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« Reply #135 on: March 25, 2024, 06:41:58 AM »
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« Reply #136 on: March 25, 2024, 10:31:34 AM »
I checked out of Westlands Airbnb this morning.  I found a coffee mug that Restaurant Girl left there.   Decided to message her to ask her if she wanted it.  She said she bought it from a store because she thought my place did not have a coffee mug.  But it's not hers.  Just give it away, she says.   Didnt make sense, but I get it. 

Boy I must have pissed her off wwhen I stopped bothering with her since our parley.    Must be, because she was definitely bothered when I did not answer her "house help" text.  So a full week of not bothering with her may have set her over the edge.   Or maybe Im wrong, and she's been relieved not having to pretend to be in a relationship anymore.   

I failed the flunky test so she's already moved on.
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #137 on: March 27, 2024, 12:46:48 PM »
So whats been going on lately?

Been browsing my Tinder, Badoo and Tagged accounts.  Thought browsing Badoo or Tagged might bring different results.   Got to be careful on these sites.  Never assume you know who you are sending and receiving messages with.  Even if you initiate expressing interest first.

Two recent Badoo chicks have both been exchanging messages with me.  Each asking when we can meet.   Both started sending photos to my WA unsolicited.  I asked the last one, lets video chat for a few minutes.   No reply or response.   

The other one, suggested that we talk.   Called her at the designated time.   No reply, no response.  The one that was more suspect, was the one where the chick went from several texts in a row, to no response when I requested a video chat. 

If anyone read my posts from my earlier trips to Africa, I vetted a few online chicks to come to the conclusion that these sites here are infested with scammers, and hustlers.  I caution any guy coming to Kenya, to use common sense on these dating sites.

Always try to get to know who you are communicating with.  Dont assume who you are talking to based on profile pics alone, and whatever pics or videos they send you.  That stuff could be just bait to get you to commit.   Some cats actually agree to a meet and send money for transpo and havent even seen or talked to the person.   The whole interaction was through text.

Got a text from Restaurant Girl wishing me a Happy Easter Holiday week.   I guess that was a baited message to get me to react.  Or it could have been a group message, and she just happened to include me in that group.   I replied to it, wishing the same.  No reply, no response.   Best I not restart anything.  She would need to put up a lot more effort, in order for me to be Charlie Browned by her.

Roxanne is doing her usual.  Staying in touch daily, waiting for me to advise her to come down for a visit.   

Nasha sent me a message telling me never to contact her ever again.  I never bothered to respond to it.  She probably was bothered that I didnt respond to her last messages.   I kinda set her straight the day after she claimed she was robbed of her phone.   Said some things she didnt want to hear, and may have caught her off guard.   Calling her out like that, I knew that would be the end.    Being exposed by someone you thought was under pussy hypnosis, can hurt.   
« Last Edit: March 27, 2024, 12:51:34 PM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #138 on: March 27, 2024, 07:11:08 PM »
So whats been going on lately?

Been browsing my Tinder, Badoo and Tagged accounts.  Thought browsing Badoo or Tagged might bring different results.   Got to be careful on these sites.  Never assume you know who you are sending and receiving messages with.  Even if you initiate expressing interest first.

Two recent Badoo chicks have both been exchanging messages with me.  Each asking when we can meet.   Both started sending photos to my WA unsolicited.  I asked the last one, lets video chat for a few minutes.   No reply or response.   

The other one, suggested that we talk.   Called her at the designated time.   No reply, no response.  The one that was more suspect, was the one where the chick went from several texts in a row, to no response when I requested a video chat. 

If anyone read my posts from my earlier trips to Africa, I vetted a few online chicks to come to the conclusion that these sites here are infested with scammers, and hustlers.  I caution any guy coming to Kenya, to use common sense on these dating sites.

Always try to get to know who you are communicating with.  Dont assume who you are talking to based on profile pics alone, and whatever pics or videos they send you.  That stuff could be just bait to get you to commit.   Some cats actually agree to a meet and send money for transpo and havent even seen or talked to the person.   The whole interaction was through text.

