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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied(I tell them I’m good, I’m not not comfortable paying that a majority of the time, however there are some chics who instead push for $100 because they “need to buy a new iPhone and it’s $1000” smh) and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
Not saying it’s not fun but I can’t live off fast food, I need a cooked meal that’s been prepared for a while. Met plenty of cool dudes, at great food, most of my smashes didn’t require a blue pill to stay hard or finish. It was a good trip, just burned out and no desire to immediately return. Smh at the bridge still being incomplete, it’s no one there working at all. Weirdo locals doing locals things, children being annoying at night time, police officers running the girls off from rumbas so stretches where it’s nothing to look at but old grandmas and kids begging.
I went to SantoDomingo and similar issue with passed out drunk locals in tourist spots. Went to Santiago and other places and still was bored. I wasn’t annoyed thankfully so I’d prefer boredom to harassment. Sosua is still a good spot but I just have to see why Panama, Peru, Portugal, Kenya, St Martinique, and some other places are like so DR 25/26 maybe.
Flights prices were also higher than usual even when booking in advance where Nyc last minute still was cheaper than Fl to DR months in advance. Spirt to STI was more than NYC to POP. It was up to 6-7 guys moving as a unit at one point before we split up, it was a legitimately enjoyable experience just burned out and I only vist 1-2x a year, 4 times at max due to multiple birthday parties. It’s possible to spend under 120/week for a room with AC, smokable, room service, security, and near the strip, so definitely worth it if you planned right. I had a 8.5/10 trip. It peaked the first week. The price point increasing ultimately is what makes it not worth it. Jaco is fun but too expensive, you take a guy who only knows Jaco and out him in Sosua and he’s not returning to Jaco a majority of the time if it’s a weekend warrior or expat(70/night for the cheapest room with ac that’s not in a hostel) because 60-80 for what usual is a 40-50 chic will add up 56dop to usd atm instead of 50-52. So 4K is around 71 not 80. You can spin the math in your head but for me, if I’m spending up there, I might as well see other stuff vs being bored.
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
Not saying it’s not fun but I can’t live off fast food, I need a cooked meal that’s been prepared for a while. Met plenty of cool dudes, at great food, most of my smashes didn’t require a blue pill to stay hard or finish. It was a good trip, just burned out and no desire to immediately return. Smh at the bridge still being incomplete, it’s no one there working at all. Weirdo locals doing locals things, children being annoying at night time, police officers running the girls off from rumbas so stretches where it’s nothing to look at but old grandmas and kids begging.
I went to SantoDomingo and similar issue with passed out drunk locals in tourist spots. Went to Santiago and other places and still was bored. I wasn’t annoyed thankfully so I’d prefer boredom to harassment. Sosua is still a good spot but I just have to see why Panama, Peru, Portugal, Kenya, St Martinique, and some other places are like so DR 25/26 maybe.
Flights prices were also higher than usual even when booking in advance where Nyc last minute still was cheaper than Fl to DR months in advance. Spirt to STI was more than NYC to POP. It was up to 6-7 guys moving as a unit at one point before we split up, it was a legitimately enjoyable experience just burned out and I only vist 1-2x a year, 4 times at max due to multiple birthday parties. It’s possible to spend under 120/week for a room with AC, smokable, room service, security, and near the strip, so definitely worth it if you planned right. I had a 8.5/10 trip. It peaked the first week. The price point increasing ultimately is what makes it not worth it. Jaco is fun but too expensive, you take a guy who only knows Jaco and out him in Sosua and he’s not returning to Jaco a majority of the time if it’s a weekend warrior or expat(70/night for the cheapest room with ac that’s not in a hostel) because 60-80 for what usual is a 40-50 chic will add up 56dop to usd atm instead of 50-52. So 4K is around 71 not 80. You can spin the math in your head but for me, if I’m spending up there, I might as well see other stuff vs being bored.
All good points, latley i do a 7 day trips evety other month, down to one semi pro, im an old guy , as posted sosua has gone down hill as far as the chicas, and your right yah got to do other fun things than just sport f--k chicas, i cook my own food , save money, i still like the beach, and good weather, but change is good meaning going other spots !Sosua it is what it is !
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Travelguy,
I appreciate your report. 🤝🏾
I concur with many of your observations and experiences. I was there recently myself, and although I had a good time, I found the attempted high quotes by chicas and the accompanying attitudes, off-putting.
I got the rates that I wanted of course, but I didn’t deal with a whole lot of new chicas this time around. I just wasn’t feeling how they were moving. On top of that, as everyone knows, quality is down, so there weren’t as many impressive options as there used to be around town.
Aside from all that, burnout is definitely a real thing. This is why I don’t do more than a week at a time in DR at most, and I try not to visit the same destination too frequently.
I’ll only go somewhere if I really have a burning desire to do so. A trip is always better and fresher that way.
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
I can stay a week in Sosua MAX without getting bored. A month for me would be overkill and Sosua is nothing but a small mediocre hoe-town. I'm extremely surprised that 3-4k prices were denied. Normally 3500 for me was more than enough, but maybe things have changed in the last 6 months. There are 3 facts about Sosua.
1. The quality is down
2. The GFE is pretty much nonexistent
3. Prices are increasing on everything (this may just be global inflation)
I'm not going to comment on service, because I believe that's always hit or miss. Personally, I've always had solid service with the exception of a couple of star fishes. I'm just curious if there is a lack of Haitian chikas with the current crackdown? Without Haitians, it doesn't keep the local Dominicans honest in service or price. Could that be the issue? I suggest to newbies (not you poontang) to get a decent roster of girls and don't be afraid to rotate the cycle every time you go there. Your first trip should be no more than one week max, especially if you just plan on staying in Sosua.
You are onto something about the under 30 women crowd. I hate to be mean, but they are dumb as rocks and have no concept of rational thinking even if it is to their benefit. You'd think, that a foreigner who makes 10X their annual income would have them foaming at the mouth and at least pretend to give a damn and at least provide good service and try to make them happy but naaaaw. They figure there are plenty of suckers out there or they just don't give a damn.
Attitudes are better in Asia and Africa and I soon plan on spending my time/dollars there.
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It's only worth it for a weekend and maybe the Monday after. The street thug thwat's are fun to play wit but they get you tired with a longtime. Too much playing and fooling for me to bother with for more than an hour. Papi, Papi, Papi...
We lookin for new spots too. Might have to put the slippers on and do that Asia flight again. The choices are cleaner and better behaving than the Sosua ho factory.
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
I can stay a week in Sosua MAX without getting bored. A month for me would be overkill and Sosua is nothing but a small mediocre hoe-town. I'm extremely surprised that 3-4k prices were denied. Normally 3500 for me was more than enough, but maybe things have changed in the last 6 months. There are 3 facts about Sosua.
1. The quality is down
2. The GFE is pretty much nonexistent
3. Prices are increasing on everything (this may just be global inflation)
I'm not going to comment on service, because I believe that's always hit or miss. Personally, I've always had solid service with the exception of a couple of star fishes. I'm just curious if there is a lack of Haitian chikas with the current crackdown? Without Haitians, it doesn't keep the local Dominicans honest in service or price. Could that be the issue? I suggest to newbies (not you poontang) to get a decent roster of girls and don't be afraid to rotate the cycle every time you go there. Your first trip should be no more than one week max, especially if you just plan on staying in Sosua.
You are onto something about the under 30 women crowd. I hate to be mean, but they are dumb as rocks and have no concept of rational thinking even if it is to their benefit. You'd think, that a foreigner who makes 10X their annual income would have them foaming at the mouth and at least pretend to give a damn and at least provide good service and try to make them happy but naaaaw. They figure there are plenty of suckers out there or they just don't give a damn.
Attitudes are better in Asia and Africa and I soon plan on spending my time/dollars there.
💯 I was actually planning to be in Sosua this coming weekend but opted to spend time with my crazy family for an impromptu reunion so something is definitely wrong lol. I used to be enthusiastic about my trips there and DR in general but it's waned due to the factors you mentioned and then some. I'm looking at maybe returning in January but also considering setting aside my time and go to Thailand for something totally new. I'll be back but also absence makes the heart fonder as well lol.
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
I can stay a week in Sosua MAX without getting bored. A month for me would be overkill and Sosua is nothing but a small mediocre hoe-town. I'm extremely surprised that 3-4k prices were denied. Normally 3500 for me was more than enough, but maybe things have changed in the last 6 months. There are 3 facts about Sosua.
1. The quality is down
2. The GFE is pretty much nonexistent
3. Prices are increasing on everything (this may just be global inflation)
I'm not going to comment on service, because I believe that's always hit or miss. Personally, I've always had solid service with the exception of a couple of star fishes. I'm just curious if there is a lack of Haitian chikas with the current crackdown? Without Haitians, it doesn't keep the local Dominicans honest in service or price. Could that be the issue? I suggest to newbies (not you poontang) to get a decent roster of girls and don't be afraid to rotate the cycle every time you go there. Your first trip should be no more than one week max, especially if you just plan on staying in Sosua.
You are onto something about the under 30 women crowd. I hate to be mean, but they are dumb as rocks and have no concept of rational thinking even if it is to their benefit. You'd think, that a foreigner who makes 10X their annual income would have them foaming at the mouth and at least pretend to give a damn and at least provide good service and try to make them happy but naaaaw. They figure there are plenty of suckers out there or they just don't give a damn.
Attitudes are better in Asia and Africa and I soon plan on spending my time/dollars there.
i wasn’t really getting rejected but I wasn’t climbing to spend 3000+ in general, I did have a few who stood on $100 which is an additional 50% of 4K so I definitely passed as 4K was the ceiling for damn well all guys who weren’t rookies. Artificial inflation of pussy in a saturated market for a fake body or cute face mediocre body was a no no that had me knowing I wasn’t coming back.
It’s inflation everywhere but Brazil, Mexico and Colombia isn’t such a stark contrast unless you go to a super tourist spot, so it’s a Sosua exploit idiots things. Casa Valeria and Sosua Inn likely increased their prices im guessing. Had the opportunity to see the new club opening next to chez Montreal and passed due to overall dissatisfaction. Shit had mess semi pessimistic in paradise my last few days. GDP matters but when you think of the price hike in other places while in Sosua, you find yourself on google, booking and Airbnb comparing prices of items and amenities and their former prices. I was cutting my teeth more times than I wanted or asking “is gratuity include in the bill? I don’t like my bills padded so don’t give me just a final number as tjje prices not making sense to me”
It’s local Haitians but the numbers are down. Like the girls who are always there are still there, but a fair amount are in Haiti or missing in action the entire time. I didn’t really see an influx of new chics like there was in march. I don’t even need to comment on the 19-21 ages lol you already know
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Sosua will be ok as it's been garbage for years but guys like yourselves keep going there for whores for whatever reason when you already know of places better.
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Correct on the haitains, there not abundant.with the border closures, gangs in haiti,makeing ease of travel in haiti it self dangerous And being targeted by DR cops,haitians are havieng a hard time,,You got that right things are going up globally,I found food cost was about the same as the USA albeit this is buying food at playjero, and not local colmodos or in bulk lets say Jumbos in POP, Now as a far as chica prices, them quoting 100 -200 USD is coookou, sure a slight increase but not what there asking, GFE ,Hmmm they or most just do short time make more $$ less work,,,,,Sure you can get GFE thats if you have a good trusted repeat chica or if you find a newbie or a recommended chica from one of your repeats, TElla chica net works can be good. As far as the high season, it remains to be seen,,,,Im from the NE part of the staes and ill try and do 30-60 days during the winter,,,go from vacay mode to local mode,meaning live like a local, go easy on the pussy, do other non hoe things,,,,carry on sirs !be safe !
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
I can stay a week in Sosua MAX without getting bored. A month for me would be overkill and Sosua is nothing but a small mediocre hoe-town. I'm extremely surprised that 3-4k prices were denied. Normally 3500 for me was more than enough, but maybe things have changed in the last 6 months. There are 3 facts about Sosua.
1. The quality is down
2. The GFE is pretty much nonexistent
3. Prices are increasing on everything (this may just be global inflation)
I'm not going to comment on service, because I believe that's always hit or miss. Personally, I've always had solid service with the exception of a couple of star fishes. I'm just curious if there is a lack of Haitian chikas with the current crackdown? Without Haitians, it doesn't keep the local Dominicans honest in service or price. Could that be the issue? I suggest to newbies (not you poontang) to get a decent roster of girls and don't be afraid to rotate the cycle every time you go there. Your first trip should be no more than one week max, especially if you just plan on staying in Sosua.
You are onto something about the under 30 women crowd. I hate to be mean, but they are dumb as rocks and have no concept of rational thinking even if it is to their benefit. You'd think, that a foreigner who makes 10X their annual income would have them foaming at the mouth and at least pretend to give a damn and at least provide good service and try to make them happy but naaaaw. They figure there are plenty of suckers out there or they just don't give a damn.
Attitudes are better in Asia and Africa and I soon plan on spending my time/dollars there.
i wasn’t really getting rejected but I wasn’t climbing to spend 3000+ in general, I did have a few who stood on $100 which is an additional 50% of 4K so I definitely passed as 4K was the ceiling for damn well all guys who weren’t rookies. Artificial inflation of pussy in a saturated market for a fake body or cute face mediocre body was a no no that had me knowing I wasn’t coming back.
It’s inflation everywhere but Brazil, Mexico and Colombia isn’t such a stark contrast unless you go to a super tourist spot, so it’s a Sosua exploit idiots things. Casa Valeria and Sosua Inn likely increased their prices im guessing. Had the opportunity to see the new club opening next to chez Montreal and passed due to overall dissatisfaction. Shit had mess semi pessimistic in paradise my last few days. GDP matters but when you think of the price hike in other places while in Sosua, you find yourself on google, booking and Airbnb comparing prices of items and amenities and their former prices. I was cutting my teeth more times than I wanted or asking “is gratuity include in the bill? I don’t like my bills padded so don’t give me just a final number as tjje prices not making sense to me”
It’s local Haitians but the numbers are down. Like the girls who are always there are still there, but a fair amount are in Haiti or missing in action the entire time. I didn’t really see an influx of new chics like there was in march. I don’t even need to comment on the 19-21 ages lol you already know
Now I really think your my guy Justin dude is like the Alan Greenspan of Pussy, Homie takes in account the price of Oil the price per liter of gasoline and taxes and gratuities.
When I told him What does the price of oil do with the price of pussy in Sosua he said it all matters, He tries to forecast the exchange rates in the countries he goes to.
Justin does update Expatistan.com and Numbeo.com Do you do that? I finally got it afterwhile It's hard to justify paying way more for lower quality and quantity.
I gotta know what did it for you to cross Jaco beach off the list? I know a broke ass expat who's there right now.
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Correct on the haitains, there not abundant.with the border closures, gangs in haiti,makeing ease of travel in haiti it self dangerous And being targeted by DR cops,haitians are havieng a hard time,,You got that right things are going up globally,I found food cost was about the same as the USA albeit this is buying food at playjero, and not local colmodos or in bulk lets say Jumbos in POP, Now as a far as chica prices, them quoting 100 -200 USD is coookou, sure a slight increase but not what there asking, GFE ,Hmmm they or most just do short time make more $$ less work,,,,,Sure you can get GFE thats if you have a good trusted repeat chica or if you find a newbie or a recommended chica from one of your repeats, TElla chica net works can be good. As far as the high season, it remains to be seen,,,,Im from the NE part of the staes and ill try and do 30-60 days during the winter,,,go from vacay mode to local mode,meaning live like a local, go easy on the pussy, do other non hoe things,,,,carry on sirs !be safe !
Considering what's going on in your state is everything alright? Hopefully no one you know got hurt?
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Can anyone give me some advice on where to go instead? Like, I went to Sosua twice now. I want to go back to the DR next month before high season gets too high priced, but my god Sosua was boring AF. Even talking to the guys is boring AF here. Like I go to the clubs here and no one has game everyone sitting around on their phone wtf. I rather go to Tijuana for partying, but I definitely felt more comfortable on the streets in Sosua and it was easier to get weed. So my question is, where 1) it's really chill and less aggressive than Sosua. the people there are crazy ngl. 2) chill that has many hotels that are extremely guest friendly so I can just Tinder 3) friendly towards people that speak broken Spanish 4) safe . I don't want to give up on the DR because the flights are easy. Cabarete? Santiago? Terrenas? Puerto Plata??
But yea, I agree. Seems like I started going to Sosua 10 years late. Feels bad.
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Try Santo Domingo
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
I can stay a week in Sosua MAX without getting bored. A month for me would be overkill and Sosua is nothing but a small mediocre hoe-town. I'm extremely surprised that 3-4k prices were denied. Normally 3500 for me was more than enough, but maybe things have changed in the last 6 months. There are 3 facts about Sosua.
1. The quality is down
2. The GFE is pretty much nonexistent
3. Prices are increasing on everything (this may just be global inflation)
I'm not going to comment on service, because I believe that's always hit or miss. Personally, I've always had solid service with the exception of a couple of star fishes. I'm just curious if there is a lack of Haitian chikas with the current crackdown? Without Haitians, it doesn't keep the local Dominicans honest in service or price. Could that be the issue? I suggest to newbies (not you poontang) to get a decent roster of girls and don't be afraid to rotate the cycle every time you go there. Your first trip should be no more than one week max, especially if you just plan on staying in Sosua.
You are onto something about the under 30 women crowd. I hate to be mean, but they are dumb as rocks and have no concept of rational thinking even if it is to their benefit. You'd think, that a foreigner who makes 10X their annual income would have them foaming at the mouth and at least pretend to give a damn and at least provide good service and try to make them happy but naaaaw. They figure there are plenty of suckers out there or they just don't give a damn.
Attitudes are better in Asia and Africa and I soon plan on spending my time/dollars there.
i wasn’t really getting rejected but I wasn’t climbing to spend 3000+ in general, I did have a few who stood on $100 which is an additional 50% of 4K so I definitely passed as 4K was the ceiling for damn well all guys who weren’t rookies. Artificial inflation of pussy in a saturated market for a fake body or cute face mediocre body was a no no that had me knowing I wasn’t coming back.
