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« Reply #1710 on: March 01, 2023, 10:12:45 AM »
You are beyond wrong.
most dominican males are not going to just let a gringo f them up if they do, and go lick their wounds.
they are coming back with cousins, friends, whatever.
you let on to know more than you know.
you are the same naive that think they ran from flip late that evening.
you are the same naive and kissing up to, to believe flip went hunting in the neighborhoods for them and he approached them and they ran.
no gringo is hunting down dominican people to kick their asses a d there is no consequences.
you must think this is Training Day where the white boy walks into the hood for Alonzo.
smh
plus any of you who think flp flop can whip all asses you must think less of yourself as a man and he can kick your asses.
flip flop on that video has to keep up an image to you all that worship him like scared men.

I’m not there. There’s no way for me to know if those Dominicans harassing Flip ran from him or not. 🤷🏾‍♂️

But I do know however, based on Murano’s report, that Flip definitely went looking for them.

If things escalate, yes, Flip would need to watch his back, but that goes for anyone, not just gringos.

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« Reply #1711 on: March 01, 2023, 12:08:58 PM »
Tuesday February 28th,  2023

The other day I saw chicas on foot patrol.  Hardly any activity by Bar Central, The German restaurant.  Much of the foot traffic was closer to Kings and Chez Montreal.  Hardly any chicas inside Kings on that day/night.  And not many chicks by Chez Montreal.

The Dominican chicks we see on foot patrol.  Many of them seem to have the same MO.  Many of them dont have the patience to come inside of Kings to sit their asses down, and appear as if they have some class.  The chicks that do operate like that,  we have to slowly wait for them to return to work.   

Those are the ones that may make the effort of dressing up a little bit.  Wearing heels.  Their absence may be attributed to being with family/boyfriends etc.  And also tending to their side hustle from their Whatsapp contacts.  Like the clients flying into SDQ or STI.  Once done with them, they can hustle on up to Sosua.   

Your reporting is always appreciated. 💯

I’ve spoken to a number of chicas that have told me that they dislike Kings; it’s vibe, the type of clientele that tend to frequent the place at busier times (the loud and rowdy type) etc.

I believe that’s why a fair amount of chicas don’t want to come inside and post up these days. It also doesn’t help that Kings isn’t exactly a classy looking place. Like someone once said, the spot looks like a South Bronx bingo hall, lol. I don’t like it either. I’m usually in and out of there in short order.
I liked Rumba when it looked much cozier inside.  More subdued lighting.  Kings seems too bright, and open. 

When I hear reports of chicks complaints of a place,  I think it has more to do with their success rate ( or lack of ) in scoring clients.   When I compare my recollection of Rumbas around 2012 on, before Rey took over.  Many chicks got clients very easily up in Rumbas.   In fact you might recall seeing some cats sit by the rest room so they can see the chicks going in and coming out.   

A dude could see them in the rest room from a distance, combing their real hair.  Taking the Tubi off.   Then coming out the rest room looking more stunning than when they entered.   Guys catching chicks right at the rest room is how some chicks got hired. 

I do not believe these days, there is a large volume of guys snatching up chicks like THAT,  in Kings.  Mainly because many of those chicks have shot themselves in the foot.   The old Rumbas, discussing price and time, was a formality, just to confirm they both were in the same ballpark.   But today discussing price is a necessity.   

What many of those chicks are asking is TLN prices for ST service.  So, what has happened IMO, a lot of guys love looking at the chicas, but the hiring rate has slowed down so much, that the chicas trying to post up inside of Kings , have taken notice.  Many guys are being more cautious in hiring chicks,  knowing what to expect.   That means more chicks sitting around for long periods of time.  Not working, but guys flirting and taking numbers.   That IMO is why a lot chicks claim they dont like Kings.

It's like the group of chicks that go out to a disco/club.  The chicks that get to dance and have drinks bought for them,  they love the place.   The chicks that got no attention or the wrong attention from guys they didnt like, and no drinks, hated the place.     
« Last Edit: March 01, 2023, 12:28:29 PM by murano2010 »
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« Reply #1712 on: March 01, 2023, 12:39:09 PM »
@Murano, 
Yes sir…Indeed.!!!

