One hoe whisperer's perspective on toto economics...

[airportlizard]

A hoe whisperer can complain about how much toto pricing has gone up, hell I'm first in line for that. But we also gotta take into consideration that 1 USD in 2014 only bought you about 44 DOP. As of today, 1 USD buys you about 58 DOP. Said differently, a toto that one used to pay 1500 DOP for back in 2014 would now cost about 2000 DOP. So the options still are: pay current fair price, drop to even lower category, or take "matters" into  one's own hand, thus skipping the expense (and thus the toto) altogether. But of course, one can gripe regardless - and should. That's still free, not to mention highly therapeutic.

Long live the toto

[jd66]

So under that theory if the DOP drops which it will at some point so should the price right
But we all know that price will never go back down

But we also know the prices the putas are attempting to command these days is not 2,000 DOP either.   If they would increase their prices 30% for the increase in the DOP that's probably justified but clearly that is not what is going on in Sosua currently.

The price of pussy should mirror what the market rates are.  And it is not 6,000 RD plus like some of you are paying

The problem isn't with the increase in the DOP it is the weak ass dudes that cave in to the putas demands.
Sosua chicas especially try to get a price that is way higher than market and as soon as the weak boys start paying those inflated rates it effectively sets a new market for Sosua that isn't really reality.

Overpay a chica once and it isn't long before every chica in town knows what you pay and your stuck pretty much forever.

Dudes will use many methods to justify overpaying for things.  Just own it.

[airportlizard]

Point well taken. But I think you mean if the DOP RISES against the dollar (less DOP's per USD's, over the long term the trend is always more DOP's per USD's). You're correct, chica expectations on the toto price would not drop if the DOP rose, but as you passionately ( and rightly alluded to ) it's up to us the hoe whisperers to keep them in line, by holding the line.

[murano2010]

Weak ass dudes are dudes that havent learned how to adapt to a flexible market whose prices are not etched in stone.    If a dude chooses to over pay thats on him.   That does not automatically mean the next guy is subject to pay a super inflated price, because of what some previous guys paid.   Or because some particular chicks want more.   

There are dozens of choices in Sosua.  No man should be pining over chicks with high prices, or pissed off because some other dudes f--ked chicks that they want too. 

Some chicks quote high, but that doesnt mean that is their bottom line.  There is a distinct difference between demands without budging vs hopes and expectations when it comes to chicas pricing themselves.   In most cases, the latter is the case. 

Chicks are just hoping for a big pay day.   Too many numnuts walk around with the notion that a chica quoting an inflated price is her raising the market price, when that may not be the case at all.   She just may not want to miss out on a big pay day, if the guy is an over payer.   Just because one is told something, doesnt make it the price.

Do you know how many chicas dropped their prices almost immediately, the moment a guy declined or hesitated?   Or chicks that followed up later to come back to accept an offer they refused earlier? 

The DR is a country where people negotiate.  And if there is no meeting of the minds at 1st try, you move on and find somebody else that will provide the service and your price.   What muggs need to stop doing is blaming inflation on what other men do, and start taking responsibility for maybe what the real problem is, their entitlement mentality and/or lack of negotiation skills.   

Another responsibility of the monger is to establish regulars, so one doesnt have to complain about chicas raising prices or providing poor service.  Or worrying about how other men spend their money.    The chick I had the other night was an old regular.  I gave her 3000 for ST. 

Maybe she will expect more from some other cat.  I dont give a shit about what some other man pays.  His business does not affect how I handle my business.   He may pay $100, but he doesnt know I paid 3000 pesos.   Thats between the chick and myself.  Thats how Sosua business works. 

Dozens of men paying a particular chick 3000 doesnt bring the price down, nor does dudes paying $100 to a bunch of chicas brings their cost of pussy up.  Thats a flawed assumption, not necessarily a fact.   There is individual responsibility involved in what the cost is.    Im in charge of pursuing the services and price from the provider I negotiate with.  And so is the next man.

[jd66]

Wrong Murano but I wouldn't expect you to understand how it works even though you claim to be a long timer.

But I wouldn't expect someone that really isn't in the mix of what's going on to know either
Gotta participate and if you are not really into the game which you clearly are not you can't really know what's really up.