It’s inflation everywhere but Brazil, Mexico and Colombia isn’t such a stark contrast unless you go to a super tourist spot, so it’s a Sosua exploit idiots things. Casa Valeria and Sosua Inn likely increased their prices im guessing. Had the opportunity to see the new club opening next to chez Montreal and passed due to overall dissatisfaction. Shit had mess semi pessimistic in paradise my last few days. GDP matters but when you think of the price hike in other places while in Sosua, you find yourself on google, booking and Airbnb comparing prices of items and amenities and their former prices. I was cutting my teeth more times than I wanted or asking “is gratuity include in the bill? I don’t like my bills padded so don’t give me just a final number as tjje prices not making sense to me”
It’s local Haitians but the numbers are down. Like the girls who are always there are still there, but a fair amount are in Haiti or missing in action the entire time. I didn’t really see an influx of new chics like there was in march. I don’t even need to comment on the 19-21 ages lol you already know
Now I really think your my guy Justin dude is like the Alan Greenspan of Pussy, Homie takes in account the price of Oil the price per liter of gasoline and taxes and gratuities.
When I told him What does the price of oil do with the price of pussy in Sosua he said it all matters, He tries to forecast the exchange rates in the countries he goes to.
Justin does update Expatistan.com and Numbeo.com Do you do that? I finally got it afterwhile It's hard to justify paying way more for lower quality and quantity.
I gotta know what did it for you to cross Jaco beach off the list? I know a broke ass expat who's there right now.
Im not Justin, but I like the way he thinks. Life’s about numbers ultimately, I used GDP as a tool and indicator not for causality. Don’t know any of those sites, but now considering it. Cost of living is why I’m not going back to Costa Rica. Cool but not worth the price.
Can anyone give me some advice on where to go instead? Like, I went to Sosua twice now. I want to go back to the DR next month before high season gets too high priced, but my god Sosua was boring AF. Even talking to the guys is boring AF here. Like I go to the clubs here and no one has game everyone sitting around on their phone wtf. I rather go to Tijuana for partying, but I definitely felt more comfortable on the streets in Sosua and it was easier to get weed. So my question is, where 1) it's really chill and less aggressive than Sosua. the people there are crazy ngl. 2) chill that has many hotels that are extremely guest friendly so I can just Tinder 3) friendly towards people that speak broken Spanish 4) safe . I don't want to give up on the DR because the flights are easy. Cabarete? Santiago? Terrenas? Puerto Plata??
But yea, I agree. Seems like I started going to Sosua 10 years late. Feels bad.
If you insist on DR Cabarete and Puerto Plata aren’t bad, not easy to navigate but better stores and restaurants. You won’t keep seeing the same people over and over also. Santiago is big, so be prepared for time consuming traffic and everything 15-30 minutes away from you. Las terranas is Cabarete but more Europeans a richer city in Samana that lacks a beach but has a boardwalk, and is 3-6hrs away. I’d prefer Medellin/Bogota/Tijuana/Rio to DR now if flight prices were the same
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Look, I'm not expert, but everything is about getting as close to local price as possible, dealing with the best-looking girls with best service and readily available at my calling. From my understanding Thailand, Philippines, and many African countries fit that bill if you're going strictly on price or lodging, flight, all in costs.
What bothers me about Thailand and Africa is the time to get to those countries. Time is money (some would say more valuable), and when you're literally spending 1 day to get there and 1 day to get accustomed to it, is it really worth it? In my eyes, you gotta stay weeks and frankly lots of people don't have that amount of time, unless you're retired.
Sosua is great because, assuming you land in pop, everything is spoon-fed for you in a flash. The culture caters and welcomes brothers, everything is walking distance, and tail is there 24-7, even if the quality is suspect with a little work, you'll find someone. All you need to find is 2 or 3 that YOU find attractive, and you'll be OK. Yes, most reports are disappointed but there's always that line "I still had a good time."
With that being said, it's always good to branch off so things don't get stale or slow down the number of times you go. Every 100 days satisfies my cravings, but some brothers tend to kill the golden goose and spend too much time there or they go too soon. Let that tension build!!
I want to put everything in perspective here. Sosua is still better than pretty much any place in USA if you want easy access to tail. Remember that during the next time you're on a date and shell out 85$ for a peck on the cheek at the end of the night.
Pro tip- Use the strength of the American dollar to your favor and always pay with the currency of the country you're going!!!
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I just finished spending nearly a month in Sosua. I did enjoy my time, but sosua has been spiraling downward since PPP loans and Covid-19. Prices continue to increase while quality decreases. 3-4K request are denied and you can still negotiate downwards, however that may be a reduction in quality or enthusiasm from the chicas. Many are time wasters and boring outside of smashing because of their personality not developed much(smartphones reduce attention span, you can see it in the different age brackets) so no actual high level conversations unless she’s 30+. The 19-21 year olds aren’t dumb, logic and critical thinking isn’t there unfortunately, or their priorities are thrown off.
I can stay a week in Sosua MAX without getting bored. A month for me would be overkill and Sosua is nothing but a small mediocre hoe-town. I'm extremely surprised that 3-4k prices were denied. Normally 3500 for me was more than enough, but maybe things have changed in the last 6 months. There are 3 facts about Sosua.
1. The quality is down
2. The GFE is pretty much nonexistent
3. Prices are increasing on everything (this may just be global inflation)
I'm not going to comment on service, because I believe that's always hit or miss. Personally, I've always had solid service with the exception of a couple of star fishes. I'm just curious if there is a lack of Haitian chikas with the current crackdown? Without Haitians, it doesn't keep the local Dominicans honest in service or price. Could that be the issue? I suggest to newbies (not you poontang) to get a decent roster of girls and don't be afraid to rotate the cycle every time you go there. Your first trip should be no more than one week max, especially if you just plan on staying in Sosua.
You are onto something about the under 30 women crowd. I hate to be mean, but they are dumb as rocks and have no concept of rational thinking even if it is to their benefit. You'd think, that a foreigner who makes 10X their annual income would have them foaming at the mouth and at least pretend to give a damn and at least provide good service and try to make them happy but naaaaw. They figure there are plenty of suckers out there or they just don't give a damn.
Attitudes are better in Asia and Africa and I soon plan on spending my time/dollars there.
i wasn’t really getting rejected but I wasn’t climbing to spend 3000+ in general, I did have a few who stood on $100 which is an additional 50% of 4K so I definitely passed as 4K was the ceiling for damn well all guys who weren’t rookies. Artificial inflation of pussy in a saturated market for a fake body or cute face mediocre body was a no no that had me knowing I wasn’t coming back.
It’s inflation everywhere but Brazil, Mexico and Colombia isn’t such a stark contrast unless you go to a super tourist spot, so it’s a Sosua exploit idiots things. Casa Valeria and Sosua Inn likely increased their prices im guessing. Had the opportunity to see the new club opening next to chez Montreal and passed due to overall dissatisfaction. Shit had mess semi pessimistic in paradise my last few days. GDP matters but when you think of the price hike in other places while in Sosua, you find yourself on google, booking and Airbnb comparing prices of items and amenities and their former prices. I was cutting my teeth more times than I wanted or asking “is gratuity include in the bill? I don’t like my bills padded so don’t give me just a final number as tjje prices not making sense to me”
It’s local Haitians but the numbers are down. Like the girls who are always there are still there, but a fair amount are in Haiti or missing in action the entire time. I didn’t really see an influx of new chics like there was in march. I don’t even need to comment on the 19-21 ages lol you already know
Now I really think your my guy Justin dude is like the Alan Greenspan of Pussy, Homie takes in account the price of Oil the price per liter of gasoline and taxes and gratuities.
When I told him What does the price of oil do with the price of pussy in Sosua he said it all matters, He tries to forecast the exchange rates in the countries he goes to.
Justin does update Expatistan.com and Numbeo.com Do you do that? I finally got it afterwhile It's hard to justify paying way more for lower quality and quantity.
I gotta know what did it for you to cross Jaco beach off the list? I know a broke ass expat who's there right now.
Im not Justin, but I like the way he thinks. Life’s about numbers ultimately, I used GDP as a tool and indicator not for causality. Don’t know any of those sites, but now considering it. Cost of living is why I’m not going back to Costa Rica. Cool but not worth the price.
Can anyone give me some advice on where to go instead? Like, I went to Sosua twice now. I want to go back to the DR next month before high season gets too high priced, but my god Sosua was boring AF. Even talking to the guys is boring AF here. Like I go to the clubs here and no one has game everyone sitting around on their phone wtf. I rather go to Tijuana for partying, but I definitely felt more comfortable on the streets in Sosua and it was easier to get weed. So my question is, where 1) it's really chill and less aggressive than Sosua. the people there are crazy ngl. 2) chill that has many hotels that are extremely guest friendly so I can just Tinder 3) friendly towards people that speak broken Spanish 4) safe . I don't want to give up on the DR because the flights are easy. Cabarete? Santiago? Terrenas? Puerto Plata??
But yea, I agree. Seems like I started going to Sosua 10 years late. Feels bad.
If you insist on DR Cabarete and Puerto Plata aren’t bad, not easy to navigate but better stores and restaurants. You won’t keep seeing the same people over and over also. Santiago is big, so be prepared for time consuming traffic and everything 15-30 minutes away from you. Las terranas is Cabarete but more Europeans a richer city in Samana that lacks a beach but has a boardwalk, and is 3-6hrs away. I’d prefer Medellin/Bogota/Tijuana/Rio to DR now if flight prices were the same
GDP is an excellent starting indicator from my experience I'd say that a country needs over 3 million people and or a GDP of around 100 million to be comfortable.
Less than 3 million and the country is too small to have hoes hoe anonomously way less than 100 million unless you a value pioneer monger willing to criss cross the earth for cut rate cooch living in cold water hotel rooms and eating local actually mongering in say Laos is more expensive than mongering in Thailand overall.
I used to laugh at my buddy Just for devoting all of that time analyzing minute details and strategies for getting mas barrato box but then again I got 1500 posts on a whore board so who's the obsessed one here?
Frankly you should put thought into where you take your vacations for example you could hear that you can get 10 dollar TLN's in Madegascar but if you factor in the flight costs staying in acceptable western style accomodations and eating western style imported food now the math of paying that 10 goes up vs. hitting Sosua even if you pay 4k per smash.
I could go into super detail but for starters Sosua is a special case since girls come their to hustle so it's different than a SD semi pro who's trying to supplement her income.
In situations like that it's important to know what she's hoeing for. Usually a semi with a legimate job is hoeing because she got into a money jam because she prioritized her wants and needs a monger to pay for her needs meaning she needs help on her rent because she bought a new phone or something It's important to know generally what things cost and the easiest way to ballpark that is to go to Expatistan.com
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/orlando/santiago-de-los-caballeros?
or Numbeo.comhttps://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=Dominican+Republic&city1=Orlando%2C+FL&city2=Santiago+de+los+Caballeros&tracking=getDispatchComparison
Both are open source cost of living platforms that are updated by the public. I stongly encourage you to contribute to the price list.
basically what Justin is doing is trying to aggregate the Big Mac index https://www.economist.com/big-mac-index
But instead of using a Big Mac he's using pussy basically he's calculating the cost of pussy in certain areas based on how much it costs to get from Florida to wherever the pussy is cheapest and easiest to obtain.
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Correct on the haitains, there not abundant.with the border closures, gangs in haiti,makeing ease of travel in haiti it self dangerous And being targeted by DR cops,haitians are havieng a hard time,,You got that right things are going up globally,I found food cost was about the same as the USA albeit this is buying food at playjero, and not local colmodos or in bulk lets say Jumbos in POP, Now as a far as chica prices, them quoting 100 -200 USD is coookou, sure a slight increase but not what there asking, GFE ,Hmmm they or most just do short time make more $$ less work,,,,,Sure you can get GFE thats if you have a good trusted repeat chica or if you find a newbie or a recommended chica from one of your repeats, TElla chica net works can be good. As far as the high season, it remains to be seen,,,,Im from the NE part of the staes and ill try and do 30-60 days during the winter,,,go from vacay mode to local mode,meaning live like a local, go easy on the pussy, do other non hoe things,,,,carry on sirs !be safe !
Considering what's going on in your state is everything alright? Hopefully no one you know got hurt?
Sir its insane wht happen i Lewiston Me, its just a hick town with under 10000 residents, be safe !
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There are many factors that come into play when it comes to P4P prices since essentially it costs a woman nothing to sell snatch it's basically all profit she can easily do a fire sale or raise prices easily based on demand or lack there of.
For example there's the sunk costs of accomodations food and transport that usually the majority of a travelers budget most mongers fail to take this into account and it's the main reason why despite the The Su is Dead B talk it will never die because the price of the flight is usually cheap.
But Justin takes into account the weather rainy season leads to less demand especially when it's actually raining so less competition; Less demand, lower prices.
He also said that Meddy hoes beg for dates more meaning they ask for more repeats over his 6 to 8 week trips on one hand even Su vets say I deal with my regulars so chica quality doesn't matter because I f--k my carefully vetted and trusted regulars.
The downside is that sounds more like a girlfriend who cheats or sugar daddy situation when the idea is usually to nosh on new nookie. But being johnny on the spot with say a full fridge grants you goodwill and leverage. So when a regular requests a date to buy food it would help to know that to feed a family of 4 for 2 weeks in Medellin is about 40 dollars strata 3 or 4 (local middle class areas) Light bill is around 100K or 25 bucks and rent for a 4 bedroom is about 266.
Just says that generally Su hoes demand more propinas after the date and everyone has seen inexperienced mongers with a demon in the villa starting to wreck shop after she demands a higher price.
Granted there's many ways to avoid this but if you take her to a smash pad or get her out of the room by buying breakfast you have to factor that into the cost of P4P in Sosua.
After adding cost of Propinas ( should you pay them) and the flight accomodations, food transport and etc. divided by the hour is the actual pussy price.
Once you make that calculation now he can decide if this or that place is "worth it".
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Correct on the haitains, there not abundant.with the border closures, gangs in haiti,makeing ease of travel in haiti it self dangerous And being targeted by DR cops,haitians are havieng a hard time,,You got that right things are going up globally,I found food cost was about the same as the USA albeit this is buying food at playjero, and not local colmodos or in bulk lets say Jumbos in POP, Now as a far as chica prices, them quoting 100 -200 USD is coookou, sure a slight increase but not what there asking, GFE ,Hmmm they or most just do short time make more $$ less work,,,,,Sure you can get GFE thats if you have a good trusted repeat chica or if you find a newbie or a recommended chica from one of your repeats, TElla chica net works can be good. As far as the high season, it remains to be seen,,,,Im from the NE part of the staes and ill try and do 30-60 days during the winter,,,go from vacay mode to local mode,meaning live like a local, go easy on the pussy, do other non hoe things,,,,carry on sirs !be safe !
Considering what's going on in your state is everything alright? Hopefully no one you know got hurt?
Sir its insane wht happen i Lewiston Me, its just a hick town with under 10000 residents, be safe !
Yeah that's f--ked up it's crazy the world we live in today where you could be shot going bowling.
I think I had a solider from Maine I'll give him a call. I defenitely had a solider from Berlin New Hampshire.
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Look, I'm not expert, but everything is about getting as close to local price as possible, dealing with the best-looking girls with best service and readily available at my calling. From my understanding Thailand, Philippines, and many African countries fit that bill if you're going strictly on price or lodging, flight, all in costs.
What bothers me about Thailand and Africa is the time to get to those countries. Time is money (some would say more valuable), and when you're literally spending 1 day to get there and 1 day to get accustomed to it, is it really worth it? In my eyes, you gotta stay weeks and frankly lots of people don't have that amount of time, unless you're retired.
Sosua is great because, assuming you land in pop, everything is spoon-fed for you in a flash. The culture caters and welcomes brothers, everything is walking distance, and tail is there 24-7, even if the quality is suspect with a little work, you'll find someone. All you need to find is 2 or 3 that YOU find attractive, and you'll be OK. Yes, most reports are disappointed but there's always that line "I still had a good time."
With that being said, it's always good to branch off so things don't get stale or slow down the number of times you go. Every 100 days satisfies my cravings, but some brothers tend to kill the golden goose and spend too much time there or they go too soon. Let that tension build!!
I want to put everything in perspective here. Sosua is still better than pretty much any place in USA if you want easy access to tail. Remember that during the next time you're on a date and shell out 85$ for a peck on the cheek at the end of the night.
Pro tip- Use the strength of the American dollar to your favor and always pay with the currency of the country you're going!!!
The main allure of Sosua is it's proximity to the states and your proximitity to the action. You can literally point n Click to Sosua then Point n click to a bitch you met in Bailee's.
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All facts ☝🏾
Also as a married man with unlimited buns, the ever increasing costs compounded with zero nightlife killed it for me. I’m not there to just fucc, I’m there to have fun.
It’s like the powers that be are further turning it into what they didn’t want whilst generating less revenue.
All the closures did was decrease overall town funds, girls still gonna sell ass
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All facts ☝🏾
Also as a married man with unlimited buns, the ever increasing costs compounded with zero nightlife killed it for me. I’m not there to just fucc, I’m there to have fun.
It’s like the powers that be are further turning it into what they didn’t want whilst generating less revenue.
All the closures did was decrease overall town funds, girls still gonna sell ass
That's another thing we have to assume that Sosua is responding to market forces. It has a great swimmable beach yet few water sports because it's not prioritized. You want to go surfing go to Caberete.
You want to smash a ton of hoes go to Sosua.
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I forgot to add why smaller poorer countries are more expensive. They're more expensive because they lack a local middle class to buy shit like western style food and hotel rooms so that means that there's usually on mid range options it's either the local equivalent of Motel 6 or the local eqivalent of the Waldorf Astoria where literally world leaders stay when they visit.
So you wnt either a country with a middle class/ rich and or massive tourism so that there's competition for the demand.
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Free Game on how to bag semi and non pros.
Use social media not the dating apps or at least not Tinder. One way Just finds fresh bitches is he looks at economical grocery store chains, malls, clothing stores, universities and local night clubs and he sees choice women that follow or friend those businesses then friend or follow them in a burner accounts. After awhile the algorithm will suggest women to you friend follow and DM them. If he's not sure they're hoes he'll just say he's comming to town on a work project and he's looking to hire someone on a part time basis or needs a friend to show him around.
Now he has a network of locals that he can deal with when on the ground that with knowledge of what things cost and an offer to pay to be "shown around". is usually all that's needed 9 times out of 10 It's like a chick in the states getting "flewed out" she knows what time it is and usually makes a deal to smash right there.
