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General Category => Trip Reports To Other Countries => Topic started by: murano2010 on November 30, 2023, 12:24:57 AM
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November 2023. Im starting to like this destination a little more. This is my 3rd trip to Nairobi Kenya.
Checked in to my Airbnb in the Westlands area on a Thursday afternoon. Im in the same building as my other 2 visits, but in a different apt with a different host. These rentals in this building are affordable. They range from $37 to $62 a night, depending on the Airbnb host.
In this entire area Airbnbs are plentiful. I just happen to like this particular building. I believe the units in this building are all one BR, with 1 1/2 baths, kitchen ( with appliances and water cooler ), dining counter, dining room, with a washer. Im paying $45 a night, which includes all taxes.
Im 3 days ahead of my wingman who is supposed to arrive on the 19th of Nov.
My 1st victim was the chick Nasha from my last trip. Good juice, but a begging headache. I got her to come over in a taxi around 9pm. We had a quick drink at a restaurant nearby. Then went upstairs.
As expected and before bed, she started telling me about some event she was planning to go to next evening. At 1st, I thought she was inviting me to go with her to that event. But as it turned out, she was telling me about it, angling to get me to give her money.
Mind you, I never discussed payment with her for coming to spend time with me. Because she was pumping me up with how much she missed me. With that I was just going to give her some cash the next morning through M-Pesa ( digital payment system ).
My last visit in May, I had given her 4000 ksh ( about $23 at the time ) each morning when she was leaving. She was begging and angling then. Part of it is her fault, because she was and keeps acting like she is/was in love, and not a freelancer.
And assumed I was falling for that bullshit. So when I gave her money, I gave her what Id give a GF who could use some money for food for the day/night. Not strictly paying for services.
This is the Westlands area, many of the freelance chicks in the clubs or working on dating apps like Tinder, have much higher expectation$ on what they should get from clients. But I can see knowing how to move, a guy can pay much less by finding talent on his own without those sources.
That's not to say that every chick on Tinder ( etc ) or up in the clubs are expecting to get paid a lot for their time. Negotiations is very much a part of the culture here. So negotiating is expected here in Nairobi with just about anything that doesnt have a fixed price on it. There are a lot of women in this city. And it almost seems as if they have a greater need to have access to money even more than the freelancers in the DR. Which seems to make negotiating with Kenyans much easier.
Also, many of the freelance women here in Nairobi don't seem to have a unionized mindset, like it seems with the chicks in the DR.
So my chick Nasha gives me the details about her social event, but Im not paying it much mind. We ended up having a good welcome back session. I got up early. Didnt care to hit it again. I was annoyed somewhat because this chick was coughing much of the night after the session.
Then it dawned on me. She was sick the whole time. She was hiding it from me. Just like she did last time. When she came over with her son. Both of them were coughing. Tried to get me to give her extra money, pretending she was going to go to the hospital later that morning. I gave her 4000 ksh in May when she was leaving, and I gave her 5000 ksh the morning of this visit.
She brought up the social event again in the morning, asking me if I was going to give her money towards it. To which I declined, since I had just got there. Around 7pm later, she brought it up again. This time I told her that I never said I was giving her money for that. She had wanted 5000 ksh. But shit, her social events is not a priority or my responsibility. It's not for food, rent, or utilities.
Some of these chicks game is so weak and transparent that it's pathetic. Some of these chicks aint got nothing on many of the DR chicks when it comes to running game.
Since she was coughing all night, I used that to keep her away from me for a while. I can always get her to come over anytime I want in case I get the urge. I stopped taking her calls and texts because they were getting too frequent.
Including her trick calling me using another number. Lots of other fish in the sea. That about covers the 1st few days as far as women are concerned. The next chapter is about a Tinder chick I met, who travelled 3hrs to come see me, with her spending 3 days with me.
And me meeting a cute chick with a nice body yesterday at her job. A brief chat resulted in her suggesting that we exchange numbers. Cold approaching chicks with regular jobs here is a welcome change, from dealing with chicks always on the hustle. Just from our brief encounter and followup messages, the lady is already talking about cooking something for me.
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Appreciate the report. Keep it coming, and don’t forget the pics, sir. 😆👌🏽
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I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.
Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to) and collect numbers.
Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.
All previous advice still stands have a great trip.
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I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.
Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to) and collect numbers.
Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.
All previous advice still stands have a great trip.
Ive been seeing Kikuyu women in action. Nasha is Kikuyu. Beverly from Mombasa last May is Kikuyu. There may be others.
We met 2 chicks at the mall 2 days ago. And both of them were Kikuyu. These chicks were selling life insurance. When they saw us at the outside food court, the cuter one made a beeline towards us. They werent being friendly because they were interested in us, they were hoping we might be interested in some life insurance.
My buddy worked fast, cracking on the cuter one for her number. She had the banging body. Tits and ass. Both were young and claimed to have no kids. (They were about 23 to 25.) I did not get or seek the number from the other girl the 1st day. But I felt that she was doable.
That same day, his chick asked if we had left the mall yet. Their insurance company was sponsoring a bowling event at the mall. The chick told my buddy about it, and asked if we would like to come. We had left awhile ago, and wasnt even thinking about coming back to be set up to be fleeced like an ATM. Were not in the DR but it sure started to feel like it.
The following day though, my buddy claimed his chick wanted to meet up with him at the mall again. This time I figured it was so they could get a free meal out of the deal. I decided to go even though I knew it was a whack idea. The other chick was supposed to come too. This time I wanted to see if she looked any better than the 1st day we met in the food court.
She actually did look better. As far as I was concerned these chicks had f--ked up. They were not where they were supposed to be at the time that was agreed to. I had nothing to do with making any arrangements. That was all between my buddy and the chick. Apparently they did not head to the mall until we were at the mall. That was not the plan.
This is where both of these chicks seemed a little goofy. And the way his chick was acting, I didnt see him getting any of that juice anytime soon. I felt that she was probably going to give him the runaround. The other chick started dropping hints of needing to get her nails done. Which was really aimed towards me.
Im somewhat certain that if I said lets go to my place, she probably would have went. But I wasnt that interested. I had met someone much nicer earlier , that I was going to pursue. So we finished up at the mall with them. These chicks are going home, and me and my buddy are going to catch a taxi.
The chick that supposedly likes me, mentioned her nails again. Then when we got outside, she asks "can you give me some cash". I said "cash?". I said how much are you talking about, out of curiosity. I think she said 5G's. I didnt ask her to repeat it or confirm how much that was. I just told her, if and when we get together we will see about that.
I just laughed at the whole situation. Him coming to the realization that this chick was probably just playing him, and has no intentions of f--king him. And the other chick thinking that she was entitled to some cash for doing nothing. The whole point of bringing them up, is that those two chicks were both Kikuyu women.
Before I got back to my Airbnb, the chick was sending me videos, pics and memes of herself. Acting like her asking me for cash was no big deal. Oh my goodness she was pushing hard, trying to find out when we can get together. This chick would not just call it a night.
She sent me some more pics later that night. My buddy had already told his chick he was leaving 3 days from now. Which was a lie. So I guess both of them saw that they needed to move fast, in order to get some cash or whatever else they could get.
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I would agree that Tinder is not necessary, but it sure is interesting seeing how proactive these chicks are in sending dudes LIKES, and occasionally messages. Last time I checked I had over 2700 likes. I'd say most of those likes are from all 3 visits combined. And very little from other destinations that I have been to.
The exchange rate for the USD to the Kenyan shilling is better than my 1st visit. It was around 131 Ksh to 1 USD last year. Now it's 154 ksh to 1 USD. So ones dollar does go a little further now.
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A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi. Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away. She says she will stay 3 days. I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down. I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.
Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good. Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it. The sex was good. She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite. Gave good head. Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet. Very affectionate the whole time.
Total damage 17,100 ksh : In USD thats $112. Not including meals together.
1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home. ( she paid for her own transpo coming and going )
The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals. We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once. None of those meals were expensive. In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.
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Last week I cracked on my waitress at the Java House restaurant in the mall. Many of these chicks are open to cold approaches and giving up their numbers. Even if it doesnt go anywhere, I still enjoy flirting.
Yesterday, another waitress caught my attention at another restaurant. She wasnt serving us, but when I was about to leave I struck up a conversation with her. Then asked her if she had a boyfriend or was married. She responded that she was happily single. To which I assumed that she wasnt interested, and wanted to remain that way.
Apparently she wasnt suggesting that at all. She was actually saying that she was available. When I terminated the convo at that point , she said but we can exchange numbers. And thats what we did.
We texted and voice messaged each other the rest of the evening. So it looks like I might be getting to know this lady. Cute, chocolate, nice round ass, succulent lips. She's good to go.
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I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.
Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to) and collect numbers.
Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.
All previous advice still stands have a great trip.
Ive been seeing Kikuyu women in action. Nasha is Kikuyu. Beverly from Mombasa last May is Kikuyu. There may be others.
We met 2 chicks at the mall 2 days ago. And both of them were Kikuyu. These chicks were selling life insurance. When they saw us at the outside food court, the cuter one made a beeline towards us. They werent being friendly because they were interested in us, they were hoping we might be interested in some life insurance.
My buddy worked fast, cracking on the cuter one for her number. She had the banging body. Tits and ass. Both were young and claimed to have no kids. (They were about 23 to 25.) I did not get or seek the number from the other girl the 1st day. But I felt that she was doable.
That same day, his chick asked if we had left the mall yet. Their insurance company was sponsoring a bowling event at the mall. The chick told my buddy about it, and asked if we would like to come. We had left awhile ago, and wasnt even thinking about coming back to be set up to be fleeced like an ATM. Were not in the DR but it sure started to feel like it.
The following day though, my buddy claimed his chick wanted to meet up with him at the mall again. This time I figured it was so they could get a free meal out of the deal. I decided to go even though I knew it was a whack idea. The other chick was supposed to come too. This time I wanted to see if she looked any better than the 1st day we met in the food court.
She actually did look better. As far as I was concerned these chicks had f--ked up. They were not where they were supposed to be at the time that was agreed to. I had nothing to do with making any arrangements. That was all between my buddy and the chick. Apparently they did not head to the mall until we were at the mall. That was not the plan.
This is where both of these chicks seemed a little goofy. And the way his chick was acting, I didnt see him getting any of that juice anytime soon. I felt that she was probably going to give him the runaround. The other chick started dropping hints of needing to get her nails done. Which was really aimed towards me.
Im somewhat certain that if I said lets go to my place, she probably would have went. But I wasnt that interested. I had met someone much nicer earlier , that I was going to pursue. So we finished up at the mall with them. These chicks are going home, and me and my buddy are going to catch a taxi.
The chick that supposedly likes me, mentioned her nails again. Then when we got outside, she asks "can you give me some cash". I said "cash?". I said how much are you talking about, out of curiosity. I think she said 5G's. I didnt ask her to repeat it or confirm how much that was. I just told her, if and when we get together we will see about that.
I just laughed at the whole situation. Him coming to the realization that this chick was probably just playing him, and has no intentions of f--king him. And the other chick thinking that she was entitled to some cash for doing nothing. The whole point of bringing them up, is that those two chicks were both Kikuyu women.
Before I got back to my Airbnb, the chick was sending me videos, pics and memes of herself. Acting like her asking me for cash was no big deal. Oh my goodness she was pushing hard, trying to find out when we can get together. This chick would not just call it a night.
She sent me some more pics later that night. My buddy had already told his chick he was leaving 3 days from now. Which was a lie. So I guess both of them saw that they needed to move fast, in order to get some cash or whatever else they could get.
Malls especially the upscale ones is the worst place to meet chicks in Kenya, becaise of two main reasons
#1. That's where all the mzungus too scared to go the the CBD go so it's like the Casino the rich guys go their and try to holla at a cute shopgirl.
#2. Kenya is super corrupt but generally speaking if theres any chaance that someone could see her she will not accept your number again any Kenya knows whats up when she takes your number so they're super duper discreet in doing so frankly it's not worth it. I think in my two years there I got two numbers and that was because the manager wasn't there and the other time the girl was quitting and even then that was around the beginning of COVID when they really needed the money and I happened to go to that particular mall almost daily.
Absolutely they were trying to get what they could out of you. That being said if they were independently selling shit like life insurance and they happened to be in the mall because that's where people who could afford Life Insurance were at then maybe they'd f--k but no actual employees of any store is likely to f--k.
You got to go where the average Kenyan goes. That's the downside of Kenya the Kenyan middle class is way poorer than the average Dominican. Put it to you this way my ex is middle class and she lives in Obama Innercore (yes they named a Neighborhood after him) Just check out the area on Google Maps to see what it looks like.
a Poor area would be Kibera. I promise you 90% of the chicks you get with no matter the tribe will be from someplace like Obama at best.
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I would agree that Tinder is not necessary, but it sure is interesting seeing how proactive these chicks are in sending dudes LIKES, and occasionally messages. Last time I checked I had over 2700 likes. I'd say most of those likes are from all 3 visits combined. And very little from other destinations that I have been to.
The exchange rate for the USD to the Kenyan shilling is better than my 1st visit. It was around 131 Ksh to 1 USD last year. Now it's 154 ksh to 1 USD. So ones dollar does go a little further now.
Man you feel like an absolute God in Kenya even more than the much poorer Tanzania. Tanzania is more muslim and socialist which is why they're way poorer despite being bigger and have gold and gas. But TZ folks are more "proud" and don't hop on your jock like Kenyans do. Granted they're still way thristier than the oldest Rat in Sosua but you'd have to go to Nairobi and Dar to see what I mean.
But like I said Kenya is more capitalist and I don't know if you seen the stark differences between Westlands and Eastleigh. The locals go to Eastleigh Mall the Somalis sell shit way cheaper there I wouldn't even bother to tell you to go over there. I can't really describe the place there's streets and even sidewalks but it's the most oddlly designed place in the world. You'd likely more get hit by a car on the sidewalk than if you walked in the street.
Like you seen the shilling crashed so people who actually work for a living are poorer than your last trip they have whole street families ( actual homeless families) In Ururu Park there version of Central Park and a good place to go to meet girls as it the Government offices near there.
But f--k all of that I'm supposed to get people interested in Kenya no way they want to see that You'd be fine staying in Westlands and hitting up Brew Bistro. Telling you about Nairobi West ( which is different that the Westlands) and telling you pussy is probably half the price is like telling someone at the Casino that they could get much cheaper pussy in some campo along the Haitain border. It's true but what short stayer is traveling to the Haitan border just to get cut rate cooch?
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A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi. Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away. She says she will stay 3 days. I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down. I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.
Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good. Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it. The sex was good. She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite. Gave good head. Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet. Very affectionate the whole time.
Total damage 17,100 ksh : In USD thats $112. Not including meals together.
1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home. ( she paid for her own transpo coming and going )
The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals. We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once. None of those meals were expensive. In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.
That couldve went left in the sense that she could've tried to stay for your whole trip.
But then again she was from some town in the interior so maybe she had to get back.
I could quibble over the prices she quoted for things but inflation is through the roof needless to say hard to get those prices even from a carefully vetted and trusted regular in the Su.
Dudes on the fence about a trip should take heed especially the New York crowd. Kenyan Airlines and Ethiopian and some of the Arab airlines have some great deals if you know how to look.
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Last week I cracked on my waitress at the Java House restaurant in the mall. Many of these chicks are open to cold approaches and giving up their numbers. Even if it doesnt go anywhere, I still enjoy flirting.
Yesterday, another waitress caught my attention at another restaurant. She wasnt serving us, but when I was about to leave I struck up a conversation with her. Then asked her if she had a boyfriend or was married. She responded that she was happily single. To which I assumed that she wasnt interested, and wanted to remain that way.
Apparently she wasnt suggesting that at all. She was actually saying that she was available. When I terminated the convo at that point , she said but we can exchange numbers. And thats what we did.
We texted and voice messaged each other the rest of the evening. So it looks like I might be getting to know this lady. Cute, chocolate, nice round ass, succulent lips. She's good to go.
I could be wrong.
I used to live in Java House and Art Cafe again never actually f--ked nothing but again the massive inflation is kicking Kenyans asses.
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I could be wrong about this too but the funny thing is if you get a massage in an Ëxecutive barber shop" it will be a legitmate massage you won't even get as much as a hand job there. You'd have to go to the ones with girls in the ads and those are mainly the ones around Woodvale Grove convientely located in Westlands.
In fact that's the Pedro Clisante of Nairobi right there everything you need or want is within blocks of there.
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A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi. Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away. She says she will stay 3 days. I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down. I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.
Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good. Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it. The sex was good. She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite. Gave good head. Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet. Very affectionate the whole time.
Total damage 17,100 ksh : In USD thats $112. Not including meals together.
1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home. ( she paid for her own transpo coming and going )
The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals. We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once. None of those meals were expensive. In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.
That couldve went left in the sense that she could've tried to stay for your whole trip.
But then again she was from some town in the interior so maybe she had to get back.
I could quibble over the prices she quoted for things but inflation is through the roof needless to say hard to get those prices even from a carefully vetted and trusted regular in the Su.
Dudes on the fence about a trip should take heed especially the New York crowd. Kenyan Airlines and Ethiopian and some of the Arab airlines have some great deals if you know how to look.
This is one of those instances where one would have to know specific details in how the costs were established.
1. According to her, the kids had informed her of the cooking gas being finished her 2nd day/night with me. I asked her how much and she said 1300ksh for a small tank. She said a large tank was 2500ksh. She could have easily claimed that she needed 2500ksh, rather than the cost of a small tank.
I dont know what size tank she uses, or even if the gas was really finished. But I had no problem paying it because, Id rather pay for an alleged need. I can always make adjustments later on what I give her, when it's time for her to leave.
2. She uses a young girl to help watch her kids. According to the chick the girl is only 18 herself. But her watching the kids is supposedly a normal arrangement. She claims to pay the girl 500ksh if its a whole day. 3 days is 1500. I voluntarily added 300 ksh to make it 1800 ksh. 1800ksh is only under $12 USD
3. Her phone plan I volunteered to pay, she didnt ask for it, or expected me to do that. So thats not on her, thats on me.
4. On Day 3 she had asked me for money to send the kids to buy food. Where they go, they can probably get a whole meal for cheap. I asked how much, she said 500 ksh. I voluntarily gave her 1300 ksh to send home. Why not? 1300ksh is only $8.50 USD. That might keep her from asking me for more later.
5. The lady owns a little shop selling clothes and accessories, and miscellaneous stuff. So her being closed for 3 days, I took that into consideration when I gave her the 10000 ksh when she was leaving. Sunday she is closed anyway, so it was only the 2 days she was not operating in her shop.
The fact that she was not greedy in her requests, I respected that. If I would have only paid what she requested, and not volunteered to give her more, or buying her phone plan, what I gave her would have been a little less. 2100ksh less, which is $14 less.
In the end, me giving her $10000 ksh upon leaving was reasonable at todays exchange rate. $65 USD to take home. Even if one were to make it an even $180 USD for everything I paid for in 3 days. I think it was money well spent.
Any of them chicks up at Brew Bistro could have easily asked for 8k to 25k ksh just for a session. Lucky if the chick stays overnight and lets a guy hit it again. And prior to leaving with the chick from Brew Bistro, a guy may have bought the chick drinks or food too. So the better bargain depends on the dude and the circumstances.
But in reality, I can handle both scenarios and not be concerned over the cost of each. Here in the Westlands or just in general, the p4p game or just dealing with some chicks is much easier on the wallet.
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You didnt severely overpay. I dont know prices anymore and everything went up.
Yes Brew bistro is were you can definitely raise the bar and pop bottles with the local elite
Get a stuck up kikuyu "slay queen" and youll think youte at the casino on super bowl weekend.
The havana bar across the street and Black Diamond is much cheaper.
But the impact you have and the care you recieve is best from a small town girl.
That being said aviod chicks from the village as much as possible shell likely need money for the whole family and wont know how to handle even 50 bucks
As a said the poverty is on another level.
But youre a vet and youve been there before. This advice for guys planning a trip.
I think @Travel Guy 90 might prefer it over Ghans
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To guys on the fence about going look at what Murano is saying for 180 bucks he had a girl for 3 days. Meanwhile in the Su 180 is barely enough for ST for most newbs.
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Well well well, I actually have more of a mongering type report. My wing and I went to Brew Bistro just before 12 midnight ( Friday ).
We get upstairs and the place is packed. It almost was a shock because there were so many people there, than from my previous visits. Chicks all over the place. You can start walking through the crowd. End up standing still near a table, and see what happens.
We walked to the other side of the bar. If vetting these chicks wasnt necessary one could just snatch up a sexy chick within seconds and bounce. I wasnt really focused on taking anybody out of there. I just didnt want to waste a Friday night, not doing any kind of nightlife while I was here.
Two chicks at the bar was eyeballing us the minute we were near them at the bar. We ordered drinks, and one of the girls let me rest my coat on the bar stool. Both were friendly. But I wasnt ready to immediately become engaged in conversation, without at least checking out the talent in the place.
Long story short. I got a seat at the bar, and the girl that let me rest my coat, scooted over and introduced herself. After enough chat I took her back to my spot. Her telling me that she has a job, that prevented me from asking her about any arrangement.
We got back to my spot, and after a few minutes she straddled me on the couch, and grinded on me until I moved it to the bedroom. I'd say she was a 7, with a 7 body. she had on a navy jumpsuit that matched her dark skin. It was her lips and ass that got most of my attention.
I didnt f--k her, because I knew I would go limp with a condom on. That happens to me if Im not really lusting for a chick. But we both did enough oral to make up for no penetration. My mind and interest is focused on the chick I met from the restaurant.
Our vibe and attraction to each other is growing. I kinda felt as if I was cheating on her with this club girl.
Since we never discussed any financial arrangements last night, in the morning I started to wonder if I had trouble in store for me. I didnt give a shit last night, but in the morning I was about to find out what the deal is.
As it turned out, I asked her while she was getting dressed if I can buy her lunch and pay for her taxi? She says ok. Were chatting a little bit. And like last night she sounds like a tour guide, slash history buff regarding Kenya, people and culture.
With this, Im still wondering if she is a freelancer, or just a regular chick who likes to party and f--k. I asked her what tribe shes connected to? She says Kikuyu. I should have asked her that while we were up in the club. Ironically, she paid her drink tab before we left together. I was halfway expecting her to ask me to pay her drink tab. But she didnt.
I sent her 4000 ksh to her M Pesa. Which is $26. I thought that would be enough for lunch and a taxi. Once she put her jacket on, she comes to me, looks me in the eye and asks....."can you give me 1000 more than what you gave me?" At that point I gave her a taste of USA, old school, older man logic.
I told her that if she was looking for a certain amount for me to give her in the morning, she should have made that clear last night. Not spring it on me now, after I already volunteered to pay for lunch and a taxi ( really I was paying for her to leave without drama or bad vibes ).
She took what I said and backed off pretty quickly. I kinda think she didnt want to appear as if she was just like the rest of them hoes up in the club. Especially since she claimed to be a successful business woman. That was something to do, but I have no interest in pursuing her for another session. Her asking for more money, killed any further interest. Which was already low.
Overall that situation turned out to be ok for a spontaneous hookup. I got a little problem. I like the chick that spent the 3 days with me. She asked to come back. Im liking the new restaurant girl a lot. She has more potential to be a future pretend GF.
So now I have to figure out how to let the over stay girl come for 2 days, and still communicate with the restaurant lady. Im thinking of planning a fake 2 day trip to Mombasa to tell the restaurant girl. Problem is, she will still be expecting me to talk on the phone even though Im supposedly in Mombasa.
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To guys on the fence about going look at what Murano is saying for 180 bucks he had a girl for 3 days. Meanwhile in the Su 180 is barely enough for ST for most newbs.
That chick that stayed with me for 3 days, kept me physically motivated to f--k more than my usual one and done within 24 hrs. She earned her keep. If there is anything she can do this trip that I'd like, it's her toning down her affectionate display. It can be a bit much at times. Including sleeping too close in bed. LOL
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"Restaurant girl" Potential future pretend GF.
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Nasha from my last trip, and 1st piece of juice this trip. Heavily made up, with filters. But the shape/body is real
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You didnt severely overpay. I dont know prices anymore and everything went up.
Yes Brew bistro is were you can definitely raise the bar and pop bottles with the local elite
Get a stuck up kikuyu "slay queen" and youll think youte at the casino on super bowl weekend.
The havana bar across the street and Black Diamond is much cheaper.
But the impact you have and the care you recieve is best from a small town girl.
That being said aviod chicks from the village as much as possible shell likely need money for the whole family and wont know how to handle even 50 bucks
As a said the poverty is on another level.
But youre a vet and youve been there before. This advice for guys planning a trip.
I think @Travel Guy 90 might prefer it over Ghans
I’m actually planning a trip to east Africa but can’t pin down the exact country and city. I’m thinking Tanzania might be more pricey than Kenya/Uganda/Rwanda but I’m favoring Nairobi or Mombasa. Thinking of 2-5 weeks, maybe I’ll just do 3.5 so I can visit 2 countries, 3-4 cities.
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Went to Java House in the mall, and who do I see alone sitting in the corner? The same chick from Brew Bistro that spent last night with me. Still in the same clothes she was wearing when she left my spot.
I spotted her but didnt do anything. A few minutes go by and she is calling me at my table, telling me that she sees me. I got up to check on some dessert to take home, went over to her table to briefly speak to her.
She had no food or drink in front of her. She was there for a while, maybe waiting for somebody. Going to her table was a mistake. Chick had the nerve to ask me to buy her some lunch. I specifically gave her money earlier this morning for lunch and a taxi. And you gonna fix your mouth to ask me to buy you lunch?
I looked at her and just said for her to enjoy her day
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Well well well, I actually have more of a mongering type report. My wing and I went to Brew Bistro just before 12 midnight ( Friday ).
We get upstairs and the place is packed. It almost was a shock because there were so many people there, than from my previous visits. Chicks all over the place. You can start walking through the crowd. End up standing still near a table, and see what happens.
We walked to the other side of the bar. If vetting these chicks wasnt necessary one could just snatch up a sexy chick within seconds and bounce. I wasnt really focused on taking anybody out of there. I just didnt want to waste a Friday night, not doing any kind of nightlife while I was here.
Two chicks at the bar was eyeballing us the minute we were near them at the bar. We ordered drinks, and one of the girls let me rest my coat on the bar stool. Both were friendly. But I wasnt ready to immediately become engaged in conversation, without at least checking out the talent in the place.
Long story short. I got a seat at the bar, and the girl that let me rest my coat, scooted over and introduced herself. After enough chat I took her back to my spot. Her telling me that she has a job, that prevented me from asking her about any arrangement.
We got back to my spot, and after a few minutes she straddled me on the couch, and grinded on me until I moved it to the bedroom. I'd say she was a 7, with a 7 body. she had on a navy jumpsuit that matched her dark skin. It was her lips and ass that got most of my attention.
I didnt f--k her, because I knew I would go limp with a condom on. That happens to me if Im not really lusting for a chick. But we both did enough oral to make up for no penetration. My mind and interest is focused on the chick I met from the restaurant.
Our vibe and attraction to each other is growing. I kinda felt as if I was cheating on her with this club girl.
Since we never discussed any financial arrangements last night, in the morning I started to wonder if I had trouble in store for me. I didnt give a shit last night, but in the morning I was about to find out what the deal is.
As it turned out, I asked her while she was getting dressed if I can buy her lunch and pay for her taxi? She says ok. Were chatting a little bit. And like last night she sounds like a tour guide, slash history buff regarding Kenya, people and culture.