Got a text from Restaurant Girl wishing me a Happy Easter Holiday week.   I guess that was a baited message to get me to react.  Or it could have been a group message, and she just happened to include me in that group.   I replied to it, wishing the same.  No reply, no response.   Best I not restart anything.  She would need to put up a lot more effort, in order for me to be Charlie Browned by her.

Roxanne is doing her usual.  Staying in touch daily, waiting for me to advise her to come down for a visit.   

Nasha sent me a message telling me never to contact her ever again.  I never bothered to respond to it.  She probably was bothered that I didnt respond to her last messages.   I kinda set her straight the day after she claimed she was robbed of her phone.   Said some things she didnt want to hear, and may have caught her off guard.   Calling her out like that, I knew that would be the end.    Being exposed by someone you thought was under pussy hypnosis, can hurt.

Great information. Basically, stay away from the internet and meet women "in the flesh."

Keep giving us tips. A few questions.

1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?

2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.

3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.


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Re: Nairobi Kenya Trip
« Reply #139 on: March 27, 2024, 08:21:31 PM »


Great information. Basically, stay away from the internet and meet women "in the flesh."

Keep giving us tips. A few questions.

1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?

2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.

3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.
Im going to answer the best I can.   I would not say stay away from the internet, especially to guys that are able and willing to practice safe hunting.  IMO, dealing with chicks face to face can be just as risky as finding them on the internet.  Besides, it's hard to determine which chicks are not on the internet.  A face to face meet might be with a chick who still has a profile on several dating sites.   

Any scamming and/or opportunism can manifest itself, in either category.   It doesnt matter, women are women.  I have two recent live examples.   Plus Ive made numerous observations since Ive been coming here.  Restaurant Girl, I met face to face in Nairobi at her restaurant, and Roxanne I met on Tinder and she lives 3 hrs away from where I am in Nairobi.

Between the two, RG I see as being more devious, and opportunistic than Roxanne.  My 1st visit to Kenya in 2022, I posted how I met my 1st Tinder hookup.  We did not do video chat, only voice messaging.   Then we met at Java House in the mall.  A typical place for internet meets.  Ive seen a ton of internet meets.  The only one paying is the guys.  SMH.    Chick was attractive.  But she was boring as hell.  No conversational skills at all.   No real job.   

According to her , she had an online business selling shoes.  In other words, no steady reliable income from doing that.  Claimed to live with family.  Not much into watching TV,  doesnt drink, so I couldnt loosen her up with some spirits.  Doesnt talk much,  so it was hard to entertain her at my Airbnb. 

So the 1st time she came to my Airbnb, the communication wasnt working, I just guided her to the bedroom and we f--ked like rabbits.  Chick was passionate in the bedroom, but a dead fish otherwise.  I deduced from my experience with her, that hundreds and thousands of women here are on the internet mostly to hustle.   

I gave her 4000 ksh, the next morning.   Receiving compensation for her time, getting some foreigner dick, and getting some female validation is what she came for.   Enough women here can do that every day 24/7.   Like it's a routine or a religion.

Earn cash, get free meals, entertainment and validation.  It could be their main source of income, or a supplement even for chicks with jobs.  With that being said, none of these chicks can be trusted or taken seriously.   For them to be other than they represent, would take months and years of being a different type of woman to a man.   

Which most men will never get to experience.  Its usually, one way.   What the man can/will do for a woman.   Not the other way around.   The minute they see you, your status to them is about what you bring to their table.  Especially in contrast to their own men.

There is no shortage of Kenyan or other African men to date or mate these women.  The problem for these women, the average African man already knows most of the women are f--ked up in their minds.   Imma take a slight detour into why I think thats so.   What Im about to say was also shared by one of my recent taxi drivers here.

Anytime a society empowers women, sometimes over men, doing that can cause chaos within the community and family structure.  Additionally, when ever women are allowed to act irresponsibly with their sexuality, the whole society pays the price.   It makes the society look like one big fat pay 4 play arena. 

Women have got it in their heads, that they are the prize.  And men here act like it.  Many dont have much leverage in the dating mating game.  Foreigners tend to have more leverage.  But many foreigners dont know how to master their leverage.  Enough foreigners are still acting like the women they seek here, are the main prize. 