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For example there's the sunk costs of accomodations food and transport that usually the majority of a travelers budget most mongers fail to take this into account and it's the main reason why despite the The Su is Dead B talk it will never die because the price of the flight is usually cheap.
After adding cost of Propinas ( should you pay them) and the flight accomodations, food transport and etc. divided by the hour is the :)actual pussy price.
Once you make that calculation now he can decide if this or that place is "worth it".
I can get cheaper flights but that’s an estimate. Miami to POP is north of 550$ currently and Medellin is 180-230.
Colombia has cheaper flights and cheaper accommodations with better looking women, it just lacks a beach because when you go to the beaches you run across inflated prices. Relatively wise DR is expensive to trick. I’d pay more to go to Rio at 600$ than 550 to POP because Rio > Sosua if imma spend 50-80$. A 40-125reis ($10-25) VM broad might look better than a $3000DOP chick depending on the time of day you out there.
Same with Colombian message parlors and the prices being set. The math to justify DR is bad right now
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All facts ☝🏾
Also as a married man with unlimited buns, the ever increasing costs compounded with zero nightlife killed it for me. I’m not there to just fucc, I’m there to have fun.
It’s like the powers that be are further turning it into what they didn’t want whilst generating less revenue.
All the closures did was decrease overall town funds, girls still gonna sell ass
Good point,town funds, they kinda shot themselves in the foot with the club and discos closures and having enclosed glass and other bs, they should have let Pedro cilante have more bars resteraunts clubs, now yah got a Va medical office and three chinese junk shops,, talk about killing of nite life and yes tourist or at least folks that like to party, never mind the hoes !
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For example there's the sunk costs of accomodations food and transport that usually the majority of a travelers budget most mongers fail to take this into account and it's the main reason why despite the The Su is Dead B talk it will never die because the price of the flight is usually cheap.
After adding cost of Propinas ( should you pay them) and the flight accomodations, food transport and etc. divided by the hour is the :)actual pussy price.
Once you make that calculation now he can decide if this or that place is "worth it".
I can get cheaper flights but that’s an estimate. Miami to POP is north of 550$ currently and Medellin is 180-230.
Colombia has cheaper flights and cheaper accommodations with better looking women, it just lacks a beach because when you go to the beaches you run across inflated prices. Relatively wise DR is expensive to trick. I’d pay more to go to Rio at 600$ than 550 to POP because Rio > Sosua if imma spend 50-80$. A 40-125reis ($10-25) VM broad might look better than a $3000DOP chick depending on the time of day you out there.
Same with Colombian message parlors and the prices being set. The math to justify DR is bad right now
You're on the right track you have to calculate total costs meaning flight, food accomodation into consideration.
Didn't know you could get 10 to 25 buck smashes in Rio. what's VM?
And as far as beach it depends. Again Colombia as a whole doesn't give a f--k about Tourism. they could clean Barranquilla's beach but I guess they desingnated Cartagena to be the Tourism spot.
Tayrona beach is the best beach in Colombia but you'd have to import. There's some action in Santa Marta but no one I know deems it worth it to go up there.
There's Beaches in Buenaventura and Tomaco but again no hoe delevopment like the in DR.
That's another subject how easy is it to pick up non pros or semi pros in Brazil or spots that you've been to?
Again we can criticize the DR all we want but there's no place there's a beach where box is not available.
Granted poor women exist everywhere but only the most expeirenced well traveled veteran mongers are able to indentify and develop a non pro into smashing for her rations.
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VM is a redlight district on par with Botero or SantaFe in quality/price, but unfortunately it’s more dirty. Like the others it’s essentially 24/7 action but I’d say it’s dead Sundays.
The other nightlife women
should cost you 40$ and up so it’s comparable to Sosua but I’d say you get better quality. Be it Mab’s, 4x4, Dolce Vita, etc
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VM is a redlight district on par with Botero or SantaFe in quality/price, but unfortunately it’s more dirty. Like the others it’s essentially 24/7 action but I’d say it’s dead Sundays.
The other nightlife women
should cost you 40$ and up so it’s comparable to Sosua but I’d say you get better quality. Be it Mab’s, 4x4, Dolce Vita, etc
So the prices are roughly similar to Colombia. If dudes are paying 3500 to 4000 DOP that's double what a reasonable rate in Colombia is and the flight is a fraction of going to the Su???
Going back to Brazil we can make a compariasion on food costs and accomodation. I can say in Cali it's very easy get an apartment for 300 unfurnished and say 425 furnished.
Fast food meals are in the range of 4 to 5 bucks an expensive meal is around 30 to 35 bucks and I never paid more than 5 bucks for an Uber.
How does Rio compare pricewise?
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VM is a redlight district on par with Botero or SantaFe in quality/price, but unfortunately it’s more dirty. Like the others it’s essentially 24/7 action but I’d say it’s dead Sundays.
The other nightlife women
should cost you 40$ and up so it’s comparable to Sosua but I’d say you get better quality. Be it Mab’s, 4x4, Dolce Vita, etc
So the prices are roughly similar to Colombia. If dudes are paying 3500 to 4000 DOP that's double what a reasonable rate in Colombia is and the flight is a fraction of going to the Su???
Going back to Brazil we can make a compariasion on food costs and accomodation. I can say in Cali it's very easy get an apartment for 300 unfurnished and say 425 furnished.
Fast food meals are in the range of 4 to 5 bucks an expensive meal is around 30 to 35 bucks and I never paid more than 5 bucks for an Uber.
How does Rio compare pricewise?
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Brazil&city1=Rio+de+Janeiro&country2=Dominican+Republic&city2=Sosua
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Colombia&country2=Brazil&city1=Cali&city2=Rio+de+Janeiro
Cali > Río > DR/Sosua in terms of prices. Rio food isn’t great, Colombia and DR has the edge in taste. Accommodations are somewhat comparable.I can sacrifice some comforts for quality for Rio.
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I haven't been to Rio but the prices in Cali are roughly accurate.
Frankly for the expeirenced monger who doesn't need point n Click Cali is the biggest bang for the buck in a big city in the western hemisphere.
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I haven't been to Rio but the prices in Cali are roughly accurate.
Frankly for the expeirenced monger who doesn't need point n Click Cali is the biggest bang for the buck in a big city in the western hemisphere.
how would you compare it to Cartagena?
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I haven't been to Rio but the prices in Cali are roughly accurate.
Frankly for the expeirenced monger who doesn't need point n Click Cali is the biggest bang for the buck in a big city in the western hemisphere.
how would you compare it to Cartagena?
cartagena is defenitely more expensive than Cali. I would say that basically the prices are similar to Sosua with a slightly worse beach and more crime waaaaay more crime.
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Caretegenia has better quality women, day time is terrible, beaches are packed with women but the heat and lack of shade makes them unbearable, food is average, prices are comparable to DR. We heard that crime was heavy but never experienced any issues at all. Cartegenia is for sure worth a visit.
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Caretegenia has better quality women, day time is terrible, beaches are packed with women but the heat and lack of shade makes them unbearable, food is average, prices are comparable to DR. We heard that crime was heavy but never experienced any issues at all. Cartegenia is for sure worth a visit.
100% spot on. There is more to do too than just women and if you actually want a real vacation. Not a great place to relax because of the heat and constant badgering by the vendors. However, those women are absolutely top notch, but they really don't come out until later. Should be able to snatch something at 300k even if you don't speak Spanish. There is SOME beach game, but it's limited and the action is always late night. I got to carty twice for every time I go to the Su. Different vibes for both. Good to mix it up.
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Sosua is good for 4-5 days at the minimum. I had a great experience my last trip in June 2023. Got an airbnb with two friends, we hit up our driver from the first trip and he steered us in the right direction when it came to the women and hooked us up with whatever we needed. He showed us pics of who was available and we picked the best of the bunch and he had them dropped off for about $70+ tip ( they always ask for tip). We had morning session, afternoon delight, and occasionally overnight if the vibe was right. We hit up baileys a few times grabbed some numbers and food and back to the airbnb for another session. My advice is when you find a quality girl stay in contact with them for the next trip. We had two girls from our first trip come up from Santiago to spend the night, they each brought a friend and it turned into a fun night. We partied with them in the pool, played flip cup and took shots. Well worth the $150. Shots are a must with some of these girls, it can make the difference between having a robotic experience or GFE.
I know some of yall going to say I paid to much, and you might be right, but I had some solid quality picks this trip and only felt 3 out of 10 were not worth the money. One of those girls didnt look like her pics at all, for some reason i didnt send her back and just went with it, But as hard and deep as I pounded her i couldnt finish. She ended up calling her friend that had just finished with my boy for back up. Her friend was a beautiful girl with green/hazel eyes and a tight curvy body. She jumped in right away and turned a bad experience into a threesome. Gave her friend $40 and she was on her way.
I am planning my next trip to Medellin in May 2024. Heard good things.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
More gay guys have to be visiting. It went from the gays hiding down in the shadows past jolly rogers and sometimes near Anton Reef Casino, to gay guys standing infront of rumbas and by the food stand across the street sometimes even dancing.
Not sure who’s picking them, but the more I visit, the more gays that pops up regularly and be more open. If they made a gay side I wouldn’t mind, as other countries with P4P and RLDs tend to have segregated areas, and not intermixed a majority of the time. Rio, Bogota, Pattaya and a few other places, have specific areas for the gay/trans in the area even if it’s nearby, so you shouldn’t be confused most of the time.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Hmm. This development is extraordinarily problematic and even dangerous for a variety of reasons. 🧐
Based on other reports that I’ve heard, these gay dudes (bisexual switch-hitters if you will), aren’t limiting their sexual activities to just trans chicas. They’re also messing with the straight chicas. And to chicas who don’t have the education or knowledge to know to avoid this type, they pose an elevated health risk to them and other mongers.
It’s a FACT that the homosexual population is a high risk health group, and if more and more of these dudes are popping up in the Su as the existing chica pool is already shrinking, the waters are gonna get muddy really fast.
I’m not sure if anyone has seen what I’ve seen, but I’ve seen and I’m aware of more chicas popping up with STD’s. This was hardly ever the [noticeable] case in the past, so it’s something to pay attention to. Strap up fellas.
In another post, I mentioned that mongering in general tends to also attract a small subset of dudes who were simply undesirable in the civilian non-pro world for certain reasons. Those reasons include, but are not limited to abusers, ex-cons, unconvicted rapists, pedohpiles, and down low gay men. More and more of these dudes are getting into the Sosua pool due to close close proximity to the states and cheap flight costs.
If the gay monger uptick in Sosua continues, I’m either gonna stick to strictly imports or close the book on Sosua altogether.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
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LOL I figured it was because of the direct JetBlue NYC flights. All those Yankee and Giant fans.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
Lol! Ain’t no direct flights from Atlanta to the Su, but I’m sure those gay mf’ers are still finding their way down there along with the down low ex-jail birds out of NYC. 😆
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
I’ve spent enough time in ATL to know that the talent pool in ATL ain’t nothing but wigs, weaves, and sack 💰 chasers who want dudes to pay their rent and car note to smash.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
Well well well waterboy ... the cat got out of the bag !!!!
so you are confessing in that post
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/15/84/94/53/screen15.jpg)
That you are a part of that group
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f76/15/84/94/53/screen16.jpg)
We already knew you were some kind of weirdo but now we have the confirmation ... ::)
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Someone tell me where in the country is more popping today at 2 in the afternoon than in Atlanta. The SEC championship is today in Atlanta; Travis Scott is in concert tonight. That is Atlanta in a nutshell. Day shift strip clubs are on fire 🔥 by three today. Where is that happening anywhere in the country? I like to be around hot chicks, not 4 and 5's - I throw up hot Chicks on here all the time. I wish a dude trying to challenge me would put up a hot chick, but they never do - always an excuse. Instead of circling in red ink, put up a hot chick in the forum. You have never put up a chick, which makes me question due you bang hot chicks. When you can never show me, it raises many questions for me. You did say you thought a hot club in Canada with male servers was fun - not for me. You are speaking of circling red ink. That was a red flag to me. Sorry, I like to be around bad chicks, not men waitpersons. Come on down to ATL today. You are a real man; this is where you want to be.
Tell the board what you are doing this afternoon; I will be at the strip club. Now, what about you? Now, do not get quiet and talk about me. Are you a real dude? Tell us what's popping today and put up a picture.
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
Let me get this straight, it's my money. I want hot chicks serving me not dudes. Where do you get I lack confidence for not wanting dudes serving me? I give you live updates on whats popping right now.
I told you ATL is popping right now with talent. A lot of Cubans have moved to the A. I think I will take this Cuban chick down before I hit Travis Scott. Also, it's free as if you speak the language, have a personality and about your lifestyle you pulling all day everyday. I must be doing something right. I am never afraid of the bright lights. Now what about you impress me as you got a lot to say - do not get quiet now as talk is cheap. Put up.
Shit rocking right now down here! I am not being served by lumberjack dudes, but hot chicks right now! What's your all environment like right now?
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You show them @285West telling these lame Sosua dudes what they need to hear.
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
Let me get this straight, it's my money. I want hot chicks serving me not dudes. Where do you get I lack confidence for not wanting dudes serving me? I give you live updates on whats popping right now.
I told you ATL is popping right now with talent. A lot of Cubans have moved to the A. I think I will take this Cuban chick down before I hit Travis Scott. Also, it's free as if you speak the language, have a personality and about your lifestyle you pulling all day everyday. I must be doing something right. I am never afraid of the bright lights. Now what about you impress me as you got a lot to say - do not get quiet now as talk is cheap. Put up.
Shit rocking right now down here! I am not being served by lumberjack dudes, but hot chicks right now! What's your all environment like right now?
Nice pic ... looks like she's in your hotel room I see ::)
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You show them @285West telling these lame Sosua dudes what they need to hear.
Please clean that brown stuff on your nose ::)
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Who gives a shit about A , NOT ME!!
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Who gives a shit about A , NOT ME!!
I second that ;D
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Klown shit! If you do not give a f--k, why do you read the posts and then take the time to respond? You give a f--k because you answered. Grown-ass men are lying to themselves in front of everyone. I do not respond or read the posts and write something when I do not give a f--k.
You do give a f--k because you want the whole board to know how you feel.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
was in ATL last week for Travis Scott, the amount of women throwing me play was nuts!
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
was in ATL last week for Travis Scott, the amount of women throwing me play was nuts!
impregnate one of them.
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
was in ATL last week for Travis Scott, the amount of women throwing me play was nuts!
All they wanted from you was free drinks and hookah. That’s about it, bro. I’m sorry. 😆
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
Let me get this straight, it's my money. I want hot chicks serving me not dudes. Where do you get I lack confidence for not wanting dudes serving me? I give you live updates on whats popping right now.
I told you ATL is popping right now with talent. A lot of Cubans have moved to the A. I think I will take this Cuban chick down before I hit Travis Scott. Also, it's free as if you speak the language, have a personality and about your lifestyle you pulling all day everyday. I must be doing something right. I am never afraid of the bright lights. Now what about you impress me as you got a lot to say - do not get quiet now as talk is cheap. Put up.
Shit rocking right now down here! I am not being served by lumberjack dudes, but hot chicks right now! What's your all environment like right now?
285,
That chick is weak (if that’s even a real chick, cuz this is Atlanta we’re talking about, lol). How’re you posting tranny-body chicks and swearing they’re hot? 🥴😆
She got a flat ass and pancake breasts. There’s barely any substantial breast tissue rising up off that rib cage from the side view. Looks like a tranny dude on hormones TRYING to grow tits. Pause. 🥴✋🏽
She also has a long, strong nose, and a weak chin. Bro, take that pic down. You in here posting trannies from Atlanta? TF?
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
was in ATL last week for Travis Scott, the amount of women throwing me play was nuts!
impregnate one of them.
almost did with one of the dancers
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
Let me get this straight, it's my money. I want hot chicks serving me not dudes. Where do you get I lack confidence for not wanting dudes serving me? I give you live updates on whats popping right now.
I told you ATL is popping right now with talent. A lot of Cubans have moved to the A. I think I will take this Cuban chick down before I hit Travis Scott. Also, it's free as if you speak the language, have a personality and about your lifestyle you pulling all day everyday. I must be doing something right. I am never afraid of the bright lights. Now what about you impress me as you got a lot to say - do not get quiet now as talk is cheap. Put up.
Shit rocking right now down here! I am not being served by lumberjack dudes, but hot chicks right now! What's your all environment like right now?
285,
That chick is weak (if that’s even a real chick, cuz this is Atlanta we’re talking about, lol). How’re you posting tranny-body chicks and swearing they’re hot? 🥴😆
She got a flat ass and pancake breasts. There’s barely any substantial breast tissue rising up off that rib cage from the side view. Looks like a tranny dude on hormones TRYING to grow tits. Pause. 🥴✋🏽
She also has a long, strong nose, and a weak chin. Bro, take that pic down. You in here posting trannies from Atlanta? TF?
Poon, you losing your mind. Clear skin, natural athletic body, her own hair. Probably trained as a dancer. Don't bother going to Havana. Nothing for you there. Stick to Fraggle Rock, you good in there.
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I think ATL was the first city i was in as the country was reopening during Covid, downtown was a wasteland. Was there for a trade show, and I walked around a fair bit.
Sounds like its back to full steam. I could see myself in a sports bar for the football game, but I would not cancel a root canal to see Travis Scott or be in a strip club at 3:00 in the afternoon.
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
Let me get this straight, it's my money. I want hot chicks serving me not dudes. Where do you get I lack confidence for not wanting dudes serving me? I give you live updates on whats popping right now.
I told you ATL is popping right now with talent. A lot of Cubans have moved to the A. I think I will take this Cuban chick down before I hit Travis Scott. Also, it's free as if you speak the language, have a personality and about your lifestyle you pulling all day everyday. I must be doing something right. I am never afraid of the bright lights. Now what about you impress me as you got a lot to say - do not get quiet now as talk is cheap. Put up.
Shit rocking right now down here! I am not being served by lumberjack dudes, but hot chicks right now! What's your all environment like right now?
285,
That chick is weak (if that’s even a real chick, cuz this is Atlanta we’re talking about, lol). How’re you posting tranny-body chicks and swearing they’re hot? 🥴😆
She got a flat ass and pancake breasts. There’s barely any substantial breast tissue rising up off that rib cage from the side view. Looks like a tranny dude on hormones TRYING to grow tits. Pause. 🥴✋🏽
She also has a long, strong nose, and a weak chin. Bro, take that pic down. You in here posting trannies from Atlanta? TF?
