address her moto dropped her off at.   Something positively weird about her.   She rarely asks me for moto money when she comes here.

She arrives, pays her moto, and then comes inside.  Every other chick, especially my DR regulars, all look for me to pay their moto when they arrive.   Strange though.  My old Dominican regular who came over the other night, she did not ask me for moto money.   

What she did do, when she got dropped off,  she did not let me see who dropped her off.  She made sure he dropped her off before the entrance to my gate.   Then she walked to the gate for me to let her in.  I estimate that may be the local BF.  Either that, or her driver and her have worked out a sexual barter and exchange agreement.     

I took note of something else she did, which she's done before.  She wont get a moto when she leaves my spot.  Instead she always wants me to drive her.   She always asks to be dropped off by the plaza where Edenorte is, or where the 2nd hand clothing store is, where the old WU office used to be.   One time she had me drop her off at the Texaco station.

Now see, I know all too well whats going on here.  Ive seen it done many times, especially with other guys.  When a chick gets dropped off.  Her intention is to catch up with her other regulars she's got, not to go home.  But you arent supposed to know what she is doing. 

The other morning she told me to drop her off by Edenorte to pay a bill LOL.   I dont give a f--k.  I enjoyed my ride the night before and I paid my fee.  Im just glad the ride is over and I am free again.   I know how to play the p4p game just like the next man.  No harm, no foul.   This is the way the game is played.  Discretion, and no ball busting.  Do what you gotta do.   

Just dont come at me with no bullshit schemes and stories, and were good.  Well what do you know, it just stopped raining for now.   10:37am Wednesday May 8th

One of my semi-developing regulars (I’m starting to see her more frequently with each visit) has a boyfriend, and I was kinda unnerved the last time I finally figured out that it was him dropping her off at my place in plain sight, and not just a random moto guy, lol.

I actually know what he looks like and he knows what I look like, and the shit just felt so weird to me last time I was there, that I cancelled a scheduled TLN and just did an ST instead. 😆

I might stop seeing her altogether. I don’t like the idea or the feeling of a local boyfriend who’s always in the vicinity, knowing me and knowing all of my moves when I’m in town. Especially when I’m smashing his girl. 🥴



Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 08, 2024, 11:09:25 AM

One of my semi-developing regulars (I’m starting to see her more frequently with each visit) has a boyfriend, and I was kinda unnerved the last time I finally figured out that it was him dropping her off at my place in plain sight, and not just a random moto guy, lol.

I actually know what he looks like and he knows what I look like, and the shit just felt so weird to me last time I was there, that I cancelled a scheduled TLN and just did an ST instead. 😆

I might stop seeing her altogether. I don’t like the idea or the feeling of a local boyfriend who’s always in the vicinity, knowing me and knowing all of my moves when I’m in town. Especially when I’m smashing his girl. 🥴
Sounds like you could use a dose of some old school Cuba Dave videos.   Either his The Dreaded RFM video or the one about Sending Her Money.   

Seriously though, I hear you.  Looking back in time, most of my regulars were discreet when it came to their personal lives.  I had to assume they all had local boyfriends or husbands.   

The ones that werent regulars that had BF's or husbands, they would pull up on a moto, and I could tell that they were connected to each other.   I didnt know that the 1st few years.  I eventually was able to figure it out after I learned about it on forums like ISG.

Much later I saw the same thing with chicks in the Philippines.   Trike driver may be the chicks BF or husband.   One time the chick came on a trike with her daughter.   Driver pulled off.   When the chick finished with me, I escorted her to the exit from my hotel.   There sitting by a plant was her daughter waiting for her mother to come outside.    Now, shit like that, I dont like either.   Maybe they walked together to a designated pickup spot for the BF/husband to get them? 

Another time, a Filipina chick came to my apartment.   When she leaves, she walks past a guy sitting on a motocycle nearby.   When she got around the corner, he starts his bike up,  and goes around the corner to pick her up.   I decided to walk to the corner to see it happening.  She caught a glimpse of me standing there, and after that she stopped coming for a while.   But I didnt want her to come anyway.  I was turned off by that.

She was embarrassed that she got caught lying.  I had asked her before she came in the house, if that guy was waiting for her.  And she said no.   ( I had just missed her getting off of his bike ).    Ahhhh the lies these chicks weave, no matter where you are in the world.  Thats why I feel justified in weaving my own tales.   