So we have some severely inflated egos of women running amuck here.  To some extent some are humbled, because they do realize they still want to be cared for, and many dont want the responsibility of taking care of themselves 100%.   A lot of women cant survive without mens input.   A lot of women just dont know shit about a lot of things.   Foreigner men, with a head on their shoulders would run circles around enough of these women here when it comes to knowledge, wisdom, troubleshooting skills and life experience.   

But if were transient, we can only provide what they need in the moment,  some quick cash.  Or if a guy desires to put himself in that position, a LD provider.

The common denominator here?  For me, I look at all women here as being f--ked up in one form or another, until proven otherwise.   Take Roxanne.  Roxanne is turning 40.  Has 3 kids.  A 16yr old boy in boarding school, a 13yr old girl and a younger daughter at home.   

When she leaves home to travel 3hrs to come to see me for 2 days, she is leaving her girls with a so called babysitter or house help.   I get to have some good juice and company.  Technically, for a Kenyan man looking for a good woman, what does she bring to his table?

It's not enough that she is cooperative in the bedroom.  But what kind of mindset does she have to go visit some dude for 2 days and leave her kids?   A lot of women are doing this.  Maybe they feel they need to, in order to survive.  Whether you meet them in person or online.   

Even if no kids are involved, there is always something about enough of these women, that a man knows is just not right with them.  So it's always wise to proceed with caution when dealing with these women.   Once a man expresses liking a woman, the cat and mouse game begins.  "Oh, you like me huh?  Well okay, thats gonna cost ya"    Just watch how it plays out.   

It's not my concern to solve anything here.  Im just here for the juice.  It's what mongers do.   Take advantage of a market which that destination provides.   We dont make the conditions or the circumstances.   But we do indirectly help economies.    I will address the questions you asked next. 



 
« Last Edit: March 27, 2024, 09:56:36 PM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #140 on: March 27, 2024, 09:41:39 PM »
1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?

This is my educated guess from life experience and my perspective from being here, along with what my recent Bolt Taxi driver told us the other day when we went to the Gikomba Market.   

Many of these women have multiple men on retainer.  According to the driver, enough of these women will have a roster of men that they use for specific functions.  Some men may perform several desirable functions for these women, at the same time. 

I dont even need to list them. Im sure any man can figure that out.  So for Kenyan men, that is what they have to deal with.  So even if a man is able to get his needs met, there is no long term value with any of these women.  Because one man may not be relied upon to satisfy all of their indulgences.  What I dont know, is if local Kenyan men in ABUNDANCE lay in the cut while their women are out there hustling and/or scheming.

So far, I get the impression that most women if they are hustling they are doing it behind their mens backs, rather than men hiding out until some foreigner leaves.  And that most local men do not want to share their women like that.   Thing is, I really dont know.  I need to seek feedback from local men that know.   I never thought to dig further.  But it did register, that many women here do take advantage of having several men interested in them doing their bidding.   BTW, there is one default perspective I have, when it comes to women.  Women with children, is not an attractive arrangement for enough local men.

In other words, almost everywhere you go, local men avoid taking on the responsibility of helping women raise another mans kids.  Enough local men only want to be that womans stud.  Not much more.  There are exceptions of course.   In the US, men tend to walk smack dead into ready made families,  hoping that will lead to some good steady juice.   It usually back fires.   A typical man in the states will find himself taking on more responsibility for a womans kids, than they anticipated.

Other men in foreign countries tend to avoid women with children altogether.  Except if some easy juice is available.   

2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.

Because I feel enough women may have been abandoned by their men, except for when those men come around to score some juice, enough women will make themselves available to a foreigner that approaches them.  Any local man they have they may put him on pause, and give him the usual excuses of why she is unavailable.   Like she's going out with her gf's.   Going to be gone a few days to see family or she's sick, or she's on her period.   etc.   Whatever lie it takes, they want him to believe. 

IMO the more attractive they are, the more in demand and the more offers they are probably getting publicly, and while online.  What I mean is, even if you meet women  while they are working a job, those same women probably still have an online profile on several dating sites too.    They are getting action and offers from many angles. 