Poon, you losing your mind. Clear skin, natural athletic body, her own hair. Probably trained as a dancer. Don't bother going to Havana. Nothing for you there. Stick to Fraggle Rock, you good in there.
Viva La Vega (aka Mr. Contrarian),
Lol. I know you don’t like me. You always pop up TRYING to go against everything I post, just because. Emphasis on “trying,” not actually succeeding. 😆
Anyway, you think I’m losing my mind?
You: She has clear skin!
Reality Check: It’s called photoshop or digital retouching. 😐
You: She has a natural athletic body!
Reality Check: Do you see any muscle besides those somewhat manly shoulders? 🫠
You: She has her own hair!
Reality Check: You don’t see the telltale hair weave attachment hump at the back-top portion of her scalp? 🧐🤦🏽♂️
You: She’s a trained dancer!
Reality Check: Let us know what dance school she trained at, since you know her personally, lol. You’re just making shit up out of thin air. 😂
Bro, if you’re fooled this easily, there’s no telling how many dicks you done sucked in the dark that you swore were “large clits” or something. Go sit ya gay ass down, man. Wtf is wrong with you? Get a clue. Respectfully. 😂😂
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Dam I took a break but I see the same shit and the same people talking that dumb shit!
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There are so many gay guys in town that I’m starting to be concerned about what the f--k is actually going on here.
Its those direct flights from Atlanta.
You could be right. As was previously said, you have a lot of dudes with issues in Sosua right now. Regular Atlanta dudes left Sosua a long time ago. There would have to be an issue with you if you were a regular dude from Atlanta flying to Sosua. The talent level in Atlanta is out of this world right now. You cannot do well here; you have issues. You talk that sex prison stuff here, you lame as f--k. If I was a regular dude, this is where I would be without question, not desperate to get on a plane to get out of a depressing environment. Then, I complain about dudes when I land in Sosua. Your life, not mine.
was in ATL last week for Travis Scott, the amount of women throwing me play was nuts!
impregnate one of them.
Ah Make baby,Yup we all know some are raw dogging chicas in the su, why not ALT !
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I thought you would have more confidence that to be threatened by a bar with male waiters.
There was a Oyster Bar on Yew St. in Kits Vancouver (think it was called Chewies), a guy I know who lives here in the tropics who was a builder had taken a year off and was working at this spot as a waiter for the first time.
I was visiting and thought i would drop in as a surprise. The all male staff had a uniform that was overalls, a t shirt, a touque, timberlands. Everyone working there looked like a fricken lumberjack or fisherman or a marine. Big, bearded and buff. A bizzarro Hooters. I got there early, service was great but i questioned him about the staffing... He said "just wait". f--k me. by 6:00 pm the place was packed plus a line up outside of sex in the city type females. He told me it was busy 7 nights a week and regular guys start showing up around 9 to do the "clean up".
Let me get this straight, it's my money. I want hot chicks serving me not dudes. Where do you get I lack confidence for not wanting dudes serving me? I give you live updates on whats popping right now.
I told you ATL is popping right now with talent. A lot of Cubans have moved to the A. I think I will take this Cuban chick down before I hit Travis Scott. Also, it's free as if you speak the language, have a personality and about your lifestyle you pulling all day everyday. I must be doing something right. I am never afraid of the bright lights. Now what about you impress me as you got a lot to say - do not get quiet now as talk is cheap. Put up.
Shit rocking right now down here! I am not being served by lumberjack dudes, but hot chicks right now! What's your all environment like right now?
285,
That chick is weak (if that’s even a real chick, cuz this is Atlanta we’re talking about, lol). How’re you posting tranny-body chicks and swearing they’re hot? 🥴😆
She got a flat ass and pancake breasts. There’s barely any substantial breast tissue rising up off that rib cage from the side view. Looks like a tranny dude on hormones TRYING to grow tits. Pause. 🥴✋🏽
She also has a long, strong nose, and a weak chin. Bro, take that pic down. You in here posting trannies from Atlanta? TF?
Poon, you losing your mind. Clear skin, natural athletic body, her own hair. Probably trained as a dancer. Don't bother going to Havana. Nothing for you there. Stick to Fraggle Rock, you good in there.
Viva La Vega (aka Mr. Contrarian),
Lol. I know you don’t like me. You always pop up TRYING to go against everything I post, just because. Emphasis on “trying,” not actually succeeding. 😆
Anyway, you think I’m losing my mind?
You: She has clear skin!
Reality Check: It’s called photoshop or digital retouching. 😐
You: She has a natural athletic body!
Reality Check: Do you see any muscle besides those somewhat manly shoulders? 🫠
You: She has her own hair!
Reality Check: You don’t see the telltale hair weave attachment hump at the back-top portion of her scalp? 🧐🤦🏽♂️
You: She’s a trained dancer!
Reality Check: Let us know what dance school she trained at, since you know her personally, lol. You’re just making shit up out of thin air. 😂
Bro, if you’re fooled this easily, there’s no telling how many dicks you done sucked in the dark that you swore were “large clits” or something. Go sit ya gay ass down, man. Wtf is wrong with you? Get a clue. Respectfully. 😂😂
Yeah... Respectfully... Thats pretty funny.
In Cuba (although it is coming apart at the seams right now) everyone is entitled to free education and a job. Someone who looks like that at an early age is earmarked for a career in the arts. They were not training her to work in the cigar factories.
"Living in Havana was like living in a factory that produced human beauty on an assembly line." Graham Green 1958
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They need to start putting up don’t feed the bears signs here in Sosua. Perhaps some of the guys who come here would get the message. 🤔
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Klown shit! If you do not give a f--k, why do you read the posts and then take the time to respond? You give a f--k because you answered. Grown-ass men are lying to themselves in front of everyone. I do not respond or read the posts and write something when I do not give a f--k.
You do give a f--k because you want the whole board to know how you feel.
Because your on a Sosua board klown!!
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Klown shit! If you do not give a f--k, why do you read the posts and then take the time to respond? You give a f--k because you answered. Grown-ass men are lying to themselves in front of everyone. I do not respond or read the posts and write something when I do not give a f--k.
You do give a f--k because you want the whole board to know how you feel.
this klown
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Sosua is not over, it has changed. 10 yrs. ago it was wide open in the bars and clubs, fewer chicas walked the streets for work. 5 yrs. ago, after all the mens clubs shut, there were more chubby chicas on the street (maybe 20%). Now it's 30-40% chubbies and 10% out right obese!!! So, if these FUGLIES fat chicas can earn a living, WHO IS PAYING THEM!!! Not me. I'm not a sport f**ker, I look for long term good talent and age does not matter. A 20yr. old that's good on bed is as good as a 40yr. old that's good in bed.
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Sosua is not over, it has changed. 10 yrs. ago it was wide open in the bars and clubs, fewer chicas walked the streets for work. 5 yrs. ago, after all the mens clubs shut, there were more chubby chicas on the street (maybe 20%). Now it's 30-40% chubbies and 10% out right obese!!! So, if these FUGLIES fat chicas can earn a living, WHO IS PAYING THEM!!! Not me. I'm not a sport f**ker, I look for long term good talent and age does not matter. A 20yr. old that's good on bed is as good as a 40yr. old that's good in bed.
You need to add 10% to each category and throw in 20% for post surgery queens. That would leave for about 20% with natural un juiced bodies.
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I don't see those numbers . The natural ( non surgical ) and not "fat" chicas is about 30-40%. If you leave the area around Kings and Bailey's its 40-50%. Got some fine local talent down the street around Smiley's. All Haitian sweeties!!!
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I don't see those numbers . The natural ( non surgical ) and not "fat" chicas is about 30-40%. If you leave the area around Kings and Bailey's its 40-50%. Got some fine local talent down the street around Smiley's. All Haitian sweeties!!!
I stay down that way. You’re talking about a very small sample size. The bulk of the working girls in town are to be found between the small Playero and City Lights. The 10-15 haitianas that can be found near Smilies is barely a couple of drops in the bucket.
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That end of the block has chicas that the Kings guys don't see. Rancho Tipoco and Simliey's have semi pro talent. It may take some work to get her
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That end of the block has chicas that the Kings guys don't see. Rancho Tipoco and Simliey's have semi pro talent. It may take some work to get her
Dude those the chicks there aren't semi pros there hookers that can't compete with the other chicks down near Rumbas so they sit on the other end of town where guys like yourself will pick them up.
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No, the girls that work at Smile's will give you their number.
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And ill bet you if cozy up to few of the rancho tipico dancer / waitresses' you may get your dick wet !
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What are the chicas at Kings and Bailey.s doing different that the chicas at the other end of the block. Some hoes sit on there asses, others have jobs. Both whore for money, a chica with a job knows her place and not full of her self, 1,500 is 2 more than 2 days pay for a bar chica, 3,000 TLN is a day off plus!! You must under stand the 90 day rule in DR. Most staff are let go before 90 days, no pay outs!!! The girls know this, so they work the customers. Here's a tip off when this is in play, there are far to many servers than needed for customers. That may mean some of them are not getting payed at all and are there for tricks only.
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What are the chicas at Kings and Bailey.s doing different that the chicas at the other end of the block. Some hoes sit on there asses, others have jobs. Both whore for money, a chica with a job knows her place and not full of her self, 1,500 is 2 more than 2 days pay for a bar chica, 3,000 TLN is a day off plus!! You must under stand the 90 day rule in DR. Most staff are let go before 90 days, no pay outs!!! The girls know this, so they work the customers. Here's a tip off when this is in play, there are far to many servers than needed for customers. That may mean some of them are not getting payed at all and are there for tricks only.
Just pop up in YouTube Videos regularly. Some chics become online famous and thus desirable for guys coming who just hype her up.
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Is it worth it or not ? Depends on who you ask...sure beats these numbskulls who tried their hand in the states.
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Or these fools
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All for a piece off Ass, the thirst is real, this is why it should be legal in the States,Any who Im in the SU not be dead Boat at the end of the day untill a nuclear Bomb goes off and wipes Sosua and chicas off the map HOES are Going to be there,
If they meaning chicas do not have the following. husband with a good job ,rich family thats suports them legit buiness owner political connected,ECT there going to hustle AKA Hoeing semi pro waitrees dancer any part time job were you interact with gringos and mongers to hard core aggressive street walking,,,,,,,,unless the chica is married to a local bieing supported, goverment employee political conected,, the list goes on not all women are hoes but there arre a hellav lot that will f--k on the down low to make ends meet , !!!Take a stroll down DR rossen down by bailles arround the block big circle up by Supermacda playjero, look at the women, any women there all suported by men one way or the other local women may be christan have a husband does not go hoeing or cheat ,there are plenty of women that would not engage in any sex out side of marrige, but there sure is a hellava lot that will, theres the whole gamit of all types of chicas women that will do it to get money make ends meet,,,One of my regulars quoted to me she say i like money i like to buy things im not happy if i dont have money and this is a well dressed low level service job chica,,,,THEY ALL NEED MONEY its the big hustle Sirs Byer beware !!!
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Is it worth it or not ? Depends on who you ask...sure beats these numbskulls who tried their hand in the states.
These idiots may be potential pedos considering they keep saying trying to meet a teenager, instead of an adult or person. As the story develops more may come out.
https://wpde.com/amp/news/nation-world/17-suspects-arrested-in-las-vegas-police-child-sex-predator-sting-lvmpd-undercover-operation-metro-southern-nevada
If this was the related story they indeed were pedos and got caught soliciting police posing as 13-14 year olds 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Or these fools
they are also not bright and that human trafficking charge is gonna make a 12-18 month headache turn into a 2-7 year headache if not potentially worse.
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If hot takes on a post is a not allow lord knows no pedo talk should be allowed on the board.
Mods may want to curate some (more) posts.
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If hot takes on a post is a not allow lord knows no pedo talk should be allowed on the board.
Mods may want to curate some (more) posts.
well I’m not sure if the two stories are related. I just googled Vegas sting and that was the first story that popped up. It’s Vegas so weird sex shit happens there all the time. Wasn’t trying to hijack a topic or point just pointing out noticeable things in the article
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Try Santo Domingo
He prob get mugged going to the capital lol spicy over there
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OMG have you guys been walking around with blinders on! DR. has been the fantasy destination for decades for sex freaks and mongers. Every thing goes in DR., Sosua is a little backwater town in the game, it's only claim to fame is the beach and the number of chicas/acre . Child molesters should be dealt with harshly in my opinion. Here is the rub, had an 19 your old chica (beautiful), with 3 kids, so up the stump at 14-15, Dominican daddies. These guys put a baby in a young girl and f--k off.
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VM is a redlight district on par with Botero or SantaFe in quality/price, but unfortunately it’s more dirty. Like the others it’s essentially 24/7 action but I’d say it’s dead Sundays.
The other nightlife women
should cost you 40$ and up so it’s comparable to Sosua but I’d say you get better quality. Be it Mab’s, 4x4, Dolce Vita, etc
Dirtier than Botero AND Santa Fe? Damn that's some filthy ass shit.
Santa Fe reminds me of the South Bronx in 1980.
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VM is a redlight district on par with Botero or SantaFe in quality/price, but unfortunately it’s more dirty. Like the others it’s essentially 24/7 action but I’d say it’s dead Sundays.
The other nightlife women
should cost you 40$ and up so it’s comparable to Sosua but I’d say you get better quality. Be it Mab’s, 4x4, Dolce Vita, etc
Dirtier than Botero AND Santa Fe? Damn that's some filthy ass shit.
Santa Fe reminds me of the South Bronx in 1980.
When you see a solid and universal 8.5 walking around naked with nothing on but solely panties and flip flops, and she walks past you smoking a cigarette and drinking a beer spitting on the floor/in the streets you’ll appreciate the spandex and tubis. Makes some of the dustiest people look modest at times, and this is by choice/laziness not poverty. Fine as f--k, but you fall back like “lil mama there is a little tooo hardcore, and this will be where I draw the line” and the facilities are garbage or smells. That’s not all of VM, and the actual clubs there are fine but man it’s night and day in the same area. Like the worse of charimicos is next to the casino. Worth checking out, but don’t recommend taking anything out if you’re faint of heart.
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OMG have you guys been walking around with blinders on! DR. has been the fantasy destination for decades for sex freaks and mongers. Every thing goes in DR., Sosua is a little backwater town in the game, it's only claim to fame is the beach and the number of chicas/acre . Child molesters should be dealt with harshly in my opinion. Here is the rub, had an 19 your old chica (beautiful), with 3 kids, so up the stump at 14-15, Dominican daddies. These guys put a baby in a young girl and f--k off.
Bingo Horny as rabbits, sure gets boring in a barrio so once the teenager reaches puberty he gonna want to climb on the neirbors daughter,there ya go thats why a lot of chicas have when bambinos there 15 and up,,,,,dont forget rape an incest
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OMG have you guys been walking around with blinders on! DR. has been the fantasy destination for decades for sex freaks and mongers. Every thing goes in DR., Sosua is a little backwater town in the game, it's only claim to fame is the beach and the number of chicas/acre . Child molesters should be dealt with harshly in my opinion. Here is the rub, had an 19 your old chica (beautiful), with 3 kids, so up the stump at 14-15, Dominican daddies. These guys put a baby in a young girl and f--k off.
Bingo Horny as rabbits, sure gets boring in a barrio so once the teenager reaches puberty he gonna want to climb on the neirbors daughter,there ya go thats why a lot of chicas have when bambinos there 15 and up,,,,,dont forget rape an incest
Don’t forget predators. Many teenagers are having babies for guys 10+ years their senior.
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Predators! All these local F**KERS are predators, family included. If a chica has not been molested by the time she's 16-17 she has been sheltered by a loving family. The street chicas are mostly abused women with the problems that go along with that.Some get past that and build a good life others it's drugs and booze to get numb.
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Predators! All these local F**KERS are predators, family included. If a chica has not been molested by the time she's 16-17 she has been sheltered by a loving family. The street chicas are mostly abused women with the problems that go along with that.Some get past that and build a good life others it's drugs and booze to get numb.
Calm down as you would then be a predator yourself for coming down there and paying them for sex.
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WTF!!! I DON'T f--k CHILDREN!!!!
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
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Happens in Haiti too,One of my haitain chicas fessed up and said she was raped by here brother in law when she was age 16 ,no bunea
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
Cut the crap. As a monger, no matter where in the world you go, you're dealing with damaged goods. On some level any one who mongers is exploiting damaged females. There's a bit of predator in all of us.
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
You guys are missing what I SAID. To make it clear " THESE GIRLS ARE OFTEN ABUSED BY FAMILY" people they trusted to look after them, so they have problems with drugs and booze to dull the pain. I do not take advantage of them, but I UNDERSTAND THEIR PAIN. I know how they feel.
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For sure, not that you want to know deep dark secrets of chicas but it does come to lite if you have long time regulars,,, pros and semi pros,,,,,all chicas have there stories,,, the term f--ked up families sums it up,, Any ways if your just sport smashing have fun, dont get got or go to deep or make it more than just sex , its drama not needed, each chica has there own copeing skills
funny i know one chica is a clothing and hand bag nut, alwayds collecting and hoarding things ever go to a chicas casa and they have all the toiletries from hotels,, clyptomainacs is one side affect !!!!!!
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BRO, chicas take little shit all the time, I leave bait out to see if the chica takes it!!! Shit that they can have.It's a game, but with real out comes. I tell them, I know you took it, I have you on camera.
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
You guys are missing what I SAID. To make it clear " THESE GIRLS ARE OFTEN ABUSED BY FAMILY" people they trusted to look after them, so they have problems with drugs and booze to dull the pain. I do not take advantage of them, but I UNDERSTAND THEIR PAIN. I know how they feel.
I dont know how they feel. I dont understand how someone could do that to them.
All I know is if a women tells me she got raped. The last thing on my mind is f--king them.
We live in the west with Me too laws and if I did anything wierd I could be prosecuted in the states
So for me same rules of consent apply. Any indication that she feels coerced in any way and Im out
Additionally women get molested everywhere but If I thought that it was rampant in certain place Id avoid that place.