With this, Im still wondering if she is a freelancer, or just a regular chick who likes to party and f--k. I asked her what tribe shes connected to? She says Kikuyu. I should have asked her that while we were up in the club. Ironically, she paid her drink tab before we left together. I was halfway expecting her to ask me to pay her drink tab. But she didnt.
I sent her 4000 ksh to her M Pesa. Which is $26. I thought that would be enough for lunch and a taxi. Once she put her jacket on, she comes to me, looks me in the eye and asks....."can you give me 1000 more than what you gave me?" At that point I gave her a taste of USA, old school, older man logic.
I told her that if she was looking for a certain amount for me to give her in the morning, she should have made that clear last night. Not spring it on me now, after I already volunteered to pay for lunch and a taxi ( really I was paying for her to leave without drama or bad vibes ).
She took what I said and backed off pretty quickly. I kinda think she didnt want to appear as if she was just like the rest of them hoes up in the club. Especially since she claimed to be a successful business woman. That was something to do, but I have no interest in pursuing her for another session. Her asking for more money, killed any further interest. Which was already low.
Overall that situation turned out to be ok for a spontaneous hookup. I got a little problem. I like the chick that spent the 3 days with me. She asked to come back. Im liking the new restaurant girl a lot. She has more potential to be a future pretend GF.
So now I have to figure out how to let the over stay girl come for 2 days, and still communicate with the restaurant lady. Im thinking of planning a fake 2 day trip to Mombasa to tell the restaurant girl. Problem is, she will still be expecting me to talk on the phone even though Im supposedly in Mombasa.
Enjoy Kenya, So far there's no Dubs there to make women completely masculine. She was a club girl and kinda new so she didn't think to stick you with the tab or threaten to call the cops or break shit in your room.
Frankly even with Kikuyu women other than kinda being annoying with the begging a simple "No" is sufficient.
You're finding out why I love Kenya.
Once you're there you can tell which Tribe is which by looking at them generally speaking Kikuyu's tend to be lighter and thinner than Luos. Luos tend to look more stereotypically West African and Kikuyu's look more east African, But my Kikuyu Girfriend was darkerskinned but she was thin.
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Nasha from my last trip, and 1st piece of juice this trip. Heavily made up, with filters. But the shape/body is real
The 3 day lay and the Restuarant girl are Kikuyu's actually the 3 day lay chick defenitely looks stereotypically Kikuyu the Restauante girl could be a mix of Kikuyu and something else.
The Mombasa girl defenitely looks stereotypically Mombasa they have the stereotype of Big booty Somali and Somali mixed girls.
I could be wrong but ask them and see if I'm right.
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You didnt severely overpay. I dont know prices anymore and everything went up.
Yes Brew bistro is were you can definitely raise the bar and pop bottles with the local elite
Get a stuck up kikuyu "slay queen" and youll think youte at the casino on super bowl weekend.
The havana bar across the street and Black Diamond is much cheaper.
But the impact you have and the care you recieve is best from a small town girl.
That being said aviod chicks from the village as much as possible shell likely need money for the whole family and wont know how to handle even 50 bucks
As a said the poverty is on another level.
But youre a vet and youve been there before. This advice for guys planning a trip.
I think @Travel Guy 90 might prefer it over Ghans
I’m actually planning a trip to east Africa but can’t pin down the exact country and city. I’m thinking Tanzania might be more pricey than Kenya/Uganda/Rwanda but I’m favoring Nairobi or Mombasa. Thinking of 2-5 weeks, maybe I’ll just do 3.5 so I can visit 2 countries, 3-4 cities.
It depends on what you're looking for. If you want big booties on the level of or exceeding West Africa then I'd say Uganda Kampala/ Entebbe and Nairobi.
If you really want beach and want a more Sosua style vibe then Mombasa and Nairobi. Make sure your Mombasa spot has a backup generator!!! Mombasa is Cartagena Hot but less to do at night when it cools off.
If you want to hit the clubs there's some in Mombasa but the best clubs are in Nairobi not matter what you do, Do yourself a favor and Go to Nairobi.
I'd advise against a first trip less than 3 months going to Tanzania. You'd need way more Swahili. Go outside the Tourist Zones and English speakers are few and far between. There's a Beach in Dar but again the town is way more conservative you can have Fun on Coco beach but other than Elements and some other night clubs you wont be able to pull as easy as you would in Nairobi, Mombasa and Kampala and Entebbe.
You can and should consider getting an East African Visa if visiting more than one country ( actually TZ doesn't really honor East African Visas but Visas are easy to get.
That being said less than a month I wouldn't even suggest doing two countries. Africa is huge better to spend the time learning one city than running to several cities and countries.
To keep in a bean I'd do either Mombasa and Nairobi and be done with it for a three weeker.
Mombasa is more compact with some Touristy stuff to do the weather is hot and Humid year round. Food can be slightly better but way less non African options.
If you're a Ghana vet Kenya and even Uganda is way more developed than Ghana.
If you do Mombasa stay in Nyali everything you need and want is one one super long street. It's like a long ass PC except hoes won't grab your junk or be pushy. You won't be super harassed on the beach either way more beach activities than Sosua beach but also more seaweed and more underwater rocks. Tudor Creek is actually better for real swimming than Diani Beach ( that's the beach you want)
I'd personally pick Nairobi for a first trip It's much more cooler the weather is akin to Medellin i.e warm not hot days and cool nights. You don't even need even a fan in Nairobi technically. If you go to Mombasa you can easily catch a train to Nairobi You might see some elephants as it passes a National park.
If you choose Nairobi I'd stay in the Westlands as near to Woodvale Grove ( the Nairobi PC) as you can.
If you're budget mongering hot up Sabina Joy brothel ( you can actually stay there in your room if you want). Liddoes, and Applebee's strip clubs on Accra Road. even though I told you were it is good luck finding it even with an expierenced cab driver. But. if you're experienced with African market districts you can find it. There's plenty of clubs and African places to eat in the Central business district and almost any girl you meet even ones with jobs are available. The CBD is sorta like a chaotic market district version of Sosua.
Any other questions ask away.
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Went to Java House in the mall, and who do I see alone sitting in the corner? The same chick from Brew Bistro that spent last night with me. Still in the same clothes she was wearing when she left my spot.
I spotted her but didnt do anything. A few minutes go by and she is calling me at my table, telling me that she sees me. I got up to check on some dessert to take home, went over to her table to briefly speak to her.
She had no food or drink in front of her. She was there for a while, maybe waiting for somebody. Going to her table was a mistake. Chick had the nerve to ask me to buy her some lunch. I specifically gave her money earlier this morning for lunch and a taxi. And you gonna fix your mouth to ask me to buy you lunch?
I looked at her and just said for her to enjoy her day
Standard Kikuyu behavior again anyone with a smidge of backbone can avoid it. Chicks like her post up where Mzungus are likely to be and see if they can find a soft sucker.
Again Love Java House when I was there I went damn near daily way better than Starbucks to me.
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My wing was going through his own Kikuyu bullshit from the chick we met at the food court in the mall. Friday afternoon they were to meet up again at the mall.
This time, he decided he was going to wait until she was at the mall before committing to leaving to go there himself. Apparently another thing thats typical with some of these chicks.
They will agree to meet you somewhere at a certain time. But they wont be there when you get there. Once they know that you are there, then they leave from where they are, for the meet. The whole time they are not telling you exactly where they are.
That happened to me in Mombasa. Me and Beverly agreed to meet at the restaurant in Bamburi at a certain time. What she did, was wait until I got to the restaurant. And then she committed to coming to the meet. I found out that she never left where she was, until after she knew I was at the restaurant.
I also recall the Nyali incident. The Tinder chick at the Java House in Nyali who had a 2pm date. The dude she was supposed to meet got there before 2pm. She shows up way after 2pm. Thats when I saw her going into the Java House. The guy had left apparently. I stopped at her table while she was eating some fries. Apparently she missed out on a good meal from her date.
She told me that she was late. She said she never told the guy she was going to be late. Nor did she contact him to advise or update him. This is whats f--ked up about their logic. According to her, the guy should have waited. He was being impatient. She also claimed to me, that she is a Kenyan woman, and that being late is to be expected. Telling me how much effort she put into getting prepared for the date/meeting.
I took her number, and exchanged a few texts with her. But I never committed to anything. Because I already had an idea of the bullshit I would have to deal with. She would do the same crap to me. Like if I arranged for her to come directly to my spot at a certain time.
Back to my wingman and the food court chick. This chick had no intention of f--king my wingman. Oh, she will come dolled up, hair and nails done, and pretend to be down for whatever. But her whole angle and goal is to see what she can get out of him. She dropped hints to him before about her phone needing to get fixed.
And now at the mall, at this meet, she brought it up again. My wingman wanted to bring her back to his spot. But the chick claimed that it was too soon for her to do that. Shes looking for something meaningful.
The date/meet ended. Next couple of days they are texting back and forth and the chick finally moves from hints to straight up asking him if he will send her 3000ksh to help her fix her phone.
He tells her, it's funny that you claim to be shy about coming back to my spot, and you need to be in a relationship. Plus, you avoid a simple kiss when we were parting company. etc. But you arent shy about asking me for money. Offering nothing in return.
Chick flips the script and claims, the reason she did not go to his place on Friday, is because she was on her period. And the reason she didnt kiss him was some other bullshit excuse that didnt make any sense. He asked her, if you supposedly were on your period and that is why you didnt come, why didnt she just say that? According to him, all he got was more deflective bullshit.
I saved myself from similar bullshit after her friend asked me for cash and tried to get me to give her money to supposedly get her nails done. And that was the 2nd time we saw each other at the mall.
She kept trying to reach me for 3 days straight. When I didnt answer her calls and texts, she started using unknown numbers. And tried to get information from her GF ( through my wingman ) on why I wasnt answering her calls/texts. Eventually I blocked her because she wouldnt stop. I havent had a chick that aggressive in pursuing me for my wallet in a long time.
I actually believe that chick would have come to f--k if I invited her. But I also believe that she would have given me major problems if she wasnt getting her way. And worse problems, if I had to get rid of her. And she didnt look like anything a guy should be dealing with, and going through all of that drama for.
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Again GeneraL information only the elite of Kenya goes to upscale Malls especially Westgate Mall or my personal fovoriate Two Rivers Mall. Side note you got to check out Two Rivers Mall it's the best Mall I've been to in Life and I've been to Dubai malls. People come from all over east Afica to shop there but again I;m talking about Rich Africans.
It's sorta like an expat paying 100 dollars or more from a chick in the casino during super bowl weekend you just don't do it.
Youre in Westlands I used to call it whitelands Again you're in Africa so the vast majority are Black but that's generally where the white people stay. I love the gym in the Village Mall ( and that Butcher shop was the ONLY Place I bought fresh meat) but it's hella expensive and even a Rich Kenyan knows that everything on the east side is way cheaper.
I said Malls where the worst place to hunt and I meant it, any regular Kenyan likely would shop even if they wanted high end at Garden City Mall Maybe but they'd probably go to I forget the name of the Market but it starts with a G market and haggle.
If you asked any chick that works at any Java house on the Westside I promise you whereever it is it will be on the east side and if you tried to go there the traffic you be insane. They did build a huge Toll road and that might help but I remember eating at a restaurant with a buddy overlooking Mombassa Road (which goes to Tanzania not Mombassa) and it was 7 occlock and traffic was at a complete standstill. It was the worst traffic I seen in my life it's way worse than Santp Domingo Traffic.
I actually stayed in a Upscele neighborhood on the east side and I used to dread going to Village Market to buy their imported Meat and even before traffic it would take 90 minutes each way. To a bitch living in the hood like Obama, Umoja, Buru Buru or some place like that she feels the same thing low ket trapped by the traffic and has to take at least three Matatus ( buses) or she'll be arguing with an Uber driver on why she has to pay Ten or fifteen dollars for a no more than 7 buck ride because they were sitting in Traffic for hours, And since the Uber driver knows this good luck in getting one to take you from Westgate Mall to say Eastleigh.
Again this is just information @Murano is or will be a Vet after this but this is the reason I never hunted in Malls on the Westside. Put it this way Wode Maya is probably the biggest African Youtuber homie got over a million subs he's a legit dollar millionaire (meaning he's a Millionaire with USD). I saw his wife Trudy going to Garden Mall and I wanted to cuss her out for making a video about Nairobi for 20 dollars and reccomending a Hambuger joint in the Village Market where I got super sick ( the only time this happened in Africa)
But the point is her rich ass was in Garden City Mall not Two Rivers Mall. I would assume any Kenyan chick unless she was elite and lived in the Area would not be shopping at West gate. Basically it's like hollering at a Brew Bistro Kikuyu Slay Queen youre gonna get the most pretentious chicks in Africa. Go to any Club or Bar in CBD and you'll find I nice complaint girl that will be where she says she is because she's not entitled and happy to get what you give her.
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Brew Bistro chick has gone into extort mode. Come Sunday afternoon I get a text from her :
"I have cried whole time today and decided to txt u this...Any time u ever pick a woman and u see them selling themselves never underpay them...it is a quick cause to suicide...you do not know what has pushed them to prostitution...some are very decent but life has pushed them to prostitution...yet you get to refuse with their money..its so painful and that is why prostitute gets bitter and end up stealing and killing men...if one was genuine...never underpay or refuse with their money"
Now remember, I saw her Saturday afternoon at the Java House in the same clothes she was wearing when she left my place about 9am, sitting there alone not eating or drinking. Looking rather strange. She asked me then, to buy her lunch. I left her sitting there and went back to my table.
Late Sunday night and Monday in the wee hours, I get several texts from her.
"It has pained me s lot..4k????"
"U said u would top up...I would've undress for lunch..have more disturbing issues that made me go with u"
"Just send me my balance"
"Just know I'm coming for that balance and u have to pay more for people I will come with"
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Brew Bistro chick sent more texts telling me that she was coming to get her money. There was also her hinting that she will be looking for me when I am not at my building.
I talked to my security and told them the whole story, and showed them her messages.
Security tells me that this sort of thing is quite common in that bldg with chicks that come there. And he explained to me exactly what they try to do. Which is to try to put fear in the guy, hoping that he will just cave in and send the money.
He said dont send her any money. Because if you do, you are acknowledging that you owed her money. And she can still say you havent paid her the full amount yet. He said just block her, and dont answer any messages or calls that show up that you are not familiar with. Just block those too. They will handle her if she comes to the building.
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Chick found out that she has been blocked. Sent a Whatsapp message from a different phone, telling me that she made some sort of statement to some entity. And that I am going to be expected to come to Parklands area. Maybe thats supposed to be a police station, IDK. I blocked that number too. To be continued......
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Chick found out that she has been blocked. Sent a Whatsapp message from a different phone, telling me that she made some sort of statement to some entity. And that I am going to be expected to come to Parklands area. Maybe thats supposed to be a police station, IDK. I blocked that number too. To be continued......
Parklands is a neighborhood near Westlands there maybe a Police station there I think there is nothing to worry about.
I see why you were dealing with chicks form the Village.
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Things have been quiet here in Nairobi. My wingman left for Tanzania. The Brew Bistro chick hasnt been an issue. She never showed up to my building, like she claimed she was going to do. She is probably hoping that she sees me somewhere, so she can make a scene. Because she failed to get the result she was looking for.
The restaurant chick I met and was communicating with, I backed off from her. Mainly to give her the opportunity to put in some effort, towards us hooking up. She supposedly had 2 days off from work. We tentatively agreed to get together on one of them. Me not seeing any effort or action towards that happening, I backed off. Apparently it was the right thing to do. I dont chase. And I don't pursue reasons or explanations. I just keep it moving.
My 3 day stay girl ( Roxanne who lives 3 hours away in the county ) is coming back on Thursday early morning. This time she is only spending 2 full days, and one night. Leaving Friday evening. Thats more than enough time for me.
After she's gone, not sure if I'll bother with Tinder for my last few days. It's not that hard bumping into chicks here on the fly.
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Interesting twist. The restaurant girl called and hung up. Like the way a DR chick would. Then she texts me, asking am I ok? I said yes I am ok. Then I asked how she was. She didnt answer that question. Instead she asked "Where are you?"
I said Im in my airbnb in Westlands. Then she tells me that she was disappointed by me. But all fine now. I told her that I was disappointed in her too. Because I thought we had a tentative date for Monday. I explained that since she worked late the previous night, I didnt contact her because I knew she might be tired, and didnt know when she would be awake and rested. That I relied on her to contact me, when she was awake and rested.
Her angle was, since you are the man who asked her out on a date on Monday, she was going to wait for me to contact her ( Chase her ). I told her my reason for not contacting her is only because she is the one that had worked late the night before.
And I felt that she would advise me when she was awake/rested the following day. I told her I never even thought about it from me being "the man" or because whoever does the inviting, thats the one that should call.
So she learned something else about me today. That some guys are not going to chase you, just because of their gender. I told her, I dont play both sides of the net like in a one-sided tennis match. I expect a woman to hold up her side of the communication just as much as she expects a man to.
I can tell she was relieved from the whole misunderstanding. Mine and hers. Then she started wondering. If she hadnt reached out today ( Wednesday ) was I going to ever communicate with her again? Further, she asked...."but suppose something happened to me or I lost my phone?"
I told her I dont think entertaining hypotheticals is appropriate. Simply because, she didnt lose her phone and nothing happened to her. So nothing stopped her from calling me, except some rule or habit of expecting a man to chase her. That stopped that deflection dead in it's tracks.
I can tell she was relieved. Because she had no clue why I just disappeared on Monday and Tuesday, like I may have left Nairobi and didnt say anything. It never dawned on her, of how I was seeing this thing. I again reiterated that all I was doing was being considerate of her, and expected her to contact me when she was awake and rested.
If that had occurred, this whole misunderstanding might not have happened. Well, I guess we are both relieved now. Even though she is working today, she said that she would stop by to see me at 10pm during her break. Then later texted, to tell me that she has somebody that can cover her shift. Can she come at 3 or 4pm. To which I said, that would be ok.
That's a good thing. The tricky part, is hoping things dont get too good, and she ends up wanting to spend the night. Overstay girl is coming super early tomorrow morning. I cant have both of them here at the same time. I doubt restaurant girl will spend the night. She's not prepared for an overnight, and possibly getting banged out. Plus, she has the understanding that me and my wingman are supposed to be going to Mombasa in the morning and returning Saturday. I still may have to go dark while Im unavailable for 2 days straight. Oh what a tangled web we weave......
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I would suggest that you aviod Kikuyu women they're notorious beggers.
Tinder is not really necessary You could just walk down Moi Avenue in CBD ( but I'd understand if you wouldn't want to) and collect numbers.
Kenya is really going through it with the cost of living increase and the Shilling crash You're helping the economy and yourself at the same time.
All previous advice still stands have a great trip.
Ive been seeing Kikuyu women in action. Nasha is Kikuyu. Beverly from Mombasa last May is Kikuyu. There may be others.
We met 2 chicks at the mall 2 days ago. And both of them were Kikuyu. These chicks were selling life insurance. When they saw us at the outside food court, the cuter one made a beeline towards us. They werent being friendly because they were interested in us, they were hoping we might be interested in some life insurance.
My buddy worked fast, cracking on the cuter one for her number. She had the banging body. Tits and ass. Both were young and claimed to have no kids. (They were about 23 to 25.) I did not get or seek the number from the other girl the 1st day. But I felt that she was doable.
That same day, his chick asked if we had left the mall yet. Their insurance company was sponsoring a bowling event at the mall. The chick told my buddy about it, and asked if we would like to come. We had left awhile ago, and wasnt even thinking about coming back to be set up to be fleeced like an ATM. Were not in the DR but it sure started to feel like it.
The following day though, my buddy claimed his chick wanted to meet up with him at the mall again. This time I figured it was so they could get a free meal out of the deal. I decided to go even though I knew it was a whack idea. The other chick was supposed to come too. This time I wanted to see if she looked any better than the 1st day we met in the food court.
She actually did look better. As far as I was concerned these chicks had f--ked up. They were not where they were supposed to be at the time that was agreed to. I had nothing to do with making any arrangements. That was all between my buddy and the chick. Apparently they did not head to the mall until we were at the mall. That was not the plan.
This is where both of these chicks seemed a little goofy. And the way his chick was acting, I didnt see him getting any of that juice anytime soon. I felt that she was probably going to give him the runaround. The other chick started dropping hints of needing to get her nails done. Which was really aimed towards me.
Im somewhat certain that if I said lets go to my place, she probably would have went. But I wasnt that interested. I had met someone much nicer earlier , that I was going to pursue. So we finished up at the mall with them. These chicks are going home, and me and my buddy are going to catch a taxi.
The chick that supposedly likes me, mentioned her nails again. Then when we got outside, she asks "can you give me some cash". I said "cash?". I said how much are you talking about, out of curiosity. I think she said 5G's. I didnt ask her to repeat it or confirm how much that was. I just told her, if and when we get together we will see about that.
I just laughed at the whole situation. Him coming to the realization that this chick was probably just playing him, and has no intentions of f--king him. And the other chick thinking that she was entitled to some cash for doing nothing. The whole point of bringing them up, is that those two chicks were both Kikuyu women.
Before I got back to my Airbnb, the chick was sending me videos, pics and memes of herself. Acting like her asking me for cash was no big deal. Oh my goodness she was pushing hard, trying to find out when we can get together. This chick would not just call it a night.
She sent me some more pics later that night. My buddy had already told his chick he was leaving 3 days from now. Which was a lie. So I guess both of them saw that they needed to move fast, in order to get some cash or whatever else they could get.
Excellente,Nipping tham in the Bud,,, the old saying you snooze you loose,,,now i bet if they offed up the goods, agreed to go back to your air and b. and presented the toto EI get payed for services rendered !or she could of got her nails done
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Restaurant girl came over. Got to my spot late as hell ( as far as my stomach was concerned). Almost 430pm. I was hungry because I hadnt ate a thing all day.The goal was for us to eat together, so I waited.
Went to a place nearby, we ate. She drank a glass of wine, and we bounced. Just that one glass of wine must have relaxed her and loosened her up.
Upstairs, were chilling on the couch. It wasnt long before we were massaging, rubbing, and kissing. Took it the bedroom. Got her to take off her top and bra. Started massaging and kissing her back. All the time she is moaning a lot.
Started massaging her ass through her skirt. At that point I got the green light. I flipped her over, and worked that skirt off, and then her panties. She was already soaking wet. Found out she was quite tasty. She also gave me a ego boost because she came within just a few seconds. And made sure that I knew that she was coming.
I said to my self, damn. I didnt get anywhere near putting it in yet, and she already came? I played it cool though. I didnt f--k her. I dont think she wanted it to go that far anyway. I really didnt care if I didnt hit it today. As far as I was concerned we got pretty far, compared to us possibly never getting together.
We are tentatively going to get together on Saturday when I get back from my imaginary trip to Mombasa. Not f--king her, should help me to be better prepared for when my over stay lady comes tomorrow morning.
She's going to try to f--k my brains out. Gotta keep a very low profile, and stay indoors. Im not supposed to be back in Nairobi until Saturday morning.
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Another look at Restaurant Girl. Doctored photo. Or should I say, too much make up, and the fake hair. This is what I expect from a Tinder profile. Without all of that facade, I still find her very attractive. Nice body, and smooth skin.
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To guys on the fence about going look at what Murano is saying for 180 bucks he had a girl for 3 days. Meanwhile in the Su 180 is barely enough for ST for most newbs.
That chick that stayed with me for 3 days, kept me physically motivated to f--k more than my usual one and done within 24 hrs. She earned her keep. If there is anything she can do this trip that I'd like, it's her toning down her affectionate display. It can be a bit much at times. Including sleeping too close in bed. LOL
ha ha sleeping too close, there yah go that dosent happen much in the DR, rare bird getting the GEF,Any ways she looks like a sexy older milf resteraunt chica not too shabby too,, have fun !
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A 39yr old Tinder chick I was conversing with on Whatsapp decides she wants to visit me in Nairobi. Thing is, she lives over 3 hrs away. She says she will stay 3 days. I wasnt sure about that, but I didnt back down. I figured if things werent going well after one day, I could get her to leave.
Turns out this chick ended up being decent company all three days, although she could have left after 2 days, and I would have been good. Her face was about a 5 but her body made up for it. The sex was good. She seemed like she had an insatiable appetite. Gave good head. Juice box fit very nice, and stayed wet. Very affectionate the whole time.
Total damage 17,100 ksh : In USD thats $112. Not including meals together.
1300 ksh for cooking gas that supposedly ran out while she was away
1800 ksh for her babysitter for the 3 days
1000 ksh I volunteered to pay for a 30 day data,sms,calling package.
1300 ksh for her kids to get food
10,000 ksh for her to take home. ( she paid for her own transpo coming and going )
The rest of what I paid for her, was for her meals. We ordered delivery most times, and went to Java House for breakfast once. None of those meals were expensive. In my spot she cleaned behind us, washed the dishes, and made up the bed in the morning without having to be told.
Now thats what certain chicas in Sosua should do, give you the kings treatment,,,,Nah most rob scam steal and are drama.
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Excellente,Nipping tham in the Bud,,, the old saying you snooze you loose,,,now i bet if they offed up the goods, agreed to go back to your air and b. and presented the toto EI get payed for services rendered !or she could of got her nails done
Correct, they both would have been compensated for their time/services. However, these young chicks have a different mindset. They dont seem to believe in putting in the work 1st and then getting paid.
They appear to have the same mindset of how the dating/mating scene is with women in America. A woman in the states is gonna try to get a guy to make payments and sacrifices for her 1st.
Then, when it comes to compensating that guy for his efforts, there is no guarantee that woman will give him what he ultimately wants.
Operating like that is risky, if not altogether a bad investment. It's always best for men to pay women after services are rendered. It's up to the man, if he decides to make exceptions for a particular woman.
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Roxanne, my overstay girl, came Thursday morning about 6am. And she left about 9am Friday (Today). That timeframe was great. This time there were no extras given, except the cost of dinner, and the 12k ksh, I gave her as my sendoff. She thinks Im leaving tomorrow night for my flight home.
Im actually staying until Monday. And I expect to kick it with Restaurant Girl until then.
Once I got Roxanne upstairs, we almost immediately got her out of that dress, and in the bed. 3 good sessions we got in over the course of her visit. We watched 3 movies, ate dinner and slept. I was very relieved that she was leaving in the morning, instead of leaving in the evening like she originally planned.
Restaurant girl is expecting me to return from my fake trip to Mombasa early Saturday morning. Instead, according to my throwaway ticket, I got back to Nairobi at 1pm today (Friday). It's not even 11am yet. I will contact her around 230pm. That should be about the time I would have got back to my airbnb from the airport.
Restaurant Girl was trying to reach me while I was unavailable. I shut down my phone. My alibi? When I left for the Mombasa trip, I forgot to take my adapters and my charging cable to my phone. I was miserable carrying around this dead phone, so I decided to cut the trip short and come back early. One of the problems with a dead phone, I could not use my phone to pay by M-Pesa. Nor could I contact her to tell her what had happened.
So now, I have to just wait until 230PM to reveal that I am back. I dont feel very bad about having to spin a tale like this. Many if not most women Ive encountered in life have no problem being deceptive towards a man in many ways, if they feel the need to. Many feel entitled to doing that, just from being a female.