Life can be a full time job of potential offers coming their way, of men offering dick.   Them making themselves available, and being easy to exchange numbers with, is nothing for any of us to be impressed by.  It's just a part of doing business.   "Oh,  you like me huh?"  Well, thats gonna cost ya, here take my number".    "Oh so you are here on holiday?"  "No problem, I got time for you, here take my number."    She can squeeze any man into her schedule when possible, without any local BF or hungry suitor in the wings suspecting anything.

What they dont know cant hurt her.   


3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.

I believe it is an issue, but I havent put much thought into it, in regards to how I might be affected by it.  There are so many women here, that as long as a guy can get his needs met,  it may not be anything that he'll be affected by.   BTW the colorism issue I think manifests itself in a couple of ways.   

One is enough women here have issues with their own skin color.   So enough here are into lightening themselves.  Others when it comes to putting themselves on display, use filters to make themselves look lighter than they are in person.   

The other situation is when the women only want to date men that are white or extremely light.  I found out in conversation, that RG dated a white guy before.   I suspect that she has colorism issues herself.   The 1st set of pics she sent me, she had one pic making her look like she got hit with a sack of flour.   

She is an example of what I meant, by enough of these women has something f--ked up about them.  You just need to be perceptive enough as a man to find out what those things are.   Many times us men take those things into consideration, but dont really pay it much mind unless it affects us directly.   

Usually we are getting something out of it, what we came for.   Which is getting some good juice.  The women being f--ked up is no reflection on us.   It's not like we made them who they are.  It's not like were trying to wife them up, and start a family or to join a ready made family.   

The women put out a product, they want compensation for.   Like making homemade biscuits in their kitchens, packaging it, and then going out to sell to the public.   Hope I answered the questions.   There is a lot I still dont know about this environment, the customs, it's women and the people here.   Im still in training, and observation mode.

A lot of my opinions come from using my experience and making educated guesses.   And a little I get from local men.  I even take what they tell me, with caution.  Their motivation may be to tell me or any foreigner what they think they want to hear.   
« Last Edit: March 28, 2024, 04:59:52 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #141 on: March 27, 2024, 10:07:46 PM »
Another thing comes to mind that should be considered.

Im an older cat.   Some women here may still find me attractive.  But my experiences and observations with women here, may be distinctly different than what a younger cat in his prime may experience. 

The other thing to note, is that I havent interacted with many women here who are educated and/or very well off financially.   If I had, my experiences and observations might be distinctly different. 

I do feel this, a lot of the women that I dont find very attractive, or down right undesirable to me, might treat me a lot different than the barracuda type behavior I tend to see from attractive women, worldwide.   But I just cant be with a chick I am not attracted to. 

The women who are the cream of the crop here ( in terms of looks, finances and education ) are probably looking for men who are above what I have or provide more than Im willing to offer.  Or who are easier to manipulate or easier to get them to do their bidding.   Which is fine for me.  I like average, cooperative, team player type women that I also find attractive.   
« Last Edit: March 27, 2024, 11:04:40 PM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #142 on: March 27, 2024, 10:11:30 PM »
It's a little after six in the morning here.  It's pitch black out, and I hear an argument going on outside with a couple.  It's definitely an African woman.   I cant tell if the man is a foreigner or a Kenyan. 

Update.  It wasnt what I thought.  The commotion was coming from the bungalow buildings next door.  One of the male security guards was talking to one of the female cleaning staff members.   They were talking louder than they should.  Maybe they had some form of dispute, but it wasnt a big issue.  I just didnt expect to hear that so early in the morning.     

BTW, my buddy/wingman had his 2nd Tagged chick over last night.

I got a chance to hear some quality banging coming from his room.  Meanwhile, I havent had any guests over since Roxanne left a week ago.   

I checked my phone.  The Badoo chick I wanted to video chat with did respond, but not fast enough.  She's still asking in text, when can we meet?    I would have told her when, if I got a chance to see her on video.   The only problem I have, I am not interested in meeting any chicks at dining venues.   Or paying for taxis for them to get there.   This Badoo chick said in her profile, No House Dates.  LOL.

But unless I know for sure, most of these women think the default setting for a meet, is the guy inviting the chick somewhere for him to spend money.   Then if things dont work out, he gets the bill, while the chick gets fed.   These chicks have the same mindset as other women.   