Im not one of these feminists who believe that sex workers have been raped or abused some do but most just want shit that they cant afford. Thats like saying women sell ass in Sousa because theyre hungry
In reality youd probably starve in Seattle before you starved in Sosua
But youre far more likely to have an Iphone in Sea town than in Sosua
Some of things yall post say more than yall meant to reveal
If youre a fan of sousa that should mean that you actually like Sosua and Dominicans and there culture if you dont then you should go somewhere where you actually like the people
For example Im not planning to go to Haiti anytime soon but I admire them because they achieved what was thought to be impossible in 1804
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
Cut the crap. As a monger, no matter where in the world you go, you're dealing with damaged goods. On some level any one who mongers is exploiting damaged females. There's a bit of predator in all of us.
Speak for yourself.
By that line of thinking you could deal with crackheads back home.
I mean if these women are "damaged goods" then they should upcharge and steal from you.
I directly asked why women sold sex and generally they said because they wanted or "needed" money
When they said they needed it they meant they needed to buy gifts for loved ones
But maybe Im speaking for myself because usually chicks I deal with have jobs.
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
Cut the crap. As a monger, no matter where in the world you go, you're dealing with damaged goods. On some level any one who mongers is exploiting damaged females. There's a bit of predator in all of us.
Speak for yourself.
By that line of thinking you could deal with crackheads back home.
I mean if these women are "damaged goods" then they should upcharge and steal from you.
I directly asked why women sold sex and generally they said because they wanted or "needed" money
When they said they needed it they meant they needed to buy gifts for loved ones
But maybe Im speaking for myself because usually chicks I deal with have jobs.
Sirs One Haitain Dud i know qouted we all need money, One haitain chica qoted need money for family,send home to mother and farther mabey help out siblings,,,,,Even if the chica has a regular job,, guess what wages pay shit, there not going to cut it,, of couces chicas are going to sell some ass to make ends meet or seek out an American boy friend or Hello Canaidian,hehe,,,they would rather have a few good guys on there roster,, just like us mongers that want a few good chicas a
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P4P is not even close to that. I'm an adult, she is an adult. You have no call to say that!. F**k you!!!
I'd say that Dominicans as a whole should be offended by your last post.
And the point stands if these poor Dominican women have been and are exploited then you wouldn't want to contrubute in any shape form of fashion into the exploitation and staying far away from any P4P there considering what you "know".
That sure went off the rails. My original use of the term predator referred to adult Dominican men that prey on teenagers or even younger girls. It’s a big problem in the country. Yes, there are gringos that come me here to take advantage of under age girls; however, they are eclipsed by local men who do so by a significant order of magnitude.
What I and I think @Batman are trying to say is that we may or may not me aware of that fact but @stinqu coming on here trying to grand stand like he is some great guy when he is coming here and having sex with those same girls even if they are now of legal age now. I mean he is saying he has sex with women that have to do drugs and booze to numb the pain seems like he is a predator himself.
Cut the crap. As a monger, no matter where in the world you go, you're dealing with damaged goods. On some level any one who mongers is exploiting damaged females. There's a bit of predator in all of us.
Speak for yourself.
By that line of thinking you could deal with crackheads back home.
I mean if these women are "damaged goods" then they should upcharge and steal from you.
I directly asked why women sold sex and generally they said because they wanted or "needed" money
When they said they needed it they meant they needed to buy gifts for loved ones
But maybe Im speaking for myself because usually chicks I deal with have jobs.
Or you’re not very perceptive. You should try digging a little deeper the next time you ask the question. Having a job is not a sure marker of undamaged goods.
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Depends on perception of what damaged goods mean
If you have a. Blue pilled Maddona whore complex where the fact a women is damaged because she has a williness to have sex That might mean that Men who go to countries to have sex are damaged too.
I guess I just think that it benefits any woman that I have around me so just like Im not damaged for dealing with her shes not damaged by dealing with me
Words have meanings the. DR is one of the few countries where Men can be Men
All the silly shit boys from abroad get into they never tried to hold all foriegn Men accountable for what some boys did.
All Im saying is be careful of stereotyping normal gender relations just because its not the same back home.
If someone said all western girls are damaged drug addicts that steal from everyone youd probably have a problem with the insinuation.
Shit works the same overseas youre an enternal guest
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BRO, chicas take little shit all the time, I leave bait out to see if the chica takes it!!! Shit that they can have.It's a game, but with real out comes. I tell them, I know you took it, I have you on camera.
As long as you stop dealing with them after you know they stole
Asking for shit is annoying stealing is unacceptable.
As long as youre not rewarding bad behavior its cool.
But some dudes complian here then turn around and deal with the theif then are surprised when she steals something significant.
Thats the problem I have with the all girls are molested talj. If you feel that way you expect them to steal and be dishonorable.
If your honorable treat people fair and generally like peopke youll attract the same in Sosua or New york
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Playing devils advocate. Dominican women that supposedly have been preyed upon by their own men when they were young, should they not contribute in any shape, form or fashion in exploiting themselves further? Should these women also stay far away from any P4P, considering what they have been through?
They know about predatory behavior in enough men. Dont women bear some responsibility in contributing to their healing? And if not, why not? When does the DR family and communities responsibility kick it on behalf of these women? Or is it all on the foreigner to protect females from themselves?
If one were to ask me, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
In other words, no man can exploit these ADULT women, unless they themselves put themselves in that position. And then it becomes a matter of who is really exploiting who? They both could be exploiting each other for personal gain. There are no real victims here. Exploitation is a common occurrence in life. P4P is a barter and exchange practice. With the power of negotiations at the helm.
There is always some person, place or thing being exploited on some level. Women and children do not have a monopoly on being exploited. So if someone is standing up for the principle of, it's not good to exploit people. Then they should be standing up for that principle in every instance, not just when it comes to protecting females.
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BRO, chicas take little shit all the time, I leave bait out to see if the chica takes it!!! Shit that they can have.It's a game, but with real out comes. I tell them, I know you took it, I have you on camera.
As long as you stop dealing with them after you know they stole
Asking for shit is annoying stealing is unacceptable.
As long as youre not rewarding bad behavior its cool.
But some dudes complian here then turn around and deal with the theif then are surprised when she steals something significant.
Thats the problem I have with the all girls are molested talj. If you feel that way you expect them to steal and be dishonorable.
If your honorable treat people fair and generally like peopke youll attract the same in Sosua or New york
The thing though, people evaluate risk vs reward based on their own discernment. Not necessarily how they were conditioned to behave or react , or by taking suggestions from outsiders with their own rules. Im the one dealing with the chick, and Im the one to determine my risk vs reward. What kind of theft am I dealing with?
If a dude adopted the policy of never dealing with a chica that has stolen something, chances are the chica roster would be quite thin.
Whats more practical? Get rid of every chick that has the propensity to steal? Or do a better job of securing your stuff? Weve covered it here dozens of times. Secure your stuff. I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
As for the karma perspective that if one is honorable, treat people fair, and generally like people, that person will attract the same. That certainly sounds good, and I can see where that may apply with some people. But the reality may be, that wont necessarily play out that way in the DR. Especially with people in survival mode. Who have a tendency to see foreigners as utilities, financial problem solvers, and should be paying more than locals for everything.
Too many anecdotal examples out there of guys trying to be honorable, trying to be fair, and all they got was the opposite of what they were hoping for. The truth of the matter. Dealing with enough locals in the DR is like a boxing match. You have to protect yourself at all times. Never underestimate the people you are dealing with. Too many times, guys have done the honorable thing, the fair thing, and locals exploited those who did that.
TBH, this doesnt just happen in the DR. This also applies in the states. Some people who are not honorable, and not fair, they gravitate towards those people they can exploit. Their circumstances makes it easy for honorable, fair people to see those people as disadvantaged. And thats how people get got. The person thinks "If Im honorable, and fair, I will attract the same."
Disadvantaged people being blessed doesnt mean they will appreciate what honorable,fair people can do for them. Sometimes, just the opposite can happen. Sometimes disadvantaged people secretly resent those that can or have helped them. But they hide that resentment.
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BRO, chicas take little shit all the time, I leave bait out to see if the chica takes it!!! Shit that they can have.It's a game, but with real out comes. I tell them, I know you took it, I have you on camera.
As long as you stop dealing with them after you know they stole
Asking for shit is annoying stealing is unacceptable.
As long as youre not rewarding bad behavior its cool.
But some dudes complian here then turn around and deal with the theif then are surprised when she steals something significant.
Thats the problem I have with the all girls are molested talj. If you feel that way you expect them to steal and be dishonorable.
If your honorable treat people fair and generally like peopke youll attract the same in Sosua or New york
The thing though, people evaluate risk vs reward based on their own discernment. Not necessarily how they were conditioned to behave or react , or by taking suggestions from outsiders with their own rules. Im the one dealing with the chick, and Im the one to determine my risk vs reward. What kind of theft am I dealing with?
Or do a better job of securing your stuff? Weve covered it here dozens of times. Secure your stuff. I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff.
Especially with people in survival mode. Who have a tendency to see foreigners as utilities, financial problem solvers, and should be paying more than locals for everything.
Never underestimate the people you are dealing with. Too many times, guys have done the honorable thing, the fair thing, and locals exploited those who did that.
Disadvantaged people being blessed doesnt mean they will appreciate what honorable,fair people can do for them. Sometimes, just the opposite can happen. Sometimes disadvantaged people secretly resent those that can or have helped them. But they hide that resentment.
I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off. They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Obviously you will continue to behave how you want. I highlighted the first part because guys who get robbed, drugged and kidnapped/killed all do their own risk assessments and aren’t all idiots or not aware of things. They made decisions based upon their individual knowledge, experience and comfort. Like you said a stranger giving a recommendation isn’t beating what you feel comfortable doing despite advice and warning. Some will saying thanks, some say no thanks, some say noted but still up to them/you to decide what you want to do. Just certain a few guys said similar to you, maybe not in the same exact context but the “I got it, and know what I’m doing” is a narrative a lot of guys have, yet shit happens regularly. Even a Thailand expert can get ripped off without P4P if in the wrong area/situation
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BRO, chicas take little shit all the time, I leave bait out to see if the chica takes it!!! Shit that they can have.It's a game, but with real out comes. I tell them, I know you took it, I have you on camera.
As long as you stop dealing with them after you know they stole
Asking for shit is annoying stealing is unacceptable.
As long as youre not rewarding bad behavior its cool.
But some dudes complian here then turn around and deal with the theif then are surprised when she steals something significant.
Thats the problem I have with the all girls are molested talj. If you feel that way you expect them to steal and be dishonorable.
If your honorable treat people fair and generally like peopke youll attract the same in Sosua or New york
The thing though, people evaluate risk vs reward based on their own discernment. Not necessarily how they were conditioned to behave or react , or by taking suggestions from outsiders with their own rules. Im the one dealing with the chick, and Im the one to determine my risk vs reward. What kind of theft am I dealing with?
If a dude adopted the policy of never dealing with a chica that has stolen something, chances are the chica roster would be quite thin.
Whats more practical? Get rid of every chick that has the propensity to steal? Or do a better job of securing your stuff? Weve covered it here dozens of times. Secure your stuff. I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
As for the karma perspective that if one is honorable, treat people fair, and generally like people, that person will attract the same. That certainly sounds good, and I can see where that may apply with some people. But the reality may be, that wont necessarily play out that way in the DR. Especially with people in survival mode. Who have a tendency to see foreigners as utilities, financial problem solvers, and should be paying more than locals for everything.
Too many anecdotal examples out there of guys trying to be honorable, trying to be fair, and all they got was the opposite of what they were hoping for. The truth of the matter. Dealing with enough locals in the DR is like a boxing match. You have to protect yourself at all times. Never underestimate the people you are dealing with. Too many times, guys have done the honorable thing, the fair thing, and locals exploited those who did that.
TBH, this doesnt just happen in the DR. This also applies in the states. Some people who are not honorable, and not fair, they gravitate towards those people they can exploit. Their circumstances makes it easy for honorable, fair people to see those people as disadvantaged. And thats how people get got. The person thinks "If Im honorable, and fair, I will attract the same."
Disadvantaged people being blessed doesnt mean they will appreciate what honorable,fair people can do for them. Sometimes, just the opposite can happen. Sometimes disadvantaged people secretly resent those that can or have helped them. But they hide that resentment.
Yes Sir Murano On Guard and treat it like a boxing match,,, thats how you move down here, thats how im operating down here, dealing with Donimicans hatians and even my adopted wife haha ! If you take measure as if not to be gotten or get got you will do fine,, as far as chicas stealing its the have and have nots, if your a gringo, they think you rich and can aford it, its the price of doing business,,,,some chicas will steal flies from a blind spider, smoke from a wood stove, other chicas a tooth brush or a roll of toilet paper, other chicas not one single item ,,,,as long as your takeing care of them hehe, i wont mention the grand theft from one chica a few years ago,,, but life goes on.. carry on sirs my motto is DONT GET GOT !
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I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off.
They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Please give me some examples of how this scenario is supposed to play out? Chicas purposely allowed to steal, and them being cut off? Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done? Explain what happened that rises to the level of being potentially dangerous?
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I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off.
They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Please give me some examples of how this scenario is supposed to play out? Chicas purposely allowed to steal, and them being cut off? Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done? Explain what happened that rises to the level of being potentially dangerous?
A guy drops a regular who he has a workable arrangement(maybe 1-3 sessions per week but it’s always LT unless you want it ST) with because she steals something. Chica could lie and say you hit her, raped her, stole from her, etc… because she may have had an immediate debt due, and doesn’t have you to rely on for financing. She may have spent the money before it even came. May be about to be beat up, arrested/extorted, evicted, no child items, whatever other justification as her rationale as to why she responded over the top for a money grab move. It can result in nothing but añ annoyance and sullied reputation to possibly legal consequences or you paying someone off. I’m sure things like this also occur with live in chicas who are unpredictable and erratic when a breakup occurs.
Issue could be avoided if he not playing intentionally character test with prostitutes and keeps it secure and professional with chica proofing.
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Ive been coming to Sosua since late 2010, and lived in Sosua since 2014. I dont understand what is the big deal about cutting a chica off? For stealing or any other reason we deem appropriate.
Things that caused dudes to cut a chica off :
1. Lateness, failing to call/communicate, update
2. Poor hygiene
3. Bad attitude, stank attitude
4. Tired of a chica, replaced her with others.
5. Chica becomes a burden, too needy etc.
6. Getting caught lying. Or lying too much
7. Getting an STD from a chick
8. Chica is no longer attractive to the guy.
9. Chica is seen with so many guys, it turns a guy off.
10.Fill in the blank _______________add theft/stealing
My point here is : Men/mongers have always cut off and replaced women. And women have dealt with that. Since when has cutting chicas off been some potentially dangerous game?
Gaining and losing clients is what chicas expect in the game. When a chica gets cut off, do men/mongers feel obligated to give chicas an explanation? Of course not. The reality for enough chicas, is that they may never know why some dude stopped dealing with them. Especially, if whatever happened was something the guy was able to work out on his own. Informing the chick would not make much difference in the outcome. So why bother?
Like me not telling Mosha why I am not patronizing his restaurant when he was on the beach. I can cut him off without offering him an explanation. Some chicas get mad or pretend to get mad when they dont get business from a guy. But so what? Let them get mad?
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I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off.
They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Please give me some examples of how this scenario is supposed to play out? Chicas purposely allowed to steal, and them being cut off? Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done? Explain what happened that rises to the level of being potentially dangerous?
A guy drops a regular who he has a workable arrangement(maybe 1-3 sessions per week but it’s always LT unless you want it ST) with because she steals something. Chica could lie and say you hit her, raped her, stole from her, etc… because she may have had an immediate debt due, and doesn’t have you to rely on for financing. She may have spent the money before it even came. May be about to be beat up, arrested/extorted, evicted, no child items, whatever other justification as her rationale as to why she responded over the top for a money grab move. It can result in nothing but añ annoyance and sullied reputation to possibly legal consequences or you paying someone off. I’m sure things like this also occur with live in chicas who are unpredictable and erratic when a breakup occurs.
Issue could be avoided if he not playing intentionally character test with prostitutes and keeps it secure and professional with chica proofing.
I think you missed the most important part of what I asked. I asked you "how are the chicas supposedly being cut off? When and how was that done?" You did not give me that information as it would pertain to my perspective.
In order for the negativity in your scenario to play out, there would have been some form of confrontation between the guy and the chick about her stealing something. When was it suggested or inferred that a confrontation was a part of dealing with a chica that stole something based on taking some bait or failing a test?
I will give you a real life example. A Haitian regular of mine since 2015, stole about 300 pesos out of a drawer next to my bed. That happened in 2017. It wasnt a test or even a set up. The money had been sitting in that drawer for months, untouched. That means that chica and many others never went in that drawer or never stole the money in that drawer.
I saw everything she did. After that incident. I took a break from her. I didnt confront the chick. I never told her what I saw. What I did do, is I eventually got her to repay me and fined her. How did I do that? When I finally had her over again, I paid her less than our usual arrangement. I got her to agree to that beforehand. After that, I was made whole. She didnt need to know why I took a break from her. She wasnt my GF, she was just a regular.
We both had regulars, and I travelled a lot. So there was no reason for anything to jump off like what you described. What you are describing has specific details that would be in place. None of which necessarily would apply in my case, and maybe not with most other guys.
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Ive been coming to Sosua since late 2010, and lived in Sosua since 2014. I dont understand what is the big deal about cutting a chica off? For stealing or any other reason we deem appropriate.
Things that caused dudes to cut a chica off :
1. Lateness, failing to call/communicate, update
2. Poor hygiene
3. Bad attitude, stank attitude
4. Tired of a chica, replaced her with others.
5. Chica becomes a burden, too needy etc.
6. Getting caught lying. Or lying too much
7. Getting an STD from a chick
8. Chica is no longer attractive to the guy.
9. Chica is seen with so many guys, it turns a guy off.
10.Fill in the blank _______________add theft/stealing
My point here is : Men/mongers have always cut off and replaced women. And women have dealt with that. Since when has cutting chicas off been some potentially dangerous game?
Gaining and losing clients is what chicas expect in the game. When a chica gets cut off, do men/mongers feel obligated to give chicas an explanation? Of course not. The reality for enough chicas, is that they may never know why some dude stopped dealing with them. Especially, if whatever happened was something the guy was able to work out on his own. Informing the chick would not make much difference in the outcome. So why bother?