Rumbas/Kings was best when they had the high tables and chairs and the guys and girls sat side by side, back to back..

The place was small and cozy and you had to say excuse me or pardon me to move around.

When you entered all eyes where on you, girls smiled and grabbed at your arm or whatever else they could get hold of to get your attention.

Now it’s to spread out, to loud with both TV’s and music going at the same time.. The place now is just to big.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2023, 12:49:09 PM by nickmirr »
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« Reply #1713 on: March 01, 2023, 02:38:02 PM »
Yes to  loud ! as far as the chicas maby more guys know the standard prices and are not going to fall for the 100-150 usd price, or there not seasoned mongers  but are not going to be thirsty jumping at chicas, also lousy attitudes rotten aproaches by chicas ,   it was better in the old days with no whatz app  !

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« Reply #1714 on: March 01, 2023, 03:39:29 PM »
Yes to  loud ! as far as the chicas maby more guys know the standard prices and are not going to fall for the 100-150 usd price, or there not seasoned mongers  but are not going to be thirsty jumping at chicas, also lousy attitudes rotten aproaches by chicas ,   it was better in the old days with no whatz app  !
Agree totally, the place is loud, zero atmosphere, loud music and TVs at the same time and people talking over all of that. Like Poontang said,feels like a bingo hall.

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« Reply #1715 on: March 02, 2023, 03:23:46 AM »
My take on Livegate is They could just be some random dustheads but I have a hard time beleiving that Flip could just go whip their asses and that would be the end of it.

The one dude sounded like a New Yorker himself so he's probably a criminal deportee same as 3rd Mundo at the very least Jail means a short time in the bing. If Flip goes to jail it will be a short time in the Bing as well but with no connections and no one to run his business while he's locked and he'd be deported back to the States.

For that reason alone it wouldn't be worth it to engage in fisticuffs unless directly attacked.

That's the wierdest thing about Greg the fake Tough guy act.  I remember when he was going back and forth with Mayor of Sosua and in one video he had some dudes (from the states) around insinuating they would smack Mayor If Flip pressed a button.

Mayor is just a rando expat and the closest to getting slapped was with Jendry and even that was a sassfest argument that didn't actually lead to hands being applied. Other than appearing Tough and like he showed them, I don't see how this is a good look for Greg again anyone could walk up on him at anytime, At end of the day the Dominicans really didn't seem to want problems because if they did they could fought him right there.

Other than the I'm from 40's and Baliey's and Pappy Mason is my Pop's . I can't see how or why anyone should be impressed.  Besides f--k it if he is affilliated any Queens Mobs then just say it instead of  constantly alluding to it. Even if he was down with 7 crowns Lance Feurtado is an old ass Man, I really doubt that Dominican dudes would move on his say so.

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« Reply #1716 on: March 02, 2023, 03:32:55 AM »
Tuesday February 28th,  2023

Was out and about on the strip early evening.  Something I said years ago still is applicable today.  You cant accurately judge the status or vibe of Sosua by one day, one week or one month.  Or one vacation from the previous vacation.  One day can be different from the next.  One vacation can be different from the next or the previous vacation.

So every time when guys ( especially myself ) try to make judgements and assessments about the status of Sosua, especially it's visitors,  they/we need to take into consideration that that report is only good for that moment.  That report or observation does not or will not necessarily be valid for another day, week or vacation.

The other day I saw chicas on foot patrol.  Hardly any activity by Bar Central, The German restaurant.  Much of the foot traffic was closer to Kings and Chez Montreal.  Hardly any chicas inside Kings on that day/night.  And not many chicks by Chez Montreal

Fast forward to last night, and this time I see a good amount of Haitian chicas posted up by Bar Central, the German restaurant, and several a few feet away just to the right of The German restaurant.   Yesterday was one of the best warm weather days weve had.  So Im assuming the beach had a few chicas strolling the beach or even sitting still at tables in the open area.