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Things turned out well with Restaurant Girl. I went to her restaurant to eat. Lady was surprised but glad to see me. She was expecting me to come back from Mombasa on Saturday, not Friday afternoon. She was working a day shift, which means she would be getting off at 4pm.
So I suggested she come to my place after she finishes her shift. This is our 2nd get together. I think I might have stumbled upon a Nymph or maybe a chick who is sex starved. About 15 minutes in the apt, she asked can she take a shower.
After the shower, I told her that I was going to give her a massage. No complaints from her. I think the shower was her way of getting out of her clothes. By the time I got my hand between her legs, her juice box was nice and wet. Much wetter than Roxanne.
Soon she was tugging at my shorts, and helping me undress. A clear sign it's about to go down. We got in one round. In the wee hours, we got in another round. That juicebox stays super wet. Thats a turn on all by itself. I hate dry, unresponsive pussies.
We spent the night, pretty much all cuddled up. She went to work from my place. Probably coming back over tonight, definitely Sunday.
Now , what might be counter productive about this whole thing? Both of these women see me as relationship material. It could really be ATM material. Sometimes us men mistake a womans interest as genuine feelings towards us. But were looked at as their savior. Our value to them as a status symbol, and our ability to enrich their lives financially.
What each woman expects and wants is for me to stay in touch with them, and to come back soon. With Roxanne, I think we have established that I am not going to be sending her money, and she is not going to be complaining about her financial problems to me. I think she is going to be able to do that, for a few months. I think eventually she will crack, and start telling me about a problem. Hoping that I will offer help voluntarily.
Restaurant Girl on the other hand, we havent covered that yet. She thinks an exclusive relationship is possible. But I know what that ultimately entails. It doesnt matter if Im am in Nairobi or not. If she is supposed to be my woman, she expects me to financially support her. Us being exclusive sex partners ( living on two different continents ) is just some bullshit she expects me to go along with.
Some of these women/people really do think we're rich. They think it's nothing for us to come up with hundreds or thousands of dollars just to travel halfway around the world frequently just to see them.
Anyway, tonight or Sunday I expect Restaurant Girl to spend the night, and serve up some of that good juice.
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It's now Sunday December 10th 2023, about 10am. Im leaving Kenya Monday early evening. Restaurant Girl is going to see me off. After work yesterday, she said she went home to clean the house, do her laundry and go to the salon. That way she can spend all day Sunday, spend the night, and go directly to work, Monday morning.
She asked me to go to the market and buy some wine. I have already seen how relaxed she can be after having a single glass of wine. I think it's going to be one hell of a night and send off. Im getting stiff just thinking about it.
Meanwhile, Roxanne is leaving messages. She thinks I left on Saturday and still in transit. Once Im away from Nairobi, I can communicate with her.
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Excellente,Nipping tham in the Bud,,, the old saying you snooze you loose,,,now i bet if they offed up the goods, agreed to go back to your air and b. and presented the toto EI get payed for services rendered !or she could of got her nails done
Correct, they both would have been compensated for their time/services. However, these young chicks have a different mindset. They dont seem to believe in putting in the work 1st and then getting paid.
They appear to have the same mindset of how the dating/mating scene is with women in America. A woman in the states is gonna try to get a guy to make payments and sacrifices for her 1st.
Then, when it comes to compensating that guy for his efforts, there is no guarantee that woman will give him what he ultimately wants.
Operating like that is risky, if not altogether a bad investment. It's always best for men to pay women after services are rendered. It's up to the man, if he decides to make exceptions for a particular woman.
Key word right there bad investments,,, lot of bad investments in Sosua, choose wisley with any chica,, Kudos good reports !
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This morning Restaurant Girl sends me a message letting me know what wine to buy from the Naivas 24hr market. She asks me to buy 3 bottles of Four Cousins Red and Sweet wine, claiming that she wants to get tipsy. Code language for, I want to f--k tonight. Three bottles was 3690 ksh. About $24 USD.
After I bought the wine, I went to the restaurant near my spot to have breakfast. They have a 700ksh breakfast. It consists of 2 eggs, toast, one beef sausage, one slice of beef bacon, one samosa, tea and juice.
There is this expat white guy that comes by this place daily. Weve chatted a few times when I was in the restaurant. Yesterday, he sat with me for more than 30 minutes. This time, the shady expat routine was starting to come through. He asks me can I pay for his tea. He gave me some lame excuse, I didnt pay much attention to.
He's a good talker. But I recognize his kind. Seen it dozens of time. Last visit he asked for my email. I gave him an email that I barely use. Our chat yesterday was different. This time he wanted to know if I would like to be a part of some business venture he's got going on.
He claimed that it involved setting up some remote server where I live. He insisted that "this doesnt require any supervision on your part" blah blah blah. I just told him that I got too much on my plate already. He backed off.
So now, this morning he comes around and sits with me again. The waiter passes by and he tells the waiter to bring him "another" coke. Were chatting, and I finish my breakfast. At about that time, he bids me farewell, safe journey.
I ask the waiter to bring me my bill. He doesnt bring me a bill, he brings me a piece of paper with 1400ksh on it. Ohhhh no you dont. Sir, thats not the price of the breakfast. And why do you have that other guys coke on my bill? Looking at the paper, this dude charged me 400ksh separately from the price of the breakfast. Claiming that this Delmonte juice was different than the usual juice.
I corrected him, because that was the same juice I had yesterday with the breakfast. So he leaves and consults with his co workers, and comes back with 1200ksh as the bill. I said that's still not correct. The breakfast is 700ksh. This time he goes to the computer, and produces a real bill with 700ksh, and apologizes for the mistake.
He walked off and never came back to check to see the payment on my phone. I had to go to the girl waitress to let her get a copy of the payment. She had the nerve to try to defend his actions as some innocent mistake. I left without offering a tip, like I usually do. Besides, the service charge is sort of accounted for in the pricing.
Meanwhile, I got another opportunity to see this slickster expat trying to get me to pay for something of his. One thing I see that I need to pay attention to, be careful giving strangers ( including friendly expats ) any information that they could use against you. In this case, I did not need to tell him when I was leaving. Im sure he knew that the restaurant was going to put his drink on my tab.
Now that I think about it, I dont think he had a coke previously. I believe he asked the waiter for that coke out loud for my benefit. So I would never suspect that when it was time to pay my own bill, his coke would end up on my tab. He would have plausible deniability if I ever were to run into him before I leave.
The other possibility, is that the waiter put his coke on my tab deliberately so he could pocket the money later. Knowing the guy sitting with me was going to pay for his coke later. Double payment. SMH.
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The classic broke pat scammer to keep it a buck white people in Africa try to scam free pussy using white skin privelege. If a white guy doesn't look like he has plenty of money but you could also go with the fact that if a white guy wants to hang out with you that's kind of a red flag because they generally keep their ideas about race despite living in Africa.
Sometime Asians will classify you as white and disparage Africans to you.
There's a difference between a frustrated expat in the bargaining phase of of the Ham but no burger issue in Africa and dissing Africans in general.
As much as I like Kenya I like infrastucture too and although things are cheaper, generally more available even a 24 hour Naivas ( to those who don't know Naivas is a high end grocery chain sorta like Jumbo or La Sirena in the DR) and the girls are easier to deal with for the price the DR has better infrastucture bang for the buck.
What I mean in If you live at the Seahorse In Caberete you're insulated from most parts of bad infrastucture you get an SUV and go to Puerta Plata for the La Sirena and there's no real difference from Miami.
Same thing in Kenya live in Upper Hill or Rundu and again no problems at all.
The difference is if you stay in say Las Terrazas in Sosua or say The Five Star phase 1 estate in Nairobi West the infrastucture difference would be noticable.
In a way this is unfair because there's tons more gringo owned and defenitely more patronized businesses which will demand better infrastucture than most places in Nairobi.
But again I'm rambling as long as you stay in Westlands or Parklands your good.
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Summary of my Nov 16th to Dec 11th trip to Nairobi.
1st thing I learned, Im ok being in Nairobi without a wingman. But it certainly is better having someone around who is on the same page as you. Where each looks out for each other. This trip I was more active on my own than my previous 2 visits.
I joined a gym nearby, which turned out to be a great idea. Prior to getting to Nairobi I had already started using my Tinder app again. Once I changed my geo location, the LIKES from the local women soared. I left Nairobi with over 3000 LIKES in my in box. And several direct messages. Just last night, I got a message from the very 1st Nairobi chick that contacted me on Badoo. She asked, what happened? I was waiting for you. Because at some point we were chatting on Whats app, and then I dropped off.
I told her that online dating was overwhelming. What I didnt say, is that I pursued the women that demonstrated strong interest, and was ready to meet. This lady seemed nice, but she just was not very proactive. It seemed like she was waiting for me to initiate everything. And as a local dealing with a foreigner, she could have offered some suggestions of things to do or places to go. In the end, I think I would have ended up with a starfish date. Paying for entertainment and food, and possibly getting nowhere.
The truth is, this trip, the only online connection I met face to face was Roxanne. The lady that lives 3 hrs from Westlands. Once I connected with her, I kinda left Tinder & Badoo alone. I had at least a half dozen chicks that I already exchanged Whatsapp info with. But the convos werent really going anywhere. Sometimes I just got tired of going through the same old routine on those sites, with me doing most of the work communicating. Plus, some of those chicks were just freelance hustlers or lunch/dinner whores looking to make a quick score.
Roxanne stood out from the pack. Her enthusiasm for meeting, quick to move to video calling. Had somethings to say. Actually was running her own business. All the others seemed more dependent on me pursuing them. And all appeared to be unemployed,and busted.
Roxanne living far away made it easier for me to continue my online pursuits if I wanted to. But then I met Restaurant Girl. She turned out to be worth pursuing. So now I have my hands full. My newly established contacts were prioritized over the dating sites. Plucking chicks from the clubs was another option. I only went out to the club once, had a decent session. Later the chick turned out to be a shark. She smelled blood but failed to bite when she had the opportunity. I got away cheap.
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Summary Continued .....
Being in Nairobi, and staying in the Westlands area has it's challenges. As a foreigner you are a target always. Many locals from Nairobi would love the chance to leave and go to another country where they can find work/opportunities.
And if that is not possible, many will hope to find a foreigner they can try to latch onto. As a foreigner you will never have to worry about locals not finding a way to take advantage of you. It's S.O.P. Prices of goods and services not marked or posted, you had better be prepared to negotiate. Or better still, have a local around to speak for you. And even that is not always helpful, because many people selling goods and services know that the item or service is for a foreigner. So they jack the prices up for "traitor" locals who are helping foreigners, and undermining their business.
A lot of locals selling goods and services have the mindset that a foreigner is getting away with something if they arent paying more for something than what a local would pay. After a while, it gets old and tired always having to deal with being treated like that.
Imagine living here full time and having to deal with being gringo taxed daily. The DR and Nairobi has some similarities. They both have lots of beat up looking vehicles and motorbikes on the road. They both have horrible traffic, bad driving habits , poor streets and sidewalks ( if they exist ).
Thailand on the other hand, Pattaya in particular is beautiful in comparison. Most vehicles and motorbikes on the road look well maintained. Their local transpo and taxi system is affordable, clean and safe. In Nairobi, I experienced several incidents where an accident almost occurred. Pedestrians are targets almost everywhere they are.
A question one might ask. Aside from mongering, and cheap pussy, is it really worth flying to Kenya for a vacation? My answer is still forth coming. Why? Because I have yet to travel much outside of Nairobi to see what else is available. I would like to check out some of the residential areas that have nice houses and apartments. Paved streets and sidewalks. Trees and beautiful landscapes. Less traffic, less hustle and bustle.
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So really, the low cost and ease of mongering or connecting to regular chicks can be the major draw to being here in Nairobi. Probably can say that for just about any African destination where the women are open to hooking up with foreigners.
Dealing with the African women in Nairobi reminds me of Haitians in the DR. Except that these Africans tend to dress better, have fancier clothes ( even if they are knockoffs ) wear better hair styles, and seem to have more fashion sense than many of the Haitian women Ive observed or experienced in the DR.
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Summary Continued .....
Being in Nairobi, and staying in the Westlands area has it's challenges. As a foreigner you are a target always. Many locals from Nairobi would love the chance to leave and go to another country where they can find work/opportunities.
And if that is not possible, many will hope to find a foreigner they can try to latch onto. As a foreigner you will never have to worry about locals not finding a way to take advantage of you. It's S.O.P. Prices of goods and services not marked or posted, you had better be prepared to negotiate. Or better still, have a local around to speak for you. And even that is not always helpful, because many people selling goods and services know that the item or service is for a foreigner. So they jack the prices up for "traitor" locals who are helping foreigners, and undermining their business.
A lot of locals selling goods and services have the mindset that a foreigner is getting away with something if they arent paying more for something than what a local would pay. After a while, it gets old and tired always having to deal with being treated like that.
Imagine living here full time and having to deal with being gringo taxed daily. The DR and Nairobi has some similarities. They both have lots of beat up looking vehicles and motorbikes on the road. They both have horrible traffic, bad driving habits , poor streets and sidewalks ( if they exist ).
Thailand on the other hand, Pattaya in particular is beautiful in comparison. Most vehicles and motorbikes on the road look well maintained. Their local transpo and taxi system is affordable, clean and safe. In Nairobi, I experienced several incidents where an accident almost occurred. Pedestrians are targets almost everywhere they are.
A question one might ask. Aside from mongering, and cheap pussy, is it really worth flying to Kenya for a vacation? My answer is still forth coming. Why? Because I have yet to travel much outside of Nairobi to see what else is available. I would like to check out some of the residential areas that have nice houses and apartments. Paved streets and sidewalks. Trees and beautiful landscapes. Less traffic, less hustle and bustle.
You're Thinking of Upper Hill and Rundu outside of that it's gated communities with their own infrastucture.
You kind of have to have a heart or Africa and like it for what it is. Other than going to the Big Malls and Navias there's no reason to try and save on say street food or some local trinkets beleive me you kind of don't really want to eat like a local the cleaniness standards are just not there.
For example I bought some Fresh Whole chicken at the Shoppers in TZ and after two days the chicken stank to high heaven I threw it out and even the wild dogs didn't want to eat it.
I bought the last 30 pack of eggs at Tusky's ( now out of business and the last big African owned chain in Kenya). I learned to never buy the last of anything the eggs were bad.
Never had a problem at Naivas sidenote Naivas, Tusky's and Nakrumatt/ Shoppers where all started in Nakuru ( which is almost a bedroom community of Nairobi at this point) obviously That French chain is good too.
Again I Love Africa and if half the people who criticize Sosua yet make 15 trips a year went to Kenya it would be what the DR is today infrastucture wise
The key to being in Kenya is staying in the Westlands and not reading the paper. The press is free and they report on the f--kery in Kenya and the mindboggling corruption.
To give you a glimpse of the f--kery Dubya started donating blood to Kenya because they didn't have a way to check to see if Blood was HIV infected all the other presidents except Trump continuted the program but Trump didn't dead it it was a 10 year deal that kept being renewed and Trump decided to not renew it. Like I said it was supposed to be intitally for 10 years so they could buy the equipment that allowed them to check for blood and the Kenyan Ministry of Health basically said f--k it why spend the money? we get free blood from the states anyway?
Of course anyone with money hops a plane to Dubai if they have as much as a toothache. They actually advertise the Heart Hospital in Abu Dhabi on Billboards , so why spend the money? Of course some local people got some infected blood and they got a House in Virginia.
But I'm supposed to convince you to return to Kenya so the best thing is you got all those cheap ass big butts and even the slickest "Slay Queen" tried to Blackmail you into paying more After she left and you stayed in a secured apartment.
To people reading this think of situations in Sosua where bitches bang on your door, theaten to break shit, Cops get called and they take her side and the biggie In Sosua You can be charged with Domestic Violence just by arguing with her and just by her reporting you no trial needed
In Kenya the corruption works for you way easier to bribe a cop so they hoes don't really try. The Kenyan Justice system is so slow by the time that your case comes up it will be years.
And the Kenyan government is pro foriegner there's been several cases where Foriegners killed a Kenyan girl and the foriegner was allowed to leave the country. That's very foul but it does benefit you.
Now if I said Go back to Kenya because you got 3500 Tinder likes and you sighed now you understand why I said there's a difference between a sexpat and an expat. I'd sigh too.
The wildlife is nice too.
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So really, the low cost and ease of mongering or connecting to regular chicks can be the major draw to being here in Nairobi. Probably can say that for just about any African destination where the women are open to hooking up with foreigners.
Dealing with the African women in Nairobi reminds me of Haitians in the DR. Except that these Africans tend to dress better, have fancier clothes ( even if they are knockoffs ) wear better hair styles, and seem to have more fashion sense than many of the Haitian women Ive observed or experienced in the DR.
I assume you mean Kenyans wearing African dresses and defenitely not the Leggings and sneakers that you see Haitianas and Dominicanas wearing on PC no way an African. lady including most prostittutes would wear anything highly accentuating their curves like that.
Same thing you get third world weaves and wigs unless the girl has money or a sponsor or she wears her hair natural.
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Since there's some censorship on shots let me say this you notice I didn't tell Murano to cheap out in Africa. I lived in Africa for Years, there was no cheap charlie behavior in Africa.
I bought some bad meat once and some bad eggs and that was the end of me buying fresh meat at anything other than an imported meat butcher shop in the Village Mall ( it's a high end Mall) or imported stuff from Carrefour's ( that was the name of the french chain). I never bought anything fresh from Kenya other than some fruits and Veggies.
Certianly didn't cheap out on housing either and I strongly suggest that nobody else tries to cheap out in Africa either ( going "high end" is still a little cheaper than the north coast not country the Shilling crash right now).
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I had plenty of options when it came to food. I had several restaurants near my Airbnb. The food court and Java House at the mall. Buying provisions at Naivas or Carrefour supermarkets. Ordering food and having it delivered. I was supposed to make it to Oyster Bay and The Loft but didnt make it. The convenience of having food delivered often trumped that idea.
The times we ordered food to be delivered, I avoided round trip taxi fare, heavy traffic, and other incidentals. We can be at home having a meal, watching a movie.
Both of the women I met, can cook. Im just not a fan of waiting a couple of hours for a cooked meal. I'd only let them cook because they want to.
They both are home bodies. Staying in for them, is no biggie.
Another positive about being in the Westlands, the Airbnb costs were very affordable. And there are many nice places one can stay. The downside for me, is that I was there when it rained alot at the beginning of my trip. The rain tapered off, but the cool temperatures remained. Especially at night.
Many of the hotels and Airbnbs may not have A/C. Because much of the time it is like Spring or Fall like temperatures. Im used to warm weather, so I felt the chill. Even the chicks were complaining about how cold it was in my apt at night.
What I liked about going to the mall, is that everything there was just normal day to day activity. I never saw any foreigners treated like they needed to be fleeced. Most of that 'get the foreigner' mentality came from locals that provided transportation, and the one visit to the restaurant near my Airbnb.
There were taxi drivers parked in front of the building daily. They were always staring at us hard because we stuck mostly to Bolt or Uber. A few times we did use the ones in front of the building, but we had to make sure they gave us our price. Several times, they jacked the price of a trip when we bothered to ask, how much.
And they usually had that bewildered look when we declined. What these drivers remind me of, is how stupid acting some of the DR locals are when dealing with foreigners. Them muthablubbers think that because were asking them the price for a trip, that we dont already know or have an idea of what the trip costs. Especially from the Uber or Bolt apps. It's not like they havent seen us using taxis almost daily.
Just like dealing with chicas in the DR. Im asking how much to make sure were on the same page. Im not asking how much because I dont know, and therefore you can come up with some ridiculous price. It just amazes me the dumb expression they have when they realize that we know they are over charging us.
And like the DR, being familiar with a local can work against you instead of in your favor. For instance, you hire a taxi to take you somewhere. You get a fair price. You try to use that driver again. This time you want to go somewhere else. When you step out of the building, he is looking for you to use him again because you both have done business before.
But that does not mean, doing business before is going to have him give you the best rate. It can go in a different direction. Now he tries to get you to possibly pay more, because you are supposed to think of him as your friend. Your go to driver. Nope. No consideration on price from prior business. Familiarity doesnt work in your favor. Same shit can happen in the DR.
A couple of the drivers in front of the building hounded us when we came out of the building. One in particular tried to shame me for using Bolt/Uber. Claiming that those services were undercutting them. I told the guy, his beef is with those services/apps not with me. Every Kenyan uses those services. Do you tell every Kenyan the same thing? Give me a price that I think is fair, and I'll use you. But Im not going to stop using them, just because you have a problem.
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Try to aviod going during the Long and short Rains it rains sparingly outside of those two periods. Plus the El Nino rains happened and they lead to flooding all over the region. El Nino happens every couple of years La Nina is the drought period which leads to game being at the waterholes longer if you wanted to see the wild life
The Long rains happen in April and the short rains happen in October other than that the weather is clear.
Coming from the DR you might need a jacket though
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So really, the low cost and ease of mongering or connecting to regular chicks can be the major draw to being here in Nairobi. Probably can say that for just about any African destination where the women are open to hooking up with foreigners.
Dealing with the African women in Nairobi reminds me of Haitians in the DR. Except that these Africans tend to dress better, have fancier clothes ( even if they are knockoffs ) wear better hair styles, and seem to have more fashion sense than many of the Haitian women Ive observed or experienced in the DR.
just based off of what i've seen in videos you are 100% correct
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Round Four. Booked a trip back to Nairobi for March. This time I have a different wingman that wants to come. This wont be the 1st time we met up at a destination. So we do have some level of compatibility as travel companions established already.
I wont have the problem with him, like that other guy who expected me to "come to the airport to pick him up". I gave this guy the information he would need once he arrives at the airport in Nairobi. Exchange $100 or get it from an ATM. Go to the Safaricom kiosk after getting his bags and get a local sim with data and phone services for a month. Put the M Pesa, Bolt and Uber apps on your phone ( before getting to Africa ). Set up the M Pesa account with the new Safaricom sim card before leaving the terminal.
Wifi is available in the terminal in case one forgets to install those apps. Once he has the sim card installed, he can use Bolt or Uber to come get him, instead of using those salivating unknown taxi drivers outside of the terminal. On the Uber or Bolt app, the fare is standard going to your Airbnb.
Most drivers will request taking the Expressway because it's faster. I highly recommend taking the Expressway. The toll going to the Westlands exit or to the airport exit has been 300ksh each way. Make sure the driver and you have the same understanding on what the extra charge will be to take the Expressway. Some drivers may lie and quote a higher toll charge, than the actual toll. ( Because they know you might not know ). When you pass through the toll, pay attention. The cost of the toll will be visible.
So once it's established that the driver will be taking the Expressway, the 300ksh can be added to whatever the cost is for the fare on the app. Tipping is not particularly necessary. Unless one wants to. And a tip does not need to be anymore than 100 to 200ksh. If your M-Pesa account is set up already ( you have to have a local Kenyan number 1st ) you can pay the driver from M Pesa , once you reach your destination.
If one intends to pay the driver cash, make sure you have exact change. Because just like in the DR, some of these drivers will swear that they dont have change. Thats why it's a good idea to exchange some money at the airport and get some of that currency in small denominations. And like the DR, if cash is used, always break up your large bills, so you can have smaller bills.
Funny, my last trip I used M Pesa 99% of the time for everything. I brought about $8,000ksh in a money clip, that I barely touched. M Pesa can be used for almost everything.
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This morning Restaurant Girl sends me a message letting me know what wine to buy from the Naivas 24hr market. She asks me to buy 3 bottles of Four Cousins Red and Sweet wine, claiming that she wants to get tipsy. Code language for, I want to f--k tonight. Three bottles was 3690 ksh. About $24 USD.
After I bought the wine, I went to the restaurant near my spot to have breakfast. They have a 700ksh breakfast. It consists of 2 eggs, toast, one beef sausage, one slice of beef bacon, one samosa, tea and juice.
There is this expat white guy that comes by this place daily. Weve chatted a few times when I was in the restaurant. Yesterday, he sat with me for more than 30 minutes. This time, the shady expat routine was starting to come through. He asks me can I pay for his tea. He gave me some lame excuse, I didnt pay much attention to.
He's a good talker. But I recognize his kind. Seen it dozens of time. Last visit he asked for my email. I gave him an email that I barely use. Our chat yesterday was different. This time he wanted to know if I would like to be a part of some business venture he's got going on.
He claimed that it involved setting up some remote server where I live. He insisted that "this doesnt require any supervision on your part" blah blah blah. I just told him that I got too much on my plate already. He backed off.
So now, this morning he comes around and sits with me again. The waiter passes by and he tells the waiter to bring him "another" coke. Were chatting, and I finish my breakfast. At about that time, he bids me farewell, safe journey.
I ask the waiter to bring me my bill. He doesnt bring me a bill, he brings me a piece of paper with 1400ksh on it. Ohhhh no you dont. Sir, thats not the price of the breakfast. And why do you have that other guys coke on my bill? Looking at the paper, this dude charged me 400ksh separately from the price of the breakfast. Claiming that this Delmonte juice was different than the usual juice.
I corrected him, because that was the same juice I had yesterday with the breakfast. So he leaves and consults with his co workers, and comes back with 1200ksh as the bill. I said that's still not correct. The breakfast is 700ksh. This time he goes to the computer, and produces a real bill with 700ksh, and apologizes for the mistake.
He walked off and never came back to check to see the payment on my phone. I had to go to the girl waitress to let her get a copy of the payment. She had the nerve to try to defend his actions as some innocent mistake. I left without offering a tip, like I usually do. Besides, the service charge is sort of accounted for in the pricing.
Meanwhile, I got another opportunity to see this slickster expat trying to get me to pay for something of his. One thing I see that I need to pay attention to, be careful giving strangers ( including friendly expats ) any information that they could use against you. In this case, I did not need to tell him when I was leaving. Im sure he knew that the restaurant was going to put his drink on my tab.
Now that I think about it, I dont think he had a coke previously. I believe he asked the waiter for that coke out loud for my benefit. So I would never suspect that when it was time to pay my own bill, his coke would end up on my tab. He would have plausible deniability if I ever were to run into him before I leave.
The other possibility, is that the waiter put his coke on my tab deliberately so he could pocket the money later. Knowing the guy sitting with me was going to pay for his coke later. Double payment. SMH.
Yeah I woulda chewed that mofo a new one - pretty much telling them how so many Africans love letting white people treat them like doormats.
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Yeah I woulda chewed that mofo a new one - pretty much telling them how so many Africans love letting white people treat them like doormats.
He deserved to be reprimanded for trying to pull that stunt. My concerns could have fell on deaf ears, if I complained to a manager. I believe the L he took served as his punishment. Because his scam failed, and he lost out on a tip.
My knee jerk reaction after that would be to never eat there again. But I decided to not let that one incident ruin one of my dining out choices. But I will be paying closer attention next time and see what happens.
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Change of plans. Im keeping my Airbnb reservation in the Westlands in March. But I decided to come earlier in February. Found a 2br 2.5 bath Airbnb in Kileleshwa. Booked from late February into April.
There is a lot of apartment buildings in the general area near Kilimani,Kileleshwa,Lavington , and other areas. I may look into the cost and availability of a 6 month to a year rental for a fully furnished apt.
The thing Im taking note of, is that there are so many Hi Rise buildings there. Many of them are not fully occupied yet. Also many new buildings are under construction. How the hell are these communities going to handle the major influx of people living in these areas, and the volume of traffic thats going to be produced?