Like me not telling Mosha why I am not patronizing his restaurant when he was on the beach. I can cut him off without offering him an explanation. Some chicas get mad or pretend to get mad when they dont get business from a guy. But so what? Let them get mad?
This is precisely why I always tell newbies to never catch feelings/lust no matter how good her skills are. If you're smart, and your frequently travel to DR, you should be able to assemble at least a handful of chikas that you feel comfortable with. My aim is at least one per trip. Last trip I snagged 2. Could they disappear? Sure, but you should always be replacing/adding.
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I want apologize to every one for my earlier out burst. The accusation triggered me because I personally know the damage caused by abuse, and the resulting chaos to a persons life after. So I can recognize the signs and coping behaviors.
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By no means do I think all P4P chicas were abused, far from it. For many it's just about the most money for the least work! They know the option is there when needed. It's not unheard of for women with a job or their own business to seek "help" from a man for a night out. Why do you think Dulce Secreto's exist!!! There not for the Gringos!
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The problem with discussions like this, people tend to use terminology that gets misinterpreted, misconstrued and misapplied.
Exploitation has more than one meaning and more than one way to apply it : It could be the use of something in order to get an advantage from it, or the act of using someone unfairly for your own advantage.
Rape or Statutory rape is exploiting someone unfairly and in a criminal manner for ones own advantage.
A man/monger doing P4P with consenting adult women may be exploiting ( taking advantage of the women's need for money ) to get something specific from them. In that instance, it's not necessarily unfair, it's not being abusive nor is it a criminal act. At least not in Sosua.
The problem with arguments like this, some people try to imply exploitation of a womans financial circumstances is wrong. Equating it with being some form of sexual abuse. When it is not really a right or wrong issue. Nor is it abuse.
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Additionally, adult women in Sosua doing P4P with consenting foreigners may be exploiting ( taking advantage of mens need or lust for sex or to have a particular type of woman ) to get something specific from them. In that instance, it's not necessarily wrong, unfair, nor is it a criminal act. At least not in Sosua.
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I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off.
They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Please give me some examples of how this scenario is supposed to play out? Chicas purposely allowed to steal, and them being cut off? Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done? Explain what happened that rises to the level of being potentially dangerous?
A guy drops a regular who he has a workable arrangement(maybe 1-3 sessions per week but it’s always LT unless you want it ST) with because she steals something. Chica could lie and say you hit her, raped her, stole from her, etc… because she may have had an immediate debt due, and doesn’t have you to rely on for financing. She may have spent the money before it even came. May be about to be beat up, arrested/extorted, evicted, no child items, whatever other justification as her rationale as to why she responded over the top for a money grab move. It can result in nothing but añ annoyance and sullied reputation to possibly legal consequences or you paying someone off. I’m sure things like this also occur with live in chicas who are unpredictable and erratic when a breakup occurs.
Issue could be avoided if he not playing intentionally character test with prostitutes and keeps it secure and professional with chica proofing.
I think you missed the most important part of what I asked. I asked you "how are the chicas supposedly being cut off? When and how was that done?" You did not give me that information as it would pertain to my perspective.
In order for the negativity in your scenario to play out, there would have been some form of confrontation between the guy and the chick about her stealing something.
No confrontation, you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. Like you said before you leave it out, it’s gone and you stop doing business with her. The only way she finds it out is she pieces it together, or you explicitly tell her later. Again her rationale is because she spent future money, it’s when she tries to return and you rebuff her, is when an issue can occur.
I’ve seen chicas both Dominican and Haitians, get angry, curse and threaten guys when they regular johns stopping f--king with them because they did some flaw shit like an 1000 peso up charge because of the kids needing help. They attack the guys character, pockets and other shit
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Murano I’m using your own quotes and logic to make you aware(pretty sure you’re aware but didn’t realize what I was doing) that again many guys get advice from strangers concerning safety, or ways to go about doing things. You either accept, ignore it or compartmentalize it for later. Advice could be sound, helpful or unnecessary but many individuals will dismiss it as “not necessary because I know what I’m doing” or “how does that apply to me, not exactly my case” because as you said you manage your own risk vs reward using your own discernment not advice from añ outsider.
You’re one of the guys you’re talking about, which is why when I quoted you, I cut out everything unnecessary and just kept the relevant comments. Not saying anything bad will happen to you, just when any guy in general (yourself and myself included) get advice concerning our behavior and mannerisms that some can deem unnecessary(why you testing a chica morals and loyalty when it’s a P4P hooker at the end of the day. Friendships cool but stay professional and put the stuff up, in my opinion do you) obviously the guy will guage it and say I’m good. I’m saying the guys who had unfortunate things happen to them, likely followed that train of thought and said those exact words more often than not. Again I don’t want anything bad to happen to anyone, save a racist, child abuser, or anyone else who causes intentionally harm/cruelty.
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No confrontation, you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. Like you said before you leave it out, it’s gone and you stop doing business with her. The only way she finds it out is she pieces it together, or you explicitly tell her later. Again her rationale is because she spent future money, it’s when she tries to return and you rebuff her, is when an issue can occur.
I’ve seen chicas both Dominican and Haitians, get angry, curse and threaten guys when they regular johns stopping f--king with them because they did some flaw shit like an 1000 peso up charge because of the kids needing help. They attack the guys character, pockets and other shit
You've seen chicas get angry, curse and threaten guys. Attack their character, pockets and other shit. And how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
Have you also seen guys stop dealing with chicks or cutting off chicks without any drama? Of course you have. I have too. Maybe more than you. So which circumstance has the greater probability of happening? Drama filled endings or drama free endings? Drama free endings.
I have seen more instances of drama free endings with a regular than guys being hemmed up by the likes of chicas that you described. Drama free endings dont get much attention. It's almost like it doesnt exist.
It's only when there is drama do people talk about it. My experience in the game allows me to do what works for me. Not go strictly by hypothetical scenarios and unsubstantiated claims of what a chica might do, or could do, or did do to other men. I trust my own experience and observations to be my guide.
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No confrontation, you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. Like you said before you leave it out, it’s gone and you stop doing business with her. The only way she finds it out is she pieces it together, or you explicitly tell her later. Again her rationale is because she spent future money, it’s when she tries to return and you rebuff her, is when an issue can occur.
I’ve seen chicas both Dominican and Haitians, get angry, curse and threaten guys when they regular johns stopping f--king with them because they did some flaw shit like an 1000 peso up charge because of the kids needing help. They attack the guys character, pockets and other shit
You've seen chicas get angry, curse and threaten guys. Attack their character, pockets and other shit. And how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
Have you also seen guys stop dealing with chicks or cutting off chicks without any drama? Of course you have. I have too. Maybe more than you. So which circumstance has the greater probability of happening? Drama filled endings or drama free endings? Drama free endings.
I have seen more instances of drama free endings with a regular than guys being hemmed up by the likes of chicas that you described. Drama free endings dont get much attention. It's almost like it doesnt exist.
It's only when there is drama do people talk about it. My experience in the game allows me to do what works for me. Not go strictly by hypothetical scenarios and unsubstantiated claims of what a chica might do, or could do, or did do to other men. I trust my own experience and observations to be my guide.
The purpose was to show you what happens when guys get offered safety suggestions from a stranger. Some will shrug it off with “I’m know what’s I’m doing” essentially what you’re doing. Not attacking you, letting you see how your assessment of folks works out, when it’s applied to you. No grown man really cares about advice from others, when they did their own risk vs reward assessments as they feel they have enough information.
I used a simple example that’s not overly complicated. Again it’s not the cutting the chica off, as it’a the why even waste time and put yourself in a compromising position? Do you want the chic to steal, are you bored? do you see yourself wanting more from her than a casual relationship which is why you want to test her character? Nothing against you or how you move, just letting you get a pov of the guys who you’re likely talking about. Few guys monger without doing any research into trip reports, horror stories and more So they often have awareness of scams and tricks the women use, yet still find themselves f--ked over.
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Murano I’m using your own quotes and logic to make you aware(pretty sure you’re aware but didn’t realize what I was doing) that again many guys get advice from strangers concerning safety, or ways to go about doing things. You either accept, ignore it or compartmentalize it for later. Advice could be sound, helpful or unnecessary but many individuals will dismiss it as “not necessary because I know what I’m doing” or “how does that apply to me, not exactly my case” because as you said you manage your own risk vs reward using your own discernment not advice from añ outsider.
You’re one of the guys you’re talking about, which is why when I quoted you, I cut out everything unnecessary and just kept the relevant comments. Not saying anything bad will happen to you, just when any guy in general (yourself and myself included) get advice concerning our behavior and mannerisms that some can deem unnecessary(why you testing a chica morals and loyalty when it’s a P4P hooker at the end of the day. Friendships cool but stay professional and put the stuff up, in my opinion do you) obviously the guy will guage it and say I’m good. I’m saying the guys who had unfortunate things happen to them, likely followed that train of thought and said those exact words more often than not. Again I don’t want anything bad to happen to anyone, save a racist, child abuser, or anyone else who causes intentionally harm/cruelty.
Actually Travelguy, the problem I see is that you did not represent my perspective the way I intended. You started off claiming that I was potentially playing a dangerous game ( in thought ) by purposefully allowing chicas to steal then cutting them off.
If I am not cutting chicas off as you surmised, how does all of that hypothetical stuff about what a chica may do to a guy apply to me? A chica is going to steal if that is what she sets out to do. You can put loose change out and the chica steals something else. The chica is the culprit here, not the victim of a theft.
This is what I said that is relevant If a dude adopted the policy of never dealing with a chica that has stolen something, chances are the chica roster would be quite thin.
Whats more practical? Get rid of every chick that has the propensity to steal? Or do a better job of securing your stuff? Weve covered it here dozens of times. Secure your stuff.
So where in that statement did I say anything about cutting a chica off for stealing? If anything the emphasis of my message is not about cutting a chica off, but about securing your stuff. And not trusting any chica.
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You literally said you see nothing wrong with leaving bait out for a chica. If she steals it, either you continue to do business with her because it’s no big deal, or you discontinue with interactions based around sex. Even if you reduce the amount you still messing with her. Can we have that established? You either cutting her off by not continuing or you still messing with her!
I said it’s “potentially dangerous” because your either gonna encourage her to steal more(positive reinforcement) or she’s gonna feel punished(because no more money coming her way) because the cash flow slowed since the theft. I didn’t call her a victim, I said she can lack accountability for herself and paint herself out as a victim and flat out lie. I gave the reason why, money and debt as the cause. I didn’t say that it’d occur, I said it’s a possibility and to prevent that I mitigate potential bs.
“Prevention is primary” is a phrase used in healthcare and other human services. It’s to mitigate and avoid negative things before they even start. Rather the best cure, is to avoid the situation developing at all. So I see little reason to play mind games and test the ethics or poor people or folks who feel disenfranchised. You said it yourself also that some will put on a good show while harboring resentment.
I’ll reiterate, my feelings about what you or another do isn’t my concern. I’m simply pointing out that a stranger giving advice in concern to safety to another man(it’s altruism with no ulterior motives or financial gain on my end) can easily be dismissed by “I got it and know what I’m doing” I’m saying that same rationale and logic is also used by individuals who find themselves screwed. That’s why I said your optiona are to ignore it, use it or save it in your mind for later. I’m not hoping that happens but I’m letting you experience it first hand, how rejecting advice from a stranger works, when you already did your risk vs reward. Or rather just showing you a mirror. I’m not a hypocrite, I f--ked high risk chicas who are known to steal and nothing bad happened to me despite my travel buddy constantly reiterating his distrust in the chica before and after, even when things worked out(he has more experience in Sosua than me) but doesn’t mean I’m comfortable or that she wouldn’t try to play me in a future date.
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Bingo,,,,Are you gonna throw a chica under the bus for taking a tooth brush toilet paper or you favorite after shave,,, when she may have been a great f--k,,hmmmm the cost of doing business, all depends you can call her out pon ot, or say f--k it cut her off your list ,,, carry on sirs !
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The purpose was to show you what happens when guys get offered safety suggestions from a stranger. Some will shrug it off with “I’m know what’s I’m doing” essentially what you’re doing. Not attacking you, letting you see how your assessment of folks works out, when it’s applied to you. No grown man really cares about advice from others, when they did their own risk vs reward assessments as they feel they have enough information.
I used a simple example that’s not overly complicated. Again it’s not the cutting the chica off, as it’a the why even waste time and put yourself in a compromising position? Do you want the chic to steal, are you bored? do you see yourself wanting more from her than a casual relationship which is why you want to test her character? Nothing against you or how you move, just letting you get a pov of the guys who you’re likely talking about. Few guys monger without doing any research into trip reports, horror stories and more So they often have awareness of scams and tricks the women use, yet still find themselves f--ked over.
1st off learning who you are dealing with is never a waste of time. Testing a chica is not a waste of time, because it is a form of vetting. A man can test a chick for stealing, lying or anything else.
I believe a man is putting himself more in a compromising position, when he doesnt know what a chicas potential may be. A man can help resolve that issue by using what ever opportunities that presents itself in vetting who he is dealing with. The motivation for testing is not about wanting a chica to steal or about being bored, or because he wants something from the chica.
I was referring to one aspect or strategy in dealing with some chicas, with the goal of protecting ones own interests.
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#1. You literally said you see nothing wrong with leaving bait out for a chica. If she steals it, either you continue to do business with her because it’s no big deal, or you discontinue with interactions based around sex. Even if you reduce the amount you still messing with her. Can we have that established? You either cutting her off by not continuing or you still messing with her!
My response to #1. Thats not where my focus is on. The focus of my contention is your attempt of trying to tie my vetting to a hypothetical reaction by chicas.
"They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative."
A chica that loses a client can feel resentment, feel exploited, think a dude is not nice or not fair, an opportunist or manipulative just because they cant accept taking an L. That attitude doesnt necessarily have to come from a man using a test. A womans feelings may be her reality, but that doesnt necessarily make it a mans reality.
#2. I said it’s “potentially dangerous” because your either gonna encourage her to steal more(positive reinforcement) or she’s gonna feel punished(because no more money coming her way) because the cash flow slowed since the theft.
My response to #2. The problem with your assessment, is that there are more than the 2 outcomes than what you are offering. Which means your assessment is a false dilemma since there are more choices or more outcomes than what you provided. A thief doesnt need encouragement. Just opportunity.
#3. I didn’t call her a victim, I said she can lack accountability for herself and paint herself out as a victim and flat out lie. I gave the reason why, money and debt as the cause. I didn’t say that it’d occur, I said it’s a possibility and to prevent that I mitigate potential bs.
My response to #3. If the chicas stealing is not exposed or brought to her attention, there is no reason to flat out lie. She cant claim to be a victim if no one has accused her of anything. Thats another way of mitigating or avoiding a problem.
#4. “Prevention is primary” is a phrase used in healthcare and other human services. It’s to mitigate and avoid negative things before they even start. Rather the best cure, is to avoid the situation developing at all. So I see little reason to play mind games and test the ethics or poor people or folks who feel disenfranchised. You said it yourself also that some will put on a good show while harboring resentment.
My response to #4. I agree that one can mitigate things before they even start. And I agree one can avoid a situation from developing at all. One can do that by vetting/testing chicas. What one discovers may help avoid and mitigate a much bigger problem from happening down the road. Im not buying the victimization card ( they're poor, disenfranchised ) as a reason not to vet chicas. No, a guy can use whatever tools they deem necessary to vet chicas.
You are entitled to your opinion and your negative characterizations to describe what testing chicas supposedly entails ( playing mind games). But the reality of the situation. Your opinion assessments and conclusions are not necessarily based on facts. I dont even consider them substantive warnings that need to be heeded to.
Because everything is heavily based on hypotheticals and what If's. What could happen. Thats not necessarily going to be some guys reality, just because you put it out there. Thats why I asked you what is most likely going to happen? Whats more the rule rather than the exception? The potential negativity that you described involving cutting off a regular chica probably only happens 20% of the time.
At some point one may wonder, what are your true feelings towards guys that dont follow or practice the way you see things? Is there an undercurrent of resentment towards guys in relation to women? It seems so to me. You've said a lot of things to suggest that you are protecting womens interests.
Making up hypothetical scenarios of what could possibly happen if a chica decides to cause trouble. Men should not be walking on eggshells trying to avoid upsetting a chica. If a guy feels vetting/testing a chica will be helpful in evaluating who he is dealing with, then so be it. Do it. At the end of the day, it's his choice, not for him to meet some other mans expectations who may have a personal issue with testing/vetting chicas.
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You kinda went left and still didn’t answer the Question Murano. Don’t tell me what’s your issue with the question, just answer it, so we can establish a common ground to a point or we’ll talk around each other without addressing each others question.
I don’t care about a chicas nest interest or guys heeding my advice. My point to you was that a stranger can offering friendly advice based on some sort of logic. Doesn’t have to be scientific, they just offered advice. You can accept it, reject it or just remember it but not use it. More options sure… let’s establish here I don’t think anyone is limited to just one or two options unless it’s pay or don’t pay.
*Negotiations are not an option it’s an alternative form of payment.
My point was that “I weighted risk vs reward therefore I don’t need a strangers advice” is shared by people who are in unfortunate situations, due to bad luck, or ignorance, as well as those who kinda have things figured out. It’s common down to self-confidence and it’s advice from a stranger. You might ignore if the information is valid or not because you’re confident in your own competence.
How that is pro chica? Idk. I gave you a half assed response because you missed the point when I told you repeatedly what I was doing, and you admitted to not liking the question I asked and ignoring it. I only asked you the question using your own words, not twisting them, because I was asking you a question not putting words in your mouth.
There was a guy dealing with the police in my hotel, he didn’t want help from anyone(staff, guest, chicas), because he felt he was in control of the situation. I let him have it. I don’t think he went to jail, but I left before it was resolved. Having competence and self confidence will have you reject help and advice. Is that exactly smart to be dismissive? Varies by situation.
What I’m saying is rejecting advice or help from a stranger because you feel you weighed risk vs reward is something everyone does. It’s not unique to idiots, but it’s still rejecting information from someone with positive intentions for you. People ignore doomsday apocalypse predictions daily. Those people telling you to “save yourself” don’t come across as a whole as hateful, conspiracy theorist yes but not malevolent.
