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Title: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: ENY2SOSUA on June 16, 2015, 11:59:30 AM
Anyone else hear about this?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: JayMillz on June 16, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
Anyone else hear about this?

Hopefully, it been in the news and an issue for a very long time?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: phillypbs1914 on June 16, 2015, 02:03:30 PM
This is f--ked up.  It's all the same island, seperated by manmade borders. SMH
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Mr_Magnificent on June 16, 2015, 02:25:14 PM
I was just going to create a post about this...smh. Crazy man!

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/06/dominican_republic_plans_mass_deportation_of_haitian_families.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/12/us-dominicanrepublic-citizenship-idUSBRE99B01Z20131012
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Kidrocky on June 16, 2015, 03:24:43 PM
 I read about this yesterday. There's also a petition going around to boycott Dominican republic
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 16, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
The U.S. Secretary of State Mr. Keary and the DR/Haiti Ambassador boys need to take a swallow from the jug labelled "Shut The f--k Up!!"


1. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of citizens incarcerated and 60% are African American nationwide. (That's 2 Generations)

2. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of citizens incarcerated that are African American with the longest prison sentences.

3. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of citizens murdered by the police that are African American.

4. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of Law Enforcement Officers that have not been charged or prosecuted of Police Brutality & Murder of African Americans.

FACT:  In NY City of all the police involved shootings/killings of suspects (and those in custody) under Mayor Gulliani  ---NOT 1 WAS WHITE!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 16, 2015, 08:04:19 PM
 5. The US also leads the world in African Americans killing African Americans.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Mr_Magnificent on June 16, 2015, 08:07:38 PM
What does any of that have to do with Hatians being deported from DR?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 16, 2015, 08:13:29 PM
What does any of that have to do with Hatians being deported from DR?
No idea....I was just helping out Blacknight with his list.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 16, 2015, 08:54:18 PM
Things could get very scary if the DR tries to enforce this. Imagine the US trying to deport all the illegals. You could secure an area but plenty would just move around. Even in the DR which is an island it is so loaded with corrupt border guards its just not going to happen. Maybe they will get started and realize its just not possible and give up. That's the most likely scenario I see.

And TightKnight ....you might want to keep your racist agenda private.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 16, 2015, 09:07:49 PM
A surprisingly large percentage of equity mutual fund managers fail to beat the S&P 500.

The official unemployment rate stands near 6%, but the U-6 measure of unemployment as provided by the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows a much higher rate.

The yield on the U.S. 10 year note currently sits below 2.5%.  Many pundits expect both short and longer-term yields to rise through the end of the year as the Federal Reserve begins to raise short-short-term rates.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 16, 2015, 10:58:33 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: aztx88 on June 16, 2015, 11:27:52 PM
if dominicans want to kick out hatian let them why the f--k should any of yall care it's not your country they run it they can do whatever the f--k they wanna do. just worry about the u.s.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Mr_Magnificent on June 16, 2015, 11:57:04 PM


And TightKnight ....you might want to keep your racist agenda private.

Smh...Racist agenda? From a guy that tried to steer the thread convo back to the issue the OP started...What did BK say that wasn't true dude? I mean those are all facts...wsy?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: LAKESIDE40 on June 17, 2015, 07:31:23 AM
This will b a serious problem if they're gonna deport Dominican born citizens holding dominican birth certs ... i agree too to not interfere with these dumbasses , but this will bring the sort of attention they don't need and before u know it starts jeopardizing my fishing trips(unlimited sex with the chicas)
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Bismarck on June 17, 2015, 07:35:04 AM
This is f--ked up.  It's all the same island, seperated by manmade borders. SMH

Two very different parts, DR was the spanish part, Haiti the french
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 17, 2015, 09:30:13 AM
Shit is f--ked up tho
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: JayMillz on June 17, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
I read about this yesterday. There's also a petition going around to boycott Dominican republic

This is a great idea and will also solve the boycott Clasicos issue.  Ya'll stay home with Obama and deal with the illegal Mexican problem in the USA.  Hold hands, sing We Shall Overcome and have a good oldschool boycott of the DR; I'm sure your boycott will solve the hate most Dominicans have for their neighbors.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 17, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
Bingo!    It is the exact same problem. The Hatians & The Mexicans come across the border seeking a better life. The only jobs they get are those that others don't want or won't do. Their job performance is stellar. But due to the will of those in power that are motivated by varous 'ism's' this piece of Dominican Legislation was passed. Unlike the U.S.; they are actually doing something other than maintaining a revolving door.
The Haitian government won't cry  too loud.  They still gotta explain to the world where $10 Billion is Earthquake Relief Funds went with not a goddamn thing to show for it.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 17, 2015, 12:50:08 PM
Since the days of President Rafael Trujillo, up until today, the ruling class of the Dominican Republic has always had a white supremist adgenda. Everything since the Hatian genocide (Parsley Massacre/genocide) which occured in the Dominican Republic, practically every Dominican denies the African blood of their great grandmothers that flows through their viens. Some will deny this, but Dominicans will always define themselves as "spanish" (a language not a race) as oppose to saying they are Blacks who speak spanish. They cant say they are from Spain because people from Spain will vehimately say get he F--K out of and laugh at thier claim of being Spanish and the way they speak Spanish.     

The entire planet (including the Dominican Republic) has been infected with the evils of white supremacy which (if you realy understand it) is the greatest form of wickedness on the planet.   One Love !
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Troy Hopkins on June 17, 2015, 01:26:00 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!
You forgot to talk about the other FACTS. What about African Americans killing other African Americans?....that's ok....right? SMH It's easy to identify a racist...and you my man, are a racist.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: nickmirr on June 17, 2015, 01:34:37 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!
You forgot to talk about the other FACTS. What about African Americans killing other African Americans?....that's ok....right? SMH It's easy to identify a racist...and you my man, are a racist.

@Troy Hopkins,

I beg to differ sir...... Blknight maybe many things, but racist he is not.. He is 100% pro-black and he stands by that and hasn't wavered since I've been a member of this site.... Your opinion is respected, but in my opinion he is far from a racist.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Troy Hopkins on June 17, 2015, 03:18:35 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!
You forgot to talk about the other FACTS. What about African Americans killing other African Americans?....that's ok....right? SMH It's easy to identify a racist...and you my man, are a racist.

@Troy Hopkins,

I beg to differ sir...... Blknight maybe many things, but racist he is not.. He is 100% pro-black and he stands by that and hasn't wavered since I've been a member of this site.... Your opinion is respected, but in my opinion he is far from a racist.
Your opinion is respected also my man. All I can go on is what's written on this board. I'm not the only one that feels this way. To each his own my brotha.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: nickmirr on June 17, 2015, 03:35:22 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!
You forgot to talk about the other FACTS. What about African Americans killing other African Americans?....that's ok....right? SMH It's easy to identify a racist...and you my man, are a racist.

@Troy Hopkins,

I beg to differ sir...... Blknight maybe many things, but racist he is not.. He is 100% pro-black and he stands by that and hasn't wavered since I've been a member of this site.... Your opinion is respected, but in my opinion he is far from a racist.
Your opinion is respected also my man. All I can go on is what's written on this board. I'm not the only one that feels this way. To each his own my brotha.

@Troy,

RESPECT my dude....
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: fucupayme on June 17, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
I'm tired of hearing this black on black crime false argument.  White folk kill each other at almost the same rate. 89% if my memory serves me correctly.  Not to mention the cdc numbers show the black male homicide rate has is 1/3 below rate of 1950 and 1960 which means black folk ain't t killing each other as much as the media portray.  The cdc numbers also show that numbers pertaining to violent crime per capita indicate white folk are committing more vent crime than any race.  Stop creating this false arguments about black on black crime to justify white folks agenda to marginalize us.  I usually don't post but I read through the forums and I can unequivocally say that black knight is not a racist.  Pro black yes.  Racist no.  Look up everything black knight has posted and show me where he is not telling g the truth.  The United States don't have a leg to stand on to lecture anyone on moral ethics.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 17, 2015, 05:17:49 PM
The U.S. Secretary of State Mr. Keary and the DR/Haiti Ambassador boys need to take a swallow from the jug labelled "Shut The f--k Up!!"


1. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of citizens incarcerated and 60% are African American nationwide. (That's 2 Generations)

2. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of citizens incarcerated that are African American with the longest prison sentences.

3. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of citizens murdered by the police that are African American.

4. The U.S. now leads the world in the number of Law Enforcement Officers that have not been charged or prosecuted of Police Brutality & Murder of African Americans.

FACT:  In NY City of all the police involved shootings/killings of suspects (and those in custody) under Mayor Gulliani  ---NOT 1 WAS WHITE!
I guess the moral of the story for ALL incarcerated Americans would be: Don't break the law and you won't go to jail. Seems pretty easy to understand.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 17, 2015, 05:40:20 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!

TightKnight face it your a racist with a racist agenda. This attitude is what is setting back race relations for law abiding hard working African Americans.  Your response is a perfect example of your problem.

If you act in public like you do on the this forum I feel pretty bad for you and anyone who has to deal with you. I doubt you find it easy to get good jobs or make friends with good people.

The world is not a perfect place but if you work hard and strive to be a law abiding member of society you can make a great life for yourself. Anyone can.

If you think everyone owes you respect and better treatment than someone else who worked harder and acted nicer than you then get over it and dry up those tears little fella the world can be a cruel place!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 17, 2015, 05:47:27 PM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!
You forgot to talk about the other FACTS. What about African Americans killing other African Americans?....that's ok....right? SMH It's easy to identify a racist...and you my man, are a racist.

@Troy Hopkins,

I beg to differ sir...... Blknight maybe many things, but racist he is not.. He is 100% pro-black and he stands by that and hasn't wavered since I've been a member of this site.... Your opinion is respected, but in my opinion he is far from a racist.

If you don't think TightKnight has posted racist views on at least 2 occasions this week you might to look a little further. All I did was ask to keep the racist personal agenda which has nothing to do with the topic of the post.

In return I was told to f--k myself and my mother was ignorant? Maybe that's normal for some people and I am out of touch in my old age?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 17, 2015, 05:54:21 PM
On “Blacks Killing Blacks”, you damn right that is true.
 
One of the starkest, negative statistics of the African American community is a fact; a black man is 10 times more likely to be killed by “Homicide” at the hands of another black man than anybody else.  But note, those murders are occurring predominately in the inner cities across America nationwide.  Poor people with limited opportunities based on their circumstances that live in crime ridden urban areas.
 
What causes the uproar in the black community nationwide is when a white male civilian or white law enforcement officer kills an African American male (AAM)  Why?  Because the next category of “Who killed an Young African American Male”-----IS BY WHITE MEN!  And these killings are not occurring in the ghettos across America.  They are not occurring in the predominately black housing projects of the inner cities.  The killings are in fact occurring in the suburbs all across America by NRA card carrying whites that are armed to the teeth claiming they are so afraid of ------“Black Men”.  Why is that?

How did suddenly white folks get so afraid of Black men in the suburbs that are---sitting at Starbucks?  So afraid of a Black man selling lose cigarettes that it is punishable by death on the spot? And those they just had to kill that were at their wedding dinner.  So afraid that white women are in so fear of their lives of black children that are crossing the street and are in the crosswalk and they just had to run them over? How about those terrorist teenagers sitting in a car listening to music on the car radio?  How about those kids walking home from the corner store armed with Skittles and Ice Tea? Let us not fail to recognize the 12 yr old that just had to die in 4 seconds that was allegedly reaching for his gun. But wait, least we not forget the police officer video-taped killing a black man by shooting him in the back & then planting evidence trying to stage a crime scene. Armed with a bikini, that black girl is slammed to the ground by the police and then pulls his gun on yet again; unarmed teenagers. See ya in the unemployment line and ya damn right; she gonna get paid!
   
The “White Community” led by the FOX News & several syndicated radio Bigoted, Bat Shit, Bigmouths such as Sean Hannity, Bill O’ Reilly & Rush Limbaugh and others lead off with the same narrative which is that “the likes of Rev. Jessie Jackson & Rev. Al Sharpton and others are all a gang of Race Baiters and they have a Racist Agenda.   The riots and news coverage of a white killing a black was purposely turned into a polarizing media circus.  They clearly don’t say anything when a black man kills another black man so therefore they have a racist agenda.”

For all the ignorant people that just don’t get it; Rev Al & Rev Jackson and other predominate members of the African American community and now even to include myself, are chastised publicly for bringing the irritating & inconvenient facts & truths to light as follows;

1.   The AA male killed was unarmed and a child/teenager. (No Threat Whatsoever)

2.   The AA male killed was unarmed. (The White Officer has a Police Cruiser, A Radio, a Taser, Mace & a Nightstick) but the police always shoot to kill 1st in dealing Black men.  Whites are not shot at in the lowest of percentages of all police shootings.

3.   The AA male killed was not resisting arrest and/or in police custody and was murdered. (BLACK MEN DO NOT HANG/NOR SHOOT THEMSELVES.  NOR WHILE IN CUSTODY) A published fact that you will find in any Psychology 101 book on any college campus. Blacks don't kill themselves.  (But we will catch HIV for f--king without condoms!)

4.   There were clearly other options other than lethal/deadly force that could have been used to defuse the situation.

5.   The majority of the AA males that were killed had no police record whatsoever.  Parking tickets and Speeding Tickets aside?   

6.   Systemic patterns of racism blatantly exist in the community in which Whites are disproportionately governing and policing a larger Black population.  Blacks especially those with promising futures receive the harshest penalties for the most simplistic youthful crimes associated with their age group; even when the evidence CLEARLY shows their innocence.  (Jamison Winston, Allen Iverson, Randy Moss)

For those that are in awe with the United States Armed Forces, the most powerful military on the face of the earth; please read “All That We Can Be” and you will learn what we as a nation can (and did) overcome and achieve once we changed our military culture.  Change?  Didn’t somebody win two big elections off of a theme called “Hope & Change”.  The audacity of the idea!
   