What about the public water, sewer systems and power needs for these communities? In the next 3 to 5 yrs what is it going to be like living or even just trying to drive through these communities?
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This sounds like a nightmare…. I had a week in Nairobi this year, fell ill, and only had 1 day to monger.
November 2023. Im starting to like this destination a little more. This is my 3rd trip to Nairobi Kenya.
Checked in to my Airbnb in the Westlands area on a Thursday afternoon. Im in the same building as my other 2 visits, but in a different apt with a different host. These rentals in this building are affordable. They range from $37 to $62 a night, depending on the Airbnb host.
In this entire area Airbnbs are plentiful. I just happen to like this particular building. I believe the units in this building are all one BR, with 1 1/2 baths, kitchen ( with appliances and water cooler ), dining counter, dining room, with a washer. Im paying $45 a night, which includes all taxes.
Im 3 days ahead of my wingman who is supposed to arrive on the 19th of Nov.
My 1st victim was the chick Nasha from my last trip. Good juice, but a begging headache. I got her to come over in a taxi around 9pm. We had a quick drink at a restaurant nearby. Then went upstairs.
As expected and before bed, she started telling me about some event she was planning to go to next evening. At 1st, I thought she was inviting me to go with her to that event. But as it turned out, she was telling me about it, angling to get me to give her money.
Mind you, I never discussed payment with her for coming to spend time with me. Because she was pumping me up with how much she missed me. With that I was just going to give her some cash the next morning through M-Pesa ( digital payment system ).
My last visit in May, I had given her 4000 ksh ( about $23 at the time ) each morning when she was leaving. She was begging and angling then. Part of it is her fault, because she was and keeps acting like she is/was in love, and not a freelancer.
And assumed I was falling for that bullshit. So when I gave her money, I gave her what Id give a GF who could use some money for food for the day/night. Not strictly paying for services.
This is the Westlands area, many of the freelance chicks in the clubs or working on dating apps like Tinder, have much higher expectation$ on what they should get from clients. But I can see knowing how to move, a guy can pay much less by finding talent on his own without those sources.
That's not to say that every chick on Tinder ( etc ) or up in the clubs are expecting to get paid a lot for their time. Negotiations is very much a part of the culture here. So negotiating is expected here in Nairobi with just about anything that doesnt have a fixed price on it. There are a lot of women in this city. And it almost seems as if they have a greater need to have access to money even more than the freelancers in the DR. Which seems to make negotiating with Kenyans much easier.
Also, many of the freelance women here in Nairobi don't seem to have a unionized mindset, like it seems with the chicks in the DR.
So my chick Nasha gives me the details about her social event, but Im not paying it much mind. We ended up having a good welcome back session. I got up early. Didnt care to hit it again. I was annoyed somewhat because this chick was coughing much of the night after the session.
Then it dawned on me. She was sick the whole time. She was hiding it from me. Just like she did last time. When she came over with her son. Both of them were coughing. Tried to get me to give her extra money, pretending she was going to go to the hospital later that morning. I gave her 4000 ksh in May when she was leaving, and I gave her 5000 ksh the morning of this visit.
She brought up the social event again in the morning, asking me if I was going to give her money towards it. To which I declined, since I had just got there. Around 7pm later, she brought it up again. This time I told her that I never said I was giving her money for that. She had wanted 5000 ksh. But shit, her social events is not a priority or my responsibility. It's not for food, rent, or utilities.
Some of these chicks game is so weak and transparent that it's pathetic. Some of these chicks aint got nothing on many of the DR chicks when it comes to running game.
Since she was coughing all night, I used that to keep her away from me for a while. I can always get her to come over anytime I want in case I get the urge. I stopped taking her calls and texts because they were getting too frequent.
Including her trick calling me using another number. Lots of other fish in the sea. That about covers the 1st few days as far as women are concerned. The next chapter is about a Tinder chick I met, who travelled 3hrs to come see me, with her spending 3 days with me.
And me meeting a cute chick with a nice body yesterday at her job. A brief chat resulted in her suggesting that we exchange numbers. Cold approaching chicks with regular jobs here is a welcome change, from dealing with chicks always on the hustle. Just from our brief encounter and followup messages, the lady is already talking about cooking something for me.
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For some reason, Im getting the feeling that 2024 is going to be a good year, financially ( for foreigners ). I just found out that the exchange rate went up for foreigners in the DR. That prompted me to check the current USD exchange rate for the Kenyan shilling? That also went up for foreigners. It's now 157 to 1 USD.
When I was in Kenya last month, December, the exchange rate was hovering between 153 and 154 shilling for every 1 USD. Last May it was 131 Shilling to 1 USD. And my 1st visit to Kenya November 2022 it was around 123 shilling to 1 USD.
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Whats it like in Gayna, Have you been there?
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sore , GHANA is what I mean.
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sore , GHANA is what I mean.
Im interested in visiting Ghana. So far, my research of touring Ghana is coming by way of You Tubers. Several You Tubers are providing decent content. My road block to Ghana for now is their visa and Yellow Fever requirements.
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Yes i was in Nairobi in early 2019 and also went to Mombasa. But Nairobi is nice had fun.
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Nairobi Trip#4 Feb 25 2024 until April 2024
Recap :
I have an Airbnb this time in Kileleshwa section of Nairobi. This is an apartment I could live in full time. 2 BR, 2 1/2 baths. Full kitchen, living room, spacious balcony, washer and dryer. Only 10 minutes taxi ride from Westlands with no traffic. Add another 10 to 15 minutes with traffic. Price? $37 a day. A discount is applied for the 1st 30 days.
I will be entertaining Roxanne in this Airbnb. I will be staying in a Westlands Airbnb when I entertain Restaurant Girl in March. So I have to move smartly. Cant hang around the Westlands area until March when I check in to the other Airbnb.
Roxanne traveled her 3 hr journey to Nairobi and arrived on Tuesday @6am the 27th of Feb. Was supposed to stay for 2 nights, but she left to go back this morning ( Wednesday ). Im quite pleased with that turn of events, I like being solo. But before she left she put in some quality bedroom time, some cooking and tv watching. She's supposed to be back next week. TBH, I wouldnt care if she did not come back next week.
Now that shes gone, I see the potential of exploring for some new talent. I would consider contacting Nasha from my last visit. But I dont want to deal with her scheming and angling for more money, and/or her coming over here sick. She's the type of chick I would prefer to take to a short time hotel. Not allow her to come to where Im staying, ever again. Ill miss the good Juice though.
So far, Restaurant Girl doesnt suspect that I am in Nairobi. She thinks Im still at my last destination. When March comes, it may be Roxanne that I will have to convince that I have left Nairobi. Providing were still connected.
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Security here at my Airbnb in Kileleshwa.
This is an 11 story high rise building. Its very obvious that this is a residential building. Along with Airbnb units. There are 3 guards on duty in the day, and 3 three different guards on duty at night.
I can see the guards shack and the street from my balcony. If needed I can easily get their attention from my balcony. Wasnt expecting it. But they held Roxanne's ID at their station, until she retrieved it this morning. No complaints from me on their procedures.
At this building, I really dont see much interaction with the guards and tenants. In other words, I doubt very much that anybody is going out of their way to tip security here.
I did make one observation, or sensed something. I believe when a foreigner guest shows up, I believe the guards are kinda hoping that the Airbnb guest will be the type to start tipping and doing things for them. Whereas it seems nobody else living here is doing anything for them. Mainly treating them like they are doing their job.
With that, I took my own advice. I have taken note of how they interact with me when Im coming and going. I cant help but suspect that the guards are hoping they will see some generosity coming from a foreigner. Mainly because foreigners, especially Americans, they are expected to tip.
For the time being, I havent tipped anybody. Just exchanging greetings and pleasantries. I feel the urge to maybe order some food for them. But I dont want to repeat the pattern I established at the Airbnb I stayed at in Westlands. The day time guards here, they kind of keep a low profile. My guess is, they are trained not to get to chummy with the people coming and going. Plus these day time guards are all young. Probably arent comfortable or dont really know how to strike up a conversation.
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I just remembered something. When I arrived to this building by taxi. I never gave the guards any ID or documents. Just the apartment/unit I was going to. It's very possible, my arrival and where I was staying was brought to the guards attention by the Airbnb host.
One of the young guards helped me with my luggage and escorted me to my apartment door.
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I said this trip I was going to scale back on tipping/buying food and acting like a typical American. I must say, I feel sort of relieved at the moment. I started practicing that policy since Ive been here in Kileleshwa. My 1st two days here at my new Airbnb, Ive been moving like a typical resident here.
I know that if I started tipping and doing favors for these guards, they would start acting different towards me. I really dont need that fake friendship. Or putting a target on my back. Or making me seem like just another American that leads with his wallet.
I truly feel that is how some of them perceive us, even though we think spending our money on them makes them like us more. It doesnt. In some cases they can have contempt for the fact that you are flaunting your money in their faces as if we are looking down on them.
And feel they NEED to be compensated. People worldwide take advantage of foreigners who come to a country with their conditioned thinking of feeling sorry or taking responsibility for locals circumstances. Meanwhile, nobody else living or staying there is doing what foreigners do. Like paying extra for security to do their jobs.
The real test will be in March when I stay at my building in the Westlands. All the guards there know me. They have benefitted from my generosity before. Lets see how I operate with them this visit. Will I be able to resist the temptation to tip or buy food? The answer is yes. Ive done the same thing, where I live in Sosua.
What typically happens in Sosua, once you stop giving, thats when you see a different vibe coming from the receivers. Almost right away. Now I will get the chance to see how these guards behave when I phase out the unnecessary gifting.
I can start by not offering any money, unless they provide a direct service to me. Even when it comes to offering them food or snacks, I can scale back the frequency of doing that. Especially doing it so early in my stay.
What will help, is seeing how they behave towards me when they notice that Im not giving them money or food like I did before. If their attitude changes, that will only work in my favor, and against them ever getting anything more from me, than me paying for a specific service they provide.
Thing was, I never gave them the chance to see how they act when there are no extra bennies. Like some men dont realize their women dont give a shit about them, until the gravy train stops.
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I said this trip I was going to scale back on tipping/buying food and acting like a typical American. I must say, I feel sort of relieved at the moment. I started practicing that policy since Ive been here in Kileleshwa. My 1st two days here at my new Airbnb, Ive been moving like a typical resident here.
I know that if I started tipping and doing favors for these guards, they would start acting different towards me. I really dont need that fake friendship. Or putting a target on my back. Or making me seem like just another American that leads with his wallet.
I truly feel that is how some of them perceive us, even though we think spending our money on them makes them like us more. It doesnt. In some cases they can have contempt for the fact that you are flaunting your money in their faces as if we are looking down on them.
And feel they NEED to be compensated. People worldwide take advantage of foreigners who come to a country with their conditioned thinking of feeling sorry or taking responsibility for locals circumstances. Meanwhile, nobody else living or staying there is doing what foreigners do. Like paying extra for security to do their jobs.
The real test will be in March when I stay at my building in the Westlands. All the guards there know me. They have benefitted from my generosity before. Lets see how I operate with them this visit. Will I be able to resist the temptation to tip or buy food? The answer is yes. Ive done the same thing, where I live in Sosua.
What typically happens in Sosua, once you stop giving, thats when you see a different vibe coming from the receivers. Almost right away. Now I will get the chance to see how these guards behave when I phase out the unnecessary gifting.
I can start by not offering any money, unless they provide a direct service to me. Even when it comes to offering them food or snacks, I can scale back the frequency of doing that, until I dont doing it completely. Especially doing it so early in my stay.
What will help, is seeing how they behave towards me when they notice that Im not giving them money or food like I did before. If their attitude changes, that will only work in my favor, and against them ever getting anything more from me, than me paying for a specific service they provide.
Thing was, I never gave them the chance to see how they act when there are no extra bennies. Like some men dont realize their women dont give a shit about them, until the gravy train stops.
You sold me on that philosophy on tipping, brother. And it sounds like it's the correct approach for your current place. It kind of sucks that people will try to take advantage of the people generous enough to tip. I think it makes sense that the Westlands staff will come to learn and appreciate the value of your generosity after they figure out that tipping isn't just a given. Compensating them after a direct service will make it clear that it's something to be earned, not just charity.
It's also a good idea to directly establish this relationship, i.e. you do something for me and then you'll be compensated, because it seems like nuance is lost on a lot of Kenyans.
In my conversations to this point at least, nuance and implying things almost always gets lost in translation somehow with Kenyans. Whether that's intentional so they can feign ignorance when they don't uphold their part of the bargain, or it's legitimate misunderstanding, I don't know. It doesn't really matter if the end result of you getting taken advantage of is the same.
Seems like the golden rule when interacting with Kenyans is being firm and upfront about what's expected and what will be rewarded.
Sounds like the trip is off to a good start, brother. These reports are great; got me wanting my April trip to get here already.
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@Sosuaplaya, I copy that and concur.
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Here's an observation. Which ties in to how enough locals will start to expect something, the moment you start giving them something. Feels very much like how chicks operate in the DR.
Restaurant Girl. My last visit in Nov/Dec I volunteered to pay a months prepaid phone service for her. Guess what happens a month later and Im not even there?
Chick tells me her package is about to expire. She doesnt exactly ask me to buy another monthly package for her. She just drops the hint. The prepaid package only costs 1000ksh. But instead of buying her own package, she expects me to pay it.
The old, you are the man and I know you want to stay in touch me , logic.
Before me, she handled her phone needs on her own. Thats one thing I took note of. The 2nd thing is, I gave her one of my powerbanks last trip. A couple of weeks ago, she told me that the thing is dead and she cant get it to charge. But here's the thing. That powerbank is sort of an old model, but gets the job done. You have to charge it with the cable I gave her. She tried to charge it with the same cable she uses to charge her phone. Which wont work.
And thats another problem with some of these women. A lot of them are way behind when it comes to technology and the things we use skillfully daily. So I told her what she needed to do to charge the device. The next time I asked her about it, I told her to give it back to me so I can see whats wrong with it.
She made up some story about not knowing where the gadget is. She said it might be at work, or wherever.
When she told me that she had to look for it, that told me something about her. 1. She didnt know how to use the gadget. 2. She probably gave it away or sold it. 3. Rather than coming clean she tried to gaslight me claiming it may be in her locker at work.
Whatever the case is, thats two strikes against her. However, I wont throw the baby out with the bath water. I know how to make adjustments. I can easily adjust how generous I am on her behalf. I made sure I let her know that I was paying attention to how she takes care of something given to her.
Basically what these women reinforce with me, is how dealing with them is always transactional in nature. Even when a man tries to get away from that with them. And it's my duty to myself to keep things balanced, with them earning what they get from me.
Being generous it seems has no significant value and no place with enough of these African women. Things we do for them, are taken for granted. Kindness is perceived as a weakness with enough locals.
Enough of these women still look at us as the rich foreigner who can and should make up for their deficits. And they use us being men to reinforce that entitlement mentality in themselves. That being in receive mode is the right place for them to be.
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Roxannes issues :
Before Roxanne came, I went to the supermarket to buy groceries. What I expected from her, was to cook breakfast for us. When it came time to cook, this chick was dumbfounded in the kitchen.
It's like she didnt know what to do 1st. She saw the packaged beef bacon, and seemed intimidated by that. When it came to using the flat griddle and frying pan to make the eggs and beef bacon, I saw cluelessness. There was no electric toaster for the bread, so I knew we would have to toast the bread on the flat griddle. She couldnt or didnt want to figure that out either.
This 40yr old woman (with 3 kids ) didnt know how or was scared of using what we had to work with. She's a pass the buck kind of chick.
Mind you, I am no cook by any means. But I can figure out how to scramble some eggs, heat up some breakfast meat and toast some bread. I had to take over and show her what to do. The next morning, she made an attempt to cook the same food, but she was clearly lost in the kitchen. The only thing she could do is wash everything and clean the mess.
I thought to myself. What the hell could this woman do for me as a GF or a wife if she doesnt know how to improvise preparing breakfast for a man and her family in the kitchen? You mean to tell me, the only kitchen she feels comfortable cooking in is in her own kitchen? Or the only meals she knows how to prepare is what she is accustomed to in her house?
Her problems occur in several other areas. She is limited in her knowledge outside of her world. And if she cant figure shit out, she gets frustrated and aborts. Like putting in the password in her phone to the Airbnb. The password was Cresc3nt. She was having trouble entering the password on her phone keyboard.
Then she hands the phone to me, with me refusing to take it. I made her put the password in herself.
The day before I came I looked up the Bolt taxi fare for her from Westlands where she gets off the bus, to where Im staying in Kileleshwa. It was only 250 ksh. The day she arrives in Westlands, she tells me a taxi approached her and will charge her 500ksh to my place.
IMO finding out what the fare is to get somewhere is something she should be able to do herself.
Im thinking, why are you entertaining some taxi driver quoting you twice the fare? I told her to just get a Bolt taxi. Then she claims she doesnt remember how to use the Bolt app. This is what gets me about some people that dont use their heads or cant think on their feet. If you dont know how to do something, why dont you take the time to learn how to do it before you need it?
I already showed her how to use the Bolt app my last visit. I know grown ass men like this. Some men wont do any research to solve a problem. Half the time, I dont know what the solution is until I troubleshoot the problem myself.
Anyway, she figured it out, and ordered her Bolt. The fare ended up being only 200ksh. The thing I'm taking note of in her regard. Is that if I had encouraged her to get the taxi from the guy asking for 500ksh she would have took it, because she wasnt paying for it.
What that also suggests to me, that she would be a lousy team player in terms of having my back when dealing with locals. She has no backbone or spine when it comes to supporting foreigners, dealing with locals. Deep down what happens to my wallet is acceptable unless Im the one not accepting it.
That doesnt mean that she is a bad person or sinister in her thinking. It's just that enough locals look at foreigners as walking ATMs who dont seem to care much about what stuff costs. They arent necessarily thinking about foreigners, caring about the principle of not being overcharged.
I asked her why was she thinking about taking that taxi for 500ksh, when we found out the fare was only 250ksh on Bolt before I got there? I got crickets. The bottom line, it wasn't her money that was being wasted. So she didnt care how much the taxi was if I'm paying.
The lady has good juice and good company. But she wouldnt be someone I can depend on to have my back dealing with locals. If anything, I have to watch my own back when dealing with her. She can be a liability.
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More on Roxanne :
I brought an old but good bluetooth headset to give her. What she had was a knockoff set of buds that look like the iphone buds. Horrible sound.
Thats another thing. If you point out something that is wrong to a chick, the chick will come back with expecting you to solve the problem for her. Thats what happened when I told her that her earbuds sound terrible during our calls.
"Oh so I dont sound clear to you on the other end?" "Ok, then buy me what you think will work". Sounds very Dominican Republic to me.
Thats how a chick can flip their problems on you to solve. Once you show that you care, they want their problems to become your problem. Lucky for her, that I had an old set that hasn't been used for years just lying around. I figured. For her, these earbuds will be a major step up from her knockoffs.
However, the typical thing can ( not necessarily will ) happen. Once you start doing things for some of these African women, their attitude may change from being happy with a nice surprise to an expectation of a guy keeping it up. And later, their expectations can ( not necessarily will ) evolve into demanding a man to do things. It can be subtle or more forward. Directly or indirectly.
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From Restaurant Girl today :
"Carino is it ok if we organize for house help for me for the period that you will be around? It will be hard on my side to balance myself for you, the kids, work and domestic chores. At least for the duration that you will be around."
Here we go, indirect p4p at it's best. Some cats coming to Nairobi for their 1st visit, and only there for a couple of weeks, hoping to smash a variety of chicks, would they want to have to go this route just to kick it with a chick?
Before I agree to anything, I need to know exactly what she needs the money for, and when? How is she managing her chores and her kids now, without my help?
How about the days when her and I are not together? Especially the days she's not working and we wont see each other?
Here's her 1st problem with me. Using Whatsapp to make a request like this, instead of calling me and asking me voice to voice. With her explaining in detail what the situation is. I dont like when people try to get shit without confronting the person.
Last November one of my old Flipina regulars contacted me by Whatsapp to ask me for money for her birthday and her daughters BD. Never mentioned how much she wanted. I find that type of communication disturbing. Somebody asking for money but wont call you to be personable. Mind you, I havent been with this chick for months after I left the Philippines in 2022. The last time I heard from her, she was supposedly in the province.
I messaged her back and asked how much, but to call me so we can talk about it. She texted me 6000 pesos, but did not call like I requested. Of course I didnt send her any money. Why should I? Im not important enough to talk to, but you can ask me for help by text.
And thats going to be a problem for Restaurant Girl. This isnt the 1st time she did something like this. When we met in December, we had been talking for a few days , even on the phone. She texted me one night to tell me that she had two kids.
I took note of that, because she could have told me that on a call or face to face. But she chose to text me that information instead. And now she is doing it again, this time by asking for help by text instead of telling me in a phone call. Or even waiting until I get there, so we can talk about her situation, and what type of help she is requesting.
One of the reasons she and others do this, is because they know what they are asking is not really supposed to be some mans responsibility. It's sort of a shit test. To see what you do. They dont want to look the individual in the eye. They dont want to confront the people personally who they are using. So they choose the passive approach to get what they want.
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Restaurant Girl's situation is actually easy for me to handle. If I decide to offer some financial help, Im just going to deduct those expenses from whatever I would give her upon me leaving Nairobi.
Sort of like her having a balance/bank from the canteen at a summer camp. Upon my departure, last trip, I gifted her 20,000 ksh, and gave her whatever food and supplies I had left over.
This time, I can deduct her "help" expenses from the money I would have given her upon my departure. Im also bearing in mind, that she should be contributing to her expenses too. Not me taking on the whole tab.
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Here's a twist. I never responded to Restaurant Girls's "help" request by text message. My silence or failure to respond may have spooked her. She deleted her message. I read her message, even though my reading it wasnt recorded on her end.
Her deleting her message did me a favor, because I was going to tell her that we will talk about it, when I get there. Now, I wont mention her request or concerns unless she brings it up.
That's not what she wanted originally. She wanted to throw out the shit test bait passively, and hope to get a commitment out of me without having to confront me, face to face. If I had accepted and agreed to something through that form of communication, I would have confirmed that I was a thirsty simp.
Especially since I have no idea of how much $help$ she is expecting. And she knows that I dont know. This 2nd visit is bringing out "some strange and unsettling plans below the surface." LOL.
Now imagine her trying to date a local Kenyan man. Would she ask a Kenyan man with an average job, and salary to help her organize house help just so she can spend time with him? I doubt it, unless she was dealing with a man that makes some good money.
When I met the chick and she finally told me that she had two kids, she already had a relative looking after her kids even before she met me. We have spent limited time together since I met her. She only spent one night with me. When she was off, she was able to get her chores or cleaning done at home.
The days she worked, I didnt always see her when she got off. She would go straight home. I was a non factor from keeping her from doing anything she needed to do.
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Restaurant Girl again :
"Honestly, you've made me look and feel like a bad girl for not responding to my text. I wish I had not texted you."
Interesting, she's blaming me for her guilty feelings, instead of taking responsibility. How about, she shouldnt be asking for money like that, and using that as bait to validate her availability.
I havent even connected with her yet, and she's already got it figured out that she expects me to pay for her to be available when I get with her. We dont even know when we will see each other, to warrant her needing house help.
What's apparent here, is that this chick is only focused on HER feelings. Not how she may have made me feel by her raggedy request by text.
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WTF, Your feelings!!! Too funny. She seems to know what your looking for! You got called out.
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why just don't deal with straight putas??
You'll be saving all the drama and headaches ::)
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HOES BE HOES. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. If you paid her the first time, "SHE'S A HOE" i got one I've been seeing 8 yr's , I still have to pay her at the end of the week. The game may be different in Kenya, but chicas always want money.
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why just don't deal with straight putas??
You'll be saving all the drama and headaches ::)
Why just dont deal with straight putas? Why should I limit myself to putas in a country and on a continent I have never been to until recently? Im not on any specific timeframe where I have to get as much juice in, before I have to get back to my home country.
Im free to deal with women here from all aspects. And so far, thats just what Ive been doing. Ive dealt with putas, and now Im dealing with other women coming from a different perspective, and seeing how they operate as well.
I expect to be able to do something's with some women here, that I wont be doing with straight putas. Im not stressed over encountering drama or headaches. That goes with the territory when dealing with women period. It's not like Im pursuing a relationship or trying to make a life here. Im simply on vacation.
By the time Im done this trip, I will have broadened my perspective of more African women here, than just straight p4p chicks.
And lastly, Im providing a trip report, with almost real time details & information for those that are curious about how some women operate here, and what it's like being here.
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HOES BE HOES. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. If you paid her the first time, "SHE'S A HOE" i got one I've been seeing 8 yr's , I still have to pay her at the end of the week. The game may be different in Kenya, but chicas always want money.
The P4P or hypergamus mentality is innately embedded in a female's psyche. I think we've already established that, and made it abundantly clear here, and everywhere on TMBTS. Nobody should be disillusioned here when it comes to dealing with women.
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And lastly no real info!
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And lastly no real info!
Several others did obtain info, they appreciated the content. You are nothing but a troll. So dont come back to this thread.
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I comment on whats posted.
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Thats ok, I know exactly what to do for individuals trying to f--k up a thread with their trolling bullshit comments.
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Immigration, Visa Information for Kenya :
For those who do not have an existing Kenyan visa, this is the link to the e-Travel Authorization "Visa Free" portal. Which started the beginning of January 2024. https://www.etakenya.go.ke/en (https://www.etakenya.go.ke/en)
For those who want to apply for other Visas through the Kenyan immigration portal, this is the link for that. https://ecitizen.go.ke/en/ (https://ecitizen.go.ke/en/)
In late 2022, I applied for and received a 5yr Travel Visa for Kenya. I used it 3 times. Last time I used it was November 16th 2023.
I expected to use it again for my February 2024 trip. But in Dec 2023, while contemplating a return trip, I decided to ALSO apply for an East African Travel Visa. So I could visit Kenya, Uganda or Rwanda on that Visa. That Visa is good for 90 days. And you have to enter Kenya 1st, before visiting any of the other two countries.
I learned a lesson. Dont apply for any Kenyan Visa too far in advance. What happens, if you apply months in advance, when you get approval, they start your Visa the day you get your approval, which might only be a few days or a week after you applied. In the application, you are giving them the dates you will actually arrive in Kenya.
Their Visa system, or their incompetent staff, totally ignore the date you give as your arrival, and instead start your Visa when the Visa is approved. I dont need the visa to start when it's approved. I need the visa to start when I arrive.
The 5 yr Visa was approved way ahead of my arrival, but it didnt matter that much because my Visa was for 5 yrs. I only lost a few months. Plus I was happy that it was approved. I applied for the East African Travel Visa for this trip, and it was approved way in advance of my arrival. I didnt realize that was going to happen again. My Visa being approved way in advance of my arrival.
This time, it matters, because that EATV is only good for 90 days. I got approved in Dec 2023, and my original arrival was supposed to be March 2024. Makes no sense whatsover.
If you try to contact immigration, you get nowhere. Nobody to talk to by phone, and the email system is useless. So I was stuck with my EATV, with dates that did not coincide with my actual stay in Africa.
Then in January 2024, Kenya made an announcement. They were going Visa free. Meaning, if you are coming to Kenya, you do not need to apply for a visa. They set up a different portal for visitors to apply for what they call an "E-Travel Authorization".
Within this portal, you apply by giving them the same information that you would if applying for a Visa. Passport info, upload a passport photo, your accommodations, dates of arrival and departure etc. When it was time to pay, it cost me $34.09 USD.