At least you arent like those guys that will pose as a friend, but gets off on banging his friends girl behind his back.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 08, 2024, 03:50:17 PM
It has been said soooo many times "IT'S YOUR TURN" . Been hitting some regulars for 7-8yrs, because they like to f**k ,so are great in bed. When I'm not there?, they are still going to f**k, because that is what they like to do.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: justin_credible on May 08, 2024, 04:29:05 PM
WE ARE IN A RAINY SEASON

I had hopes that the weather was going to change and go back to spring like days.  But I might as well face it.  It's rainy season.   Yesterday ( Tuesday the 7th ) it started off dry and sunny, but eventually became cloudy and gloomy.  Off and on periods of rain.

Now it's Wednesday the 8th and it started raining in the wee hours, stopped briefly and started back up again.     

The positive?  My old Haitian regular came over last night.  It's been hard getting chicks to come when they live in those neighboring towns where they may be getting more rain and flooding than here in Sosua.   But she made it here, even though it was raining where she was coming from.   

Chick looked like she may have been coming from Sosua/City Lights instead of to see me.  Had a nice dress on, hair nicely braided.  And acting very affectionate.  I was wondering if she was aware of what address her moto dropped her off at.   Something positively weird about her.   She rarely asks me for moto money when she comes here.

She arrives, pays her moto, and then comes inside.  Every other chick, especially my DR regulars, all look for me to pay their moto when they arrive.   Strange though.  My old Dominican regular who came over the other night, she did not ask me for moto money.   

What she did do, when she got dropped off,  she did not let me see who dropped her off.  She made sure he dropped her off before the entrance to my gate.   Then she walked to the gate for me to let her in.  I estimate that may be the local BF.  Either that, or her driver and her have worked out a sexual barter and exchange agreement.     

I took note of something else she did, which she's done before.  She wont get a moto when she leaves my spot.  Instead she always wants me to drive her.   She always asks to be dropped off by the plaza where Edenorte is, or where the 2nd hand clothing store is, where the old WU office used to be.   One time she had me drop her off at the Texaco station.

Now see, I know all too well whats going on here.  Ive seen it done many times, especially with other guys.  When a chick gets dropped off.  Her intention is to catch up with her other regulars she's got, not to go home.  But you arent supposed to know what she is doing. 

The other morning she told me to drop her off by Edenorte to pay a bill LOL.   I dont give a f--k.  I enjoyed my ride the night before and I paid my fee.  Im just glad the ride is over and I am free again.   I know how to play the p4p game just like the next man.  No harm, no foul.   This is the way the game is played.  Discretion, and no ball busting.  Do what you gotta do.   

Just dont come at me with no bullshit schemes and stories, and were good.  Well what do you know, it just stopped raining for now.   10:37am Wednesday May 8th

Yeah, the motto thing is annoying, but with my tried regulars who I like, it does up the price from that 3500 ST plus 200 moto to 3700. A little pricey, however, if you got a decent woman, and she's worth the cost it CAN be worth it.

Another reason for not doing LT's is that the more you stay with them, the bigger the money pit. From , rides, dinners, presidente's etc. That stuff adds up fast. I understand that most guys don't want to pump and dump and need the vibe for longer, but I'm fine for them chilling for an hour after finishing the job and having a presidente at my place. Most of the women that I'm with aren't quoting Macbeth, so I'm not looking for in depth conversations.

I was also in the Su the last 2 weeks. The rain is annoying, however, id take that over the extreme heat of July. Just go with your regulars, and you'll be fine. I even added (and dropped) a couple girls to diversify the lineup a bit.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 08, 2024, 05:44:13 PM
Sure why not have the local boy friend drop off the chica, he gets a few pesos,, then goes out with his friends have a few beers mabey a game of dominoes then happily picks her up later for a cut of the pesos,,,,,no big deal !! the bueaty of this arrange ment is she not going to nag you bicth about things like every other wife or main girl friend, she going to be busy at the task at hand , entertaining  you !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 08, 2024, 06:06:52 PM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 08, 2024, 09:44:32 PM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 08, 2024, 10:23:51 PM
Good point, Enjoy the chica,, dont go to deep in there personal life or buisness,,, you may not like what you see, like posted you dont want to tangel with locals over some barrio chica  Unless your there living full time and your takeing the chica out of the game,,, be carfule you may end up being the gringo novio,, thats means there going to want more out of you,, just keep it simple. P4P,have fun your paying them to leave,, if you want a wife a non pro is your best bet !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Ted68 on May 09, 2024, 02:39:12 AM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.
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Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: sosuajefe on May 09, 2024, 07:16:29 AM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.