Oh by the way……….look up how much the cities across the nation are paying out to the families of victimized citizens at the hands of a racist & bigoted police force.  That is all of our law abiding taxes going up because of a handful of assholes got issues.  When folks can't see that; I call it like it is ignorant motherf--kers.  Did not call you a racial slur---BUT YOU AN IGNORANT MOTHERf--kER!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 17, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
Bingo!    It is the exact same problem. The Hatians & The Mexicans come across the border seeking a better life. The only jobs they get are those that others don't want or won't do. Their job performance is stellar. But due to the will of those in power that are motivated by varous 'ism's' this piece of Dominican Legislation was passed. Unlike the U.S.; they are actually doing something other than maintaining a revolving door.
The Haitian government won't cry  too loud.  They still gotta explain to the world where $10 Billion is Earthquake Relief Funds went with not a goddamn thing to show for it.

It is normal for illegal immigrants to be forced to work jobs most others wont as they have no documentation for the government to take out taxes and account for them. That is the real problem.

I have to side with the governments views on this because I understand people wanting and needing to provide for their families by working whatever job they need to but going to another country illegally you simply cannot expect to get high paying jobs there. If the job you can get pays better than your home country I understand them coming. I can also understand if the host country wants to deport them as they cannot collect taxes from their wages. Its just the right of each country as they have their own laws and if you choose to go to said country you have to follow their laws or face the punishment.

The $10 billion US is gone. Check Felix Bautista and LF pockets. LOL. I bet they got a good chunk of it. Problem is so many corrupt government officials involved doing an audit will be difficult and will be even harder holding anyone accountable unless some country like the US is able to extradite them and try them for stealing the money. Good luck on that.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 17, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
The Black-Scholes formula is widely used for options pricing on both stocks and commodities but the volatility component of the formula often distorts the price.  Let's look at an example... Recently shares of TLT, which track yields on longer term bonds, traded at a multi-month low.  Put options at that time factored in substantial volatility in the underlying shares.  Premiums on those options have now dropped dramatically as shares have rebounded somewhat.  This holds true for all options durations, but it's especially true for those options that are closer to expiration.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 17, 2015, 06:13:53 PM
Real talk there are alotta funny style Mucha fers on here but blackknight I support he is the most sensible person on here
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: mchacal on June 17, 2015, 06:23:01 PM
This thread is not about the US being racist. That's a fact and we all know it. This thread is about Dominican Government being f--king Nazi. This people are not Haitians anymore and they work f--king hard in that country being exploited by "Dominicans"
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 17, 2015, 06:27:14 PM
Real talk there are alotta funny style Mucha fers on here but blackknight I support he is the most sensible person on here
LMAO....If being a non-racist means I'm a funny style Mucha fer, I guess that's what I am.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 17, 2015, 06:45:10 PM
Fellas, today's fed announcement was considered quite dovish.  Question: How many of you mo f--ka's noticed that shares of both GLD and GDX were down early in the trading session yet both finished the day squarely in the black?  Shares of UUP, which track the dollar index, finished the day lower.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Creative on June 17, 2015, 08:04:10 PM
On “Blacks Killing Blacks”, you damn right that is true.
 
One of the starkest, negative statistics of the African American community is a fact; a black man is 10 times more likely to be killed by “Homicide” at the hands of another black man than anybody else.  But note, those murders are occurring predominately in the inner cities across America nationwide.  Poor people with limited opportunities based on their circumstances that live in crime ridden urban areas.
 
What causes the uproar in the black community nationwide is when a white male civilian or white law enforcement officer kills an African American male (AAM)  Why?  Because the next category of “Who killed an Young African American Male”-----IS BY WHITE MEN!  And these killings are not occurring in the ghettos across America.  They are not occurring in the predominately black housing projects of the inner cities.  The killings are in fact occurring in the suburbs all across America by NRA card carrying whites that are armed to the teeth claiming they are so afraid of ------“Black Men”.  Why is that?

How did suddenly white folks get so afraid of Black men in the suburbs that are---sitting at Starbucks?  So afraid of a Black man selling lose cigarettes that it is punishable by death on the spot? And those they just had to kill that were at their wedding dinner.  So afraid that white women are in so fear of their lives of black children that are crossing the street and are in the crosswalk and they just had to run them over? How about those terrorist teenagers sitting in a car listening to music on the car radio?  How about those kids walking home from the corner store armed with Skittles and Ice Tea? Let us not fail to recognize the 12 yr old that just had to die in 4 seconds that was allegedly reaching for his gun. But wait, least we not forget the police officer video-taped killing a black man by shooting him in the back & then planting evidence trying to stage a crime scene. Armed with a bikini, that black girl is slammed to the ground by the police and then pulls his gun on yet again; unarmed teenagers. See ya in the unemployment line and ya damn right; she gonna get paid!
   
The “White Community” led by the FOX News & several syndicated radio Bigoted, Bat Shit, Bigmouths such as Sean Hannity, Bill O’ Reilly & Rush Limbaugh and others lead off with the same narrative which is that “the likes of Rev. Jessie Jackson & Rev. Al Sharpton and others are all a gang of Race Baiters and they have a Racist Agenda.   The riots and news coverage of a white killing a black was purposely turned into a polarizing media circus.  They clearly don’t say anything when a black man kills another black man so therefore they have a racist agenda.”

For all the ignorant people that just don’t get it; Rev Al & Rev Jackson and other predominate members of the African American community and now even to include myself, are chastised publicly for bringing the irritating & inconvenient facts & truths to light as follows;

1.   The AA male killed was unarmed and a child/teenager. (No Threat Whatsoever)

2.   The AA male killed was unarmed. (The White Officer has a Police Cruiser, A Radio, a Taser, Mace & a Nightstick) but the police always shoot to kill 1st in dealing Black men.  Whites are not shot at in the lowest of percentages of all police shootings.

3.   The AA male killed was not resisting arrest and/or in police custody and was murdered. (BLACK MEN DO NOT HANG/NOR SHOOT THEMSELVES.  NOR WHILE IN CUSTODY) A published fact that you will find in any Psychology 101 book on any college campus. Blacks don't kill themselves.  (But we will catch HIV for f--king without condoms!)

4.   There were clearly other options other than lethal/deadly force that could have been used to defuse the situation.

5.   The majority of the AA males that were killed had no police record whatsoever.  Parking tickets and Speeding Tickets aside?   

6.   Systemic patterns of racism blatantly exist in the community in which Whites are disproportionately governing and policing a larger Black population.  Blacks especially those with promising futures receive the harshest penalties for the most simplistic youthful crimes associated with their age group; even when the evidence CLEARLY shows their innocence.  (Jamison Winston, Allen Iverson, Randy Moss)

For those that are in awe with the United States Armed Forces, the most powerful military on the face of the earth; please read “All That We Can Be” and you will learn what we as a nation can (and did) overcome and achieve once we changed our military culture.  Change?  Didn’t somebody win two big elections off of a theme called “Hope & Change”.  The audacity of the idea!
   
Oh by the way……….look up how much the cities across the nation are paying out to the families of victimized citizens at the hands of a racist & bigoted police force.  That is all of our law abiding taxes going up because of a handful of assholes got issues.  When folks can't see that; I call it like it is ignorant motherf--kers.  Did not call you a racial slur---BUT YOU AN IGNORANT MOTHERf--kER!

This has absolutely nothing to do with Dominicans deporting Haitians. If the american government wanted to say something about it then they can because bottom line America is a Super Power and if the government wanted to they can intervene (we seen this happen before). Who is going to stop them? It's interesting to me how people are so naive. There are so many people from other countries who try so hard to get into america just to work their entire lives and then go back home to their native country to teach their kids and family to repeat the same process.There is a reason why it's super easy for Americans to travel to the islands but people born in the islands can't just go to America. Dominican republic relies heavily on foreigners to enrich their economy but then hate foreigners for coming. The thing is NOBODY has a choice in what race they are born and to deny people a fundamental right to live and seek opportunity is selfish and wrong.
Some Dominicans have a real hate towards Haitians that I didn't know until I started talking to them. Dominicans wouldn't like it if Americans started hating and deporting Dominicans out of American.... People would flip their shit.

I'm African American who lineage comes from Georgia. My great great grand mother was a slave until she was 11. My people have been through some shit in this country just so minorities can have opportunities here. And I'm well educated on economic, cultural and educational oppression. I know African history VERY WELL.

Bottom line it's wrong regardless of who is doing it. So stop with the "but Johnny's doing it" argument because you're supposed to be better than that.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 17, 2015, 08:16:25 PM
Despite stocks being with a few percentage points of all time highs, I still think that a covered call strategy on blue-chip type stocks is good way to generate income.  As always, it's helpful if we look at an example:

Take share of chip maker Intel (ticker: INTC).  They currently yield slightly more than 3%.  Not too shabby when you consider that the 10-year note is more than half a percentage point below that, but I digress.  Shares closed today at 31.95.  If you purchase shares in round lots (multiples of 100 shares) then you can sell call options with a strike price and get some decent income out of it.  I would suggest a call with a strike price of 33 with 60 to 90 days until expiration.  The ideal scenario would be as follows... Shares of INTC rally all the way to the strike price of 33.  Shares would then be called away from you.  You would profit from the difference between today's 31.95 per share and the 33 strike price.  You would also pick up the call premium and probably one dividend payment.  Not bad for a regular dude like me!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 17, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
If we're being fair, I should really mention that a more conservative way to play the covered call strategy would be select a strike price that is essentially at the money, 32 dollars per share in this case.  In his fantastic book on derivatives markets McDonald speaks in some detail about the "moneyness" of an option.  In this example we would be dealing with an at-the-money option, which would not allow for the same profit if share were to rally but it would provide substantial downside protection should shares decline to 31 or even 30.

For those who want to try to get the shares at a lower price then a cash-secured put option strategy wouldn't be a bad way to go.  At today's share price of 31.95 it would be a bit tough to employ with Intel unless shares declined to say 31.40 or 31.30.  If they don't get down to that level then there just isn't enough premium income to make this a viable income strategy.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 17, 2015, 08:51:35 PM
No it does not.  What this is---is a response to an ignorant idiot that attempted to call me racist for identifying facts in American history (both past and present) in regards to racism and human rights abuses. And specifically why the US can’t and probably won’t say a damn word in regards to the Dominican Republic’s action in regards to Haiti immigration.  Those that believe the US should act because “We are a super power” are also dancing in fantasy land and more than likely never served a day in the military.
 
The US government “could” do a lot of things to intervene (with military might no less) in a lot of countries all over the world.  However, the US government “won’t” do anything that would be considered interfering in another countries sovereign right to govern the constituents of that country and protect it’s own borders.  That would be blatantly stupid considering the US (as well as several other countries) have a problem protecting it’s own border.  The US/Mexican border is of a significant interest worldwide right now especially in the Americas. 

The US government, even with a Republican ruled House and Senate refuses to pass any legislation whatsoever on Immigration Reform despite these politicians alleging throughout their campaigns that “If you vote for me, when I get to Washington we will fix this problem are restore those lost American jobs.”  Yet another example of how ignorant jug heads known as the “American tax-paying voting public” don’t realize that the robust fruit & vegetable growers of American have a gang of lobbyist and campaign donors in Washington that ensure no legislation----- is ever passed.  Take away their illegal workforce and there goes your slave labor and that cuts too deeply into their profit margin. Got elected, went to Washington and come back in 5 to 6 yrs as a millionaire is the normal path now.  President Obama is not an idiot, he did something.  It was called an Executive Order.

What will happen in Haiti?   Take away their slave labor and what will happen?  Will those Dominicans go work in those sugar fields at Haitian slave wages that they were receiving?  Construction and road workers as well. That is what we call an "Unstable Market" and "Regional Instability" and exactly why foreign investment in the Dominican Republic, so risky and unwise. The "ism's" of that island gave it the nickname ;............"The Island of Hate" a.k.a., Haiti.  Hate for Dominicans and the Dominican hatred of Haitians.  Wrong? Sure is but yet again; piss and shit can't point at each other when they both are swimming in the same pool.

Oh by the way---------The Obama administration is well on track to have deported more illegals aliens than any other president in US history and yes, that includes Dominicans and Haitians. Take a look.  So "Johnny is doing it" is a truthful example of why "no action" is exactly what you can expect out of Washington. 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 17, 2015, 09:09:59 PM
As the continued search for yield goes on, an important question on many folks' minds is: "What about junk bonds?"

Exchange traded funds such as HYG and JNK make investing in junk bonds very easy.  But is it a good idea?  Are rising rates going to take way all of your yield and then some when you go to sell?  That is certainly a possibility if rates do rise.  But on the other hand the pundits on TV have been predicting rising rates for YEARS.  Personally I'd say to purchase shares opportunistically.  That way if they decline, then you just buy more.  I suppose that assumes that you're swinging a pretty big line.  Another idea is just to make regular purchases of a junk bond mutual fund, so that way if prices decline then subsequent purchases are made at lower prices and therefore higher yields.

What's your guys' take on the high-yield debt market at this point in time?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 17, 2015, 10:34:27 PM
Since the days of President Rafael Trujillo, up until today, the ruling class of the Dominican Republic has always had a white supremist adgenda. Everything since the Hatian genocide (Parsley Massacre/genocide) which occured in the Dominican Republic, practically every Dominican denies the African blood of their great grandmothers that flows through their viens. Some will deny this, but Dominicans will always define themselves as "spanish" (a language not a race) as oppose to saying they are Blacks who speak spanish. They cant say they are from Spain because people from Spain will vehimately say get he F--K out of and laugh at thier claim of being Spanish and the way they speak Spanish.     