That if a man doesnt want to invest first in the woman online, then he isnt worth her time.    Very hard to find a genuine woman actually interested in the guys they meet online.   The one thing I cant ignore, and neither should other men,  is what exactly does the woman want from a guy she knows does not live in her country?   

No matter what it is, Im sure it doesnt serve the mans best interest.   And most men dont bother to pursue an answer, because were just hoping the juice will just fall into our laps.   But really.   Maybe dudes should put these chicks on the spot.  Make them show their hand.   I see in a lot of female profiles, telling guys , dont ask me why I am on this site.   They dont want guys to ask, because the answer will probably reveal a lot more of their unsavory intentions that they dont want a man to know.   
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Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #143 on: March 27, 2024, 10:37:08 PM »
This is awesome information. I always love reading your reports, and although I was initially excited about Kenya, I feel it can wait a bit until I conquer territory closer to home (DR, Colombia, Mexico, Costa Rica Panama).

The reason I asked is that in the "training wheel" P4P environments of Sosua and Pattaya the changes of a jealous husband coming into your room with a machete are slim (high for Colombia but that's another conversation). Any women that have a man can be had for a price of course, but I always want to be a bit careful in that regard. In some countries there is a stigma or "foreigners dogging our women" which results in jealousy of the local men. Many Ukrainian men for example hate that Black men date their women.

Women with kids is always an easy target no matter where you go, so it figures they are going to be money-hungry because their bills are obviously higher. Frankly, I don't try to get too close to ANY women anymore no matter what part of the world they are from and always keep an arms distance and my heart guarded. She's not yours; it's just your turn.

The skin question was purely out of curiosity. You see it in Asian, and African societies so I figured it resonated in Kenya too.






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« Reply #144 on: March 27, 2024, 11:22:15 PM »
Even if I score some different juice here before I leave here.  Im done here for the time being.   There is nothing or nobody here in Nairobi to hold my interest to stay longer.  It may be 3 to 4 months, or more before I decide to come back.   

And most likely, I would only want to come back if one of my wingmen also joined me.   Especially the guys I talked to that have never been here before.   Who were hoping I would be here for them.

Im so looking forward to my return home, to Sosua.   

It's too cold here in Nairobi.  Their rainy season is about to begin in a few days.  I got a sample of whats to come yesterday evening.   In Sosua it's warm, it's sunny.   I can get back into my routine.  I have friends and acquaintances.  The social aspect is much better for me in Sosua than here in Nairobi.   
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #145 on: March 27, 2024, 11:47:55 PM »
Even if I score some different juice here before I leave here.  Im done here for the time being.   There is nothing or nobody here in Nairobi to hold my interest to stay longer.  It may be 3 to 4 months, or more before I decide to come back.   

And most likely, I would only want to come back if one of my wingmen also joined me.   Especially the guys I talked to that have never been here before.   Who were hoping I would be here for them.

Im so looking forward to my return home, to Sosua.   

It's too cold here in Nairobi.  Their rainy season is about to begin in a few days.  I got a sample of whats to come yesterday evening.   In Sosua it's warm, it's sunny.   I can get back into my routine.  I have friends and acquaintances.  The social aspect is much better for me in Sosua than here in Nairobi.

For people who are social, Sosua's brotherhood is unlike anywhere in the world. There are many friends I have made to this day I still keep contact with, and one I travel with regularly. Yes, there are freaks and weirdos like everywhere but the vast majority of brothers, especially old cats, are cool as hell. You'll always run into friendly people, and I always say for a first timer traveling solo, Sosua is amazing. Great memories and really reminds me of my younger college days. The best things is that new guys fly in all the time and spice things up if you're not clicking with certain people. I always try to pass my knowledge to young(er) cats too who are learning the ropes.
 
I also understand the flip side of people wanting to spend time with their crew or go at things solo. You can do that too if you wish...But I always find it more fun to go with one or two cool cats.

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« Reply #146 on: March 28, 2024, 04:08:16 AM »
I have to say, my buddy/wingman has done well with his Tagged contacts.  Why so?  In both cases, the purpose of the arrangement was discussed upfront.  Meaning, both chicks expressed interest in being compensated if they came to visit him.   No meeting places.  Just come over and put in the work. Both chicks spent the night.   