Yesterday, I must have seen a dozen different groups of guys walking together on the strip.  All seemed to be newer guys to me.   Also, you can see the increased presence of new expats.  Including guys who probably felt it was a good idea to live away from Sosua.  Like in PP, or Cabarete, but every time you look, you see them in Sosua because they dont have much going on where they chose to live. 

Sosua lights still seems very slow.   Very few Haitian chicas pile up in there looking for work.  Most seem to want to be on the strip where more action and exposure is.  Standing on the sidewalk looking like a prostitute,  they can score a client.  Sitting at a table inside of Sosua Lights waiting to score a client makes them look like they have some class.   Cant have that can we?   That takes too much time.   Guy wants to talk and buy drinks.  Many of these chicks aint got time for all of that.  Not even enough of these Haitian chicks.

The Dominican chicks we see on foot patrol.  Many of them seem to have the same MO.  Many of them dont have the patience to come inside of Kings to sit their asses down, and appear as if they have some class.  The chicks that do operate like that,  we have to slowly wait for them to return to work.   

Those are the ones that may make the effort of dressing up a little bit.  Wearing heels.  Their absence may be attributed to being with family/boyfriends etc.  And also tending to their side hustle from their Whatsapp contacts.  Like the clients flying into SDQ or STI.  Once done with them, they can hustle on up to Sosua. 

But dont be fooled gents.  That doesnt mean any of them chicks have class or are worth more than the chicks on foot patrol.  All they are doing is trying to look a certain way to fake guys out into thinking they should be paying more for the fancy package.  Stuff that easily impresses a lot of guys.  Especially many of the guys Im seeing walking around Sosua, with a DR or Haitian hustler(s) in tow. 

Still seeing dudes coming here wearing flashy jewelry and watches.  Trying to pay for shit with US cash instead of pesos.   A new set of guys that will need to learn some lessons on how to roll in this environment.  The hustlers, chicas and locals that live off of foreigners,  are in heaven.

Fresh Meat is not necessarily a bad thing. They pay for the improvements and contribute to the local economy. I've Met Colombianas in Sosua There's casas staffed with Colombianas in SD. The draw for Dominicans, Haitians, Vennies Colombians and Cubans is the classic Dumb ass Dub Dubs.

It's the whole reason why that sleeply little beach town is so special.  There's a reason why you're in Sosua and not say Miches both are beach towns but one has way more nicer restaurantes and way more bitches than the other. Like you said about the superbowl let fresh "mangoes" get sucked in the game by wild stories of their amigas who claimed they made 500 USD for a 3 minute handjob. When they find out that wasn't true you could f--k her 6 ways to sunday for 35 bucks.

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« Reply #1717 on: March 02, 2023, 03:47:54 AM »
The crazy price quotes and the rise of online shopping leads to analysis paralysis. Dudes are in full Kid in a Candystore mode. They'd sportsf--k or lay up with one or two chicas If prices were more regulated. But inviting a random unvetted chica to you Villa is bad news so dudes spend way more time watching and collecting numbers than actually f--king.

Guys are taking pictures and getting the Ho Fax before they even engage, not to mention dudes furiously swiping on Tinder.

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« Reply #1718 on: March 02, 2023, 05:30:30 AM »

you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

I kinda get where you are coming from. They were too close for comfort.

The prolem is.....Dominicans can pretty much talk big shit all they want to gringos. Even if Flip two-pieced both of them and put their lights out...guess who's going to jail, paying a shit ton of money, and potentially losing his job?

In fact, I would have told them YOU KNOW IF I KNOCK THIS BIG CLOWN OUT THEN BODY SLAM YOUR LITTLE ASS...I GOTTA GO TO JAIL.

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« Reply #1719 on: March 02, 2023, 06:09:44 AM »
My take on Livegate is They could just be some random dustheads but I have a hard time beleiving that Flip could just go whip their asses and that would be the end of it.

The one dude sounded like a New Yorker himself so he's probably a criminal deportee same as 3rd Mundo at the very least Jail means a short time in the bing. If Flip goes to jail it will be a short time in the Bing as well but with no connections and no one to run his business while he's locked and he'd be deported back to the States.