Took me 3 full days before getting my approval online. I copied, and printed out the document.
Guess what? When I get to Kenya immigration February 26, 2024, I gave the agent my East African Travel Visa. And held back the E-Travel Authorization document. The immigration officer told me that I wasted my time and money applying for the e-Travel Authorization through the new system. He said my 5yr Visa or my East African Travel Visa both were all I needed for entry. I had a strange feeling, that shit was going to happen.
And why not? Thats a slick way for Kenya to get more money out of people by not disclosing information about the fact one does not need to apply through the new portal, if they are already existing Visa holders.
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Oh one good thing happened when I gave the Kenyan immigration officer my East African Travel Visa. They modified that Visa to coincide with my actual entry into Kenya. And they added a document/entry to my passport to reflect it. So my arrival into Kenya started off on the right foot.
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Restaurant Girl again :
"Honestly, you've made me look and feel like a bad girl for not responding to my text. I wish I had not texted you."
Interesting, she's blaming me for her guilty feelings, instead of taking responsibility. How about, she shouldnt be asking for money like that, and using that as bait to validate her availability.
I havent even connected with her yet, and she's already got it figured out that she expects me to pay for her to be available when I get with her. We dont even know when we will see each other, to warrant her needing house help.
What's apparent here, is that this chick is only focused on HER feelings. Not how she may have made me feel by her raggedy request by text.
f--k getting blamed for shit that goes wrong or if they have problemd guess, what they blame you,, the pity me routine !
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HOES BE HOES. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. If you paid her the first time, "SHE'S A HOE" i got one I've been seeing 8 yr's , I still have to pay her at the end of the week. The game may be different in Kenya, but chicas always want money.
The P4P or hypergamus mentality is innately embedded in a female's psyche. I think we've already established that, and made it abundantly clear here, and everywhere on TMBTS. Nobody should be disillusioned here when it comes to dealing with women.
You can look at it 7 ways to Sunday,, its paying for pussy P4P access to the toto,,, the quest is real !!
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One down , one to go.
Ms Roxanne, came back Tuesday afternoon and left Thursday morning. Direct cost? 10,330 ksh. Thats about $73 USD. Multiple hits, massages, and cooked meals. No theft, no drama, and no headaches.
By Monday @noon, I will occupy my 2nd Airbnb in the Westlands. There I can entertain Restaurant Girl when she isnt working. Until then, I can check out some Tinder prospects. Or maybe encounter a chick while in my travels in Kileleshwa.
Looking forward to rejoining the gym in Westlands. I feel physically much better here in Nairobi than in the Philippines. The air quality sucks where I reside there.
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why just don't deal with straight putas??
You'll be saving all the drama and headaches ::)
You actually don't have to deal with staright putas in Africa. It's kinda hard to explain but I will say that outside of hoe towns basically if a woman wants something and she knows you can and will provide it most women have no problem doing something strange for some change.
When people talk about Rat theives in Sosua they're what old timers would call hardleg hoes just like you chicaproof the room they follow standard hoe practices.
I remember a chick in the states linking with me at the strip club following me to my house in her car f--king me several times then falling asleep. That was against standard hoe practice but she was tired and as my standard practice I gave her money (which was never discussed) AFTER she got dressed she accepted.
One time I staright up asked another girl why she accepted money after I f--ked in fact I had to get the money from the ATM she said it was because she felt that she could trust me.
She was correct.
The point is especially in Africa if you happen. to see a pretty girl and you're willing and she's willing it can happen, In Fact when I was in Africa other than twice in Sabina Joy once in Liddoes and a massage parlor chick I never f--ked straight putas in Africa everything was organic meetings.
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HOES BE HOES. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. If you paid her the first time, "SHE'S A HOE" i got one I've been seeing 8 yr's , I still have to pay her at the end of the week. The game may be different in Kenya, but chicas always want money.
The P4P or hypergamus mentality is innately embedded in a female's psyche. I think we've already established that, and made it abundantly clear here, and everywhere on TMBTS. Nobody should be disillusioned here when it comes to dealing with women.
I have a zillion stories about Female nature. One time I was working a temp job and I saw a chick I knew back in the day was not my direct supervisor but a supervisor nonetheless. We talked and she agreed to see me I asked her did it feel wierd to her and she said no.
Women are like Men in some ways and different in others not saying all women wouldn't but generally speaking show me a woman who covets something that she does have and as long as you thinks you'll practice discretion and honor her boundaries she generally doesn't have a problem f--king for money.
Most women don't really see a problem with it.
Speaking of Sosua those girls come from all over the Island from all walks of life ( at least they used to) The average girl you meet in Sosua isn't staright up full time putas.
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Relocated my body to my Westlands Airbnb. My Airbnb in Kileleshwa still in my possession until April. Upon arrival, I was heartily greeted by 2 of the security guards.
I got my key from the keybox and checked in. After an hour I went to Naivas supermarket to supplement my groceries. I brought my groceries with me from my other Airbnb. In my comings and goings, I stuck to my guns. By only exchanging greetings and pleasantries with security.
No money. So far not even any gifts of food or drinks. And why should I, I have only been here 3 nights. But more and more, as I reflected on my gift giving on previous trips, I overdid it giving the guards money, and Food.
Technically, when you think about it, nobody should feel inclined or motivated to pay the security extra for doing their job, they already get paid for. Especially in a residential building where nobody else is tipping guards. If this was a hotel mainly for mongers, maybe things might be different.
Interesting thing, I had an over 2 hour chat with my cleaning lady. She told me, that the female security guard that works the day shift, is not a good person. She has been asking guests for money directly. This same guard she was the recipient of my gifting before. She texted me back in January when I wasnt in Kenya.
The only thing is, she did not ask for anything, but I also didnt respond to the text. The cleaning lady and I both agreed, that had I responded to the text, the security guard would have asked me for money. But because I did not respond, it never went any further.
My cleaning lady is a wealth of information based on her observations and experience working for Airbnb hosts. She told me that she observed my wing mans girl going through his bags when he went to the bathroom.
She also told me that his girl has been to the building before with other men. Another incident was this one American black guy that was seeing a Kenyan woman for at least a year. Apparently she was married but the guy had no clue about it.
This one time, the husband got him a room nearby so he could spy on his wife. Apparently she would give her husband some believable story of where she was going. But this time he wanted to see for himself. The husband went to where the woman and the guy were having food. And confronted them.
According to the cleaning lady, the black guy told her, that the woman was dead silent and super embarrassed. The black guy told the guy that all of this time he thought he had an exclusive relationship, and was planning to marry the woman.
The situation ended peacefully. The guy apologized for the situation, but made it clear that he was totally unaware of her status. The husband/man, held no bad feelings towards the man.
My cleaning lady told me, that this sort of thing is quite common with many of these women here. Made me think about my situation with the 2 women Im dealing with. Thing is, Im way ahead in my awareness when it comes to not trusting any of these women. I met Roxanne on Tinder. She came to see me and spent 3 days with me right off the bat.
I already believed that this was and is a routine for her. And all of that love bombing, and missing you crap is just a put on. The sooner I reinforce that potential reality, the more I wont be falling for the charade. Take full control and deal with them on my terms and my schedule. There is nothing Im doing wrong with me looking out for my own interests 1st. After all, these chicks are still benefitting if and when I make time for them.
Restaurant Girl the same thing. This chick didnt tell me up front that she had 2 kids, and when she told me, she told me in a text message instead of face to face. She may very well have a boyfriend or husband somewhere, reaping the benefits of what she can get out of a foreigner.
To be continued .......
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With Restaurant Girl. Prior to my arrival this chick sent me a text asking me if I could pay for house help while Im there and when she comes to see me. I ignored the text.
She deleted it, and came back claiming I made her feel like a bad girl.
Okay, so now that Im here, I knew that we were going to get into it about the house help situation. 1st off, I told her I dont respond to texts like that, requesting financial help. I expect a person to call me, or we talk about it face to face. Especially when I dont know what the details are. She was being sneaky because she wanted a commitment without having to face me.
I dont know why she needed me to pay for house help ( I do know why ) when I presume she is already paying for house help? I told her, we dont even know how many days we will see each other while Im here. I knew that she was going to be sticking to her work schedule. To which I was fine with. I dont want to see her every day/night.anyway.
So exactly when was this need for house help supposed to kick in? I got no answers other than her trying to convince me that I would be doing it so she would be available to me. When what it really looks like to me, is that she devised a plausible way to get me to give her money for something that she would have to pay herself anyway.
This is a very common thing, just about anywhere. Women use convenient ways and excuses to try to get money from men who are dealing with them. They typically dont expect the men to question the reasons. Especially when what they are asking isnt much. But it is important to them. They expect men to jump to the rescue or solve some woman's alleged problem, just because she asks. This trip it's going to be different for her, dealing with me.
She saw and experienced too much generosity from me, on my last visit. Same with the security guards and the other cleaning girls. The girls that cleaned my Airbnb last visit found out I was here. Both came by and rang my doorbell to say hi. Probably hoping I would be blessing them with some more $$$ on this trip.
As far as Im concerned, me and the chick each should take care of our own expenses. I paid a grip in airfare, and accommodations to be here. Plus I figured Id be paying for her entertainment and transpo while Im here. So exactly what will she contribute besides providing her juice box? Chick wouldnt even cook breakfast for us, the next morning. But wants me to pay for her alleged house help?
Moreover, the chick had the audacity to be late coming to my place. Something she did when I was here in Nov-Dec. Lucky for her, I was sort of occupied while waiting for her to come. Plus, I was going to take it out on the juice box eventually.
Her 1st welcome back visit was not stressful or a loss. In fact it was very entertaining & satisfying. We handled our business. The next day she was supposed to go to work at 3pm. So far, things are ok. I havent paid her directly for anything yet, except for a burger and fries, and the wine we had the previous night.
So far she's paid her taxis coming and going. I havent given her the 5000 ksh yet, that she claims is what the housekeeper will get paid. I figure what's the rush? Im good for it. I can adjust any amount I gift her when Im ready to leave.
Now I'll just see what happens next. Next thing you know they will come at you with some other financial scheme. It always starts off in small requests, and increases with increments, where a guy might not give it much thought. Before he knows it, the requests get bigger, more creative, and more frequent.
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The cleaning lady shared another interesting incident. A Kenyan woman who is connected to a Mzungu ( white man ). Boyfriend, husband I forgot which. She was financially good.
She was on vacation staying in an Airbnb in my building here in Westlands. She invited about 4 or 5 Kenyan women she knew to come visit her at her Airbnb. They partied and got drunk.
At some point, one of the girls managed to steal about $100,000 shillings from the woman's M-Pesa account. But even after that was done, all the girls stayed in the apartment like nothing happened. Eventually the girl found out the money was missing, and she reported the money missing to the Airbnb host and my cleaning lady.
According to the cleaning lady, she told them they had to leave, because there were only supposed to be 2 guests visiting. Not the amount that was there. The police was called, and the situation was sorted out at the police station.
They found the money that was transferred to the phone of one of the girls that was invited. The host girl recovered her money, and the visiting girls got in trouble.
This is just one more f--ked up thing one needs to know about how enough Kenyans are. Scamming and stealing is quite common. Even Roxanne told me about Kenyan women stealing from her clothing store. They will come in pairs. One distracts , while the other steals.
Another thing they do is buy goods or services with M-Pesa, and then reverse the transaction. Leaving the business owner with a loss.
My Bolt taxi ride from Kileleshwa was posted as 290 ksh. I ordered a 4 passenger car, because I needed room for my bags. The car still was a compact vehicle. The driver saw I was a foreigner. When it was time to load my bags in the car he claimed that it cost more money because of luggage.
I quickly debunked that BS. It could have been two people with only the bags I had, and the price would still be the same. I asked him why was he trying to charge me more money when Im only one person?
I thought the DR was consistently bad when it comes to corruption and scamming, but Im quickly seeing that scamming, stealing, scheming and begging is just as bad here in Nairobi, if not worse.
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
I hear you. The thing is, for a guy just going on vacation why would he need to fly so far, and pay so much , if he can get his needs met closer to home? Even with all of the scamming and scheming going on in the DR, if a guy has regulars, it shouldnt matter how f--ked up the rest of the scene is.
I used to have regulars in Sosua for a number of years. Before I started traveling more, I had to finally phase some of them out, because it was costing too much money, and it was wearing my ass out.
Plus when I left the DR to travel or live elsewhere my connection to my regulars fell off. They all had moved on, and werent readily available anymore. Some even became less desirable. Like gaining a lot of weight, or more hardcore.
The one thing Sosua has maintained for me, was the camaraderie and fellowship among the men that visit or live there. That has been the main thing that Ive enjoyed and still enjoy to this day. It's one of my main reasons for why I still like living in Sosua.
Now that I have several visits under my belt here in Nairobi, Im glad I had a chance to see it for myself. Nairobi has some very nice looking neighborhoods and scenary. One could live like a king here. But sooner or later one will eventually have to interact with people who are out to scam or scheme.
In the DR, and especially in Sosua, it's much easier to tolerate what goes on there, because the negative stuff is not always in your face every hour and every day you are there. Plus because the volume of foreigners represented there, one can feel safer and secure in Sosua. Law enforcement while in Sosua does not f--k with foreigners that much , as long as you dont put yourself in a bad position.
Here in Nairobi, Im not exposed to a lot of foreigners I would socialize with. So one can kinda feel like he is here alone. And I dont see myself establishing long term meaningful genuine friendship with locals.
Foreigners here in Nairobi almost act more like they dont want to be bothered. Thats sort of the same thing I see in the Philippines and in Thailand. Unless you are a part of a click or group of guys that know each other. You can be invisible. In Sosua, some my most enjoyable and memorable interactions came from meeting strangers.
It didnt matter what color or race you were, of course with a few exceptions. I met some f--ked up guys in Sosua. Some were Canadians, some were Americans, some German, Italians and Russians.
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I still think it's a good idea to travel around the world. Mongering should not be a man's main motivation for visiting a destination.
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I still think it's a good idea to travel around the world. Mongering should not be a man's main motivation for visiting a destination.
Safety is always #1 in my book, followed by costs. I also like to escape Winter too so timing is important. On the opposite end of the spectrum, me personally...I'm not traveling anywhere unless there's some decent box that's easily available. There's no way in heck I'm going to be caught in any hardcore Muslim countries for that reason, no matter how much culture they have.
Honestly, I don't blame anyone who puts mongering high on the list for the reason to travel. It's hard enough to get decent looking tail in the West, so who am I to judge anyone who wants to put mongering as a high priority? I do agree, it certainly should not be your first and only reason to travel.
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I still think it's a good idea to travel around the world. Mongering should not be a man's main motivation for visiting a destination.
Safety is always #1 in my book, followed by costs. I also like to escape Winter too so timing is important. On the opposite end of the spectrum, me personally...I'm not traveling anywhere unless there's some decent box that's easily available. There's no way in heck I'm going to be caught in any hardcore Muslim countries for that reason, no matter how much culture they have.
Honestly, I don't blame anyone who puts mongering high on the list for the reason to travel. It's hard enough to get decent looking tail in the West, so who am I to judge anyone who wants to put mongering as a high priority? I do agree, it certainly should not be your first and only reason to travel.
Agreed, But I hope I wasnt giving out the impression that I was blaming anyone for putting mongering high on their list? Maybe I expressed my comment inappropriately.
What I was trying to convey, is that sometimes what one hears about a particular destination doesnt necessarily mean that one will experience the same thing. Im willing to admit being wrong, or even inexperienced on many things when it comes to places Ive been.
Through the years I have met tons of guys that were afraid to come to the DR/Sosua based on what they heard. Meanwhile the whole time, I never experienced all of that negativity or felt that my safety was in jeopardy. If I hadnt come to see for myself, I would have only relied on negative reports, and never got to see the positive.
Of course I do understand that each individual has to discern whats best for himself in every aspect. Including the fact his circumstances may be unique. His ability to travel. Time constraints. Obligations and commitments. My situation may be a lot different than some guys. Im older. Im retired.
I already live abroad, and can live abroad long periods of time as well. So I can afford to put in more time, as I see fit. And Im probably not as sexually active as I used to be either. That can play a role too. Other guys may organize their priorities according to what works best for them. I understand that and have accepted that reality.
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
So far flights for Thailand at the cheapest are around 1060 from the south and to Kenya is 860. Thailand was fun and great food. Still curious about Kenya and want to visit. Need 6 weeks either country
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
So far flights for Thailand at the cheapest are around 1060 from the south and to Kenya is 860. Thailand was fun and great food. Still curious about Kenya and want to visit. Need 6 weeks either country
One things for sure. I have not even touched the surface in regards to what Kenya/Nairobi has to offer. My experience here in Kenya IMO has been extremely limited. Plus I wish i would have started coming here 10 to 20 yrs ago.
Before I got back to Nairobi, the chicks on Tinder were disappointing. But after I got back here, and my location showed I am in Nairobi, I noticed that the selection of chicks has improved. My LIKE inbox is showing over 4,400 likes. Im sure I can find 10% out of that number of chicks to check out.
I also feel one can cold approach women here in Nairobi. If I wasnt already dealing with the 2 chicks from my last visit, I would be trying to meet a lot more women in my movements. I havent been to any clubs this trip. Many of the fly nice looking chicks one will find there. Any guy much younger than me would do well.
The good thing for me, I dont look my age. And age doesnt seem to be an issue here anyway.
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A buddy of mine from the states is coming to Nairobi on the 21st of March. He will stay in my Airbnb in Kileleshwa. But get this, for only a week. I think his R/T ticket is in the $800 plus range. Ive seen guys do stuff like this. Come to the DR for a day, and jump back on a plane to go home.
This same friend has been to the Philippines a few times. The last time he only stayed a week. Stayed at my place, and was nice enough to cook a few meals. Got with a couple of chicks while in the Philippines, and went back home. His work situation makes it easy for him to do stuff like that.
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
So far flights for Thailand at the cheapest are around 1060 from the south and to Kenya is 860. Thailand was fun and great food. Still curious about Kenya and want to visit. Need 6 weeks either country
Exactly, and since I'm still in working career, I can't afford to really take weeks off to vacation...yet.
You guys both bring awesome points, which is why forums like this are extremely valuable to bounce off ideas and concerns. No matter how you slice it, 6 weeks off and 1000 dollars for a flight, not including lodging, is a commitment not many people have the luxury of utilizing, especially in prime earning years or have family commitments.
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A buddy of mine from the states is coming to Nairobi on the 21st of March. He will stay in my Airbnb in Kileleshwa. But get this, for only a week. I think his R/T ticket is in the $800 plus range. Ive seen guys do stuff like this. Come to the DR for a day, and jump back on a plane to go home.
This same friend has been to the Philippines a few times. The last time he only stayed a week. Stayed at my place, and was nice enough to cook a few meals. Got with a couple of chicks while in the Philippines, and went back home. His work situation makes it easy for him to do stuff like that.
If I'm spending 800 dollars on a flight, I'm staying a MINIMUM 3 weeks. Heck, even in Sosua I like to stay minimum 7 days and 11 is my sweet spot. I have no idea how these weekend warrior do it...
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Yes I'm with you.Makes no sense to go that far for a week, even to DR. it's too short a trip for me.
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
So far flights for Thailand at the cheapest are around 1060 from the south and to Kenya is 860. Thailand was fun and great food. Still curious about Kenya and want to visit. Need 6 weeks either country
Exactly, and since I'm still in working career, I can't afford to really take weeks off to vacation...yet.
You guys both bring awesome points, which is why forums like this are extremely valuable to bounce off ideas and concerns. No matter how you slice it, 6 weeks off and 1000 dollars for a flight, not including lodging, is a commitment not many people have the luxury of utilizing, especially in prime earning years or have family commitments.
I sacrificed a 6 figure job to make under 35k annually because I like to be gone 3-4 months out the year, possibly more as time goes on. No kids, just an understanding lady. I own my spot and make passive income here and there. Money doesn’t guide me, just need to pay bills and travel and grow. Not even about mongering because in a month of Thailand I hit under 10 chics, was occupied going to a different city every 3-5 days. I seen Phuket, Koh phi phi, Krabi, KPN, Koh Samui, Bangkok, Pattaya, Chiangmai and another city my entire time there.
I intend to slow down after June or July but who can really predict the future
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I just don't know what to make of this??? Understanding Lady!! WTF, in what world ? If this is for real Bro she's doing the same as you at home when your gone.
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A buddy of mine from the states is coming to Nairobi on the 21st of March. He will stay in my Airbnb in Kileleshwa. But get this, for only a week. I think his R/T ticket is in the $800 plus range. Ive seen guys do stuff like this. Come to the DR for a day, and jump back on a plane to go home.
This same friend has been to the Philippines a few times. The last time he only stayed a week. Stayed at my place, and was nice enough to cook a few meals. Got with a couple of chicks while in the Philippines, and went back home. His work situation makes it easy for him to do stuff like that.
If I'm spending 800 dollars on a flight, I'm staying a MINIMUM 3 weeks. Heck, even in Sosua I like to stay minimum 7 days and 11 is my sweet spot. I have no idea how these weekend warrior do it...
Ive been like that from the beginning. Trying to stay as long as I could when I vacationed in the DR, and when I started living there. When I started traveling further abroad, I too felt I couldnt go for less than 3 weeks.
Ive maintained that MO ever since. I can stay somewhere for 3 months before I have the urge to travel. But depending where I am, the urge to travel can kick in after a month or two.
I can stay the longest in the DR standing on my head. Less in the Philippines, because I dont think it's healthy there where I stay. A month and a half to two months is enough in the Philippines. I stayed in Pattaya for 3 weeks in Sept/Oct, and that was just enough for me.
My real test was during the pandemic. I lived in my Sosua spot for 15 months before I decided to travel anywhere. That shows me how comfortable living in the DR/Sosua was for me. I dont feel as comfortable living anywhere else. Although I did 2 long stints in the Philippines. But that was just a feeling out period, and me being relieved to get back into my place after being locked out of the country for almost 3 yrs, and still was paying rent.
Nairobi Kenya does not yet grab me as a place I would want to live for any extended period of time. I love the tropical weather in the DR. It's very therapeutic. Some may not know it, but Nairobi Kenya can get chilly here. It's not raging hot like some might think.
Many of the locals here can be seen wearing coats and knit hats at certain times. Wearing shorts is not very common here, except if one is exercising. Or the days when it is warm in Nairobi. It's usually much warmer near the coast, like in Mombasa.
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I just don't know what to make of this??? Understanding Lady!! WTF, in what world ? If this is for real Bro she's doing the same as you at home when your gone.
im not a swinger, we not married. My chic just knows that I travel a lot. I been traveling before we got together, and I hit places with and without her. I don’t think about what she may or may not be doing. Wife, GF or situationship, if a female wants different dick, it can happen in a car, in a hotel or in your house. We live hours apart in a long distance relationship so it’s possible. I just make sure to spend a few days in the city with her before or after my trips. Outside of that I can give a shit less, we don’t have a kid or own property together so a breakup won’t leave me in financial ruin.
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
With a month to go b4 my trip Im noticing too, how the cons outweigh the pros when it comes to Kenya. Comparing the Sosua and Kenyan Tinder matches immediately makes u wanna run to the D.R. The Kenyan ladies are all on some different shit. This paranoid chick from Nairobi picked apart my WhatsApp number believing that I wasn’t from the USA. Stupid bitch didn’t notice the USA country code of +1 and confused the area code with it. Countless chicks that are extremely overprotective and paranoid like scams are an everyday occurrence there. Just seems like they are projecting out what they might b doin. Btw I have been f--kin this 55plus older lady from Costa Rica here in the Matrix. She shocked me when she told me there are Black women like her in C.R. She’s from the Limon area, are any u cats familiar with it?
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At first, it seemed that Kenya is a womans paradise that I believe was hidden. After reading these reports, I'm starting to have second thoughts on spending 1000 dollars on a ticket to deal with all the scamming that you'd get at the Su. At least in Sosua you got camaraderie with other Americans, cheap flight tickets, and point and click box. Call me lazy, but Sosua is looking better and better the more I go and the more I read about, and experience, other options like Colombia (Carty and Medy), Kenya (Nairobi), Costa Rica (Jaco) and Mexico (Tijuana). Each have their issues. I still haven't gotten to Thailand because of flight costs and time.
With a month to go b4 my trip Im noticing too, how the cons outweigh the pros when it comes to Kenya. Comparing the Sosua and Kenyan Tinder matches immediately makes u wanna run to the D.R. The Kenyan ladies are all on some different shit. This paranoid chick from Nairobi picked apart my WhatsApp number believing that I wasn’t from the USA. Stupid bitch didn’t notice the USA country code of +1 and confused the area code with it. Countless chicks that are extremely overprotective and paranoid like scams are an everyday occurrence there. Just seems like they are projecting out what they might b doin. Btw I have been f--kin this 55plus older lady from Costa Rica here in the Matrix. She shocked me when she told me there are Black women like her in C.R. She’s from the Limon area, are any u cats familiar with it?
I have to relaize the US eductaional system is f--ked up.
short answer yes there's Black people in CR especially in Puerto Limon.
However I wouldn't go there looking for p4p.
As far as Kenya I wouldn't waste time pipelining you'll meet badder chicks just walking around.
That being said if you're expecting Sosua and just being able to walk down P.C. and talking the first girl who grabs your junk you'll be disappointed. Shit is much lower Key in Kenya.
Frankly although I think that it's important that Brothers go to Africa if you're going to p4p only it's better than you cancel and just go to Sosua.
being in a place where you have to delevop your monger eye and catch the suttle hints that a woman is on the game is hard for hardcore Sosua and Pattaya addicts.
The worst women in Africa are the ones on the apps you realy don't need them if you can listen to the clues that a woman is interested.
If you know what you're doing in Nairobi your problem would not be meeting a woman it would be getting them to leave.
Totally different problem than trying to negotiate LT in Sosua on a busy federal holiday weekend.
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It's time for OPERATION PHASE OUT!
Restaurant Girl, RED FLAGS & STRIKES.
1. Trying to get me to pay for an expense that she already pays each month, house help. Thinks just because she is coming to see me, I should be paying for her monthly house help while I am there. Meanwhile, Im already paying for meals, and taxi.....and was going to give her some parting cash like last time. ( I was going to scale down how much, since she likes me so much ). :)
2. Told me that she doesnt want to feel or appear like a gold digger. So she's looking for her expectations to be fulfilled by a man without her having to ask the man. Has entitlements, but expects the man to figure out how to solve a problem she presents.
3.Does not have an ID, carries a photo copy of some document.
4. Her M-Pesa account she uses appears to be somebody elses, not her own. Or it's hers, and she uses a different name than the one she gave me?
5. No mention of inviting me to where she lives. ( Not that I want to visit or meet her kids ) But I find it odd, that a woman acting like she's establishing a relationship, doesnt do much except come over to eat, f--k , go home or go to work. Not to mention, she really doesnt ask me anything about myself. She only knows superficial stuff. And stuff I volunteer. But thats a typical trait of enough women.
6. Has been late on a couple of occasions, and/or dragged her feet when doing things around me. But I do not see her being late when it comes to things, she deems important. Like going to work.
7. Claims to have 2 kids, back in Dec. But the more I think about it, the kids she showed me in a picture may not even be her kids. Never talks about her kids or herself. She's a mystery. A man, boyfriend or husband may be in the background, until I leave.