The entire planet (including the Dominican Republic) has been infected with the evils of white supremacy which (if you realy understand it) is the greatest form of wickedness on the planet.   One Love !

Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: cvn77 on June 17, 2015, 11:37:33 PM
Since the days of President Rafael Trujillo, up until today, the ruling class of the Dominican Republic has always had a white supremist adgenda. Everything since the Hatian genocide (Parsley Massacre/genocide) which occured in the Dominican Republic, practically every Dominican denies the African blood of their great grandmothers that flows through their viens. Some will deny this, but Dominicans will always define themselves as "spanish" (a language not a race) as oppose to saying they are Blacks who speak spanish. They cant say they are from Spain because people from Spain will vehimately say get he F--K out of and laugh at thier claim of being Spanish and the way they speak Spanish.     

The entire planet (including the Dominican Republic) has been infected with the evils of white supremacy which (if you realy understand it) is the greatest form of wickedness on the planet.   One Love !

Don't these people know how they got to that island? Are they purposely miseducated about their african ancestry? This chica while I was down there said I wasn't African. I told her i was black at first and when she didn't understand I said Afro Americano. She said papi you not african. Now I know I wasn't born there but that's how I identify myself. This chica had Michelle Obama skin tone. I was confused and just stop asking questions cuz I knew something was off.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: torso8 on June 18, 2015, 02:39:21 AM
apparently .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czYS_LoSTDM
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 18, 2015, 04:55:17 AM
Fells, let's return to the topic of bonds for a moment.

What's your take on zero coupon bonds at this time?

Just like junk bonds, zeros are very easy to invest in via ETF's and mutual funds.  Vanguard's EDV is just one example.

It seems that now that yields on long bonds have come up a bit that purchasing zeros might be a good idea.  Some would even view this as portfolio insurance since zeros do exceptionally well in the event of deflation.

Are any of you guys considering purchasing zeros?  Do you already have them among your holdings?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 18, 2015, 06:33:43 AM
What the real question in regards to Commodities and Stock Prices is "How will this Stupidity effect the Pussy Price on Pedro".  Will the policia just start targeting the dark skinned chicas.  Hell this shit goes back to 1929.!!!  The majority of the people affected by this cannot prove their citizenship.  The Dominicans purposely designed their"Path to Citizenship" so they could not accomplish the task by understaffing all the agencies and setting ludacris standards. I am very sure that is going to affect several chicas on Pedro.

The chicas have always been harassed.  I know several light skinned chicas that I have gotten with over the years including Sade' that told me that their fathers was as black/dark as me.  Seems the Dominican chicas found out long ago that the Mandingo's were swinging some good dick. The majority of the chicas on Pedro are without jobs and many of the darker chicas bear the brunt of the discrimination just on skin color.  Light or Dark?

So once again, a roundup is coming.  Be strong and hold that line at $1500 or less.   
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: 007 on June 18, 2015, 07:15:21 AM
Don't these people know how they got to that island? Are they purposely miseducated about their african ancestry? This chica while I was down there said I wasn't African. I told her i was black at first and when she didn't understand I said Afro Americano. She said papi you not african. Now I know I wasn't born there but that's how I identify myself. This chica had Michelle Obama skin tone. I was confused and just stop asking questions cuz I knew something was off.

CVN77...knowing how they got here and embracing it as their reality is 2 different things. For many, they are completely dismissive of their true ancestry. Just think about the way African and/or "Black" in general takes on a negative connotation in many places in various societies. For the racists here, it's tenfold. Have you ever noticed how many of the chicas avoid the sun and daylight hours? They absolutely hate the idea of getting darker. They have equated fair skin to beauty. I've seen it firsthand. Even with chicas whose dad is as dark as I am, I see numerous indications that they would never want to look like him. I've been asked several times if I'm Haitian and then when they hear me speak they're like "oh okay, you're cool. You're American." I quickly distance myself from that ignorance.

Hatred is something I could never wrap my mind around. The fact that people so often must qualify and identify every person by race is sickening. Your skin color or your race doesn't mean shit to me. It tells me ZERO about you as a person, so I truly couldn't care less about anyone's race. I have love for people, ALL PEOPLE, because who you are is all that matters to me. What skin your maker wrapped you in is completely irrelevant to me. Unfortunately, we'll never see a world that embraces this perspective and it's sad.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: rowabbit on June 18, 2015, 07:31:41 AM
What the real question in regards to Commodities and Stock Prices is "How will this Stupidity effect the Pussy Price on Pedro".  Will the policia just start targeting the dark skinned chicas.  Hell this shit goes back to 1929.!!!  The majority of the people affected by this cannot prove their citizenship.  The Dominicans purposely designed their"Path to Citizenship" so they could not accomplish the task by understaffing all the agencies and setting ludacris standards. I am very sure that is going to affect several chicas on Pedro.

The chicas have always been harassed.  I know several light skinned chicas that I have gotten with over the years including Sade' that told me that their fathers was as black/dark as me.  Seems the Dominican chicas found out long ago that the Mandingo's were swinging some good dick. The majority of the chicas on Pedro are without jobs and many of the darker chicas bear the brunt of the discrimination just on skin color.  Light or Dark?

So once again, a roundup is coming.  Be strong and hold that line at $1500 or less.

Pay what you want for the pus. Go down there and have a good time.  If you are worried about looking "stupido" about how much you pay for pus or if you are some "principle" shit, remember dominican dudes are f--king ALL these chicks for FREE! Marinate on that. Just keeping it real.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: MrMoney007 on June 18, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
THe important thing is.
How will this affect our hobby.
Will the deport the haitian girls, making the number of girls less, and raising the price of play ?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: BrooklynZoo on June 18, 2015, 09:04:40 AM
THe important thing is.
How will this affect our hobby.
Will the deport the haitian girls, making the number of girls less, and raising the price of play ?

yes thats the important thing. lol
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: rowabbit on June 18, 2015, 09:23:04 AM
THe important thing is.
How will this affect our hobby.
Will the deport the haitian girls, making the number of girls less, and raising the price of play ?

yes thats the important thing. lol

That will be only a concern if you are f--king Haitian chicks.  Dominican chicks are not pricing their pus on the demand of Haitian chicks. Mostly the white european dudes will be the most affected by this.  Those old white dudes be smashing those Haitian chicks.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: JayMillz on June 18, 2015, 09:35:34 AM
Seems the Dominican chicas found out long ago that the Mandingo's were swinging some good dick. 

This is hilarious.  I think they found out Mandigos are swinging some big pesos compared to the broke guys in their hood that f--k them bareback for almost nothing.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: nickmirr on June 18, 2015, 09:59:26 AM

So once again, a roundup is coming.  Be strong and hold that line at $1500 or less.   

@blknight,

I was waiting because I know at some point this was coming..... lol.... You are tenacious.


Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 18, 2015, 10:23:26 AM
@blkknight Lmao you a funny dude and I be digging the Haitian chicks to
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: nickmirr on June 18, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
THe important thing is.
How will this affect our hobby.
Will the deport the haitian girls, making the number of girls less, and raising the price of play ?

yes thats the important thing. lol

That will be only a concern if you are f--king Haitian chicks.  Dominican chicks are not pricing their pus on the demand of Haitian chicks. Mostly the white european dudes will be the most affected by this.  Those old white dudes be smashing those Haitian chicks.

@Rowabbit
,

There it is... THE BEST RESPONSE to this utter nonsense...This bullshit will cease once the European's voice there disapproval, they don't consider the Dominicans black, they prefer the real African feature's that the Haitian girls have.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 18, 2015, 11:04:59 AM
This thread is not about the US being racist. That's a fact and we all know it. This thread is about Dominican Government being f--king Nazi. This people are not Haitians anymore and they work f--king hard in that country being exploited by "Dominicans"

I personally was not going to get involved here, but I do have to comment about this.  The DR government like all governments are corrupt.  I personally know people that work for the federal government in the DR.  On my last trip I met with the members of the DR government.  They are NOT Nazis, nor anything even close. 

The Nazis were run by a crazy tyrant who was an amazing leader.  Notice that I said he was CRAZY, but he was an amazing leader (this is the only compliment I can give the bastard).  Leaders can be both evil and good.  In this case Hitler was an amazing leader with a wicked, evil agenda that wanted to take out entire races and religions with no respect to humanity.

I'm sorry, but the Dominican government isn't even close to a Nazi.  I'm sure there are many racist politicians in the DR, but I guarantee you that there are racist politicians in every country on this planet. 

Keep in mind that there has been a deep hatred between both countries for many years.  Both countries have killed and murdered thousands of innocent people as has most countries that exist today including our beloved USA and our allies. 

Regarding race of my Dominican brothers...most Dominicans consider themselves of the Taino Indian decent.  They do not consider themselves Spanish.  In fact I do not have 1 Dominican friend that considers themselves to be Spanish even though they speak Spanish.  They all consider themselves to be Dominican and if you ask them about race, they state that they are ancestors of the Taino Indian. 

The Taino Indian part though is a little incorrect, but who am I to tell them that they are incorrect.  Most of the Taino Indians did not survive and died of disease or were killed by the Spanish.  I'm sure many have a small percentage of Taino Indian in their blood, but the fact is that most Dominicans have more African blood than any other race.  They are a mixed race of African, Spanish, and I'm sure many other races.

Enough of the history lesson my brothers.  Let's get back to the chicas!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 18, 2015, 11:15:08 AM

Hatred is something I could never wrap my mind around. The fact that people so often must qualify and identify every person by race is sickening. Your skin color or your race doesn't mean shit to me. It tells me ZERO about you as a person, so I truly couldn't care less about anyone's race. I have love for people, ALL PEOPLE, because who you are is all that matters to me. What skin your maker wrapped you in is completely irrelevant to me. Unfortunately, we'll never see a world that embraces this perspective and it's sad.

@007  Words well spoken bro!!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: biggs68 on June 18, 2015, 03:30:27 PM
https://youtu.be/oi3c0s7Fi80 dude breaks  it  down with facts
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 18, 2015, 05:22:12 PM
It will always amaze me how any man/women can look at themselves in the mirror and deny what they see. The influence of global white supremacy has conditioned many Africans all over the planet to deny the African blood that runs in their veins. I wish I would hear a Dominican say they are Taino Indian - When you look pitcures of Taino Indians, they look NOTHING like Dominicans. Malcolm X said its wrong to teach a man to hate another ....but its worse to teach a man to hate himself. He than asked ... who taught you how to hate your skin, to hate your hair, your lips? White supremacy is the greatest form of evil on the planet and is at the center of most of the earths problems including economics, education, entertainment, labor law, war, sex and religion.  I have no problem with any government asking those who entered their boarders to return to their country, but in the manner by which the Dominican government has dealt with its Hatian population ....... and it's Dominican population of African decent (dont forget there is a history) is telling.     
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 18, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
It will always amaze me how any man/women can look at themselves in the mirror and deny what they see. The influence of global white supremacy has conditioned many Africans all over the planet to deny the African blood that runs in their veins. I wish I would hear a Dominican say they are Taino Indian - When you look pitcures of Taino Indians, they look NOTHING like Dominicans. Malcolm X said its wrong to teach a man to hate another ....but its worse to teach a man to hate himself. He than asked ... who taught you how to hate your skin, to hate your hair, your lips? White supremacy is the greatest form of evil on the planet and is at the center of most of the earths problems including economics, education, entertainment, labor law, war, sex and religion.  I have no problem with any government asking those who entered their boarders to return to their country, but in the manner by which the Dominican government has dealt with its Hatian population ....... and it's Dominican population of African decent (dont forget there is a history) is telling.     
Yea....the white man is the whole problem. SMH
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: JayMillz on June 18, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
Yea....the white man is the whole problem. SMH

Still one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 18, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Yea....the white man is the whole problem. SMH

Still one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
That shit still funny.....just tellin' it like it is.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 18, 2015, 10:12:14 PM
So to those ignorant folks that want to call me a racist; well listen to what this Dominican official has to say about the situation. 


https://youtu.be/rl7fuvZYPTk  The Force was obviously with me here!

https://youtu.be/SGQq5ej_Jok  This one is longer.  Over 1 HR

Try to steer away from the truth by calling the messenger a racist?  That is a direct reflection of your character.  No doubt the Dominicans have a long history of racism directed at Haitians but now, they are going to use the missing $10 Billion as leverage and excuse to clean house. 

****  I predict further Market Instability.  The f--king Dominican's will not do the jobs at the same lower rate that the Haitian's were doing.  This will drive the labor cost up.  You will have higher prices for goods and services that the owners will pass onto consumers!  Sugar is the lifeblood of the Dominican Rum industry!  Sugar cheaply grown in the DR is sold to who?  The story will gain traction but it well come back and bite the Haitian Government in the ass. ********
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 18, 2015, 10:21:50 PM
Totally nuts.  Gold up better than a full percent in today's trading and silver can't rally one bit.