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Much clarity could have been made of you simply said “I vet chicas by seeing how they may go about taking money” do they do it blatantly with or without excuse like moto fare, or are sneaky and the money vanishes without me ever seeing it going missing. When you say you bait chicas I’m trying to figure out are you bored(I asked you this initially) or was there some rational reasoning. Just doing shit without reason isn’t exactly the wisest option to take which is why I asked you directly. It struck me as odd
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Travelguy I am not focused on what you are trying to get me to deflect to, when the elephant in the room is showing me that you have created a whole negative and contrived Straw Man argument, characterizing what testing a chica entails, and using descriptive language to make it look like some dude has an axe to grind with women.
1. Playing head games?
2. Wasting ones time?
3. Characterizing chicas as poor and disenfranchised?
4. Testing chicas instead of avoiding or mitigating things?
5. Encouraging a chica to steal more?
6. you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. ( I guess the bitch term was to make a mans intent more sinister.
7. Testing chicas because you are bored or just want to get a chica to steal?
Is that supposed to be the mindset of the man who tests a chica?
That is what I focused on. Testing chicas is not playing head games. It's not wasting ones time. A man is not exploiting poor, disenfranchised chicas. A man can avoid and mitigate problems by testing chicas. Testing chicas can expose thieves/dishonest chicas. If testing a chica reveals that it encourages a chica to steal more, then the test was a success. She cant steal more from the same guy that no longer deals with her. I dont think it's necessary to characterize a chica as a bitch, to insinuate that is how a dude is feeling about a chica that stole from him. Very disingenuous.
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Much clarity could have been made of you simply said “I vet chicas by seeing how they may go about taking money” do they do it blatantly with or without excuse like moto fare, or are sneaky and the money vanishes without me ever seeing it going missing. When you say you bait chicas I’m trying to figure out are you bored(I asked you this initially) or was there some rational reasoning. Just doing shit without reason isn’t exactly the wisest option to take which is why I asked you directly. It struck me as odd
Much clarity could have been made if you didnt have your own negative and biased assessment of vetting/testing chicas. You werent asking me direct questions for understanding or clarity. You asked specific questions to express your disdain for vetting/testing chicas. I know that, because you gave me your answers to what vetting/testing chicas means to you.
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue. You wanted to know what the issue was so I elaborated. That’s not making a strawman argument. I directly asked “do you repeat with chicas who steal from you yes or no?“ is there a reason “I see no problem leaving bait” so I also asked what’s the response to her taking the bait?
You never addressed the question just asking me questions when I asked you questions. That’s how a strawman was built. I inferred that you allow it. That’s fine. Not all men should listen to me or my beliefs. I’m not an expert, expat and it’s not my life or money. I was trying to show you that you’d reject advice from a stranger if you did your own risk vs rewards based around your own statements. I posed a direct question to you, perhaps I should have not quoted you, as you see I am not doing so. However I wanted you to know what I was talking about for reference. Not your intentions just the words you used. I’m asking a question not explaining your mindset, beliefs or intentions.
You can do your best to psychoanalyze me based around the questions I had and statements I made but I went from being pro chica, to painting a sinister picture of a guy with an ax to grind. Men can also be bitches it’s not exclusive to women and plenty men are a bitch. A thief is a bitch, they steal and don’t deserve positive connotations in my opinion but you don’t have to share my views.
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I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off.
They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Please give me some examples of how this scenario is supposed to play out? Chicas purposely allowed to steal, and them being cut off? Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done? Explain what happened that rises to the level of being potentially dangerous?
A guy drops a regular who he has a workable arrangement(maybe 1-3 sessions per week but it’s always LT unless you want it ST) with because she steals something. Chica could lie and say you hit her, raped her, stole from her, etc… because she may have had an immediate debt due, and doesn’t have you to rely on for financing. She may have spent the money before it even came. May be about to be beat up, arrested/extorted, evicted, no child items, whatever other justification as her rationale as to why she responded over the top for a money grab move. It can result in nothing but añ annoyance and sullied reputation to possibly legal consequences or you paying someone off. I’m sure things like this also occur with live in chicas who are unpredictable and erratic when a breakup occurs.
Issue could be avoided if he not playing intentionally character test with prostitutes and keeps it secure and professional with chica proofing.
So let me get this straight. If you dont test chicas, but you chica proof your domain......you can avoid all of that f--ked up behavior coming from a chica. It just vanishes into thin air.
Thats what I call the ostrich approach to potential problem-solving. To the contrary. I see the value in knowing the depth of what a chica is capable of. Not hide from it, so one can avoid or mitigate an unpleasant outcome that they dont want to deal with.
Many of men have discovered things about chicas through tests, observation, word of mouth or other means. Used that information to save them a lot of grief, drama and money.
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue.
Im not buying that sir. You asked me questions and then give me your limited choices for me to choose from. I call that using selective bait. A genuine inquiry towards understanding would have been you asking the question, and wait for the answer. Not you asking a question, and then offering 2 or more choices of yours for me to choose from.
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I would say you’re playing a potentially dangerous game with your thought experiment by purposefully allowing chicas to still then cutting them off.
They could feel justified in the theft and feel resentment you played them despite not taking accountability because you’re a rich gringo exploiting them and aren’t nice or fair but an opportunist and manipulative.
Please give me some examples of how this scenario is supposed to play out? Chicas purposely allowed to steal, and them being cut off? Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done? Explain what happened that rises to the level of being potentially dangerous?
A guy drops a regular who he has a workable arrangement(maybe 1-3 sessions per week but it’s always LT unless you want it ST) with because she steals something. Chica could lie and say you hit her, raped her, stole from her, etc… because she may have had an immediate debt due, and doesn’t have you to rely on for financing. She may have spent the money before it even came. May be about to be beat up, arrested/extorted, evicted, no child items, whatever other justification as her rationale as to why she responded over the top for a money grab move. It can result in nothing but añ annoyance and sullied reputation to possibly legal consequences or you paying someone off. I’m sure things like this also occur with live in chicas who are unpredictable and erratic when a breakup occurs.
Issue could be avoided if he not playing intentionally character test with prostitutes and keeps it secure and professional with chica proofing.
So let me get this straight. If you dont test chicas, but you chica proof your domain......you can avoid all of that f--ked up behavior coming from a chica. It just vanishes into thin air.
Thats what I call the ostrich approach to potential problem-solving. To the contrary. I see the value in knowing the depth of what a chica is capable of. Not hide from it, so one can avoid or mitigate an unpleasant outcome that they dont want to deal with.
Many of men have discovered things about chicas through tests, observation, word of mouth or other means. Used that information to save them a lot of grief, drama and money.
Well let’s differentiate what could and would/will means. I only used something could potentially occur, you asked what could potentially occur and to provide an example. You don’t get to decide you don’t like the example and that it’s a strawman arguement, don’t ask the question. I said it could potentially happen and gave rationale as to how/why it would occur. I didn’t said it would/will.
I didn’t say that chica proofing your house prevent issues. I don’t think allowing a chica to purposefully steal, then repeating with her prevents issues or reduces them aswell, it might in fact increase the likelihood of it occuring. Those are unrelated things also with no casual relationship. If a chica does something I don’t like, I don’t repeat with her, or if I do it’s at another time/visit. It’s too many chicas and I have a finite amount of money, so I have no issue thinning a roster and rebuilding. You don’t have to take my approach.
Again once you said you did this as a vetting process I had no issue. I have no issue with a guy vetting a chic how he wants to as it’s his own time and money. You can’t point me to where I said I’m anti vetting. I’m against putting yourself in a compromising situation. When you explained you were doing a vetting and not boredom/entertainment I left that point alone. Just because I disagree with something doesn’t make it wrong I just would not do it myself.
You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue.
Im not buying that sir. You asked me questions and then give me your limited choices for me to choose from. I call that using selective bait. A genuine inquiry towards understanding would have been you asking the question, and wait for the answer. Not you asking a question, and then offering 2 or more choices of yours for me to choose from.
The limited choices were “you allow a chica to steal and repeat with her aka yes, or no, you don’t she failed your test” You could have answered with context or a paragraph as an explaination but repeating with a chica either happens(eventually) or it doesn’t. you flat out said you didn’t like the question, and went off to talk about something else.
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue. You wanted to know what the issue was so I elaborated. That’s not making a strawman argument. I directly asked “do you repeat with chicas who steal from you yes or no?“ is there a reason “I see no problem leaving bait” so I also asked what’s the response to her taking the bait?
In the very beginning I gave my reason for testing/using bait for chicas.
I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
Did I say anything about testing chicas because I was bored? No, I didnt. Did i say anything about wanting to see chicas steal? No I didnt. I clearly said, my test was to see if a chica respects my stuff. And I talked about the ones that consistently pass the test, are the ones that are kept.
You came on the scene and tried to turn it around and make testing a chica into a negative. Even though what I provided was a simplistic POV. You didnt have to ask me what using bait meant, or give me multiple choice answers. All you had to do is focus on what I said about a chica respecting my stuff. And how I regard honesty and loyalty from a chica.
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue. You wanted to know what the issue was so I elaborated. That’s not making a strawman argument. I directly asked “do you repeat with chicas who steal from you yes or no?“ is there a reason “I see no problem leaving bait” so I also asked what’s the response to her taking the bait?
In the very beginning I gave my reason for testing/using bait for chicas.
I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
Did I say anything about testing chicas because I was bored? No, I didnt. Did i say anything about wanting to see chicas steal? No I didnt. I clearly said, my test was to see if a chica respects my stuff. And I talked about the ones that consistently pass the test, are the ones that are kept.
You came on the scene and tried to turn it around and make testing a chica into a negative. Even though what I provided was a simplistic POV. You didnt have to ask me what using bait meant, or give me multiple choice answers. All you had to do is focus on what I said about a chica respecting my stuff. And how I regard honesty and loyalty from a chica.
Then say, “I don’t repeat with them”, not what a company does, what you yourself do. Say, I answered it before reread it, not “I don’t want to answer that question, let me ask you a question or list observations” Again the purpose which I explained was to show you, that people would reject advice from a stranger. You asked me questions I answered half heartedly because as I told you what the point was initiallly, “to show you that it’s not unique to reject advice be it good or bad, after risk vs rewards are accessed” that was my primary point not responding to questions that you asked.
I pretty much said “if I suggested that form of vetting was bad you’d reject it, because you weighed out risk vs reward.” I could come with 10-39 articles of how it can go wrong but it wouldn’t matter because your mind is made up. You asked how the scenario would play out, that’s the only reason we got off topic and mentioned a scenario that doesn’t sound like you(you didn’t want to repeat yourself or answer the question about how’d you’d respond to dealing with a chic after she steals. You asked what the cut off is and the response, I don’t know how you would cut a chic off because you didn’t say what you would do personally, so I had to explain an action(dripping a Chica) that can take many forms. Over 16 situations can play out, i described the horror story most want to avoid, and you dislike it as ultra pessimism or whatever, but I said you want to avoid a heacache and described said headache, admitting that it didn’t exactly have to play out that way. The information wouldn’t matter because from your experience and risk vs reward judgment, you good.
So again if a person mind is made up, it’s made up. Outside information won’t matter because risk vs reward is made up, in your case your risk a little money, but the reward is information. No one is gonna convince you to change from that. Nothing wrong with that, just saying that mentality is shared by idiots and smart people. It’s self confidence in your competence in what you’re doing. It’s not about being smart or wise but self confident.
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Well let’s differentiate what could and would/will means. I only used something could potentially occur, you asked what could potentially occur and to provide an example. You don’t get to decide you don’t like the example and that it’s a strawman arguement, don’t ask the question. I said it could potentially happen and gave rationale as to how/why it would occur. I didn’t said it would/will.
I didnt only ask you what could potentially occur. The meat was "Im particularly interested in how the chicas are supposedly being cut off? Who cut them off? When and how was that done?"'
The point I was making is that you concocted a contrived scenario from my statement. By insinuating that I would be cutting a chica off that I caught stealing. I never said anything about cutting a chica off. You also insinuated that a chica could lie. Well the only reason why a chica would lie is because some dude made an accusation. Thats where your Straw Man argument comes into play. Because none of that fill in stuff you added represented what I said.
I didn’t say that chica proofing your house prevent issues.
A Non sequiter response sir. Prevent and avoid are not the same.
I don’t think allowing a chica to purposefully steal, then repeating with her prevents issues or reduces them aswell, it might in fact increase the likelihood of it occuring. Those are unrelated things also with no casual relationship. If a chica does something I don’t like, I don’t repeat with her, or if I do it’s at another time/visit. It’s too many chicas and I have a finite amount of money, so I have no issue thinning a roster and rebuilding. You don’t have to take my approach.
I agree that repeating with a chick may increase the likelihood of it occurring. Thats why one doesnt rely on just one option. A guy can still test/vet a chick, and he can also tighten up securing his stuff. He can phase her out or cut her off. Someone not taking your approach, is already presumed & understood.
Again once you said you did this as a vetting process I had no issue. I have no issue with a guy vetting a chic how he wants to as it’s his own time and money. You can’t point me to where I said I’m anti vetting. I’m against putting yourself in a compromising situation. When you explained you were doing a vetting and not boredom/entertainment I left that point alone. Just because I disagree with something doesn’t make it wrong I just would not do it myself.
Travelguy vetting chicas was always the foundation for testing a chica. Typing the word vet was not necessary, because it was already presupposed. In addition, I gave adequate context to go by. I said , To see if a chica respects my stuff. None of that translates to doing testing/vetting a chica out of boredom or some guy justs wants to see a chica steal.
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Then say, “I don’t repeat with them”, not what a company does, what you yourself do. Say, I answered it before reread it, not “I don’t want to answer that question, let me ask you a question or list observations”
I didnt say only companies, I said entities as well. It's already presupposed that I endorse what Im saying for myself without having to say it. Other than that, I will answer questions depending on how I see fit.
Again the purpose which I explained was to show you, that people would reject advice from a stranger. You asked me questions I answered half heartedly because as I told you what the point was initiallly, “to show you that it’s not unique to reject advice be it good or bad, after risk vs rewards are accessed” that was my primary point not responding to questions that you asked.
Noted! I have no response for or against that particular POV whatever you are talking about. I chose to focus on what I wanted to address.
Over 16 situations can play out, i described the horror story most want to avoid, and you dislike it as ultra pessimism or whatever, but I said you want to avoid a heacache and described said headache, admitting that it didn’t exactly have to play out that way. The information wouldn’t matter because from your experience and risk vs reward judgment, you good.
I felt it was appropriate to give some balance. Especially since you was not speaking in generalities, but focused specifically on what I said being potentially dangerous. Thats why I addressed the issue of you making up details that may not even apply to me, to make your POV stick in my regard.
I especially paid attention to the part where you alluded to or implied that a chica was being accused of stealing, and then proceeded to lie about it. Or go on the defensive for being cut off. None of that had anything to do with me vetting or testing a chica.
I also noted that you felt that testing a chica was a waste of time. Playing head games. That it's probably being done out of boredom. Subtle accusations like that, Im not going to let that slide.
What would have made more sense is if you kept your focus general, not aimed at trying to change the context of what I said to fit a contrived narrative. Example : It could be potentially dangerous for a guy if a chica is accused of stealing and he cuts her off. You can even come up with a bunch of scenarios. Instead you directed your focus towards what I said, and then added pieces that I didnt say or do to make your point. If you would have presented it as a general perspective, instead of the way you did it, your presentation would of been fine.
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No confrontation, you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. Like you said before you leave it out, it’s gone and you stop doing business with her. The only way she finds it out is she pieces it together, or you explicitly tell her later. Again her rationale is because she spent future money, it’s when she tries to return and you rebuff her, is when an issue can occur.
I’ve seen chicas both Dominican and Haitians, get angry, curse and threaten guys when they regular johns stopping f--king with them because they did some flaw shit like an 1000 peso up charge because of the kids needing help. They attack the guys character, pockets and other shit
I don't see how.....unless the guy sees her in the street, and starts bringing up that business in front of everybody. How do you know the reason for the 'attacks' that you saw?
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You've seen chicas get angry, curse and threaten guys. Attack their character, pockets and other shit. And how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
I've literally never seen this type of dramatic ending in my 15yr Sosua travels.
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No confrontation, you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. Like you said before you leave it out, it’s gone and you stop doing business with her. The only way she finds it out is she pieces it together, or you explicitly tell her later. Again her rationale is because she spent future money, it’s when she tries to return and you rebuff her, is when an issue can occur.
I’ve seen chicas both Dominican and Haitians, get angry, curse and threaten guys when they regular johns stopping f--king with them because they did some flaw shit like an 1000 peso up charge because of the kids needing help. They attack the guys character, pockets and other shit
I don't see how.....unless the guy sees her in the street, and starts bringing up that business in front of everybody. How do you know the reason for the 'attacks' that you saw?
I I lived in Europa for 2 weeks before so I seen some of the same dudes repeatedly. The guys didn’t have to bring it up publicly, chicas was venting because they guys didn’t repeat with them and preferred to choose other people. Just asked why chic was tripping. A chica can yell maybe 5 different full sentences in under 2-3 minutes, and it doesn’t have to be fully coherent or make sense. I’ll definitely ask “why shorty spazzing so hard?” I had Haitian chics go nationalist and say “so you like Dominicans now!” If I stop messing with them and take my services elsewhere after a negative experience, doesn’t have to be a spectacle for the world to see on blast, they’ll say it outside infront of table8, doesn’t have to be a scene in Bailee’s/rumba, is what I mean. I don’t think speaking on business in the street is the only way it happens, maybe the most common. Not every chic is cardi B ratchet, nor is every female meek and feminine.
You've seen chicas get angry, curse and threaten guys. Attack their character, pockets and other shit. And how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
I've literally never seen this type of dramatic ending in my 15yr Sosua travels.
seriously wish there was a way to just upload WhatsApp voice clips, so I can just have you listen to guys explaining why they had chics be rude and insulting them behind money and payment. “You poor that’s why you pay me so little, and the other guys pay me well. You’re only here because you can’t get women back home. Men pay me 500usd for the weekend(likely a lie and exaggerated because chics be a 6.5 and below facially) and you’re getting a steep discount so I want my money later…” or if you’re bored and have an abundance of time. Not everyone moves the same and I have no issue investigating why something happens so I’m hearing a guy tell a story, and a chic tell a story at times that’s different(related or unrelated) one guy didn’t smash but entertained a chica who then wanted payment for time spent that didn’t result in a smash(guy said she had an odor while she said he prevented her from getting other clients) and that worse case she’d get the cops involved and repeated it more than once to dude but he never had them come looking for him but was paranoid his first week. Majority of these issues common themes were that the chica got paid and wanted more money, or expected more money to come in the future. Maybe guys pillowed talked and promised the world before getting off the plane, and pivoted, that part I don’t know.