8. I observed pictures of her taking solo shots, that appear as if she was on a date. I could care less about that, but the point is, she is trying to sell me on the idea that she is looking at me as her new foreigner boyfriend. I can see this is all long game behavior. Why wouldnt it be?
She knows I dont live there, and it might be another 3 or 4 months before I return. Meanwhile, she can try to set me up for the long game. Just like the story the Airbnb cleaning lady told me. That guy thought he was going to marry the lady. It's amazing how far and deep a chick will go in her deception.
This one has no clue if I am aware of whats going on. As far as she is probably concerned, she's got me in the bag. Im playing the "Im enamored with you too" position myself.
9. On a scale of 1-10 she rated herself a 9 in terms of level of selfish/self-centered ness. I can see it myself. Her whole focus is mainly about her and her concerns and sensitivities. She doesnt even try to fake like I matter. Her giving me the juice, is her worthy contribution. And I allow her to keep coming back. So to her, I must be good.
10. She has a blamer personality. She doesnt seem to take responsibility for her own psychological issues and/or insecurities. She acts as if a man is only supposed to understand her, and make adjustments accordingly. When faced with logic coming from the man, she may appear to concede to his perspective, but deep down only her feelings and concerns matter. The men ( foreigners ) are her tools, and saviors.
11. Her phone is on complete silence during the time she is with me. Of course mine is too. LOL which means we both have something to hide. The difference? She isnt bringing much to the table. She stands to benefit more from me than me from her.
12. I dont see her as any different than other opportunistic African women, when it comes to how they operate when they are involved with foreigners.
13. The powerbank I gave her, mysteriously disappeared. Gave me some lame excuse, claiming she cant find it. Thinks she left it at work. She was lying. She gave it away or sold it. I helped her get her phone fixed, last trip. Come back this trip, and the display is already f--ked up again.
I can tell it was fixed, because this time you can see the display better. So basically she is irresponsible. She needs to be left alone to solve her own problems. Especially since she doesnt really appreciate when a man steps in to help. To her, she is doing a man a favor giving him something to do.
14. She refused to cook food for us when I had food in the fridge. It also would have saved me some money. Money that could have easily went to her so called house help fund.
15. She's a rollercoaster of emotions, entitlements and illogical expectations. She doesnt take advice or constructive criticism very well. It's obvious the chick needs counseling. She watches and listens to assbackwards programming from tv, social media, and other women in the same boat. But at least, she has nympho tendencies that seem to make up for where she lacks in character.
16. In spite of the particulars, its been a nice and affordable ride with her. But it's time to throw this fish back in the pond. There is just one small thing to do. She left some of her things in my place. So I have some choices. I could ride this out and get more juice, or just end this peacefully. Which is probably the better option.
It's best that I dont invite her to my place. But to bring her stuff to her. There's no telling how this chick may react, if she thinks her financial benefactor decides to bail sooner than expected.
One last thing, anyone that would assume dealing with a prostitute is supposedly better than dealing with a chick like this? Think again, even straight up p4p chicks can come with their own set of unique problems and dangers.
And with them, since they may not have much going on, they can end up causing more problems or damage than a chick who seemingly has more to lose. This woman doesnt represent every other African woman I may encounter, she only represents herself. There are a lot of fish in this sea. And a lot of things to do to keep someone occupied.
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One last thing, anyone that would assume dealing with a prostitute is supposedly better than dealing with a chick like this? Think again, even straight up p4p chicks can come with their own set of unique problems and dangers. And with them, since they may not have much going on, they can end up causing more problems or damage than a chick who seemingly has more to lose.
Always love your posts but I disagree with that statement.
If you're spending more than 1 hour with P4P women sure, but for the most part out of my dozens of encounters, I can count on one hand bad encounters. Both parties after 40 min are in and out. Unless you are a poor negotiator, or don't chicka proof your room, or are drunk off your ass things run pretty smooth. I don't doubt bad stuff happens, but it's difficult to have a calamity occur in less than an hour if you're alert and of sound mind. Remember, you're paying for them (and their issues) to leave.
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One last thing, anyone that would assume dealing with a prostitute is supposedly better than dealing with a chick like this? Think again, even straight up p4p chicks can come with their own set of unique problems and dangers. And with them, since they may not have much going on, they can end up causing more problems or damage than a chick who seemingly has more to lose.
Always love your posts but I disagree with that statement.
If you're spending more than 1 hour with P4P women sure, but for the most part out of my dozens of encounters, I can count on one hand bad encounters. Both parties after 40 min are in and out. Unless you are a poor negotiator, or don't chicka proof your room, or are drunk off your ass things run pretty smooth. I don't doubt bad stuff happens, but it's difficult to have a calamity occur in less than an hour if you're alert and of sound mind. Remember, you're paying for them (and their issues) to leave.
I will amend my statement. What I said applies to me and what I am able to put up with or tolerate. It does not necessarily have to apply to anybody else, nor should anybody take it as if I am speaking for them.
Each man has his own skill set, including his willingness or ability to use situations and encounters for learning and/or entertainment purposes. I like and welcome challenges.
I also know how to make adjustments along the way. I do what works for me. I probably wouldnt recommend anyone do things the way I do.
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One last thing, anyone that would assume dealing with a prostitute is supposedly better than dealing with a chick like this? Think again, even straight up p4p chicks can come with their own set of unique problems and dangers. And with them, since they may not have much going on, they can end up causing more problems or damage than a chick who seemingly has more to lose.
Always love your posts but I disagree with that statement.
If you're spending more than 1 hour with P4P women sure, but for the most part out of my dozens of encounters, I can count on one hand bad encounters. Both parties after 40 min are in and out. Unless you are a poor negotiator, or don't chicka proof your room, or are drunk off your ass things run pretty smooth. I don't doubt bad stuff happens, but it's difficult to have a calamity occur in less than an hour if you're alert and of sound mind. Remember, you're paying for them (and their issues) to leave.
BTW, Im not sure we have a disagreement. You mentioned a time frame in dealing with a prostitute, when I was just speaking about dealing with prostitutes in general as opposed to non pros. What you offered I wouldnt disagree with. You outlined a situation where there may be less risk. Less time, less risk. I dont disagree with that. Makes perfect sense.
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It's time for OPERATION PHASE OUT!
Restaurant Girl, RED FLAGS & STRIKES.
1. Trying to get me to pay for an expense that she already pays each month, house help. Thinks just because she is coming to see me, I should be paying for her monthly house help while I am there. Meanwhile, Im already paying for meals, and taxi.....and was going to give her some parting cash like last time. ( I was going to scale down how much, since she likes me so much ). :)
2. Told me that she doesnt want to feel or appear like a gold digger. So she's looking for her expectations to be fulfilled by a man without her having to ask the man. Has entitlements, but expects the man to figure out how to solve a problem she presents.
3.Does not have an ID, carries a photo copy of some document.
4. Her M-Pesa account she uses appears to be somebody elses, not her own. Or it's hers, and she uses a different name than the one she gave me?
5. No mention of inviting me to where she lives. ( Not that I want to visit or meet her kids ) But I find it odd, that a woman acting like she's establishing a relationship, doesnt do much except come over to eat, f--k , go home or go to work. Not to mention, she really doesnt ask me anything about myself. She only knows superficial stuff. And stuff I volunteer. But thats a typical trait of enough women.
6. Has been late on a couple of occasions, and/or dragged her feet when doing things around me. But I do not see her being late when it comes to things, she deems important. Like going to work.
7. Claims to have 2 kids, back in Dec. But the more I think about it, the kids she showed me in a picture may not even be her kids. Never talks about her kids or herself. She's a mystery. A man, boyfriend or husband may be in the background, until I leave.
8. I observed pictures of her taking solo shots, that appear as if she was on a date. I could care less about that, but the point is, she is trying to sell me on the idea that she is looking at me as her new foreigner boyfriend. I can see this is all long game behavior. Why wouldnt it be?
She knows I dont live there, and it might be another 3 or 4 months before I return. Meanwhile, she can try to set me up for the long game. Just like the story the Airbnb cleaning lady told me. That guy thought he was going to marry the lady. It's amazing how far and deep a chick will go in her deception.
This one has no clue if I am aware of whats going on. As far as she is probably concerned, she's got me in the bag. Im playing the "Im enamored with you too" position myself.
9. On a scale of 1-10 she rated herself a 9 in terms of level of selfish/self-centered ness. I can see it myself. Her whole focus is mainly about her and her concerns and sensitivities. She doesnt even try to fake like I matter. Her giving me the juice, is her worthy contribution. And I allow her to keep coming back. So to her, I must be good.
10. She has a blamer personality. She doesnt seem to take responsibility for her own psychological issues and/or insecurities. She acts as if a man is only supposed to understand her, and make adjustments accordingly. When faced with logic coming from the man, she may appear to concede to his perspective, but deep down only her feelings and concerns matter. The men ( foreigners ) are her tools, and saviors.
11. Her phone is on complete silence during the time she is with me. Of course mine is too. LOL which means we both have something to hide. The difference? She isnt bringing much to the table. She stands to benefit more from me than me from her.
12. I dont see her as any different than other opportunistic African women, when it comes to how they operate when they are involved with foreigners.
13. The powerbank I gave her, mysteriously disappeared. Gave me some lame excuse, claiming she cant find it. Thinks she left it at work. She was lying. She gave it away or sold it. I helped her get her phone fixed, last trip. Come back this trip, and the display is already f--ked up again.
I can tell it was fixed, because this time you can see the display better. So basically she is irresponsible. She needs to be left alone to solve her own problems. Especially since she doesnt really appreciate when a man steps in to help. To her, she is doing a man a favor giving him something to do.
14. She refused to cook food for us when I had food in the fridge. It also would have saved me some money. Money that could have easily went to her so called house help fund.
15. She's a rollercoaster of emotions, entitlements and illogical expectations. She doesnt take advice or constructive criticism very well. It's obvious the chick needs counseling. She watches and listens to assbackwards programming from tv, social media, and other women in the same boat. But at least, she has nympho tendencies that seem to make up for where she lacks in character.
16. In spite of the particulars, its been a nice and affordable ride with her. But it's time to throw this fish back in the pond. There is just one small thing to do. She left some of her things in my place. So I have some choices. I could ride this out and get more juice, or just end this peacefully. Which is probably the better option.
It's best that I dont invite her to my place. But to bring her stuff to her. There's no telling how this chick may react, if she thinks her financial benefactor decides to bail sooner than expected.
One last thing, anyone that would assume dealing with a prostitute is supposedly better than dealing with a chick like this? Think again, even straight up p4p chicks can come with their own set of unique problems and dangers.
And with them, since they may not have much going on, they can end up causing more problems or damage than a chick who seemingly has more to lose. This woman doesnt represent every other African woman I may encounter, she only represents herself. There are a lot of fish in this sea. And a lot of things to do to keep someone occupied.
I wouldn't get too involved with any one chick in Kenya. I'd treat them the same way you would if you met them on PC.
Kikuyu women in general are red flags.
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I thought about something in regards to time. A prostitute with bad intentions beyond simply making quick cash, and knowing she has only a small window of opportunity to work with could potentially present risk any man woulddnt want, even though it's less time engaged with a client.
In Sosua for example, dozens of guys have had things stolen from them from ST chicks. Dozens of guys over the years have had chicks flip the script and did bait and switching on prices. Dozens of p4p chicks cheated men out of what they hired them for. No sex, no head....came to work on their period. Some of these are just inconveniences while other behaviors are major violations.
In Colombia, I'd bet enough guys would choose the drama Im talking about coming from a chick, as opposed to the potential of being drugged or robbed by a ST chick. P4P chicks with bad intentions tend to strike early, rather than playing the long game, like a chick just being a selfish nutcase. Both are hoping to latch onto a sucker whose on vacation. Once the guy and girl are done with each other, any potential threat is gone.
Point being, like I indicated before.....p4p chicks come with their own unique problems and dangers. Some of those things might be manifested much quicker, than a supposedly non pro chick acting like she is playing the long game. If the guy is only dealing with a non pro chick on a vacation, he may not necessarily experience a greater risk, unless there is something specific the woman is doing to make it more risky or dangerous for the guy.
I recall my p4p connection I met up at Brew Bistro in Westlands. That chick posed a greater risk to me, than Restaurant Girl. It all depends on the circumstances. We can add or take away variables from any type of arrangement to show how risk, or damage can be a problem.
With Restaurant Girl, if all goes well, the only detriment of dealing with her was experiencing her overly selfish personality. Id take that over that Brew Bistro chick that was trying to extort money, and trying to threaten or intimidate me. In both situations, technically I didnt lose anything. I didnt lose a woman or a relationship.
I got good juice from each of them. Both of them didnt cost much. It's just each presented different forms of unfavorable behavior. These are the costs and inconveniences a man may encounter when dealing with enough women. Thats why i dont prioritize one arrangement over another. I see value and potential for detriments dealing with all types of arrangements.
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The thing to consider, my goal of being here is not simply to get my needs met, concentrationg on doing it with minimal cost and drama. Although that would be ideal. My goal here is to experience women and specifically the people from various POV and points of reference. So far, Ive experienced some interesting things dealing with some of the people here.
As for women, I have experienced straight up p4p with a couple of chicks.
I have experienced a non pro chick from the country/county, and a non pro chick that lives in the city. And a chick from the coast ( Mombasa ). Ive gathered intel and opinions of local men and local women about their own people. Ive watched YT content as well, and made some interesting observations.
I also observed how the women were that my wingman was dealing with. Here and in Mombasa. So my movements and interactions is not about being as efficient as I can with dealing with women. My goal and interest is in seeing how things are with all types of people ( women primarily of course ).
So if it looks like Im not going about doing something the way someone else would do it, thats just fine. I have my own way of doing things. Im not in Sosua right now where I would be in a much more familiar habitat. Im on safari in a different land and environment. Some trial and error may take place from time to time.
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Ive been doing quite well in the gifting department. My Kileleshwa Airbnb, Ive had very little interaction with the security guards there. I never started any gifting, so I didnt create any expectations.
My Westlands Airbnb, so far I havent did any gifting with any of the guards there. Ive stuck to offering greetings and pleasantries only. In my comings and goings, I keep it moving. Besides, as far as Im concerned, I gave them enough last trip to carry over for this trip.
My cleaning lady told me that the day time female guard has gotten in trouble for asking Airbnb guests directly for money. So it's possible that she and the rest of the guards, know they better be careful or they could lose their jobs.
But that may not stop them from hoping for voluntary contributions from guests. Especially from guests like me, that offered food and tips in the past.
Another thing I found out. One of my young cleaning girls from my last trip, is still working for the Airbnb host who she claimed fired her. Last trip, she came to my apartment on my last day, to tell me she got fired for something she did. She tried to get sympathy money from me. Which she did.
What ended up happening, she was only let go for a few days, and then she was allowed to come back to work. My older cleaning lady told me what happened. So technically the girl was never fired like she told me. Her coming to me was just a slick way of hoping I would increase what I would normally give her for her cleaning my place.
I was told she was suspended because she was busted going in a guests fridge, and giving stuff to the security staff downstairs. My cleaning lady said, they are not supposed to be going in anybodies fridge unless the guest has checked out.
This young lady and her other young cleaning accomplice both had my number, because we would contact each other in regard to cleaning my place. But both of them having my number led to them texting me when I was not even in Kenya.
And the chick that took the food from the fridge, she texted me back in January asking me to send her 200ksh so she could get home from work. I didnt respond to the text. But they both sure looked happy to see me when I returned, this trip. LOL
What both young ladies dont know, I recorded them acting rather sneaky and suspicious in my BR on my last visit. I could tell that they were church girls too. But still very sneaky when it comes to plotting and seeing opportunities.
Even though this doesnt have anything to do with me getting with chicks, Im still paying attention to how other women act in a different capacity. My older cleaning lady said, in her line of work it's important that they also have to watch their own backs when guests bring trouble with them.
Because very often, the cleaning staff are the 1st ones to get the blame if something ends up missing or broken. Those 2 girls are rather young, whereas the older cleaning lady has a lot more experience and is probably less likely to risk losing her job over some petty foolishness.
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speaking on cleaning ladies usually women just post up at any high end estate, When you see a Cleaning lady employed by someone it means that lady is efficient and trust worthy.
If you hire someone it's better to just give them some food in the fridge and especially what you have on the last day because they will steal something.
It's not even considered stealing by them you're stinking rich compared to them. Trust me in places like Kibra is on the level of Port au Prince degregation without (most of) the violence.
I ran Airbnb's and I had house girls ( maids) that didn't mean small shit didn't come up missing.
I would advise against going the GF route especially not being there and especially not with a Kikuyu but if you did understand that if she asks you for money she kinda needs it if not for her herself for her family.
90% of Nairobi residents that I know grew up in the Village. That could mean a regional city like say Eldoret or you could mean literally a hut near the Ugandan border, My ex grew up partially in Eldoret and was born in Mt, Elgon which is deep in the bush near a park.
The point is again Kenya is somewhat like living in New York and living in Haiti outide of Port au Prince the rich are super rich and the poor are desparately poor. Circumstances can change in an instant my ex and her boss lost their lace of business in electon riots in the Westlands where shit doesnt usually happen.
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I dont go along with the notion that a cleaning lady employed by someone means that lady is efficient or trustworthy. We can presuppose thats the case, which Ive done on many occasions. But one could very well be dead wrong about a particular cleaning lady. For instance, a cleaning lady that is new. Or one that doesnt have much experience? It may take time before a recently hired cleaning lady is determined to be efficient and trustworthy.
Im sure there are some cleaning ladies that feel they have a gift of being able to commit insignificant infractions, that a guest might not take notice of? Or the guest may have doubts on whether something was taken or they made a mistake.
A slick cleaning lady seeing a raggedy female guest, can easily get a guest to assume that raggedy female was the culprit for something missing. Nobody would suspect the cleaning lady.
The cleaning lady that lied to me about being fired, I dont consider her being trustworthy after doing that. Somebody hired her. Plus she was suspended for taking stuff from someones fridge. I didnt trust her when she started calling me, and asked me to send her 200ksh.
In fact when it comes to efficiency and trustworthiness, many people that are employed, especially folks in uniform, are not automatically efficient or trustworthy because someone hired them. Enough people are only efficient and trustworthy because they know they are under surveillance or supervision.
Or they stand to get cut loose if they fail to meet a standard. People in law enforcement are a prime example. There's a reason why them muggs wear body cams. To protect them, and the people they interact with.
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Church girls and being sneaky go hand and hand,! Sneaky MOs of a lot of chicas in general !
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Ok this went better than I expected. Texted RG to tell her we need to make arrangements so she can come get her stuff. We agreed to 1pm. Not only was the chick on time, but she was supplying me updates on her movements and arrival. Hmm, thats a 1st.
Chick gets here, and I was thinking she would just accept her belongings and take her Bolt back to wherever she was going. Instead she wanted to get out and have a chat.
I invited her to enter the gate, so we could sit down and chat. Chick was completely thrown off by me bringing her stuff down instead of allowing her to come upstairs. The chat consisted of her doing most of the talking. She was very apologetic and acting like she was acknowledging her insecurities and defense mechanisms.
Said she wanted me to give us a chance, and that she would do better. The whole time of the chat, I felt that I was talking to the snake that told the man that he wouldnt bite him if he just came a little closer. Only to get bit anyway. Or Lucy and Charlie Brown. With Lucy telling CB, to come kick the football, she's not going to move it.
Reason why I feel that way, is because it only goes to show she is/was fully aware of how f--ked up she is/was. It would be different if she was clueless and didnt know better. But she definitely knows better.
She asked me at least 3 times for us to go upstairs and not say goodbye like this. I insisted that I didnt want that. That I preferred no company right now. I didnt exactly throw her away.
I just feigned full responsibility by claiming that Im not the man that can meet her needs. Rather than unload on her all the f--ked up things that caused my discontent. We covered everything already, as far as I was concerned.
I left the door open, so that if we do engage, she better not come at me with all of that self centered crap. What really happened for me, is now I can move freely for the rest of my stay. Tuesday I'll let Roxanne come down for 2 days. And that may be the last time I see her.
The last request RG asked, is that I dont bring any of my dates to her restaurant to embarrass her. It's a reasonable request, but it still demonstrates that she is still mainly thinking about herself and how it may make her look or feel. Especially with her co workers. It's not about me being happy taking my date out to where I choose to.
Lastly, she gave me a big candy bar as a parting gift.
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Bonus candy bar most chicas dont give any thing,,, You got that right selfe centered, lot of chicas are like that !
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Bonus candy bar most chicas dont give any thing,,, You got that right selfe centered, lot of chicas are like that !
Yeah the candy bar was a nice touch. But I still see this chick has Succubus tendencies. There is no soul under that fake facade she put up yesterday. I see right through it. She's only acting regretful. She's only thinking about what she just lost. As well as how she has to explain how she lost a living, breathing ATM and psychological sparring partner in less than a week.
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Friday March 22, 2024
Interesting day. One of my buddies finally made it to Nairobi. Lucky for him, I had an extra bedroom. And it was already paid for. We went to the Gikomba Market. Maybe the biggest outdoor shopping market in Kenya. I had a pair of new jeans that I brought with me. They were entirely too long, so I was hoping to find a tailor/seamstress in our travels.
While walking through the Gikomba market I spotted one guy sleeping in a chair. I woke him up because he had a sewing machine right behind him. I showed him my jeans, and asked him how much to cuff em. He looked dead at me and said 500 ksh.
I just walked away shaking my head. But hey, this kind of shit is to be expected. We were bombarded by vendors throughout the whole market. Funny, I expected it to be worst than what we experienced. For most, just being pleasant with them, and saying no thanks over and over was enough to get them to leave us alone.
The only problem, we had to do that for hours as we moved through. Finally, our walk paid off. Stumbled across over a dozen tailors deep within the market. I chose one. Gave the jeans to the lady. A fella connected to her, measured me. And with the measurements he came up with, she made the cuffs.
All she wanted was 100 ksh. I decided to pay her cash. So I gave a 200 ksh, and asked her to give me 50ksh back. This lady appeared so honest. She seemed shocked that I was tipping her 50ksh.
Her price and her speedy service was well worth it. It took about 10 minutes to fix the cuff.
We worked our way out of the thick of the market. Got a Bolt taxi to take us downtown to the CBD ( Central Business District ) area. Man the hustle and bustle there was amazing to witness. It was after 5pm, so just about everyone seemed like they were on a mission trying to get to where they were going.
The visual highlight was looking at so many women walking around with nice round asses. The good thing for me, is that Roxanne has one of those nice round asses. So to a certain extent, after seeing one nice ass, seeing many other nice asses, is no big deal.
Our conversation with our taxi driver along the way to Gikomba Market, was a typical account of how so many women there arent worth dealing with. High expectations of what a man is supposed to bring to the table, but them NOT having much to offer in return. A story I am all too familiar with or expected to hear.
I was glad to get back to my spot. That trip to the market and downtown was tiring.
My buddy was messaging a Tagged chick back and forth today. When we got back, she was trying to see about getting together with him.
When it came to her taking a taxi, this chick texted back that it cost 3200ksh to get to my place. Of course my buddy didnt fall for that. Especially since that was a lie she made up in case he wasnt sure of the cost. He told her he doesnt have that kind of money for a taxi.
I asked him where was she claiming she was coming from? What she said did not match the cost of 3200 ksh to get to my place. Then I told him, even if this chick will come, she will need her ID in order to get past security.
This dumb chick told him, Opps, I have to go back to get my ID. And that he should have told her, that she needed her ID. Thats some dumb shit. Because all of these women know that these places have security. And that she would have to show ID.
Her last message was her claiming she was going to take a Matatu to come see him. Which was more bullshit. Because they never confirmed that she was coming in the 1st place. Nor the time that they were supposed to get together, how much or how long. No video chatting or voice talking transpired between them. Need I say more?
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Gave my day time guards (2) in Kileleshswa a tip. 300ksh each. Thanked them for their service. For me, that will be the only tip I may offer. Ive been a guest in this building since the 26th of February. And will be leaving early April. So what I gave them, will suffice as far as Im concerned.
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Saturday 23rd, 2024
Had breakfast and just chilled most of the day. All of that walking Friday afternoon at Gikomba Market and Downtown CBD, was like 2 days worth of exercise.
Threw out my bait rod, to hit up Nasha. I hadnt talked to her since I let her come over one time ( to my Westlands Airbnb ) back in November. I thought she might provide some familiar but good juice, without me having to go through the preliminaries and interviewing of an online date.
In the back of my mind, I still think that she is going to bring me some form of irritation, as just part of doing business with her. Something I can do without. Last time her angle was to try to get me to give her an extra 5k so she could attend a social event she claimed she wanted to go to. I gave her 5k for spending the night.
I wasnt about to give her another 5k. Nasha is young, between 24 and 26, with one child. Many of these chicks they kinda over estimate a lot of men as being simps, willing to part with money just because these young chicks claim to be in need. It's even more apparent that they think that way when the guy is much older than they are. Like in my case.
Back in April 2023, when I 1st met her outside of Sarit Centre mall, the session was good, and I treated her to a meal at a slightly pricey restaurant. ( more pricey than an average Kenyan would go to ). And from that she started love bombing me in texts, thinking that I was hooked. I guess that belief must of come from her seeing me enjoying her body and seeing my relieved expression after busting a nut. To enough of these women ( throughout my dating and f--king life ) , these are/were their signs of having power and position with men.
What they may not know, is that vulnerable moment of being relieved sexually, for enough of us men, its just a temporary expression of seemingly being weak and simp ready. For enough men they remain weak and simp ready after they have had a taste of some good juice, or just some good ego stroking.
Cant stop a chick for trying, especially if she hasnt properly vetted a man to determine his strengths or weaknesses. Like many women fail to do. Anyway, I hit her up, and was contemplating on having her come over to my Westlands spot. I have about 2 days stay left.
However, my motivation initially was to simply wake up the dead. I didnt know if she was around or would respond, since I did not give her the extra 5k last time, and I didnt try to see her again during the rest of my trip. She was kinda sore about that.
But just like a Dominican chick, they dont always hold grudges or stay mad. You contact them, many will still be open for business and act like nothing ever happened. To an extent, I was just curious to see if the chick would respond. It took a couple of hours, so I had wrote off the idea of my small head possibly reconnecting with her.
Once she responded though, the game was about to resume. Since I wasnt sure of when I wanted to hook up. We just talked about the possibility of her coming over to my Westlands spot later. But I threw in a caveat, as long as me and my buddy was not going out later that night.
Later in the afternoon, I suggested that we get together tomorrow ( Sunday ). To which she replied, Okay. Late Saturday, me and my buddy didnt even go out. And at this late hour, having her come over would have worked out fine. Except for one problem. I wasnt at my Westlands Airbnb, I was at my Kileleshswa Airbnb.
I did not want her to know about this spot yet, until I was done staying in the Westlands. Funny, as I type this, Im almost thinking about extending my stay in the Westlands. That way if I were to go out late in the Westlands area, I could just bring them to that spot.
The question is, is it worth spending another $47 a night? When Ive grown accustomed to staying in Kileleshswa. And I am not even dealing with Restaurant Girl, which is why I got the 2nd spot in the 1st place. Neither one of us has contacted the other. So technically, Im not even using the Westlands spot.
My divorce from her was probably a good move, better than I anticipated. I still have until April 7 of being in Nairobi. There's no telling what the small head might decide. RG is familiar juice. Were already established, so we could get in a session or two. But I dont want to get back into a routine of her expecting to come regularly until I leave.