Be honest.  How many of you guys are long silver?  It's crazy.  I thought the bear market would have ended by now.  More to come later on this very important topic fellas.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 19, 2015, 12:47:06 AM
Although the topic here is "CRITICAL FOR HATIANS IN THE D.R." there are divertions for conversation about other subjucts. Start a page about stocks if you want to talk about stocks ...... i may even join you .... but here were talking about the plight of our Hatian brothers and siters in the Dominican Republic. And Banginhoes .... where in my wrightings did I say the white man is the whole problem ........ my comments were about those whites who are white supremist ....... John Brown was the greatest white man ever born and had the best solution for dealing with those whites who are white supremist. I just wish there were more white men like John Brown........... What a great man ......
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Indy_500 on June 19, 2015, 06:23:30 AM
this think will lead to atrocity, genocide are starting like that. DR people can't find why everything is going wrong so they search to accuse someone of all their misery.... It happen in Germany, it happen in Rwanda, it happen in a lot of country and ites always starting like that.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 19, 2015, 07:12:57 AM
Wait a second.  Now I'm totally confused.

bornjust777 - A few days ago I read Blacknight69's first post on this thread and ever since then I thought that the idea behind this thread was just to talk about any topic that came to mind.  So far we've done a good job.  We've touched police violence, white supremacy, and more, heck i even think i read comments about Al Sharpton.  Maybe it's because he's into mongering, I have no idea, I don't know anything about him.   I couldn't figure how a lot of this had anything to do with Dominican chicas, or related items like lodging, transportation, clubs, etc.  Some will say because it has to do with the Haitian chicas that guys want to bang, but let's be honest, we've strayed quite a ways even from that.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: rowabbit on June 19, 2015, 07:20:18 AM
Wait a second.  Now I'm totally confused.

bornjust777 - A few days ago I read Blacknight69's first post on this thread and ever since then I thought that the idea behind this thread was just to talk about any topic that came to mind.  So far we've done a good job.  We've touched police violence, white supremacy, and more, heck i even think i read comments about Al Sharpton.  Maybe it's because he's into mongering, I have no idea, I don't know anything about him.   I couldn't figure how a lot of this had anything to do with Dominican chicas, or related items like lodging, transportation, clubs, etc.  Some will say because it has to do with the Haitian chicas that guys want to bang, but let's be honest, we've strayed quite a ways even from that.

I agree. Let's get back to the real reason why we go down there. It is for Dominican pus. It is not because we love the Dominican Government.

I apologize, but the shit needed to be said.

Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 07:31:50 AM
Wait a second.  Now I'm totally confused.

bornjust777 - A few days ago I read Blacknight69's first post on this thread and ever since then I thought that the idea behind this thread was just to talk about any topic that came to mind.  So far we've done a good job.  We've touched police violence, white supremacy, and more, heck i even think i read comments about Al Sharpton.  Maybe it's because he's into mongering, I have no idea, I don't know anything about him.   I couldn't figure how a lot of this had anything to do with Dominican chicas, or related items like lodging, transportation, clubs, etc.  Some will say because it has to do with the Haitian chicas that guys want to bang, but let's be honest, we've strayed quite a ways even from that.
Dude's a racist.....just let him do what he do. Simple.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 19, 2015, 07:33:58 AM
rowabbit - Agreed my friend. All different people come together on the board to share stories and info.  I'm often pleasantly surprised that most of the guys on here are great dudes that encourage respect for Dominicans and the chicas, and they willingly share great info.  I hope it continues.

Un abrazo.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 19, 2015, 11:22:28 AM
"A few days ago I read Blacknigh69's first post on the thread and ever since I thought the idea behing THIS THREAD was to talk about ANY topic that came to mind" 

BANGINHOES - #1- No need for confuison .... the reason ALL threads have a SUBJECT title, is becasue the individual who creates the thread wants to generate a discussion around his TITLE. The title of this thread is "Critical for Hatians in DR" and the creator (ENYZSOSUA) opened the thread discussing that subject.

#2 - Chasing a conversation behind someone who didnt start the thread (BLACKNIGHT) and someone who decides to discuss something totally different from what the originator wanted to disciuss, is kinda disrespectful to the person who opened the thread for discussion. If anyone doesnt want to discuss this subject, than keep it moving ... in order to respect the author I do it all the time. I say this because Ive ALWAYS noticed EVERYTIME there is a discussion about the greatest form of evil on the planet i.e. white supremacy, some individuals want to talk about everything but that. The Dominican Republic like the U.S has a documented history of being anti Afro Dominican & Afro Hatian which I believe is playing a role in this current governmental policy.  And that point is not only true, but its also on subject LOL   
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 19, 2015, 02:05:08 PM
Well actually we still on target. The conversation is still flowing.  Here is a recap:

-The Haitians are about to be deported out of the DR.
-The US should intervene.
-Hell no the US should not and here is why not--- because Johnny is doing it.
-You have a racist agenda
-I'm not a racist, your ignorant and your momma is a an ignorant bitch
-Here are the facts from recent headlines why people who speak the truth about white supremacy are accused of having a racist agenda
-Videos are posted from reporters on the ground in Haiti which supported BLACKNIGHT'S position of "No US involvement & Haiti needs to find that f--king money to the tune of $10 Billion
- Hold the No f--k Line (NFL) at $1500 cause these bitches will try to raise prices during this crisis.
-More videos are posted of the Dominican hatred of themselves and their heritage.

What ya gotta do is do not give those folks any validity that are trying to derail the conversation; and ignore them as I and others have.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: maxvonrain on June 19, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
Well actually we still on target. The conversation is still flowing.  Here is a recap:

-The Haitians are about to be deported out of the DR.
-The US should intervene.
-Hell no the US should not and here is why not--- because Johnny is doing it.
-You have a racist agenda
-I'm not a racist, your ignorant and your momma is a an ignorant bitch
-Here are the facts from recent headlines why people who speak the truth about white supremacy are accused of having a racist agenda
-Videos are posted from reporters on the ground in Haiti which supported BLACKNIGHT'S position of "No US involvement & Haiti needs to find that f--king money to the tune of $10 Billion
- Hold the No f--k Line (NFL) at $1500 cause these bitches will try to raise prices during this crisis.
-More videos are posted of the Dominican hatred of themselves and their heritage.

What ya gotta do is do not give those folks any validity that are trying to derail the conversation; and ignore them as I and others have.
great f'in recap!  I damn near spit my drink out at this: 

-You have a racist agenda
-I'm not a racist, your ignorant and your momma is a an ignorant bitch
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 19, 2015, 02:43:55 PM
Y'all Gotta Keep Up!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: maxvonrain on June 19, 2015, 02:46:19 PM
Don't these people know how they got to that island? Are they purposely miseducated about their african ancestry? This chica while I was down there said I wasn't African. I told her i was black at first and when she didn't understand I said Afro Americano. She said papi you not african. Now I know I wasn't born there but that's how I identify myself. This chica had Michelle Obama skin tone. I was confused and just stop asking questions cuz I knew something was off.

CVN77...knowing how they got here and embracing it as their reality is 2 different things. For many, they are completely dismissive of their true ancestry. Just think about the way African and/or "Black" in general takes on a negative connotation in many places in various societies. For the racists here, it's tenfold. Have you ever noticed how many of the chicas avoid the sun and daylight hours? They absolutely hate the idea of getting darker. They have equated fair skin to beauty. I've seen it firsthand. Even with chicas whose dad is as dark as I am, I see numerous indications that they would never want to look like him. I've been asked several times if I'm Haitian and then when they hear me speak they're like "oh okay, you're cool. You're American." I quickly distance myself from that ignorance.

Hatred is something I could never wrap my mind around. The fact that people so often must qualify and identify every person by race is sickening. Your skin color or your race doesn't mean shit to me. It tells me ZERO about you as a person, so I truly couldn't care less about anyone's race. I have love for people, ALL PEOPLE, because who you are is all that matters to me. What skin your maker wrapped you in is completely irrelevant to me. Unfortunately, we'll never see a world that embraces this perspective and it's sad.

Well said CTL!  Couldn't agree more. People are just people.  I was lucky to grow up with people of all races and many, many different nationalities.  I wish more in our country grew up that way b/c too many grow up in a bubble where they are exposed to very little and develop all these stereotypes which are not based in reality or experience.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 19, 2015, 03:00:27 PM
Well actually we still on target. The conversation is still flowing.  Here is a recap:

-The Haitians are about to be deported out of the DR.
-The US should intervene.
-Hell no the US should not and here is why not--- because Johnny is doing it.
-You have a racist agenda
-I'm not a racist, your ignorant and your momma is a an ignorant bitch
-Here are the facts from recent headlines why people who speak the truth about white supremacy are accused of having a racist agenda
-Videos are posted from reporters on the ground in Haiti which supported BLACKNIGHT'S position of "No US involvement & Haiti needs to find that f--king money to the tune of $10 Billion
- Hold the No f--k Line (NFL) at $1500 cause these bitches will try to raise prices during this crisis.
-More videos are posted of the Dominican hatred of themselves and their heritage.

What ya gotta do is do not give those folks any validity that are trying to derail the conversation; and ignore them as I and others have.

Can't disagree with that
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 19, 2015, 06:20:54 PM
bornjust777 – I appreciate your response.  I still have a hard time seeing how discussing white supremacy fits in on a forum about Dominican women and all that goes with them (travel, lodging, language, etc.).  To me it seems just as out of place as discussing stock options pricing.  Perhaps we agree to disagree on that point.  I’m sure you’re a good dude nonetheless.

Banginhoes – In response to your message earlier... I don’t know if Blacknight69 is racist or not.  I don't know him in person.  In some of his posts he brings some great perspective to the board.  In others posts, however, he reveals that he has some serious issues to deal with.  Imagine what it’s like to be him... He spends every minute of every day convincing himself that he’s an oppressed victim.  And this is a guy that gets to go on vacation several times a year and bang hot women in a foreign country.  I feel bad for him because he’s obviously very angry about some issues.  Case in point is him swearing at someone else on the board and talking trash about the guy’s mom.  Totally ridiculous and pointless.  Many of the issues he brings up have absolutely nothing to do with Dominican women or mongering or anything related to that.

When I say I feel bad for him I don’t mean it in a mean-spirited way, on the contrary, I mean it in a compassionate way.  I guess he has pent-up anger about race issues.  It’s just really, really strange that he uses a mongering website as a sounding board to let out his rage.

The guy has some toadies here on the board that seem to like him.  Maybe he is just “pointing out the facts”.  But if so I need to buy Blacknight69 an “internet compass” for his birthday.  I want help orient him.  I want to show him that there are other forums on the internet for discussing these topics that he is so obsessed with and enraged about.

I wonder if he’s now going to attack me with the same invective that he used with PMIDump.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 07:06:50 PM
bornjust777 – I appreciate your response.  I still have a hard time seeing how discussing white supremacy fits in on a forum about Dominican women and all that goes with them (travel, lodging, language, etc.).  To me it seems just as out of place as discussing stock options pricing.  Perhaps we agree to disagree on that point.  I’m sure you’re a good dude nonetheless.

Banginhoes – In response to your message earlier... I don’t know if Blacknight69 is racist or not.  I don't know him in person.  In some of his posts he brings some great perspective to the board.  In others posts, however, he reveals that he has some serious issues to deal with.  Imagine what it’s like to be him... He spends every minute of every day convincing himself that he’s an oppressed victim.  And this is a guy that gets to go on vacation several times a year and bang hot women in a foreign country.  I feel bad for him because he’s obviously very angry about some issues.  Case in point is him swearing at someone else on the board and talking trash about the guy’s mom.  Totally ridiculous and pointless.  Many of the issues he brings up have absolutely nothing to do with Dominican women or mongering or anything related to that.

When I say I feel bad for him I don’t mean it in a mean-spirited way, on the contrary, I mean it in a compassionate way.  I guess he has pent-up anger about race issues.  It’s just really, really strange that he uses a mongering website as a sounding board to let out his rage.

The guy has some toadies here on the board that seem to like him.  Maybe he is just “pointing out the facts”.  But if so I need to buy Blacknight69 an “internet compass” for his birthday.  I want help orient him.  I want to show him that there are other forums on the internet for discussing these topics that he is so obsessed with and enraged about.

I wonder if he’s now going to attack me with the same invective that he used with PMIDump.
Agree 100. But as you said, he'll have his backers....it's the world we live in today. This is a f--kin' mongering board and we gotta hear all this shit? Take this shit to another board.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Vanilla88 on June 19, 2015, 07:17:52 PM
Amen brother.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 19, 2015, 07:28:13 PM
Yo, in keeping with the title of this thread: "Critical For Haitians in DR"

I came across this today.  Note:  I have not seen any international news on TV that is covering the story.  In the US, the big story is the killings in Charleston S.C. and that has now led to discussions of them still flying that Confederate flag on the grounds of the capitol in Columbia.

Day 2 of the Situation in Haiti

https://youtu.be/vOIALb2tt6A
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 19, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
Also came across this that was published for HBO.  It sheds a little light on where the f--k $10 Billion went. 

(NO!  I did not just pull that figure out my ass)

https://youtu.be/vOIALb2tt6A

Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 07:59:47 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 19, 2015, 08:49:13 PM
In other news a 21 year old white boy named Dylann Roof murdered 9 saints of God in a South Carolina AME Church. The world awaits the day when his young life is sucked out of his body by the state and his corps is dumped into a garbage pit. On that glories day I will throw the biggest party in D.R. and laugh my a-- off.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 19, 2015, 09:06:02 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 09:42:02 PM
In other news a 21 year old white boy named Dylann Roof murdered 9 saints of God in a South Carolina AME Church. The world awaits the day when his young life is sucked out of his body by the state and his corps is dumped into a garbage pit. On that glories day I will throw the biggest party in D.R. and laugh my a-- off.
He should be put to death instantly.....no doubt about it. This is why I had a party today when I heard that the guy who killed the police officer was shot dead in the street. Justice.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 09:50:52 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Not sure why your so upset when I react to other people's racist remarks. I'm confused here sir. As you read, you see that I only commented when other racist remarks were made. I'm not weaving to anyone....I'm just standing up for my race as a good citizen....period. The people who died in that church were good people and that shouldn't happen to anyone of any race. Color is irrelevant to me. Either you good people, or you aren't. Period. I'll be making my 7th trip soon and will be bringing a 1st timer with me and couldn't be more excited for him. Oh yea....he's a black man and I like him because he's good people. Hope that answered what you were lookin' for.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 19, 2015, 10:13:34 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Not sure why your so upset when I react to other people's racist remarks. I'm confused here sir. As you read, you see that I only commented when other racist remarks were made. I'm not weaving to anyone....I'm just standing up for my race as a good citizen....period. The people who died in that church were good people and that shouldn't happen to anyone of any race. Color is irrelevant to me. Either you good people, or you aren't. Period. I'll be making my 7th trip soon and will be bringing a 1st timer with me and couldn't be more excited for him. Oh yea....he's a black man and I like him because he's good people. Hope that answered what you were lookin' for.