For that reason alone it wouldn't be worth it to engage in fisticuffs unless directly attacked.

That's the wierdest thing about Greg the fake Tough guy act.  I remember when he was going back and forth with Mayor of Sosua and in one video he had some dudes (from the states) around insinuating they would smack Mayor If Flip pressed a button.

Mayor is just a rando expat and the closest to getting slapped was with Jendry and even that was a sassfest argument that didn't actually lead to hands being applied. Other than appearing Tough and like he showed them, I don't see how this is a good look for Greg again anyone could walk up on him at anytime, At end of the day the Dominicans really didn't seem to want problems because if they did they could fought him right there.

Other than the I'm from 40's and Baliey's and Pappy Mason is my Pop's . I can't see how or why anyone should be impressed.  Besides f--k it if he is affilliated any Queens Mobs then just say it instead of  constantly alluding to it. Even if he was down with 7 crowns Lance Feurtado is an old ass Man, I really doubt that Dominican dudes would move on his say so.

Man....Flip is a pathological LIAR. This dude says he was a star athlete with scholarship offers and at the same time a drug dealer and a rapper. He lies so much that it gets uncomfortable being around him and listening to that nonsense.

Flip hasn't been on USA soil in YEARS. That means he has ALREADY been deported out of the USA, or he can't go back because of child support or taxes.

Mayor has mental issues, but he's tolerable. I ran into him in Copa one late night. He had beef with some local young drug dealers/gun runners, regarding his gambling practices one night at the casino.

I give it to Mayor, he didn't punk out. He did get thrown out of Copa. The young dude PAID for Mayor's beer as a show of power to get him thrown out.

The young dude spoke good English, and after Mayor left he said this to me:

I remember you from when I was a kid. You are a good guy. But he better watch his back. I got guns (flashed the butt of it on his waist) and drugs on the street, I can really do something bad to him.

He was with 3 or 4 other dudes. I told him 'thanks' and 'take care of yourself', gave him a bro hand shake and left.

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« Reply #1720 on: March 02, 2023, 06:25:35 AM »

you another worshiper.
screw little man, big man, whatever.
the dominican said screw your live we talking now.
also if any of you believe that flip flop saw them later and they ran.
you are really sucking flips nuts.
he has many of you so freaking brainwashed.
what dominican is going to allow a gringo to harm another dominican without your ass getting f--ked up?

I kinda get where you are coming from. They were too close for comfort.

The prolem is.....Dominicans can pretty much talk big shit all they want to gringos. Even if Flip two-pieced both of them and put their lights out...guess who's going to jail, paying a shit ton of money, and potentially losing his job?

In fact, I would have told them YOU KNOW IF I KNOCK THIS BIG CLOWN OUT THEN BODY SLAM YOUR LITTLE ASS...I GOTTA GO TO JAIL.

The jail thing goes out the window the minute he picked up that bat and hammer and went (supposedly) looking for them.

If he’s going to brandish weapons later, he may as well kicked there ass right then and there.

So let’s be honest here.. He was worried about jail and the restaurant when they approached him, but not worried about jail and the restaurant when he grabbed the bat and hammer..

Please help me make sense of that because I can’t figure it out on my own.🤔🤔
« Last Edit: March 02, 2023, 06:40:27 AM by nickmirr »
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« Reply #1721 on: March 02, 2023, 08:35:04 AM »
Like ive said before, Sosua at Times is a freak show.with Drama ,You know how things work! here today gone tommoro, Get the pop corn and cotton candy !

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« Reply #1722 on: March 02, 2023, 08:40:45 AM »

One thing I learned a while ago from Mario Chessa (who owned Hotel Villa Chessa before he died) is to have a great 'relationship' with police - the higher ranking the better.
After some shit like this....I would definitely call my police friends for advice.
I also learned there are pros and cons to having a "relationship" with the police.  My recollection of Mario was that although he had the police as backup, or he was left alone, that relationship came with a no turning back cost factor.  Mario also used his police friends and clout to help other guys who had law enforcement problems, chica problems or other problems.   