The 1st Badoo chick that I called last night, messaged me on Whatsapp this morning.  Supposedly from work.  She apologized for the missed call.  She claims, she did not have an active phone bundle at the time.  Their phone bundles comes with free Whatsapp.

But the chick never told me she wouldnt be able to receive a Whatsapp call from me, when she was home.   She figured I'd have calling minutes to use to make a regular call.  Once again, a chick seeing some man as a walking bank or ATM machine. 

Im considered rich, shes considered entitled, and Im a man.  So the onus is all on a man to make the effort, and burn up his minutes in his bundle just to contact her.   In the DR, what do enough women do?   Call a dude and then hang up.  Expecting the guy to call them back.   

The intelligent thing to do, was for her to let me know the best way to contact her, and for me not to use Whatsapp because she did not have internet at home.  The reason why that was important for me to know, is because Whatsapp was the only form of communication that we had established after moving from Badoo.   So of course, I would call her using Whatsapp.

After her explanation, do you think she decided to call me, or arrange to call me, now that she was at work?   No, she didnt.   Do you think she decided to inform me that she would get a bundle today, so that we could talk later?  No she didnt.   She left me no choice but to deduce, that she was hoping that I would offer to buy her a phone bundle.   

If this was me or another dude, a man would have said something.  "Hey man, I will call you now."  Or "Im busy now" or "I cant make calls here, I will call you later."  "I'll get me a bundle, and reach out to you later."  Thats what I would expect to hear from another man. 

But this shit here, this a practice I am all too familiar with, and I believe a lot of women do that here.    "You like me huh?"  "Well why dont you buy me a bundle handsome, then we can stay in touch?"  ( she didnt actually say that, thats what I believe her and other women hope would happen, when they tell a guy that they lack something ).   

This is the non verbal communication that I often refer to when Im talking about men being very perceptive and intuitive in how enough women communicate things they want or expect from men without being direct and upfront about it.  Men need not fall into these frivolous traps, once they recognize what's really going on.   DONT SIMP or STOP SIMPING GUYS.
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Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #147 on: March 28, 2024, 05:01:48 AM »

For people who are social, Sosua's brotherhood is unlike anywhere in the world. There are many friends I have made to this day I still keep contact with, and one I travel with regularly. Yes, there are freaks and weirdos like everywhere but the vast majority of brothers, especially old cats, are cool as hell. You'll always run into friendly people, and I always say for a first timer traveling solo, Sosua is amazing. Great memories and really reminds me of my younger college days. The best things is that new guys fly in all the time and spice things up if you're not clicking with certain people. I always try to pass my knowledge to young(er) cats too who are learning the ropes.
 
I also understand the flip side of people wanting to spend time with their crew or go at things solo. You can do that too if you wish...But I always find it more fun to go with one or two cool cats.
A f--kin Men, and Hallelujah, my brother. 
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #148 on: March 28, 2024, 12:33:34 PM »
Early this morning, the 2nd Badoo girl started off with sending me a "Good morning".  Then, "How are you?"    I told her, "Im doing fine so far.  How are you doing?"   Then I sent her this message. 

You mentioned us possibly meeting?   What kind of meetings work for you?   I see you indicated in your profile that you don't do house dates.   I can understand that.   I learned that lunch, dinner or drink meetings are not the best way to set up a meet.  Unless each person agrees to take care of their own expenses for that first meet.    What say you?    I was laughing my ass off when I sent that message. 

That was about 12:30pm, and it's after 8pm now.  For some reason, I never got a response?  I wonder why?   Could it be that her data bundle which includes WhatsApp expired like the other girl?   

From 2 PM until 5:30 PM my buddy and I ended up downtown again ( in the Central Business District ).   So many people were walking around.  This is supposed to be Easter holiday weekend here.   So that might have something to do with the volume of people we saw walking around.   

We were constantly singled out by beggars and panhandlers, I suppose because we were foreigners.    We watched them bypass every Kenyan around us, focusing their attention only on us.   