I got myself in an awkward position once. I was driving aroundcharamicos with my lil homie from there. He pointed out a regulars house, said she lives there. We went in, and she invited us in. She was just cleaning the spot and thats when her "brother" aka baby dad pulls in. Guy was brolic, def on steroids. But at least he was cordial and no issues arised. He played it off cause technically the pesos I'd give her in turn help his lifestyle.

I don't understand how some men can willingly give their BM to a next guy but I guess its cause it pays the bills. Chulo lifestyle. Guess its in their genetics and every dollar counts.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: PoonTangClan on May 09, 2024, 09:36:45 AM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.

I got myself in an awkward position once. I was driving aroundcharamicos with my lil homie from there. He pointed out a regulars house, said she lives there. We went in, and she invited us in. She was just cleaning the spot and thats when her "brother" aka baby dad pulls in. Guy was brolic, def on steroids. But at least he was cordial and no issues arised. He played it off cause technically the pesos I'd give her in turn help his lifestyle.

I don't understand how some men can willingly give their BM to a next guy but I guess its cause it pays the bills. Chulo lifestyle. Guess its in their genetics and every dollar counts.

Wow. That’s crazy. Gotta be careful. Just because they tolerate it, (the boyfriends) it definitely doesn’t mean that they like it, lol.

Some might say “the boyfriend’s a pimp!” Naa. The boyfriend is a cuck. Smh. Ain’t nothing “pimp” about that. 😆


Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 09, 2024, 06:30:20 PM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.
Any normal thinking dude should consider his safety when it comes to dealing with locals.  A chick could say something foul about her client, just to get the boyfriend upset.  And now you got this dude wanting to get at you for something some chick said.   

And besides, how are we supposed to know for sure, that the BF is really dealing with it?   That dude could easily be tolerating the whole situation.   And if he wanted to, he could do something against you, without her knowledge.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bionicsound on May 09, 2024, 07:05:11 PM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.
Any normal thinking dude should consider his safety when it comes to dealing with locals.  A chick could say something foul about her client, just to get the boyfriend upset.  And now you got this dude wanting to get at you for something some chick said.   

And besides, how are we supposed to know for sure, that the BF is really dealing with it?   That dude could easily be tolerating the whole situation.   And if he wanted to, he could do something against you, without her knowledge.

I've heard that those dudes are straight cowards and if their manhood is threatened, will literally shoot/stab you in the back when you're not looking. Any credence to this?
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 09, 2024, 07:49:59 PM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.
Any normal thinking dude should consider his safety when it comes to dealing with locals.  A chick could say something foul about her client, just to get the boyfriend upset.  And now you got this dude wanting to get at you for something some chick said.   

And besides, how are we supposed to know for sure, that the BF is really dealing with it?   That dude could easily be tolerating the whole situation.   And if he wanted to, he could do something against you, without her knowledge.

I've heard that those dudes are straight cowards and if their manhood is threatened, will literally shoot/stab you in the back when you're not looking. Any credence to this?
For the most part, local men seem to be more interested with playing like they arent connected to the girl they dropped off to a client.   Which makes bad incidents with local men and foreigners rare.   

The incidents where the chick is sneaking behind her BF or husbands back, those are the situations where any guy should be concerned about his safety.   Generally speaking, I believe local men if they feel a need to fight somebody, they may be inclined to use a weapon, rather than a one on one fist fight.   

A weapon could be a knife, a bottle, a machete, anything they may get their hands on.   The worse case scenario, is a foreigner finding himself being attacked by multiple local men all at the same time.   And that threat could be for just about anything.   Being involved in a car accident involving something stupid done by a local.   

Locals generally dont take responsibility for their mistakes or errors in judgement.   Avoid unnecessary arguments with locals.  Because you are not going to make them accept responsibility or see the light.   
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: bionicsound on May 09, 2024, 08:40:35 PM
Wow. "No es mi culpa" huh? Thanks Murano. I planned on trying to explain simple business ethics and how fleecing the gringo is monumentally stupid  as opposed to generating repeat business. Gotta remind myself that it ain't Murica. I take your word for it since that will clearly fall on deaf ears.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 13, 2024, 03:54:01 PM
Who flipped the muthablubbing switch to ON?