Thing is, it's hard for me to depict the DR police as real friends, or having a great relationship with them.   Their connection to Mario was IMO based on neither of those concepts.   Their connection was more of an understanding.  We can afford you some benefits, but you have to compensate us.  Not sure who initiated the relationship?  Sometimes business owners initiate getting involved with the police.  Start paying them or giving them treats before being approached.  And then the compensation relationship builds from there. 

Other times, it's the police that drop the hints, to get the compensation ball rolling. "Here, here's my number.  If you have any problems just call me".    Once you start calling,  now you are in bed with the police.  And the wants and needs of police escalate from there.   

The problem Im speaking of,  is that once you get in bed with the police,  there aint no turning it off.  Once in, and they consider you a rich gringo, you cant be cheap.  The cops perks may escalate from a few bucks here and there, or a few meals here and there at Villa Chessa to being quite extensive. 

The more things they do for you, and the higher the severity of the situation they handle for you, the more one may be expected to pay in compensation to those looking out for THEIR cash cow.   True one can think of it as just having paid security.   But regular security usually has a fixed salary, including maybe medical.
You can sever ties with your security by following the rules.  Terminate without consequences. 

When dealing with cops, or even other entities, like the mayor? :   

One can be expected to kick out hundreds , maybe even thousands of dollars a year to satisfy the people who supposedly have this great "relationship" with them.   Once in bed with the cops, they arent just protecting the business owner, they are protecting their income stream. 

Just like some man/woman relationships.  The relationship is only good for some women, when the women feel appropriately compensated.  Stop paying for the relationship with the cops, and see how easily they can turn on their benefactor.   Just like an employee strike. 

David from the 2413 Sports Bar was approached to pay a certain % in order to be able to operate his Sports Complex.  And Im not talking about police brass.   Although Im sure they also were in the mix when David was trying to open when the lockdowns were being lifted.   

At the time he refused the extortion.  But paid a price for not playing ball.   So it's not always a good idea for a business to consider the police their friends, or supposedly having a great relationship with them, if the main thing bonding them is you have to pay them.   And if you change up or dont compensate, they then may become retaliatory.         
« Last Edit: March 02, 2023, 08:44:48 AM by murano2010 »
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« Reply #1723 on: March 02, 2023, 09:04:10 AM »
I adopted the strategy ( Im not assuming it's fool proof ) that I will offer compensation to certain cops, where we have an understanding that compensation will be offered when services or assistance has been provided.  Not the way Ive seen, where one doesnt know what to expect.  I want to control when and what the compensation is, not the people offering their services.   

For instance, getting a request to bring back a laptop or a new iPhone.  Expecting me to pay for it too, but them not reimbursing me.   2ndly, how do I know when or if Im ever caught up with paying them, if they keep expecting me to wet their beaks?   What happens the time I need them, and they're not available?  Or dont answer because I didnt buy the Iphone or Laptop they requested. 

IMO payment for services rendered is a better policy.  Just like how we compensate chicas.  Notice how when we pay chicas up front,expecting to get compensated later, you end up paying more.  Because they dont remember or care about the shit you did for them before.  They still think you owe them, even though you paid them already.   
« Last Edit: March 02, 2023, 09:07:37 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #1724 on: March 02, 2023, 09:29:26 AM »
Just here for a few days, weekend warrior style. Talking about Rumba, I cant even go in there it makes me so uncomfortable. I have said before, maybe they have been told they can not have high tables because it is a "restaurant". But the atmosphere sucks, just a giant room with bright lights, banquet tables and plastic chairs.

I don't know why no girls go in Merengue, the owners must have been told not to let them in.

City lights probably has the best potential right now but... The door is searching bags for all the chicas going in, a pretty girl last night, clearly off work from a hotel in a work uniform and the guy turned her away. So barely anyone inside.

So whats left, the sidewalk... How are you supposed to stop and speak to a chica when the beggars, trannies, moto's and really ran through old gals are all in the mix trying to get you attention.

This place... It's getting kind of depressing here.

 







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