Not sure how you figured I was upset Mr 'I stand up for my race on a forum while I claim am just here for mongering' lol I am just calling it as I see it Sir that you don't need to hide behind other people post or to sneak in to say what's on ya mind...just go for it unprovoked sometimes lol. I have seen ya kind before Sir, mr 'either you are good or bad' but as they say, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...what would be kosher for some good people too is to condemn the injustice when they see it (racist guy goes into church to kill black people) rather than quickly pointing to what a single member of the victim's race/community did (oh see see a black man killed a cop in Cincinnati) and then claim oh I am just for peace and justice haha And this isn't ya first rodeo with shit like this on this forum, it subliminally jumps out every now and then on threads what kind of man you are...mr 'I stand up for my race as a good citizen' perhaps you should stand up for all race as an upstanding citizen and talk like you really do Sir while missing us all with some BS!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 10:16:50 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Not sure why your so upset when I react to other people's racist remarks. I'm confused here sir. As you read, you see that I only commented when other racist remarks were made. I'm not weaving to anyone....I'm just standing up for my race as a good citizen....period. The people who died in that church were good people and that shouldn't happen to anyone of any race. Color is irrelevant to me. Either you good people, or you aren't. Period. I'll be making my 7th trip soon and will be bringing a 1st timer with me and couldn't be more excited for him. Oh yea....he's a black man and I like him because he's good people. Hope that answered what you were lookin' for.

Not sure how you figured I was upset Mr 'I stand up for my race on a forum while I claim am just here for mongering' lol I am just calling it as I see it Sir that you don't need to hide behind other people post or to sneak in to say what's on ya mind...just go for it unprovoked sometimes lol. I have seen ya kind before Sir, mr 'either you are good or bad' but as they say, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...what would be kosher for some good people too is to condemn the injustice when they see it (racist guy goes into church to kill black people) rather than quickly pointing to what a single member of the victim's race/community did (oh see see a black man killed a cop in Cincinnati) and then claim oh I am just for peace and justice haha And this isn't ya first rodeo with shit like this on this forum, it subliminally jumps out every now and then on threads what kind of man you are...mr 'I stand up for my race as a good citizen' perhaps you should stand up for all race as an upstanding citizen and talk like you really do Sir while missing us all with some BS!!
Huh?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 19, 2015, 10:40:41 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Not sure why your so upset when I react to other people's racist remarks. I'm confused here sir. As you read, you see that I only commented when other racist remarks were made. I'm not weaving to anyone....I'm just standing up for my race as a good citizen....period. The people who died in that church were good people and that shouldn't happen to anyone of any race. Color is irrelevant to me. Either you good people, or you aren't. Period. I'll be making my 7th trip soon and will be bringing a 1st timer with me and couldn't be more excited for him. Oh yea....he's a black man and I like him because he's good people. Hope that answered what you were lookin' for.

Not sure how you figured I was upset Mr 'I stand up for my race on a forum while I claim am just here for mongering' lol I am just calling it as I see it Sir that you don't need to hide behind other people post or to sneak in to say what's on ya mind...just go for it unprovoked sometimes lol. I have seen ya kind before Sir, mr 'either you are good or bad' but as they say, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...what would be kosher for some good people too is to condemn the injustice when they see it (racist guy goes into church to kill black people) rather than quickly pointing to what a single member of the victim's race/community did (oh see see a black man killed a cop in Cincinnati) and then claim oh I am just for peace and justice haha And this isn't ya first rodeo with shit like this on this forum, it subliminally jumps out every now and then on threads what kind of man you are...mr 'I stand up for my race as a good citizen' perhaps you should stand up for all race as an upstanding citizen and talk like you really do Sir while missing us all with some BS!!
Huh?

Exactly my point!!
.btw take one for the road as an advise, in 2015 when discussing racial topics, stay away from the "I have a black friend or I know a black guy that I like" cards...totally ridiculous in this day and age and means nothing, you bringing a black guy for his 1st visit to Sosua means nothing and says nothing about u...the way you worded your sentence there actually made it seems like u are bringing a dog or something (so distance...oh he is a black guy and I like him..as opposed to what, a dog lol), Duh! you ought to like whoever you are bringing with you. Anyways be an upstanding guy my man, and fight for justice for all race and not just yours!!:)
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 10:46:48 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Not sure why your so upset when I react to other people's racist remarks. I'm confused here sir. As you read, you see that I only commented when other racist remarks were made. I'm not weaving to anyone....I'm just standing up for my race as a good citizen....period. The people who died in that church were good people and that shouldn't happen to anyone of any race. Color is irrelevant to me. Either you good people, or you aren't. Period. I'll be making my 7th trip soon and will be bringing a 1st timer with me and couldn't be more excited for him. Oh yea....he's a black man and I like him because he's good people. Hope that answered what you were lookin' for.

Not sure how you figured I was upset Mr 'I stand up for my race on a forum while I claim am just here for mongering' lol I am just calling it as I see it Sir that you don't need to hide behind other people post or to sneak in to say what's on ya mind...just go for it unprovoked sometimes lol. I have seen ya kind before Sir, mr 'either you are good or bad' but as they say, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...what would be kosher for some good people too is to condemn the injustice when they see it (racist guy goes into church to kill black people) rather than quickly pointing to what a single member of the victim's race/community did (oh see see a black man killed a cop in Cincinnati) and then claim oh I am just for peace and justice haha And this isn't ya first rodeo with shit like this on this forum, it subliminally jumps out every now and then on threads what kind of man you are...mr 'I stand up for my race as a good citizen' perhaps you should stand up for all race as an upstanding citizen and talk like you really do Sir while missing us all with some BS!!
Huh?

Exactly my point!!
.btw take one for the road as an advise, in 2015 when discussing racial topics, stay away from the "I have a black friend or I know a black guy that I like" cards...totally ridiculous in this day and age and means nothing, you bringing a black guy for his 1st visit to Sosua means nothing and says nothing about u...the way you worded your sentence there actually made it seems like u are bringing a dog or something (so distance...oh he is a black guy and I like him..as opposed to what, a dog lol), Duh! you ought to like whoever you are bringing with you. Anyways be an upstanding guy my man, and fight for justice for all race and not just yours!!:)
So, what is there that I could say that would make you believe I'm not racist? Nothing....right? So, with your 2015 advice out the window, there's gonna be nothing said to change your mind....right? Now....if I don't like black people, WHY THE f--k WOULD I BRING HIM WITH ME? As for your comment about me sounding like I'm bringing a dog......you stated that I said "oh he is a black guy and I like him"......right? Wrong. I said " he's a black man and he's good people". That means I like to be around good people. Oh yea, when you tell me to fight for justice for all races, I haven't heard you tell that to any other members on this board. Cheers.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 19, 2015, 11:15:01 PM
In other news, a police officer was gunned down in Cincinnati by a black man who was on parole. He was responding to a 911 call at a house and was killed on the porch. God bless our "good" officers who risk their lives every day to stop criminals.

LOL man, ya contribution in the thread started with how African American are killing each other in America as a response to whoever you are trying to criticize (I am guessing this is in response to Blacknight69)...
                   then u went on with the sarcastic 'yeah the white man is the problem' then you hid weave and bop and hid behind another man's rebuttal of blacknight69 post while insisting that this is a monger forum and about dominican chicks, you weave and bop again until you decided to higlight another hidden gem of a news of how a police officer (perhaps a good cop in your worldly opinion) was gunned down by a black man in Cincinnati in response to the latest breaking news about the racist guy that killed 9 black people in a Church in South Carolina.....so much for keeping it about the hoes in DR! Why not remove the mask my man and tell us how u really feel because you ain fooling no one with how and where you stand with contemporary issues like this, Mr Banging hoes while keeping check and balances on atrocities committed by the blacks. Reveal yourself and stop weaving and bopping!!

You know them by their words, a lot of points on this thread overall....
Not sure why your so upset when I react to other people's racist remarks. I'm confused here sir. As you read, you see that I only commented when other racist remarks were made. I'm not weaving to anyone....I'm just standing up for my race as a good citizen....period. The people who died in that church were good people and that shouldn't happen to anyone of any race. Color is irrelevant to me. Either you good people, or you aren't. Period. I'll be making my 7th trip soon and will be bringing a 1st timer with me and couldn't be more excited for him. Oh yea....he's a black man and I like him because he's good people. Hope that answered what you were lookin' for.

Not sure how you figured I was upset Mr 'I stand up for my race on a forum while I claim am just here for mongering' lol I am just calling it as I see it Sir that you don't need to hide behind other people post or to sneak in to say what's on ya mind...just go for it unprovoked sometimes lol. I have seen ya kind before Sir, mr 'either you are good or bad' but as they say, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...what would be kosher for some good people too is to condemn the injustice when they see it (racist guy goes into church to kill black people) rather than quickly pointing to what a single member of the victim's race/community did (oh see see a black man killed a cop in Cincinnati) and then claim oh I am just for peace and justice haha And this isn't ya first rodeo with shit like this on this forum, it subliminally jumps out every now and then on threads what kind of man you are...mr 'I stand up for my race as a good citizen' perhaps you should stand up for all race as an upstanding citizen and talk like you really do Sir while missing us all with some BS!!
Huh?

Exactly my point!!
.btw take one for the road as an advise, in 2015 when discussing racial topics, stay away from the "I have a black friend or I know a black guy that I like" cards...totally ridiculous in this day and age and means nothing, you bringing a black guy for his 1st visit to Sosua means nothing and says nothing about u...the way you worded your sentence there actually made it seems like u are bringing a dog or something (so distance...oh he is a black guy and I like him..as opposed to what, a dog lol), Duh! you ought to like whoever you are bringing with you. Anyways be an upstanding guy my man, and fight for justice for all race and not just yours!!:)
Duh? Are you 12 years old my man? I ain't gotta explain shit to you my man. Now, go read a book and keep it movin'. Peace be with you and yours.

Oh mr banging hoes is upset now lol your dumb racially questionable ass need not explain shit from the get go because those with eyes can see thru you. All of a sudden I need to go read haha Mr I am bringing a black guy that I like with me to Sosua and he is good too haha...disconnected privileged out of touch guy, just trying to give you the big picture man..you keep it moving because I am gonna be monitoring you from now on Mr good citizen! LOL
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: cwedgester on June 19, 2015, 11:33:59 PM
Disclaimer: just my two cents.........

The DominicanRepublic has had a long history of mistreating and oppression of hatians, so why now is it such a BIG uproar and mongers wanting to "BOYCOTT". If that was the case, they should have been doing it. It's f--ked up, yes , but what is boycotting going to do.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 19, 2015, 11:43:38 PM
Upset? Nah. There's all kinda stupid people like you on the Internet. Privileged? Nah....I live in the hood my man.....and you can monitor me all you want as long as you monitor everyone else.  You can make jokes all you want about me bringing my boy with me...it almost sounds like you mad I'm bringin' him..LOL
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 20, 2015, 03:36:59 AM
Upset? Nah. There's all kinda stupid people like you on the Internet. Privileged? Nah....I live in the hood my man.....and you can monitor me all you want as long as you monitor everyone else.  You can make jokes all you want about me bringing my boy with me...it almost sounds like you mad I'm bringin' him..LOL

First u have a black friend u want to bring with u to sosua, now u live in the hood..where, inglewood, Cali? haha

 I won't be surprised if u live under the hood quite alright, no pun there. Btw, You just gave me the peace out but you couldn't resist, Yes I will call ya disguised 'I fight for my race' bigot ass out when I see it. And No, stop insisting it sounds like I am mad, there is no sound here and ya dumb ass is the one getting all riled up for being ruffled up by a 12 yr old guy...afterall u ain got to tell me shit. Stick to mongering and being an upstanding citizen and all will be well ok...alright man, let me give u the last word. But don't come back telling me ya ex is a black dime because then am going to really lose it LOL
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 20, 2015, 07:12:12 AM
Smh no this is just getting silly
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Oddz313 on June 20, 2015, 08:34:27 AM
Always a neat trick when someone calls you a racist because its a claim that you can't really disprove. You could be Rachel Dolezal and you would not be able to disprove the claim. Of course the story about the cop being killed was a dumb route to go, especially considering the news of the week.

As far as the Dominican's not identifying with being black, well that's more of an American term anyways. Most Latin American countries don't have the same racial classification system that we do. In Latin America it is easy to identify as Latin. In Brazil they racially ID people all the way down to their Hair and Eye colors. But this is what happens when you turn a thread about a foreign country into something else.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 20, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
Knowledge to the wise .......... we already know what were dealing with ...... I think all of us have smelt skunks before. "Im just standing up for my race like a good citizen" LOL,  LOL ......  What racist comments are you responding too and can you give a direct quote and the time it was posted Because only those who support and are white supremist have been criticized. And the reason why white supremacy continues to reign supreme around the globe (including the USA & the D.R. ) is that those whites who CLAIM they are not white supremist, refuse to repudiate and FIGHT against their neighbors,friends, family members, politicians,clergy, employers etc. who are. Now if thats what your claimming (to be a white supremist)  fine .... In the police shooting the incidnet and race didnt have to be mentioned because not only was it off subject, but race didnt play a role. (but I understand why and how you brought it up because Ive observed you for four hundred years) In the church shooting the race was mentioned because race did play a role just as it's playing a role in the deportation of Hatians.