[airportlizard]

I don't blame inflation for what some uninformed, thirsty dude does with his money. I convert everything to USD in my mind. In my first trip to to DR back in the late 90's, I paid no more then 35 USD for ST, now I stick to 40 or 45, if she's worth it to me. Experienced or not, that's what I do. My only point was that there are dudes that may be holding on to DOP pricing from years ago, and boo hoo hoo about it. That's all. That's the group I was addressing. Neither one of you fine gentleman needs my advice, I have read enough of your posts to both know that and to respect your level of insight and experience on the topic. I like to think that I never stop learning, and feel I will die the day that I do. Appreciate both your responses.

[justin_credible]

Weak ass dudes are dudes that havent learned how to adapt to a flexible market whose prices are not etched in stone.    If a dude chooses to over pay thats on him.   That does not automatically mean the next guy is subject to pay a super inflated price, because of what some previous guys paid.   Or because some particular chicks want more.   

There are dozens of choices in Sosua.  No man should be pining over chicks with high prices, or pissed off because some other dudes f--ked chicks that they want too. 

Some chicks quote high, but that doesnt mean that is their bottom line.  There is a distinct difference between demands without budging vs hopes and expectations when it comes to chicas pricing themselves.   In most cases, the latter is the case. 

Chicks are just hoping for a big pay day.   Too many numnuts walk around with the notion that a chica quoting an inflated price is her raising the market price, when that may not be the case at all.   She just may not want to miss out on a big pay day, if the guy is an over payer.   Just because one is told something, doesnt make it the price.

Do you know how many chicas dropped their prices almost immediately, the moment a guy declined or hesitated?   Or chicks that followed up later to come back to accept an offer they refused earlier? 

The DR is a country where people negotiate.  And if there is no meeting of the minds at 1st try, you move on and find somebody else that will provide the service and your price.   What muggs need to stop doing is blaming inflation on what other men do, and start taking responsibility for maybe what the real problem is, their entitlement mentality and/or lack of negotiation skills.   

Another responsibility of the monger is to establish regulars, so one doesnt have to complain about chicas raising prices or providing poor service.  Or worrying about how other men spend their money.    The chick I had the other night was an old regular.  I gave her 3000 for ST. 

Maybe she will expect more from some other cat.  I dont give a shit about what some other man pays.  His business does not affect how I handle my business.   He may pay $100, but he doesnt know I paid 3000 pesos.   Thats between the chick and myself.  Thats how Sosua business works. 

Dozens of men paying a particular chick 3000 doesnt bring the price down, nor does dudes paying $100 to a bunch of chicas brings their cost of pussy up.  Thats a flawed assumption, not necessarily a fact.   There is individual responsibility involved in what the cost is.    Im in charge of pursuing the services and price from the provider I negotiate with.  And so is the next man.

Murano, you're 100% spot on and this post needs to be saved and enshrined.

I think what Airportlizard wants to state is that the price floor has increased from 1500-2000 pesos in 2017, and who is to blame? Hardly any DECENT looking Chicka will take that today.  Some people believe toto price doesn't include inflationary pressures with the outside world, while other do. I tend to believe the latter. Your paycheck, gas, flights, food have increased worldwide tremendously but we expect the price floor of toto to remain the same and not be impacted by outside factors? Many posters seem to want to only blame the gringo, and although that's a piece of the story, it's missing a couple pieces of the puzzle.

Sosua's strength is that, as one poster here mentioned, it's an open-air market that favors the smart negotiator who waits for opportune times and situationally strikes when it benefits him the most. For example, you would NEVER catch me at the casino negotiating with any girl because in that environment, you're going to pay significantly more for the same product.
Another Sosua strength is that it is filled with 5 and 6 's so if you don't mind mid-tier chickas, you can have your fill at that affordable 3000 peso price mention above.

Weaknesses of Sosua include that top tier chickas can always command an inflated price because...supply and demand. The supply for top tier girls has never been high there, so it is what it is. Why? They have more options with regards to travel and making $ online.

[airportlizard]

"situationally strikes", I like that. Kinda like being a stealth monger-ninja. That would be a good nic for someone who has an Emeritus PHD degree in toto procuring dynamics.

[stinqu]

I agree with Justin, plenty of mid-level chicas for 3,000p. Yes prices of "every thing" in DR are double what they were 5 years ago. I do most of my own cooking, so I know the price increases at the Playero , 5,000p was enough food for the month, last month I spent 10,000p.