And more importantly, I am not interested in enriching her with any parting cash, like I would normally do upon my departure. I am only willing to contribute to what I owe from our sessions. I know deep down she is "working on" other cats, and has always been doing her thing.
There were always numerous clues. Plus anyone could just use deductive reasoning, and critical thinking. Why would she not be f--king and getting her needs met, especially from a chick that gets as horny as she does? Who also loves being supplemented financially, and having her belly filled.
She doesnt realize that Im perceptive enough to know that already. I tried to keep things simple and open. With us both having a mature approach to what we were doing.
But she kept insisting that she was looking for a committed relationship, and what I was proposing was not acceptable. LOL. Which I thought was kinda dumb considering I dont live in Nairobi, and she doesnt know much about me. Of course it was all bullshit.
It's important to them of what the guy believes about their feelings towards him. I guess you cant blame these chicks for trying to sucker men into a fallacious LD relationship with them.
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Also last night, a Tinder chick responded to my LIKE. Sent me her number. Right off the bat, her profile does not consist of pictures where one could see her whole body. The one good pic, she looks younger.
You could see her full length front, but cant see much else. Asked the chick to send me a little video. Chick sends me another still full length front photo instead. Also she sent it with the disappearing mode enabled.
Ive got to the point, when chicks have their messages in disappearing mode, I take that as a sign that the chick has shit to hide, and cant be trusted.
So strike one, no full body shots where you can see her entire shape. Strike two, did not send a video when asked. And strike three, Im guessing she will expect me to pay for a taxi to get her to a designated meeting place. And on top of that, usually end up being late. Which is one of the issues I have with most online chicks ( especially young chicks ), that I try to avoid.
So I may abort us meeting up today, and concentrate on Nasha for later. Now with Nasha, knowing to expect the unexpected, I may have to go over some ground rules with her before I allow her to come.
Like us getting the math right. What I intend to give her, and my adjustments if I end up paying for her transpo getting to my spot. Making it clear, not to try to come at me looking to get more than our agreement. Make sure she isnt coming on her period. Talk about what happens if she has an "emergency" and has to leave early. Let her know what happens if she doesnt come on time.
Technically, I dont like having to go through all of that vetting a chick, especially one Ive already been with. But these chicks can come up with all sorts of dumb shit a man may find himself dealing with. It's always something.
Sometimes I think about the hassle or bullshit that I know may manifest itself in some form or another with a chick, and just decide to abort the whole idea of hooking up with any of them. Why cant they just put pussy in vending machines?
Oh I forgot, because were playing Chess, not checkers. This is like a video game. You move, they react. Were supposed to solve the puzzle and enjoy the game/challenge. I admit it, deep down it's fun.
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It's Sunday a little after 10am here in Nairobi.
And the best date right now is Roxanne or even Restaurant Girl, because neither of them are here with me. LOL
I am enjoying the memories of our sessions and their company, without them physically being here with me. I dont mean, jerking off. Just being content, while solo. Can anybody relate to that?
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Sunday afternoon March 24th 2024
I messaged Nasha. We agreed to get together @7pm. I asked, what time are you leaving to come my way. 6:30 she says. I said ok. Then I vetted her.
I asked about her being on her period. Chick took her time answering, but eventually claimed she was not on her period. She questions me on why I asked. I told her, because she already did that before. I didnt even mention the part about her coming over sick, twice.
She's supposed to be at my place by 7pm, but messages me to tell me that she is on her way at 6:40pm. I already know that she is going to be late. But it's no biggie, because I was packing and cleaning up the place before she got there.
I just like getting chicks to confirm when they are supposed to be coming. @6:42 chick messages me back asking, are we going for drinks at the restaurant? I told her No Need, I have wine in the house. Chick went dark. She's a no show.
I usually dont call chicks asking where are they, that seems kinda of simpish doing that. I just start preparing to make adjustments to some potential bullshit. @8:01pm, I shut my phone down. Since she didnt show up, no information or updates from her, I aborted and shut my phone down.
If she had an emergency or major problem keeping her from contacting me, thats fine. We wouldnt be getting together anyway. And I wouldnt be able to do anything about her situation. It's Monday morning, and she is still unaccounted for.
Assuming she is perfectly fine. A few things may have happened. One is, when she asked me were we going for drinks at the restaurant, she may have been looking forward to the drinks, even trying to get a dinner out of the deal. Me telling her I have wine already, may not be what she wanted to hear.
Two, she got a last minute better offer. Or an offer, that she was looking forward to. I could easily be put on pause for another occasion. With her figuring, I can tell this mofo anything. But right now, I need to get this other deal.
And Three. She may have really been on her period. And when I asked her, maybe she didnt want to come "clean", because she knew she was "dirty". So she came up with a quick lie to save face.
Whatever the circumstances. I ended up saving money and not being irritated by her presence.
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Im heading out the door for lunch soon, but this is what became of Nasha.
Nasha sends me a message @11:22am claiming she was robbed of her phone last night. She claims someone snatched it out of her hand, while she was in the taxi coming to my place.
What an amateur. Does she really think someone would believe that happened, last night? Anyway, she wants to come over NOW, so she can get the 6k that I said I was going to give her. She claims she can get credit, if she puts down 5k towards another phone, and agree to pay 4k a month until it's paid off.
According to her, she went this morning to replace her line/sim, and is using somebody else's phone to contact me this morning on Whatsapp.
"Please lets arrange a meet today babe, im just home and bored as a fck. I wish you could confirm to me to come over now"
"my dear im in another state of feeling right now. I wish you could understand this. Ive never failed to come to you and you know that darling. I was glad that I was coming over to see you. but it was in vain."
On a scale of 1 to 10, how would any of you grade her? Did she do a good job being convincing, or did she over exaggerate her dilemma, just a wee bit much?
Even if her story was true, she is going to end up being a bigger liability, than just anyone parting with 6k. Let her ass in the door and see what happens. Once you do that, then you got to listen to her whine about what allegedly happened. She's gonna feel entitled to be treated to food and drink, and who knows what.
She'll want her taxi fares to be paid coming and going. In other words, she is going to milk the hell out of this tale she managed to weave. And of course beg for more money, than sticking to the agreement.
She can also add, that she wont be able to buy food for her and her son, since her phone was stolen. Her list of needs could be endless.
Time to head out the door. I want to try Mama Nilishe Restaurant. Without any dead weight for company. I swear, the more I interact with folks here, the more it's like being in the DR.
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Saturday 23rd, 2024
Had breakfast and just chilled most of the day. All of that walking Friday afternoon at Gikomba Market and Downtown CBD, was like 2 days worth of exercise.
Threw out my bait rod, to hit up Nasha. I hadnt talked to her since I let her come over one time ( to my Westlands Airbnb ) back in November. I thought she might provide some familiar but good juice, without me having to go through the preliminaries and interviewing of an online date.
In the back of my mind, I still think that she is going to bring me some form of irritation, as just part of doing business with her. Something I can do without. Last time her angle was to try to get me to give her an extra 5k so she could attend a social event she claimed she wanted to go to. I gave her 5k for spending the night.
I wasnt about to give her another 5k. Nasha is young, between 24 and 26, with one child. Many of these chicks they kinda over estimate a lot of men as being simps, willing to part with money just because these young chicks claim to be in need. It's even more apparent that they think that way when the guy is much older than they are. Like in my case.
Back in April 2023, when I 1st met her outside of Sarit Centre mall, the session was good, and I treated her to a meal at a slightly pricey restaurant. ( more pricey than an average Kenyan would go to ). And from that she started love bombing me in texts, thinking that I was hooked. I guess that belief must of come from her seeing me enjoying her body and seeing my relieved expression after busting a nut. To enough of these women ( throughout my dating and f--king life ) , these are/were their signs of having power and position with men.
What they may not know, is that vulnerable moment of being relieved sexually, for enough of us men, its just a temporary expression of seemingly being weak and simp ready. For enough men they remain weak and simp ready after they have had a taste of some good juice, or just some good ego stroking.
Cant stop a chick for trying, especially if she hasnt properly vetted a man to determine his strengths or weaknesses. Like many women fail to do. Anyway, I hit her up, and was contemplating on having her come over to my Westlands spot. I have about 2 days stay left.
However, my motivation initially was to simply wake up the dead. I didnt know if she was around or would respond, since I did not give her the extra 5k last time, and I didnt try to see her again during the rest of my trip. She was kinda sore about that.
But just like a Dominican chick, they dont always hold grudges or stay mad. You contact them, many will still be open for business and act like nothing ever happened. To an extent, I was just curious to see if the chick would respond. It took a couple of hours, so I had wrote off the idea of my small head possibility reconnecting with her.
Once she responded though, the game was about to resume. Since I wasnt sure of when I wanted to hook up. We just talked about the possibility of her coming over to my Westlands spot later. But I threw in a caveat, as long as me and my buddy was not going out later that night.
Later in the afternoon, I suggested that we get together tomorrow ( Sunday ). To which she replied, Okay. Late Saturday, me and my buddy didnt even go out. And at this late hour, having her come over would have worked out fine. Except for one problem. I wasnt at my Westlands Airbnb, I was at my Kileleshswa Airbnb.
I did not want her to know about this spot yet, until I was done staying in the Westlands. Funny, as I type this, Im almost thinking about extending my stay in the Westlands. That way if I were to go out late in the Westlands area, I could just bring them to that spot.
The question is, is it worth spending another $47 a night? When Ive grown accustomed to staying in Kileleshswa. And I am not even dealing with Restaurant Girl, which is why I got the 2nd spot in the 1st place. Neither one of us has contacted the other. So technically, Im not even using the Westlands spot.
My divorce from her was probably a good move, better than I anticipated. I still have until April 7 of being in Nairobi. There's no telling what the small head might decide. RG is familiar juice. Were already established, so we could get in a session or two. But I dont want to get back into a routine of her expecting to come regularly until I leave.
And more importantly, I am not interested in enriching her with any parting cash, like I would normally do upon my departure. I am only willing to contribute to what I owe from our sessions. I know deep down she is "working on" other cats, and has always been doing her thing.
There were always numerous clues. Plus anyone could just use deductive reasoning, and critical thinking. Why would she not be f--king and getting her needs met, especially from a chick that gets as horny as she does? Who also loves being supplemented financially, and having her belly filled.
She doesnt realize that Im perceptive enough to know that already. I tried to keep things simple and open. With us both having a mature approach to what we were doing.
But she kept insisting that she was looking for a committed relationship, and what I was proposing was not acceptable. LOL. Which I thought was kinda dumb considering I dont live in Nairobi, and she doesnt know much about me. Of course it was all bullshit.
It's important to them of what the guy believes about their feelings towards him. I guess you cant blame these chicks for trying to sucker men into a fallacious LD relationship with them.
Its like when DR Chicas.when they Complain Quote you dont understand me,,, Real meaning you dont give me enough money,
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Nice Soft Booty on that First Chica !
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I checked out of Westlands Airbnb this morning. I found a coffee mug that Restaurant Girl left there. Decided to message her to ask her if she wanted it. She said she bought it from a store because she thought my place did not have a coffee mug. But it's not hers. Just give it away, she says. Didnt make sense, but I get it.
Boy I must have pissed her off wwhen I stopped bothering with her since our parley. Must be, because she was definitely bothered when I did not answer her "house help" text. So a full week of not bothering with her may have set her over the edge. Or maybe Im wrong, and she's been relieved not having to pretend to be in a relationship anymore.
I failed the flunky test so she's already moved on.
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So whats been going on lately?
Been browsing my Tinder, Badoo and Tagged accounts. Thought browsing Badoo or Tagged might bring different results. Got to be careful on these sites. Never assume you know who you are sending and receiving messages with. Even if you initiate expressing interest first.
Two recent Badoo chicks have both been exchanging messages with me. Each asking when we can meet. Both started sending photos to my WA unsolicited. I asked the last one, lets video chat for a few minutes. No reply or response.
The other one, suggested that we talk. Called her at the designated time. No reply, no response. The one that was more suspect, was the one where the chick went from several texts in a row, to no response when I requested a video chat.
If anyone read my posts from my earlier trips to Africa, I vetted a few online chicks to come to the conclusion that these sites here are infested with scammers, and hustlers. I caution any guy coming to Kenya, to use common sense on these dating sites.
Always try to get to know who you are communicating with. Dont assume who you are talking to based on profile pics alone, and whatever pics or videos they send you. That stuff could be just bait to get you to commit. Some cats actually agree to a meet and send money for transpo and havent even seen or talked to the person. The whole interaction was through text.
Got a text from Restaurant Girl wishing me a Happy Easter Holiday week. I guess that was a baited message to get me to react. Or it could have been a group message, and she just happened to include me in that group. I replied to it, wishing the same. No reply, no response. Best I not restart anything. She would need to put up a lot more effort, in order for me to be Charlie Browned by her.
Roxanne is doing her usual. Staying in touch daily, waiting for me to advise her to come down for a visit.
Nasha sent me a message telling me never to contact her ever again. I never bothered to respond to it. She probably was bothered that I didnt respond to her last messages. I kinda set her straight the day after she claimed she was robbed of her phone. Said some things she didnt want to hear, and may have caught her off guard. Calling her out like that, I knew that would be the end. Being exposed by someone you thought was under pussy hypnosis, can hurt.
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So whats been going on lately?
Been browsing my Tinder, Badoo and Tagged accounts. Thought browsing Badoo or Tagged might bring different results. Got to be careful on these sites. Never assume you know who you are sending and receiving messages with. Even if you initiate expressing interest first.
Two recent Badoo chicks have both been exchanging messages with me. Each asking when we can meet. Both started sending photos to my WA unsolicited. I asked the last one, lets video chat for a few minutes. No reply or response.
The other one, suggested that we talk. Called her at the designated time. No reply, no response. The one that was more suspect, was the one where the chick went from several texts in a row, to no response when I requested a video chat.
If anyone read my posts from my earlier trips to Africa, I vetted a few online chicks to come to the conclusion that these sites here are infested with scammers, and hustlers. I caution any guy coming to Kenya, to use common sense on these dating sites.
Always try to get to know who you are communicating with. Dont assume who you are talking to based on profile pics alone, and whatever pics or videos they send you. That stuff could be just bait to get you to commit. Some cats actually agree to a meet and send money for transpo and havent even seen or talked to the person. The whole interaction was through text.
Got a text from Restaurant Girl wishing me a Happy Easter Holiday week. I guess that was a baited message to get me to react. Or it could have been a group message, and she just happened to include me in that group. I replied to it, wishing the same. No reply, no response. Best I not restart anything. She would need to put up a lot more effort, in order for me to be Charlie Browned by her.
Roxanne is doing her usual. Staying in touch daily, waiting for me to advise her to come down for a visit.
Nasha sent me a message telling me never to contact her ever again. I never bothered to respond to it. She probably was bothered that I didnt respond to her last messages. I kinda set her straight the day after she claimed she was robbed of her phone. Said some things she didnt want to hear, and may have caught her off guard. Calling her out like that, I knew that would be the end. Being exposed by someone you thought was under pussy hypnosis, can hurt.
Great information. Basically, stay away from the internet and meet women "in the flesh."
Keep giving us tips. A few questions.
1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?
2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.
3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.
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Great information. Basically, stay away from the internet and meet women "in the flesh."
Keep giving us tips. A few questions.
1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?
2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.
3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.
Im going to answer the best I can. I would not say stay away from the internet, especially to guys that are able and willing to practice safe hunting. IMO, dealing with chicks face to face can be just as risky as finding them on the internet. Besides, it's hard to determine which chicks are not on the internet. A face to face meet might be with a chick who still has a profile on several dating sites.
Any scamming and/or opportunism can manifest itself, in either category. It doesnt matter, women are women. I have two recent live examples. Plus Ive made numerous observations since Ive been coming here. Restaurant Girl, I met face to face in Nairobi at her restaurant, and Roxanne I met on Tinder and she lives 3 hrs away from where I am in Nairobi.
Between the two, RG I see as being more devious, and opportunistic than Roxanne. My 1st visit to Kenya in 2022, I posted how I met my 1st Tinder hookup. We did not do video chat, only voice messaging. Then we met at Java House in the mall. A typical place for internet meets. Ive seen a ton of internet meets. The only one paying is the guys. SMH. Chick was attractive. But she was boring as hell. No conversational skills at all. No real job.
According to her , she had an online business selling shoes. In other words, no steady reliable income from doing that. Claimed to live with family. Not much into watching TV, doesnt drink, so I couldnt loosen her up with some spirits. Doesnt talk much, so it was hard to entertain her at my Airbnb.
So the 1st time she came to my Airbnb, the communication wasnt working, I just guided her to the bedroom and we f--ked like rabbits. Chick was passionate in the bedroom, but a dead fish otherwise. I deduced from my experience with her, that hundreds and thousands of women here are on the internet mostly to hustle.
I gave her 4000 ksh, the next morning. Receiving compensation for her time, getting some foreigner dick, and getting some female validation is what she came for. Enough women here can do that every day 24/7. Like it's a routine or a religion.
Earn cash, get free meals, entertainment and validation. It could be their main source of income, or a supplement even for chicks with jobs. With that being said, none of these chicks can be trusted or taken seriously. For them to be other than they represent, would take months and years of being a different type of woman to a man.
Which most men will never get to experience. Its usually, one way. What the man can/will do for a woman. Not the other way around. The minute they see you, your status to them is about what you bring to their table. Especially in contrast to their own men.
There is no shortage of Kenyan or other African men to date or mate these women. The problem for these women, the average African man already knows most of the women are f--ked up in their minds. Imma take a slight detour into why I think thats so. What Im about to say was also shared by one of my recent taxi drivers here.
Anytime a society empowers women, sometimes over men, doing that can cause chaos within the community and family structure. Additionally, when ever women are allowed to act irresponsibly with their sexuality, the whole society pays the price. It makes the society look like one big fat pay 4 play arena.
Women have got it in their heads, that they are the prize. And men here act like it. Many dont have much leverage in the dating mating game. Foreigners tend to have more leverage. But many foreigners dont know how to master their leverage. Enough foreigners are still acting like the women they seek here, are the main prize.
So we have some severely inflated egos of women running amuck here. To some extent some are humbled, because they do realize they still want to be cared for, and many dont want the responsibility of taking care of themselves 100%. A lot of women cant survive without mens input. A lot of women just dont know shit about a lot of things. Foreigner men, with a head on their shoulders would run circles around enough of these women here when it comes to knowledge, wisdom, troubleshooting skills and life experience.
But if were transient, we can only provide what they need in the moment, some quick cash. Or if a guy desires to put himself in that position, a LD provider.
The common denominator here? For me, I look at all women here as being f--ked up in one form or another, until proven otherwise. Take Roxanne. Roxanne is turning 40. Has 3 kids. A 16yr old boy in boarding school, a 13yr old girl and a younger daughter at home.
When she leaves home to travel 3hrs to come to see me for 2 days, she is leaving her girls with a so called babysitter or house help. I get to have some good juice and company. Technically, for a Kenyan man looking for a good woman, what does she bring to his table?
It's not enough that she is cooperative in the bedroom. But what kind of mindset does she have to go visit some dude for 2 days and leave her kids? A lot of women are doing this. Maybe they feel they need to, in order to survive. Whether you meet them in person or online.
Even if no kids are involved, there is always something about enough of these women, that a man knows is just not right with them. So it's always wise to proceed with caution when dealing with these women. Once a man expresses liking a woman, the cat and mouse game begins. "Oh, you like me huh? Well okay, thats gonna cost ya" Just watch how it plays out.
It's not my concern to solve anything here. Im just here for the juice. It's what mongers do. Take advantage of a market which that destination provides. We dont make the conditions or the circumstances. But we do indirectly help economies. I will address the questions you asked next.
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1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?
This is my educated guess from life experience and my perspective from being here, along with what my recent Bolt Taxi driver told us the other day when we went to the Gikomba Market.
Many of these women have multiple men on retainer. According to the driver, enough of these women will have a roster of men that they use for specific functions. Some men may perform several desirable functions for these women, at the same time.
I dont even need to list them. Im sure any man can figure that out. So for Kenyan men, that is what they have to deal with. So even if a man is able to get his needs met, there is no long term value with any of these women. Because one man may not be relied upon to satisfy all of their indulgences. What I dont know, is if local Kenyan men in ABUNDANCE lay in the cut while their women are out there hustling and/or scheming.
So far, I get the impression that most women if they are hustling they are doing it behind their mens backs, rather than men hiding out until some foreigner leaves. And that most local men do not want to share their women like that. Thing is, I really dont know. I need to seek feedback from local men that know. I never thought to dig further. But it did register, that many women here do take advantage of having several men interested in them doing their bidding. BTW, there is one default perspective I have, when it comes to women. Women with children, is not an attractive arrangement for enough local men.
In other words, almost everywhere you go, local men avoid taking on the responsibility of helping women raise another mans kids. Enough local men only want to be that womans stud. Not much more. There are exceptions of course. In the US, men tend to walk smack dead into ready made families, hoping that will lead to some good steady juice. It usually back fires. A typical man in the states will find himself taking on more responsibility for a womans kids, than they anticipated.
Other men in foreign countries tend to avoid women with children altogether. Except if some easy juice is available.
2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.
Because I feel enough women may have been abandoned by their men, except for when those men come around to score some juice, enough women will make themselves available to a foreigner that approaches them. Any local man they have they may put him on pause, and give him the usual excuses of why she is unavailable. Like she's going out with her gf's. Going to be gone a few days to see family or she's sick, or she's on her period. etc. Whatever lie it takes, they want him to believe.
IMO the more attractive they are, the more in demand and the more offers they are probably getting publicly, and while online. What I mean is, even if you meet women while they are working a job, those same women probably still have an online profile on several dating sites too. They are getting action and offers from many angles.
Life can be a full time job of potential offers coming their way, of men offering dick. Them making themselves available, and being easy to exchange numbers with, is nothing for any of us to be impressed by. It's just a part of doing business. "Oh, you like me huh?" Well, thats gonna cost ya, here take my number". "Oh so you are here on holiday?" "No problem, I got time for you, here take my number." She can squeeze any man into her schedule when possible, without any local BF or hungry suitor in the wings suspecting anything.
What they dont know cant hurt her.
3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.
I believe it is an issue, but I havent put much thought into it, in regards to how I might be affected by it. There are so many women here, that as long as a guy can get his needs met, it may not be anything that he'll be affected by. BTW the colorism issue I think manifests itself in a couple of ways.
One is enough women here have issues with their own skin color. So enough here are into lightening themselves. Others when it comes to putting themselves on display, use filters to make themselves look lighter than they are in person.
The other situation is when the women only want to date men that are white or extremely light. I found out in conversation, that RG dated a white guy before. I suspect that she has colorism issues herself. The 1st set of pics she sent me, she had one pic making her look like she got hit with a sack of flour.
She is an example of what I meant, by enough of these women has something f--ked up about them. You just need to be perceptive enough as a man to find out what those things are. Many times us men take those things into consideration, but dont really pay it much mind unless it affects us directly.
Usually we are getting something out of it, what we came for. Which is getting some good juice. The women being f--ked up is no reflection on us. It's not like we made them who they are. It's not like were trying to wife them up, and start a family or to join a ready made family.
The women put out a product, they want compensation for. Like making homemade biscuits in their kitchens, packaging it, and then going out to sell to the public. Hope I answered the questions. There is a lot I still dont know about this environment, the customs, it's women and the people here. Im still in training, and observation mode.
A lot of my opinions come from using my experience and making educated guesses. And a little I get from local men. I even take what they tell me, with caution. Their motivation may be to tell me or any foreigner what they think they want to hear.
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Another thing comes to mind that should be considered.
Im an older cat. Some women here may still find me attractive. But my experiences and observations with women here, may be distinctly different than what a younger cat in his prime may experience.
The other thing to note, is that I havent interacted with many women here who are educated and/or very well off financially. If I had, my experiences and observations might be distinctly different.
I do feel this, a lot of the women that I dont find very attractive, or down right undesirable to me, might treat me a lot different than the barracuda type behavior I tend to see from attractive women, worldwide. But I just cant be with a chick I am not attracted to.
The women who are the cream of the crop here ( in terms of looks, finances and education ) are probably looking for men who are above what I have or provide more than Im willing to offer. Or who are easier to manipulate or easier to get them to do their bidding. Which is fine for me. I like average, cooperative, team player type women that I also find attractive.
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It's a little after six in the morning here. It's pitch black out, and I hear an argument going on outside with a couple. It's definitely an African woman. I cant tell if the man is a foreigner or a Kenyan.
Update. It wasnt what I thought. The commotion was coming from the bungalow buildings next door. One of the male security guards was talking to one of the female cleaning staff members. They were talking louder than they should. Maybe they had some form of dispute, but it wasnt a big issue. I just didnt expect to hear that so early in the morning.
BTW, my buddy/wingman had his 2nd Tagged chick over last night.
I got a chance to hear some quality banging coming from his room. Meanwhile, I havent had any guests over since Roxanne left a week ago.
I checked my phone. The Badoo chick I wanted to video chat with did respond, but not fast enough. She's still asking in text, when can we meet? I would have told her when, if I got a chance to see her on video. The only problem I have, I am not interested in meeting any chicks at dining venues. Or paying for taxis for them to get there. This Badoo chick said in her profile, No House Dates. LOL.
But unless I know for sure, most of these women think the default setting for a meet, is the guy inviting the chick somewhere for him to spend money. Then if things dont work out, he gets the bill, while the chick gets fed. These chicks have the same mindset as other women.
That if a man doesnt want to invest first in the woman online, then he isnt worth her time. Very hard to find a genuine woman actually interested in the guys they meet online. The one thing I cant ignore, and neither should other men, is what exactly does the woman want from a guy she knows does not live in her country?
No matter what it is, Im sure it doesnt serve the mans best interest. And most men dont bother to pursue an answer, because were just hoping the juice will just fall into our laps. But really. Maybe dudes should put these chicks on the spot. Make them show their hand. I see in a lot of female profiles, telling guys , dont ask me why I am on this site. They dont want guys to ask, because the answer will probably reveal a lot more of their unsavory intentions that they dont want a man to know.
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This is awesome information. I always love reading your reports, and although I was initially excited about Kenya, I feel it can wait a bit until I conquer territory closer to home (DR, Colombia, Mexico, Costa Rica Panama).
The reason I asked is that in the "training wheel" P4P environments of Sosua and Pattaya the changes of a jealous husband coming into your room with a machete are slim (high for Colombia but that's another conversation). Any women that have a man can be had for a price of course, but I always want to be a bit careful in that regard. In some countries there is a stigma or "foreigners dogging our women" which results in jealousy of the local men. Many Ukrainian men for example hate that Black men date their women.
Women with kids is always an easy target no matter where you go, so it figures they are going to be money-hungry because their bills are obviously higher. Frankly, I don't try to get too close to ANY women anymore no matter what part of the world they are from and always keep an arms distance and my heart guarded. She's not yours; it's just your turn.
The skin question was purely out of curiosity. You see it in Asian, and African societies so I figured it resonated in Kenya too.
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Even if I score some different juice here before I leave here. Im done here for the time being. There is nothing or nobody here in Nairobi to hold my interest to stay longer. It may be 3 to 4 months, or more before I decide to come back.
And most likely, I would only want to come back if one of my wingmen also joined me. Especially the guys I talked to that have never been here before. Who were hoping I would be here for them.
Im so looking forward to my return home, to Sosua.