IT FEELS LIKE SUMMER NOW.   4 DAYS STRAIGHT AND COUNTING!   1st time me using AC two days straight.   Time to start making it to the beach. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: stinqu on May 14, 2024, 09:00:33 PM
If he can deal with it why can't you? Some of these DR. dudes are straight up pimps, tell these young chicas "I love you, we will get married" and take all their money and leave them prego. No wonder some of them are bitches!!!

It’s a bit of a security issue. You just never know when and if a boyfriend might catch feelings over you banging out his girl, and the last thing you want is to get caught out there unawares.

Think about it. You’re in his country on his turf, where he has resources and home court advantage to potentially plot and get at you. He also knows what you look like, and where you’re staying.

I grew up in the mix of the street life, so my level of situational awareness might be a little more keen than others. I can always recognize potential hazards at play, and this is generally not what I feel like dealing with while I’m on vacation. Definitely not over a chick.
Any normal thinking dude should consider his safety when it comes to dealing with locals.  A chick could say something foul about her client, just to get the boyfriend upset.  And now you got this dude wanting to get at you for something some chick said.   

And besides, how are we supposed to know for sure, that the BF is really dealing with it?   That dude could easily be tolerating the whole situation.   And if he wanted to, he could do something against you, without her knowledge.

I've heard that those dudes are straight cowards and if their manhood is threatened, will literally shoot/stab you in the back when you're not looking. Any credence to this?
For the most part, local men seem to be more interested with playing like they arent connected to the girl they dropped off to a client.   Which makes bad incidents with local men and foreigners rare.   

The incidents where the chick is sneaking behind her BF or husbands back, those are the situations where any guy should be concerned about his safety.   Generally speaking, I believe local men if they feel a need to fight somebody, they may be inclined to use a weapon, rather than a one on one fist fight.   

A weapon could be a knife, a bottle, a machete, anything they may get their hands on.   The worse case scenario, is a foreigner finding himself being attacked by multiple local men all at the same time.   And that threat could be for just about anything.   Being involved in a car accident involving something stupid done by a local.   

Locals generally dont take responsibility for their mistakes or errors in judgement.   Avoid unnecessary arguments with locals.  Because you are not going to make them accept responsibility or see the light.
From what I have learned of Dominicans ,if they have a beef with a Gringo (for the most part) will play the long game so they have some cover For the men is saving face, for the chicas it's getting even I don't know how you feel, but I think Karma is real.
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on May 16, 2024, 03:39:39 AM
Who flipped the muthablubbing switch to ON?

IT FEELS LIKE SUMMER NOW.   4 DAYS STRAIGHT AND COUNTING!   1st time me using AC two days straight.   Time to start making it to the beach.
Guess it is hot,,,,,,Chica bitched to me about the heat i thought she was bullshitting  hehe !
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on May 17, 2024, 09:36:22 AM
If you are currently down here stock up on alcohol.  Store clerk at Super Super just told me no alcohol will be sold Saturday and Sunday because of the elections.  (My guess is some spots will sell on the low).
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 17, 2024, 12:54:41 PM
If you are currently down here stock up on alcohol.  Store clerk at Super Super just told me no alcohol will be sold Saturday and Sunday) because of the elections.  (My guess is some spots will sell on the low).
Thats a good tip for those that need that info.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: murano2010 on May 17, 2024, 05:31:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8UH1_m3p8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8UH1_m3p8)

Day 7 of Summer Madness in Sosua. 
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: Viva La Vega on May 17, 2024, 06:17:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8UH1_m3p8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8UH1_m3p8)

Day 7 of Summer Madness in Sosua.

That tweaked a memory...

https://youtu.be/Kr0tTbTbmVA?si=LGxcYa-mV32hghFw
Title: Re: Current Observatios on the Strip/PC
Post by: 2Up on May 18, 2024, 08:42:50 AM
If you are currently down here stock up on alcohol.  Store clerk at Super Super just told me no alcohol will be sold Saturday and Sunday) because of the elections.  (My guess is some spots will sell on the low).
Thats a good tip for those that need that info.  Thanks.

Anytime.

One of the colmados is selling brugal / small selection of alcohol. Won’t name the spot.  Guessing other small spots are selling also.
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