It’s just words I didn’t see the chicas attack the guys physically, but there is a video online of a dark skinned Dominican guy, go from getting yelled at, to a chica attacking him and having a knife drawn on him, despite him not touching her, or going back and forth as he’s just standing there listening to her rant, and she hyped herself up and escalated the situation. It was based around money in the casino hotel in SD. It’s some unpredictable stuff that occurs but money is the motive. If they’ll do there own like that, I’m sure some tourist get shit while others get away with murder with minimum headache.
I should have just uploaded and archived a list of sosua drama videos when I was there. Would be a lot easier if stories were online and organized vs me recounting another guy’s experiences.
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No confrontation, you literally just cut the bitch off after she steals. Like you said before you leave it out, it’s gone and you stop doing business with her. The only way she finds it out is she pieces it together, or you explicitly tell her later. Again her rationale is because she spent future money, it’s when she tries to return and you rebuff her, is when an issue can occur.
I’ve seen chicas both Dominican and Haitians, get angry, curse and threaten guys when they regular johns stopping f--king with them because they did some flaw shit like an 1000 peso up charge because of the kids needing help. They attack the guys character, pockets and other shit
I don't see how.....unless the guy sees her in the street, and starts bringing up that business in front of everybody. How do you know the reason for the 'attacks' that you saw?
Tex that is a valid point. TG is trying to claim, those chicks cursed, threatened and all the rest of it, because those guys stopped f--king with those chicks. Thats it?
I think the real reason for those chicks behavior is because those particular women were toxic. And they would have manifested that behavior even if they werent cut off. Those guys main problem was about f--king with the wrong women. Not about them cutting women off for bad behavior.
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You've seen chicas get angry, curse and threaten guys. Attack their character, pockets and other shit. And how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
I've literally never seen this type of dramatic ending in my 15yr Sosua travels.
I asked TG how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
I dont recall getting a response to that. In most cases when you have chicas that were a guys regular going off to the extent that they would cause all of that drama that TG talked about, the problem points to the character of those particular women. And one can consider the character of the guy that chooses women that behave like those particular women.
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You've seen chicas get angry, curse and threaten guys. Attack their character, pockets and other shit. And how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
I've literally never seen this type of dramatic ending in my 15yr Sosua travels.
I asked TG how often does that manifest itself, as opposed to drama free endings?
I dont recall getting a response to that. In most cases when you have chicas that were a guys regular going off to the extent that they would cause all of that drama that TG talked about, the problem points to the character of those particular women. And one can consider the character of the guy that chooses women that behave like those particular women.
I didn’t answer your question because I told you, I would stop quoting you and get to the point. We went over this, I asked you a question and you responded by asking me questions. I told you that it was pointless because it wasn’t important to what I wanted to show you, but would answer it anyways just to get you to respond to the initial question. The second you made it clear you didn’t want to do that, I abandoned that approach, and told you I would talk to you without quotes so we could “address the elephant in the room” Murano I could respond to your questions endlessly and we’d be on page 25 with nothing accomplished. I’d be answering your questions half halfhearted still asking you the same initial questions reiterating my point and question which I did 4-5 times consecutively already(the scenerio i told and choosing to qoute part of you like 5-10% was intentional. it wasnt meant to be painted as a general question, it was specifically catered to you, using your words to form logic(you disagreeing with the logic was the point), askong you directly what would you do. not whag other guys should do. what would you do? you askes would could happen. that was the point of me telling you more than 3 times now what my intentions were from the beginning.
you won my guy and helped me pass time at work. I dont want to kept responding to your questions because if you asked me what COULD happen i used the words possibility, could, maybe, and will paint a potential scenario discussing what exacrtly im talking about. I never said it would happen, just that it could happen. you then try to hold me to that as if im certain it would occur when im responding to your question but trying to limit the wordiness.
if ask “have i ever seen it” and i respond yes, you cant saying you dont lime the answer. i gave you what i saw and heard. I don’t try to interpret the cause and effect because that wasn’t asked of me. You asked have I have I ever seen it. If you asked have I ever seen a man and women fight and Sosua, I can respond yes or no, I don’t have to go in depth or give an explanation. I could but i dont add my 2 cents because i dont know for certain everything that went into it, just that it actually happened and I seen it. if a person askes if you ever seen someone have a freebie or 1000 peso or less sessions with a 8 or better as a rookie some may say yes, some may say no. Some may have an explanation to the yes or no, and some keep it one worded response. Do you believe in electromagnetic waves? Obviously we never seen them before with our own eyes but we know they exist. You either have to see it to believe it, or not or you find it highly unrealistic. It’s unrealistic “to fly to the DR to come to a hooker town and get arrested behind murder” but that happened too. Found it hard to believe, didn’t see it and it’s never mentioned. However you’re able to google it to see if it’s real and if it ever happened.
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A few reason where you may end up with a drama situation,One a chica you thought you vetted and vibed but goes balistic and turned to get the exstra money out of you,,, Cou;ld be a long time repaet you dumped or cut off,, the loss of income and they are hurt because you f--ked them over or droped them for an other chica,, you get too deep with these chicas shit can go south !!Or your considered the Gringo novio, there daddy or king figure enough said,Vets will know what im talking about !
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I've seen more of this ratchet drama from the young chicas lately. Some have become like North American bitches, self entitled c**ts! Think their shit don't stink (blame the internet). Other times its the guys fault, when a chica sees that you were just fronting and "playing" her, she goes ballistic. I never offer more than I'm prepared to give now, or in the future, keep it strictly business. Had my share of GF's over the years, but I NEVER lead them to think it would lead to more. My 2 cents.
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All this talk just know Sosua is garbage I tell everybody to go there don't want a certain type of dude in spots I go to.
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Boils down to let them stay ,in there lane plain and simple !
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I never tell anyone about Sosua unless they ask me,most of my buddies are married. Sosua is what you make of it. I love the DR. sun, palm trees, people and beaches, whats not to like! The cherry on top is its easy to find a sweet chica to share your bed. For those that think it's dead, that's ok , I still enjoy it.
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Besides the Hoes Sosua is far from dead, man the traffic on highway 5 across from playjero is murder traffic jams during the noontime hour Pedro Cilante full and stoped,, its the high season now many expats, snow birds,vacationers the town is full,very busy,, think the DR reached its ten million visitor!
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Sosua is not dead! It is more than chicas, it's a vibe I like, fresh sea air, natural grown food, what I cook tastes allot better than at home because it's organic. I'm not looking for that "bad bitch" 8-9 that haven't been seen in SU for 5 years, never did. 5-6 F**k bunnies is my target, and snag a7-8 on their off days, 3000 max.
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I think TRAVELGUY makes valid points.
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue. You wanted to know what the issue was so I elaborated. That’s not making a strawman argument. I directly asked “do you repeat with chicas who steal from you yes or no?“ is there a reason “I see no problem leaving bait” so I also asked what’s the response to her taking the bait?
In the very beginning I gave my reason for testing/using bait for chicas.
I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
Did I say anything about testing chicas because I was bored? No, I didnt. Did i say anything about wanting to see chicas steal? No I didnt. I clearly said, my test was to see if a chica respects my stuff. And I talked about the ones that consistently pass the test, are the ones that are kept.
You came on the scene and tried to turn it around and make testing a chica into a negative. Even though what I provided was a simplistic POV. You didnt have to ask me what using bait meant, or give me multiple choice answers. All you had to do is focus on what I said about a chica respecting my stuff. And how I regard honesty and loyalty from a chica.
The question is why do chicas Steal, Hmmmm is that they think your ritch do they steal more from white Americans and canaidians verses the brothers, are they that desperte, did they learn to steal from other chicas, is there any cocqueces for there Actions, have you every had a trusted chica steal from you,i did one after 7 years one after 5 years is it the have and have nots mentality,,, now im dealing with a semi pro,been with her for 2 years,, i still guard my shit even thou she has not taken a thing !
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue. You wanted to know what the issue was so I elaborated. That’s not making a strawman argument. I directly asked “do you repeat with chicas who steal from you yes or no?“ is there a reason “I see no problem leaving bait” so I also asked what’s the response to her taking the bait?
In the very beginning I gave my reason for testing/using bait for chicas.
I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
Did I say anything about testing chicas because I was bored? No, I didnt. Did i say anything about wanting to see chicas steal? No I didnt. I clearly said, my test was to see if a chica respects my stuff. And I talked about the ones that consistently pass the test, are the ones that are kept.
You came on the scene and tried to turn it around and make testing a chica into a negative. Even though what I provided was a simplistic POV. You didnt have to ask me what using bait meant, or give me multiple choice answers. All you had to do is focus on what I said about a chica respecting my stuff. And how I regard honesty and loyalty from a chica.
The question is why do chicas Steal, Hmmmm is that they think your ritch do they steal more from white Americans and canaidians verses the brothers, are they that desperte, did they learn to steal from other chicas, is there any cocqueces for there Actions, have you every had a trusted chica steal from you,i did one after 7 years one after 5 years is it the have and have nots mentality,,, now im dealing with a semi pro,been with her for 2 years,, i still guard my shit even thou she has not taken a thing !
Almost all chicas will steal from you if they get the opportunity. Even long time trusted chicas.
Don't ever totally let your guard down with any of them.
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Truer words have never been spoken, Never let your guard down!!! The stories I've heard from some expats about their live in chicas stealing shit are crazy. The one thing they all have in common? They are cheap guys, the ones that give them an allowance every week, no problems. I know an old German guy,(72), lives there, gives his Haitian chica (5) 25,000 p/month, and he pays for every thing else she needs so she can send money home.To the chica mind, not paying her what she feels she deserves is reason enough to steal from you.BE ON GUARD!
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i didnt tip a girl one time and im fairly certain she took the tv remote out of spite. It was for the main TV in our airbnb... cost me $25 bucks from the host.
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You used the term bait, reread what I quoted. I asked what was the purpose of baiting chicas, was it boredom or something else. You didn’t respond vetting until later. I told you having a rationale behind it is cool, but if you were doing things just to do it, it could be a headache to issue. You wanted to know what the issue was so I elaborated. That’s not making a strawman argument. I directly asked “do you repeat with chicas who steal from you yes or no?“ is there a reason “I see no problem leaving bait” so I also asked what’s the response to her taking the bait?
In the very beginning I gave my reason for testing/using bait for chicas.
I see nothing wrong with putting out a little bait to see if a chica respects your stuff. There are companies and entities that do stuff like that to test the honesty or loyalty of their staff. The ones that consistently pass the test, they keep.
Did I say anything about testing chicas because I was bored? No, I didnt. Did i say anything about wanting to see chicas steal? No I didnt. I clearly said, my test was to see if a chica respects my stuff. And I talked about the ones that consistently pass the test, are the ones that are kept.
You came on the scene and tried to turn it around and make testing a chica into a negative. Even though what I provided was a simplistic POV. You didnt have to ask me what using bait meant, or give me multiple choice answers. All you had to do is focus on what I said about a chica respecting my stuff. And how I regard honesty and loyalty from a chica.
The question is why do chicas Steal, Hmmmm is that they think your ritch do they steal more from white Americans and canaidians verses the brothers, are they that desperte, did they learn to steal from other chicas, is there any cocqueces for there Actions, have you every had a trusted chica steal from you,i did one after 7 years one after 5 years is it the have and have nots mentality,,, now im dealing with a semi pro,been with her for 2 years,, i still guard my shit even thou she has not taken a thing !
Almost all chicas will steal from you if they get the opportunity. Even long time trusted chicas.
Don't ever totally let your guard down with any of them.
100 % Correct on that one,they would steal flies from a blind spider !
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i didnt tip a girl one time and im fairly certain she took the tv remote out of spite. It was for the main TV in our airbnb... cost me $25 bucks from the host.
Chic was salty I tipped 300 peso instead of 500 peso for sub par service. Tipped her friend more. She stole a charging block.
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Makes me wonder if anyone ever flipped the script and stole something from a chica?
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i didnt tip a girl one time and im fairly certain she took the tv remote out of spite. It was for the main TV in our airbnb... cost me $25 bucks from the host.
I've had chicas steal little things before, I also had a remote go missing once after a chica left, found it behind the couch, LOL.
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I had chicas leave things behind meaning era rings small ankel bracelet's small shit, always go over your smash pad with a fine tooth comb,, espicaly if you have a few trusted repeats,, you dont want a session go south when chica finds a left over piece of jewerly hehe !
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I had chicas leave things behind meaning era rings small ankel bracelet's small shit, always go over your smash pad with a fine tooth comb,, espicaly if you have a few trusted repeats,, you dont want a session go south when chica finds a left over piece of jewerly hehe !
I have fell for the old trick, I lost my bracelet at your apartment line. But once they get to apartment, they never even look for it.
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I had chicas leave things behind meaning era rings small ankel bracelet's small shit, always go over your smash pad with a fine tooth comb,, espicaly if you have a few trusted repeats,, you dont want a session go south when chica finds a left over piece of jewerly hehe !
I have fell for the old trick, I lost my bracelet at your apartment line. But once they get to apartment, they never even look for it.
They are trying to cause shit, ST's leave stuff on purpose if they think or know you have a regular GF just to f**k you up. I always clean before GF stays. I think they are trying to take out the competion , jajaja
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Topic turned out to be highly informative from a mongering perspective, and as an added bonus, we got a bird's eye view analysis of the dynamics of human nature, both of the hoes, and the hoe whisperers. Personally, I love the shit out of this board. But that's just me, YMMV. Sending respect and good energy to all those of you whole love to f--k a hole that appreciates you f--king it and that doesn't make you feel unduly taken advantage of.
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Topic turned out to be highly informative from a mongering perspective, and as an added bonus, we got a bird's eye view analysis of the dynamics of human nature, both of the hoes, and the hoe whisperers. Personally, I love the shit out of this board. But that's just me, YMMV. Sending respect and good energy to all those of you whole love to f--k a hole that appreciates you f--king it and that doesn't make you feel unduly taken advantage of.
I am glad you like this board. The opinions here are diverse because of the age range of posters, I'm one of the oldest, 68. So my views differ from most. I love to make a woman orgasm, sex is not good if they do not!!! That's why I F**K older women, they know how to get their orgasm and will tell you! Nothing better than cumming at the same time!!!!!
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Topic turned out to be highly informative from a mongering perspective, and as an added bonus, we got a bird's eye view analysis of the dynamics of human nature, both of the hoes, and the hoe whisperers. Personally, I love the shit out of this board. But that's just me, YMMV. Sending respect and good energy to all those of you whole love to f--k a hole that appreciates you f--king it and that doesn't make you feel unduly taken advantage of.
I am glad you like this board. The opinions here are diverse because of the age range of posters, I'm one of the oldest, 68. So my views differ from most. I love to make a woman orgasm, sex is not good if they do not!!! That's why I F**K older women, they know how to get their orgasm and will tell you! Nothing better than cumming at the same time!!!!!
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Truer words have never been spoken, Never let your guard down!!! The stories I've heard from some expats about their live in chicas stealing shit are crazy. The one thing they all have in common? They are cheap guys, the ones that give them an allowance every week, no problems. I know an old German guy,(72), lives there, gives his Haitian chica (5) 25,000 p/month, and he pays for every thing else she needs so she can send money home.To the chica mind, not paying her what she feels she deserves is reason enough to steal from you.BE ON GUARD!
Yup i knew this Hatian chica that i got to f--k on the side ,her American Dr was sending her $3000 usd per month !!
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I'm thinking...it all depends on who you ask ? Pretty sure this police chief wish he would've gone to the Su instead.
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I'm thinking...it all depends on who you ask ? Pretty sure this police chief wish he would've gone to the Su instead.
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The shit far from dead
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I'm thinking...it all depends on who you ask ? Pretty sure this police chief wish he would've gone to the Su instead.
Wow. I've seen this dude before. That's a town over from my hometown lmao. I assure you, this one was 100% politically motivated.
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I'm thinking...it all depends on who you ask ? Pretty sure this police chief wish he would've gone to the Su instead.
Wow. I've seen this dude before. That's a town over from my hometown lmao. I assure you, this one was 100% politically motivated.
You sure ? Article said he communicated online in advance to setup the session, showed up and gave $120 for pre-agreed sexual services. He got caught fair and square from what I can see. Was he supposed to get a pass ?
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I'm thinking...it all depends on who you ask ? Pretty sure this police chief wish he would've gone to the Su instead.
Yeah Damn!!! Still can’t believe that this is a crime in the majority area in in U.S.
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I'm thinking...it all depends on who you ask ? Pretty sure this police chief wish he would've gone to the Su instead.
Yeah Damn!!! Still can’t believe that this is a crime in the majority area in in U.S.
With an option to go abroad where it’s cheaper and legal, P4P in America is too risky and expensive
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For sure why take a chance, forget about street walkers or paid escorts,, mabey AMPs but like posted legal and cheaper to zip down the DR for some P4P !
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This guy is a fool, just because he's a cop. I grew up in a major port city on the Great Lakes, hooker Hotels and strip clubs all around the docks, for the most part the cops left them alone, unless there was trouble,(MURDER). These place had the meanest MOTHER f**KING bouncers you ever seen. My older cousin took me to the Bayview Hotel at 14 to get me a hooker.
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Topic turned out to be highly informative from a mongering perspective, and as an added bonus, we got a bird's eye view analysis of the dynamics of human nature, both of the hoes, and the hoe whisperers. Personally, I love the shit out of this board. But that's just me, YMMV. Sending respect and good energy to all those of you whole love to f--k a hole that appreciates you f--king it and that doesn't make you feel unduly taken advantage of.
I am glad you like this board. The opinions here are diverse because of the age range of posters, I'm one of the oldest, 68. So my views differ from most. I love to make a woman orgasm, sex is not good if they do not!!! That's why I F**K older women, they know how to get their orgasm and will tell you! Nothing better than cumming at the same time!!!!!
If a chica doesn't orgasm Im not satisfied
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Fore sure, when that pussy clamps down"its the best"!!!Been with Haitians that had that that " murder pussy" move to make you "POP", and sure it was good, but if you can get past it, and make her cum!!! It is the best!!!