It's too cold here in Nairobi. Their rainy season is about to begin in a few days. I got a sample of whats to come yesterday evening. In Sosua it's warm, it's sunny. I can get back into my routine. I have friends and acquaintances. The social aspect is much better for me in Sosua than here in Nairobi.
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Even if I score some different juice here before I leave here. Im done here for the time being. There is nothing or nobody here in Nairobi to hold my interest to stay longer. It may be 3 to 4 months, or more before I decide to come back.
And most likely, I would only want to come back if one of my wingmen also joined me. Especially the guys I talked to that have never been here before. Who were hoping I would be here for them.
Im so looking forward to my return home, to Sosua.
It's too cold here in Nairobi. Their rainy season is about to begin in a few days. I got a sample of whats to come yesterday evening. In Sosua it's warm, it's sunny. I can get back into my routine. I have friends and acquaintances. The social aspect is much better for me in Sosua than here in Nairobi.
For people who are social, Sosua's brotherhood is unlike anywhere in the world. There are many friends I have made to this day I still keep contact with, and one I travel with regularly. Yes, there are freaks and weirdos like everywhere but the vast majority of brothers, especially old cats, are cool as hell. You'll always run into friendly people, and I always say for a first timer traveling solo, Sosua is amazing. Great memories and really reminds me of my younger college days. The best things is that new guys fly in all the time and spice things up if you're not clicking with certain people. I always try to pass my knowledge to young(er) cats too who are learning the ropes.
I also understand the flip side of people wanting to spend time with their crew or go at things solo. You can do that too if you wish...But I always find it more fun to go with one or two cool cats.
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I have to say, my buddy/wingman has done well with his Tagged contacts. Why so? In both cases, the purpose of the arrangement was discussed upfront. Meaning, both chicks expressed interest in being compensated if they came to visit him. No meeting places. Just come over and put in the work. Both chicks spent the night.
The 1st Badoo chick that I called last night, messaged me on Whatsapp this morning. Supposedly from work. She apologized for the missed call. She claims, she did not have an active phone bundle at the time. Their phone bundles comes with free Whatsapp.
But the chick never told me she wouldnt be able to receive a Whatsapp call from me, when she was home. She figured I'd have calling minutes to use to make a regular call. Once again, a chick seeing some man as a walking bank or ATM machine.
Im considered rich, shes considered entitled, and Im a man. So the onus is all on a man to make the effort, and burn up his minutes in his bundle just to contact her. In the DR, what do enough women do? Call a dude and then hang up. Expecting the guy to call them back.
The intelligent thing to do, was for her to let me know the best way to contact her, and for me not to use Whatsapp because she did not have internet at home. The reason why that was important for me to know, is because Whatsapp was the only form of communication that we had established after moving from Badoo. So of course, I would call her using Whatsapp.
After her explanation, do you think she decided to call me, or arrange to call me, now that she was at work? No, she didnt. Do you think she decided to inform me that she would get a bundle today, so that we could talk later? No she didnt. She left me no choice but to deduce, that she was hoping that I would offer to buy her a phone bundle.
If this was me or another dude, a man would have said something. "Hey man, I will call you now." Or "Im busy now" or "I cant make calls here, I will call you later." "I'll get me a bundle, and reach out to you later." Thats what I would expect to hear from another man.
But this shit here, this a practice I am all too familiar with, and I believe a lot of women do that here. "You like me huh?" "Well why dont you buy me a bundle handsome, then we can stay in touch?" ( she didnt actually say that, thats what I believe her and other women hope would happen, when they tell a guy that they lack something ).
This is the non verbal communication that I often refer to when Im talking about men being very perceptive and intuitive in how enough women communicate things they want or expect from men without being direct and upfront about it. Men need not fall into these frivolous traps, once they recognize what's really going on. DONT SIMP or STOP SIMPING GUYS.
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For people who are social, Sosua's brotherhood is unlike anywhere in the world. There are many friends I have made to this day I still keep contact with, and one I travel with regularly. Yes, there are freaks and weirdos like everywhere but the vast majority of brothers, especially old cats, are cool as hell. You'll always run into friendly people, and I always say for a first timer traveling solo, Sosua is amazing. Great memories and really reminds me of my younger college days. The best things is that new guys fly in all the time and spice things up if you're not clicking with certain people. I always try to pass my knowledge to young(er) cats too who are learning the ropes.
I also understand the flip side of people wanting to spend time with their crew or go at things solo. You can do that too if you wish...But I always find it more fun to go with one or two cool cats.
A f--kin Men, and Hallelujah, my brother.
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Early this morning, the 2nd Badoo girl started off with sending me a "Good morning". Then, "How are you?" I told her, "Im doing fine so far. How are you doing?" Then I sent her this message.
You mentioned us possibly meeting? What kind of meetings work for you? I see you indicated in your profile that you don't do house dates. I can understand that. I learned that lunch, dinner or drink meetings are not the best way to set up a meet. Unless each person agrees to take care of their own expenses for that first meet. What say you? I was laughing my ass off when I sent that message.
That was about 12:30pm, and it's after 8pm now. For some reason, I never got a response? I wonder why? Could it be that her data bundle which includes WhatsApp expired like the other girl?
From 2 PM until 5:30 PM my buddy and I ended up downtown again ( in the Central Business District ). So many people were walking around. This is supposed to be Easter holiday weekend here. So that might have something to do with the volume of people we saw walking around.
We were constantly singled out by beggars and panhandlers, I suppose because we were foreigners. We watched them bypass every Kenyan around us, focusing their attention only on us.
One girl stood in front of my buddy with what she had in her hand to sell. My buddy told her about a dozen times, No thank you. She just kept on trying. She wouldnt budge. After a few minutes, I remembered what we always told Dominican women in order to get them to leave us alone, or to get rid of them.
Just tell them, that you dont have any money. So I told the girl, my friend doesnt have any money. Apparently those were the universal magic words to get her to leave. And me telling the Badoo chick that I think lunch, dinner or drink meets arent a good idea, unless each party pays their own expenses......those were my magic words.
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So whats been going on lately?
Been browsing my Tinder, Badoo and Tagged accounts. Thought browsing Badoo or Tagged might bring different results. Got to be careful on these sites. Never assume you know who you are sending and receiving messages with. Even if you initiate expressing interest first.
Two recent Badoo chicks have both been exchanging messages with me. Each asking when we can meet. Both started sending photos to my WA unsolicited. I asked the last one, lets video chat for a few minutes. No reply or response.
The other one, suggested that we talk. Called her at the designated time. No reply, no response. The one that was more suspect, was the one where the chick went from several texts in a row, to no response when I requested a video chat.
If anyone read my posts from my earlier trips to Africa, I vetted a few online chicks to come to the conclusion that these sites here are infested with scammers, and hustlers. I caution any guy coming to Kenya, to use common sense on these dating sites.
Always try to get to know who you are communicating with. Dont assume who you are talking to based on profile pics alone, and whatever pics or videos they send you. That stuff could be just bait to get you to commit. Some cats actually agree to a meet and send money for transpo and havent even seen or talked to the person. The whole interaction was through text.
Got a text from Restaurant Girl wishing me a Happy Easter Holiday week. I guess that was a baited message to get me to react. Or it could have been a group message, and she just happened to include me in that group. I replied to it, wishing the same. No reply, no response. Best I not restart anything. She would need to put up a lot more effort, in order for me to be Charlie Browned by her.
Roxanne is doing her usual. Staying in touch daily, waiting for me to advise her to come down for a visit.
Nasha sent me a message telling me never to contact her ever again. I never bothered to respond to it. She probably was bothered that I didnt respond to her last messages. I kinda set her straight the day after she claimed she was robbed of her phone. Said some things she didnt want to hear, and may have caught her off guard. Calling her out like that, I knew that would be the end. Being exposed by someone you thought was under pussy hypnosis, can hurt.
Great information. Basically, stay away from the internet and meet women "in the flesh."
Keep giving us tips. A few questions.
1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?
2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.
3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.
The dynamics are similar all over the world theres a lot of single mothers with no Man looking for one.
It depends the chicks who hang out at the mall are there because of you. Kenya does a even better job than the DR and Colombia as a whole of kicking out beggars and people unlikely to be able to buy anything there, The vast Majority of Kenyans rich or poor would shop in CBD or Gikomba market or the markets in Eastleigh shit is way cheaper there and much closer to where they live.
Again it's not like the artificial evironment of Sosua again if a Kenyan woman is at an upscale Mall there's a reason so it's highly unlikely she'll drop everything to go on a date with you right then and there but she will take your number unless she works at the mall in which case it's far less likely or she'll call you waaaaaay after the fact.
The colorism situation is the same in the states no matter how dark you are you're seen as white in Africa. They really like and admire African Americans generally speaking.
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Tuesday April 2, 2024
Roxanne shows up around 5pm. We sat around and watched a movie, and ordered food for delivery. After that movie it was straight to bed. It pays not to be f--king too much. Cause I was ready for her. No enhancements, and no wine. The times she arrived early morning, we usually would go straight to bed, and put in some work.
One thing I can say about Roxanne, that lady always dresses nice/sexy. Shes never wore pants or shorts with me. Always wears dresses, and heeled shoes. Always sporting a nice braided hair style. And the nice knockoff accessories to go along with it.
If she was a Haitian in Sosua, or a regular at BlackBeards, she would be a star attraction, just on appearance alone.
I never thought about that until now. Put a chick in a different environment, and their value could easily increase 2 or 3 fold.
Roxanne, on a scale of 1-10 in the face is about a 5 or 6, but her body is a decent 7/8, considering how many chicks have significant flaws they are hiding underneath their clothes. Stretch marks, hideous tats or surgeries. The fake eyelashes.
At least I can say, when the clothes come off with Roxanne, she is still appealing and desirable. Thats more than I can say for some of the chicks I see with a series of props to get men's attention.
For the most part she has been medium to low maintenance. Partly because, she is discreet in how she operates. Meaning, I suspect that since I met her on Tinder, she has contacts, she visits from time to time, or maybe a maintainer somewhere. She does own her clothing store business up there where she lives. What she sells is very valuable to her clients, because they dont have to travel to downtown Nairobi to get the quality looking stuff that she sells.
Whatever the case, it works for me. She paid for her 3 hr bus ride, and her taxi ride to my place. Nothing to be too impressed by, because she knows she will be reimbursed when it's time to leave. Last time I gave her 10k ksh to her M-Pesa when she left. I may do a little more, like 12 -15k ksh 15k is about $114 USD.
Her being born, raised and living in the county/country all of her life, 10k, 12k or 15k shilling is considered a lot of money to be gifted. In the heart of Nairobi, a hardcore working girl, might not be that impressed by 10 to 15k ksh for 48hrs of being with a client. Even if the guy provided meals, her transpo and her entertainment.
I recall the one Brew Bistro chick I encountered that wanted $100 USD to spend an overnight. And it was already after 1am when we were at the club. She dressed the part as if she was worth $100. Wouldnt budge from $100. There were dozens of other chicks there that may have accepted 7k and up for an overnight.
Roxanne will be here for 24 to 36hrs, no more than 48hrs. If I gave her 12k ksh, that will pay for her R/T transpo. It could pay her shop rent or her house rent. Their house rent is dirt cheap in the county. Something like 6000ksh. So a guy paying the cost of a chicks rent to them, is a good deal. Especially if the rent was already paid by other men shes seeing. :)
With Restaurant Girl, I stuck to my guns. I left her alone. I reinforced that by adding up and recalling the detriments I determined she brought to the table. From that, realized that I had done the right thing for myself. I aint gonna lie though, her not contacting me either, helped a lot too. LOL.
However, if I would have got involved, my participation with her would have been more superficial. And less of me giving a f--k about her and her welfare. When I come back to Nairobi, and stop by her restaurant. We'll see what kind of vibe she has towards me. A f--k you vibe, or Im glad to see you vibe.
I dont think she will bother to contact me when Im gone. I actually think she is doing ok with the men she's seeing now. But Im sure she will keep in the back of her mind, about that one tasty fish that rejected her, and got away.
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This Nairobi trip is done. Been here 42 days. Had 2 great affordable Airbnb's. One in Westlands I kept for 2 weeks the other in Kileleshwa which I kept for the full 42 days. My Kileleshwa spot was the bomb. Spacious, 2BR 2 1/2 bath, big balcony with view, fridge bigger than me, 65 inch TV, all cooking utensils and appliances, washer/dryer combo.
6 security guards on site, 3 per 12hr shift. I only saw 4 that I tipped, a one time gift of 300ksh each. In Westland, no cash tip or food to any of the guards, except one. I gave the female guard the candy bar that RG gave me when we divorced. And that was because the guard let my wing man come upstairs even though he did not have his ID on him.
There was something about me that changed, since my last visit. It started while I was still in the Philippines. Preparing for this 4th Nairobi trip, I felt the need to change how I would operate while in Nairobi. The fact that I was going to be alone, with no buddies or wingman to connect with daily, may have contributed to a different attitude or mindset.
Additionally, these women here in Africa, reminded me of dealing with American women with a f--ked up Dominican chica mentality. I basically planned not to allow the women or the locals to have anything more from me than what I felt they earned.
So whenever it came to taxis pulling their expected shenanigans, I was prepared for it. When it came to the chicks, I was more disciplined and more focused on looking out for my own interests. It's not like I didnt know how to do that already. Especially after years of living abroad, and dealing with DR chicks on their own turf.
But being and feeling so far away from home, on a different continent, I looked at being in Nairobi and dealing with the people here, as a personal challenge. I personally appreciated how I just did what I needed to do with the chicks and people I interacted with.
The 1st or 2nd sign of any bullshit, I dealt with it. Ignoring those weak urges, that want to keep a guy thinking he's doing something wrong or missing out, even if standing up for oneself is exactly whats needed.
Roxanne turned out to be a decent chick to kick it with. Consistently affectionate, just a cool all around woman. Low maintenance this whole trip. Gave her 10k ksh when she left the other morning. God bless her if my money mixed together with her other male companions made her trip home much better. :)
Turned on my chica DR phone. Communicated with my ex Haitian regular. We mutually dropped off from each other from all of my traveling. We can reconnect when I get back. Thats some juice, Ive always enjoyed. I watched an old sex video of us when I 1st met her back in Sept 2015.
Young, goofy, sexy and an easy going personality. She was happy I hired her that night. She had a mentor that was cramping her style. She ditched her, and was rewarded.
Not hardcore after all of these years, but certainly was trying to ask for more than I was giving her. I gave her raises over the years without her asking. I insisted not knowing what she needed money for. If she needed more money, I encouraged her to put in more work for me. Clean my house, give me a pedicure, wash my car or pasola. I like ya, but you got to earn your keep. She did not take me up on those offers, so we kept it simple. Spend the night, and get paid in the morning.
Our last arrangement was 4300 for overnight. And in the last 4yrs, I wasnt even interested in hitting it in the morning. I enjoyed our one session, and watching movies. Never even had to feed her. I needed to save some leche for the other regulars trying to earn some cash. Regulars I eventually phased out.
It's almost 11pm and soon I'll be outta here to catch a 4am flight, back to the states...hang out for a few days.....FINAL DESTINATION? Sosua, Dominican Republic.
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It's 2:20 am. While checking in at the ticket counter, ran into a major baggage issue. I got caught with 2 overweight carryon bags. One a roller, and the other a backpack. Were talking about 12kg, and 9kgs respectively. The ticket agent said I needed to check in one of my bags and move some items. Then pay $225 USD.
That blew me away. I asked to see the fee chart. Dude acted like, it was strange asking to see the bag fee chart. Then I asked to see a superviser. Turned out to be a lady boss a few feet away. She went to the fee chart, and showed it to me. Sho nuff, there was a charge of $225 to add a bag of 23kg.
But above that category, I saw a charge of $100 USD for an overweight bag. Well, one of my 2 checkin bags was still on the belt. I asked why cant I just add to that bag,. Then I said to him, you arent trying to help me at all. Plus, I appealed to the fact that I was a frequent flyer with their airline. Im not that over weight, cant you make an exception?
Dudes attitude was, why are you complaining? Even though I know he wouldnt have a problem using his discretion in who he would give a pass to. I guess persistance paid off. Eventually, the dude handed me my boarding passes, and told me to GO. No problem. I took my shit and booked. Hit up immigration and went through security again. Sitting at the gate now, $100 to $225 richer. Now hoping my 2nd check in bag that was sitting on the belt, makes it to its final destination without any hiccups.
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Thats a good lesson on sticking up for yourself, kudos of saving on the baggage fees,,Sirs this is where yah got to put chicas in there place let them stay in there lane,,,,they get rewarded when and only when services are provided with out an BS,,,,Too many newbies are letting chicas walk all over them will a local donimican guy or haitain guy let a chica walk all over them? f--k no there put in there place carry on sirs be safe !
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Thats a good lesson on sticking up for yourself, kudos of saving on the baggage fees,,Sirs this is where yah got to put chicas in there place let them stay in there lane,,,,they get rewarded when and only when services are provided with out an BS,,,,Too many newbies are letting chicas walk all over them will a local donimican guy or haitain guy let a chica walk all over them? f--k no there put in there place carry on sirs be safe !
TBH, when the ticket agent, gave me my tickets told me to GO ( his attitude said hit the f--king road ), I was surprised. I expected the situation to continue. The least I was going to do is, take my check in bag off the belt. Fill it until it weighed 32kg and pay the $100usd. Then put my back pack inside my carryon roller.
By the time I got to the gate, I saw several people with bags that could easily weigh as much as mine. And I'll bet every one of them did not have to weigh their carryons. They just let them through. And yes, I do feel I was targeted because I was a foreigner. At the gate, nobody was asked to check a bag claiming there was limited overhead space.
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Wednesday April 24, 2024
I turned my Nairobi phone on to communicate with Roxanne. I do that from time to time, just to keep in touch. Poor girl has no communication or conversation skills. She just likes staying in touch. I accommodate, but I keep it short and sweet.
Was surprised to see missed calls and texts from Restaurant Girl. Im reasonably certain that her reaching out to me was just bait. Like a vampire, her just wanting to taste some simp blood. What did she want? She supposedly wanted my opinion. "For a person in the hospitality industry, is it better to find work in the US or the UK?"
She also asked was I in the DR. Said she hopes I am well. I gave her my opinion on what she asked. And that is as far as it went. She replied. "Noted, thanks." She's not going to initiate being personable. As an ego driven woman, she is supposed to be chased. And the man is supposed to act like Charlie Brown.
This is one of the things that I dont like about this chick. And it kinda reminds me of how it is dating/mating some women in the states. Chicks like this, have major ego issues when it comes to dealing with men. Women like this are so afraid of a man to seeing them in a submissive or vulnerable position. They always have to do things in a sneaky fashion.
One common habit are women who use mirrors, glass, and give men the "squirrel eye" look, because they want to see if men are checking them out. "Squirrel Eye" is a term I give to chicks who avoid making eye contact. But they are damn near looking at you like the way a squirrel would look at something. Eyes on the side of their head. But acting like they are looking forward.
Me taking the bait, could result in her hoping to reattach me to her emotionally, and ultimately, financially. No simping going on here. She's too far away, and cant do a damn thing for me in exchange for anything. Tangible. Knowing her, her not getting much attention or input out of me, is making her horny as hell. Ive seen it with my own eyes.
She gets off on how some men carry themselves when dealing with her.
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My hunch about Restaurant Girl was correct. Her initial text was just bait. She texted me this last night.
"Hello Carino. You are important to me, you are an amazing man. Now more than ever I know what I want. I want to nurture what we had and I've learned my lesson. I'm sorry if I failed you. I'm not asking for more, just want us to take things slowly and be positive that it will work. My feelings for you are still there."
"Do you feel the same? Or am I asking for something thats impossible. Please be open."
Translation for me? Her nympho juice may still be available when I return to Nairobi. I dont know what the f--k taking it slow means? I still dont live in Africa. I just have to manage the cost and consequences, if I do get reacquainted. Especially before I even get there. Im not entertaining any requests for financial assistance, nor do I care to listen to hear her whine about any personal or financial problems, if she ever goes there.
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I had told Restaurant Girl that she needs to call and we talk about her concerns, not through texting. She agreed, and called yesterday. 7am my time, 2pm her time, her day off.
At 1st the conversation was very generic. We didnt get into the meat and potatoes for over 15 minutes. At 1st I thought she wasnt going to get to the point of the call. Finally , she got to the point.
Basically, she was in shock that I had kicked her to the curb so easily. Me asking her to come get her stuff, but more shocking to her was me bringing her bag of stuff downstairs, and not really trying to let her visit so we can talk.
She tried to make that an issue, so I had to stop her at some point and breakdown what the real issues are/were. Everything was all good, as long as she was benefitting. She kinda understood that I did not like her sending me a text asking me to pay for house help when I was in Nairobi. But she still defended it, by saying she was just communicating her thoughts.
I told her, that even though it may not be intentional, her texting me, is a way of being sneaky because she did not want to confront me with that request. She wanted to hide behind a text. Of course she defended her action. But I countered by telling her, even if her intent wasnt being sneaky, her delivery was not well received. And she needs to understand, that it's important to know how a message can be received or interpreted.
Moreover I told her, as I dug in, she should have never asked me to pay for house help for an expense she was already going to pay even if I didnt come. I told her, I was paying a lot just to get back there. Airfare and accommodations. So I felt, why am I being asked to pay an expense?
I told her, we both have to make sacrifices. You pay your house help expense, and I pay the expense of getting back to Nairobi. Plus, you know that when Im here, Im taking care of you anyway. Additionally, I told her that her text message did not give specific information on what it entailed or how much.
The bottom line is, her expectation of me paying for house help was a knee jerk reaction because I am a man, a foreigner, she is using a mans interest in her juicebox as leverage to get something out of a man. These are all things she doesnt see, because she is operating like a typical hypergamous, opportunistic female.
Then we got into the part about her not cooking for us, when I had bought groceries. Cooking would have been a nice gesture coming from her. I tried to get her to understand, that she was offering nothing, but expecting a man to accept that. I told her, even if she didnt want to cook, she should have compromised and did it anyway.
I didnt hesitate to give her 20k ksh when I left Nairobi the last time. I didnt have to do that. Part of that money was for her to fix her phone. Again, I didnt have to do that. I insisted again, that is one reason why her refusing to cook was met with disdain. She should have done it, even if she didnt want to.
What I got out of her, was some acknowledgement of the deficiencies I saw in her behavior/character. But her main focus was how she was dropped like a hot potato, and not given a chance. She was not expecting me to leave her alone.
I gather, as a woman, she is used to men chasing her. Or at least keep trying to stay connected to her. I think she may be used to some men being that way? Putting up with all kinds of unappreciative behavior, and disrespect when it comes to time management.
Im wise enough or experienced enough to know, that she doesnt really think she's done anything wrong. She just miscalculated how one particular man might react differently to her level of selfishness. I do accept responsibility for some of it. It's not all her doing. I believe I helped facilitate some of her opportunistic behavior, and bringing it out, by being entirely too generous with her.
Which includes the young cleaning ladies and security staff from my previous stay. RG saw how generous I was with them too. So essentially, I put a target on my back with the lot. One could say, that I got to the point where I had to reestablish my self with these people. And reverse some of the damage I may have caused showing them a weak representation of me being too kind or offering benefits unearned or undeserved.
It's like I was playing electronic chess all along with these folks. Whatever moves I made, the game made moves accordingly. If I would have not given RG 20k ksh last time, or was not concerned about helping her fix her phone from my last visit, she may not have gotten the idea of asking me for house help for the next visit.
We barely knew each other. What would make her think she is entitled to someone paying for house help? If it was a female acquaintance, would she ask her to pay for house help just so they could hang out? Of course not.
If some guy asked her to pay for his house help so he could be with her, would she pay it? Would she even entertain listening to a guy ask for house help from her? Of course not. It's mainly because of my financial status compared to hers. Me being a man ( and her a woman ). Me being a foreigner. And me showing vulnerability. My kindness was taken for weakness.
And drum roll please.......her being a typical woman using her juice box with men as leverage in order to be compensated. It's still a P4P mentality, it's just manifested under the guise of supposedly working towards a relationship. On my end, I was paying for the juice in advance, or trying to make an impression with her. Whatever the reason, it was a fake one sided relationship.
There is no telling if we will get together when I get back to Nairobi. Right at this moment were cool, but I dont know what her status will be by the time I come back. If she is available, we will f--k like rabbits. But she will be on strict probation.
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My wingman ( the one that got me coming to Africa - Tanzania and then Kenya ) communicated with me recently. He's in Mombasa. He connected with his pretend GF from Mtwapa.
This time this brother did it right. Had an airbnb unit right near the beach. Last year April we both stayed in Mtwapa right in the hood. It was only for a week, but it was one f--ked up week. My unit was on the 4th floor. In a small studio. Nice place, but not ideal for the level of comfort I was expecting/looking for.
He stayed a few blocks away in an Airbnb that was no better than mine. Last year we made the best of it. But we both swore that if we ever come to Mombasa again, we would be staying in much better accommodations close to or on the beach.
The irony of that trip, is that his pretend GF lived in the same address of my building, different entrance . When he visited her, she always accommodated him. Food, drink, place to sit. She had a daughter, and he got along with her nicely. This chick was very sweet. One evening she cooked dinner at her place, and brought it over to my place for me and him.
This happened way before I even met Restaurant Girl in Nairobi. But that nice gesture from my wingmans girl made an impression on me. Fast forward to me dealing with RG in Nairobi in Nov/Dec of 2023 and then again in March of 2024. Her never offering to cook me or us a meal. It was almost like a slap in the face in comparison to my wingman's pretend GF.
As for his time in Mombasa. He showed me the layout of his Airbnb. It had a big wrap around pool like as if he was at a resort. Plenty of room in the unit itself. Beautiful view of the beach from his balcony which had hammocks to lounge in.
For all of that, he said he paid 45 dollars a night. I asked him what did he eat while staying there. He said he ate whatever she cooked. He/they never ate out, because she cooked all of their meals. Her daughter stayed with them the entire time. So they were a happy family unit. In the day time they swam in the pool.
Like I said, next visit to Mombasa, Im getting an ocean view. Also he said his Airbnb host was super fine according to him. She supposedly has a 2 BR unit to rent. So maybe she will be who I book with down the road. I know Roxanne has expressed visiting Mombasa. If anybody deserves a trip it would be her.
There's just one major problem. I cant stand being on lock down with a chick for more than 2 nights. And I wouldnt want to come all the way to Mombasa and not stay at least a week to ten days. If I manage to get to Mombasa, why would I even want to bring sand to the beach?
There are so many women in that area that it's ridiculous. I might find myself igniting a definite love and appreciation for Kenya by being in Mombasa. Moreso than in Nairobi. Why so? Because coming from a beach front tourist environment ( Sosua/North coast ), maybe that is where I need to be. Maybe that will make me feel more at home than in Nairobi, a hustle and bustle city with no beach nearby to go to.
Mombasa has night life just like Nairobi. It has the warm temperatures that Im accustomed to. I dont really like the cloudy cool climate in Nairobi. And when it rains, it feels worse. Seeing my mans Airbnb convinced me, that it's probably Mombasa where I need to be, not Nairobi. I didnt get a chance to enjoy Mombasa the 1st time, because it was rainy season, and we stayed in the wrong area. Mtwapa
If I do consider blessing Roxanne with a vacation one day, I may consider doing that after I check out the Mombasa scene for myself solo. If it's too good, I will never bring my own sand there.