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Banginhoes on June 20, 2015, 11:14:32 AM
Upset? Nah. There's all kinda stupid people like you on the Internet. Privileged? Nah....I live in the hood my man.....and you can monitor me all you want as long as you monitor everyone else.  You can make jokes all you want about me bringing my boy with me...it almost sounds like you mad I'm bringin' him..LOL

First u have a black friend u want to bring with u to sosua, now u live in the hood..where, inglewood, Cali? haha

 I won't be surprised if u live under the hood quite alright, no pun there. Btw, You just gave me the peace out but you couldn't resist, Yes I will call ya disguised 'I fight for my race' bigot ass out when I see it. And No, stop insisting it sounds like I am mad, there is no sound here and ya dumb ass is the one getting all riled up for being ruffled up by a 12 yr old guy...afterall u ain got to tell me shit. Stick to mongering and being an upstanding citizen and all will be well ok...alright man, let me give u the last word. But don't come back telling me ya ex is a black dime because then am going to really lose it LOL
Nah...my ex ain't black, but why the f--k does your dumb, cricket-phone-usin'-ass think I travel to DR for? For BLACK women you dumb-f--k. That's why. I hate blacks so much that I travel to f--k them and bring friends who are black with me....LOL  I work with 13 people and nine are of color....LOL  You gettin' dumber with every post my man....LOL  And nah...I ain't from Cali. Bigot?  LOL  Stick to monitoring people and stop postin'.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 20, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Upset? Nah. There's all kinda stupid people like you on the Internet. Privileged? Nah....I live in the hood my man.....and you can monitor me all you want as long as you monitor everyone else.  You can make jokes all you want about me bringing my boy with me...it almost sounds like you mad I'm bringin' him..LOL

First u have a black friend u want to bring with u to sosua, now u live in the hood..where, inglewood, Cali? haha

 I won't be surprised if u live under the hood quite alright, no pun there. Btw, You just gave me the peace out but you couldn't resist, Yes I will call ya disguised 'I fight for my race' bigot ass out when I see it. And No, stop insisting it sounds like I am mad, there is no sound here and ya dumb ass is the one getting all riled up for being ruffled up by a 12 yr old guy...afterall u ain got to tell me shit. Stick to mongering and being an upstanding citizen and all will be well ok...alright man, let me give u the last word. But don't come back telling me ya ex is a black dime because then am going to really lose it LOL
Nah...my ex ain't black, but why the f--k does your dumb, cricket-phone-usin'-ass think I travel to DR for? For BLACK women you dumb-f--k. That's why. I hate blacks so much that I travel to f--k them and bring friends who are black with me....LOL  I work with 13 people and nine are of color....LOL  You gettin' dumber with every post my man....LOL  And nah...I ain't from Cali. Bigot?  LOL  Stick to monitoring people and stop postin'.

I can do this till the end my man, and it seems we getting off topic here. While some may not see it, some will call it out...it's f--kers like you that make it tough for the majority. Let's get back on track...facts here
1, someone mentioned a breaking news about a racist guy (who perhaps was standing for his race) who went to a Church to kill 9 blacks and your dumb ass was quick to bring up a black guy that killed a cop in Cincinnati. Why? Checks and balance from your dumb out of touch ass?

2, when further discussing this topic, you said I should realize that you are only responding to those others racist remarks and standing up for ya race. WhAt racist remarks? And what the f--k are u really standing or fighting for...the racist f--ker that went into the Church said something similar too that he was fighting for his race. You good as u are my man, the power and privilege you already have, so what the f--k are you really fighting for? Scared of equality?

3, most just want equality, peace and justice not that your ya schmuck self should be quick to point the other way highlighting what the blacks are doing (shit from you like a, african Americans are killing each other too, b, sarcastic stuff like ohh yeah it's always the whites fault, c, ohh how do we get at racist blacks too, d, see a black just killed a cop also etc) when they talk about an injustice system.

4, ya mentality and word usage is even laughable hahah, u work with 13 people and 9 are OF COLOR? Really...who still uses COLOR? Lol the word 'minorities' should be apropos but am not judging though lol. And the fact that you work with some Minorities means what really? That u couldn't be the guy you are afraid you are? Stuff like " I am bringing a black guy with me that I like to Sosua" or " I go to Sosua to f--k black chicks so I can't be anything but a tolerant guy hahah" that you can't be heavily prejudiced bc u know a black guy and u f--k black hoes? Lol who the f--k thinks like that, man?

5, I have actually been on this board for a good number of years and hardly ever got involved wt stuff or issues like this, but if we have to be serious with race relations and discussion then we gotto be ready to have some of this tough discussion...and No I am not calling you a racist but I also don't believe that you talk like an enlightened dude who's heart is in the right place as evident by many of ya posts in this forum that touches on race stuff. You start confusing people when u go on about standing or fighting for ya race...fight for human race, equality, peace and justice. Be empathetic, sensitive to other peoples plight...

6, The thread is about the 'cleansing' of DR (pretty much doing away with Haitians) and what turned this thrEad up was Blacknight69 simply highlighting that it would be hypocritical for AMERICA to lead the way of solving this issue when there is so much America can do back home with all the race relations and injustices in its own country...a case of a man should take the log of wood out of his eyes before attempting to take a speck out of someone else's eyes. Just some logical conversational stuff but there are more angles to this whole issue...anyways, Banginhoes take it easy in cussing me out man, all love here!! LOL
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: JayMillz on June 20, 2015, 01:21:28 PM
All bullshit aside, a boycott of Sosua would show the world that n----z can think with more than just their dicks.

To sum shit up, n----z are basically going backwards.  If you don't believe me consider this.  n----z are bringing back Jherri Curls?



Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 20, 2015, 01:58:00 PM
LOL a lot of things should have got boycotted and need to get boycotted in America but I ain't seen anybody organize shit I have a feeling if we all stopped coming out dudes like Cuba Dave would populate the place
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 20, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
What racist remarks?..............."and what turned this thread up was Blacknight69 simply highlighting that it would be hypocritical for AMERICA to lead the way of solving this issue when there is so much America can do back home with all the race relations and injustices in its own country..."


1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a white guy.  Was that your true intent all along? 
 
2. Even if they perceive him to be cool, just banging ho's like everybody else.  Even if he shows up with a black guy as an "alleged friend", your true agenda was put in writing and posted.  "Why is that?  How could that be?  They don't know who I am!"

3. Refer back to bullet #1:The great thing about written opinions is they can be captured verbatim and referred back to for absolutely accuracy.

Again, the Dominicans have a long history of hate of the Haitians and those that have dark skin and African features.  They come up with so many angles and excuses to deny their ancestry.  They also claim that the poor Haitians are such a drain on their resources (jobs) as yet another excuse; yet they cannot deny that the Haitians work in slave conditions for what amounts to slave wages.  However, now the Dominicans have a $10 Billion dollar excuse and the world is watching to see what happens next.  That's right, the entire planet donated to Haiti!

"In a world filled with darkness, we are all the same. Don't let your eyes deceive you."

Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Oddz313 on June 20, 2015, 02:46:33 PM
The USA won't get to highly involved if it does not make dollars or cents (and sense) just like we never got involved in Rawanda or Darfur. Sugar production coming to a halt would probably only be a financial blip on the radar. It has involve oil, the banks or precious minerals. Or someone has to really piss off someone with the power.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: mp3 on June 20, 2015, 03:19:32 PM
Alot of American vacation and have property in the DR,,not going to faze them,,im sure the flights are still full
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 20, 2015, 03:45:42 PM
Guess how much Sugar the US imports from the Dominican Republic due to a trade agreement?

200,000 Tons which equals 400,000,000 Pounds of Sugar!

What is really funky is the fact that within the Dominican Rum Industry spearheaded by (Barceló, Brugal & Bermudez) the majority of what is produced (70%) is  exported.  So again, if the Dominicans refuse to work those fields, then who gonna do it?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 20, 2015, 04:43:30 PM
https://youtu.be/hiGSN-gzn8M
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 20, 2015, 06:15:54 PM
What racist remarks?..............."and what turned this thread up was Blacknight69 simply highlighting that it would be hypocritical for AMERICA to lead the way of solving this issue when there is so much America can do back home with all the race relations and injustices in its own country..."


1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a white guy.  Was that your true intent all along? 
 
2. Even if they perceive him to be cool, just banging ho's like everybody else.  Even if he shows up with a black guy as an "alleged friend", your true agenda was put in writing and posted.  "Why is that?  How could that be?  They don't know who I am!"

3. Refer back to bullet #1:The great thing about written opinions is they can be captured verbatim and referred back to for absolutely accuracy.

Again, the Dominicans have a long history of hate of the Haitians and those that have dark skin and African features.  They come up with so many angles and excuses to deny their ancestry.  They also claim that the poor Haitians are such a drain on their resources (jobs) as yet another excuse; yet they cannot deny that the Haitians work in slave conditions for what amounts to slave wages.  However, now the Dominicans have a $10 Billion dollar excuse and the world is watching to see what happens next.  That's right, the entire planet donated to Haiti!

"In a world filled with darkness, we are all the same. Don't let your eyes deceive you."

Tightnight this is what makes yourself and several others showing a racist agenda. Too bad you are too damn stupid to see it.

Let me point this out to in as simple a way as possible so MAYBE some people will understand.

You see a white person and consider them the enemy.

How about you see a person and no matter what their race, color, religion, or nationality you speak to them as you would anyone else? If they say or do something out of line add them to the not friend list. If they act like a nice person maybe they still can be your friend even though they are white? LOL.

Try having a little more respect and setting a good example instead of acting like an ignorant child and maybe you'll find more success in life.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 20, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
There is a difference betwenn looking and seeing, That is why two people can look at the same thing and see something totally different. The white supremist will always see the world through racist blue eyes and their intellect is functional on every subject except for race. Banginhoes and PMIdump, we read the same messages on this thread but see (understand) things differently. Question .... where did anyone say anything about "ALL WHITE PEOPLE" or that when they see a white person they "SEE A ENEMY" ?  State person and date of thread........ The problem with the white supremist is they hate being shown they racist that they are by people of African decent. They love, respect and honor indivuals (George Washington, Thomas Jefferson & Rafael Trujillo etc ) whose histories would shame a nation of savages in regards to oppressing Africans. Banginhoes, your lust for Black flesh doesnt prove anything. For the last 400 years white men, including those presidents mentioned above, have raped and fathered children by Black women eventhough they had nothing but hatered and contempt for African people. At the end of the day, and at the core of this new policy in the Domincan Republic is hatered for the African, and in 2015 we aint havin it no more. 


Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 20, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
@born basically to sum things up
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 20, 2015, 09:54:03 PM
LOL LOL LOL No doubt Air-puerto !!!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: boogyfan on June 21, 2015, 06:23:06 AM
Really? I was hoping to read a threat that provided some input into what is happening at ground zero... updates, reports, etc... Guess I'll just have to make another trip back down to find out what's going on. ... ;-)
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: sweeper on June 21, 2015, 08:23:51 AM
the only way to fight the white man and his racism "? the hypocricy .  a racist that's against racism.
As a white man who was married to a woman of color for 26 years , until cancer took her from me , i don't know whether to be offended or amused at that statement. down with racism lets fight the white man?
I know from personal experience that you don't have to be white to be a racist .
The people that are doing this to the Haitians are most likely not "white" . Most Dominicans have some African or native (Taino) ancestry.
I think that many Dominicans deny their African ancestry just as many do in Brazil.
One thing that i noticed while i was down in Sosua on my first trip in May is that i felt a brotherhood among mongers there. I spent hours with a lot of the veterans who educated me on the game and almost all of them were black.  i felt like we had been friends for years instead of having just met that night.
i remember one late afternoon when i was sitting in those white plastic chairs across from Rumbas drinking a Cuba Libre and girl watching  when this black dude i never saw before in my life sat down 2 chairs from me . after a few minutes i looked over and asked where he was from and he just got up and sat next to me and we talked for about 2 hours like we  were long lost brothers and one message that wanted me to get was that i had to get with some of these Haitian chicas
I' not feeling that in this thread.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Creative on June 21, 2015, 09:16:15 AM
the only way to fight the white man and his racism "? the hypocricy .  a racist that's against racism.
As a white man who was married to a woman of color for 26 years , until cancer took her from me , i don't know whether to be offended or amused at that statement. down with racism lets fight the white man?
I know from personal experience that you don't have to be white to be a racist .
The people that are doing this to the Haitians are most likely not "white" . Most Dominicans have some African or native (Taino) ancestry.
I think that many Dominicans deny their African ancestry just as many do in Brazil.
One thing that i noticed while i was down in Sosua on my first trip in May is that i felt a brotherhood among mongers there. I spent hours with a lot of the veterans who educated me on the game and almost all of them were black.  i felt like we had been friends for years instead of having just met that night.
i remember one late afternoon when i was sitting in those white plastic chairs across from Rumbas drinking a Cuba Libre and girl watching  when this black dude i never saw before in my life sat down 2 chairs from me . after a few minutes i looked over and asked where he was from and he just got up and sat next to me and we talked for about 2 hours like we  were long lost brothers and one message that wanted me to get was that i had to get with some of these Haitian chicas
I' not feeling that in this thread.

You know that in 2015 Scientist has proven without a reasonable doubt that everyone, EVERYONE lineage dates back to Africa.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on June 21, 2015, 10:10:51 AM
Sweeper – People from all over the world go to different monger hotspots.  Thailand, Philippine’s, Germany, and Amsterdam as well as the DR, Colombia and Brazil.  The feeling of the “The Brotherhood” does exist with mongers with boots on the ground for several reasons.  In Sosua that feeling is prevalent because;

1.   Sosua is a very small town.  The majority of the men once they see each other and realize we are all swimming in the same shit & piss, they further realize they cannot criticize each other. They are no better than the next man as we are all doing the exact same thing; buying pussy!