One girl stood in front of my buddy with what she had in her hand to sell.  My buddy told her about a dozen times, No thank you.  She just kept on trying.  She wouldnt budge.  After a few minutes, I remembered what we always told Dominican women in order to get them to leave us alone, or to get rid of them. 

Just tell them, that you dont have any money.  So I told the girl, my friend doesnt have any money.  Apparently those were the universal magic words to get her to leave.   And me telling the Badoo chick that I think lunch, dinner or drink meets arent a good idea, unless each party pays their own expenses......those were my magic words.   

« Last Edit: March 29, 2024, 05:07:09 AM by murano2010 »
Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.  The words enough, some, many , to whom it applies to, does not mean ALL of any people, places or things.  If you cant, dont or wont learn from friends, family or your peers, dont worry the locals will teach you, and you will learn the hard way.

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« Reply #149 on: March 31, 2024, 09:19:27 PM »
So whats been going on lately?

Been browsing my Tinder, Badoo and Tagged accounts.  Thought browsing Badoo or Tagged might bring different results.   Got to be careful on these sites.  Never assume you know who you are sending and receiving messages with.  Even if you initiate expressing interest first.

Two recent Badoo chicks have both been exchanging messages with me.  Each asking when we can meet.   Both started sending photos to my WA unsolicited.  I asked the last one, lets video chat for a few minutes.   No reply or response.   

The other one, suggested that we talk.   Called her at the designated time.   No reply, no response.  The one that was more suspect, was the one where the chick went from several texts in a row, to no response when I requested a video chat. 

If anyone read my posts from my earlier trips to Africa, I vetted a few online chicks to come to the conclusion that these sites here are infested with scammers, and hustlers.  I caution any guy coming to Kenya, to use common sense on these dating sites.

Always try to get to know who you are communicating with.  Dont assume who you are talking to based on profile pics alone, and whatever pics or videos they send you.  That stuff could be just bait to get you to commit.   Some cats actually agree to a meet and send money for transpo and havent even seen or talked to the person.   The whole interaction was through text.

Got a text from Restaurant Girl wishing me a Happy Easter Holiday week.   I guess that was a baited message to get me to react.  Or it could have been a group message, and she just happened to include me in that group.   I replied to it, wishing the same.  No reply, no response.   Best I not restart anything.  She would need to put up a lot more effort, in order for me to be Charlie Browned by her.

Roxanne is doing her usual.  Staying in touch daily, waiting for me to advise her to come down for a visit.   

Nasha sent me a message telling me never to contact her ever again.  I never bothered to respond to it.  She probably was bothered that I didnt respond to her last messages.   I kinda set her straight the day after she claimed she was robbed of her phone.   Said some things she didnt want to hear, and may have caught her off guard.   Calling her out like that, I knew that would be the end.    Being exposed by someone you thought was under pussy hypnosis, can hurt.

Great information. Basically, stay away from the internet and meet women "in the flesh."

Keep giving us tips. A few questions.

1. Are most of these women truly single, or do they have BF/husbands at home?

2. Is it easy to pull them out of their everyday habits. What I mean is let's say you meet a nice girl at a mall. Will they drop their activities to go on a date? Seems to me like street game is the way to go and not these online dating sites.

3. I heard there is colorism in Kenya and that lighter skin are seen a more beautiful (not unlike Thailand or other places). I hope they can get past this, but I heard it's an issue.

The dynamics are similar all over the world theres a lot of single mothers with no Man looking for one.

It depends the chicks who hang out at the mall are there because of you. Kenya does a even better job than the DR and Colombia as a whole of kicking out beggars and people unlikely to be able to buy anything there, The vast Majority of Kenyans rich or poor would shop in CBD or Gikomba market or the markets in Eastleigh shit is way cheaper there and much closer to where they live.

Again it's not like the artificial evironment of Sosua again if a Kenyan woman is at an upscale Mall there's a reason so it's highly unlikely she'll drop everything to go on a date with you right then and there but she will take your number unless she works at the mall in which case it's far less likely or she'll call you waaaaaay after the fact.


The colorism situation is the same in the states no matter how dark you are you're seen as white in Africa. They really like and admire African Americans generally speaking.

 







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