2.   The Gringo vs The Dominican Hustle:  It starts at the airport. There is a clear and present threat of thievery and harm towards all of the mongers by the crooked policia; thieving chicas, hustlers trying to set up guys, shady cab drivers, hotel owners and beach vendors.  The fact that this is occurring in a foreign country causes all tourist mongers to pick sides and feel as if The Dominicans are the “Bad Guys” and we as the Gringos, are the “Good Guys”.  Note: The Gringo has no color, nor any particular race. The Gringo is simply, not a Dominican.


Once that is realized the great friendships truly begin amongst mongers.  You recognize reoccurring faces of all races and they recognize yours.  Dap is given and it is usually followed by a beer and then the stories start being told.  Then as you reflect upon what you have successfully done financially in your life to get to this point and you also see firsthand men of other races that were successful as well------but doing the exact same thing.  All the “isms” that people have against other people are forgotten as they realize we are all the same in………“The Human Race.”
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 21, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
There is a difference betwenn looking and seeing, That is why two people can look at the same thing and see something totally different. The white supremist will always see the world through racist blue eyes and their intellect is functional on every subject except for race. Banginhoes and PMIdump, we read the same messages on this thread but see (understand) things differently. Question .... where did anyone say anything about "ALL WHITE PEOPLE" or that when they see a white person they "SEE A ENEMY" ?  State person and date of thread........ The problem with the white supremist is they hate being shown they racist that they are by people of African decent. They love, respect and honor indivuals (George Washington, Thomas Jefferson & Rafael Trujillo etc ) whose histories would shame a nation of savages in regards to oppressing Africans. Banginhoes, your lust for Black flesh doesnt prove anything. For the last 400 years white men, including those presidents mentioned above, have raped and fathered children by Black women eventhough they had nothing but hatered and contempt for African people. At the end of the day, and at the core of this new policy in the Domincan Republic is hatered for the African, and in 2015 we aint havin it no more.

"1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a white guy. "

Yea that looks innocent now doesn't it?

Spin things however you like but facts are still facts.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 21, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
@sweeper that's what I be feeling not from every body but most then I come back to NY and everybody feels is so cold and distant
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Nota newbie on June 21, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
There is a difference betwenn looking and seeing, That is why two people can look at the same thing and see something totally different. The white supremist will always see the world through racist blue eyes and their intellect is functional on every subject except for race. Banginhoes and PMIdump, we read the same messages on this thread but see (understand) things differently. Question .... where did anyone say anything about "ALL WHITE PEOPLE" or that when they see a white person they "SEE A ENEMY" ?  State person and date of thread........ The problem with the white supremist is they hate being shown they racist that they are by people of African decent. They love, respect and honor indivuals (George Washington, Thomas Jefferson & Rafael Trujillo etc ) whose histories would shame a nation of savages in regards to oppressing Africans. Banginhoes, your lust for Black flesh doesnt prove anything. For the last 400 years white men, including those presidents mentioned above, have raped and fathered children by Black women eventhough they had nothing but hatered and contempt for African people. At the end of the day, and at the core of this new policy in the Domincan Republic is hatered for the African, and in 2015 we aint havin it no more.

"1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a white guy. "

Yea that looks innocent now doesn't it?

Spin things however you like but facts are still facts.

Geeze man, no one is saying what you are saying. Any one with intellect knows that you deal with people based on the content of their xter regardless of race, and when you are a traveller, it's best to be open minded in dealing and chopping it up with people until they prove u wrong.

        Sosua for mongering is an equalizer. What I see here is people speaking up against an injustice system...not that a particular white or blue guy is evil...this isn't too difficult to comprehend!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 22, 2015, 12:02:39 PM
Hatred is something I could never wrap my mind around. The fact that people so often must qualify and identify every person by race is sickening. Your skin color or your race doesn't mean shit to me. It tells me ZERO about you as a person, so I truly couldn't care less about anyone's race. I have love for people, ALL PEOPLE, because who you are is all that matters to me. What skin your maker wrapped you in is completely irrelevant to me. Unfortunately, we'll never see a world that embraces this perspective and it's sad.
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After being out of town in ATL for a few days, I will quote again what my brother 007 stated above.  I do this because a lot of nonsense has been discussed on this thread.  I've met a few guys from this board and all of them are great guys.  I look forward to seeing them again either in the USA or DR.  The color of their skin has no relevance to me.

But yes...I DO have problems with many people of different races.  I HATE the Skinhead, KKK, Nazi...whatever you want to call him guy that killed 9 innocent people in Charleston, SC.  I HATE the radical Muslims that killed innocent lives on 9/11/2001.  I HATE the Nazis that murdered over 7,000,000 innocent Jews and millions of others.... 

I could go on and on, but I hope everyone sees my point.  Every race and religion in the world has evil people associated with them.  Hate the haters or in this case murderers, don't hate the race.

The DR and many countries like the USA have issues with illegal aliens.  These people are in another country illegally!!!  The DR has the right to send these illegal people back to their homeland.  It kills me that there are innocent people that this will also hurt, such as children that were born while their parents were living illegally in another country.  But in most cases children pay for the sins of their parents and it is happening here. 

I don't think that there is anything racist with the DR sending illegals back to their home country.  Every country in the modern world has this right.  Keep in mind that if you mistakenly hike into some Muslim nations, you might get beheaded for stepping foot in their country.  I do not see any uproar from this and this is much worse than simply sending people back to their country of citizenship. 

I have been to the DR many times and everyone I have met are extremely nice people...but I can guarantee that racism exists in the DR just like it does in every corner of the world.  But I for one do not have the authority nor the power to condemn a country for sending illegal people back to their homeland.  Every country in the world has this right and it has nothing to do with race.

I will acknowledge though that I'm sure there are racist DR citizens and government officials that are extremely happy that this is happening.  It will be very interesting to see how this affects the DR economically.  The people that will get hurt the hardest are the regular Dominican people  For example my GF's Mom is building a house in Pueblo Bavaro and the workers are illegal Haitians.  Keep in mind though that DR's number one industry isn't sugar cane nor is it the exportation of alcohol.  By far and away, the DR's biggest industry is TOURISM!!! 

The wealthiest families that live in the DR are NOT true Dominicans...they are foreigners and immigrants!!!  With the majority of the super rich coming from Spain.  Take a look at the history of the largest Dominican corporations...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_the_Dominican_Republic

I can guarantee you that the majority of these companies will not be affected that much by illegal Haitians returning to Haiti.  The poorer Dominicans that use cheap Haitian workforce, will be affected.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: air_puerto_prince on June 22, 2015, 12:20:14 PM
What's going on out in sosua now? Are there still Haitians out there or are they being grab up by the police
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 22, 2015, 12:22:25 PM
What's going on out in sosua now? Are there still Haitians out there or are they being grab up by the police

Great question...I'll be there in a month and I was planning on picking up one of the Haitian chicas at the Haitian club that all the Germans hang out at!!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: maxvonrain on June 22, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
bachatero..good points above.  I didn't know about the influence of Spain in the DR economy.  Thanks for the education.

pmi..dude, I'm not here to defend anybody else but looking at your reactions to various posts, I am not sure that anybody posted what you said they did. Maybe I missed it..if so, that's my bad but I think you over-reacted.  At best.

Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PMIdump on June 22, 2015, 04:55:38 PM
bachatero..good points above.  I didn't know about the influence of Spain in the DR economy.  Thanks for the education.

pmi..dude, I'm not here to defend anybody else but looking at your reactions to various posts, I am not sure that anybody posted what you said they did. Maybe I missed it..if so, that's my bad but I think you over-reacted.  At best.

I guess you can't read then. I quoted it twice. Possibly you don't consider it in the same context.

hrmm but if we change 1 word I bet plenty of people would have a big problem with it.

"1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a (substitute your race here) guy. "

Try it and see.

If you still don't get it you have bigger problems.LOL.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: maxvonrain on June 23, 2015, 11:35:09 AM
bachatero..good points above.  I didn't know about the influence of Spain in the DR economy.  Thanks for the education.

pmi..dude, I'm not here to defend anybody else but looking at your reactions to various posts, I am not sure that anybody posted what you said they did. Maybe I missed it..if so, that's my bad but I think you over-reacted.  At best.

I guess you can't read then. I quoted it twice. Possibly you don't consider it in the same context.

hrmm but if we change 1 word I bet plenty of people would have a big problem with it.

"1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a (substitute your race here) guy. "

Try it and see.

If you still don't get it you have bigger problems.LOL.
How 'bout let's try posting the complete quote:

"1. And the end result of you voicing your true agenda, the brothers that have read all of your latest stuff; will come to Sosua & will be on guard not to engage in any social pleasantries, hanging out & story telling with-----a white guy.  Was that your true intent all along?"

See..I saw a question posed to you.  But I will grant that different people can see that original statement different ways.  You took it one way.  Others had a different perspective.  I don't know what the original poster meant by saying/asking it.  Motives are not my concern.  I'm responding to actions that have taken place.  Like selective editing and posting sweeping generalizations. 

As to my problems, I have plenty.  I'm human. Tell you one thing though, I wouldn't trade them for yours.  Or for anybody's. 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: dakiddanthony on June 24, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
I read about this yesterday. There's also a petition going around to boycott Dominican republic

This is a great idea and will also solve the boycott Clasicos issue.  Ya'll stay home with Obama and deal with the illegal Mexican problem in the USA.  Hold hands, sing We Shall Overcome and have a good oldschool boycott of the DR; I'm sure your boycott will solve the hate most Dominicans have for their neighbors.


lmao. word!!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 24, 2015, 03:19:18 PM
dakiddanthony - The objective is not to "solve a problem", but one should only spend their money in a place where they are respected. And to disrespect a African anywhere (Hatians included), is to disrespect all Africans everywhere ..... Also not only does the USA have many illegal Mexicans, but we have many illegal Dominicans here as well. If the Dominican Republic continues its Hatian policy, I would quadruple all American efforts to return every Domincan (including children) that is/has been here illegally, going back 75 years. Because what is good for the goose ... is always good for the gander. 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: nickmirr on June 24, 2015, 03:26:40 PM
dakiddanthony - The objective is not to "solve a problem", but one should only spend their money in a place where they are respected. And to disrespect a African anywhere (Hatians included), is to disrespect all Africans everywhere ..... Also not only does the USA have many illegal Mexicans, but we have many illegal Dominicans here as well. If the Dominican Republic continues its Hatian policy, I would quadruple all American efforts to return every Domincan (including children) that is/has been here illegally, going back 75 years. Because what is good for the goose ... is always good for the gander.

Perfectly stated G.O.D, turnabout is fair play..
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: seanSLO on June 25, 2015, 06:18:03 PM
Have to remember in America children born in country are citizens and very hard to deport parents. I live in California were we have more illegals than anywhere
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 26, 2015, 09:43:52 AM
I just talked to my GF in Santo Domingo and she has heard that the law has changed but nothing has happened.  Thus far there are no beatings, killings, and deportation of law abiding Haitians.  The media has blown this way out of proportion.  The government is deporting Haitians that are causing problems that have been arrested.  I am white and a citizen of the USA, and if I stay too long and break the law, then I will get deported as well.  Every country in the world deports illegals that break the law. 

So far I do not see this as hatred to any race, but of course I do not have a crystal ball to see the future.  All I can report is what is being told to me by credible people currently in the DR.  007 Has reported the same in Bavaro/Punta Cana.  I'm sure there are guys on this board in Sosua and my guess is that their reports will be similar. 

Hopefully the crazy media is wrong again and law abiding Haitians can continue to work and live in the DR without problems.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on June 26, 2015, 03:05:42 PM
Bochatero - Not to cast shade on your Dominican girlfriend, but you have citizens of all countries (including Americans - remember Vietnam and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq) who are mis-informed about the actions of their government. The media has only commented on what the Dominican governemnt has stated it intends to do; and your girlfriends claims of only "Hatian criminals" being deported .... sound like a red herring to me and an attempt to destroy any sympathy for those being deported.

Listen. I dont have a problem when countries repatriate those who entered its terrortories illegally, because every country has a right to protect their boarders, but what has most people concerned is that the Dominican Republic  in a 2013 court decision, ruled to  strip children of Haitian migrants of their Domincan citizenship retroactively to 1930, leaving tens of thousands of Dominican-born people of Haitian descent stateless. This is unfair and only happening to the Hatian population in the Dominican Republic   

Under the racist Trujillos dictatorship, pro Hispanic and anti Hatian became the official ideology of the Dominican Republic. White physical appearence became the romantic symbol of an authentic Dominican identity and Dominicans of African Decent (Hatians) were considered the antithisis to that. If Dominicans are supposed to be white, Domincans of African decent (Hatians) were Black,  If Dominicans spoke Spanish, Dominicans of Hatian decent spoke Creole,if Domincans were Catholic, Domincans of Hatian decent worshopped voodoo or Santa Maria. Domincans of Hatian decent were demonized and considered less than human as Trujillo attempted to rid the Domincan Republic of their African blood. Under his regime Hatians and darked skinned Dominican men, women, and CHILDREN were slaughtered towards that effort. - So understand if we "over react" to this racist stated policy of the Dominican Republic, its because we seen this movie before and we didnt like it than .... and dont like it now...........   
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: 007 on June 26, 2015, 03:50:44 PM
I just talked to my GF in Santo Domingo and she has heard that the law has changed but nothing has happened.  Thus far there are no beatings, killings, and deportation of law abiding Haitians.  The media has blown this way out of proportion.  The government is deporting Haitians that are causing problems that have been arrested.

Fellas...I can't speak for an entire country, but what I have seen firsthand and what conversations I've had with Dominican and Haitian friends alike. There has not been any targeting of Haitians as a whole. I live amongst them daily and I've not seen a single one being bothered or even questioned, much less arrested for deportation. There are thousands of Haitians living and working around here everyday. They do no fall into the category of those who are here illegally, so there's no impact on them. Bachatero specifically said "law abiding Haitians" and this is what I'm witnessing. None of them are being bothered. Every so often the police set up a roadblock and stop motos for documentation. The 1 or 2 who can't produce property documentation may get their moto tossed in the back of the truck and they get taken in, but that's been going on for as many years as I've been coming here. That's still all I've seen happening around here.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Universal on June 27, 2015, 10:13:29 AM
This story deals with the racist attitudes directed specifically at Haitians by Dominicans.  The US has over 400 yrs (and counting) of oppression directed at African Americans that is well documented and every once in a while makes national news.  Oh by the way, US Citizens are now in fact being called to testify at the UN about their experiences with the abuses they have endured.

@PMI Dump

Pointing out the facts that the US---- of all countries has no leg to stand on whatsoever in regards to criticizing another country for "Human Rights Abuses" is not a racist agenda; just the facts.  I presented the facts much like any open-minded person with an education beyond the "Public" realm. Your ignorant, accusatory comments not only identify yourself as a person that has blinders on to not care about the truth.  Rather you enjoy your life basking in the fruits and bounties that were provided from systemic, institutionalized "isms" that favor whites and would prefer that non-whites just be quite and remain in our "designated places" which I am sure your belief is to be servants to you.

No I will not. 

However the only agenda I have is to tell you one thing;...................Mother f--k You and the Ignorant Bitch that Gave Birth to You!

The US runs the UN..  Also, the Haitians r stupid for wanting to stay and put up with that racism.  I go to Haiti now and before I was going to DR for 9 yrs. There are 8 million peace loving honest Haitians there doing just fine with what they have in Haiti and they are not charging 1st world money for 3rd world pussy like in Sosua.  The dishonest lying pussy selling Haitians end up in DR, they behave like Dominicans when they get there or already like them. The racism in DR is worst than in the US and you dum azz n----s still go and give ur money to that shit hole third world country, over paying those dum lying trick bitches.  No matter how militant, educated or Black minded you think you are, you are a modern day slave that think you are free.  However, all in all you are a primitive thinking uneducated subspecies that can walk and talk English.  The whites who go and get hooked on Dominican and Haitian pussy in the DR are just a step above you because they are only respected for their color and money and not necessarily in that order.  So all you Einsteins need to just do life a favor and let natural selection take its course because u idiots that think with ur dick have no brains anyway.. 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: biggs68 on June 29, 2015, 02:24:39 PM
https://youtu.be/7Cg4ULem6oE  D.R Racist  ?????
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: maxvonrain on June 29, 2015, 03:31:34 PM
https://youtu.be/7Cg4ULem6oE  D.R Racist  ?????
Very good advocate for his side of the debate.  It would be nice to hear an equally measured argument in response to him.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 29, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
@Biggs  He has a lot of great points.  Thank you for the post!!!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: biggs68 on June 29, 2015, 05:20:14 PM
@Biggs  He has a lot of great points.  Thank you for the post!!!
Cool   ! but in spite of his good points I still think they have a huge problem with  hatian people  and anyone else of african ancestry !
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on June 29, 2015, 05:28:53 PM
@Biggs  He has a lot of great points.  Thank you for the post!!!
Cool   ! but in spite of his good points I still think they have a huge problem with  hatian people  and anyone else of african ancestry !

Agreed, I don't think we can paint the entire country as racist though.  I do agree that there are racists in the DR just like there are racists everywhere.  I do think that the USA has moved forward drastically from what it was 60 years ago.  Hopefully in another 60 years the entire world will have changed in the right direction and that racism from any and all ethnic groups will be a small minority.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: JayMillz on July 09, 2015, 09:07:58 AM
Short explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKqL8BZqo8Q
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on July 09, 2015, 04:36:19 PM
If you dont understand white supremacy .... what it is ..... and how it operates in todays world .... everything you think you understand will only confuse you ........ The greatest form of injustice / wickedness on the entire planet is white supremacy .......... And that includes the Dominican Republic where a white supremist mentality reigns supreme within the concious & subconcious minds of most Dominicans .... The White supremist = devils incarnate   .............. Vive La Hattie
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: EducatedBrother on July 10, 2015, 06:08:47 AM
This idiot bornjust777 keep talkin bout some white supremacy bullshit.  He must be one a those brothas who thinks that Barry Hussein Obama gonna save his stupid ass.  Why cant he jus find a nice dominican girl and shut the hell up.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on July 10, 2015, 10:00:55 AM
If you dont understand white supremacy .... what it is ..... and how it operates in todays world .... everything you think you understand will only confuse you ........ The greatest form of injustice / wickedness on the entire planet is white supremacy .......... And that includes the Dominican Republic where a white supremist mentality reigns supreme within the concious & subconcious minds of most Dominicans .... The White supremist = devils incarnate   .............. Vive La Hattie

@Born  Yes...white supremacy is evil just like all racism is.  But it doesn't rule the entire planet like you think.  Let me know where the hot spots in Haiti are.  I get close by every so often in a town called Las Matas de Farfan. 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on July 10, 2015, 05:30:44 PM
Bachatero yes indeed racism is evil, but I submit that the only functional or exisiting form of racism in Amerikkka and Haiti is white supremacy. Racism being defined as structual or all exisitng human reationships (economics, education, entertainment, politics, labor, law, sex, and war) being based on the insubordination of one ethnic group over another. There is a difference betwenn being prejudice or pre-judging someone (which we all are guilty of) and being a racist which only those in charge can do. Whites who are white supremist control the economy, educational systems, entertainment systems the military etc etc and are the only ones capable of being racist. 

And as it goes for responding to "so-called" EDUCATED "so called" BROTHER (which I know he is neither because I can smell a skunk from a mile away) I dont respond to fools because my Africans ancestors taught ... never answer a fool according to his folly .......
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: EducatedBrother on July 10, 2015, 07:36:29 PM
Why da hell is this guy talkin like hes African.  Hes not African in the least bit.  Da guy is american and has identity problems.  If his stupid ass went to Africa he would stop sayin hes african cause he would see how shitty they have it over there.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: sansescale on July 11, 2015, 09:51:33 AM
Who could imagine that someone with a name like educatedbrother could write so many ignorants post... SMH
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on July 13, 2015, 10:37:38 AM
Bachatero yes indeed racism is evil, but I submit that the only functional or exisiting form of racism in Amerikkka and Haiti is white supremacy. Racism being defined as structual or all exisitng human reationships (economics, education, entertainment, politics, labor, law, sex, and war) being based on the insubordination of one ethnic group over another. There is a difference betwenn being prejudice or pre-judging someone (which we all are guilty of) and being a racist which only those in charge can do. Whites who are white supremist control the economy, educational systems, entertainment systems the military etc etc and are the only ones capable of being racist. 

And as it goes for responding to "so-called" EDUCATED "so called" BROTHER (which I know he is neither because I can smell a skunk from a mile away) I dont respond to fools because my Africans ancestors taught ... never answer a fool according to his folly .......

@Bornjust  Where are you from?  Do you know that here in the USA, Obama has been elected as a 2 term president?  He has implemented a lot of change these past years and wants to make more change.  I don't watch the new a lot, but I don't think he has been attacked by the KKK yet here in the USA. 

So just out of curiosity, do you think Obama is part of the racist AmeriKKKa that you are talking about?  I know that Obama is half white and half African, but I don't see him as being part of the racism that you are talking about.  Because I do not watch a lot of news, please inform me where Obama has implemented racism here in the USA.  After all, he is the president and he is the most powerful person in this country that you say is practicing white supremacy.  Also please give us examples as to how Haiti is practicing white supremacy.  There are white people in Haiti, but I believe the majority of the Haitian people are of darker skin. 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: parliament on July 14, 2015, 01:34:31 AM
Bachatero yes indeed racism is evil, but I submit that the only functional or exisiting form of racism in Amerikkka and Haiti is white supremacy. Racism being defined as structual or all exisitng human reationships (economics, education, entertainment, politics, labor, law, sex, and war) being based on the insubordination of one ethnic group over another. There is a difference betwenn being prejudice or pre-judging someone (which we all are guilty of) and being a racist which only those in charge can do. Whites who are white supremist control the economy, educational systems, entertainment systems the military etc etc and are the only ones capable of being racist. 

And as it goes for responding to "so-called" EDUCATED "so called" BROTHER (which I know he is neither because I can smell a skunk from a mile away) I dont respond to fools because my Africans ancestors taught ... never answer a fool according to his folly .......

Daaaaaim, this was literally a verbal beatdown.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bornjust777 on July 14, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Bochatero
@Bornjust  Where im from is insignificant and of course I know that Obama is a two term Presidnet. I also know that the "so called" changes Obama has made will not effect the POWER dynamics of international white supremacy. The white supremist could care less about democracy, capitilism, christianity, liberty or even having Obama as Presidnet. The only thing they support is whites being supreme over every other race and they will kill to maintain global dominance. If capitilism empowers them, they support it. If christianity empowers them, they support it, if Obama being president empowers them, they support him, but the second anything or anyone challenges their superiority, they abandon/kill it. Example, Palestinians are the majority population in Isreal (as Africans were in  Aparthied South Africa) however whites support white minority rule not deomcracy in both countries. Christianity and Judiasm demand thy shall not steal, and thy shall not kill (murder). But the white supremist who says they are Jews and Christians have stolen and murdered non white peoples and stolen their national resources for centuries. They only believe in divine principle when they can minipulate them to maintain their dominance. But if these principles get in the way of their dominance, they abandon them.     

And when you say Obama is the most Powerful man in the country, I hope you stated that as a joke because everyone knows the position of president in any country is just a figurehead position to those who really hold the power.  Finally of course the majority population in Haiti are African, but who CONTROLS the banks, economy, military, hospitals, schools ??? The same group of international white supremist who control those institutions here in amerikkka.

Question ???? why is Africa the richest continant on the planet BAR NONE providing practically 60% of the earth with natural resources but has the poorest people/governments. And how is it that Europe is the poorest continant in reguards to natural resources but has the richest people?????     

 
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: bachatero on July 14, 2015, 01:06:17 PM
@bornjust  OK thanks for the clarification!  There are definitely people who believe in white supremacy, but there is no organization nor is there any real evidence for your claim that it even exists as an organized group.  Sure you have the KKK, skin heads, nazi's, and I'm sure there are many other hate groups out there, but they are a minority and they do not run the country, banking system, or financial system like you state.  If the group does exist please clarify with real data and facts, because they need to be called out and I'm more than happy to stand on your side to oppose them.

It's a saying that the US President is the most powerful person in the world and in some ways it is correct, but not many countries nor people outside the USA have much admiration for the US President any more.  Obama has his own agenda and the power to push it forward.  He has done this on many occasions just like every president in the USA and that gives him more power than any other person in the USA because he can change policy and that my friend is power.

The reason African countries are so poor is similar to why Haiti is so poor.  Most African countries are very corrupt and run with no regards to their citizens.  You have a lot of companies outside of Africa that go into the land to get at those natural resources that you are talking about in order to fill their pockets with profits.  The stupid leaders are getting paid to allow the outside companies to rape and pillage those natural resources and therefore they are screwing the citizens.  This has nothing to do with white supremacy, but everything to do with the worst disease in the world....greed.

My guess is that we probably agree on many subjects, but disagree on the motives as to who is to blame and why.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Blacknight69 on July 16, 2015, 07:25:29 PM
UPDATE

http://haitiantimes.com/deportations...-halted-12003/

Last week the Dominican government announced it is temporarily halting the planned deportations of thousands of Domincio-Haitians. On Friday the Organization of American States (OAS) travelled to the island where they assessed the current Dominican Republic situation, and met with Haitian and Dominican government leaders on the controversial deportation plan.

“We welcome the news of the Dominican Republic’s temporary halt,” the Unitarian Universalist Service Committee (UUSC), a human rights agency, said in a statement.
“We are at least encouraged that the mission is at the invitation of leaders of both Haiti and the Dominican Republic,” said UUSC President and CEO Rev. William Schulz. “The situation represents both a human and civil rights crisis that has targeted people of all ages, including unaccompanied children and the elderly.
“Dominicans of Haitian descent — many of whom only speak Spanish — have fallen under the net of being stateless, homeless and subject to being tossed over the border into Haiti with no support on either side of the line,” said Schulz. “We trust that the OAS mission will help both countries reach a humane solution.”
The looming crisis is the result of a 2013 ruling by the Dominican Republic’s highest court that retroactively revoked the citizenship of children of Haitian migrants born after 1929 — which perforce applies onward to those migrants’ children, grandchildren and even great-grandchildren. There are as many as 200,000 children of Haitian descent in the Dominican Republic who now are at risk of deportation to Haiti, many of whom may be unaccompanied.
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: tugboaboat5393 on July 07, 2020, 10:24:11 AM
Haitian Chicas. Are just as good sme will love you to death Haha!
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: PapiViejo-Dark Lord on July 07, 2020, 11:40:24 AM
I got love for them Haitian chicas because they know what you want and give it to you. The only problem I have is moving on and them not wanting to let go.  How do I say "It's just your turn" in Creole?
Title: Re: critical for haitians in DR
Post by: Jazzy2019 on July 07, 2020, 12:09:00 PM
I got love for them Haitian chicas because they know what you want and give it to you. The only problem I have is moving on and them not wanting to let go.  How do I say "It's just your turn" in Creole?

That’s been my experience. Even though I tend to do 1 haitiana for every 20 dominicanas I’ve had far more Haitian stalkers than I’ve had Dominican.
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